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B_F 54
June 19th, 2012
7:10 pm
blue is off tonight bad call freaked bourn out
richbrave
June 19th, 2012
7:10 pm
If
richbrave
June 19th, 2012
7:10 pm
only
richbrave
June 19th, 2012
7:10 pm
T-REX
richbrave
June 19th, 2012
7:11 pm
really
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:11 pm
I thought the odds were better with Drew, but both were pretty long alright
richbrave
June 19th, 2012
7:11 pm
had
richbrave
June 19th, 2012
7:12 pm
been.
Waffle House or Bust
June 19th, 2012
7:12 pm
People stop saying we need this player or need to make this trade. Until Fredi is gone and Frank Wren goes with him, it will continue to be the same. Braves wanted a Bobby Cox type manager and they got it. Problem is Bobby Ball does not work anymore (notice the past ten years in Atlanta?).
Efrim
June 19th, 2012
7:12 pm
Damn, Kuroda looks good.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
7:12 pm
No the Tex deal was an overpay and for a team that didn’t need another bat but needed 2 starters at a minimum, it was JS trying to secure his legacy ith another division , Drew was an actual need filled, I think we got draft picks for Drew too when he left.
btw, where is Drew now? Old and out of baseball
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:12 pm
Fly ball Tommy is taking his life in his hands in this park, gotta get groundball Tommy to show up
Tomahawk Mafia
June 19th, 2012
7:13 pm
The Braves were retired on 10 pitches. Unfortunately we have become accustomed to that type of futility from the lineup.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:13 pm
no draft picks for Drew, I’m fairly sure
B_F 54
June 19th, 2012
7:14 pm
Drew got treated like a dog in Boston but he was a good ballplayer
Efrim
June 19th, 2012
7:14 pm
“What it does, if JJ comes out and pitches well, the snipers all of a sudden they don’t raise their prices if we decide we want [to trade for a pitcher],” Gonzalez said. “They won’t say, you need him really bad, so instead of this [asking price] it’s these two other guys.”
Interesting to see Fredi be that specific.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:15 pm
hmmm. why was I thinking Hanson was pitching?
I blame it all on old age….
Jeff R
June 19th, 2012
7:15 pm
jim is spot on in his 7:09 pm post. Kids’ baseball in a lot of places these days has been professionalized, with parents pressing kids to perform well enough to secure scholarships.
An acquaintance of mine’s kid is young (14) and a very talented player. Actually had a Mets’ scout out to evaluate him. After evaluating the kid, the scout said he’d be back in a few years, and in the meantime, don’t push the kid too hard and make sure he was having fun playing.
Baseball shouldn’t be a business for kids.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
7:16 pm
nolie, you are rght they didn’t offer arb, JS became a terrible GM over his last couple of years, that was a dumb move to not offer arby
then again, that was under time warner and they cut payroll drastically
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
7:17 pm
Braves traded Wainwright, Jason Marquis, and Ray “Burger” King, and got JD Drew and Eli Marrero – a very forgettable player for sure. No draft picks at all.
Here is the link to the story.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1685436
ChattTownBrian
June 19th, 2012
7:17 pm
Can’t get him out.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 19th, 2012
7:18 pm
cabravesfan you know what I mean!
Of course I do—what did you think I thought you meant?…
Our guys just seem to really like the Yankees…
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:18 pm
Eli had a very good year for the Braves though, instrumental in getting to the post season
NickB
June 19th, 2012
7:18 pm
I would rather we just hit Jeter on one pitch, never have liked him, one of the most overrated players of all time
ChattTownBrian
June 19th, 2012
7:18 pm
Here we go. That damn sonof bitch jeter
jim
June 19th, 2012
7:18 pm
Braves retired on 10 pitches — jeter works an 11 pitch walk.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 19th, 2012
7:19 pm
The Braves collectively saw 10 pitches in the first inning while Jeter sees 10 by himself. That is frustrating.
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
7:19 pm
Getting old and my memory fails me I guess, because I don’t recall Marrero doing much of anything. But I’ll take your word for it.
TBbravesfan
June 19th, 2012
7:20 pm
how many will they score this inning?
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:20 pm
.320 .374 .520 .894 Marrero
Efrim
June 19th, 2012
7:21 pm
I remember Eli having a good year too.
ChattTownBrian
June 19th, 2012
7:21 pm
NickB, DJ is cocky for sure. I don’t completely buy the “nice guy” thing we see on tv. There’s some underlining stinky shi* there I bet.
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
7:21 pm
Wow! That was a good year! Did he do anything after that?
Jeff R
June 19th, 2012
7:22 pm
Telling you, toward the end, Schuerholz was all about keeping The Run going. Long term planning went out the window.
Frank Wren – to his credit – took over and began looking longer range again. Wren reemphasized developing pitching (which has begun to pay off).
As we all can see, it takes time to restock a system. But the results have positive payoff ongoing.
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
7:22 pm
For all of the Jeter haters, I take your hate for Jeter and multiply it by ten for A-Roid.
ChattTownBrian
June 19th, 2012
7:22 pm
God dang ARoid and Tex have big butts. Worse is when Tex wiggles all the time.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:22 pm
nope, only real good year he ever had
tired of the Atl
June 19th, 2012
7:23 pm
I think all Fredo proves is that at the professional level, managing and coaches may not do much to help a team, but the wrong guys sure can bring an otherwise solid team down with boneheaded decisions and lack of leadership qualities. Does anyone really think Joe Torre got that much better as a manager from his time with the Cardinals (where he sucked), to the Yankees? All he had to do was not screw it up. Bobby Cox, same thing, you had four future HoF in the team, try not to screw it up. But Fredi, and seemingly every other pro coach in this town of the last decade or so, screws it up.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:24 pm
I would kill Mitchell to get Cano……
ChattTownBrian
June 19th, 2012
7:24 pm
I kinda like Cano though. He seems pretty level headed and he’s real good.
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
7:24 pm
@Jeff R: good points about comparing JS at the end and FW at the beginning. Just hope Wren doesn’t fall prey to the same temptations that swayed Schuerholtz
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:24 pm
WTG Timmy
Couch Tater
June 19th, 2012
7:24 pm
Hillbilly –
You were “on” today. Funny stuff.
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
7:28 pm
Agree on Cano – he is the real gem of that lineup. Him and Gardner would be my two picks. Most of the other guys, as good as they are, are getting older and slower and don’t have too many years left.
TNScott
June 19th, 2012
7:29 pm
First pitch Freddie
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:29 pm
Freddie swings at the first pitch as usual
ncbravesfan90
June 19th, 2012
7:29 pm
JJ pitched one inning in Gwinnett tonight. 1 IP 0 hits 0 runs 2 walks 2 k’s
tired of the Atl
June 19th, 2012
7:30 pm
I sense another CG by the opposing pitcher at this rate.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 19th, 2012
7:30 pm
Freddie Freeman’s approach is awful.
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:30 pm
Unbelievably short inning
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:30 pm
Gardner been hurt?
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:31 pm
Chipper is absolutely DONE
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:31 pm
Did Parrish sneak in the back door again?
valdosta native
June 19th, 2012
7:31 pm
I’ll put in my two cents here, and leave it be for the rest of the year. The Braves don’t need to panic for another bat OR another arm. What they SHOULD do is keep rolling Minor and Delgado out there along with either Jurrgens, Tehran, or Medlen. They could even give Hudson or Hanson a break (since both coming off injuries from last year) every fifth day by rolling a 1-2 combination of those guys out there. If anything, Wren should trade for some bullpen help. As far as the offense goes, it seems like calling up AA guys (ie Simmons) seems to be working out. Give Gatis a chance or someone else with the bat. Our future is our rotation and farm system minus Chipper/Lowe/ possibly Hudson off the books next year to get a quality bomber at 3rd or left field. Sorry Chipper…sorry we couldn’t give you that swan song you wanted, but we can’t unload any talent to plug in gaps for just the remainder of this year. Not worth it!!!!!
Disgusted
June 19th, 2012
7:31 pm
This is a completely different Chipper siince he has been back. He is more like Chumpper.
4 for 26 since he has been back — That deserves to be Booed.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 19th, 2012
7:31 pm
Kuroda threw 8 pitches that inning. This team needs to alter there approach back to the way it was when they were extremely patient and working walks earlier in the season. They look so awful and uninspiring at the plate right now.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:31 pm
nah Chipper will bounce back
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:33 pm
When did Freddie decide that one pitch is all he gets?????????
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:34 pm
whats the feeling about the Yanks unis with no names?
kevkat
June 19th, 2012
7:34 pm
Wow…swinging like they got a plane to catch..already
ncbravesfan90
June 19th, 2012
7:35 pm
Dang this ump is all over the place early in the game.
Bravofan
June 19th, 2012
7:35 pm
Phillies rookie infielder Freddy Galvis has been banned for 50 games for testing positive for a banned substance.
http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=8074062
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:35 pm
Ump having a bad night behind the plate
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:36 pm
we might could lose this
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:36 pm
They just can’t miss that easy Hudson offering
kevkat
June 19th, 2012
7:36 pm
That hit was a result of the missed call on an earlier pitch..which looked like a strike.
MFin04
June 19th, 2012
7:36 pm
Of course Raul who was 0 for the world gets a double off of Huddy.
David O'Brien
June 19th, 2012
7:37 pm
Teixiera and Ibanez with consecutive hits off Hudson to start Yankees 2nd. Ibanez snaps an 0-for-15 with double.
Swisher doubles over head of Bourn, 2-0 lead
Disgusted
June 19th, 2012
7:37 pm
I don’t care what anyone wants to make of WAR, anyone who has been following and watching the game should come to the conclusion that Giancarlo Stanton has been far better than Heyward this year by far.
Don’t even want to get in a long winded debate on it.
As for traditional stats, OBP should have been more closely paid attention to years ago.
OPS and RC I have no problem with, but VORP and WAR are theoretical & ficticious.
2011 again?
June 19th, 2012
7:37 pm
Plain and simple this team just sucks!!! Next year no Freddie and no Chipper!! WOOOO HOOOO
Efrim
June 19th, 2012
7:38 pm
Patient group, them Damn Yankees.
kevkat
June 19th, 2012
7:38 pm
yea, this ump sucks..call that pitch a strike he called a ball earlier..gonna be a long night
Tomahawk Mafia
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
This will likely be the game here when the Yankees score.
Bravofan
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
Woow
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
Yankees are patient at the plate
ncbravesfan90
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
To those who say we don’t need to trade for a frontline starting pitcher:
Who do we hand the ball to in a must win game?????
MFin04
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
Ballgame. Wow. Bourn just missed a catch.
bp
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
bad pitching sorry offense sorry bench plus only one decent bullpen pitcher equals no playoffs.
TNScott
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
Any reason to watch anymore?
Efrim
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
So close…..great at bat. They are moving on all cylinders – it’s incredible.
Disgusted
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
Early shower for Huddy?????????? Whatever.
Another loss vs the NYY, big deal. Ho hum.
tired of the Atl
June 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
valdosta, agree. It’s rebuilding time around Freeman, Simmons, Heyward, Prado, Kimbrel, Beachy, Minor, Medlen, Hanson. Trade Bourn before the deadline, shop Jurrjens. Hang onto McCann for another year while a catcher in the minors gets ready. Dump Fredi for someone who will let give the kids some leadership, play the kids, get another veteran pitcher and hitter in here with the $ and let them make a serious run in a year or two.
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:40 pm
Braves are so overmatched
nolie
June 19th, 2012
7:41 pm
Timmy ain’t fooling anybody so far this inning
MFin04
June 19th, 2012
7:41 pm
Must win this game.
ncbravesfan90
June 19th, 2012
7:41 pm
Why does it feel like we are down 10-0 now?
Disgusted
June 19th, 2012
7:41 pm
The Braves do not have the goods or the budget to trade for and retain a proven frontline SP who is in his prime.
And truth is that we do not need one, we need two if not 3.
Building project season. This is not getting turned around if anything its getting worse.
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
7:41 pm
@nolie: Gardner’s been on the DL with shoulder/elbow issues, but is looking to return after the break. Was all set to return this week but had a setback.
tired of the Atl
June 19th, 2012
7:41 pm
Yankees whoopin your behind and Uggla chatting it up with Nick Swisher about the new cup he bought at Wal Mart.
bp
June 19th, 2012
7:41 pm
Start tipping your caps.
B_F 54
June 19th, 2012
7:42 pm
Hoss
Murph
June 19th, 2012
7:42 pm
Well… crap.
MFin04
June 19th, 2012
7:42 pm
Possibly because we can’t score, and the Yankees can?
2011 again?
June 19th, 2012
7:42 pm
I’m done watching these losers!!! They freaking Stink!!! The TED will be so empty ater the All-Star Break… These bums don’t deserve our hard earned money…
B_F 54
June 19th, 2012
7:42 pm
Freddie
cowdogit
June 19th, 2012
7:43 pm
It’s disgusting to watch Chipper kissing up to the yankee players , It has a very negative effect on the young braves . No class for this glory hog . No pressure on Chipper , he knows Fredi hasn’t got the balls to take him out of the lineup .
keylargo
June 19th, 2012
7:43 pm
Melky Cabrerra – All Star Starter overtakes Ryan Braun in voting.
http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120619&content_id=33556622&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
Tomahawk Mafia
June 19th, 2012
7:43 pm
This Yankees team is so patient and they are good.
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
7:43 pm
Agree that we have no Ace on this staff now
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
7:43 pm
Sometimes Chipper shows flashes of his HOF brilliance.