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ThrOnlyBravesFan
June 20th, 2012
11:19 am
And for your enjoyment, the 10 heaviest players: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/499108-tipping-the-scale-the-top-ten-most-out-of-shape-baseball-players
WHAT??? No BMac?
Ease
June 20th, 2012
11:20 am
I agree, free Julio…Guy has nothing left to proof in the minors, just needs to prove that he belongs with the big club. Wren has been hoarding him for two seasons now. And for what? It’s his time..
ncscoots
June 20th, 2012
11:21 am
Scherzer is something else.
That guy…you watch him and wonder how anybody can get fair wood on a ball, and then you notice his WHIP is one-and-a-half. Just doesn’t figure.
One-Eyed Mac
June 20th, 2012
11:22 am
Unless JJ has a resurrection, I guess the question becomes is it better or easier to acquire a reliable reliever and move Medlen to the rotation or to acquire a reliable starter and keep Medlen in the pen.
Bat Masterson
June 20th, 2012
11:23 am
I wonder if the prosecutors would have been as compassionate towards me, and my addictions. Surely after they caught up to me on my new (new to me but used, no sense it being stupid) 34 foot sportfisher with a bunch of naked girls, their first concern would have been my mental wellbeing right.
Hell that guy might as well sue the bank. Bunch a bastids
Efrim
June 20th, 2012
11:28 am
That guy…you watch him and wonder how anybody can get fair wood on a ball, and then you notice his WHIP is one-and-a-half. Just doesn’t figure.
Big fan of his. There is a guy that most everyone thought was going to be a reliever because of how violent his delivery was on his elbow. Just nasty stuff.
tiger297
June 20th, 2012
11:29 am
listening to molly fletcher tell a story about francouer in a training session for work
CaptMudd
June 20th, 2012
11:30 am
I like Sue at the bank too! And the one in San Tropez………………..
Arkansas Transplant
June 20th, 2012
11:32 am
Joe Saunders would be a rather interesting option as long as he didn’t come attached to a high expectation on prospects required in a trade. If we could do something like that, we could then look at possibly moving Minor in some type of trade for Willingham or some sort of combination to possibly acquire Wil Myers.
CaptMudd
June 20th, 2012
11:32 am
@ncscoots…..just one before I go……Who needs to DH this afternoon?
One-Eyed Mac
June 20th, 2012
11:32 am
“I promise you one thing,” Maddon said, “you’re going to see brand-new gloves throughout the major leagues starting tomorrow, with pitchers on every major league ball club.”
I’m not able to watch the game today but it will be interesting to see if any Braves or Yankees pitchers are sporting shiny new gloves.
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
11:35 am
“I promise you one thing,” Maddon said, “you’re going to see brand-new gloves throughout the major leagues starting tomorrow, with pitchers on every major league ball club”
Bull. Not ONE guy will change their glove. NOT ONE.
cricket
June 20th, 2012
11:37 am
feels like Maddon has broken the record for most number of prissy post-game interviews in majors recently. off course his team was not at fault at a single time..
CaptMudd
June 20th, 2012
11:38 am
Heck, a new glove is like a new pair of ‘wing tips’ that are a size small in linear measurement
Efrim
June 20th, 2012
11:39 am
Mark Bowman:
If Jurrjens struggles like he did while posting a 9.37 ERA before being demoted to Triple-A Gwinnett in late April, the Braves will have even more reason to aggressively pursue Ryan Dempster or any of the other attractive starting pitchers that might be available on the trade market.
To fit Dempster or another of these pitchers within the constraints of this year’s payroll, the Braves will need to be creative. With Chipper Jones and now Indians pitcher Derek Lowe both coming off of their payroll next year, the Braves will have some money to play with on the free-agent market this winter.
But still uncomfortable by the results of the 2009 offseason, when they acquired Lowe and Kenshin Kawakami on the free-agent market, the Braves might use some of the money budgeted for the future to address their needs on this year’s trade market.
Fols
June 20th, 2012
11:40 am
Is Chip out of the line-up? We have a rest day tomorrow….and a DH spot. Did my Twitter eyes lie to me?
David O'Brien
June 20th, 2012
11:41 am
1B Teixeira out of lineup today after getting smashed in heel by Heyward liner. Said might’ve been hardest ball ever hit at him.
JoshTown
June 20th, 2012
11:42 am
“None of the breaks kind of went our way tonight,” Teixeira said. Ummm, you guys just won 10 in a row. I’d say you got plenty of breaks in the last week and a half, Mark. That being said, Go Braves!
David O'Brien
June 20th, 2012
11:42 am
Wren said Beachy is last patient that Dr. Andrews will see today. And they’re in Pensacola, Central Time Zone. And it’ll have to go through Wren before Braves make announcement, which Wren said probably wouldn’t be until at least when team is on train headed to Boston late this afternoon/early tonight.
David O'Brien
June 20th, 2012
11:43 am
But as I’ve said, I’ll be surprised if it’s anything but surgery is recommended and scheduled, for Beachy’s partial ligament tear.
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
11:43 am
“Said might’ve been hardest ball ever hit at him.”
It is ALWAYS the hardest ball hit at you when it actually HITS you. But I’m sure Jason Heyward did have a little something to do with it.
Fols
June 20th, 2012
11:44 am
DOB
Doesn’t his ERA bump him up the wait list…I mean LAST appointment sounds kind of ‘bush’.
Duke
June 20th, 2012
11:45 am
I don’t think anyone is expecting anything other than TJ for Beachy. Such a good season he had going too.
I don’t really understand why Chipper isn’t in the lineup today. He has tomorrow off to rest. Just doesn’t make much sense. We are going for a series win and we need all the help we can get.
Fols
June 20th, 2012
11:51 am
If Chip can’t go, they should really consider doing the fans a favor, rest him on the first game of the series not the last. This is typically when each team honors Chipper Jones, fans all across the country appreciate what he’s accomplished over the years. I’d like to see him play in these games and not just run out of a dugout to tip his cap. They aren’t honoring his retirement, they are honoring his last professional season…which he is still playing in…so play.
Efrim
June 20th, 2012
11:52 am
Nice little article on Navery Moore, Braves RHP down in Rome. Selected in the 14th round last year and was given an over slot bonus – rare for our Braves to do.
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120608&content_id=32988040&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb
jeffrey d
June 20th, 2012
11:52 am
Is Andrews’ office just like other doctors’? Is Beachy sitting in a musky waiting room, sifting through last year’s Hilights magazine while kids are playing with some wooden toy set and a lady is complaining about insurance?
David O'Brien
June 20th, 2012
11:52 am
Bravos lineup: Bourn cf, Prado lf, McCann dh, Uggla 2b, Freeman 1b, Heyward rf, Simmons ss, Francisco 3B, Ross, c (Hanson p)
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
11:53 am
Sad when you can’t make it through a 3-game series with a DH. Very sad.
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
11:53 am
Fols, Chipper will sit whenever he and team feel it is best for him to sit for the team’s success, not to coincide with pre-game ceremonies.
Arkansas Transplant
June 20th, 2012
11:53 am
I don’t really understand why Chipper isn’t in the lineup today. He has tomorrow off to rest.
That’s cause, Fredi is the manager. Like I said, you just have to shake your head. He’s so over matched as a manager it isn’t funny.
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
11:55 am
Gonzalez had been planning on DHing Chipper today. I’m pretty sure he’s not in because Chipper physically isn’t up to playing today, for some reason.
cabravesfan
June 20th, 2012
11:56 am
Peter Moylan @PeterMoylan
Live BP was stella
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
11:57 am
Also, as we’ve established, being the DH doesn’t save you from all that much effort, especially from a 3rd baseman. 90% of the energy Chipper would exert would be at the plate and on the bases.
Tomahawkin
June 20th, 2012
11:57 am
Brian from SC
“Gonzalez had been planning on DHing Chipper today. I’m pretty sure he’s not in because Chipper physically isn’t up to playing today, for some reason.”
I told you that Chipper would be out, Its a Day game after a Night Game
ncscoots
June 20th, 2012
11:58 am
That’s cause, Fredi is the manager.
I’m not exactly a Fredo fan, but, geez, he gets blamed for lack of world peace by some of you guys, LOL. Maybe Chipper just needed a day, his call. I seriously doubt that leg is up to speed, even yet.
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
11:59 am
In other words, I highly doubt it was Fredi saying ‘Gosh, I just don’t think Chipper should play today. Let’s get Francisco some ABs.”
Much more likely it was Chipper saying “Skip, I just don’t think I can go today. I can pinch-hit.”
Murph
June 20th, 2012
11:59 am
I still think the team should go get Willingham, then create a schedule, much like if the guys worked at McDonalds, that consistently rotates Chipper and Prado at third, giving Willingham lots of playing time in left.
Chipper should plan on playing every other game from now until the end of the season. That’ll keep him fresh and guys can mentally plan on playing time. I know, according to Shaun they are all professionals and should be ready to hit triples at a moment’s notice, but I bet they’d all benefit knowing that, ok, Chipper played yesterday, so today I’m at third. Then tomorrow, back in left.
Duke
June 20th, 2012
12:01 pm
Chipper………………………..
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
12:01 pm
“being the DH doesn’t save you from all that much effort, especially from a 3rd baseman.”
Sure it does, he doesn’t have to run out on the field, field any balls, charge any bunts. The less time he is on the field, the safer it is for Chipper.
George
June 20th, 2012
12:02 pm
Hi all
It was not easy or pretty, but a win is a win is a win, to bad it counts as only one. Good to see JASON have a good game.
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
12:03 pm
Field any balls…like two per game that aren’t right at him. Charge bunts…maybe once every two or three games. 3rd base is one of the last active positions on the field. It might be the least.
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
12:04 pm
Least active as far as moving around on your legs, anyway.
Arkansas Transplant
June 20th, 2012
12:05 pm
Well, I do believe it was Fredi who choose to start Hinske in the first game of the series. He’s a waste of a good spot on the bench. I think it’s time to cut our loses.
George
June 20th, 2012
12:05 pm
Great picture of JETER and CHIPPER on front page of this.
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
12:06 pm
“like two per game that aren’t right at him. Charge bunts…maybe once every two or three games. 3rd base is one of the last active positions on the field. It might be the least.”
He got hurt in warm-ups during Spring Training, the day of his retirement announcement. I put nothing past Chipper getting hurt anymore. He could get hurt jogging in/out to 3rd 9 times a game. Who knows.
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
12:06 pm
Hinske did not start in the first game of the series.
DAP
June 20th, 2012
12:07 pm
speaking of free agent staring pitchers, there is a guy who will probably be overlooked in an offseason with a crazy amount of pitchers, both starters and relievers…but anibal sanchez is just 29, and will be a free agent. i think hes a better pitcher than he gets credit for. if the braves want to solidify or bulk up the rotation, they could do worse. he has the right amount of experience without being to old, and wont be one of the higher paid pitchers in the offseason, id imagine.
Beachy will be out most of the year and Jurrjens will mostly likely be gone one way or another. Braves could package Mike Minor for Chase Headly to play 3rd, and sign Sanchez to be their 4th starter, with Medlen and Redman for depth.
George
June 20th, 2012
12:09 pm
Why is CHIPPER not playing today? He could DH, that would not wear him out to bat 4 times or so.
Arkansas Transplant
June 20th, 2012
12:09 pm
Brian, last night then.
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:09 pm
Giving up on Minor at this time would be crazy. He’s still learning the game. Most guys his age are still in the minors, no pun intended.
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
12:11 pm
Wonder if Minor or Teheran will pitch in the All-Star Homerun Derby this year?
Arkansas Transplant
June 20th, 2012
12:11 pm
What do you think it would take to get Saunders from Arizona?
David O'Brien
June 20th, 2012
12:12 pm
Venters said Kimbrel lately is like a videogame pitcher you create with the highest rating possible: “He’s out there pushing Nintendo buttons.”
cricket
June 20th, 2012
12:12 pm
i honestly don’t understand why DOB bothers getting quotes from Fredi since many on here have complete and doubtless access to Fredi’s thinking (as little as they give him credit for being able to think at all)
DAP
June 20th, 2012
12:15 pm
owl hunter Giving up on Minor at this time would be crazy. He’s still learning the game.
trading him wouldnt be giving up on him. braves will need a 3rd baseman, and they have a bunch of different ways they can go to fill that need (prado) but trading minor for an emerging 3rd baseman wouldnt be a bad way to go, necessarily.
the team will look very different next season, one way or another.
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
12:15 pm
Chipper will probably pinch hit for the DH.
Efrim
June 20th, 2012
12:15 pm
Don’t think it would take too much to get Saunders or McCarthy. Might take more to get Vargas because he’s under control through 2013 – whereas the previous two are not. But none of those guys are costing you a top prospect, imo.
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
12:15 pm
Tommy Hanson is 12-2 with a 3.24 ERA in 17 career starts in June.
George
June 20th, 2012
12:15 pm
Sure would be better to have CHIPPER’s bat in there today as DH. Again FREDI not useing what little baseball sense he has.
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:16 pm
Getting Joe Saunders would be a lateral move. I’d take Medlen or Teheran over him at this time. Saunders is the definition of average.
Efrim
June 20th, 2012
12:16 pm
I’m really hoping they move Prado to 3rd base for the long term and also extend him beyond next season.
Arkansas Transplant
June 20th, 2012
12:17 pm
Fredi is just over matched… it’s not his fault.
cabravesfan
June 20th, 2012
12:17 pm
Sure would be better to have CHIPPER’s bat in there today as DH. Again FREDI not useing what little baseball sense he has.
Naturally. I mean, it’s not like Mac is hitting better than Chipper right now…
Sopheee
June 20th, 2012
12:17 pm
brick wall worthy
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:18 pm
DAP
I get you, but the 3B market is weak, especially when you consider that Chipper is still one of the best in the game at the position. I like Minor despite his struggles, and I think it would be a big mistake to trade him unless some really crazy deal comes along.
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
12:18 pm
“I’m really hoping they move Prado to 3rd base for the long term and also extend him beyond next season.”
That or trade him for Seth Smith.
cabravesfan
June 20th, 2012
12:19 pm
Sopheee-
Which one?
Arkansas Transplant
June 20th, 2012
12:19 pm
Saunders is consistent and constantly goes deep into games… He may not be flashy but I think he would fit in quite well.
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
12:19 pm
Overall, the Braves are 15-2 in games that Hanson starts in June.
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:19 pm
I love how Fredi decided that Beachy would be fine solely based on being an “optimist.” This man is a buffoon. I wish Eddie Perez was our manager so much.
DAP
June 20th, 2012
12:20 pm
efrim I’m really hoping they move Prado to 3rd base for the long term and also extend him beyond next season.
i really like chase headly, and would be very pleased to trade for him. but, either way, prado needs a long term deal after this season. i want to see him locked up to play LF, 3rd, even 2nd and 1st sometimes. prado may become one of my all time favorite braves.
George Stein
June 20th, 2012
12:20 pm
I think I have a fairly long track record or Fredi disapproval, but sitting Chipper is pretty nonoffensive to me. This way, he gets two full days to sit. And Chipper, even at 8,234 years old, is still pretty damned good, which means you deal with this stuff.
George
June 20th, 2012
12:21 pm
The only thing not so great about the win last night is it gives FREDI more time before he has to walk the plank as BRAVES MGR.
ncbravesfan90
June 20th, 2012
12:21 pm
Teheran is just not ready to contribute at the big league level yet. He pitched 5 games for the big league club last year and 1 game this year and has only pitched 5 innings one time in those 6 starts. He will probably be a big league star one day, but not this year.
DAP
June 20th, 2012
12:21 pm
owl hunter I think it would be a big mistake to trade him unless some really crazy deal comes along.
could be. headly would be a free agent after 2014, so we would be giving up many years of minor for it. i think headly could break out really soon, though.
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:23 pm
DAP
Good point, but I think it should take more than Headley to get Minor, even now.
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:24 pm
Minor has sthe stuff. That an’t be taught. He just has to be molded into a major leaye pitcher. That can be taught
George
June 20th, 2012
12:25 pm
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:19 pm
I love how Fredi decided that Beachy would be fine solely based on being an “optimist.” This man is a buffoon. I wish Eddie Perez was our manager so much.
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ME TO AND THIS YEAR!
cabravesfan
June 20th, 2012
12:26 pm
So now Fredi is a buffoon because he is optimistic about injuries and hopes for the best? Got it…guess that makes me one too…
Ease
June 20th, 2012
12:28 pm
George, go eat your jello. Its red today, your favorite.
CrαZy
June 20th, 2012
12:28 pm
Venters said Kimbrel lately is like a videogame pitcher you create with the highest rating possible: “He’s out there pushing Nintendo buttons.”
He might be better than that right now!!
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
12:29 pm
30 minutes to game time.
CrαZy
June 20th, 2012
12:31 pm
It’s amazing how many people place all blame on a freaking Manager!!
Brian from SC
June 20th, 2012
12:32 pm
Crazy, he’s easier to blame because us knuckleheads sitting at home tend to think we can do it better. Usually we don’t say that about the players.
CrαZy
June 20th, 2012
12:32 pm
I hate day games!!
ncbravesfan90
June 20th, 2012
12:32 pm
“It’s amazing how many people place all blame on a freaking Manager!!”
Well when a team wins, the manager gets all the praise. Same should be for a loss, should get the blame.
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:33 pm
cabravesfan
It’s more about Fredi running his mouth based on nothing, and then getting immediately conradicted by Wren. This isn’t the first time. Remember the LP thing at the beginning of the offseason? If you’re going to make dumb in-game decisions, at least come off as intelligent in interviews.
CrαZy
June 20th, 2012
12:33 pm
us knuckleheads sitting at home tend to think we can do it better
Must be from playing too many video games!!!
George
June 20th, 2012
12:34 pm
Not haveing CHIPPER’s bat in lineup in a game were he does not have to play in field is a SIN. He might not be hitting so great at the moment, but He is always dangerous to put one in the outfield seats.
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:34 pm
For the record, when we win, I think it has more to do with the talent on the team than this particular manager. As a strategist, he is overmatched. We win in spite of him in most instances.
Ease
June 20th, 2012
12:35 pm
Well when a team wins, the manager gets all the praise.
Who here has EVER given Fredi praise for a well managed win? Doesn’t happen. At all.
ncbravesfan90
June 20th, 2012
12:36 pm
“For the record, when we win, I think it has more to do with the talent on the team than this particular manager. As a strategist, he is overmatched. We win in spite of him in most instances”
THIS!! Very well said!
ncbravesfan90
June 20th, 2012
12:37 pm
Ease-
I was meaning in general, on any given team.
CrαZy
June 20th, 2012
12:38 pm
Well when a team wins, the manager gets all the praise. Same should be for a loss, should get the blame.
No… The manager shouldn’t get the praise or the blame… They’re just not that important!! Now I do think Fred makes some questionable calls and I probably agree that we could’ve done better than him for a manager, but he’s not at the top of my list of problems with this team!!
George
June 20th, 2012
12:38 pm
MFin04
June 20th, 2012
12:29 pm
30 minutes to game time.
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30 minnutes till I am outta here, Where is Brava? She supports me.
cabravesfan
June 20th, 2012
12:40 pm
No… The manager shouldn’t get the praise or the blame… They’re just not that important!! Now I do think Fred makes some questionable calls and I probably agree that we could’ve done better than him for a manager, but he’s not at the top of my list of problems with this team!!
This
ncbravesfan90
June 20th, 2012
12:42 pm
To anyone who have watched just one Braves game this year knows that Fredi has made more than just some questionable calls. I mean its on a nightly basis guys.
George
June 20th, 2012
12:45 pm
I have some supporters out there, thank you all.
ncbravesfan90
June 20th, 2012
12:45 pm
I mean really, could you see him going up against Tony LaRussa in game 7 of the NLDS or some big game like that?
Owl Hunter
June 20th, 2012
12:45 pm
Fredi used Lugo as the first bat off the bench repeatedly last season. Doing that one time is a fireable offense unless the rest of the guys come down with the flu at the same time. He has major issues.