2:31 pm June 19, 2012, by David O'Brien
June 19th, 201210:34 pm
Wonder what Don Sutton thought of Peralta getting tossed. I love it when he says “Homeplate umpires should mind their own business”.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
I don’t think anybody will argue that.
HERE we go! ALL ABOARD!!…
June 19th, 201210:35 pm
Or DOB just needs to move out the way!
Soph, what’s funny is as I was melting down over the Venters/Arod grand slam (more freaking out about Fredi leaving him out there)…. he’s laughing his ass off and my wife is whispering for him to knock it off.
I loved it. One of my best friends growing up was a huge Cowboys fan and his dad was die-hard Packers all the way. it was always a blast in the mid-90’s to watch those Packers/Cowboys playoff games with them. They were at each other’s throats (verbally of course) for every second. I always kind of wished my boys would like other teams for that reason. Seemed like they had fun with it.
June 19th, 201210:36 pm
Ah well…it got late on me again. Time to shut down…
Good win, boys! Let’s take the series tomorrow!!
June 19th, 2012
Well, at least Hardcore Pawn is on tonight. One of the few reality shows I like. I love seeing how screwed up so many people really are, especially in Detroit.
LOL! Trey, i commend your compassion for the average Joe!
June 19th, 201210:37 pm
Hudson threw 109 pitches (65 strikes) in 5 innings — 4 H, 3 R (2 ER), 5 walks, 5 K’s.
June 19th, 201210:38 pm
ab – they are finishing up a tough stretch of schedule against the best teams in the majors this year. They have been competitive and most of the games just missing a key hit (or giving up a key hit) here or there.
I can’t say I’m happy but I also can’t say I’m shocked about going 16-20 over their last 36 games.
McFann and Trey, I’d rather he be a Mets fan than the Phillies. He would officially be crossed off my x-mas gift list if he ever shows up in Phils gear. LOL.
Hudson on Heyward: “He shows flashes of greatness.”
Chipper on Heyward; “We all know his talent. He’s a five-tool player when healthy.”
June 19th, 201210:42 pm
n8 – I can watch a game with a fan of any team but do not respond well to trash talking (so for the sake of fairness I don’t trash talk).
If someone does I generally have the discussion about come on dude don’t make me let you whoop my ass.
phil, I have compassion, but my compassion runs out when I see grown ups acting like that in public. It becomes pure comedy for me.
June 19th, 201210:44 pm
June 19th, 2012
Good game tonight, fun to watch.
Kimbrel smoked their asses
yes, he did! Missed most of the game but not that effort. He made Jeter look silly on that second strike. Looked like even the ump was laughing at em afterwards…
June 19th, 201210:45 pm
Ha, N8 that’s hilarious. That sounds just like my family growing up. The middle brother and I would gang up on the youngest one and give him hell when his teams lost and he’d do the same to us when all of our Atlanta teams lost. Drove our mom crazy with all the bickering and back and forth. I loved every minute though, still do.
June 19th, 201210:46 pm
Was a great night to enjoy a Braves/Yankee game in a NY sports bar… Off to NYC tomorrow to catch the guys in action. I may need binoculars from the nose bleeds I’ll be in. Great to see Simmons do well again.
June 19th, 201210:49 pm
N8, I don’t blame ya! I wouldn’t let them in my home and treat them like they are lepers.
June 19th, 201210:50 pm
Both Chipper and Jason redeemed themselves tonite…..good win
Reeduckulous how many foul calls Lebron gets.
June 19th, 2012
Hudson on Heyward: “He shows flashes of greatness every once in a while.”
what would these two losers know about Heyward?
Interesting that Chipper would say “when healthy”. Are we to believe that Heyward is injured the majority of the time?
Sure is good to see him going somewhat well this year.
Not really, though.
June 19th, 201210:55 pm
So what blunders did FG make tonight?
Surely the list is long….
June 19th, 201210:58 pm
Interesting that Chipper would say “when healthy”. Are we to believe that Heyward is injured the majority of the time? _ phil
Ha, reading things that way is what lead a bunch of people that comment on the AJC blogs to be ticked off last year when Chipper said ‘Heyward needs to understand that at 70% he’s better than most’. Saw it as calling Heyward out for not playing hurt.
June 19th, 201211:02 pm
That ball Heyward hit off of Tex’s leg was reminiscent of early 2010 when I thought he might kill someone with a ground ball.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
Winning ugly is still winning, I’ll take it.
As for Jason Heyward, dude belongs in the four hole or at least hitting fifth. After all, he has been the Braves best middle of the order hitter all month. While Uggla has sucked recently. But apparently Fredi still doesn’t keep track players recent BA or RBI totals??????
June 19th, 201211:03 pm
He played Hinske, but lucked out somehow.
June 19th, 201211:05 pm
Brought Venters into a one run game. Squeaked by on that one, too.
Braves would be smart to acquire Garza and sign him to an extension if the prospect cost is bearable
June 19th, 201211:06 pm
Kimbrel is fun to watch. He is one tough hombre
June 19th, 201211:07 pm
James Harden is choking like the Braves in the NLDS.
I have been saying it for a few weeks now. Hinske has lost his hitting eye. We need to find someone who can be that hitter off the bench.
And I love Hinske for the intangibles, but in this day of 12 man pitching staffs, you can only afford to have 1 non-hitting person on the bench (Wilson for the time being).
June 19th, 201211:08 pm
I would like to have Garza , if he would sign an extension, but it would take Delgado , Spruill and Cunningham to get him I bet
I imagine there are still Heyward-hatin’ idiots around…
June 19th, 201211:09 pm
It feels weird to actually be older than many Braves players these days.
June 19th, 201211:10 pm
I wouldn’t trade Delgado even up for Garza
June 19th, 201211:11 pm
What would you think is reasonable for Garza?
and Garza is represented by CAA so not a Boras guy, they often let their players sign extensions
June 19th, 201211:12 pm
nolie: yes, but they are outnumbered by the obsessed Chipper haters.
since Garza has one more year of arbitration left, I guarantee that someone will give one top prospect and 2 lower level ones for him
June 19th, 201211:13 pm
Trey: try being old enough to be the father of most of the Braves!
June 19th, 201211:14 pm
Though Garza has had some really great games, he’s really not quite as good as Huddy. And he comes with a high price tag in salary and prospects needed to acquire him.
Personally, I’d dance with the one that brung me first………
Try Jurrjens, Medlen or Teheran first.
or the grandfather of a few….
June 19th, 201211:15 pm
i reckon that’s what they will do, and we are “lucky” (if you wanna call it that) that we have over a month to try folks out before the trade deadline.
I’m not sold on Garza either, as i think he’s overpaid
June 19th, 201211:17 pm
Personally, I think we’re better off adding a bat at this point.
The pitching, while erratic at times, has been good enough if our hitters are hitting.
IllinoisBrave, that day will come, eventually….Hopefully!
June 19th, 201211:18 pm
Braves would try to substitute Minor NickB – extension would be key
Willingham or Headley would be the two bats I’d make a play for……….. Either would be a good addition for this year, plus fill in well for 2013.
June 19th, 201211:19 pm
well, we should add two bench bats probably, (I would like to go after Jack Cust and maybe just call up the Rev,) we might could get a relief arm for Francisco as he’s young and has lots of raw power.
I’m getting to be of the opinion that when you consider price and production, I’d rather just keep Delgado, now if they would take Gilmartin as the centerpiece and some low level guys, and they pay a lot of his salary, I’d make the deal
June 19th, 201211:20 pm
Hey DOB, thanks for the blog. Good stuff as always.
June 19th, 201211:21 pm
about the onliest Brave who ain’t got his own little nest of vipers is Simmons, and that’s cause he just got here. First bad slump and they will savage him too….
wouldn’t mind seing a move for a bat if its for more than a year…otherwise a good PH and another arm for the pen would be nice
DS1 – it depends on if Garza signs an extension or not. If not then it will likely be someone like Minor for Garza. If he signs an extension then Braves would need to add a prospect or two. Spruill has been mentioned. Teams will likely try to pry away Bethancourt first for prospects. Minor still has a lot of value on the trade market – much more than on this blog
June 19th, 201211:22 pm
I don’t think Jack Cust is playing in the majors this year………….
June 19th, 201211:23 pm
tiger – I agree. Unless the Braves can pull a trade for Greinke or in a dream world Hamels where they sign an extension, getting a solid bat and a solid 8th inning guy would be just as big.
how many innings does teheran have this year? going to suck if we start counting on him and then run out of innings in august
team is too young as it is, they do not need another 22 year old like the Rev on the bench.
not a Cust fan at all, let him stay in the minors or wherever he is
June 19th, 201211:26 pm
he isn’t, he’s tearing the cover off the ball in the Yankees AAA, had a lousy year in 2011 on a lousy Mariners team, but before that he was a great bench bat, I think he’d be worth a shot and wouldn’t cost us much, heck he can’t hit worse than Hinske or Francisco has
he pitched 142 last year so what is it 20% increase so 170 and he has pitched 60 so 110 innings or about 18 starts…might make it 1/2 the year
The A Bomb
June 19th, 201211:28 pm
When I consistently compare Heyward to Willie McCovey — there you go. Ask Tex.
You all will see. This guy’s a monster about ready to explode.
Can’t speak for the MANIC team — but this guy’s getting his motor revved up.
Cust has a career OPS of .848 against righties , and some power, I’m just trying to think inside our limited payroll here folks
June 19th, 201211:29 pm
Especially from the younger folks on the blog who ain’t used to losing, nolie.
heck he can’t hit worse than Hinske or Francisco has…NickB
yeah that would be hard to do, still never liked him much. Dunn with a bit less pop
Hamels would never sign an extension, he’s pitching for a Cliff Lee type deal with the Yankees
He pitched about 164 last year, tiger. He had some big league inngings.
Add 30 and he would be close to 200.
June 19th, 201211:30 pm
Agreed on the Rev. He won’t be back unless we have an infield injury. Don’t know if we can afford a player that can’t play a little bit of defense (Cust).
I prefer 1 more bat and a bullpen arm.
WOW, your man Durbin has sure come through since the game I attended with you and yours!
June 19th, 201211:31 pm
postgame utterances (QUOTAGE)
problem with trying to get guys like Willingham or Youkliss is that they really are too good to be bench players, and I’d worry that Fredi would take playin time away from Heyward for them.
Plus both are butchers in the field. Bench bats are like relief pitchers, you never really know what you are gonna get one year to the next. Look at Hinske and Brooks Conrad, one year great, next year, worthless
ds1 – i make no comment for fear of jinx
June 19th, 201211:32 pm
when its sleepy time down south…
(damn this new job I have to drive into the office every day)
Agree with those who think the bigger need is a bat or relief pitcher more than a starter, esp. since any starter worth getting will cost a bunch.
As long as they try to pull the ball over the foul pole every at bat our ingenious field commander will love whatever player it is. No bunting, no strategy, just Mongo it over the foul pole.
At some point later this season (and maybe not so late), Teheran will get a half a dozen starts to show whether he can stick in the bigs.
June 19th, 201211:33 pm
I’m not convinced that Willingham is capable of being the same offensive player in the NL. As for Chase Headley, the guy is 28 and eligible for free agency until after the 2014 season. If traded he could be expensive, as in several players traded.
But no, our Braves are in no position to be trading any of their starters right now. Especially given that Beachy is likely done for the season, along with the question mark that is JJ. Throw in Minors erratic performances and there it is….to many questions, not enough answers.
June 19th, 201211:35 pm
I’d love to see the Braves bring Brooks back onboard at the AAA level.
Here’s a deal for all of you to ponder:
Cubs get : Minor, Francisco,Zeke Spruill,Terdo and Luis Avilan
Braves get :Garza,Shawn Camp and Reed Johnson
June 19th, 201211:36 pm
June 19th, 201211:37 pm
I am still a fan of Eduardo Nunez – would love to see him in LF for the Braves with Prado at 3B next year and when Chipper rests this year
June 19th, 201211:38 pm
@NickB: what about LaHair or Campana?
Enter your comments here
June 19th, 201211:39 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
It’s inaugural 2012 night at DANVILLE in high rookie APPALACHIAN League and the D-BRAVES but none of the pitchers are from the 2012 draft class. Four position players are however. BRAVES win 7-5 over ELIZABETHTON, TENNESSEE.
RHSP MAURICIO CABRERA [2.25 ERA] 4.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R/ER, 2 BB, 4 SO.
RHRP WILLIAMS PEREZ [W 1-0, 0.00 ERA] 2.0 IP, no-hits, 2 BB, 2 SO.
RHRP CHARLIE ROBERTSON [4.50 ERA] 2.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.
RHRP IGNACIO ‘Iggy’ GERONIMO [0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.
Lead-off 2B LEVI HYAMS [.333 BA] 1-3, 2 RBI , 2 SF , 1 SB . 19th round 2012.
RF BLAKE BROWN [.200 BA] 1-5, 1 R, 1 HR , 1 RBI . GOLDEN SOMBRERO! Ole’ 5th round 2012.
DH TRENTON MOSES [.500 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B , 1 RBI . 26th round 2012.
SS ERIC GARCIA [.333 BA] 1-3, 1 BB, 2 SB , 1 E [1, fielding]. 20th round 2012.
C NICK DeSANTIAGO [.500 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 3B , 2 RBI . 5th round 2011.
CF FELIX MARTE [.750 BA] 3-4, 2 R, 1 2B . FA DSL 2008.
June 19th, 201211:41 pm
if Jurrjens pitches well and there is any sort of trade market for him, he will be gone in a month. 5th starter would be fine with Medlen but again we would have to acquire a 8th inning righty relief pitcher. Teheran also would be a fine 5th starter and he also could be a valuable addition to the bullpen late in the year.
Of course the key to those being fine as #5 starters is for Delgado to pitch like a 3 and Minor to pitch like a 4.
Willingham has spent most of his career in the NL. he ain’t gonna keep hitting like he is right now anywhere, but his OPS+ numbers for all other years are about the same
June 19th, 201211:42 pm
WAY too big and complicated NB
More in the a.m. NYTOL!
LaHair is not available but would look good in LF
June 19th, 201211:43 pm
thanks for the updates richbrave – I also love their draft status/prospect status in the updates
if JJ pitches well why would they trade him given all the pitching woes we have had? If he doesn’t pitch well he will have next to no trade value at all
June 19th, 201211:44 pm
I really like Willingham a lot! Was really wishing we had enough cash over the winter to make him a decent offer.
At 7 million per, he’s well worth the contract.
And Headley is a good OBP guy and young.
Lahair’s problem is he’s a lefty and not a bench bat and someone like LA will give them more so they can start him at first instead of Loney.
June 19th, 201211:45 pm
yeah, just popping out ideas, it does give us a starter a reliever and a bench bat all in one though
June 19th, 201211:46 pm
OKC is letting the world down big time. Play your tails off against San Antonio only to choke it up in the Finals.
IMO we do NOT need another lefty, in fact if Bourn leaves I hope they can find a righty to replace him
Willingham wouldn’t be a bad pickup for 2013, but I see no place for a starting bat on our team unless you want to bench Chipper or Freeman…. and since we all know that isn’t happening, we are left with looking through the benches of the bottom half of teams
June 19th, 201211:47 pm
Willy on bench and spot starter rest of this year, starting LFer next two with Prado at third
June 19th, 201211:48 pm
WHEN Bourn leaves I hope they can find ANYTHING to replace him! lol
I frankly have no idea what the CF plan for next year is. I ,personally, would try for Peter Borjous and his mighty defense, if he finally starts to hit , great, then we could try and sign an all bat mediocre glove for LF and not sweat it, seriously Bourjos is an even better fielder than Bourn
June 19th, 201211:49 pm
I’m thinking that with all the games we have missed Chipper and Freeman this year, we could fit 1 more bat into the rotation. Besides, you know how much Fredi likes to rest guys.
But if we’re going to get him, it should have been 10 days ago before these AL games.
June 19th, 201211:50 pm
No free agent of note would want to come to ATL. Trade route is all Braves have.
I’m not going to worry about 2013 for another 6-8 months.
June 19th, 201211:51 pm
Only free agents we will see will probably be bench players or relief pitchers.
a free agent will go to whoever offers him the best deal, it’s not like Atlanta is a cesspool or has super high taxes
June 19th, 201211:54 pm
Right — I see a payroll cut despite all the $ off the books.
And I don’t see top free agents lining up to (1) play for a cheap organization and (2) a MANIC team and a manager who hasn’t really proven a damn thing at the big boy level. Oh yeah (3) Washington will spend and win.
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