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IHEARTCARROLL
June 19th, 2012
10:34 pm
Wonder what Don Sutton thought of Peralta getting tossed. I love it when he says “Homeplate umpires should mind their own business”.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 19th, 2012
10:34 pm
I don’t think anybody will argue that.
HERE we go! ALL ABOARD!!…
ChattTownBrian
June 19th, 2012
10:35 pm
Or DOB just needs to move out the way!
N8
June 19th, 2012
10:35 pm
Soph, what’s funny is as I was melting down over the Venters/Arod grand slam (more freaking out about Fredi leaving him out there)…. he’s laughing his ass off and my wife is whispering for him to knock it off.
I loved it. One of my best friends growing up was a huge Cowboys fan and his dad was die-hard Packers all the way. it was always a blast in the mid-90’s to watch those Packers/Cowboys playoff games with them. They were at each other’s throats (verbally of course) for every second. I always kind of wished my boys would like other teams for that reason. Seemed like they had fun with it.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 19th, 2012
10:36 pm
Ah well…it got late on me again. Time to shut down…
Good win, boys! Let’s take the series tomorrow!!
phil
June 19th, 2012
10:36 pm
Trey
June 19th, 2012
10:00 pm
Well, at least Hardcore Pawn is on tonight. One of the few reality shows I like. I love seeing how screwed up so many people really are, especially in Detroit.
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LOL! Trey, i commend your compassion for the average Joe!
David O'Brien
June 19th, 2012
10:37 pm
Hudson threw 109 pitches (65 strikes) in 5 innings — 4 H, 3 R (2 ER), 5 walks, 5 K’s.
tiger297
June 19th, 2012
10:38 pm
ab – they are finishing up a tough stretch of schedule against the best teams in the majors this year. They have been competitive and most of the games just missing a key hit (or giving up a key hit) here or there.
I can’t say I’m happy but I also can’t say I’m shocked about going 16-20 over their last 36 games.
N8
June 19th, 2012
10:38 pm
McFann and Trey, I’d rather he be a Mets fan than the Phillies. He would officially be crossed off my x-mas gift list if he ever shows up in Phils gear. LOL.
David O'Brien
June 19th, 2012
10:38 pm
Hudson on Heyward: “He shows flashes of greatness.”
Chipper on Heyward; “We all know his talent. He’s a five-tool player when healthy.”
tiger297
June 19th, 2012
10:42 pm
n8 – I can watch a game with a fan of any team but do not respond well to trash talking (so for the sake of fairness I don’t trash talk).
If someone does I generally have the discussion about come on dude don’t make me let you whoop my ass.
Trey
June 19th, 2012
10:42 pm
phil, I have compassion, but my compassion runs out when I see grown ups acting like that in public.
It becomes pure comedy for me.
phil
June 19th, 2012
10:44 pm
Bat Masterson
June 19th, 2012
10:28 pm
Good game tonight, fun to watch.
Kimbrel smoked their asses
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yes, he did! Missed most of the game but not that effort. He made Jeter look silly on that second strike. Looked like even the ump was laughing at em afterwards…
Sopheee
June 19th, 2012
10:45 pm
Ha, N8 that’s hilarious. That sounds just like my family growing up. The middle brother and I would gang up on the youngest one and give him hell when his teams lost and he’d do the same to us when all of our Atlanta teams lost. Drove our mom crazy with all the bickering and back and forth. I loved every minute though, still do.
Kat
June 19th, 2012
10:46 pm
Was a great night to enjoy a Braves/Yankee game in a NY sports bar…
Off to NYC tomorrow to catch the guys in action. I may need binoculars from the nose bleeds I’ll be in. Great to see Simmons do well again.
Trey
June 19th, 2012
10:49 pm
N8, I don’t blame ya! I wouldn’t let them in my home and treat them like they are lepers.
BravesfaninAugusta
June 19th, 2012
10:50 pm
Both Chipper and Jason redeemed themselves tonite…..good win
Sopheee
June 19th, 2012
10:50 pm
Reeduckulous how many foul calls Lebron gets.
phil
June 19th, 2012
10:50 pm
David O’Brien
June 19th, 2012
10:38 pm
Hudson on Heyward: “He shows flashes of greatness every once in a while.”
Chipper on Heyward; “We all know his talent. He’s a five-tool player when healthy.”
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what would these two losers know about Heyward?
Interesting that Chipper would say “when healthy”. Are we to believe that Heyward is injured the majority of the time?
Sure is good to see him going somewhat well this year.
Trey
June 19th, 2012
10:50 pm
Not really, though.
phil
June 19th, 2012
10:55 pm
So what blunders did FG make tonight?
Surely the list is long….
Bat Masterson
June 19th, 2012
10:58 pm
Interesting that Chipper would say “when healthy”. Are we to believe that Heyward is injured the majority of the time? _ phil
Ha, reading things that way is what lead a bunch of people that comment on the AJC blogs to be ticked off last year when Chipper said ‘Heyward needs to understand that at 70% he’s better than most’. Saw it as calling Heyward out for not playing hurt.
Bat Masterson
June 19th, 2012
11:02 pm
That ball Heyward hit off of Tex’s leg was reminiscent of early 2010 when I thought he might kill someone with a ground ball.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
June 19th, 2012
11:02 pm
Winning ugly is still winning, I’ll take it.
As for Jason Heyward, dude belongs in the four hole or at least hitting fifth. After all, he has been the Braves best middle of the order hitter all month. While Uggla has sucked recently. But apparently Fredi still doesn’t keep track players recent BA or RBI totals??????
Bat Masterson
June 19th, 2012
11:03 pm
He played Hinske, but lucked out somehow.
Bat Masterson
June 19th, 2012
11:05 pm
Brought Venters into a one run game. Squeaked by on that one, too.
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:05 pm
Braves would be smart to acquire Garza and sign him to an extension if the prospect cost is bearable
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:06 pm
Kimbrel is fun to watch. He is one tough hombre
stizz
June 19th, 2012
11:07 pm
James Harden is choking like the Braves in the NLDS.
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:07 pm
I have been saying it for a few weeks now. Hinske has lost his hitting eye. We need to find someone who can be that hitter off the bench.
And I love Hinske for the intangibles, but in this day of 12 man pitching staffs, you can only afford to have 1 non-hitting person on the bench (Wilson for the time being).
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:08 pm
I would like to have Garza , if he would sign an extension, but it would take Delgado , Spruill and Cunningham to get him I bet
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:08 pm
I imagine there are still Heyward-hatin’ idiots around…
Trey
June 19th, 2012
11:09 pm
It feels weird to actually be older than many Braves players these days.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:10 pm
I wouldn’t trade Delgado even up for Garza
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:11 pm
brian
What would you think is reasonable for Garza?
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:11 pm
and Garza is represented by CAA so not a Boras guy, they often let their players sign extensions
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
11:12 pm
nolie: yes, but they are outnumbered by the obsessed Chipper haters.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:12 pm
since Garza has one more year of arbitration left, I guarantee that someone will give one top prospect and 2 lower level ones for him
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
11:13 pm
Trey: try being old enough to be the father of most of the Braves!
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:14 pm
Though Garza has had some really great games, he’s really not quite as good as Huddy. And he comes with a high price tag in salary and prospects needed to acquire him.
Personally, I’d dance with the one that brung me first………
Try Jurrjens, Medlen or Teheran first.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:14 pm
or the grandfather of a few….
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:15 pm
DS1
i reckon that’s what they will do, and we are “lucky” (if you wanna call it that) that we have over a month to try folks out before the trade deadline.
I’m not sold on Garza either, as i think he’s overpaid
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:17 pm
Personally, I think we’re better off adding a bat at this point.
The pitching, while erratic at times, has been good enough if our hitters are hitting.
Trey
June 19th, 2012
11:17 pm
IllinoisBrave, that day will come, eventually….Hopefully!
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:18 pm
Braves would try to substitute Minor NickB – extension would be key
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:18 pm
Willingham or Headley would be the two bats I’d make a play for……….. Either would be a good addition for this year, plus fill in well for 2013.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:19 pm
well, we should add two bench bats probably, (I would like to go after Jack Cust and maybe just call up the Rev,) we might could get a relief arm for Francisco as he’s young and has lots of raw power.
I’m getting to be of the opinion that when you consider price and production, I’d rather just keep Delgado, now if they would take Gilmartin as the centerpiece and some low level guys, and they pay a lot of his salary, I’d make the deal
Bravo Nam
June 19th, 2012
11:20 pm
Hey DOB, thanks for the blog. Good stuff as always.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:21 pm
about the onliest Brave who ain’t got his own little nest of vipers is Simmons, and that’s cause he just got here. First bad slump and they will savage him too….
tiger297
June 19th, 2012
11:21 pm
wouldn’t mind seing a move for a bat if its for more than a year…otherwise a good PH and another arm for the pen would be nice
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:21 pm
DS1 – it depends on if Garza signs an extension or not. If not then it will likely be someone like Minor for Garza. If he signs an extension then Braves would need to add a prospect or two. Spruill has been mentioned. Teams will likely try to pry away Bethancourt first for prospects. Minor still has a lot of value on the trade market – much more than on this blog
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:22 pm
I don’t think Jack Cust is playing in the majors this year………….
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:23 pm
tiger – I agree. Unless the Braves can pull a trade for Greinke or in a dream world Hamels where they sign an extension, getting a solid bat and a solid 8th inning guy would be just as big.
tiger297
June 19th, 2012
11:23 pm
how many innings does teheran have this year? going to suck if we start counting on him and then run out of innings in august
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:23 pm
team is too young as it is, they do not need another 22 year old like the Rev on the bench.
not a Cust fan at all, let him stay in the minors or wherever he is
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:26 pm
he isn’t, he’s tearing the cover off the ball in the Yankees AAA, had a lousy year in 2011 on a lousy Mariners team, but before that he was a great bench bat, I think he’d be worth a shot and wouldn’t cost us much, heck he can’t hit worse than Hinske or Francisco has
tiger297
June 19th, 2012
11:26 pm
he pitched 142 last year so what is it 20% increase so 170 and he has pitched 60 so 110 innings or about 18 starts…might make it 1/2 the year
The A Bomb
June 19th, 2012
11:28 pm
When I consistently compare Heyward to Willie McCovey — there you go. Ask Tex.
You all will see. This guy’s a monster about ready to explode.
Can’t speak for the MANIC team — but this guy’s getting his motor revved up.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:28 pm
Cust has a career OPS of .848 against righties , and some power, I’m just trying to think inside our limited payroll here folks
Trey
June 19th, 2012
11:29 pm
Especially from the younger folks on the blog who ain’t used to losing, nolie.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:29 pm
heck he can’t hit worse than Hinske or Francisco has…NickB
yeah that would be hard to do, still never liked him much. Dunn with a bit less pop
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:29 pm
Hamels would never sign an extension, he’s pitching for a Cliff Lee type deal with the Yankees
Bat Masterson
June 19th, 2012
11:29 pm
He pitched about 164 last year, tiger. He had some big league inngings.
Add 30 and he would be close to 200.
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:30 pm
nolie
Agreed on the Rev. He won’t be back unless we have an infield injury. Don’t know if we can afford a player that can’t play a little bit of defense (Cust).
I prefer 1 more bat and a bullpen arm.
tiger
WOW, your man Durbin has sure come through since the game I attended with you and yours!
David O'Brien
June 19th, 2012
11:31 pm
postgame utterances (QUOTAGE)
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/06/19/braves-quotes-after-tuesdays-win-over-yankees/
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:31 pm
problem with trying to get guys like Willingham or Youkliss is that they really are too good to be bench players, and I’d worry that Fredi would take playin time away from Heyward for them.
Plus both are butchers in the field. Bench bats are like relief pitchers, you never really know what you are gonna get one year to the next. Look at Hinske and Brooks Conrad, one year great, next year, worthless
tiger297
June 19th, 2012
11:31 pm
ds1 – i make no comment for fear of jinx
tiger297
June 19th, 2012
11:32 pm
when its sleepy time down south…
(damn this new job I have to drive into the office every day)
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
11:32 pm
Agree with those who think the bigger need is a bat or relief pitcher more than a starter, esp. since any starter worth getting will cost a bunch.
The A Bomb
June 19th, 2012
11:32 pm
As long as they try to pull the ball over the foul pole every at bat our ingenious field commander will love whatever player it is. No bunting, no strategy, just Mongo it over the foul pole.
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:32 pm
At some point later this season (and maybe not so late), Teheran will get a half a dozen starts to show whether he can stick in the bigs.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
June 19th, 2012
11:33 pm
I’m not convinced that Willingham is capable of being the same offensive player in the NL. As for Chase Headley, the guy is 28 and eligible for free agency until after the 2014 season. If traded he could be expensive, as in several players traded.
But no, our Braves are in no position to be trading any of their starters right now. Especially given that Beachy is likely done for the season, along with the question mark that is JJ. Throw in Minors erratic performances and there it is….to many questions, not enough answers.
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:35 pm
I’d love to see the Braves bring Brooks back onboard at the AAA level.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:35 pm
Here’s a deal for all of you to ponder:
Cubs get : Minor, Francisco,Zeke Spruill,Terdo and Luis Avilan
Braves get :Garza,Shawn Camp and Reed Johnson
Trey
June 19th, 2012
11:36 pm
Congratulations, tiger!!!!
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:37 pm
I am still a fan of Eduardo Nunez – would love to see him in LF for the Braves with Prado at 3B next year and when Chipper rests this year
IlliniBrave
June 19th, 2012
11:38 pm
@NickB: what about LaHair or Campana?
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:38 pm
Enter your comments here
richbrave
June 19th, 2012
11:39 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
It’s inaugural 2012 night at DANVILLE in high rookie APPALACHIAN League and the D-BRAVES but none of the pitchers are from the 2012 draft class. Four position players are however. BRAVES win 7-5 over ELIZABETHTON, TENNESSEE.
RHSP MAURICIO CABRERA [2.25 ERA] 4.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R/ER, 2 BB, 4 SO.
RHRP WILLIAMS PEREZ [W 1-0, 0.00 ERA] 2.0 IP, no-hits, 2 BB, 2 SO.
RHRP CHARLIE ROBERTSON [4.50 ERA] 2.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.
RHRP IGNACIO ‘Iggy’ GERONIMO [0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.
Lead-off 2B LEVI HYAMS [.333 BA] 1-3, 2 RBI [2], 2 SF [2], 1 SB [1]. 19th round 2012.
RF BLAKE BROWN [.200 BA] 1-5, 1 R, 1 HR [1], 1 RBI [1]. GOLDEN SOMBRERO! Ole’ 5th round 2012.
DH TRENTON MOSES [.500 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B [1], 1 RBI [1]. 26th round 2012.
SS ERIC GARCIA [.333 BA] 1-3, 1 BB, 2 SB [2], 1 E [1, fielding]. 20th round 2012.
C NICK DeSANTIAGO [.500 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 3B [1], 2 RBI [2]. 5th round 2011.
CF FELIX MARTE [.750 BA] 3-4, 2 R, 1 2B [1]. FA DSL 2008.
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:41 pm
if Jurrjens pitches well and there is any sort of trade market for him, he will be gone in a month. 5th starter would be fine with Medlen but again we would have to acquire a 8th inning righty relief pitcher. Teheran also would be a fine 5th starter and he also could be a valuable addition to the bullpen late in the year.
Of course the key to those being fine as #5 starters is for Delgado to pitch like a 3 and Minor to pitch like a 4.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:41 pm
Willingham has spent most of his career in the NL. he ain’t gonna keep hitting like he is right now anywhere, but his OPS+ numbers for all other years are about the same
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:42 pm
WAY too big and complicated NB
richbrave
June 19th, 2012
11:42 pm
More in the a.m. NYTOL!
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:42 pm
LaHair is not available but would look good in LF
brian
June 19th, 2012
11:43 pm
thanks for the updates richbrave – I also love their draft status/prospect status in the updates
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:43 pm
if JJ pitches well why would they trade him given all the pitching woes we have had? If he doesn’t pitch well he will have next to no trade value at all
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:44 pm
I really like Willingham a lot! Was really wishing we had enough cash over the winter to make him a decent offer.
At 7 million per, he’s well worth the contract.
And Headley is a good OBP guy and young.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:44 pm
Lahair’s problem is he’s a lefty and not a bench bat and someone like LA will give them more so they can start him at first instead of Loney.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:45 pm
nolie
yeah, just popping out ideas, it does give us a starter a reliever and a bench bat all in one though
stizz
June 19th, 2012
11:46 pm
OKC is letting the world down big time. Play your tails off against San Antonio only to choke it up in the Finals.
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:46 pm
IMO we do NOT need another lefty, in fact if Bourn leaves I hope they can find a righty to replace him
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:46 pm
DS1
Willingham wouldn’t be a bad pickup for 2013, but I see no place for a starting bat on our team unless you want to bench Chipper or Freeman…. and since we all know that isn’t happening, we are left with looking through the benches of the bottom half of teams
nolie
June 19th, 2012
11:47 pm
Willy on bench and spot starter rest of this year, starting LFer next two with Prado at third
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:48 pm
nolie
WHEN Bourn leaves I hope they can find ANYTHING to replace him! lol
I frankly have no idea what the CF plan for next year is. I ,personally, would try for Peter Borjous and his mighty defense, if he finally starts to hit , great, then we could try and sign an all bat mediocre glove for LF and not sweat it, seriously Bourjos is an even better fielder than Bourn
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:49 pm
NickB
I’m thinking that with all the games we have missed Chipper and Freeman this year, we could fit 1 more bat into the rotation. Besides, you know how much Fredi likes to rest guys.
But if we’re going to get him, it should have been 10 days ago before these AL games.
The A Bomb
June 19th, 2012
11:50 pm
No free agent of note would want to come to ATL. Trade route is all Braves have.
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:50 pm
NickB
I’m not going to worry about 2013 for another 6-8 months.
DS1
June 19th, 2012
11:51 pm
A Bomb
Only free agents we will see will probably be bench players or relief pitchers.
NickB
June 19th, 2012
11:51 pm
a bomb
a free agent will go to whoever offers him the best deal, it’s not like Atlanta is a cesspool or has super high taxes
The A Bomb
June 19th, 2012
11:54 pm
Right — I see a payroll cut despite all the $ off the books.
And I don’t see top free agents lining up to (1) play for a cheap organization and (2) a MANIC team and a manager who hasn’t really proven a damn thing at the big boy level. Oh yeah (3) Washington will spend and win.