Beachy has partial ligament tear, will see Dr. Andrews (UPDATED)

NEW YORK –Brandon Beachy has a partial tear of the ulnar collateral ligament in his pitching elbow, an injury that usually required ligament-transplant surgery and a rehabilitation period of 12-14 months.

Beachy will see Dr. James Andrews for a second opinion on Wednesday, after Braves orthopedic surgeon Xavier Duralde examined the the pitcher and an MRI of his right elbow on Monday.

“I guess my optimism was for nothing,” said manager Fredi Gonzalez, who had said Sunday and again Monday afternoon that he hoped Beachy had nothing worse than bone spurs and that he wouldn’t be sidelined for any extended period.

That notion was quashed when the report came in later Monday from Duralde, who examined Beachy late in the day after the doctor had completed several surgeries.

Even before the bad news came, Braves general manager Frank Wren had sounded as if he’d been down this road enough times with pitchers to know better than set his hopes high.

Beachy left his Saturday start in the fourth inning after feeling pain in the elbow when he threw a couple of curveballs in the dirt. He was pitching on three days’ extra rest after feeling what he said was mild elbow soreness after his previous start.

Beachy (5-5, 2.00 ERA) was placed on the 15-day disabled list Monday, and Jair Jurrjens will be recalled from Triple-A Gwinnett to fill in for the major league ERA leader in Friday’s series-opening start at Boston.

A torn is a serious but common injury among pitchers. It usually necessitates ligament-transplant surgery — aka “Tommy John” surgery — and a full year or more of rehab.

Gonzalez had said earlier Monday that his optimism was rooted in nothing more than his “glass half-full” nature.

Wren was asked whether he shared that optimism.

“Not necessarily,” the GM said before getting the report on Beach. “Until you get a firm idea, I think we just have to wait and see. These things, you kind of have a sense of it when they happen, what the likelihood is of it being serious. It’s kind of hard to be real optimistic.”

Beachy retired all 11 batters he faced before a fourth-inning walk against Chris Davis, whom he walked Davis on six pitches, including an 86 mph fastball that was an alarming 6 to 7 mph below his typical velocity.

The Braves had bumped him back when he’d reported some soreness following his previous outing. The team did not have him undergo an MRI at that time, apparently because Beachy characterized the soreness after the previous start as nothing more than the day-after soreness pitchers get sometimes during the season.

Beachy has had occasional soreness from bone spurs in the past.

“We have guys who have bone spurs for seven or eight years and they never give them any problem at all,” Wren said before the partial-ligament tear diagnosis was announced. “So it’s an indicator that the elbow has had some wear and tear, but it’s not an indicator that anything bad is going to happen immediately.”

201 comments Add your comment

@billsbravesfan

June 18th, 2012
7:00 pm

TUESDAYY??? Its only Monday!

MD Braves fan

June 18th, 2012
7:02 pm

So what bunker was Wren found in??

74bravesjersey

June 18th, 2012
7:04 pm

“waiting becomes too late”

bruce

June 18th, 2012
7:10 pm

Thanks for the update!

tvsportscaster

June 18th, 2012
7:16 pm

DOB, you;ve got your days mixed up. Today is Monday.

BravesfaninWis

June 18th, 2012
7:28 pm

Braves fans: “Hard to be real optimistic” waiting for this team to actually play consistent baseball.

LostCasue

June 18th, 2012
7:48 pm

One of those days, huh?

least of the east

June 18th, 2012
8:17 pm

very hard to be optimistic with a combo of Liberty Media, Wren and Fredi G.
only question is which of the three is the biggest problem. a tough call.

sounds like the Braves md is almost too busy to check Beachy. must have private practice on the side.

for Beachy’s sake, hope the damage is minimal. braves aren’t winning with or without him. lots of other problems besides his health.

BraveinMemphis

June 18th, 2012
8:53 pm

Wren is easily the biggest problem, followed by Liberty Media. I really wish Arthur Blank could buy the team.

BravesFanForever

June 18th, 2012
8:58 pm

UGH!!! Yeah, lack of funds is the big Braves killer. It’s rare when a team doesn’t lose at least one key player that a trade wouldn’t fix.

McCmann_AquaHoss

June 18th, 2012
9:08 pm

So does this mean Glavine’s credibility takes a shot? I doubt his kid still wants to learn Beachy’s “clean” delivery.

NitroTwinkie

June 18th, 2012
10:06 pm

DOB’s capable of predicting the future! Seems like he’d use that gift in another occupation over journalism…

Reality check

June 18th, 2012
10:07 pm

All team docs are physicians in private practice that happen to work with the team. 25 guys can’t keep them busy for a full year.

pcola braves fan

June 18th, 2012
10:11 pm

the way our team is getting injured maybe he can.

wolf

June 18th, 2012
10:41 pm

“Partial” ligament tear for Beachy. Seeing Doctor Andrews. TJ surgery almost certainly required. Question: IF your league-leading ERA pitcher says he has “elbow soreness,” why not do an MRI BEFORE you send him out to pitch again? Wouldn’t it be smart to know WHAT is wrong before putting the guy out there again? Yes, maybe the damage was already done before Saturday’s game, but maybe not. And with Freeman–why put the guy back in to play almost right after the injury to his finger and THEN have to sit him down for several more days because he was NOT ready? The Atlanta Braves medical team has GOT to be about the worst in baseball, consistently, year after year. Can’t they afford some competent doctors. When you have multimillion dollar players, get the best medical care for them, not some marginally competent semi-quacks.

NotARabbit

June 18th, 2012
10:53 pm

I know its june. But the light i see at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train..

Zac in Tempe

June 18th, 2012
10:55 pm

wolf, I get your thinking, but I wouldn’t have made a difference.

Largo

June 18th, 2012
11:00 pm

Just what the Braves needed to hear.

Oddibe McDowell

June 18th, 2012
11:01 pm

Did pitchers under Leo’s watch ever experience this many injuries? Blame Roger. Fire Fredi.

Ralph

June 18th, 2012
11:03 pm

This team is done, with or without Beachy, even Maddox, Smoltz and Glavin in their prime couldn.t help this bunch.

Keith

June 18th, 2012
11:07 pm

I’m not normally a knee-jerk kind of guy…but…

unless JJ can return himself to his early form of last year…then this team may be done as they are already inconsistent as it is.

slingblade

June 18th, 2012
11:08 pm

uuuuuuuummmmmmuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm. Tip your cap to Dr. Andrews as another one bites the dust. Tough luck Beachy. See you next season, uuuuuummmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm.

Keith

June 18th, 2012
11:08 pm

Might have just taken away our ace. :( not a good sign at all.

Ralph

June 18th, 2012
11:11 pm

Closest thing we have to an Ace is Delgado.

Ralph

June 18th, 2012
11:12 pm

Time for a Fire Sale!

Ralph

June 18th, 2012
11:14 pm

Isn’t it about time for the Quotes, I could use a good laugh about now.

JRW7

June 18th, 2012
11:16 pm

Turn out the lights, BRAVES 2012 season is over, will have to battle the PHILLIES for last place! This is so sad!

Ralph

June 18th, 2012
11:18 pm

Yep the quotes are out, I got my laugh, they were funny as hell, nite all.

The Citizen

June 18th, 2012
11:19 pm

Looks like the Braves can’t go one season without a pitcher needing TJ surgery.

CaliChopper

June 18th, 2012
11:27 pm

Huddy,
Moylan,
Medlen,
Vizciano in his first full big league spring training,
Beachy,

What’s the one constant for all of them? Rodger. Not sure Leo was all that great, he did have some pretty good talent to work with and not certain they didn’t make him and not vise versa. That being said, either somethings not being done with pitchers that needs to be, or somethings being done that harmful and whatever it is it needs to be changed

NickB

June 18th, 2012
11:30 pm

watching you tiddy babies try to blame somebody is amusing to me!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Pitchers get hurt on every team, it’s all because of sliders, cutters and how hard pitchers throw now (that and I think excessive weight lifting is to blame)
Maddux and Glavine didn’t get hurt cuz they didn’t throw hard, Smoltz was hurt a fair bit there for awhile….. and it wasn’t cuz Leo left.

Look, I hate Fredi and Liberty Media as much as anybody (I have always asserted that Wren is a good GM though and nobody can give me any evidence to the contrary, not when you take the limited budgets into account) but blaming pitcher arm injuries on the team is silly, it would make sense if it was Kimbrel and Venters from over use last season or something, but it’s Beachy. and it’s Vizcaino , guys have TJ surgery now, it’s so common, I’m surprised that anyone is surprised.

atm0623

June 18th, 2012
11:32 pm

Nothing gets truly fixed until Liberty sells the team. A new GM would work within the same budget as Wren does. Every other problem with the team is secondary to the one at the top. Ask Cubs and old-school Yankee fans, who put up with the Tribune Company and CBS, respectively, Team ownership by corporate media conglomerates simply does not work.

hoho

June 18th, 2012
11:37 pm

Sorry for Beachy, but he couldn’t have pitched everyday for the floundering Braves anyway. And I fully agree with wolf: the handling of Beachy’s initial concern over his arm soreness was completely botched by the team’s medical staff.

CaliChopper

June 18th, 2012
11:40 pm

Really? Who hired Fredi? Nuff said

Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow

June 18th, 2012
11:40 pm

Told ya! The man brings nothing but bad karma.

Alaska Braves Fan

June 18th, 2012
11:45 pm

The approach to Beachy’s elbow problem was appropriate. If a ligament is torn, even slightly, it will not heal and be OK for pitching no matter how long it’s rested. Instead, when the pitcher goes back out to the mound, it soon will be torn enough to require surgery. It may sound harsh, but as soon as that ligament began to deteriorate, Beachy was surgery bound. In fact, for both this young man and for the team, the sooner he has the elbow repaired, the better. It hurts to see him out for the next 12 or 14 months, but we have seen many pitchers go through this and come out as good as new. John Smoltz was one of many.

I wish Beachy the best of surgeries and the best of recoveries. Next June he’ll be back on the mound and doing well.

ABF

Alaska Braves Fan

June 18th, 2012
11:48 pm

I would absolutely LOVE to see some of you chicken-littles out there trying to manage a big-league baseball team. All your criticisms of FG would soon be forgotten amidst the belly-laughs we all were having at your ignorant efforts.

ABF

Larry

June 18th, 2012
11:50 pm

A good young man with a bright future, sorry that he will miss a good year getting over it but he should have a lot of good years to follow.

Otis Nixon's Hellbent Redemption

June 19th, 2012
12:08 am

We need to get Ryan Dempster from the Cubs

hdhd

June 19th, 2012
12:10 am

Elbow soreness=James Andrews=Tommy John surgery. Seriously, I even knew it was coming.

taylor

June 19th, 2012
12:15 am

Otis, Demptster is on the DL as well.

taylor

June 19th, 2012
12:16 am

Wake Up Call

June 19th, 2012
12:16 am

Sorry, but Liberty Media selling the team will NOT solve any problems. At least not for the next 25 yrs.
yes, TWENTY-FIVER YEARS!

The Braves ownership group signed the worst television contract in the history of MLB. Just look at this chart:
http://media-cache6.pinterest.com/upload/84864774198351680_eKhlLtIs_c.jpg
Atlanta has the 2nd largest group of TV subscribers in the East, but their contract generates less than 20% of the revenue per subscriber that the average of all other teams in their region make.
The Braves will be broke for a very long time regardless of who owns the team.
Stunningly horrible deal for the team.

this quote just about sums it up:
– “When striking up long term, fixed term, deals, you look at where the risk is going if the deal turns out bad. The Braves took almost 100% of that risk, with no way to mitigate it, for a really, really long time. Then, on top of that, the market for sports shifted away from gate revenues to TV revenues, and that shift doesn’t look like its going to reverse any time soon. Especially not in an area where the fan base is so spread out geographically and transportation costs (ie gas) continue to rise.”

wayn-o

June 19th, 2012
12:17 am

We were so pitcher rich… Hanson of all guys seems to be the only reliable one. Even with keeping all our pitching prospects we still don’t have a decent starting staff.

Hudson – nagging injuries
Jurrjens – forgetting how to pitch
Minor & Delgado – massive inconsistency
Medlin – debacle because the pen has fallen apart

Sorry Chipper, but the offense isn’t good enough to carry this team to any sort of swan song.
Fire Sale.

Gene

June 19th, 2012
12:18 am

I was sure that Ted Turner was using the Braves as a tax writeoff in the 1980’s, and he was perfectly happy for them to be the jokes of the NL. Liberty Media appears to be doing the same. Fredi and Wren must go for this team to return to playing motivated baseball, and that is going to take a number of years. Prado, Bourn, and Uggla would be better off elsewhere.

Who Me?

June 19th, 2012
12:26 am

Too much Flexaril and Demeral in the clubhouse, this over-the-hill patchwork team should seriously get consideration for major overhaul. Jettison Chipper/McCann sometime in the coming 4 weeks, move Ross into starting role and bring Gattis up for backup/education purposes. Finish the season out in the middle of the pack, miss the playoffs and seriouisly re-tool. Get some more stud pitching by trading McCann now instead of the end of the season. With Chipper and Bourn gone you’ll have bucks to use for staff augmentation – find some guys that flat out wear the ball out and go sign ‘em.

Hopeful

June 19th, 2012
12:35 am

NickB

June 19th, 2012
12:55 am

Ok, number one YOU CAN’T TRADE CHIPPER!!! He has 10/5 rights and can reject any trade, and you don’t release a start player in his retirement year. That’s a stupid ,video game selfish thing to say.

I say, bring up JJ and hope he can regain some sort of value and then move him, then bring up Teheran and let the kids learn at the big league level.

NickB

June 19th, 2012
12:56 am

@PB ORR

I think that sliders and cutters and the modern love of 95+ fastballs has done it. (I’m also convinced the 5 man rotation doesn’t help)

Steve

June 19th, 2012
12:56 am

Don’t blame Roger for this. Look, I am not sure he is a great pitching coach, or even a good one .. but comparing him to Leo on this is outrageous.

The Braves under Leo continually drafted change-up pitchers, which is not tough on the arm. Most of the guys going down cann throw a change, but most of them throw breaking pitches much more often than the likes of Glavine and Maddux.

And oh .. by the way .. under Leo, here is a partial list of pitchers with arm problems.

Smoltz – twice
Avery
Mercker
Schmidt – though his hit the year after he left the teaching principles were there already
Rocker
Byrd
Remlinger
Ligtenburg
Seanez

That’s just hitting the big names and covering 2000 to 2005 on the lesser. If I went all the way back in his reign who knows how many there would be.

It’s not Roger. It’s not Leo. It’s the game and in my opinion it’s Freddi G and Bobby C. Under these two managers, pitchers know they are expected to go 6 innings and they go out and overthrow half their pitches and put FAR too much torque on their arms. It’s the system the Braves coach. They don’t teach pitchers to to go at 90% because the entire game has changed.

All these bloated old pitchers don’t seem to understand how much things have changed. Even since Glavine it has changed. Six and seven man bullpens are becoming the norm with starters being gassed after six because they are coached to get thru six. Since many teams are following this pattern it means you can’t pitch at 90% until in danger like old schoolers did. You have to go all out because you will be behind if you give up more than 2 runs thru six (3 thru 6 means a 4.50 ERA by the way).

It is the philosophy that the steroid age brought on. The only way to keep ERA’s low was to go all-out for a shorter stint. You have to make eveyr pitch count. This is why steroids and the offensive boom were so bad for baseball as a whole. It completely changed the way pitching coaches and managers have to manage. It’s why you see so few complete games and shutouts.

Sutton doesn’t get it. Glavine has moments where the lightbulb goes off. And quite frankly, most old school fans on these boards don’t get it.

MikeY

June 19th, 2012
1:08 am

Just as a precaution, I think the Braves should do an MRI on every pitcher’s elbow every year at spring training. Just as a precaution, and just to have a baseline.

chem

June 19th, 2012
1:17 am

There’s no reason to take an MRI if a person is healthy. It’s a waste of time/resources. and there’s no such thing as a “baseline” MRI. Either there’s structural damage or not.

BRANCHY BEACHDON

June 19th, 2012
1:23 am

THE SEASON IT’S NOT OVER YET….. the braves still have 3 1/2 months for comeback and win a playoff spot …. yes Beachy was the MLB era leader for 2 months or something but with this offense he only won 5 games and lost other 5 … soooo …

WE NEED ANOTHER BAT AND ONE OR MAYBE TWO RELIEVERS

Sure Jurrjens or Medlen or whatever who gonna take the spot in braves rotation for Beachy could win the games ONLY with OTHER BAT AND OTHER GOOD ARM IN THE PEN….

so MR WREN MOVE THE LAZY ASS AND LOOK FOR HELP IN THE TRADE MARKET

MR FRREN WANK

June 19th, 2012
1:39 am

THERE IT IS MY NEXT MOVES FANS :

BRAVES SEND Cory Gearrin and Cash considerations TO THE DBACKS for Joe Saunders
BRAVES SEND Todd Redmond,Joe Terdoslavich and player to be named TO THE PADRES for Carlos Quentin and cash…
BRAVES SEND DOWN Jack Wilson and Eric Hinske to AAA and Recall Tyler Pastornicky and Jose Constanza..
BRAVES call up Jair Jurrjens from Gwinnett and optioned MIKE MINOR to AAA
BRAVES TRADE JUAN FRANCISCO to A’s in exchange for Grant Balfour
NEW ROTATION : HUDSON HANSON SAUNDERS JURRJENS DELGADO
NEW BULLPEN: MARTINEZ MEDLEN DURBIN BALFOUR O’FLAHERTY VENTERS KIMBREL
LINEUP: BOURN PRADO QUENTIN UGGLA MCCANN JONES FREEMAN SIMMONS
BENCH: ROSS HEYWARD DIAZ CONSTANZA PASTORNICKY

LINEUP VS LH >> DIAZ LF PRADO 3B QUENTIN RF JONES BENCH
LINEUP VS RH>> PRADO LF QUENTIN RF JONES 3B
QUENTIN OR PRADO DAYOFF : HEYWARD RF AND QUENTIN LF or PRADO LF J-HEY RF

FIRST PINCH HITTER: PASTORNICKY
CLOSE AND LATE SITUATIONS PINCH HITTER: HEYWARD VS RH DIAZ VS LH
PINCH RUNNER : CONSTANZA and sometimes HEWYARD

THE BRAVES FIRE MANAGER FREDI GONZALEZ AND REPLACE HIM WITH THE BULLPEN COACH EDDIE PEREZ

THE BRAVES HIRE FREDI GONZALEZ IN CLEAN-SPIKES JOB

MR METS GM

June 19th, 2012
1:43 am

THE METS ANNOUNCES THE NEXT DEAL:

THE BRAVES SEND JUAN FRANCISCO, JACK WILSON, BRIAN SNITKER AND TERRY PENDLETON TO THE METS FOR R.A. DICKEY , DAVID WRIGHT AND DANIEL MURPHY

Steve From Dalton

June 19th, 2012
2:28 am

Tommy John should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Without him taking a risk, many a ballplayer would never pitch agian.

jeffrey d

June 19th, 2012
2:58 am

Geeze, guys…way to hold it together.

NickB

June 19th, 2012
4:22 am

@ Mr Frren Wrank

that is the dumbest thing I have seen in awhile!!

Number one, we don’t want Joe Friggin Saunders

Number 2, it will take more than a career AAA guy and Terdo to get Quentin, it will take one of Minor or Delgado and a low level guy to get him

Number 3, Quentin’s bat may be an improvement over Heyward right now, but his butchery in the field would send that improvement into the toilet, Heyward is a more valuable player than Quentin, and not to mention Quentin has been on the DL for extended periods nearly every season, no thank you

Number 4: Billy Beane would not take Francisco for Balfour…. that’s silly

Number 5: you can’t “send down” Hinske and Wilson to AAA you have to DFA them and they can say no, then we pay their salaries as they go play somewhere else, so no, you might could move Hinske to an AL team somewhere, you just cut Wilson

Number 6: what makes you think JJ is going to be any better than Minor has been?

Chipper is a slut

June 19th, 2012
4:38 am

Happy Hooters

Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow

June 19th, 2012
5:54 am

“I would absolutely LOVE to see some of you chicken-littles out there trying to manage a big-league baseball team. All your criticisms of FG would soon be forgotten amidst the belly-laughs we all were having at your ignorant efforts.”

You brag about those division title flags in the outfield too, I bet.

WTF

June 19th, 2012
6:05 am

Well, that tears it.

Packer Ed

June 19th, 2012
6:09 am

If we are not sellers at the trade dealine we should be.

Most of all we should be selling the franchise to a new owner who has 2 things:

1. strongest desire to win it all
2. American cash

Gritz

June 19th, 2012
6:17 am

This is the first year of my life that I decided before the season started that I wasn’t going to watch or attend any Braves games. When I saw the way the organization basically stood pat over the winter I knew that there weren’t really seriously dedicated to improving this team. If the owners and front office don’t really care why should I?

Cap: Where's My Tip

June 19th, 2012
6:47 am

eh, not surprising. A+B=C (elbow, soreness, Tommy John).

Just unfortunate for Beachy considering the good start he was having. I guess that means the Braves will be getting a top of the line starting pitcher before next year’s trade deadline is over (at least that’s how I choose to look at them possibly getting Beachy back middle of next season)

MikeY

June 19th, 2012
6:47 am

@chem, my point is that if their is some damage, there are treatments that do not require surgery. So it may be possible to catch issues early, rather than have damage continue to build up.

Fire Roger and Frank and Freddie

June 19th, 2012
6:50 am

I don’t remember us having this many or even close to this many bad arm injuries when LEO was our pitching coach. Never have liked Roger M. His arm conditioning is way different that Leo’s was.

I hold Roger responsible for all our pitchers injuries. Think about all that have required T John surgery. But Fran Wren has no clue…….

Hmmmm

June 19th, 2012
6:54 am

“I would absolutely LOVE to see some of you chicken-littles out there trying to manage a big-league baseball team. All your criticisms of FG would soon be forgotten amidst the belly-laughs we all were having at your ignorant efforts”

these statements are always hilarious, there’s zero logic in them. Of course most people are going to look foolish, you’re putting a inexperienced person up against someone who at least has some managing experience! Why not make it fair game and let a … “chicken-little” was it? get some managing experience first like FG was able to do and then let them manage a big league baseball team and see what happens?

bad brad

June 19th, 2012
7:05 am

And when he comes back straight to middle relief…a la Kris Medlen. Explanation for that one is there werer younger better arms. When Medlen went down Braves had won 13 of his 14 starts. But now they messed up his head. Way to go Freddi G.

tweet

June 19th, 2012
7:26 am

Once Frediot told everyone there was no reason to be concerned for Beach, you knew it was over

That man has NO CLUE

fsubravo

June 19th, 2012
7:29 am

this team will lose 90-100 games this season…the best player is now out for a year plus..not good

NickGranite

June 19th, 2012
7:35 am

@Wakeupcall. Wow. I had heard our TV contract was bad but 4-6 times LESS per subscriber than the other teams. Sheesh. Sounds like the federal government negotiated that deal instead of a private business entity. Thanks for the graph.

GONNA MISS CHIP

June 19th, 2012
7:37 am

man, i hope we dont end up sellers.

Larry A

June 19th, 2012
7:38 am

So what is wrong with the Braves pitching regimen?? We are running about two pitchers a year needed ligament replacement – something is a miss here…

urban redneck

June 19th, 2012
7:39 am

why is tommy john surgery so much more prevalent than it was a decade ago? medlen, vizcaino and beachy in about 18-20 months or so.

now a lot of our eggs are in the JJ basket (depending on the extent of teheran’s injury). insert f-bomb here. go bravos.

SMOLTZ 29

June 19th, 2012
7:39 am

SEASON………..OVER

SMOLTZ 29

June 19th, 2012
7:40 am

McDowell and Fredi have to get on the next express train out of town! MERCY

Bravefan10

June 19th, 2012
7:41 am

Braves – will you bring Beachy back and put him in the bullpen like you Medlen? Great decision. P.S. Braves need a coach.

dean

June 19th, 2012
7:49 am

Ugh. Again, this just sucks.

alex

June 19th, 2012
7:50 am

Braves doc,s are extremely good as an Andrews resident does the actual surgery.
After the last weeks hitting exhibition and fg’s managerial skills indicate: put a fork in this team and avoid the $6 hot dogs—–

Ebenezer Snerdberg

June 19th, 2012
7:50 am

It just keeps gettin’ better an’ better!

Fire Havana Fats!

BravesfaninWis

June 19th, 2012
7:56 am

It is what it is. Feel bad for Beachy, but its not like he is going to help this train wreck of a team. Better that he gets himself right. I am at the point that I am done with this team this year. I don’t watch sports to watch my favorite team choke game after game, and year after year. I am not supporting Fredi Gonzalez any longer, I am not supporting Frank Wren any longer, and if the Braves don’t move in a completely different direction next season, I am taking a full year off next year. Why support a team when you know they won’t do anything? They should get in return what they give us, nothing.

mark

June 19th, 2012
7:57 am

Bring up the kids and get them some big league experience. Stop fooling ourselves. We are going nowhere fast this year.

bravesgrl4life

June 19th, 2012
8:00 am

Take care, Beachy. Will miss seeing you on the mound every 5 days. But, I’ve got your pic as my screen photo on my laptop, so I’ll get through.

Homer the Brave

June 19th, 2012
8:01 am

We need a starting pitcher who can eat up some innings. I hear that Livan Hernandez is a free agent. Oh wait.

steve

June 19th, 2012
8:05 am

Without a big trade for a top tier starter this team’s season is over.

Noah Webster, Jr.

June 19th, 2012
8:11 am

“Beachy retired all 11 batters he faced before a fourth-inning walk against Chris Davis, whom he walked Davis on six pitches, including an 86 mph fastball that was an alarming 6 to 7 mph below his typical velocity.”

My goodness, dear readers. Someone set off a grammar grenade in that sentence!

BravesFan

June 19th, 2012
8:18 am

Negative Nancey’s post your comments here:
- How many idiots out there believe this is all Fredi G and Bobby C’s fault? Half of you.
- Bummer on Beachy. He has such a smooth easy delivery, wouldn’t have seen this coming with him.
- I blame all the TJ injury’s on cutters and sliders. They are arm killers.

WeBurn

June 19th, 2012
8:22 am

WHY did we pitch Beachy on three days rest in his last start??????????? Makes NOOOO sense!!! Someone needs to lose their job over this.

Mary-Lu

June 19th, 2012
8:25 am

Goodbye to the hottest guy on the team! I will miss you Beachy! Best wishes for a successful surgery and rehab!

BravesFan

June 19th, 2012
8:25 am

@WeBurn – it was 7 days rest.

usnavyvolfaninva

June 19th, 2012
8:25 am

And the good news just keeps on coming! Man, hope for the best for Beachy.

Disbott3000

June 19th, 2012
8:27 am

You’re all crazy. If anyone is a problem, it is Liberty Media. Sure, they don’t stick us with a rock-bottom payroll, but they also don’t give us nearly enough payroll to compete with the big boys either. Give Wren another 30 to 50 million to play with and I bet he could look a lot smarter. I do have my reservations about Gonzalez after last years collapse and our streakiness this year, but I don’t think you can make a full analysis this soon, especially considering the myriad injuries that he has managed through so far.

The Braves are going to miss Beachy for sure. We’ll all be praying for a quick recovery, Brandon.

Oh, and guys, we’re not out of it yet, so stop calling for this to be a youth movement education season, ok? Maybe JJ has figured it out up in Gwinnett. Maybe Medlen will finally get his chance to pitch in the rotation and prove he deserves to be there. It’s way to early to fold the tents just yet.

Tbyrd

June 19th, 2012
8:31 am

Hate to see a guy like Beachy go down with such a serious injury……best wishes for a quick recovery. Maybe this is a chance to see what Medlin has to offer as a member of the rotation.
Wow….who would have thought at the beginning of the season we would have all this turmoil on our pitching staff…..my biggest worry back then was when was Moylan coming back?
Hang in there Braves…..keep fighting!

Rick

June 19th, 2012
8:34 am

WeBurn, what are you talking about? They gave Beachy extra days rest before his last start.

Wes

June 19th, 2012
8:34 am

Well…..at least we’ll have a good draft pick next year.

A.S.

June 19th, 2012
8:39 am

Fredi is clueless. If you haven’t realized it by now then you straight up dont understand baseball. He runs his mouth and is wrong 9 out of 10 times. I’m sick of him. He has been the manager for about 1.5 years and has completely ruined this team. From poorly managing Freddie Freeman and his injury to this. Time to get rid of him!

gcs

June 19th, 2012
8:41 am

Season: over

Screwball

June 19th, 2012
8:42 am

Bourn for prospects & cash looks more likely today.

Before we give Wren a pat on the old back, remember, he said we didn’t need to make any changes, just get everybody healthy and forget the great collapse. That wasn’t a plan, that was a bankrupt hope.

Fredi and Wren cannot survive a (more likely minus Beachy) 4th place finish.

Blaze

June 19th, 2012
8:44 am

At Steve………DON’T PANIC……our young starting pitchers still have a ton of UPSIDE! Smoltz in 1991 went 12-2 after the All-Star break. This could be happening now. We have Delgado and Minor who could still turn out to be solid starters. Please don’t trade either one for Dempster. I’d love to have Dempster; however, you would have to sign him before I’d trade for him. Beachy was my favorite and this certainly is a big blow but injuries can be a positive for somebody else to bloom as a young gun! Go Braves!

Blaze

June 19th, 2012
8:48 am

We need to utilize our assets. Let’s get Smoltzie to offer advice to Delgado and let’s get Glavine to offer advice to Minor. Why not? These two guys are proven winners and our pitching coach does show me that he could use some help.

Add your comment