AL East gantlet continues with Baltimore Orioles
(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)
Update: Braves have designated Livan Hernandez for assignment and recalled Kris Medlen from Triple-A Gwinnett.
The 15-straight-game gantlet through the AL East continues. The Braves are 2-4 in those games so far, against the Blue Jays and Yankees, and tonight come the Baltimore Orioles. It’s the middle series of the five the Braves are playing against arguably the toughest division in baseball and it’s pretty important, when you consider after three games with Baltimore this weekend, the Braves hit the road for series against the Yankees and Red Sox.
The Orioles enter the weekend series only one-half game out of first place in that very tough division, behind the Yankees. These are more like Cal Ripken’s Orioles of the late 1990s than the teams of recent years, whom the Braves won five straight series against at Turner Field, while going 11-4.
Adam Jones has been doing a lot of this in 2012
These Orioles have got a lot of pop (they’re tied for second in the majors with 89 homers) and they’ve got a good bullpen (their bullpen ERA of 2.41 is best in baseball, their 14 wins second-best).
Center fielder Adam Jones, who was mentioned in trade rumors with the Braves last season, is having a great season, hitting .306 with 18 homers, 39 RBIs, 12 doubles, and nine steals. Not only are the Orioles glad they didn’t trade him last year, they’ve loved him up for the next six signing him to an $85.5 million extension.
The Orioles are only 11th in the American League in starters’ ERA at 4.65. And just when it looked like the Orioles might finally be giving in to some of those weaknesses in their rotation and might come back down to earth a little bit, they won two of three in Boston and went 5-1 in a homestand against the Phillies and Pirates.
Frankly, it sounds like they’re winning with a lot of mojo right now, like they’ve got something special working. Take these little nuggets from our notes group and Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun:
Thursday night, the Orioles completed a sweep over the Pirates with five RBIs from Steve Pearce, the former underachieving Pirate who made his way to Baltimore after short stints with the Twins and Yankees this spring.
Wednesday night against the Pirates, Jake Arrieta, who had a 6.32 ERA and just been sent to the bullpen, gave up one run in seven innings a spot start for Brian Matusz, tonight’s starter vs. the Braves, who got pushed back after bunting a ball off his nose during batting practice (See, it’s not as easy as it looks, is it, American League pitchers?).
And on Sunday Steve Tolleson hit a three-run homer off Cliff Lee to tie the game against the Phillies and got optioned the next day. (He has since returned to the roster.)
Some need-to-know stuff about the Orioles: veteran second baseman Brian Roberts returned to the Os lineup after 13 months out with concussion problems on Tuesday night and promptly got three hits in his emotional return. Nick Markakis is still on the DL following wrist surgery.
Hanson vs. AL East
Ever had a good stat just kind of sneak up on you? Like “oh yeah!” That was me this week with this one from Tommy Hanson. Tonight’s starter for the Braves is 6-0 is six career starts against teams from the A.L. East.
It kind of jogs the memory doesn’t it? Remember in 2009 after he first got called up when he pitched so well in back-to-back games against the Yankees and Red Sox? I looked back over those games and realized, oh yeah, Hanson beat the Orioles in Baltimore for his first major league win too, in his second major league start.
Looking back, not only was he 6-0, he had a 1.38 ERA in those starts, allowing no more than two earned runs. Those wins over the Yankees and Red Sox were part of a 26-inning scoreless streak he had going while becoming the first NL rookie to beat the Yankees and Red Sox in back-to-back starts.
A 22-year-old Hanson beating the Yankees
Here’s a look at those six starts:
(W) at Baltimore, June 12, 2009: Braves won 7-2
5 2/3 innings, nine hits, two earned runs, five walks, five strikeouts
(W) vs. NY Yankees, June 23, 2009: Braves win 4-0,
5 1/3 innings, four hits, no runs, five walks, four strikeouts
(W) vs. Red Sox on June 28, 2009: Braves win 2-1
6 innings, two hits, no runs, two walks, two strikeouts
(W) vs. Rays on June 16, 2010: Braves win 6-2
7 innings, three hits, no runs, one walk, six strikeouts
(W) vs. Rays on May 18, 2012: Braves win 5-3
7 innings, six hits, two earned runs, two walks, three strikeouts
(W) vs. Toronto on June 9, 2012 (Saturday): Braves win 5-2
8 innings, five hits, two earned runs, one walk, four strikeouts
Eye on Medlen
We should get some more insight into the Braves plans with Kris Medlen today. If he’s going to return to the bullpen, the Braves could recall him today and send Anthony Varvaro back down, since he last started for Gwinnett on Tuesday night.
Eric O’Flaherty was planning to throw a bullpen today to test out his elbow and figured a return Saturday was most likely.
With all the stories about Matt Cain and his perfect game, and the five no-hitters thrown in baseball already this season, I came across this factoid from Sports Illustrated’s Tom Verducci. He was talking about Cain’s 14 strikeouts against the Astros on Wednesday night matching Sandy Koufax’s 14 strikeouts in his 1965 perfect game, and the debate as to whether that makes it the best pitched game of all-time.
Verducci dug up this: “Ken Holtzman of the Chicago Cubs may have thrown one of the most impressive no-hitters ever, strikeouts be damned — literally. Holtzman no-hit the Braves on Aug. 19, 1969 at Wrigley Field without striking out a single batter. The ball was put in play 27 times — 15 times in the air and 12 times on the ground — and 27 times an out was recorded. It was done once before, by Sam Jones in 1923, and never again. Let’s see one of today’s pitchers pull off that trick.”
Love it. You talk about being democratic….Our congrats to Gregor Blanco and Melky Cabrera, two former Braves who played a big hand in Cain’s perfection with great catches in the outfield, especially Blanco’s. Wow. Great moment for him.
OK lineup and more from the ballpark this afternoon.
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TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:01 pm
1st… lemme read the story
Venice Jim
June 15th, 2012
2:01 pm
Thanks, Carroll!
JoshTown
June 15th, 2012
2:02 pm
Enter your comments hereForget all that Yankees stuff. Time to move on and take it to Baltimore. Go Braves!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:02 pm
Hanson 6-0? I call a win tonight, on our way to a killing of the Birds…
cricket
June 15th, 2012
2:04 pm
Oreos own us
braves sweep, bank on it
George
June 15th, 2012
2:05 pm
Bay Area Steve
June 15th, 2012
1:59 pm
repost so more folks can read it
*****************************Bay Area Steve
I think everybody should re-post their stuff. Let’s all do it. Every fifteen minutes, just give us a copy-and-paste. You know, so more folks can read it.
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Steve
It was so good I just could not help reposting.
Powder Blue
June 15th, 2012
2:06 pm
I love me some Camden Yards.
cricket
June 15th, 2012
2:07 pm
Efrim would be interested in this –
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/one-top-30-mlb-prospects-didn-t-drafted-210914558.html
ncscoots
June 15th, 2012
2:07 pm
they won two of three in Boston and went 5-1 in a homestand against the Phillies and Pirates.
At this point, I’d say the Orioles are stepping up in class for this series.
cricket
June 15th, 2012
2:09 pm
aren’t braves at turner field?
B_F 54
June 15th, 2012
2:09 pm
Thanks Carroll we need bmfT tonight
Tomahawkin
June 15th, 2012
2:09 pm
Must Win Series This weekend before heading into the Rotten Apple and the Fens…Our schedule this Month has been Brutal…Gotta finish with a .500 record for the Month of June or Else!
George
June 15th, 2012
2:10 pm
The game is in ATL.
Hubert
June 15th, 2012
2:11 pm
In all honesty, why is it anyone’s business that Chipper and his wife split up? I’ve seen it all over the paper. Is it necessary for that to be publicized in the newspaper?
B_F 54
June 15th, 2012
2:13 pm
Braves beat ooooooooooooooooo’s then jump on those yanks and sox we can do eeeeit
Tomahawkin
June 15th, 2012
2:13 pm
Anyone Going to the games this weekend…?
I’d go tomorrow but they chose Garbage B.O.B. for the postgame concert…Yuck!
The Truth....
June 15th, 2012
2:15 pm
Its time for Liberty to step up and put a better team on the field….Its simple…You get what you pay for. That’s just the way it is….Sign cheap players that is just what you get…you can’t expect to win championships on the cheap!
Tomahawkin
June 15th, 2012
2:15 pm
Hubert
June 15th, 2012
2:11 pm
“In all honesty, why is it anyone’s business that Chipper and his wife split up? I’ve seen it all over the paper. Is it necessary for that to be publicized in the newspaper?”
Yes, with sites like TMZ around, Any off-field issues with anyone high in Society will be public information, Thats just the way it is….
Seriesly with the money and Fame Chipper has, you don’t get married! let alone twice!
Arkansas Transplant
June 15th, 2012
2:15 pm
Chipper’s not having much marriage luck.
gotigers72
June 15th, 2012
2:18 pm
Actually Carroll, the Braves are 4-5 against the AL East this year. They were 2-1 against the Rays in St. Pete back in May.
dean
June 15th, 2012
2:19 pm
I talked to Francisco, Rick Camp, Knucksie and more (I almost called out the Sullivan poser but didn’t want to cause a scene on the field) ….but Carroll wouldn’t even say “Hi” last Saturday. My heart was crushed.
It must have been her laser-like focus. Yeah, that’s what it was!
So which team shows up tonight? Jekyll or Hyde? You gotta believe that Tommy is thinking he can’t give up more than 2 or he’s doomed. Go Braves!
Runner-
June 15th, 2012
2:21 pm
Remember when we could have traded Jair and one of our so called “pitching” prospects for Adam Jones? Yea, should have done that deal, dude is on a tear!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
YES!!!!! There is a god. What we’ve all been waiting for.
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Livan Hernandez has been designated for assignment and Kris Medlen has been recalled from Gwinnett. Medlen will be in uniform tonight.
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
Livan’s days are done.
Del
June 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
I sure hope that our mgr hasn’t lost his team because of ongoing decisions he has made that backfired. If he has we are in for a long long season unless Wren does some quick hiring..
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
cricket, interesting article. Thanks for posting.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
Remember when we could have traded Jair and one of our so called “pitching” prospects for Adam Jones?
I thought it was Jair and Prado…
anyways, Livan gone, just as he’s arriving to the park I bet… sucks. Anyway, Medlen gets sent down to prepare to start, and then comes back to do his old job….
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:26 pm
Makes sense. Livan is just not a major leaguer anymore, imo. Too hittable.
Rick
June 15th, 2012
2:27 pm
Runner, if I recall correctly they wanted Jurrjens, Prado, and two pitching prospects. I wouldn’t have done that either, and probably still wouldn’t given Prado’s year so far and our inconsistent SP.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:28 pm
Livan is too hittable. I throw faster than him lol. But the FO must be a little sheepish sending Meds back to doing what he already was. I guess Minor/Delgado are safe for now though. And to say I never understood this signing was an understatement. It was useless.
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:28 pm
Kimbrel, Venters, EOF, Medlen, Martinez, Durbin, Varvaro. Room for one more pen arm addition at the daedline. Durbin has exceeded expectations, I
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:28 pm
Listen…earlier in the year, it was stated that Medlen was more needed in the bullpen. Then, things changed, and it was pretty clear the Braves needed help in the rotation. Well, things have changed again as the rotation looks improved and the bullpen weakened. You can say it was a waste now to send Medlen down, but it makes us look a whole lot smarter to have the benefit of hindsight.
It’s a tough job these guys have in the front office.
Chop Chop
June 15th, 2012
2:30 pm
Livan had never been a reliever before. He sucks at it. Someone else will sign him and use him as a fifth starter. He will, of course, suck, but he won’t suck as much as he did as a reliever.
Boyd
June 15th, 2012
2:30 pm
Surely the Braves were paying Medlen a major league salary while this stupid experiment was going on.
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:31 pm
It wasn’t an experiment, Boyd. It was an exercise they were doing out of need. It just so happens that need shifted during the process.
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:31 pm
Sigh. I feel bad for Wren. Minor looked so bad, it made sense to get Medlen ready to start. Now, they just lost 3-4 weeks of him in the pen.
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
That was not an easy decision, at all really. I would of sent Medlen down too. Teheran is young, still working on things(breaking ball) and Jurrjens jas been terrible, even in Triple-A.
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
No way around it…the Medlen “plan” looks like it backfired. But you just have to move on. The Braves are still in great position…they need to survive this brutal AL East run, then get on a summer tear. I believe the pitching is coming together.
cricket
June 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
Livan Hernandez has been designated for assignment
this weakens our RH hitting bench
Braves Fan in Maine
June 15th, 2012
2:34 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan—- where did you see that??
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:34 pm
Brian: I can understand your POV, but when you say we NEED Medlen in the bullpen, I’d figure that you would keep him there. We have other options for SP. Instead, they lose KM for 3 weeks, and after 2 good starts by Delgado/Minor, they send him back to his old job. I know they have a tough job, but geez, this is a little weird.
Tomahawkin
June 15th, 2012
2:34 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
“YES!!!!! There is a god. What we’ve all been waiting for.”
Livan Hernandez has been designated for assignment and Kris Medlen has been recalled from Gwinnett. Medlen will be in uniform tonight.”
YES! Livan Just got Took out to The Pasture! Jack Wilson should be next he is a waste of a bench spot
Boyd
June 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
Brian, ask Medlen how he feels about this and I doubt he is a happy camper.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan—- where did you see that??
See what, the Livan DFA or the Adam Jones rumors?
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
Boyd, I believe Medlen just wants what is best for the team and will do as he’s asked. No prima donna there.
Bay Area Steve
June 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
“Now, they just lost 3-4 weeks of him in the pen.”
I don’t know this’ll be true.
Hanson’s had discomfort. Beachy’s had discomfort. Minor’s had suckage. A spot-starter may be needed, and instead of a pen-game, we’ll have a guy who can go five. If only for a while.
Tomahawkin
June 15th, 2012
2:36 pm
Livan didn’t have the stuff to get a strikeout when needed in the late innings…Glad that era is over
We Need Moylan back Badly!
cricket
June 15th, 2012
2:36 pm
Kirk Gibson didn’t go to his son’s HS graduation.
‘You’re supposed to graduate,” Gibson said. ”His mom and the rest of the family will be there. He’s coming to see me next week.”
I love this comment on that from someone –
My dad did this stuff to me regularly. I didn’t attend his funeral. You’re supposed to die.
Braves Fan in Maine
June 15th, 2012
2:37 pm
Lets go braves get a win tonight….. seems like thigns are starting to get shaken up….. now we will see how they play…. GO BRAVES!!!!
chipl1960
June 15th, 2012
2:37 pm
Gauntlet not gantlet.
Bay Area Steve
June 15th, 2012
2:37 pm
If you guys must see it as the plan backfiring, just look at its other consequence: Livan is gone. And, more importantly, Livan can’t be used by Fredi in any winnable game.
That makes it a win, even if we did lose Meds for a few games.
Braves Fan in Maine
June 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
Livan DFA
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
Brian, ask Medlen how he feels about this and I doubt he is a happy camper.
Want me to ask him on twitter? or have my friends at TRG ask him? Larry Wachs will be near the Braves ‘pen tonight….
ncscoots
June 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
Kimbrel, Venters, EOF, Medlen, Martinez, Durbin, Varvaro. Room for one more pen arm addition at the daedline. Durbin has exceeded expectations,
Oh, man. There really isn’t very much experience down there when you think about it, is there? Not that I thought Livan helped in that regard, at all, but geez louise…
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Braves Fan in Maine It was released by the Braves on Twitter.
George
June 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Arkansas Transplant
June 15th, 2012
2:15 pm
Chipper’s not having much marriage luck.
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Depending on how you look at it, 12 years is a long time. I don’t know why we are talking about this, it should be a private matter.
Boyd
June 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Brian,maybe. He is a good guy who might not have any anger but I think most of us would.
bravesgrl4life
June 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
I feel badly for old Smiley Hernandez, but after that Toronto game, I am glad to see he’s not going to be coming in to give up a 4-run lead again. Best of luck to him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Twitter is how I get a lot of baseball news… every person should have one!!!
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:40 pm
Hanson’s had discomfort
He has? Or are we talking last year?
Doofus(Goober and Gomer's Smart Brother)
June 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
Based on what the POTUS just did, I suggest we let him and FG “the robot” change places and see if we can tell any difference in the way the Braves play and the way the country is run. I would bet we won’t be able to tell any difference in either one. Just proves one thing. Neither have the slightest idea what they are doing and are not qualified to be in their positions. The Orioles are redhot right now so don’t look for anything other than a 3 game sweep. That way you won’t be letdown tremendously once again. Right after the O’s it’s 3 with the Yanks again. Braves are looking at 0-10 right away!
Braves Fan in Maine
June 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
thanks onlybravesfan!!!
Mister Frisky
June 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
Good thing Wren didn’t pull the trigger on the Adam Jones trade ths winter.Who needs another athlete when you got a line up full of fat white stiffs.ITS BOHICA TIME AGAIN!FIRE FG!LAST PLACE JUST AROUND THE CORNER.GOOD NITE NOW.
Murph
June 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
What is the trading deadline date? July what?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
Livan Hernandez has been designated for assignment and Kris Medlen has been recalled from Gwinnett. Medlen will be in uniform tonight.
Dang…So Medlen’s not gonna start? Bah…what a waste that may have turned out to be…
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:42 pm
Murph, July 31st is the non-waiver trading deadline, as always.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:42 pm
Oh, man. There really isn’t very much experience down there when you think about it, is there? Not that I thought Livan helped in that regard, at all, but geez louise…
Durbin and O’flaherty are vets enough for me. You don’t get a guy who throws slop at 80mph and with an ERA of 5 in his last couple years, who has never been a reliever, to be your veteran. He’s a younger Jamie Moyer. No need to steal signs, everything is coming at 80 mph…
MikeInFl
June 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
Oh, man. There really isn’t very much experience down there when you think about it, is there?
I think that’s been a huge consideration by the front office the last couple of years, with all the young guys coming up. I’m sure Wren knew that we had better arms at Mississippi than Livan’s (or probably Durbin’s, for that matter) but he has not wanted to depend on a bullpen with so little experience.
Same story last year with Sherrill and Linebrink.
Wren seems more willing to divert from his game plan than I thought he would be; I give him credit for that.
Bay Area Steve
June 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
Efrim, sorry. *Hudson.
B_F 54
June 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
Now call back Pastor and Georgie and let Jack and Eric follow as in Livan
space monkey
June 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
I was at that Holtzman game. A gift from my uncle long ago. It’s a wonder I still love baseball. It was a miserable experience for a young Braves fan.
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
I think just as instrumental in all this as the improvement of Minor/Delgado is the fact that the bullpen has had it rough the last week or so. For a while they were doing really well, even besides Medlen.
Sopheee
June 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
Best wishes to Livan, really seems like a nice guy but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
You don’t like Oreos that much? Man…I thought you did. That must be Sopheee…
Correct, McFann. Not my absolute favorite cookie but it’s up there. Oreos with a glass of milk…heaven.
D.A. Nuggla
June 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
TOBF, Twitter is just like Facebook, and I run from it full speed. It’s a socialist “Peyton Place” and many are already regretting they ever got on Facebook. The same will happen with Twitter. If you value your privacy and personal info, stay away from it. Just a suggestion , by the way!
George
June 15th, 2012
2:44 pm
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
Livan Hernandez has been designated for assignment and Kris Medlen has been recalled from Gwinnett. Medlen will be in uniform tonight.
Dang…So Medlen’s not gonna start? Bah…what a waste that may have turned out to be…
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Yuppers MEDS could havebeen here the whole time.
ncscoots
June 15th, 2012
2:45 pm
He is a good guy who might not have any anger but I think most of us would.
If he doesn’t have any ill will about the whole deal, he ain’t human. It’s how he reacts to being p***ed off that counts. If he trots out the Book of Baseball Cliches in public, it doesn’t really matter what he says to his agent in private.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
I feel badly for old Smiley Hernandez, but after that Toronto game, I am glad to see he’s not going to be coming in to give up a 4-run lead again. Best of luck to him.
I kinda do. I feel bad that he was ever signed here… he wasn’t going to stay long here, and we didn’t need him anyway.
Dang…So Medlen’s not gonna start? Bah…what a waste that may have turned out to be…
Tell me about it. It was a waste from the moment he was sent down.
Murph
June 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
What, what? Livan is gone???
Happy happy joy joy! The guy was worthless.
Hmmmm… with Livan gone, Durbin pitching much better, Diaz killing it at the plate… who will be the target of my ire?
McCann is breaking out at the plate… can’t be him. Heyward has a bunch of hits over his last 7 games… can’t be him. Freeman? No. Uggla? Heck no. Prado, no, Bourn, no, Simmons, no, Chipper, no.
Francisco. He’s far and away the most worthless player on the roster now.
Dump Francisco!!!
Sopheee
June 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
Yuppers MEDS could havebeen here the whole time.
Eh, who knows? It may have lit a fire under Minor’s behind and gotten him going. We’ll see soon enough.
TuffShhhtuff
June 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
“Sopheeeeeeeeee” but they have to be “Double-Stuff” Oreos. Not enough creme in the regular ones. I with you though with the milk and oreos late at night.
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:47 pm
The Braves are one trade away from dumping Francisco. If a bat comes up they can use, I think the guy is gone. He has been completely worthless for a month or so now.
Plate Appearance
June 15th, 2012
2:47 pm
A TRUE MANAGER
Ah, if only the Braves had a manager like this:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8017602/communication-key-los-angels-dodgers-manager-don-mattingly
But I’m dreaming.
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:48 pm
I’m sure Wren will focus on getting a bullpen arm more than anything this trade deadline. Perhaps strengthening the bench as well. Francisco hasn’t exactly worked out.
Braves Fan in Maine
June 15th, 2012
2:48 pm
Murph….. totally agree he is a fat under performed poor excuse for a baseball player…. he can hit a baseball far if he could actually hit!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:48 pm
Now call back Pastor and Georgie and let Jack and Eric follow as in Livan
Rev doesn’t need to be sitting on the bench behind Simmons this year. Constanza is overrated IMO.
D.A. Nuggla One of the social media haters, is you? I’m very computer savvy, so I’ll be fine
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 15th, 2012
2:49 pm
Sopheee—
Totally heaven…
And check THESE out! Mom came across this the other day…haven’t made them, but whoa—that’s int’resting…
Sopheee
June 15th, 2012
2:49 pm
Dump Francisco!!!
Ooh, another club! Hillbilly, I’ll need an analysis ASAP.
DawgDad
June 15th, 2012
2:49 pm
“You can say it was a waste now to send Medlen down, but it makes us look a whole lot smarter to have the benefit of hindsight.”
I can, and I did so repeatedly at the time, and even before when it was being discussed. Sending Medlen down to “stretch out” was a totally unnecessary, undeserved, and ill-conceived mistake by our GM, pure and simple, and in my opinion it has cost the Braves in the standings.
I’m not totally down on Wren – he’s done some good work, but he has some failings that are very obvious and very perplexing (I’ll probably faint if he ever brings in a legitimate left fielder).
Also, if the AL East is a gauntlet for the Braves they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. You’re either one of the best teams in MLB and deserving of a shot at the NL pennant and World Series or you don’t deserve anything more than a “wait till next year”. This building a team in hopes of landing a Wild Card spot is nonsense in my book; you set out to play for ALL the marbles.
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:49 pm
Traded a Top 15 prospect for Francisco and it’s just been a disaster of a trade. He has no control of the strike zone.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
Ken Rosenthal must be behind or something….
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Braves have been calling around, trying to move Livan Hernandez to make room for Medlen. Roster spot in jeopardy.
Who would want to trade for Livan? what would they give, $1?
Sopheee
June 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
Definitely, TuffShhhtuff. Double Stuft, split them in half, dump one half of the cookie in the milk, then the next. Ay.
Carroll Rogers
June 15th, 2012
2:51 pm
Livan Hernandez was designated for assignment and Kris Medlen was recalled from Triple-A Gwinnett to be back in uniform tonight. Seems Medlen is headed back to the bullpen.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 15th, 2012
2:51 pm
mcfann: those look too good…. I don’t want to cook tho
George
June 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:47 pm
The Braves are one trade away from dumping Francisco. If a bat comes up they can use, I think the guy is gone. He has been completely worthless for a month or so now.
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Yup, Trade FREDI, FREDDY, JAUN, and JASON for DUSTY, JOEY, TODD, and CHAPMAN. Only kidding CIN would never do it.
George
June 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
Brian from SC
June 15th, 2012
2:47 pm
The Braves are one trade away from dumping Francisco. If a bat comes up they can use, I think the guy is gone. He has been completely worthless for a month or so now.
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Yup, Trade FREDI, FREDDY, JAUN, and JASON for DUSTY, JOEY, TODD, and CHAPMAN. Only kidding CIN would never do it.
Frankie Wren
June 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
Day Meds goes to Gwinnett-
1) Experiencing 8 game losing streak
2) Minor visiting chiropractors 5 days a week with neck issues watching balls deposited to fans underneath Coca Cola bottle.
3) Delgado very much inconsistent in past two starts. That very day Delgado broke the streak and wins against St. Louis
Two backend pitchers with very shaky status coupled with a 8 game losing streak forces Medlen out to Gwinnett.
Definitely belongs in the pen where he hopefully pitches similar to early season performances.
Gustopher
June 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
Great Blog Carroll. I hope you didn’t jinx Tommy.
Sopheee
June 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
McFann – I saw those on Pinterest last month! Holy moly, that’s some goodness in one bite right there. I’ll have to try it one day.
ncscoots
June 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
Wren seems more willing to divert from his game plan than I thought he would be; I give him credit for that.
Yeah, well, I don’t know if the euphoria over Livan’s exit will be able to overcome the blog’s ire when one of the recent callups goes nuke. That might be kinda fun to see here, if only a Braves’ loss didn’t come along with it, LOL.
How do you see the roles, Mike? Medlen to take some later innings occasionally, or not? Martinez in the Livan role? Whaddya think?
Efrim
June 15th, 2012
2:53 pm
I don’t think the Braves saw Hoover as anything more than a set-up guy anyway, so it’s not going to keep me up at night, but I’d certainly rather have J.J. than Big Juan.