10:06 am June 14, 2012, by Carroll Rogers
The Atlanta Braves were swept by the New York Yankees on Wednesday, losing the finale 3-2. However, the Braves remain confident according to Carroll Rogers of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
June 14th, 201210:24 am
The only thing these guys should be confident about is their ability to choke against good teams and their ability to give nothing but pathetic excuses in the postgame press conference. These guys are pathetic.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ!!!
June 14th, 201210:40 am
There is an organizational mentality of “we’ll get them next time” that has to change if this team is ever going to be successful in big spots. McCann is exhibit #1. He came up in 2005. Since then, we have had one playoff appearance. As someone who has so much praise heaped upon him, is that really acceptable? “we know we can hang with them and we know we can compete and we know we can beat them.” That is what McCann says every time we lose a game.
It is the loser mentality of this organization, and it has to change at some point. This team is never going to go anywhere if this continues.
Here is what McCann said after we were swept to open the season: “There’s nobody in here at all thinking about what happened last year,” catcher Brian McCann said. “We won 89 ballgames [in 2011]. We’re a very talented team. Tip your hat – these guys [Mets] put together some really good at-bats over there. It seems like one through eight, they had a good gameplan and they executed it.”
It’s always “we’re a good team, things will change,” until next thing you know, you have blown the wild card lead at the end of the season. It is an organizational issue and we can continue to expect the same results until an infusion of players who will get a bit angrier takes place
June 14th, 201210:44 am
I’m confident too. They will lose another 6 in a row AT LEAST. Maybe more. Fix the team back like when we were winninng.
June 14th, 201210:46 am
Ben Sheets Throws For Teams
By Tim Dierkes [June 13 at 9:03pm CST]
Righty Ben Sheets threw for scouts today in Monroe, Louisiana, MLBTR has learned. Scouts from the Phillies, Braves, Yankees, and Angels were in attendance.
Sheets, 33, signed a one-year, $10MM deal with the Athletics in January 2010 despite missing all of the ‘09 season due to a partial tear in the flexor tendon near his right elbow. He made 20 middling starts for the A’s in 2010 before going down for a second flexor tendon procedure in August. At the time, Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Sheets actually had three procedures done on his elbow, including Tommy John surgery.
Word is that Sheets didn’t want to return to baseball unless he felt 100%, and he’d like to help a team down the stretch. Assuming he flashes his old form in throwing sessions, Sheets will be a popular free agent this summer.
It still baffles me as to why this organization continues to stock up on pitching when they could use a little help behind the plate as well.
THIS IS WHY THEY ARENT MAKING PROGRESS!
Double Zero Eight
June 14th, 201210:49 am
Fredi is a nice guy. Sometimes “nice guys
finish last” as the saying goes. I think he is
“over his head” when he has to make
quick decisions and adjustments.
Bob Weiss and Lon Kruger were also
nice guys when they coached the Hawks.
The corrrelation here is they failed to get
the job done. I say give Fredi until the
all star break to turn the ship around.
If the Braves are over five games out
at that juncture, Fredi and McDowell
need to go.
June 14th, 201210:53 am
Don’t really care if the Braves say they are confident. Win some freakin’ ball games!
I know you writers have jobs to do, but the Braves comments after each loss are simply stale and carry no weight. You might as well only talk to them after they win games, because we, the fans and readers, don’t really give a darn about excuses or that they “played well but just couldn’t get that key hit or make that key pitch”. Especially since they make no adjustments. It’s one thing to admit there’s a problem and then, be proactive in making the necessary adjustments to change it. But the honest truth is that you guys could pull old quotes from losses earlier in the year, or even last year, stick them on here, and no one would know the difference.
LOL at the Braves
June 14th, 201210:58 am
June 14th, 201210:59 am
Tigers Interested In Carlos Quentin
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [June 14 at 8:43am CST]
The Tigers are interested in trading for Padres outfielder Carlos Quentin, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). Quentin’s $7MM salary could be an impediment for the Tigers, Morosi adds.
Quentin figures to be one of the best available hitters this summer. Since returning from arthroscopic knee surgery, the 29-year-old has a .421/.542/.921 batting line with five home runs in 48 plate appearances. However, the Padres could wait to make major trades until they settle their ownership situation.
And meanwhile, Wren and company are still trying find that Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz trio again. Sorry that probably will never happen again. This team is in need of some kind of consistancy on the offensive end!!!
June 14th, 201211:01 am
While you were asking questions of Fredi, did at all occur to you to reach and test him for a pulse?
The Atom Bomb
June 14th, 201211:16 am
People are stupid to pay to watch these imposters on the field, that is unless they are paying to watch the oter team make monkeys out of them. Send them all to the minors and call the minors up….
June 14th, 201212:03 pm
Just wondering how FG managed to pull the wool over so many people and get hired as manager of the Braves? He was after all let go by the Florida Marlins which should speak for itself. He had no previous experience that said he would be a good major league manager. We are all seeing now what happens when one person (Bobby Cox) basically determines who gets to replace him. He has about as much business managing this team as that guy in the WH does of running this country. Both lost and out of their leagues.
June 14th, 201212:13 pm
Braves has a good team-not a great team. They can not win it all with only one really good pitcher-Hudson. They also can not win it with only average hitters. You have got to have those guys that produce in the clutch. The Braves do not have those type of players. The Braves have hitters that produce when there is really no pressure. They do not produce when a hit is needed to really make a difference. The Yankees have such hitters all through out their line-up. Need a hit to move a runner or to score a run, they get one. The Braves hit into double plays when the pressure is on. No real clue as to what is really needed to win. And the worse thing, the manager has no clue when to bunt or when to swing away. It is ok to bunt with two strikes. Makes the player focus on the play. You have got to at least tie the game before you can win. Especially at home. Wake up Freddie or you will be history-no wait you are probably the lowest paid manager in the league-Job is safe.
June 14th, 201212:22 pm
It must be really tiring to keep tipping your cap to the other team. The same old lame interviews are rather mundane. It would be better if you writers just did not show up after a loss and just reprinted the last interview made after a loss. It would save you some time and get you and the players home earlier. We would rather hear the Braves players just say, “well we loss another one, but we made another $million tonight. Hope those fools show up again and buy some more $8 beer, Got to get my salary first of all”. Honesty would be a change for those so call players. Ps-the so called great pitchers stick and can not be traded, because no one wants them and the hitters are average and below average. If you can not hit 280 or better you are not worth the money you are making.
June 14th, 201212:45 pm
I’m glad the players are positive. At present, I’m not confident because of concerns with our pitching and a continued lack of offensive punch/consistency. I thought the problems with our offense were glaring during the Yankees series.
June 14th, 201212:49 pm
Fredi G has got to GO, NOW. Rather see the Gwinnett Braves play, the these OVER PAID, UNDERACHEIVING. team play. They are an embrassment, to the state of Georgia. THEY ARE NOT WORTH, A HIL OF BEANS.
June 14th, 20121:00 pm
The Braves have a good team, and it is possible for them to go deep into the playoffs, and even win the WC.
June 14th, 20121:17 pm
As you can see, headlines like that one anger even semi-intelligent baseball fans. It’s like something you’d see in a high school paper: “Spartans lose 66-0, but remain proud and confident.”
June 14th, 20121:22 pm
reckingball Go dowm to your locak grade school and convince them. WE ARE NOT LISTENING.
June 14th, 20121:24 pm
This team has a LOSER mentality. Let’s get some players who want to kick ass! Fredi stinks!
June 14th, 20121:37 pm
I can see it coming. A Brave player will require elbow surgery from hat tippin.
June 14th, 20122:04 pm
Even if the Braves make the playoffs(not likely) , who here thinks they can compete in a playoff series with ANY of the top teams? They choke EVERY,SINGLE, TIME against very good opponents. It’s not lack of skill really, it’s ATTITUDE.
P.S. We have lost every single game since Chipper returned.
Joe Tess Fish House
June 14th, 20122:08 pm
DOB U no I was the fist 2 say hiring a loosing managar was a misteak and what did U do? U band me form posting here. Now that is is so blantet obvouis I was rite U ban me again 2 keep from bein embrassed.
I no beter…..I no
June 14th, 20122:10 pm
@Goliath Your P.S. statement is what i have been saying. Finally somebody sees the problem. Now convince idiot management.
No. 1 Braves Fan
June 14th, 20122:14 pm
Braves bashers are all alike. They think they know everthing about baseball but the truth is they know only one thing. That is how to be negative and see
which one of them can rant the loudes to fir Fredi and Wren.
June 14th, 20122:17 pm
At least we are being realistic and not dreaming or smoking something. Get out of your Fantasyland. We don’t want in.
June 14th, 20122:19 pm
Here’s a stat they should be keeping… GAME WINNING HITS. How CLUTCH is the hitter. Even more clutch would be GAME WINNING HITS against top tier teams. Now that’s a stat that MATTERS. Doesn’t matter when the hit occured, as long as it put the team in the lead and they won.
June 14th, 20122:23 pm
If they kept the GAME WINNING HIT stat, I can assure you Chipper Jones would have a VERY POOR lifetime average. Especially against top tier teams and the playoffs.
June 14th, 20122:25 pm
“Just wondering how FG managed to pull the wool over so many people and get hired as manager of the Braves?”
@TuffShhhtuff, you answered your own question later on in your post. I’m not calling you out just agreeing with you. He is the manager because he is buddies with Bobby, that’s it no other reason. This whole organization (outside of ownership who probably couldn’t even tell you who our manager is) is run like the “good ol’ boys club” and the mentality of “You may not be the most qualified for this position but because you’re my friend I’ll give you he job anyway.”
If the Braves say they are still confident, they sure don’t show it at all. As the old saying goes, put your money where your mouth is. I’m in agreement with others here too, FG and everyone else can say how confident they are but until they start playing like they are it doesn’t mean jack. And I too am tired of hearing the same post game drivel being spewed after each and every single loss.
June 14th, 20122:27 pm
The Braves are struggling I agrea, but I want to raise another issue. THE BLACKOUT RULE. I remember back in the sixties and seventies my little league team boarding a school bus and traveling the three hour drive rom south Georgia to the ATL and watch the Bravos. Hank Aaron, Orlando Cepeda, Sonny Jackson, and so on. I could name a ton over the years. I now live in Birmingham and over the years made two to three trips with my family. I am now on disability and can’t afford the prices. I have U-Verse 450 with the sports package and I get blacked out all the time. I have missed 5 of the lst 6 games ( All Three Yankee Games) and will be blacked out this Friday and Saturday. My question is this. Does MLB understand what this is doing to the fan base? What about the fans all over the Southeast that can’t just pick up and drive 5-6 hours to catch a game. Blacking out the game will definately not create new fans. GO BRAVES
June 14th, 20122:28 pm
I’ve noticed in all interviews this year Bourn is the best..Winning comes 1st for him and when he f’s up he tells u no excuses…I hope Wren signs Bourn but knowing Wren he wont.
June 14th, 20122:31 pm
66–do they have Direct tv where u at. If so get it and u can get them all.
June 14th, 20122:33 pm
@ 1:22pm………”WE ARE NOT LISTENING.”
I have a couple of questions about that statement.
Then, how do you know what I am saying?
Why do you reply to what I am saying?
June 14th, 20122:39 pm
Go back to your beer and pot and live in your Fantasyland. From now on you are on ignore.
June 14th, 20122:40 pm
Hey Billy how does Direct Tv get them. Do they have a MLB package, or do they carry the Peachtree TV channel?
June 14th, 20122:45 pm
Hey Billy, does Direct Tv have a MLB package or do they have Peachtree Tv?
June 14th, 20122:48 pm
They have both..I got it and its great.
June 14th, 20122:55 pm
66–they also have Sports/south HD, FSN HD/ TNT HD, all carry Braves and other Baseball games. Good luck–where in S Ga are u from? back in 69-70 I lived in Waycross and moved to Atl..
June 14th, 20123:03 pm
you know the comments are about to explode, just get em over with
another gator chump
June 14th, 20123:06 pm
can’t trust a florida lizard
June 14th, 20123:07 pm
@hmmm Easy now. Let’s not go there. That is really his business and I am soory for him. So please all of us need to back off of personal issues.
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June 14th, 20123:10 pm
Yes, keep it baseball and not character unless it effects baseball.
Chipper I believe has changed his ways and happy family man .
June 14th, 20123:18 pm
I posted this on another blog and want to repeat here
Reckingball – People should be allowed to voice whatever problems they have with the Braves after a loss without being faced with the tired, lame argument that people never post after a win or during a winning streak.
I love how positive you are about the Braves and wish I could share in your eternal view. But, this team is just so frustrating. After all the numerous playoff failures, recent collapse from last season, and the uneven play of this season, I simply cannot fathom this team having even close to the right stuff to win a World Series. That is what I want, a World Series champonship and nothing short of that
June 14th, 20123:53 pm
I concur, the Braves have a loser’s mentality. The FG tends to leave Pitchers in too long. I can normally tell in a short period of time when a Pitcher is on or will stink up the joint.
June 14th, 20124:47 pm
The Braves complacency in the front office carries over to the dugout. You can “go braves” all night long and I am with you. But what about this team, this manager, this general manager leads you to believe that the right moves will be made, the right additions to the roster for the stretch will be affordable. This team is an 85 win club, marginal hopes for the extra wild card. But if they fall out of this by mid July, Bourn is gone. Fredi will not survive.
June 14th, 20124:53 pm
It doesn’t take much to get it right. 1-Benc Chipper as pinch hitter. Release Francisco. Bring back Constanza. That way we will have the winning team back. It worked before. Ity can work again.
June 14th, 20125:03 pm
@Najeh Come on man. Back off his personal life. Please. Only baseball related.
June 14th, 20125:13 pm
Najeh, real classy. (Comment removed.)
June 14th, 20125:15 pm
June 14th, 20125:17 pm
I consider the loss last night as a fluke. It is a game that the braves could have won if they simply got 1 hit with RISP. They left like 13 + runners on base, but sometimes that happens. The previous game they should’ve won too…I blame that game on Fredi. The first game they were simply outplayed… The braves need consistency in the bullpen. Hitting overall has not been the problem. All offenses have their dry spells and offensively the braves just had some bad luck this series. The pitching needs to be corrected!
not cool of AJC to attempt to get to wife of Chipper
June 14th, 20125:20 pm
Noticed not taking comments for blog story on Chipper.
But if so protective at moment, why attempt to contact his wife (as mentioned in article) after Chipper declined to comment and basically wants it kept private. She declined comment also, but Chipper is the supposed “public figure”. Not his wife. AJC can go after her for comments, but readers can’t comment?
June 14th, 20125:21 pm
Not my opinion but respect yours.
June 14th, 20125:24 pm
Love the video clips Carroll… thanks! One thing to read the quotes (that’s great), but even better to see the facial expression… maybe especially for us out of area fans who do not get the post game shows. Thanks!
June 14th, 20125:25 pm
I have a friend who is a Philly fan and his attitude is better than many here
June 14th, 20125:36 pm
Why don;t you join him if you can;t stand us.
June 14th, 20126:34 pm
Tumbledown @3:18pm………I responded to your comments on the other blog. I will go over it again.
It is not my intent, to try to keep anyone from making a comment about their “problems with the Braves”, no matter how repetitive, silly, or just plain dumb, that I believe that most of them are.
Some of their concerns are legitiment, but mostly they are not.
I don’t pretend to be the blog police and try to bully people, like 1 certain character that stays on these blogs all day long, thinks that he is.
But, I reserve the right to comment on the fact, that when things are going good for the Braves most of the people that have been on these blogs vanish, until the Braves hit a rough patch. It’s a fact, check the archives of DOB’s blog.
If it hurts your feelings, or you are tired of it, then just as suggested on the other blog, spin that wheel, and roll on past my comments.
June 14th, 20126:38 pm
I guess that should be ‘legitmate’
June 14th, 20126:39 pm
or maybe legitimate
June 14th, 20126:49 pm
@reckingball Nobody is being a bully. It just makes you mad when you are not being agreed with. Say what ever you want,but dont get so upset when noone agrees. BTW I do give them praise when they win which probably not going to happen under the present circumstances. I do respect your opinion but have the right to disagree.
64 year Braves fan
June 14th, 20126:52 pm
Here in Connecticut had to watch last night’s game on the YES (Yankee) network. Even the Yankee announcers were bewildered by Fredi Gonzalez’s in game strategy. Especially leaving Hinske in the
game in a late inning with runners in scoring position against a left-handed pitcher when Diaz was
available to pinch hit. Also they couldn’t understand why Kimbrel was not used in the 8th innining the
night beflore. I think Fredi has lost 4 or 5 games for us already this year. A firing is overdue.
June 14th, 20127:14 pm
@6:49pm…….On the contrary, I am not mad, the people on these blogs are the ones that seem to be very angry.
If I let my favorite team losing a ball game, or a series of ballgames, upset me as bad as it seems to affect most of the folks on these blogs, then I would find some other form of recreation, other than watching that team.
I am with them win or lose, especially a team as good as this Braves team, that has such a bright future.
Oh yeah, unless they want to start paying my bills, or give me some money, I could care less, if anyone agrees with me, or not. HaHa.
June 14th, 20127:19 pm
OK I can respect that,but I need you to respect my opinion when I am getting after them. If you cant do that then like you said ignore me. Sounds to me I should have saved my Season tickets for you where you could have seen the losers play.
June 14th, 20127:54 pm
I am sorry, but I am unable to respect some of your comments and/or opinions. For instance calling the Braves losers, playing Constanza instead of Jones, the chemistry was messed up when they sent the slap-happy AAA outfielder back to where he should be. etc. etc.
But, if you go back over the comments of these last few blogs, you can see that I have not called your name at all, like you have constantly called mine. And have only made one reference to you, which was,….. well you know which one it was.
So, I can pretty well ignore you, if you wish. HaHa.
Also, in reference to your comment made to me @2;38PM…”From now on you are on ignore.” I kind of took that as a promise. again, haha.
adios amigo, and happy trails to you. may you live long, and prosper.
June 14th, 20128:43 pm
@reckingball LOL What a good joke. I did not say take constanza over chipper. If you check, I said release Francisco and use Chipper as a pinch hitter. Thats OK but please get your facts right.Maybe you are right about Constanza.but my point is when we are facing a lefty we can platoon Diaz with Constanza instead of Heyward.Also record with Constanza 6 and 0. Record with Chipper 0 and 4. Chipper has had a great career and deserves everything he can get,but he is not focused on winning. He just wants the glory this year, I can understand that but he could also help us win.Yes he did mess up the chemistry of the team by insisting on being on the field. He would make a great pinchhitter. And yes until they fix it like it was. They will be losers. When Management decides to get smart and fix it, We will win again. I dont think management is that smart. So until then , look for long losing streaks. When they start winning again, I will be the first one to praise them. Until then THEY ARE LOSERS.
June 14th, 20129:53 pm
DOB: You removed a comment? Good for you. You should do more of that.
June 14th, 201210:33 pm
@8:42……..I thought that we were going to ignore each other.
But, while I am commenting, I must say that I disagree with everything you wrote in that post.
Runnin With The Dawgs
June 15th, 20127:55 am
Go Braves !
June 15th, 20123:58 pm
“Fredi is a nice guy. Sometimes “nice guys
finish last” as the saying goes. I think he is
“over his head” when he has to make
quick decisions and adjustments.”
Nice guys sometimes finish last
And Bobby Cox proved that idiots can sometimes finish first
Fredi G is a very average big league manager. But considering what came before, to complain about a Braves manager being in over his head is outright comical
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