2:37 pm June 12, 2012, by David O'Brien
June 12th, 20127:56 pm
You judge decisions partially by their results, but they should be judged primarily by the data we had at the time of the decision. That’s all I was trying to say.
gotta agree. that was extremely silly and totally unrelated
June 12th, 2012
Minor cost Bourn a hit with his inability to successfully bunt
That’s true..but if that’s the only thing he fails at tonight I’ll take it
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
JNick His .234 average and equal number of K to BB says otherwise…if you look at his stats, his Ks have been going up and OPS going down
I mean recently. And for the whole season, most of the time, he is making contact, but there’s always a fielder in the way…
And I didn’t think he’d really K’d much this year—20 K’s isn’t that bad.
June 12th, 20127:57 pm
I can promise you, and if I had a $100 bill in my hand right now would bet it, that 3 runs is NOT going to win this game!
Minor’s been pretty decent tonight. I’m impressed. Maybe he got his sh*t together.
Nice off speed K, Mike!
Minor looks good. Ahhhh, decisions, decisions.
June 12th, 20127:58 pm
2nd time through the order for minor. Hope he keeps up his good work and goes after these hitters
It was deliberately extreme, nolie.
Though I still think that Heyward should be in there today, doesn’t mean I am not happy for Matt Diaz and the team. BTW, if you wanted him in there badly enough, sit Chipper for one of his weekly rest games.
Looks like Mac has a good start. (fell asleep and missed the whole first inning)
And Andruw almost looks svelte, huh! Too bad he didn’t take his conditioning serious before he left ATL.
Heyward never catches that ball….
the decision was made on data available at the time . Heyward has sukked against lefties and Diaz hits them, and Sabbathia, well
June 12th, 20127:59 pm
Maybe the Braves need to start threatening to demote more of their players to get them get their crap together.
@McFann, when you only have a .234 average, and you’re only using 1/3 of the field when you do make contact, and you’ve been out of the lineup off and on – 20 Ks is a lot. As much as I like Mac, his stats are steadily declining, and he has looked lost since his oblique injury last year.
No walks with a 3-0 lead. Don’t have to throw it down the middle but don’t have to pitch around people either
oh well I gotta go. y’all take care and get us a win
June 12th, 20128:00 pm
Left that ball hanging
June 12th, 20128:01 pm
George – not sure why some are overreacting to your harmless question….
Still an efficient inning for minor
JNick, get the hell off McCann. McFann is right, he’s been making contact but it’s unfortunate that a lot of his contact at bats have been right at fielders. Sometimes, that is the way the cookie crumbles and Mac hasn’t enjoyed a lot of cookies whole this year.
A good 3rd inning for Mike
I suppose that’s where we disagree, nolie. I don’t care about nine ABs and if Diaz hits that well against lefties, then he should always play against them. But you’re certainly free to disagree.
Nice inning, Mike.
Minor looking about as good as he ever has so far tonight
June 12th, 20128:02 pm
I kind of get it, Phil, because it was extreme and it uncomfortable. Whatever. I’m not too worried about it.
June 12th, 20128:03 pm
Minor’s expression reminds me of Jay Cutler. Hope his personality is better.
Mac hasn’t enjoyed a lot of cookies whole this year.
Good! He doesn’t need any. Haven’t you seen him?
Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
Let’s go Mac, get you a hit right here!
June 12th, 20128:04 pm
Cc is a big dude
The 2 pitches were enough there murph
June 12th, 20128:05 pm
Fine—thanks a lot, BMac…
too bad that isn’t the regimented way the game is played then dude, like I said just another stathead who is more concerned with how the numbers are than actually winning games. demanding that every little thing be regimented with little room for the humanity of the game. whatever floats your boat, but don’t be surprised that most fans care more about scoring runs and actually winning the game
June 12th, 20128:06 pm
I love the tough girl talk on here…lol. Especially when they’re arguing against facts and stats. Yeah, sucks when teams know you are only capable of hitting the ball to 1/3 of the field and put the shift on against you.
Mac, we were just talking about you not K’ing too much, and you had to whiff, didn’t you…
Still a 1-2 night…
Nice double Danny!!
Nice rip uggla
arrgh, he just missed it… maybe you could spread some of your dust on Mac?
Dan the Man!!
Dan the Man Uggla!
June 12th, 20128:07 pm
Missed by THAT much!
If anything is right in this world, the Thunder will come out victorious. This NBA finals matchup is the best possible matchup of how to build a team and how not to build one. If the Heat win, all it does will set a precedent for the major market clubs to gather three of the top 20 players in the league, giving smaller markets no chance.
The precedent has already been set. Outside of San Antonio when is the last time a small market team won. Multi superstar teams reside in the big markets like LA, Mia, Bos, and so on. Miami wasn’t the first team to do it, it was just the first time free agents assembled one, the others have been assembled by GM’s. Boston assembled theirs with former star players Allen and Garnett, Kobe didn’t make it back to the promised land until the Lakers basically stole Gasol from Memphis. Smaller market teams are few and far between at the podium.
Seattle/OKC got lucky. Portland picked the big man again at number 1 and they got Durant at number 2 and continued to build through the draft. Imagine being a Portland fan though. The fans have stayed loyal but that team missed out on drafting Jordan and now Durant. Both players they picked right before them turned out to be bust.
Mac has gone to left field several times in the last week
Nice one, Uggla!!
He is on FIYA!!
yeah phil because HIV is so apt with baseball. give me a break.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, Half Empty. Whatever.
Go get him again, MattE
Let’s see, before tonight one outfielder was hitting .194 (14-for-72) against lefties with 2 HR, a .575 OPS and 23 strikeouts.
The backup outfielder was hitting .311 (14-for-45) against lefties with, 2 HR, an .881 OPS and four strikeouts. Oh, and was a team-best 5-for-9 against tonight’s pitcher.
Nevermind that Matt Diaz had a three-run double in the first inning tonight. He was the guy hitting .311 with an .881 OPS vs. lefties before tonight, while Heyward was hitting .194 with a .575 OPS and 23 strikeouts in 72 at-bats against lefties.
Anyone who seriously doesn’t understand that move, well, I don’t know what to tell ya. You don’t make midseason lineup decisions based on how you hope one guy will develop someday, not when the statistics are as glaringly lopsided as the above numbers are. This isn’t the developmental league.
June 12th, 20128:08 pm
I guess the majority of you guys owe FG an apology. Diaz looking good. I know, I know- maybe Heyward would have had hit a GS. But if Diaz had hit into a DP, you would have been all over Fredi. Maybe he’s not so stupid after all.
smart play by the yanks…. dumb play by uggs
Well, that double turned meaningless.
Dumb baseball once again.
Horrible base running by Dan. This is what we are teaching my 10 year olds
Uggla is such a hustler, but not a good move there
June 12th, 20128:09 pm
Nice one, Chipper!
June 12th, 20128:10 pm
Dan just cost us a run…. Hope Minor can keep the Yanks under 3
Good post DOB. Looked like a no brainer to me
of course, now that the lead runner is gone we get another hit. Murphy rules.
CC just don’t have it tonight but damn glad Braves are hitting.
June 12th, 20128:11 pm
nolie, you in favor of a platoon in RF?
June 12th, 20128:12 pm
Heat may be getting to big CC. People don’t say it enough but Atlanta isn’t the easiest city to pitch in.
Diaz is clobbering lefties again which is great for him and great for the braves. Diaz was useless last year when he couldn’t hit lefties. I have to admit I thought Diaz was done with the way he finished last year but I am thrilled that I was wrong
June 12th, 20128:13 pm
I’d like to see your 10 year old play..maybe in Atlanta 2022?
Fredi has an emmy, and folks say he’s not a winner
June 12th, 20128:14 pm
If this is all true, then Heyward should be platooned every time against a lefthander. How is he ever going to learn to hit lefties if he doesn’t get the chances?
If you want Diaz bat in the lineup, then you rest Chipper. How many times has Heyward sat against lefthanders this year so far? About 5-6 times at least. Not quite a platoon, but how’s the kid ever going to get better?
You’ve got starters and then you’ve got Heyward.
And please don’t get me wrong, I like Diaz and think he should be in the game.
Booger Burnette's Left Earlobe
Chipper looks 40 years old. Freeman still looks blind.
I don’t think it will quite be a straight platoon but heyward will get his rest against lefties. Hopefully heyward will put his days off to good use working with the hitting coaches
June 12th, 20128:15 pm
Just poped on to say” no lead safe with MINOR pitching”.
Just asking, but do you think he should be in a platoon – Heyward that is? And if so, do you think Freeman will be placed in a platoon based on his terrible stats vs. LHP?
June 12th, 20128:16 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,944 comments, nolie led the way with 165 posts. There were 195 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 nolie 165
2 TheOnlyBravesFan 86
3 Efrim 79
4 Brian from SC 48
5 Lew 47
6 phil 46
7 DS1 44
8 The A Bomb 43
9 ncscoots 40
10 LAG 39
11 Jay Dubu 38
12 cabravesfan 38
13 Trey 36
14 Jake W. 35
15 Nick 35
16 Tomahawk Mafia 35
17 ChattTownBrian (CTB) 33
18 Disgusted 33
19 Frankie Wren 30
20 brian 30
21 David O’Brien 29
22 McFann :Ô: :Ô: 28
23 Dr.Braves 27
24 Andrelton Simmons 26
25 NickB 26
So, do you think they will give this John Sullivan guy an Emmy like Freddi?
It’s good to see the braves doing well tonight. I guess they’ve gotten their autographed shirts already.
June 12th, 20128:17 pm
Settle down, Mike.
June 12th, 20128:18 pm
He was a pleasure to watch in CF.
12 years in Atlanta, Andruw hit 263/342/497 368 HR’s 364 XBH’s. 10 gold gloves.
Braves going to sign Derek Lee to platoon at firstbase with Freeman? Not making much sense there.
Nice 4th inning for Mike.
Minor looking good…
1 nolie 165
2 TheOnlyBravesFan 86
WTH! nolie musta been bored… took my 1st
Nice inning, Mike!!
June 12th, 20128:19 pm
I don’t always agree with DOB, but you guys that question even the logical moves, like Diaz being in the lineup, make people who have legitimate observations about the lineup look like they are in bed with you idiots!
I don’t like you idiots.
If only Fredi played the numbers with his pitchers…see: bringing in Livan, in the 5th inning, with the bases loaded and 1 out…needing a strikeout or a ground ball…when he has other pitchers, with better K rates and gb rates in his bullpen….::sigh::
Fair points, David.
It doesn’t explain why Fredi also says it’s not a platoon situation. Why doesn’t he platoon Ross (assuming he’s healthy) for McCann, as Ross has a 1.257 OPS against lefties while McCann has a .664 OPS against them.
Perhaps it’s the inconsistencies in his decisions? Either way, the decision makes little sense (to me) in the bigger picture. As I said, others are free to disagree.
Gonna take a long time for Heyward to equal Diaz’s stats vs. LHP, if he ever does. He;s been really bad vs. LHP – so as I said early on in the spring, he was on a short leash for a team that wants to win. Which is fine…..
June 12th, 20128:20 pm
Until there got to be to much of him to watch.
I was thinking he was real close to Andrellton Simmons size when he came up.
DOB, when a player is redhot, screw the stats, you don’t sit him down! No matter what! Look what happened to Bourn when he was on fire. FG sat him down and it took him a couple of games to get going again. BTW, we all already knew you were in Fredi’s “dugout” so we know where you’re coming from.
June 12th, 20128:21 pm
“Let’s get Chipper in one last All-Star game!’
Screw that! When Chipper plays like an A-S, he will get my vote! Mac doesn’t get my vote either.
What is a “few nothing score?” Chirp Caray!!! Cool cat, oh my!
June 12th, 20128:22 pm
He’s pitching like he knew it might be sent down after this outing.. good job
AJ was not a pleasure to watch his last two years in ATL…he looked like a fat ole man.
You judge decisions partially by their results, but they should be judged primarily by the data we had at the time of the decision.
really? and what data is that? small sample size for diaz’s numbers against CC? what piece of data proves that this decision was wrong? if someone makes an argument that JH should be getting ABs against all LH pitchers, I can accept that as a strategic point. but i’ve still to see any data that proves playing diaz in this game was wrong.
Kid is dynamite–all good for sure.
Nice double, Andy!!!
June 12th, 20128:23 pm
Simmons has surprised me with the bat up to this point.
Way to go, kid!
Nice AB, Mike!
damn..he can bunt..
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