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Doofus(Goober and Gomer's Smart Brother)
June 12th, 2012
5:27 pm
Once again McFann is right. (I have to say that because I think(?) she is a lady, and a nice one at that)
Kentavo
June 12th, 2012
5:27 pm
I don’t see why we didn’t shuffle the deck a little to give us a chance against the Stankees and not have Delgado and Minor go back to back.
McDS1nnnn
June 12th, 2012
5:28 pm
I can’t believe how many posts have been made about a blog headline. Did you folks pass English in high school? Read the headline.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
5:28 pm
it is not real cheese, real the label….its a cheese product
Kentavo
June 12th, 2012
5:28 pm
And I concur that the drive that Swisher robbed off of B-Mac’s bat was necessarily homer-bound – it may have hit the yellow line and bounced over, but he definitely didn’t go above the fence and bring it back. One less cheesburger for Heap and it might have gone out – or maybe one more cheeseburger and it would have gone out.
phil
June 12th, 2012
5:30 pm
Release someone…
D.A. Nuggla
June 12th, 2012
5:31 pm
As “Doofus” said earlier it’s simple just read the headline using “trade” as a noun and not a verb. Makes perfect sense!
nolie
June 12th, 2012
5:35 pm
release Chipper, he is a total bust
Nerdville
June 12th, 2012
5:37 pm
The Yankees will dominate the Braves this series. Watching the Braves last night was about as much fun as my ingrown toenail. The Yanks will show just how weak the Braves are compared to an elite team.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
5:38 pm
instead of watching that toenail, you should get it taken care of
TuffShhhtuff
June 12th, 2012
5:41 pm
Please do not use the words “Chipper” and “bust” in the same line. They are about as far apart as anything can be. At least the “bust” I am thinking about.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
5:42 pm
Chipper’s —hooters. not really all that far apart once upon a time
Skip & Pete Fan
June 12th, 2012
5:43 pm
Let’s get Game 2! #hopeful
Mixxo
June 12th, 2012
5:43 pm
We were pretty much outclassed in every dept. last night. Will be this entire series.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
5:46 pm
hell they got an infield alone that all four might approach the HOF, what do you expect. Its a sin that they are playing no better than they have so far
JeanE
June 12th, 2012
5:47 pm
OMG (yes, I’m going there) would people shut up about Matty D playing against CC? I’m sure he’ll be pulled as soon as he lefty is out of the game, so relax Diaz haters. I also watched Swisher’s catch last night and thought, that doesn’t look like a homer to me, more a double. Still, it did hurt. Stupid Swisher married to that chick from TV with those goofy sideburns. Hate the Skankees! Detest hearing all those cheers for them, too. We need to shut them all up big time but I’m not feeling too confident with MM. Jonny V looked great last night, like the old Every-day Jonny. I liked seeing him wear the high socks, he’s one of the few players that look better like that. Go Bravos!!!!!
Bat Masterson
June 12th, 2012
5:49 pm
Considering all the comments the headline probably drove quite a few extra page hits. Job security
The Northwest Florida Daily News used to have a great headline writer. He left over a year ago and I can’t remember the last time I thought to check their site.
Andrelton Simmons
June 12th, 2012
5:50 pm
Found an interesting stat –
- With runners on J-Hey hits .280 avg, .367 OBP, .387 SLG%, and .749 OPS, 12 BB, 23 SO.
- With nobody on J-Hey hits .218 avg, .301 OBP, .482 SLG%, and .783 OPS, 11 BB, 32 SO.
7 of J-Hey’s 8 HR have come with nobody on base. All of his 3B have come with nobody on base
Seems like we get the rookie year Jason Heyward at the plate when runners are on base. He’s more patient, hits for a better average, and gets on base at a much higher rate.
However, when nobody is on base it seems like he’s trying to hit for more power and he is, but it’s costing him a lot in the average and OBP department. He clearly has a different mentality at the plate when runners are on compared to when nobody is on. He has a lower average, lower OBP, lower walk rate, and higher strike out rate when nobody is on base. Seems like he’s much more focused on advancing the runners and getting on when runners are on base and it seems like he’s more worried about making something happen and putting up a crooked number on the scoreboard when nobody is on base. The stats somewhat prove that he has a different mentality at the plate with runners on compared to when nobody is on base. Maybe he should change his approach/attitude at the plate when nobody is on. Give up some of that HR power for average and OBP…. He’s still going to hit a decent amount of HR’s but I think he could put up a much better avg and OBP if he changed his mentality in this situation.
JeanE
June 12th, 2012
5:51 pm
Gotta agree, I went, The Braves got Dempster, wow!!!! Then I read further…it’s very misleading but gets you reading!!
nolie
June 12th, 2012
5:52 pm
it’s very misleading,but gets you reading!!
another poet…
Ralph
June 12th, 2012
5:53 pm
If the braves would score some runs they wouldn’t need any pitching. Having said that, as DOB suggested we might want to add a pitcher in the Bullpen and he hinted that Hernandez would be the one to leave. If by some miracle Minor should have an outstanding outing tonight and Meds does the same at Gwinette I suppose they will bring Medlen back to the Pen and say adios to Livan. Please God, make it happen.
I dislike Freddi more daily...
June 12th, 2012
5:54 pm
Why is Freeman batting 7th? Why is Heyward off again after just having a day off? Come on man. gd
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
5:55 pm
7 of J-Hey’s 8 HR have come with nobody on base. All of his 3B have come with nobody on base
And Dan Uggla gets accused of hitting useless solo homeruns. Heyward is a bum. Trade him…
Stat Bully
June 12th, 2012
5:55 pm
AJC firing of David O’Brien, other beat writers unlikely
Seriously, thanks for the headline change–the original totally threw me for a loop.
richbrave
June 12th, 2012
5:56 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
7:05 p.m. start
MISSISSIPPI
Scheduled day off.
LYNCHBURG
Twi-night double-header. First game 6: p.m.
ROME
Double-header. Game 1 in progress SANDGNATS up 2-1 bottom of the third.
DSL
10:30 a.m. start. No report posted.
cowdogit
June 12th, 2012
5:56 pm
Not doing Chipper any good by trying to play him at third . Arthritis has set in ,let him pinchhit and end his career with a little dignity .
richbrave
June 12th, 2012
5:57 pm
Nerdville
June 12th, 2012
5:37 pm
The Yankees will dominate the Braves this series. Watching the Braves last night was about as much fun as my ingrown toenail. The Yanks will show just how weak the Braves are compared to an elite team.
MIXXO?
nolie
June 12th, 2012
5:58 pm
arthritis? Really?
richbrave
June 12th, 2012
5:59 pm
phil
June 12th, 2012
5:30 pm
“….Release someone.…”
Anyone. Don’t just fiddle while ROME burns!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
6:00 pm
Braves 7-2 on tuesdays…. Looking good. Minor goes 6, 2 or 3 ER…. Braves win!
nolie
June 12th, 2012
6:02 pm
don’t be drinkin the kool aid phil, this game has been a loss since they made up the schedule. everybody knows that….
jim
June 12th, 2012
6:12 pm
So far this year Mac, Freeman, Chipper, Prado, and Heyward have all played at least one game hitting 3rd. Can we settle on some consistency?
Someone posted earlier that Heyward had higher BA, OBP with runners on vs bases empty, but more HRs and 3Bs with bases empty. This is probably a feature of hitting 7th in the lineup where a walk or single is not likely to result in a run — trying to do too much?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
6:14 pm
wait is Diaz 5-9 against CC? Don Sutton just said he’s 3-4 (still good,but smaller sample size)
Jay Dubu
June 12th, 2012
6:17 pm
When CC get knocked out of the game in the bottom of the 9th, Fredi will have Heyward available to pinch hit.
I know the season is long, and you can’t win every game, but Fredi can not afford to give games away like he did against the Blue Jays…especially when the Braves are in 2nd place.
He acts as if the Braves have the lead. Remeber last season Fredi, and just 1 win would have put you in the playoffs.
It doesn’t matter when the win came, you only needed 1.
jim
June 12th, 2012
6:20 pm
The way Girardi managed his pen last night, Jason won’t see a RH pitcher at any stage of the game if it is at all close.
JeanE
June 12th, 2012
6:20 pm
Chipper, I love ya, but that’s not nice to say that about Matty D even if you’re kidding! Why don’t you try getting a hit tonight instead of cracking your career is over when you’re hitting behind Matty, then we’ll talk.
At least Matt got fired up the other night, it was so funny to see him get ejected even if he couldn’t come back in the game. I’d like to see all the guys fired up tonight, come on.
Big Yank
June 12th, 2012
6:22 pm
I hear the Yankees have their eye on Bourne, waiting to see if he is good enough to be a Yankee. Money is no problem.
F. W. Ren
June 12th, 2012
6:23 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
I would rather keep Heyward, and trade you!!
jim
June 12th, 2012
6:25 pm
Actually two more wins were needed to make the playoffs — one win only got us into a tiebreaker game. (It was only one more win against the Cardinals during the first 162 games)
Jay Dubu
June 12th, 2012
6:26 pm
Braves had last night to get the stars out of their eyes while in awe of the Yankees…so, tobight, let’s play ball
Gil in Mechanicsville
June 12th, 2012
6:26 pm
On misleading headlines…
Folks, you have to ditch your speed reading skills when reading newspaper headlines. It is the headline writer’s job to pique your interest. The Dempster headline was misleading but if you went back and scanned it a second time, you could see the hook.
On Diaz… I don’t get the hate. The guy plays a decent outfield and hits lefties. I don’t know what else you want from him. He is not the one costing the Braves a ton of money. A couple of things you have to remember. First, you have to have enough money to lure top tier talent to your organization. Secondly, that talent does indeed want to play for your organization.
If Matt Diaz was the player everyone wanted him to be, the Braves could not afford him. Accept him for what he is and move on.
While tonight’s matchup does not appear to favor the Braves on paper, they still have to play the game. Who knows, Mike Minor could pitch the game of his life. It happens every so often, especially when such pitchers realize they are on the short list to make room for a kid being “stretched out” in triple A.
If winning is truly all that important to you, perhaps you should become a Yankee fan, after all, there is always room on the bandwagon… Sure, I want my team to win but win or lose, they are my team. GO BRAVES.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 12th, 2012
6:27 pm
Doofus Once again McFann is right.
Naturally…
What was I right about this time…?
And yes, I am a lady—thank you.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
6:27 pm
TOBF—Heyward.?
Heyward—TOBF ?
close, but I gotta go with Jason too…..
Ralph
June 12th, 2012
6:28 pm
Big Yank
Bourn doesn’t hit enough home runs for the Yankees, they don’t care about stealing bases, just knock them in with one swing, Kemp would be more their style CF.
Jay Dubu
June 12th, 2012
6:28 pm
If they played the tie break game…that would have been “the playoffs”.
Just like I said, 1 more win.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
6:29 pm
except that Kemp aint available, and whats wrong with who they have?
Big Yank
June 12th, 2012
6:31 pm
@Ralph
Yeah, I guess you’re right. Bourne would not be the epitome of a Bronx Bomber.
Ralph
June 12th, 2012
6:32 pm
Yankees will upgrade whenever they can
Big Yank
June 12th, 2012
6:33 pm
Maybe more like whenever they want to.
NEW CARS
June 12th, 2012
6:35 pm
My preference would be to see how Medlin does. Juurjens has pitched well two of his last three outings and the poor one he was sick and I can’t figure why they pitched him. I would rather see a trade for Carlos Quentin. That would allow Prado to be available to play rf,2b,1b and 3b and protect us against one of those four guys going down. I can’t bear to see Hinske, Diaz or Costanza have to start for any duration.
Ralph
June 12th, 2012
6:35 pm
Actualy the Yankees are waiting for Heyward to reach his hype and start hitting 40HR’s, 300BA in time for free agency.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
6:35 pm
Fire nolie and F. W. Ren!!!!!
nolie
June 12th, 2012
6:37 pm
I hafta pay more attention. I never noticed that BBRef will sum and average any part of a players career
Murph
June 12th, 2012
6:41 pm
I miss the Gattis hype… on days like today, when things about the Braves are feeling glum, a little Gattis talk was all it would take to cheer me right up. Instead I have to read about Matt Diaz vs Heyward… blub, bluuuuub, bluuuuuuuuuuuuub.
Ralph
June 12th, 2012
6:44 pm
Good one Murph
David O'Brien
June 12th, 2012
6:44 pm
Hey DOB, read the headline and you tell me if it reads that the Braves traded for Dempster. Come on, dude. — Brian
Ha. I didn’t realize it till later after seeing a bunch of facebook comments.
But you know what? I think we should do that intentionally in future. That way the short-attention-span theatre folks would have to read more than headlines and 140-character Tweets, right?
David O'Brien
June 12th, 2012
6:46 pm
Sheesh, fix your headline. I guarantee you your journalism teacher would have failed you for that. — StrunkAndWagnel
You really know where to hit me where it hurts. My journalism teacher would have failed me. I mean, really, at this point in my life that’s hugely important.
David O'Brien
June 12th, 2012
6:49 pm
It amazes me that more posters are more concerned about the headline(which is technically correct) than the fact that DOB made a mistake in his lineup in two different places. – Doofus
So, Doofus, let me get this straight. You read the obvious typo in the lineup as listed below, and instead of your brain processing that and realizing it was an obvious typo, you instead thought what? That Chipper was playing LF? That Freeman was playing LF? I’m just curious, what part of it were you left wondering about?
Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Prado 3B, McCann C, Uggla 2B, Diaz RF, Chipper 3B, Freeman 1B, Simmons SS, Minor P
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 12th, 2012
6:51 pm
Doofus DOB made a mistake in his lineup in two different places.
DOB didn’t do that—that was Fredi…
nolie
June 12th, 2012
6:52 pm
Fredi woulda made more mistakes than just two places…..
phil
June 12th, 2012
6:54 pm
I’m just amazed that the headline had to be changed.
No, wait. Actually, i’m not.
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
6:55 pm
I heard that the Dodger and Andre Eithier came to a 5 yr 85 million dollar agreement today.
If Eithier can command that you tell me that another team will not offer 5 and 70 plus million for Bourn this off season?
That is one key piece off the FA marked this off season.
There is still a window of opportunity right now, but as time passes and the price of good talent rises, the window of opportunity is going to be short for Brave fans.
Mark my word, by the later part of the decade we will be a bottom 5 payroll team assuming things stay the same.
Braves fans cannot afford patience, because this window of chance is going to be short.
Man that TV deal until 2031 sucks. I hope to outlive that. Even in my oldest yrs will not stop rooting for another golden era even if I have to wait into my late 70’s for it. Just get decent ownership in here.
phil
June 12th, 2012
6:55 pm
FG made a mistake ever becoming a manager….
Bat Masterson
June 12th, 2012
6:55 pm
I just figured Prado and Chipper would both start the game at third incase Jeter tried a bunt.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
6:57 pm
Chipper always could use any help he could get at third….
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
6:58 pm
“On Diaz… I don’t get the hate. The guy plays a decent outfield and hits lefties. I don’t know what else you want from him. He is not the one costing the Braves a ton of money. A couple of things you have to remember. First, you have to have enough money to lure top tier talent to your organization. Secondly, that talent does indeed want to play for your organization.”
@Gil in Mechanichsvile — Spot on could NOT BE SAID ANY BETTER.
The parent corporation has the $$$$$$$ but is not going to invest it in the Braves. And they are not going away any time soon.
The more I see what other teams are paying guys, the less optomistic I am five, eight, ten yrs down the line. The 2020’s are going to be bleak if status quo remains what it is now.
phil
June 12th, 2012
6:58 pm
The Cubs run of futility, the Indians’ failures, the Mariners, the Astros, Padres, etc….
Plenty of support for the possibility that most of us never see us win a championship again.
Now I’m depressed. Sigh.
njbraves
June 12th, 2012
7:00 pm
Disgusted….how is the Braves window to win short?? They have a bunch of pitchers in their early 20’s and several young position players, who are all under team control for years to come. Wrong again buddy.
Big Yank
June 12th, 2012
7:00 pm
Really, about all the Braves have is Prado and Bourne. I don’t know if Casey could do much with that.
phil
June 12th, 2012
7:00 pm
And this is why I take no season for granted…
Fire Chip Carey!! Please!
nolie
June 12th, 2012
7:04 pm
Minor pitching? 27-5
Tomahawk Mafia
June 12th, 2012
7:06 pm
It is difficult to have an optimistic feeling about this game. I predict 6 walks and 3 homers from Minor tonight.
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
7:06 pm
Harrison is hardly lighting anything up,a 102 ERA+ and a 1.4 WHIP are nothing special at all. both he ans Salty would not have stayed with the team since then anyway most likely. whole lotta over reaction here to that trade. It sure wasn’t Tex’s fault that we didn’t get there that first year. he was great
@nolie — The organization goofed with hallowing Jo Jo over Harrison, while Harrison is not great, at least he is MLB caliber. I hate that they overhyped and kept on giving Reyes chance after chance to show what he was — The WORST pitcher in ATL Braves history.
Had we kept Harrison over Jo Jo Reybumb, it would have been easier to take.
On the other hand, the Texiera deal was made for some of the right reasons and I do not hate it cause we did get one yr of outstanding play from TEX.
But the second Texiera deal for Kotchman and Marek, that is the one I despise with a capitall D.
Jo Jo and Kotchman are my two least favorite Braves of all time. Even more unlikable than Rocker, Andres Thomas and Claudell Washington. Len Barker too, I hated that guy.
Waffle House or Bust
June 12th, 2012
7:06 pm
Jones in there and Diaz. HA HA HA HA!!!!! Fredi is a joke and I predicted he would F things up when Braves were starting to gel without Chipper. Appreciate the guy but can’t wait for him to walk away and end the 90’s finally in Atlanta.
phil
June 12th, 2012
7:07 pm
Chip seems to think starched flags pointing towards the Braves pen is a good thing….
I guess FG is smarter than one member of the entire bunch.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
7:08 pm
we may end up begging for the Mercy Rule to be enforced
Brava
June 12th, 2012
7:08 pm
Go Braves!!!
phil
June 12th, 2012
7:10 pm
Poor Minor…
I said earlier, 3 homers at least, one for ARod at a minimum.
Here we go!
nolie
June 12th, 2012
7:11 pm
and so it begins….
phil
June 12th, 2012
7:11 pm
54 percent and Chip calls it a humid night….
Lord, please deliver us…
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
7:11 pm
Ominous start for Minor…
But the second Texiera deal for Kotchman and Marek, that is the one I despise with a capitall D.
I am Disgusted by that 2nd Tex trade…
Slide J-Hey
June 12th, 2012
7:11 pm
Old A Jones is back in Braves outfield but with Yankees
Brava
June 12th, 2012
7:12 pm
Minor is pitching a preview of the Home Run Derby tonight. Get your popcorn.
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
7:12 pm
@njbraves — Give it 4, 5 yrs down the line and my predictions will come true assuming Liberty Media stays around.
And you are not my buddy.
Once its time for these young pitchers to walk and get paid, they are going. The Braves will not pay 21st century wages. We will see what happens with Bourn, Prado and Mc Cann over the next couple yrs. You do see what other teams are paying to keep their core players and they are not all superstars or even All-Stars.
Just keeping good players will go for 9 or 10 mil before long. Just wait and see what this will be in late decade.
And some of these so called young pitchers like Minor and Teheran are slow in developing.
phil
June 12th, 2012
7:12 pm
Yippeee! An out!
bravesgrl4life
June 12th, 2012
7:12 pm
Okay, gte two more and the Jeeter hit doesn’t hurt so bad.
taylor
June 12th, 2012
7:12 pm
I don’t understand some of the Tex trade hate. He did exactly what we wanted him to do:
.317/.404/.615, 17 HR, 56 RBI, in 54 games
The man absolutely raked for us.
phil
June 12th, 2012
7:13 pm
Will Tex bunt?
cabravesfan
June 12th, 2012
7:13 pm
And some of these so called young pitchers like Minor and Teheran are slow in developing.
Julio Teheran turned 21 in January. He is young.
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
7:14 pm
For some reason, I have a gut hunch that Minor is going to give us a nice surprise and pitch a special game tonite.
Might be the only game we take in the series, but hey “U PLAY @ WIN THE GAME”
THEY ARE WHO THEY THOUGHT THEY ARE
U WANT TO CROWN THEM THEN CROWN THEM. LOL
nolie
June 12th, 2012
7:14 pm
Tex is hitting 219, lets walk him
Bat Masterson
June 12th, 2012
7:15 pm
Minor bringing it @ 100 mph
Tomahawk Mafia
June 12th, 2012
7:15 pm
I hate when Braves pitchers jump ahead of hitters 0-2 or 1-2 and then end up walking them.. Quite nibling.
phil
June 12th, 2012
7:15 pm
Really…
njbraves
June 12th, 2012
7:15 pm
Disgusted….how is Teheran slow in developing?? He’s 21 years old genius. So you think the Braves will let everyone go?? Great call buddy, on point as usual.
VaBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
7:16 pm
Disgusted
I’ve mentioned this many times. Kotchman had a great year in 2007 before being traded in 2008 to ATL. He just didn’t maintain his production. In 2007 Kotchman played 137 games and produced a 296/372/467/840 37 Doubles 11 HR with more walks than strikeouts at 24 years old.
brian
June 12th, 2012
7:16 pm
The young pitchers are pitching scared of the Yankees. Just make your pitches and what ever happens happens
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
7:17 pm
Where was that pitch blue??? Cheating minor of a strikeout
brian
June 12th, 2012
7:17 pm
Give it to me blue!!!!!!!!! That was strike 3
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
7:17 pm
@ca braves — I know he is young but from what we have seen in MLB he does not need to be here on a contending post season team.
We cannot let this get away again like they did last September.
Jo Jo and Charlie Morton had all this and that and you know how that turned out. Those Baby Braves did not turn out to be what they were supposed to be.
Just being young does not give a kid the entitlement to come in and mess it up. Either he is part of the solution or part of the problem.
Jury on Teheran is that he is a struggling young pitcher who has not helped to date.