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phil
June 13th, 2012
2:22 pm
Murph
June 13th, 2012
1:58 pm
Despite the damage it might do to my rep, I am going to go ahead and agree with Shaun here… I can’t remember the guys I looked up, but a few weeks ago I was perusing some stats and noticed how some guys’ BA soared the 3rd and 4th time at bat against a SP.
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Of course this is often the case, but it wasn’t happening last night, as it sometimes does not when a starting pitcher is going lights out. Had Minor walked the next guy or given up a ringing hit, then maybe yank him.
But to yank him because it’s the 4th time through the order? Nah.
The A Bomb
June 13th, 2012
2:23 pm
Now Tyler Moore is even MERRIER. 2 homers.
ncbravesfan90
June 13th, 2012
2:24 pm
Tyler Moore 5 Toronto Blue Jays 2
Juan
June 13th, 2012
2:25 pm
UPDATE
Juan
June 13th, 2012
2:14 pm
Wow…every thin is working for the Nat…they bring a Rookie today to play first Base (Tyler Moore) and has 5 RBI with Two Homer….
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 13th, 2012
2:25 pm
OK, replay videos working today. So I watched Swisher’s home run/trot…
Yeah. Dude needs to be plunked tonight. That was ridiculous. If it was a walk-off homer in the playoffs, sure…but my freaking gosh…
Don’t like him.
David O'Brien
June 13th, 2012
2:26 pm
I, for one, want to commend DOB for the Braves’ recent 6 game win streak. Nice work, DOB.
Thanks, it was some of my best work.
Shaun
June 13th, 2012
2:27 pm
Teams use their ace starters not just to protect leads in playoff series. They also use them to try to take leads in playoff series. So why do teams pretty much save their ace relievers to protect leads in the last inning, rather than trying to do everything they can to ensure they have a lead in the last inning?
I would rather see them go with Kimbrel against the top of the Yankees’ order in the 8th inning and someone like Durbin blow a save in the 9th than not have a save opportunity in the 9th inning. It’s pretty simple when you think it through. You have to get there, to the save opportunity, before you worry about making sure one particular pitcher is available for the save opportunity.
But many teams accept losing so long as their closer is available for save opportunities.
Arkansas Transplant
June 13th, 2012
2:29 pm
Shaun, I’m sorry but I don’t buy into the stigma of… “it’s Yankee hitters, fear for your lives” mentality. So whether it was the Pirates or Yankees that Minor was going to have to face for the 4th time through the lineup, I’m still on the side.. if he wasn’t tiring then leaving him in there to throw another 10 to 15 pitches. It wouldn’t have been that hard of a decision for me to make. Rather then one thats merely based on pitch count.
ncscoots
June 13th, 2012
2:29 pm
You cannot understand bullpen management if you cannot understand risk management. The two are intimately entwined.
phil
June 13th, 2012
2:32 pm
Fire someone!!
Juan
June 13th, 2012
2:34 pm
We need to hit the road to start winning again…..wait never mind we going to NY.
Carroll Rogers
June 13th, 2012
2:35 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/06/13/medlen-is-stretched-out-now-what/
new focal blog is up
ncscoots
June 13th, 2012
2:35 pm
A little new bloggage from CR, I believe.
Shaun
June 13th, 2012
2:35 pm
phil, I didn’t want Fredi to yank Minor just because it was his 4th time through. Also because he’s a young pitcher approaching 100 pitches. Also because there’s a good chance that a reliever could do better if he’s starting with a fresh inning rather than with a runner on and the middle of the Yankees’ order coming up.
Threadkiller
June 13th, 2012
2:41 pm
Spanky’s funny!!
Pete*
June 13th, 2012
2:45 pm
Shaun: “But many teams accept losing so long as their closer is available for save opportunities.”
Sounds amazing, but true. I recall when John Smoltz was our closer in the playoffs, and him watching a small lead evaporate in 7 or 8th inning and being really upset that Cox wouldnt bring him in. Points out how ridiculous the “save” stat really is, because in effect it “prevents” a manager from using him until there is a “save situation.” All you need to know to prove how useless it really is is that a few years back, a pitcher actually was awarded a save when the Rangers won 30-3 over the Orioles.
The A Bomb
June 13th, 2012
2:45 pm
Oh jeez. We’re on ESPN as well tonight?
Great.
Donald Duck
June 13th, 2012
3:06 pm
Real glad to hear this DOB, because Dempster sucks. We have enough 4+ ERAs on the team.
The problem with our team is that they curl up and pee themselves every time we face a decent opponent. Phillies? (psssssssssssssss)
Nationals? They throw too hard! (dribble dribble…pssssssssss)
Yankees? Here A-Rod… soft toss down the middle. (psssssssssssssss…squirt squirt)
This team is scared.
phil
June 13th, 2012
3:09 pm
Well, Donald Duck, I can’t say I agree with you, but we have rolled over and died, in all sports, for years and years now.
You can’t piss yourself when dead….
Donald Duck
June 13th, 2012
3:20 pm
Indeed Phil – it’s a painful thing being an Atlanta fan. Every year is ‘almost’ – then we lay down in the playoffs.
(psssssssss) ha ha ha!
bobby
June 13th, 2012
4:51 pm
Well instead of going after Dempster how bout going after bullpen help like Bret Myers and then see if you can land a starting pitcher like Wandy Rodirguez by giving up Minor and Jair and maybe a top level prospect like Bentacourt or Salcedo. Here’s how it should go Minor Jair and Salcedo for Lowrie Myers and Rodriguez.
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BartBuzz
July 27th, 2012
5:29 pm
Please! No more stupid deals for a player who will go the free agency route.