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jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:09 am
Through irony. He’s saying “Waffle House or Bust” like I’d say McCann’s going “Salad bar or bust”
He’s just trolling.
or….the evil one.
Brava
June 13th, 2012
11:10 am
VJ, congrats on your newest family member.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 13th, 2012
11:11 am
Well, we all know who the real redneck is….
Bat Masterson
June 13th, 2012
11:11 am
I notice that when I’m right on here, I get ignored which is funny.
Maybe it’s just me but doesn’t that require you to be right at least once before you can make such a claim.
Murph
June 13th, 2012
11:12 am
I would love a pair of overalls… and pajamas with feet…
Kids get to wear all the cool clothes. And rednecks too I guess.
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:12 am
Nah, Toothless and wearing sweat pants.
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:12 am
He knows we’re not all hillbillies (sorry Hilllbilly), just like all New Yorkers don’t walk around saying “fuhgeedabowdit!!” over and over.
He’s just trying to cause a scene…and succeeding.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 13th, 2012
11:13 am
I think he’s trying to rile us up by saying we’re all toothless and wearing overalls
I’ve got all my teeth, never had a cavity. And I don’t like the look of overalls, don’t own 1 pair. Never have.
Sopheee
June 13th, 2012
11:13 am
He’s just trolling.
or….the evil one.
Actually, he’s No More Bobby. Remember him?
Venice Jim
June 13th, 2012
11:13 am
Thanks, Brava, and Bat and Soph and OBF and anyone I might have missed – time to get ready for work, which will at least bring me home right at game time (hoping that will be a good thing)…
phoenix
June 13th, 2012
11:13 am
“Morning After” Facts:
1. Cory Gearrin is a high AAA pitcher. He proves time and again he’s not a major leaguer.
2. Brian McCann is on the downside of a good career. It’s time to look ahead.
3. Braves roster is clogged with players who could not make any other ML roster. Jack Wilson, Livan Hernandez and Juan Francisco should be replaced immediately with players who might actually improve someday.
4. Anyone who’s expecting this team to finish above .500 needs to look closely at the roster, and the rest of the schedule.
5. It’s great that Chipper can contribute a bloop single now and then on his farewell tour, but until Prado is the everyday 3rd baseman, and a decent hitting/fielding left fielder is found, we’re stuck.
6. Braves pitching is no longer elite. Oft-injured starters can’t go deep in games, and bullpen is Jekyll & Hyde. You never know what you’re getting.
7. Fredi is without question, one of the worst in-game managers in MLB. He’s outfoxed nightly.
8. The scoreboard operator should go ahead and put 0-2 up everytime Freeman comes to bat.
9. Heyward is not a platoon player. Start him every night, or shop him to someone who will.
10. Any runs that Uggla drives in, are usually erased by the balls that scoot by him into RF.
And Fredi, Wren & the rest of the “brain trust” should be thankful that the AJC tosses softballs each post-game. The NY/Philly media would be relentless if their management was this inept.
Brava
June 13th, 2012
11:13 am
DOB, add me to the list of those who love you, man. Keep up the great work and don’t let the idiots get you down. There are many more of us who truly appreciate you and all the hard work you put in.
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:14 am
Hey – I have teeth. The dentist did a great job making them, too.
Venice Jim
June 13th, 2012
11:14 am
All the Korean kids I teach in Rancho Palos Verdes probably do consider me a redneck…
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:14 am
Actually, he’s No More Bobby. Remember him?
No More Bobby….jog my memory….what was his stance again?
B_F 52
June 13th, 2012
11:15 am
I see alot of good on this team.In my bravo heart I believe we will make a run at
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:15 am
Sopheee – Apparently he doesn’t realize that changing your name does not increase IQ or aid in cluelessness.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 13th, 2012
11:16 am
DOB, add me to the list of those who love you, man. Keep up the great work and don’t let the idiots get you down. There are many more of us who truly appreciate you and all the hard work you put in
This. He (and I) could care less about the idiots…
Ease
June 13th, 2012
11:17 am
This blowing 4 run leads against Toronto and NY could easily have been prevented by using Kimbrell when it matters.
Yeah, he should have saved Livan to pitch the ninth…instead of the fifth…
B_F 52
June 13th, 2012
11:17 am
It,them whatever
CaptMudd
June 13th, 2012
11:17 am
An outfield of Yankee fans….a ’showcase comeback’ for The Bronx Bombers….An A-Bomb from A-Rod…I do luz yoo still Fredi. But I can’t go back and change my comments of last evening–not at this stage–I indeed feel good about you being in baseball and employed by our Braves. I am positive you are a fine individual, however, whether it be bad luck or another variable…I just don’t favor you as our Skipper. Swisher celebrated a game-winning hit with an emotional display right in front of your less than emotional self last evening…hang in there…and, again, Luz to yoo!!!
raleighbravefan
June 13th, 2012
11:19 am
Waffle – Dude…You’re just ignored…You’re never right.
keylargo
June 13th, 2012
11:19 am
I don’t get people that say “it’s just one game”
Because the team that won the World Series last year won 56% of their games. That’s 90 games since you would have trouble figuring that out on your own. That also means the World Series Champion lost 72 games last year.
Losing a game or three is not the end of the season and or a reason to act like an idiot.
Now you know why they say that. Don’t you wish you were as smart as a redneck?
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:19 am
phoenix is apparently in flame out mode. I wonder when the rising from the ashes begins?
CaptMudd
June 13th, 2012
11:20 am
Congrats…@VJ—got to love those little one’s!
Ease
June 13th, 2012
11:21 am
Interesting stat…and maybe, dare I say, clutch?
Over his whole career, A-Rod has homered once every 12.2 PA w/ bases loaded, and every 17.2 all other times.
Powder Blue
June 13th, 2012
11:22 am
Fredi’s still employed?
George
June 13th, 2012
11:23 am
Hi all
There just is no beating the DAMN YANKEES for the BRAVES somehow before the end of game the YANKEE talent will get us. When the BRAVES play the YANKS it is like a class AAA [the BRAVES] playing a major league team [ the YANKS]. I would suggest a salery cap, but a salery cap would be socialest and I am a political consevetive, plus the players union would never allow it.
B_F 52
June 13th, 2012
11:23 am
Once in a bar in Panama City Fla this dude from N Y knocked out this kid from G A.I took his Yankee’s hat off his head and said “If you want you’re hat I’ll be in the parking lot’
GO BRAVES take one and move on
phil
June 13th, 2012
11:25 am
Brava
June 13th, 2012
11:13 am
DOB, add me to the list of those who love you, man. Keep up the great work and don’t let the idiots get you down.There are many more of us who truly appreciate you and all the hard work you put in.
***************
I would echo these remarks, but DOB is just doing his job and should not be thanked or loved or even acknowledged most of the time, according to some poster a week or two ago. Since I believe everything I read here, what can I do?
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:27 am
I, for one, want to commend DOB for the Braves’ recent 6 game win streak. Nice work, DOB.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 13th, 2012
11:27 am
Fredi’s still employed?
Yep, and I hope he stays employed with the Braves for the next 40 years just annoy all the Fredi haters…
phil
June 13th, 2012
11:28 am
We’re only 0-8 against the Yanks in our last 8 WS games….they hardly own us, even if it’s been nearly 13 years since last we met when it truly mattered most.
0-8….good grief.
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:29 am
Yep, and I hope he stays employed with the Braves for the next 40 years just annoy all the Fredi haters…
Especially George
Powder Blue
June 13th, 2012
11:29 am
“Yep, and I hope he stays employed with the Braves for the next 40 years just annoy all the Fredi haters…”
Self-loathing complex? Or do you enjoy losing?
Murph
June 13th, 2012
11:29 am
Over his last 5 innings pitched Livan has given up 9 ER, 3 HR, 2 walks, and recorded but one K.
He wasn’t used from May 27th to June 10th.
Every now and then the wife and I will go through our garage, our closets, etc and do a little spring cleaning. My theory is, if I haven’t used something in a long time, I don’t really need it, and I get rid of it. I’d rather donate stuff to Goodwill than have it take up space while collecting dust.
If the Braves are only going to use Livan every 7-10 days and he can’t be trusted to come in and get outs to keep the team in a game, then why is he kept around? I get that he’s got experience, but he’s also got a 62 mph curveball and a 78 mph fastball that, lately, have been getting hit all over the ballpark.
Dump Livan, move Medlen pack to the ‘pen, and just move forward.
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
11:32 am
“No doubt Kimbrell should be used when the game is on the line and that means pitching the eight last night. This blowing 4 run leads against Toronto and NY could easily have ”
Problem if O’Flaherty is out tonight as well and Kimbrel goes two innings and throws 40 pitches, you are vulnerable tonight if needed.
George
June 13th, 2012
11:34 am
The best thing last night, MINOR finnally pitched well. The WORST thing last night FREDI has totally ruined VENTERS, last year VENTERS was lights out before the ALL-STAR GAME. This year forgetaboutit. VENTERS IS DONE. THANK YOU FREDI.
B_F 52
June 13th, 2012
11:34 am
Livan and Jack ……first thing smoking out of town on 75/85
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:35 am
Problem if O’Flaherty is out tonight as well and Kimbrel goes two innings and throws 40 pitches, you are vulnerable tonight if needed.
We’ll just have Beachy pitch the 9th. You need your best pitchers in tight spots regardless of the future. Duh.
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
11:35 am
“. Anyone who’s expecting this team to finish above .500 needs to look closely at the roster, and the rest of the schedule”
Let me know if any sportbooks in Vegas throwing odds on that one please. I will take a redeye out that night and 2nd mortgage out on house. Appreciate the heads up if it develops.
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:36 am
ALL CAPS CRAZY TALK!!! AHHHHHHH!!!
brian
June 13th, 2012
11:37 am
I see we are back to being a AAAA team after reading above – full of people no one else wants and full of people on the downside of their career.
Last night exposed weaknesses in the bullpen as did Sunday’s game.
Last night still comes down to venters doing his job. If Venters does not blow up, Braves have a solid win against the Yankees.
My points from last night: for whatever reason, Venters is struggling right now and even with a healthy EOF we need another solid bullpen arm – a true, reliable set up man. Gearrin is shaky at best in the bullpen and not an 8th inning option. The hitting still needs to get more consistent. McCann seems to be coming out of his funk but Freeman really needs to rediscover his stroke/rhythm. Great start by Minor – pitches were great and he handled the pressure against the Yankees very well
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 13th, 2012
11:37 am
Self-loathing complex? Or do you enjoy losing?
I like to win, and we’ve been doing so with Fredi.
Sopheee
June 13th, 2012
11:39 am
If you learn to laugh at the wackiness, it’s actually quite amusing around here after a loss like yesterday.
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
11:39 am
“We’ll just have Beachy pitch the 9th. You need your best pitchers in tight spots regardless of the future. Duh.”
What?
George
June 13th, 2012
11:39 am
Has anyone noticed ? The only time the BRAVES are mentioned on ESPN is when they play the YANKS and the YANKS whip out a**.
ncscoots
June 13th, 2012
11:41 am
I didn’t go back and read any of the venting, obviously, but maybe someone can tell me: wht did N8 have to say about things after Venters went nuke? I’m guessing there might have been some classics in there, LOL.
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:42 am
The only time the BRAVES are mentioned on ESPN is when they play the YANKS and the YANKS whip out a**.
I’ve seen them every day on SportsCenter when I watch.
MFin04
June 13th, 2012
11:42 am
I love that no matter what the move…it is ALWAYS the wrong move. Venters in the 8th with no EOF is the right move, didn’t work out, but there isn’t another guy in the bullpen you use in that situation.
Livan in the 5th in a 4-1 game…pretty much the right move. Even if he collapses the offense should be able to win it in the next 4 innings.
Sure you could always use C-Mart, Durbin, Gearrin, etc, but those guys have had their blow-ups as well. It is baseball. You win some, you lose some. You can second guess ALL day long, but the record doesn’t change. 4 back in the division, win tonight!
Venice Jim
June 13th, 2012
11:43 am
Thanks, Capt!
Just realized next 2 Saturday games are Fox games – that means Jim and Don for us…
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
11:44 am
“The question becomes, does the FO believe that the recent performance of Delgado and Minor is indicative, or not?
Wouldn’t want to be Wren right now. Absolutely no clue what route to go.”
No question about that. Guy’s head is probably spinning and changing his mind on a daily basis. Thankfully trade deadline is 7 weeks away. Hopefully decisions and thought process a little more clearer.
keylargo
June 13th, 2012
11:44 am
Same people are ripping Fredi that were ripping Bobby last year. They’re just using different names. I wonder who George was last year?
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:45 am
The only person I know of that ripped Bobby last year was Robert.
Murph
June 13th, 2012
11:45 am
I didn’t go back and read any of the venting
I haven’t either. I usually like to go back and and read the in-game after the fact… it’s fun to read people cheer when something good happens and go all pout-pout fish after something bad happens. For some reason, though, I can’t bring myself to read last night’s.
When I left, right after Diaz knocked in those 3 runs, I think the blog was on page 3 or 4. When I came in this morning it was on page 22. Nothing good can come out of that many pages in just one night.
ncscoots
June 13th, 2012
11:45 am
If you learn to laugh at the wackiness, it’s actually quite amusing around here after a loss like yesterday.
Much truth to that, young lady. One must first learn that one cannot save the world, and, thus, cannot educate every stupy doodie-head pout-pout fish that comes around spraying ignorance. Grasp that and then you can laugh, laugh, laugh.
At most of ‘em, anyway. Some are just so off-the-planet that not even humor is a by-product.
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
11:46 am
Man taking lots of pleasure looking at Phillies box scores these days. Funny thing is that they are hitting like crazy.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
June 13th, 2012
11:47 am
N8 has sworn that he will not watch another game until Fredi is gone. No way we’ll be able to verify the truth of this, of course…
njbraves
June 13th, 2012
11:49 am
Only braves fan….you really like Fredi?? Really?? My god, you idiots deserve the pain this team brings to its fans. Gonzalez is a bafoon and so are most of the retards on here. The Braves have been mediocre for so long you dummies just accept it. The” everything is fine” mentality is embarrassing at this point.
Juan
June 13th, 2012
11:49 am
Keylargo….Bobby Cox been retired for two Season….last yrs Fredi was the Mnager of th Braves…..Remember?
George
June 13th, 2012
11:49 am
keylargo
June 13th, 2012
11:44 am
Same people are ripping Fredi that were ripping Bobby last year. They’re just using different names. I wonder who George was last year?
*********************************************
Hi key
This is my 3rd season here and I have only used two names George and LTBF.
MFin04
June 13th, 2012
11:50 am
What exactly did Fredi do wrong? Unless you go all Shaun on us and bring in Kimbrel, he didn’t have any other move he could make.
Murph
June 13th, 2012
11:50 am
Livan in the 5th in a 4-1 game…pretty much the right move. Even if he collapses the offense should be able to win it in the next 4 innings.
Livan is not a good pitcher anymore. I’m sure Fredi felt that he needed to get him some work after that many days spent… decaying… in the bullpen… but the fact remains that Livan is a batting-practice pitcher whose only asset is his experience. He has a little-league arm, but knows how to use what little he has left in the tank to keep some of the less-talented hitters off-balance. When that doesn’t work, though, the pitches he throws get absolutely murdered.
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
11:50 am
Bobby deserved to be ripped last year. He did a extremely poor job managing in Braves old timer games.
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:51 am
Yet another of the Walking Clueless checks in.
ncscoots
June 13th, 2012
11:52 am
N8 has sworn that he will not watch another game until Fredi is gone. No way we’ll be able to verify the truth of this, of course…
Oh, sure. If N8 isn’t watching the games, be kinda hard to comment on them, wouldn’t you think? Ergo, a N8 post is almost certainly a flag that he’s watching, despite his best efforts.
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:53 am
My god, you idiots deserve the pain this team brings to its fans.
I like him too. And what pain? Losses? Alas…woe is me…if only I was a fan of those lossless Nats. Then I could finally be happy!
The Braves have been mediocre for so long you dummies just accept it. The” everything is fine” mentality is embarrassing at this point.
So follow another team, then. If they make you so miserable, just follow another team. Sweet Lord, it’s not that hard.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 13th, 2012
11:54 am
Only braves fan….you really like Fredi?? Really??
No, I don’t like him. Never liked his bullpen management from Florida. But do I hate him and think he is the reason for our struggles? No.
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:54 am
jeffrey d – What do you expect from someone who actually claims to be from New Jersey?
Juan
June 13th, 2012
11:54 am
MFin04
June 13th, 2012
11:50 am
What exactly did Fredi do wrong?
I don’t understand why fan here is on fredi…..That was the correct Move…Venters in the 8th & Kimbrel to close. Special when there resting…
MFin04
June 13th, 2012
11:56 am
“Livan is not a good pitcher anymore. I’m sure Fredi felt that he needed to get him some work after that many days spent”
But the 5th inning is precisely the inning you use a guy like that in. And C-Mart and Durbin could have blown up just as bad, so I’m not banking on those two as being any more “clutch” on a team that was due to breakout.
njbraves
June 13th, 2012
11:56 am
Lew….I claim to be from NJ because I am from NJ. Don’t you have an old timers activity to get to?? You’re a moron just like the rest of these fools.
keylargo
June 13th, 2012
11:56 am
OK, you know what I meant and so did I. You also had “No More Bobby” TWO years ago.
Some people rip closers, some rip position players and Bobby and Fredi have their own special group. They just changed names when the managers were changed.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 13th, 2012
11:57 am
I’m slightly positive to Fredi. Nothing to hate him over…
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
11:57 am
njbraves
My 5 year old understands baseball more than this yahoo. By far one of the most obnoxious and obtuse fans on this blog. Enjoy the Stanley Cup?
MFin04
June 13th, 2012
11:57 am
Lew – Did you see my post on the cereal?
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:57 am
Better than being a malcontented douchebag. Actually, the nj could have stood for Botorious Jerk.
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:58 am
Notorious. I can’t type. Musat be because I should be at an oldtimer’s function.
Bat Masterson
June 13th, 2012
11:58 am
I didn’t go back and read any of the venting, obviously, but maybe someone can tell me: wht did N8 have to say about things after Venters went nuke? _ scoots
N8 will not watch another inning of the Braves until Fredi is fired, but he will be coming on to the blog regularly to let his feelings be known.
You guys should really go back and read some of that stuff.
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:58 am
MF – Yep and responded to it, too.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
June 13th, 2012
11:59 am
Fredi is nothing if not consistent. In his ml career, Kimbrel has had only three appearances (6/15/10, 18/8/10 and 4/21/11) of more than one inning. All were two inning stints. Looking at the top five save leaders in both leagues this year, five of the ten pitchers (Jim Johnson, Fernando Rodney, Alfredo Aceves, Santiago Casilla and Jonathan Papelbon) have had appearances longer than one inning.Casilla has done it four times this year. Aceves has had three two-inning appearances.
But hey, Kimbrel will be nice and rested for the postseason…
Lew
June 13th, 2012
11:59 am
Or Negative Jackass.
njbraves
June 13th, 2012
11:59 am
Fredi isn’t the only one to blame, but the guy gave away two games this week. A manager needs to put his players in a position to succeed, and realize when it’s time to pull the plug. Leaving Venters in to face ARod is inexcusable.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 13th, 2012
11:59 am
there are some bloggers on here i would be cool with seeing, don’t know if nj is quite one of them….
Anyways, I’m off til l8r on.
Peace
ncscoots
June 13th, 2012
12:00 pm
but he will be coming on to the blog regularly to let his feelings be known.
Well, thank the gods for that, LOL. That ought to be mildly entertaining.
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
12:01 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-q2_zp3ah4
David O'Brien
June 13th, 2012
12:02 pm
On a bright note, at least we no longer are subjected to Automaton’s mind-numbing daily diatribes about Bobby Cox, complete with painfully unfunny barnyard humor. That alone is cause for daily celebration.
njbraves
June 13th, 2012
12:02 pm
Frankie Wren…who the hell likes hockey?? What did I say that makes you think I don’t understand baseball?? You liked the way last nights game was handled by the manager?? You’re just another ” everything is fine” idiot.
Ease
June 13th, 2012
12:02 pm
That would be BJ then?
George
June 13th, 2012
12:03 pm
jeffrey d
June 13th, 2012
11:53 am
jeffery , I truely believe you love losers. you would have really liked the early 60s METS. That black woman security person at SUN LIFE section should get a hold of you and give you a good shakeing. Please stop the love when the BRAVES LOSE.
Lew
June 13th, 2012
12:04 pm
Ease – Bobby Joe?
ncscoots
June 13th, 2012
12:04 pm
At that point, it’s pretty much Venters vs Arod or Gearrin vs Cano. Either guy is going to face an offside hitter in a high-leverage situation, regardless.
Lew
June 13th, 2012
12:05 pm
Or Boorish Jackass?
MFin04
June 13th, 2012
12:05 pm
“Bobby Cox, complete with painfully unfunny attempts at barnyard humor.”
It was the ONLY legit explanation for why Greg Norton was still hitting in every meaningful game for almost a whole season.
ncscoots
June 13th, 2012
12:06 pm
What did I say that makes you think I don’t understand baseball??
Loaded question.
Juan
June 13th, 2012
12:06 pm
It College Football season yet?….
Lew
June 13th, 2012
12:06 pm
As opposed to a nothing is right or ever will be idiot?
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
12:07 pm
njbraves- dude I understand your negativity, your from jersey man.
Your one of those guys if Minor was left out and same results, retort would have been ”
why not Venter’s there?. Same moronic responses from you daily.
Frankie Wren
June 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
Sure Jersey is a fine place to live with good people ouside of this tool.
njbraves
June 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
Lew….whatever old man. Go paint a picture of good ole Vermont you dumb hick.