2:37 pm June 12, 2012, by David O'Brien
Nationalmania is gonna run wildonu
June 13th, 201212:23 am
Haha, looks like we are gonna move on up, and the Braves are, well just bad.
@Dirtybirdsin12: or stoned.
CraZy n FL
June 13th, 201212:24 am
I was looking at facebook and saw the headline…. Braves trade for Dempster… I got excited and then after i clicked the link i saw the whole title of the article. Just a little disapointed!
June 13th, 201212:25 am
wouldn’t matter if the Braves got Dumpster,Garza, and Halladay, they still would beat the NATS!
Ah, okay. I thought we had talked about Pensacola and the Blue Wahoos.
I was gonna say I hope you brought a boat. They have been flooded with rain the past few days.
June 13th, 201212:26 am
June 13th, 201212:28 am
Updated GAME STORY with MANY QUOTES
June 13th, 201212:29 am
Posting from a phone is a pain!!!
Oh please. I did the whole grocery store exhibitionist bit from my phone.
You gotta be dedicated
June 13th, 201212:30 am
So… Will they replace Minor or did he earn another start?? Intrested to see WTF Frank will do? I predict a 6 man rotation… I hope not but i wouldnt put it past frank and fred!!
June 13th, 201212:31 am
still think they should ask billy wags to come in and take a look at one of venters side sessions. he spent a lot of time down in the pen with JV. venters attributed much of his success to wags mentoring.
could not hurt. right?
Bay Area Steve
June 13th, 201212:32 am
“I did the whole grocery store exhibitionist bit”
What was that, ‘08? This is a what’ve you done for me lately world. Gimme some neighbor stuff. Make it up, if necessary…
June 13th, 201212:33 am
BAS, I love ya, man, but I admit I liked Tropic Thunder, especially the Director’s Cut. Downey, Jr. and Tom Cruise (who I normally do not like) are hilarious. Laughing is good medicine for many things including a blog infested with trolls and idiots, of which we have too many. I just can’t take the ingame banter…it’s a big waste of time, IMHO.
June 13th, 201212:34 am
“could not hurt. right?”
F’n A. Never seen a guy with such extremes. It’s hard not to think shoulder, after last month…
June 13th, 201212:35 am
Bat… Your right, heading down there later this year!!!
June 13th, 201212:37 am
Well, ken, now I’m really gonna try. Both you and noles…
I went in skeptical, and that’s not fair to the film. I’ll try again later. I’ve come to realize, and least with my own thoughts, that a viewer’s gotta be in the right mind.
Now, ‘OB rec’n Elegy I can never forgive, however unclothed Penelope Cruz may have appeared.
June 13th, 201212:39 am
I gotta go shave my balls and watch some Wonder Years reruns.
June 13th, 201212:42 am
You know what I hate; is when people start talking about movies and music and all this other nonsense after a heartbreaking loss..That’s what’s wrong with this city. You need to talk about the Braves and nothing but the Braves. Anybody posting about anything else should be banned and their IPS address reported.
I blame DOB
June 13th, 201212:45 am
The problem with this city is that people don’t let a loss in a 162 game season ruin their days?
There you go, BAS…The Wonder Years from back when life was good and your biggest problem was impressing Winnie Cooper, the pretty girl down the street. Maybe today you will steal a kiss or a hug and become a BMOC, because that is what is important.
when its sleepy time down south…
June 13th, 201212:46 am
It’s not traffic, pollution, unemployment, and lack of public transportation?
June 13th, 201212:47 am
I’ve been imitated, for only the second time. It’s despicable and courageous, simultaneously!
08? Hell nah, man. That was last fall, after the tourist were gone, but before the collapse was completed.
If we don’t put Medlen into the rotation after all this, then we have just witnessed roster mismanagement at its finest.
June 13th, 201212:48 am
I would marry Winnie Cooper, right now. And, this is no imposter.
June 13th, 201212:50 am
I’m gonna run; not a fan of the impostors. If VJ stops by, well… Nevermind. Won’t happen.
On second thought, she’s probably been around the block a few too many times. I think I’ll marry Fred Savage. He looks a little tighter.
June 13th, 201212:51 am
A frontline pitcher or slugger would be nice, but our biggest needs appear to be a good bat off the bench and a reliable reliever. Durbin has been lights out for most of the season… I think he deserves to pitch the 8th and Venters demoted for a while to a mop-up role.
If someone had’ve told us yesterday that after 7 innings today Sabathia would’ve given up 4 runs and Minor none, they probably would’ve been committed. The frustrating thing is to get into a good winning position so late in the game in what appeared a mismatch at the start of the day… and to lose… what can you say? Oh f*^&%$^%$$&***(!
The A Bomb
June 13th, 201212:52 am
I had to leave the house for a couple of hours to cool off.
Good gawd Gonzalez will never be associated with King Midas in any way, shape or form.
This team needs an ass-kicker — immediately.
June 13th, 201212:53 am
Keyon: the other stuff helps us deal with a heartbreaking loss and that loss will be turned everywhich way but loose, but it is what it is…a loss. You have to move on and pull for the team to get it together and play better and hope each player plays to their capabilities. We have a team that can contend this year if everyone plays their best everyday, and that seems to be hard to acheive.
June 13th, 201212:55 am
If someone had’ve told us yesterday that after 7 innings today Sabathia would’ve given up 4 runs and Minor none, they probably would’ve been committed
Yeah, I thought it was great, one of the things I love about baseball. Damn shame the game got away the way it did.
June 13th, 20121:10 am
Winnie Cooper grew up to be about a 6 or 7, but she also became a real math genius and got a big time degree from Harvard, I think. She wrote several popular “Math for everybody” type books, and she is still acting. She a very smart girl, still looks good, but in an odd way. I just hooked up with my Winnie Cooper from my childhood a year ago, but she was already sick and we didn’t know it until it was too late. We did have a few months together,but after a lifetime of looking for each other, I wanted more and longer, but it wasn’t to be. I am grateful for every second we had and since all this happened exactly a year ago, I am reliving all the moments each day. This Blog can be a refuge from real life at times, so it is a multi-purpose blog. There are several folks on here who really made a difference this time last year and I hope I have personally thanked them all, because I will never forget their kindness and compassion. Anyway, The Wonder Years always reminded me of myself and my own Winnie Cooper, and it was a great show about teen angst and Junior High when you didn’t have a clue about girls and how to act. Plus the music was perfect.
June 13th, 20121:21 am
I remember all that, ken. Bittersweet I guess, glad you are okay now.
June 13th, 20121:32 am
Hello everyone! Braves did it again……Don’t expect Frank to do any thing.He’s too High Almighty, and to far into his own BS to realize anything? Expect a long game tomorrow too, and Frank unwilling to do a thing.
June 13th, 20121:34 am
Bat, thank you a lot, the way it turned out has made it very hard to remember the good times we had growing up and those were the precious memories that we clinged to for 40 years. Bittersweet is a very apt way to put it, because I never want to lose those wonderful memories we made when we were kids.
Same Frank Wren…. Every thing is O.K. , and counting on two Rookies to be the savior of the team. Delgado, and Minor.
June 13th, 20121:44 am
40 years, long time, no time at all………. I was just reading something about Ali MacGraw, Love Story was 42 years ago. God she was lovely to look at.
June 13th, 20121:46 am
I had a bad feeling about tonights game, and a bad one for tomorrow. Braves Can’t beat the good teams right now, and the same trend will contiue, unless Wren does some thing. I expect a long two weeks, sad, but true……..
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 13th, 20121:47 am
I didn’t like the Fredi hire either….still don’t. I could see what he was thinking tonite…..take Minor out and preserve his confidence…..However……he knew EOF was unavailable when he made that move and Venters has been a 50/50 proposition at best this year……….knowing all the facts I give Minor one or two more hitters and maybe then go Durbin to bridge to the 9th and Kimbrell. I am not sure Gonzalez has the baseball acumen to figure out anything besides a one step move…..I am sure he sucks at chess……but he probably plays checkers………Selah (RIP Furman Bischer)
June 13th, 20121:49 am
I had a pretty good feeling about tonights game, Ward. But then, poof, it was gone, over the left field wall.
I was kind of hoping Venters would walk Rodriguez.
Agree with Nolie earlier that Medlen needs to stay in the pen……..freakin’ Buddy Carlyse would be an upgrade over Livian at this point……
June 13th, 20121:50 am
June 13th, 20121:51 am
Well, that’s two out of three games the manager just gave away. Sure, we still could have lost had we tried some unconventional “SABRE guy stuff”. But we’ll never know now, will we?
June 13th, 20121:53 am
Appreciate you continuing to man the blog with good cheer despite all the vitriole. The Braves deserve some of it, but certainly you don’t… you are simply the beat writer doing the best he can to get us the info we desire, and providing your opinion. I think the great majority of the bloggers get that… only a few knuckleheads don’t!
June 13th, 20121:55 am
Bat – Glad I didn’t see the game, I would’ve been in tears……
June 13th, 20121:56 am
DOB wrote: Braves lost for the first time in 29 games when leading after six innings, and first time in 28 games when leading after seven.
Remarkable stat. Certainly doesn’t feel that way. A good reminder to all of us… and especially to those who’ve been calling the Braves chokers… this stat certainly doesn’t support this belief.
June 13th, 20121:58 am
Well, the Braves leading in the eighth inning you like your chances. Minor stepped up tonight, pitched a damn good game.
June 13th, 20121:59 am
Bat – Do you keep Minor after tonight?
June 13th, 20122:00 am
That”s true, Bravo, even with all the flux in the bullpen the Braves have closed down games all year somehow.
June 13th, 20122:02 am
Probably so, Ward. I was leaning that way before tonight. Could have used Medlen in the bullpen the last few days.
June 13th, 20122:03 am
Impostor, be damned!
Fear not, fans! I’m gonna’ pick up Kyle Farnsworth for the stretch run. That pennant is as good as ours!
June 13th, 20122:05 am
Venters – 15 day dl?
I’ll ask the peanut gallery to kindly hold their ‘can’t dl’ responses.
June 13th, 20122:06 am
Also might I add, that most of the Braves wins have come off of so, and so teams, and The Braves Lost to Reds good pitching. Lost to the Yankees good pitching, and lost to the Phillies earlier with good pitching, and not a healthy team. Struggled against the Nats, and thier good pitching. I think that’s a sign of where the Braves are heading.Don’t like the looks of it.
I was a few pages behind reading the blog when Venters blew up, and thought, well this should take the focus off the Heyward/Diaz debate.
June 13th, 20122:08 am
Yeah… despite the BP’s struggles, they’ve delivered most of the time when it’s mattered. Tonight leaves a bitter taste in everyone’s mouths. Somehow, as Chipper says, we all gotta let it go and move on to tomorrow and hope we have better luck.
June 13th, 20122:09 am
Who knows about Venters. I think the “he’s better when he works more” might have been in play tonight. But then again I don’t recall how much he has pitched lately.
June 13th, 20122:10 am
Can we DL Fredi?
June 13th, 20122:12 am
Wren, needs to make a trade, or two, some call ups, and some send downs……
June 13th, 20122:15 am
You’re right about Brava, BAS. She has not dogged Heyward this year. Though I think she’s wrong about him being mediocre, or easy to replace.
June 13th, 20122:17 am
At least the Heat lost to Thunder……..All, talk tomorrow maybe, or not? Playing the Yankees sucks!!!!!!! Braves are going to have to find a way to beat the good teams. Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
June 13th, 20122:27 am
“easy to replace”
It’s a simple truth, really. If Heyward doesn’t become a star, a perennial All-Star, this franchise is in trouble. I get Brava; she don’t care about might, or maybe, or could be. She wants results.
It’s hard to argue. I guess I’d say results in the Bigs are hard. Very few even have the potential. Heyward’s got it. Right now, maybe it doesn’t look like much. But, this franchise needs Jason Heyward to become a star.
June 13th, 20122:28 am
And, that’s courage, bitches.
June 13th, 20122:29 am
Ain’t nothing physically wrong with Venters. He pitched a great inning on Monday night. As a matter of fact, he has not allowed a run in his last 6 outings; though I don’t know if he allowed any inherited runners or not.
Sometimes these guys just don’t have it. Fredi did leave him in 1 batter too long though. What kills me is how it seems that sometimes these managers are more worried about getting the closer in the perfect save situation than actually putting the right pitcher in at the right moment.
I’d of had Kimbrel ready and he would have pitched to A-Rod. If he couldn’t go the entire 5 outs for the save, then bring in somebody else to finish it off in the 9th.
I blame all this on Tony LaRussa and Dennis Eckersley. 1 inning wonder body from the 80’s.
I love that I can say bitch.
Like for McFann, not so much. But, c’mon. Bitches.
June 13th, 20122:32 am
For the guy callin’ me no courage: Bitch!
Wayne, how can you abandon the McCann-deal after two doubles? C’mon, man!
June 13th, 20122:33 am
Yeah, we’ve seen Heyward produce in the Big Leagues already. Last year threw a big wet blanket over that though. He’s been great in the field and on the bases this year, inconsistent at the plate. Still he has come through big some and I don’t think he is far off. I’m hoping by the last couple of months there’s no way in hell Fredi leaves his name out of the lineup.
June 13th, 20122:34 am
We ALL want Heyward to be that star. But he’s only 22 years old right now. And last year he was hurt. He might never be the next Barry Bonds or Carlos Beltran, but he has the potential to be very good.
I just don’t understand the impatience with many on these young players. Just because they are up in the bigs doesn’t mean they are going to be at their full potential in the first year or two.
And yes, I think we are going to be in real trouble if he doesn’t quite pan out.
Baseball, long term requires a helluva lot of patience if you don’t have the payroll of some of the large market teams.
June 13th, 20122:38 am
I have a secret for you…….. I am not all that superstitious.
Last year, I blame most of his struggles on the shoulder. Not all, but most. I had shoulder issues that went on for almost 2 years, and I had NO structural damage. Tendonitis can be extremely hard to conquer, and the shoulder affects just about every movement you make.
A guy cannot violently swing at a baseball the same way with a hurting, inflammed shoulder.
June 13th, 20122:40 am
I hope Fredi G wins manager of the year, right after we win the World Serious this fall. But I gotta tell you, I really think he is a substandard manager. Maybe I’ve been spoiled by BC all these years, but he frustrates the hell out of me sometimes. (and I didn’t always agree with everything Bobby did either)
June 13th, 20122:41 am
3-4 post in a row means I’m talking to myself, or that you guys fell asleep at the keyboard.
June 13th, 20122:42 am
I think trying to compensate for the shoulder last year, and maybe bulking up too much, screwed up his swing last year, too. Even so, they still wanted to tweak his 2010 swing to elevate the ball more. Not an easy thing to do.
June 13th, 20122:43 am
If I’m the devil’s advocate:
Stars don’t need time. They don’t get uncertain, minor injuries. They certainly don’t blame any shortcomings on barely-documented shoulder discomfort.
To be certain, I’m the biggest Heyward fan in the room, until Mr. Courage tells me otherwise. But, I know a lot of fans. I know how a Brava thinks. We’re three years in. Guy’s gotta produce.
It’s like this: Heyward shows up. Soon. Or, he ain’t it. Guy went deep first-day for a reason. It’s in him.
June 13th, 20122:46 am
Back for a second – DS1 Braves are not that good yet! Even I can see it now! Would I like the Braves to make it? Hell Yes! My friend it’s not happening, because of our Gm, is unwilling to make any deals. Sad, but true……. Peace Out…….”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
June 13th, 20122:48 am
He seems like an intelligent young man. If he’s teachable, he’ll probably be all that we are hoping in the long run. But I have been thrilled with his play in the field overall this year. And the hitting seems to be settling in some now.
But I am a patient fan.
BTW, I am holding onto my uranium shares for the long term. I think it might take 2-3 years, but I expect the supply/demand situation to benefit me long term.
June 13th, 20122:50 am
A guy like Bat. A known thinker, here. He’s been watchin’ His last six weeks here are worthy of a frickin’ Guggenheim assesor.
Heyward’s changing. He’s evolving. Give him time. It’s in him. And, if it ain’t, we really oughta think the Pirates…
June 13th, 20122:51 am
Gimme summa dat sweet kool-aid……please.
That’ll take some of the sting outta this……….right?
72 -90 Believe it suckers!!!!!!!!!!
June 13th, 20122:52 am
I haven’t looked in lately. What’s the deal with that asset sell? You get shares in the other company, 1.06 for one or something?
June 13th, 20122:59 am
Ha, I don’t know about all that but I’ll say thanks, man.
June 13th, 20123:00 am
Too many of today’s baseball fans are a bleed over from the football fans. Every game is huge. Every AB important. Now, I’m not saying that every AB and game are not important, but I understand that sometimes this stuff takes time.
Too many times we have seen teams give up on guys, and they end up flourishing elsewhere.
I call it the SEC/Fantasy Fan syndrome. Traditional baseball takes time and sometimes years to develop.
I was in the Bay Area when Will Clark hit the scene in 1986 and hit a homer off Nolan Ryan in his first big league AB. The next year he was KILLING the ball. A star! This was what I was expecting from Heyward. But maybe instead, he’s going to be more like Matt Williams, who took 3 years to figure it all out (or discover the PED’s???). Hard to know from that era.
I pulled for the Giants back in the day. (was still a Braves fan 1st) I actually spoke with Matt W on a radio show one night, when he was hitting around .200 and struggling mightily. I reminded him that night of Mike Schmidt’s first year in the majors, when he hit .196; and how he eventually found his game and is now a Hall of Famer. Matt seemed to be grateful for the call. I like to think I helped in some small way to help him pick himself up that year. The next year, he started to turn things around in a big way.
I have patience for Jason.
June 13th, 20123:01 am
You know what, Mixxo. I’m happy for the dog.
June 13th, 20123:06 am
To be honest, with my son’s wedding and the other son visiting, I haven’t really been following it.
We will have to go 38-62 to get to 72-90. That’s a .380 from here on out. Fredi doesn’t survive the summer with that record.
I’m calling it 88-74. But then again, I am the kool aid king!
June 13th, 20123:07 am
Got a wake up call in 6 hours. Later folks.
June 13th, 20123:09 am
I hear what you’re saying, DS1. I do. I’m an 80’s Giants Bandwagoner. I mean, my formative years were all about Candlestick success.
We’re year three. It needs to happen, and it needs to happen now. He looks different this year, sure. Lunging less, hands-inside more. All that.
Regardless, if guy doesn’t start looking Chipper-like, soon, he never will be.
June 13th, 20123:14 am
The courage it takes. I mean, I’m a .18 right now, and I’m in it. That’s BAC math. Even Shaun don’t know about that.
If I said this, to anybody here, how’d you respond:
“You’re too big of a coward to converse with me when I am on the blog…”
June 13th, 20123:17 am
You know you’ve already won that, right.
June 13th, 20123:22 am
I have a good ‘lil buzz on (not .18 maybe) but, still good. Too tired to converse tho.
As long as you aren’t driving…..we’re good.
June 13th, 20123:23 am
Wayne – save me a glass o’ that. I’ll try anything these days. We suck!
June 13th, 20123:26 am
As much as I’ve come to realize your posts are as welcome as anybody’s, please allow my inebriation. It’s all I know. It’s the only courage I know. How will my nemesis ever respond if I can’t show this courage?
June 13th, 20123:42 am
Your inebriation is totally allowed. Your courage needs no response…. any nemesis should know.
Carry on my friend…..I’ma call it a night. To winning ways and g’night.
June 13th, 20125:43 am
What a shocker, this particular Braves Vent … er, blog … drew over 2,100 comments in about 12 hours.
Thanks for your participation and vitriol.
June 13th, 20125:44 am
I blame DOB — Keyon
As well you should. Always important to blame someone.
June 13th, 20125:46 am
DOB…and that’s was the only question????Please, something wrong with you…where are you during the game???Hello…the Atlantas fan need more from you to put all this trash out of the game (the manager and all his couch staff)…..I hope….. — TOMY FOURNIER
That about says it all.
June 13th, 20125:59 am
DOB…where are you???…just to comment about ARod record!!!…Come on man …said something about your friend manager donkey monkey Gonzalez…you are a Sport comentator…said something about this “MORON” COX PORTRAIT…be with the Fans…you know better…make noise…do something…make comments about all this idiots….!@##@@%%$$$!!!! — TOMY FOURNIER at 10:05
At 10:05 p.m., this “sport comentator” was busy scrambling to completely rewrite his game story and file it as soon as the last pitch was thrown, so it would make it into tomorrow’s paper. See, because that’s really an essential part of what I do as a beat reporter — I write a game story with details of the game, for the newspaper. Or, I could spend the 20 minutes between the two Yankees home runs in the eighth inning and the end of the game ripping the manager on a blog and explaining to some of you rational folks why the pitching decisions were made in the eighth inning, without actually talking to the manager and asking him why, for instance, Eric O’Flaherty was used.
But I wouldn’t expect you to understand any of what I actually get paid to do. So I hope you slept well and got it all out of your spleen, so you can go and do you own job today. Where do you work, by the way? I want to go there and make ridiculous comments to you about how to do your job, and act all indignant as if I know more about how to do your job than you do — you know, without actually having any idea what actually goes into doing your job.
June 13th, 20126:02 am
DOB is a scared little boy. He would never dare ask pointed questions to Fredi. LOL
June 13th, 20126:16 am
The blog comments seem to have become a bit more pointed these days.
June 13th, 20126:44 am
At least the headline to the blog was changed…
Can’t be all negative…
June 13th, 20126:49 am
I don’t get all the hate for DOB… he does a great job.
DOB I love you and you do a great job! Thank you sir.
June 13th, 20126:51 am
DOB…I would be curious to know if FG even for a split second thought about bringing in Kimbrel to pitch against Arod? I’m not faulting FG for bringing in Venters to pitch the 8th but if you do that given Venters struggles this season…he should have had Kimbrel warming up just in case Venters falters. Just my opinion. The 8th inning last night was the 9th inning.
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