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Darryl Blackberry
June 12th, 2012
9:51 pm
I guess Fredi is only a good manager with subpar teams. When he’s got a classy organization and a good team on the field to manage, he becomes absurdly optimistic. That attitude might have worked with Durbin in recent weeks, but it’s certainly backfiring with Jonny.
LOL
June 12th, 2012
9:51 pm
BOYCOTT THE BRAVES! DO NOT GO TO GAMES! DO NOT GO ON THIS BLOG TO POST! SPREAD THE WORD!
njbraves
June 12th, 2012
9:51 pm
Sad thing is, nothing will change. Dumb Fredi will still be the manager and that waste Venters will be right back out there.
Mister Frisky
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
Fire this tool now!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
Come on, David!…
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
I am tired of how Matt Chernoff, John Kincaide and the whole 680 crew are such suck ups and apologists for Fredi.
Nothing is his fault. We have crap for sports talk in this city.
Juan
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
Those men let in scoring position early…..
O.J.
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
Captain Hook did it again.
Busch Leaguer
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
Let the June Swoon begin , this type of loss will take the heart right out of a team. Second Guessing will surely begin and Fredo has brought it on himself with his lame decision making in close games. Kimbrel should have been ready to bring in against A-roid ,That was the deciding at bat in the ballgame.Martinez or Fattboy Hernandez could have pitched the damn 9th.
frediCANTmanage
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
glad to see my fellow fans agree that fredi is the worst manager ever…..the only good thing about not doing well this season is fredi will be canned by wren.
he could not manage a little league bullpen. has been horrible at that since day1.
where can we start the fire fredi campaign? sign me up
Big Yank
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
We need a guy named Sherman just for good measure.
Slide J-Hey
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
Where did DOB go?
kevkat
June 12th, 2012
9:52 pm
If you think this possible loss is sickening..wait till you read FG’s comments afterwards
Andrelton Simmons
June 12th, 2012
9:53 pm
WHY WOULD ANYONE PUT GEARRIN IN DURING A 4-4 GAME IN THE 8TH??? HE JUST GOT CALLED UP A FEW DAYS AGO AND FREDI G PUTS HIM IN TO FACE THE YANKEES IN A TIED GAME IN THE 8TH??????? WORST MANAGER IN THE MAJORS
N8
June 12th, 2012
9:53 pm
And for those wanting to blame Venters. Blame Wren and Fredi instead.
Wren didn’t bother giving Fredi any other options last year other than the “big three”. Or even more offense so he wasn’t forced to bring them in so often.
But face facts people. Venters inability to get guys out this year is DIRECTLY related to being overused to no end by Bobby in 2010 and the Fredi last year.
Ridiculous.
Fredi just might be the WORST manager in baseball. Been saying it for months. I’m actually happy he’s proving me right. Hopefully he’ll be gone by this time tomorrow.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 12th, 2012
9:53 pm
Curses…
TBbravesfan.
June 12th, 2012
9:53 pm
they have big pops we have little pops.
Jake W.
June 12th, 2012
9:53 pm
still will be a top ten team if they win tomorrow. Two losses to the Yanks is literally no big deal
It really isn’t. This pen makes me nervous though. JV just isn’t looking good, hope Frankie is looking for some help.
sirluciouscp
June 12th, 2012
9:53 pm
nothing to say about ur favorite manager ha DOB?
cabravesfan
June 12th, 2012
9:54 pm
I think boycotting the blog is a brilliant idea. Y’all should get on that
Slide J-Hey
June 12th, 2012
9:54 pm
see the Yankees have a man up now..in case..Braves are happy to be close.
kevkat
June 12th, 2012
9:54 pm
Hey, we do have one of our home run hitters up…just maybe..
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
9:54 pm
They will not do anything about Fredi till at least theend of the season.
One thing for certain this team cannot perform in big moments and prolly never will. They almost bellied it up in 2010 and did belly up vs the Giants in the division series.
This group cannot do the job. So why should the fans believe in them.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 12th, 2012
9:54 pm
I officially hate that inept pile of trash Fredi Gonzalez.
kerryb
June 12th, 2012
9:54 pm
How many times did we see Bobby Cox bring the closer in in the 8th? It’s like Freddie has decided it’s more important to limit Kimbrel’s innings than to win.
TuffShhhtuff
June 12th, 2012
9:54 pm
Braves will go down now like “whipped puppies with their tails between their legs”. AND then after the game, at the post game conference, all the sportswriters and broadcasters, etc. will pretend nothing just happened, and that everything is just rosy. No matter what the excuses by FG they will be accepted as gospel, and never questioned. Then, it will happen again and again throughout the year with the Braves manager and owners doing nothing, just saying “it will be better next year”. BUT, it never is, is it? If fans demand success with their money, they usually get it. Accept mediocrity with your support and you will get that too.
The Truth Hurts
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
I wonder who will be man or woman enough to give the real reason you don’t like Fredi.
frediCANTmanage
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
if he puts kimbrell in now, i am going to throw my TV outside
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
The Braves should be Booed when they take the field tommorrow.
Rilo
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
VaBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
The blog should explode after managing to blow a 4 run lead in the 8th inning. Were at home with all the momentum and we fall apart. Then he brings in Gearrin….. Who should have been the guy to begin with. Not after all hell has broken loose and its a tie…
Juan
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
I bet Venters end up in the DL tomorrow…he is not the Same Venters of last yr.
kevkat
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
Venters in dugout..shouldnt he be allowed to go home…
George Stein
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
Nothing is his fault. We have crap for sports talk in this city.
Hate to break it to you, but sports talk sucks everywhere. It’s basically a “who can be a bigger meathead” contest. At least we don’t have Mike Francessa.
thegreatsowhat
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
You have to just tip your hat to Fredi Gonzalez, he went out and did what he does and beat us tonight.
njbraves
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
Nothing will change people. This organization is happy just to be involved…actually trying to win a WS isn’t even their radar.
tennisbrave
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
Once again, ole Fredie is one pitch too late. Venters playing like the old chokes of September 2011.
O.J.
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
Fricking Fredi G. Why did he let Teheran pitch with a 4-0 lead only to yank him with bases loaded and allowing a run, yet Minor was cruising, allowed a weak single to Jeter and he pulls him. WTF, I guarantee Minor gets out of the inning allowing maybe 1 run, if any. But no, Captain Hook yanks him and brings in Johnny Flash in the Pants Venters. I mean seriously, WTF is wrong with Venters???? Something has to be, cause he just doesnt have it this year.
N8
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
While I would have left Minor in. I understand taking him out with a healthy “big 3″ mowing guys down. Lock down the W. Fine.
But Venters should have NEVER been left in to face Arod. And Gearrin shouldn’t have been brought in there.
Hell, wasn’t Venters allowed to face one more guy after the slam?
Fredi can’t think past the moment and likely can’t count to potatoe. He’s horrible.
Not watching another game until he’s gone. But I’ll spend as much time as I have to blogging about what a POS of a manager he is. Not going to stop until he’s fired.
Del
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
If our esteemed so called mgr doesn’t watch out he is going to lose control of this team. With the decisions he made in the 8th inning today, how can he expect his players to have any respect for him? His decisions in the 8th defy logic. I only wish that when the game starts tomorrow he no longer is. sitting on the bench. DISGUSTING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
phil
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
Enter your comments here
JipWiz
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
DOB is tryimg to figure out ow to protect FG in his wrap article.
brian
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
Everybody here still wanting to platoon Ross with BMac?
TBbravesfan.
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
I get tired of getting built up by the braves to just get knocked down so many times. don’t yall.
stizz
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
N8 is 10000000% right
Continuing to run Fredi out there is a slap in the face to all of the people who invest time/resources with this club.
But its OK guys, he “led” us to a winning record last year. Bull****.
kevkat
June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
frediCANTmanage
June 12th, 2012
9:55 pm
if he puts kimbrell in now, i am going to throw my TV outside
Hey, is it a flat screen?
ncbravesfan90
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
I was wondering if Fredi would have poured salt in the wound and brought in Kimbrel here haha
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
DS1, oh I have a good job sweet cheeks.
The A Bomb
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
Problem with Gonzalez is that every bit of his managing is based on hypotheticals.
Hypothetically — Medlen can start, so we don’t have him in the bullpen and were stuck in tough righty-righty matchups.
He needs to go. Tonight.
LOL
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
Johnny Venters is a hillbilly redneck.
phil
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
Efrim
June 12th, 2012
9:45 pm
Am I the only one who still thinks we got a shot in this game? No Mo. No Robertson.
*********
no, but we don’t.
Bay Area Steve
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
The folks sayin’ Minor shouldn’t have come out are pure humor.
Yes, in hindsight, the guy with the 7 ERA should’ve been left in. You got me…
Is that mocking, or discussion?
danthebravesfan
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
I don’t understand why we have managers who s*it their britches when our starter hits the 100 pitch count. Minor was cruising. Fredi should have left him in.
I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but I wish that Fredi was a little bit more like Charlie Manuel from Philly. He has no problem leaving Halladay, Hamels, or Lee in to go the distance even if it means they throw 125 pitches in a game. Halladay had how many complete games last year??? And we had, what, TWO out of all our starters for the whole season??? Have some friggin confidence in your starters Fredi!
Mister Frisky
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
Fredi is about as popular as a turd in a hot tub.
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
Two losses to the yankees Is a big deal. This is a big moment game that they choked up and got embarrassed by the Yankee fans in the crowd.
IF this is what we have I do not want the Braves around anymore. I hate them. Hate em all.
Will settle for minor league ball, do not want this .
LOL
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
Johnny Venters was probably thinking about sleeping with his sister while he was busy throwing into the ground.
Darryl Blackberry
June 12th, 2012
9:57 pm
By any chance does Ted Turner have a rich son who can buy/run this team? ; )
tristan
June 12th, 2012
9:58 pm
Time for a closed door meeting without Fredi. This is why they pay you the big bucks Chipper. Be the leader and have the meeting. Then go in Fredi’s office and you inform him what is going to happen in the game. He needs help bad.
LakeDawg
June 12th, 2012
9:58 pm
I look for about 4 runs fron the Yankees in the top of the 9th.
kevkat
June 12th, 2012
9:58 pm
Venters is a Headcase
June 12th, 2012
9:47 pm
Good question.Where IS EOF?
Somewhere thanking God he didn’t give up the lead this time
McSopheee
June 12th, 2012
9:58 pm
Well said, lowercase phil.
Jerry
June 12th, 2012
9:58 pm
still will be a top ten team if they win tomorrow. Two losses to the Yanks is literally no big deal…nolie
In reality nolie, you are correct. But it’s the way this game was loss that kills me. If the Braves lost like they did last night, I wouldn’t give too shyts, but this is feels bad.
One Big Dummy
June 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
@nolie – All 162 games are EQUALLY a big deal! Maybe we should get a participation ribbon after the game?
Tomahawk Mafia
June 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
I bet Martinez allows two more here in the 9th to put this game on ice.
JasonInFL
June 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
This game is an absolute disgrace.
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
“I get tired of getting built up by the braves to just get knocked down so many times. don’t yall.”
@TB Braves fan — You got that right.
I am glad I am not at the stadium tonight.
D
June 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
WOW! Membership in the ABEOC(Atlanta Braves Eternal Optimists Club) just decreased by the most ever, 9,765. Strangely enough, membership in the ABEPC(Atlanta Braves Eternal Pessimists Club) just increased by the same number. Great night for a membership drive.
Jake W.
June 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
The blog should explode after managing to blow a 4 run lead in the 8th inning. Were at home with all the momentum and we fall apart. Then he brings in Gearrin….. Who should have been the guy to begin with. Not after all hell has broken loose and its a tie…
Gearrin is never “the guy”, a lefty was coming up so he brought in the lefty who breezed through some of their better hitters last night. EOF i’m guessing is not available. Pen outside of Kimbrel has been up and down all year. Until the pen is upgraded or our guys start throwing more CG’s expect the inconsistencies.
sid
June 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
sad ole Braves…..getting schooled by the Yankees again…..so sad.
kerryb
June 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
We’ll be lucky to go .500 the next 2 weeks.
LOL
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
DOB is a scared little boy. He would never dare ask pointed questions to Fredi.
cabravesfan
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
Repeating your comment will not get you a response
njbraves
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
Anyone who says losing this game isn’t a big deal, is a compete moron. How many games do they have to give away before things become a big deal??
PA Brave
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
FIRE FFG NOW!
Darryl Blackberry
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
Anything short of “Eric has been nursing a sore elbow” will be epic fail in the post-game FG comments.
brian
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
This is a game that the braves really need to dig deep and rally to win. Heads seem to be hanging right now – completely deflated.
We have Prado, McCann, and uggla in the 9th. Time to put the rally cap on
VaBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
This is not good, all this happening in our own house… Just wait til we go to New York….
jerry
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
Don’t you people get it? Bobby couldn’t beat them either. The Braves will never be able to compete with the Yankees year in and year out. They just don’t have the money. The Yankees probably make more money on the side than the Braves do on attendance.
Cap: Where's My Tip
June 12th, 2012
10:00 pm
why some people are attacking DOB is beyond me, without him these blogs don’t happen and you don’t get to spew your garbage
kerryb
June 12th, 2012
10:01 pm
I bet Sorriano is itching to get in there against the Braves.
The Truth Hurts
June 12th, 2012
10:01 pm
Never seen a manager receive so much hatred. Cox was notorius for leaving pitchers out because he didn’t want to ruin their confidence. I wonder what makes Fredi so different.
ab initio
June 12th, 2012
10:01 pm
“You have to just tip your hat to Fredi Gonzalez, he went out and did what he does and beat us tonight.”
Beauty.
You win the Internet.
Disgusted
June 12th, 2012
10:01 pm
I do not think Fredi will last beyond this yr if they do not at least win the division series.
He can’t.
nolie
June 12th, 2012
10:01 pm
I understand taking him out with a healthy “big 3″ mowing guys down. Lock down the W. Fine.
But Venters should have NEVER been left in to face Arod. And Gearrin shouldn’t have been brought in there…n8
man it is so embarrassing to agree with N8…., but I just gotta this time
LOL
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
Expect the Braves to lose 8 games in a row and David O’Brien to kiss Fredi’s behind.
stizz
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
“still will be a top ten team if they win tomorrow. Two losses to the Yanks is literally no big deal”
This makes me sick to my stomach. Stop selling the Braves short. The talent is there. It was there last year. With any type of competent manager this is easily the best team in the NL and probably baseball. Its sickening that our own fans can accept this defeatist attitude.
Darryl Blackberry
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
Would love to see the Braves rally against Soriano, after all the saves he blew when he was on our side.
Joe 12-Pack
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
This is more than just another loss. This is going to psychologically bring the team down.
Just wait til next week when the team visits Yankee Stadium and Fenway.
Expect a lot of L’s in the near future.
LAG
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
kerryb – How many times did we see Bobby Cox bring the closer in in the 8th? It’s like Freddie has decided it’s more important to limit Kimbrel’s innings than to win.
Truth be told, not as often as you insinuate. Peña, Wohlers, Reitsma, Kolb, Wickman, Gonzalez, Soriano, Smoltz, Wagner… usually not seen until the 9th.
Yes, I pulled out Kolb and Wickman.
McSopheee
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
Are lowercase jerry and uppercase Jerry the same person?
O.J.
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
Bay Area Steve, are you really that big of a moron?? Leave Minor in and the worst that happens is he gives up a 2 run homer to the next guy, then he brings Venters in with a 2 run lead, and he at least let Minor try to get out of it.
kerryb
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
Martinez is getting them out. Why didn’t Freddie bring him instead of Gearrin. He was warming up with Gearrin at the time
SRF
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
stay tuned for another 8 losses in a row…
ncbravesfan90
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
“I do not think Fredi will last beyond this yr if they do not at least win the division series”
I’d say not past the all star break. He just got flat out embarrassed tonight.
jt
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
Different day SOS!! Don’t you wish you were in the locker room and Freddie asked “Well what would you have me do” like he did the other night!
Think we could come up with some answers for the dumb ass???
cabravesfan
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
Cap: Where’s My Tip-
Isn’t it obvious? DOB doesn’t get in Fredi’s face and DEMAND answers to “tough” questions and FORCE an answer out of him…you know, like all the reporters do in New York
iTiSi
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
AS, you expect too much from DOB, who is a card-carrying member of FGs “Dugout Club”. He is probably already down there consoling him now. There is only one writer, JS, who tells it like it is when needed, and asks the hard questions. I would imagine he is already banned from the press conferences, however.
N8
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
BAS it’s relative. Minor was cruising and in control. With a 4-0 lead, one baserunner spells the end of the night?
Yet when the guy who seemingly can’t get anybody out for the past two months has the bases loaded in a 4-0 game is left out there?
Where’s the consistency.
Had Fredi had a short leash with Venters, I don’t think people would be as upset about yanking Minor. I wouldn’t be. I get it.
But no way should Venters A) been the one to come into that game. B) Been left out there to face Arod. C) been left in for one more batter AFTER the Arod slam.
Fredi has lost his mind. He’s a baffoon. This team will NEVER win a playoff series with Fredi G as the manager. It’s that simple.
If youre content with being “in the picture” of the playoff hunt? Fine. He might be your guy. There just might be enough talent to win despite his managing faults.
But to rely on him to lead a team where they want to be? Not a chance.
Ask the Marlins.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 12th, 2012
10:02 pm
Other than the poor pitching of Venters and Gearrin, and the ineptitude of Fredi Gonzalez, that inning might have been different if the Braves had better defenders at 2b and 3b. The singles by Jeter and Granderson barely sneaked through the infield. Had the infielders made those plays, everything would be fine. I still blame Fredi for bad decisions, but the infield defense was partly to blame there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 12th, 2012
10:03 pm
I’m sure it’s already been stated by many, but I was disappointed by Fredi G. today. He just broke our streak of undefeated when leading after 6 & 7, if the score holds. This game has thrown me for a loop.
back to my corner…