Braves seem unlikely to trade for Dempster or other front-line pitcher

Could the Braves use another proven, durable, steady veteran in their starting rotation before the trade deadline, a guy like, say, Ryan Demspter? Absolutely they could. One could even argue they need such a pitcher, given that two out of five days they are turning to inexperienced and still-erratic youngsters Mike Minor and Randall Delgado.

Sure the Braves could use Ryan Dempster, who is being shopped by the Cubs. But the cost would likely be prohibitive for the Braves, who also wouldn't get any compensation draft picks if he left as a free agent after the season, as per rules in the new collective barganing agreement.

Sure the Braves could use Ryan Dempster, who is being shopped by the Cubs. But the cost would likely be prohibitive for the Braves, who also wouldn't get any compensation draft picks if he left as a free agent after the season, as per rules in the new collective barganing agreement.

That can create some difficult matchups (see: Delgado vs. Yankees in Monday’s series opener, and Mike Minor vs. CC Sabathia tonight).

However, there are reasons the Braves might not be willing or able to do such a deal, beginning with the rules of the new collective bargaining agreement. Whereas under the old rules a team could have traded for a Dempster or Zack Greinke before the deadline, used them for the stretch drive and the postseason, then either signed them to an extension or let them go as free agents and reaped a couple of compensatory draft picks, the new rules eliminate the compensation for players who weren’t on a team all season.

That meant if the Braves traded for a pitcher such as Dempster, not only would they have to pay him about $5 million (the remaining portion of his salary for the last two months of the season) and probably give up a prospect or two, they also would get nothing back if he left as a free agent after the season. That’s a mighty steep price to pay, especially for a team such as the Braves that doesn’t have that much money in its budget and would have to get approval to go over budget to make such a deal, or to take some cash from next year’s budget if they’re willing to do that.

The Cubs might pay a portion of Dempster’s salary in order to get higher-quality prospects back in the trade, but that price would probably be even less appealing to the Braves, who’ve shown repeatedly in the past few years that trading top prospects for a quick fix, ala the Mark Teixeira and J.D. Drew trades years ago, is no longer part of their team-building strategy.

And while Teixeira and Drew were acquired with another year left on their contracts, theoretically to help the Braves in two playoff pushes, Dempster or Greinke or any other pending free agent would be here only for two months and the postseason, unless the Braves signed the pitcher to a pricey contract extension.

Another reason such a deal seems unlikely: There are probably going to be fewer sellers and more buyers than ever before, due to the addition of another wild card in the postseason picture. That means fewer teams are going to be far enough out of the race in July to dump key contributors. So besides Dempster, there aren’t even any other proven guys we know are going to be available, though a couple or more could materialize as we get closer to the deadline.

With more teams in wild-card contention, including teams with more money than the Braves, the Cubs might end up being able to pull off a deal – provided Dempster approves; he has 10-and-5 trade-veto rights – without eating much or any of Dempster’s remaining salary, and still get prospects in return.

Times have changed. The new CBA seems likely to make trade-deadline deals more scarce than before, and a commodity such as a proven pitcher who could be the missing piece for a solid playoff contender might be too costly for most teams to even consider pursuing.

One other reason such a deal seems unlikely for the Braves, at least at this time: They’ve got Kris Medlen getting stretched out at Triple-A to come back and start. He’s already made two of the planned three Triple-A starts, and could be in the Braves rotation before the end of the month.

That would eliminate one of the two still-developing kids from the rotation.

And there’s also Jair Jurrjens, making more than $5 million and pitching at Triple-A as he tries to work out his problems and get back to being something resembling the All-Star he was in the first half last season, instead of the pitcher who posted an unsightly 9.37 ERA in four starts this season before he was optioned to Gwinnett.

But he’s only got a 5.26 ERA and 1.430 WHIP in eight Triple-A starts, with just 25 strikeouts in 49-2/3 innings. I know he’s working on things there, but still, those are not numbers that should give anyone confidence that he’s close to being ready to come back and be an impact pitcher at the big-league level.

Still, adding Medlen to the rotation should help solidify things, provided Tim Hudson, Brandon Beachy and Tommy Hanson stay healthy. The Braves are where they are now – seven games above .500 (34-27), three games out of first place and tied with San Francisco for the wild-card lead – despite a rotation that’s been dicey after the first three spots, and despite having Chipper Jones, Brian McCann and Freddie Freeman out of the lineup for significant periods, and with subpar defensive play from the shortstop position before Andrelton Simmons’ recent arrival.

Yankees right fielder Nick Swisher took a potential home run from Brian McCann with this leaping catch Monday. (Curtis Compton photo/AJC)

Yankees right fielder Nick Swisher took a potential home run from Brian McCann with this leaping catch Monday. (Curtis Compton photo/AJC)

In other words, there is reason to believe they can be better, and little reason to think what the Braves have done so far is flukish, although Michael Bourn has surpassed expectations. The division is there for the taking, with the Nationals in first and the perennial favorite Phillies in dead last, 8-1/2 games back and losers of eight of their past 10 games, with little reason to believe they are poised to make a run anytime soon.

With an extra wild card added to the postseason tourney in each league, the Braves are in position to get back to the postseason after blowing a big wild-card lead a year ago with their September collapse. If they get in the postseason, they will only need three or, at most, four starters. And with Medlen joining the main three – Hudson, Beachy, Hanson – the Braves should have a solid rotation, again assuming health holds up.

So as the trade deadline approaches, perhaps they will pursue a pitcher. But maybe it’ll be a reliever. Much cheaper all around, and with Medlen out of the bullpen and Peter Moylan’s return still not guaranteed by any means, the Braves could use another arm to go with their main bullpen guys.

During August and September, you’d hate to see games blown because they felt compelled to use Livan Hernandez in the fifth inning of a still-winnable game.

•Tonight’s matchup: Minor vs. the Yankees’ Sabathia might seem like a mismatch at first glance. But it also does at second or third glance.

No, but seriously, Minor showed encouraging signs in his last start Thursday at Miami, holding the Marlins to one run and four hits in five innings of an 8-2 win. That after the lefty went 0-3 with a 9.08 ERA in his previous seven starts.

He’s lasted five innings or fewer in five of his past six starts.

Minor hasn’t faced the Yankees before, and has never faced a lineup quite as potent. He’s been hurt by home runs – 14 allowed in 42-2/3 innings over his past eight starts – and tonight will face a team that’s hit more homers than any other team in the majors. Ninety-three homers in 60 games for the Yanks, including 40 in 28 road games. They’ve hit 32 homers in their past 18 games, including 14 wins.

Sabathia is a relatively modest 2-3 with a 3.97 ERA in his past five starts. He’s 4-1 with a 3.75 ERA in five road starts this season.

Against the Braves, the massive lefty is 1-1 with a 3.24 ERA, but those games were in 2007 and 2008, when few current Braves were on the team. Against Sabathia, Matt Diaz is 5-for-9 and David Ross is 2-for-10 with two home runs.

While the Brave haven’t said who’ll be the odd man out when Medlen returns, I’ve got to think it’ll be Minor. Though Delgado also isn’t going deep in many games, he’s 2-4 with a solid 3.50 ERA in eight starts in May and June. The Braves scored two runs or fewer while he was in all but one of those games, including one or no runs in four of eight. They averaged 2.5 support runs per nine innings he pitched in that span.

If it’s Delgado who stays, that means tonight could possibly be Minor’s last start in the majors for a while, unless the Braves decide Medlen needs more than three starts at Gwinnett to get ready.

• Streaking Bourn: Leadoff man Bourn has hit .320 with a .903 OPS, 15 extra-base hits (six homers), 13 RBI and 22 runs in his past 29 games, including 19-for-46 (.413) with a .460 OBP during an 11-game hitting streak.

By the way, Bourn has hit a stunning .390 with a .475 OBP and .533 slugging percentage in 105 at-bats after getting ahead 1-and-0 in counts. He’s hit .261 with a .283 OBP and .403 slugging in 134 at-bats after first-pitch strikes.

BRAVES LINEUP

  1. Bourn CF
  2. Prado LF
  3. McCann C
  4. Uggla 2B
  5. Diaz RF
  6. Jones 3B
  7. Freeman 1B
  8. Simmons SS
  9. Minor P

• Etc.

Dan Uggla is up to second in the NL and third in the majors with 42 walks. He’s on pace for a career-high 108 and trails only AL Leader Adam Dunn of the White Sox and Cincinnati’s Joey Votto, each with 48. Uggla is fourth in the NL in strikeouts (68) and sixth in RBIs (41)…..

Raul Ibanez has wielded a hot bat against the Braves, including this homer that Jason Heyward tried to catch in Monday's loss to the Yankees. (Curtis Compton photo/AJC)

Raul Ibanez has wielded a hot bat against the Braves, including this homer that Jason Heyward tried to catch in Monday's loss to the Yankees. (Curtis Compton photo/AJC)

Simmons went 6-for-18 with two extra-base hits, two RBIs, a .400 OBP and three RBis in his first six games; he’s 1-for-14 with a homer, one RBI and a .133 OBP in four games since….

Yankees (and former Phillies) outfielder Raul Ibanez homered Monday and has five homers and 29 RBIs in his past 35 games against the Braves. He’s hit .359 (14-for-39) with four homers and 14 RBIs in nine games against them since last July….

The Yankees are 14-4 with a 2.82 ERA and 32 home runs in their past 18 games, including 7-1 with a freakin’ 1.63 ERA and 15 homers (40 runs) in their past eight games….

The Braves are 8-11 with a .231 batting average and 72 runs in their past 19 games, and 29 of the runs came in three games (they scored 43 in the other 16 games). That period included and eight-game losing streak and a six-game winning streak….

Sabathia has thrown at least 104 pitches in all 12 starts this season, including 112 or more in six. Delgado threw a career-high 110 pitches in five innings Monday.

OK, let’s close with some fine rock ‘n’ roll from one of the most underrated artists alive, Mark Lanegan. You can hear it by clicking here.

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“THE GRAVEDIGGER’S SONG” by Mark Lanegan

With piranha teeth
I’ve been dreaming of you
And the taste of your love, so sweet
Honest, it’s true

Through my heart flows sleep
And the dark, heavy rain
Where the gravedigger’s song is sung
You’ve been torturing me

Tout est noir, mon amour
Tout est blanc
Je t’aime, mon amour
Comme j’aime la nuit

Love, is the medicine good?
Is the crow flying eight miles high
Over wire and wood?

Shovel down six feet
With a head heavy pain
The magnolia blooms so sweet
And it fades just the same

To the stars, my love
To the sea
To the wheels, my love
‘Til they roll all over me

Oh love, I’ve been thinking of you
With razor white teeth, so sharp
Honest, it’s true

In my blood flows sleep
And the dark heavy rain
The magnolia blooms so sweet
Only torturing me

To the stars, my love
To the sea
To the wheels, my love
‘Til they roll all over me

– by David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog

2,623 comments Add your comment

Jay Dubu

June 12th, 2012
2:38 pm

You know it!!!!

unbelievable

June 12th, 2012
2:39 pm

aka…Michael Bourn

RC

June 12th, 2012
2:41 pm

DOB, thanks for not writing that McCann was “robbed” of a HR, like so many other recaps I’ve read today. From all replays, it appeared that the ball wasn’t going to quite make it over the wall, although it was certainly a well hit ball.

unbelievable

June 12th, 2012
2:42 pm

RC – you must have missed the comment directly under the Swisher photo.

ChopAttack

June 12th, 2012
2:43 pm

Heyward needs to bat higher than McCann and Freeman. Those two aren’t hitting as well, but they’re getting more at bats.

southern hope

June 12th, 2012
2:43 pm

I was at the game last night….and we can blame delgardo & the pitching staff for the 3 on the board but not for the zero next to it.

Brian from SC

June 12th, 2012
2:43 pm

Minor vs. the Yankees’ Sabathia might seem like a mismatch at first glance. But it also does at second or third glance.

LOL!!!

RC

June 12th, 2012
2:44 pm

unbelievable,

I saw it, but it at least said a “potential” HR, acknowledging that it wasn’t heading out for sure. Plus, DOB doesn’t write the photo captions (I don’t think).

southern hope

June 12th, 2012
2:45 pm

DOB: “Minor vs. the Yankees’ Sabathia might seem like a mismatch at first glance. But it also does at second or third glance.” — LOL.

RC

June 12th, 2012
2:46 pm

Heyward needs to bat higher than McCann and Freeman. Those two aren’t hitting as well, but they’re getting more at bats.

For better or worse, I think that Fredi likes to use the #3 hole to “get a hitter going”. That’s the only reason McCann would be there over Freeman. Freeman was doing great batting 3rd, then had eye trouble, scuffled, went to the bench, and was placed in the #5 hole when coming back. Not sure why he wasn’t given a chance to go back to #3.

flange1

June 12th, 2012
2:47 pm

Thanks for the new blog DOB!

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

June 12th, 2012
2:48 pm

Dangit, just gotta keep rubbin’ it in my face about that Swisher play, don’t we?… :roll: (ITS)

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief.

Braves Fan in Maine

June 12th, 2012
2:49 pm

Royals put Frenchy on the trade block!!!!!

ncscoots

June 12th, 2012
2:50 pm

I love backgammon…But live, I’m goin’ no cup. Cup’s too much work.

You are such a heathen, LOL.

reckingball

June 12th, 2012
2:50 pm

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

June 12th, 2012
2:50 pm

RC For better or worse, I think that Fredi likes to use the #3 hole to “get a hitter going”.

Too bad it doesn’t work…BMac was coming around before he got shoved into that spot…

Not sure why he wasn’t given a chance to go back to #3.

Me neither. I don’t lose any sleep over it (if you cann believe that), but it bugs the [crud] outta me…

cricket

June 12th, 2012
2:51 pm

Cubs fire hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo. Remember when so many felt he was THE ANSWER to braves’ offensive woes?

RC

June 12th, 2012
2:51 pm

Royals put Frenchy on the trade block!!!!!

I think Frenchy should go ahead and invest in a home on the trade block. In the long run its than renting one each year.

PDOG

June 12th, 2012
2:52 pm

Medlin needs to go back to the bullpen as evidenced by the game on Sunday his value will be much greater there.

Woody Woodward

June 12th, 2012
2:52 pm

I’m not one to complain about such things, DOB, but the headline “braves trade for demptster” is a bit of a heart stopper. Took me a second to read past the comma; glad it wasn’t a semi-colon.

RC

June 12th, 2012
2:53 pm

Should have said “its cheaper than renting one each year”. Stupid typos

cricket

June 12th, 2012
2:53 pm

Rememer Teixeira’s interview other day where he acknowledged yankees are home run hitting team and depend on homers but that’s ok since they have so many home run hitters. Does not bode well with Minor’s propensity to give up long balls.

Sopheee

June 12th, 2012
2:53 pm

Royals put Frenchy on the trade block!!!!!

Oh joy. How many minutes pass by before someone pines for a return here?

Braves Fan in Maine

June 12th, 2012
2:54 pm

Id rather have frenchy right now with his arm and defense than diaz and or costanze

ncbravesfan90

June 12th, 2012
2:55 pm

If the Braves want to have a fighting chance of actually being able to compete in the playoffs, or even make the playoffs, they will HAVE to acqurie a proven starting pitcher. Minor, Delgado, Teheran, Medlen, JJ, just won’t cut it as the 4 and 5 starters, just look at the numbers.

Woody Woodward

June 12th, 2012
2:55 pm

When is the Roger mcDowell bashing going to begin?

Sopheee

June 12th, 2012
2:56 pm

One whole minute.

Winner.

Braves Fan in Maine

June 12th, 2012
2:56 pm

Woody Woodward……. hopefully soon he is awful at managing this rotation

RC

June 12th, 2012
2:57 pm

Sample AJC headlines

BRAVES TRADE FOR BRAUN….isn’t going to happen

BRAVES RELEASE HEYWARD is happy with the progress he’s been making

HANSON CUT a blister on his finger. Doesn’t expect to miss a start.

Murph

June 12th, 2012
2:57 pm

I read the headline and my jaw dropped, not believing that the team had just traded for Dempster.

I was neither happy nor sad, just surprised. Then I read further and and realized that no trade had taken place… and as quickly as my mind had tried to make sense of the trade, it has just as quickly gone back to thinking about which types of cheese I like and which types I do not.

ncscoots

June 12th, 2012
2:59 pm

thinking about which types of cheese I like and which types I do not.

I’m a Gouda guy.

Bay Area Steve

June 12th, 2012
2:59 pm

Anti-Frenchy-Trade Club? I think Hillbilly’s still lookin’ for an office.

Just make sure he uses a dice cup if y’all play Yahtzee. And, then ask yourself why you’re playing Yahtzee. God, I hated that game. Stupid five-of-a-kinds.

RC

June 12th, 2012
2:59 pm

Murph,

Big fan of grated parmesan. Goes really well on a burger in place of the usual Kraft single.

ncbravesfan90

June 12th, 2012
3:02 pm

I guess trading for Dempster just makes too much sense and would be a pefect fit, I don’t know.

Murph

June 12th, 2012
3:02 pm

Gouda is good, I also dig parmesan… after watching a show the other night all about cheese I’ve realized that I’m very sheltered and know very little about cheese, at least real cheese that isn’t made by Kraft or some other mass-producer.

When I make my famous green chile cheeseburgers I use extra-sharp cheddar.

Juan

June 12th, 2012
3:03 pm

MLBTR report that DOB from AJC Dempster Trade for the Braves
WOW……April fool….oh wait is June 12

cricket

June 12th, 2012
3:04 pm

Woody Woodward – I read it the same way and was getting ready to see how Lew was going to complement Ward ;)

Brandon

June 12th, 2012
3:05 pm

DOB…first thing I read was “Braves trade for Dempster…” Nice way to grab our attention! Haha

ChucktownBrave

June 12th, 2012
3:05 pm

The Braves don’t need pitching help, they just need patience with the young guys. Oh and Simmons was robbed last night of a hit.

ncscoots

June 12th, 2012
3:05 pm

I’ve realized that I’m very sheltered and know very little about cheese, at least real cheese that isn’t made by Kraft or some other mass-producer.

You need new parties to go to, LOL.

Ease

June 12th, 2012
3:06 pm

I’m a Gouda guy.

Smoked or old?

Ease

June 12th, 2012
3:07 pm

Tonight’s lineup: Bourn 8 Prado 7 McCann 2 Uggla 4 Diaz 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Simmons 6 Minor 1

Frankie Wren

June 12th, 2012
3:07 pm

oh the pain, the pain. Still holding out for Dempster. Mortgage the bloody future, who cares about next year!!! Get Chipper a ring! FW pull a Cardinal trade that makes no sense ie Rasmus, Jackson, Patterson etc. For the love of Chipper man, make it happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Woody Woodward

June 12th, 2012
3:08 pm

Cricket, woulda been worth the price of demptster to see that!

RC

June 12th, 2012
3:09 pm

SIMMONS SENT DOWN in the bottom of the 3rd on a lineout double play to the pitcher.

HUDSON RETIRES the side with no walks or hits in the 6th.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 12th, 2012
3:09 pm

Maybe I am the only dumbass who thinks so, but this headline was a little misleading. I read it to mean that they just made a trade for Dempster and further trades for pitching are unlikely.

ncbravesfan90

June 12th, 2012
3:09 pm

“The Braves don’t need pitching help, they just need patience with the young guys.”

They need pitching help that can contribute to the Major league club in an effective way this year. Let the young guys season in the Minor leagues. There’s a NL East title to be had.

RC

June 12th, 2012
3:09 pm

Crap, messed up my bold formatting. Still practicing my AJC headlines.

Frankie Wren

June 12th, 2012
3:10 pm

Getting a ring in Atlanta is more difficult than Frodo getting to Mordor.

Ease

June 12th, 2012
3:10 pm

DOB is not the headline writer, so I doubt he cares that much…

least of the east

June 12th, 2012
3:10 pm

all they draft early almost every year are pitchers and we still don’t have enough. their scouting is overrated. Minor will prove that again tonight when he gives up at least 2 homers to Yanks.
if van Poppel had agreed to sign back in 1990, we’d have another pitching stiff on our long list. luckily, he refused and we took Chipper 1st overall.

Bay Area Steve

June 12th, 2012
3:11 pm

No platoon, huh?

ncscoots

June 12th, 2012
3:11 pm

Ease, I’m more partial to the smoked. But, truthfully, I’m pretty much a cheese slut. I’ll even eat Brie, if that’s what’s on the table. :-)

I do tend to draw the line at Kraft singles, though. Man’s got to have some pride.

David O'Brien

June 12th, 2012
3:11 pm

Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Prado LF, McCann C, Uggla 2B, Diaz RF, Chipper 3B, Freeman 1B, Simmons SS, Minor P

Brad

June 12th, 2012
3:12 pm

Would a player like Matt Garza interest the Braves? They’d have him for a year and a half before he hits free agency and would definitely solidify the rotation.

The price would be higher than a half-year rental pitcher, but the Braves have a deep farm system and the Cubs will most likely be looking to move Garza this July for prospects. The Braves have plenty of young pitching prospects to deal, Minor and Delgado included.

Frankie Wren

June 12th, 2012
3:13 pm

Yankees good possibility of getting Garza. He will help somebody as well.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

June 12th, 2012
3:14 pm

Lord in Heaven…

ncscoots

June 12th, 2012
3:14 pm

No platoon, huh?

Heyward faced every lefty in creation when he was hitting .200, he gets a few hits in June and gets splinters against lefties. Fredo has got some magical mind.

cabravesfan

June 12th, 2012
3:14 pm

Matt Diaz is 5-9 against Sabathia

Braves Fan in Maine

June 12th, 2012
3:15 pm

I dont want the braves to trade the farm for a 1-1.5 player….. still feel the pain from the tex deal

Frankie Wren

June 12th, 2012
3:15 pm

Cab with the knockout punch. Can’t fault Fredo there.

Boyd

June 12th, 2012
3:16 pm

Give me a good sharp cheese and I am happy. Throw in a laxative.

cabravesfan

June 12th, 2012
3:16 pm

Frankie Wren-

I confess I lifted that from DOB’s twitter…and he mentioned it in the blog as well

cabravesfan

June 12th, 2012
3:18 pm

And I suspect it will not be the last time that stat will have to be mentioned…

JT Grace

June 12th, 2012
3:18 pm

Looks like Frediot is back to his old tricks again. Jason has sat against LHP twice in the last week. Someone needs to remind Fredi that YOU DO NOT PLATOON A YOUNG PLAYER LIKE HEYWARD!!!!!!

If the Braves aren’t going to play Jason every day he should be traded to another team. This is ridiculous.

flange1

June 12th, 2012
3:19 pm

I would rather have Heyward.

cabravesfan

June 12th, 2012
3:19 pm

Like I was saying…

MATT DIAZ IS 5-9 AGAINST SABATHIA

ncscoots

June 12th, 2012
3:19 pm

Can’t fault Fredo there.

Sure, I can. :-)

Frankie Wren

June 12th, 2012
3:19 pm

This has been beat to death but have to revisit. JS pulled a major rock in 07. Heading for one of the worse trades of alltime. Salty and Harrison are now lighting it up.

Ahhh, who cares. Get Dempster and win for Chipper and watch the Gwinnett Braves the next 4 years.

Efrim

June 12th, 2012
3:20 pm

No platoon, huh?

Heyward faced every lefty in creation when he was hitting .200, he gets a few hits in June and gets splinters against lefties. Fredo has got some magical mind.

2 days off in the last 3 days with another off day on Thursday. Awesome.

Slide J-Hey

June 12th, 2012
3:20 pm

Thats one reason Braves should have got Oswalt….
Frenchy can go to Maine? are to *#@*
McDonell should have been fired last year..it didn’t just start Woody..where u been?
Wren did nothing since last year and now you see the results.Amen!

Bay Area Steve

June 12th, 2012
3:20 pm

“Matt Diaz is 5-9 against Sabathia”

I read the blog, and I didn’t say I disagree. If you want Diaz in, you have to sit Chipper or Heyward. I remarked because many here said a platoon wouldn’t happen. Sitting twice in a row against lefties is gettin’ awful close…

RC

June 12th, 2012
3:20 pm

Looks like Frediot is back to his old tricks again. Jason has sat against LHP twice in the last week. Someone needs to remind Fredi that YOU DO NOT PLATOON A YOUNG PLAYER LIKE HEYWARD!!!!!!

If the Braves aren’t going to play Jason every day he should be traded to another team. This is ridiculous.

Normally I’d agree, but come’on, it’s CC freakin’ Sabathia. If you are going to give Heyward a day off, now is a great time to do it.

I’m more surprised by the move to play 2 3b and no LF. Pretty unconventional Fredi :)

JT Grace

June 12th, 2012
3:20 pm

Matt Diaz is 5-9 against Sabathia

Small. Sample. Size.

Jason is the better overall player and is one of the top young players in baseball. Frediot is probably the only manager dumb enough to platoon him.

Sopheee

June 12th, 2012
3:21 pm

Still no me gusta. Too many days off, imo.

Frankie Wren

June 12th, 2012
3:21 pm

MATT DIAZ IS 5-9 AGAINST SABATHIA

MATT DIAZ IS 5-9 AGAINST SABATHIA’

MATT DIAZ IS 5-9 AGAINST SABATHIA

MATT DIAZ IS 5-9 AGAINST SABATHIA.

Forgot the point I was trying to make.

B_F 52

June 12th, 2012
3:22 pm

Eh Tu Murph ? I thought we had traded for Dempter too.
I am hoping JJ is the comeback kid and ergo our Dempster

ncscoots

June 12th, 2012
3:22 pm

Salty and Harrison are now lighting it up.

Five years later, Frankie. Five…bleepin’…years.

JT Grace

June 12th, 2012
3:22 pm

If you are going to give Heyward a day off, now is a great time to do it.

If Jason did not also miss the Ricky Romero game I would agree. This is getting awfully close to smacking of a platoon and I don’t like it one bit. It’s not good for Jason and it’s not good for the team going forward.

RC

June 12th, 2012
3:23 pm

I forgot that Heyward sat Sunday. Yeah, Fredi might be doing Fredo things again….

cabravesfan

June 12th, 2012
3:23 pm

Ok, you want a larger sample size?

Career vs. lefties:

Heyward: .221
Diaz: .328

Slide J-Hey

June 12th, 2012
3:23 pm

cabravesfan..5-9 don’t mean shi# as for him getting a hit tonight. My Border Collie can catch and run better than Diaz. Probably hit too.

Hillbilly

June 12th, 2012
3:23 pm

Just make sure he uses a dice cup if y’all play Yahtzee. And, then ask yourself why you’re playing Yahtzee. God, I hated that game. Stupid five-of-a-kinds.

Couldn’t secure the 35 point bonus, huh? Don’t hate.

Braves Fan in Maine

June 12th, 2012
3:24 pm

Fredi is an idiot play the kid and have em work out his problems….. this management could screw up a T BALL TEAM!!! Fredi , wren must go

RC

June 12th, 2012
3:25 pm

Considering that Heyward sat Sunday, it might have made sense to have either Prado or Diaz play 1b tonight and give Freddie a night off. But of course that’s not happening

Frankie Wren

June 12th, 2012
3:25 pm

“Five years later, Frankie. Five…bleepin’…years”

Doesn’t matter if it 5 yrs or 1 year. Still goes down as one of the most brutal trades in history. Hell, I was for it actually. Doesn’t change anything. Like talking about Lou Brock traded from Cubs to Cards. This one will get discussion down the road. Just sayin

keylargo

June 12th, 2012
3:26 pm

Mac at 3rd again? I would really rather see him at 7 than 3. One more 0 fer 4 and he’ll be hitting .228 with an OPS of .692.

Efrim

June 12th, 2012
3:26 pm

MATT DIAZ IS 5-9 AGAINST SABATHIA

He’s going to hit LHP better than Heyward. He just is. So is it a platoon, or not? I guess we’ll see. Chen, Sabathia and Pettitte three outta four days next week. I doubt Heyward will sit all three…..I hope.

cabravesfan

June 12th, 2012
3:26 pm

It would make zero sense to have Diaz or Marteen play 1st base tonight. Neither is any kind of 1st baseman. If Freddie got the day off, Hinske would be in there

Bay Area Steve

June 12th, 2012
3:26 pm

“Couldn’t secure the 35 point bonus, huh? Don’t hate.”

Must hate. No, not many bonuses, for sure. You never saw a guy fill up his wild spots so fast. 20 rolls to go, and my wilds are filled. Hated that game.

Braves Fan in Maine

June 12th, 2012
3:27 pm

I agree with you Frankie Wren (ugh hate that name) that trade will haunt us

Russell Bell

June 12th, 2012
3:27 pm

I’ll even eat Brie, if that’s what’s on the table.

Put down the cheese plate, Scoots!

Frankie Wren

June 12th, 2012
3:27 pm

Keylargo- Mac killed the ball yesterday.

TennesseePaul

June 12th, 2012
3:28 pm

Thanks for the work DOB.

GO BRAVES!!

Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9

_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .436 .463 .615 1.079 .467 __191
Prado__ .268 .268 .366 0.634 .275 ___71
McCann_ .182 .289 .303 0.593 .236 ___62
Uggla__ .241 .421 .621 1.042 .419 __180
Diaz___ .281 .361 .438 0.799 .333 __117
Chipper .250 .294 .281 0.575 .264 ___58
Freeman .270 .270 .405 0.676 .290 ___81
Simmons .219 .286 .406 0.692 .280 ___86
Minor__ .056 .056 .056 0.111 .096 __-70

Penpal

June 12th, 2012
3:28 pm

I love my Braves, win or loose, but, most of all I respect the class of the Braves. No silly childish antics when they get on base, No pie in the face when they do an interview, No Gatorade bath. I think those things are degrading, not complimentary.

RC

June 12th, 2012
3:28 pm

It would make zero sense to have Diaz or Marteen play 1st base tonight. Neither is any kind of 1st baseman. If Freddie got the day off, Hinske would be in there

Both have played 1b in the past couple of years. Neither would be an issue for one game, especially if the goal is to maximize the RH bats vs. Sabathia.

Efrim

June 12th, 2012
3:28 pm

Ok, you want a larger sample size?

Career vs. lefties:

Well, I tell ya…. If we’re calling it quits on the Heyward as an everyday player this far into the season……

Slide J-Hey

June 12th, 2012
3:28 pm

It don’t really make a damn..fredi will screw it up..

flange1

June 12th, 2012
3:29 pm

I could care less what Diaz has hit against CC, I would rather have Heyward.

Bay Area Steve

June 12th, 2012
3:29 pm

What’s nice, whichever side you’re on, is that Fredi has the option.

‘Cause if we’re bickerin’ about starts, that means that Chipper’s in, and the FMJ is good. Don’t matter who plays, we gotta swing it. And, as big a fan as I am of Heyward, he hits, he’ll play. It’s on him.

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