9:30 pm June 4, 2012, by Carroll Rogers
June 4th, 20129:35 pm
June 4th, 20129:37 pm
I like him already. Added a sinker to his array of pitches…
Gotta say I expected a hitter.
June 4th, 20129:38 pm
Agree, I’m surprised they passed on that 3B prospect Shaffer…
June 4th, 20129:40 pm
June 4th, 20129:46 pm
Yet another dadgum pitcher. I don’t think this organization will ever again take a hitter with their first pick. That’s one of the reasons we don’t have any top-shelf hitting talent in our farm system.
June 4th, 20129:47 pm
Nasty 11-7 curve!
June 4th, 20129:48 pm
1st round pick, Braves or college?
June 4th, 20129:51 pm
BRING BACK THE THRASHERS.
atl sports fan
is it october yet? yawn
June 4th, 20129:54 pm
Good pick by the Braves. I know some will complain because its a pitcher but in the MLB draft you do go after the best available.
June 4th, 20129:55 pm
Where can I look up college baseball recruits, ranking, and prospective recruits? Any website will be helpful. Thanks!
I gotta say I was hoping for Rickie Schafer too but then I saw the video of him on MLB Network goofing around and was sold on him. High character guy, not a lot of strain on his arm, incredible athlete, loves the Braves. Can’t wait to see how we develop this kid. I want a big time hitter too but our pitching isnt looking as deep today as it did last Spring. Hoping Gilmartin, Sims achor our staff for years to come!
June 4th, 20129:56 pm
With the 21st pick you take the best player available according to your draft board. Draft this year was a little on the weak side anyway for hitting. You also look for character (which this kid has) and signability. Sure we could have used a bat more than an arm, but look at the bats the Braves have drafted in the first round over the last 10 years:
2010: Lipka (not an impact bat, more of a leadoff type)
2007: Heyward (hasn’t yet met expectations)
2006: John Johnson (who? he’s now in the Phillies org)
Also…remember the “can’t miss” guys like AJ Zapp and Mike Kelly? First round busts….
Freeman and McCann were both 2nd round picks
Good pick! You can never have enough pitching. I especially like high school arms that can come in and be brought along the proper way. Merker, Avery, Glavine… these are the types of high school pitchers the Braves are famous for developing and they were all high school kids. Go Braves!
June 4th, 20129:59 pm
Interesting, Braves hadn’t drafted a HS pitcher in the first round since Macay McBride in 2001…
June 4th, 201210:03 pm
@Noob, try this:
June 4th, 201210:05 pm
Some other links for ya, Noob.
June 4th, 201210:06 pm
Forgot all about Roache! Guy was a beast last year. Would have looked great busting bombs out of the Ted! Oh well, guess Wren and boys didnt trust that wrist.
June 4th, 201210:08 pm
The BRAVES are nothing if not consistant. Totally unbalanced. Only picked a position player once in the past five years.
June 4th, 201210:10 pm
Thanks, JNick. Appreciate it!
June 4th, 201210:11 pm
I, too, am surprised the Braves did not get offense at the top of this draft. I guess they couldn’t pass on a local stud. At least I hope he becomes a stud in the rotation at the major league level as they project.
Of course he will sign with the Braves. His options…Sign with the Braves as a local kid and first round pick OR go to Clemson and continue to be dominated by the 2-time national champion University of South Carolina Gamecocks.
Come on Braves, get some offense.
June 4th, 201210:12 pm
Thanks, but I was looking specifically for college baseball recruiting. Something like scout.com and Rivals for football and basketball.
June 4th, 201210:13 pm
You guys are crazy. Top talent pitching is a lot harder to find than top hitting. You can never have enough pitching prospects. Plus with all the arms we have we can package it and get a proven hitter right away than waiting 3-4 years for him to develop and if he doesn’t he’s a bust.
With a pitcher if he doesn’t cut it as a starter you can make him into a relief pitcher too.
June 4th, 201210:18 pm
@Noob, kinda slim pickens – a lot of the good stuff on BaseballAmerica is subscription only…
this had some interesting links to each team’s signing class…
I think the other difference is that with baseball, you can still be drafted right out of high school…I’m not sure college recruiting is as looked at, since many of the best players just get drafted straight up out of HS.
perfectgame.org is another possible site – but I’m having some issues w/ my connection and getting it to load.
June 4th, 201210:25 pm
Wow is all I can say. Surprised me with this one.
Save money to use on Mac…..
Let Sims go to Clemson!!
June 4th, 201210:32 pm
Yea this is 2012 and he will probably be ready in 2016..good damn luck!
To use on Mac for what? We have Bethancourt…
Enter your comments here
June 4th, 201210:36 pm
First round picks are a total crapshoot…maybe 4-5 out of 30 will make it to the bigs…
June 4th, 201210:42 pm
I reckon the logic is that their minor league coaches will help him develop a changeup and if that happens, he becomes a top of the rotation type of guy. But his floor is probably a closer, so that isn’t all bad.
June 4th, 201210:45 pm
The knock on this kid is his delivery is similar to Stephen Strasburg’s, and thus, he’s injury-prone (per si.com). Tommy Hanson 2.0, anyone?
June 4th, 201210:47 pm
I didn’t read that Ron – I actually read that a plus about this kid was his smooth delivery….
Scouts also say that Strasburg has a clean delivery and his injury is a bit of a mystery/fluke.
June 4th, 201210:49 pm
Straight from Baseball America:
Sims has been a factor in this draft class since being invited to USA Baseball’s 16U trials in 2010, and he pitched last summer in the Prospect Classic for the 18U team, tossing a scoreless inning against the Collegiate National Team. Sims has been the most consistent high school pitcher in Georgia this spring, pushing him up toward the back of the first round. He has a fairly clean arm action and no obvious or significant mechanical issues. Sims consistently flashed three plus pitches this spring, including a fastball that has touched 97 mph at times and generally sits in the 90-93 mph range. He struggles at times to finish his pitches out front, causing him to leave his stuff up in the zone. Sims throws his slider with power in the low 80s, and at times it has good depth as well. He has the ability to spin a breaking ball, and he’s shown a solid curveball as well that’s about 10 mph slower than his slider. A Clemson recruit, Sims figures to squeeze into the back of the first round thanks to his present stuff and track record.
June 4th, 201210:53 pm
Analysis: The Lawrenceville, Ga., product has a big matchup on April 10 against local power Parkview HS, which features top 100 prospect Matt Olson and potential first-rounder for next year Josh Hart. Sims works in the low-90s and does it very easily, with a very clean finish to his delivery.
June 4th, 201210:54 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Top draft pick Lucas Sims: “This is a dream come true, I’ve been a Braves fan all my life.”
June 4th, 201210:55 pm
Dave Perkin’s Analysis: Sims possesses one of the finest fastball/curveball combinations in the entire draft. His four-seam fastball ranges from 91 to 95 mph and his tight 11-to-7 curve is an exceptional put away pitch. Mechanical purists may be concerned with Sims delivery. Similar to Stephen Strasburg, Sims uses the inverted “W” delivery (a method many feel is an injury precursor), plus Sims drops the ball down so that it almost touches his pant leg during his delivery takeaway.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/baseball/mlb/06/04/2012.mlb.draft.tracker.perkin/index.html#ixzz1wsr1btu6
Great pick, great kid, and great work ethic.
June 4th, 201210:56 pm
Awesome. Can’t beat that. Signability right there.
June 4th, 201210:59 pm
Maybe that’s why Perkin doesn’t work for Baseball America anymore
June 4th, 201211:02 pm
I don’t think I need to defend a baseball writer’s career; esp when he works for Sports Illustrated.
June 4th, 201211:03 pm
You people that are complaining about not taking a hitter must think that the baseball draft is like basketball or football drafts.
Immediate impact players in the MLB draft are so few and far between it’s ridiculous. You must think there are 4 or 5 Bryce Harpers out there every year. Guess again!
Just like those that want the Falcons or Hawks to turn their franchises around with a single first round pick – wake up folks – if a player isn’t there to take, you can’t invent one out of the blue.
This is a solid pick by every reasonable measure. For those of you wanting a reincarnacion of Bob Horner or Chipper Jones to jump out of the 1st round hitting homers for the big club in a relatively short period, you need to chill out!
give u a break
June 4th, 201211:04 pm
Jnick, say it one more time please. I expect u to be over at his house in the morning to kiss his *$#.
Great, another cracker from Georgia.
June 4th, 201211:05 pm
Seriously though, thanks for the link Ron. Always good to get a different perspective. I’m wading through a ton of articles about Strasburg and his delivery right now – it seems to be a 50-50 split as to whether or not his delivery is to blame for his arm injury. According to the Nats, the injury was caused by a single pitch, and not by “wear and tear”.
June 4th, 201211:08 pm
You are not drafting this guy to play next year or even the year or two after that. This notion that it has to be a hitter reflects a general lack of knowledge on how this draft works in comparison to other sports. Get off the hitter kick. There were no “no doubters” at positions at this point in this draft and you have the potential (what this draft is really) to get a top of the rotation guy because of his power and control.
June 4th, 201211:09 pm
Great pick Braves! If the guy is good, not a problem.
If he stinks, you can over-hype him like you did Frenchy and Heyward as another Georgia boy and when he makes the bigs, you can sell more tickets until everyone figures out he stinks.
Another plus is he’s a pitcher with funky mechanics. Ummm that’s always exciting. Maybe another Hanson just waiting for his arm to fall off.
Sims throws in the mid 90’s with very little effort..With some major league
coaching this kid could be a force..Believe me the Braves know what they
are doing with this draft pick..Kids at this age do not peak with speed, so
100 mph and some hard breaking balls is not far fetched for this draft.
June 4th, 201211:10 pm
@Give, do you have his address?
June 4th, 201211:11 pm
I guess Braves will draft Frank Wrens son from GT.
June 4th, 201211:13 pm
Oh good. Another pitcher. God forbid they get somebody who can hit the ball.
June 4th, 201211:14 pm
Video. His delivery looks pretty clean and effortless…but then again, I’m no scout – it just doesn’t look herky-jerky (techical term) like Hanson or funky like Lincecum.
P. Bull Terrier
June 4th, 201211:15 pm
I’m happy to see Sims go to the Braves. I got to see him pitch this year and he looked really good. Everything I’ve heard about him is positive.
It’s always nice to see a local kid realize his dream of being drafted by the Braves. Hopefully, part two of the dream, where he wins the clinching game of the World Series for the Braves, is only a few years down the road.
June 4th, 201211:17 pm
Nice Solid Pick http://wp.me/p2lqJ1-7X
June 4th, 201211:23 pm
Here’s my take on Sims.
He already his very low stress, repeatable mechanics. He seems to be very consistant in getting excellent drive and finish through his hips and legs
.He obviously has a very well balanced and athletic build. To me he’s a Brandon Beachy type with more power.
If he doesn’t get injured and he has the makeup.. we just drafted a gem.
Sounds like a great pick, and good luck. All I have to say, as a bulldog fan is if he decides to play college ball, is, where in the heck was David Perno in recruiting him???????
June 4th, 201211:33 pm
I love it!
I am a Brookwood grad myself and damn proud to have another local boy make the team.
Good luck kid be lookin for ya!
June 4th, 201211:41 pm
I disagree with those who compare Sims’ delivery to Strasberg’s and predict injury issues.
Strasberg puts huge stress on his arm by snapping at it forward the end of his delivery.
Sims looks much smoother to me and finishes through the hips and front leg while his throwing arm somes across his bodyin an easy motion much as Smoltz used to.
June 4th, 201211:43 pm
The rule is draft pitchers then trade or sign free agents
June 4th, 201211:46 pm
I disagree with the scout who compared Sim’s delivery to Straberg’s and predicted a high possibility of arm problems.
Strasberg finishes with his throwing arm whipping forward in a hyperextending motion. Sims uses his hips and forward leg to generate power and his arm finish is not violent but comes down and across easily like John Smoltz used to.
June 5th, 201212:34 am
Yeah, we know how this goes.
June 5th, 201212:42 am
the potential is definitely there. I hope he signs quickly so he can get some work in with Braves pitching coaches before rookie season starts…
June 5th, 20121:14 am
This Report is from PerfectGame which is probably gives the best most complete review of top end HS MLB prospects. I wouldn’t listen to some SI reporter that’s likely on seen Sims pitch 1-3 times over PerfectGame scouts which constantly track and observe all of these kids throughout their HS careers. This is what they had to say about Lucas Sims –
2/16/12: Sims first appeared at a Perfect Game event as more of a primary infielder playing for Team Gwinnett at the 2009 BCS 15U National Championship shortly after his freshman year. He showed very good bat speed and arm strength and looked like a future third base prospect if he didn’t develop as a pitcher first. He threw 86-88 mph at that event and later upped that to 90 mph when he attended his first showcase, the 2009 Southeast Underclass early in his sophomore year. It wasn’t until 2011 that Sims fully established himself as one of the top right handed pitching prospects in the country. His performance in June at the PG National Showcase earned him a spot on the East roster for the PG All-American Classic in San Diego, and Sims built on that through the summer at the WWBA 17U and 18U National Champions for Team Gwinnett in July and at the East Coast Professional Showcase in early August. Sims’ athleticism is a big plus on the mound, as he has a high leg raise delivery that he stays balanced well above the rubber during and a powerful drive to the plate using his strong lower half. He can do a better job of repeating his arm slot, especially on his change up, but it’s a delivery that pitching coaches at the next level will not have to do much tinkering with. Another thing that Sims will not have to work on at the next level is developing a third pitch. He already throws a fastball, curveball and change up and probably throws more change ups than any of his potential first round peers at the high school level. The irony is that his change up is his third best pitch right now, something one senses that Sims is aware of on the mound, but the fact that he works so hard to improve it, even against top level hitters, is something that speaks well for his aptitude as a pitcher and is something that scouts have noticed. Sims fastball sits comfortably at 92-93 mph and he has been as high as 97 mph at the East Coast Pro and 96 mph at WWBA 18U. He gets very good heavy sinking life when he works down in the strike zone and maintains his velocity well. For grading purposes, his best pitch is a 76 mph curveball that gets hard tight spin from his high three-quarters release point and outstanding downer bite at times. Sims isn’t afraid to pitch to contact with his sinking fastball and change up, but his curveball is his go to pitch when he’s looking for a strike out.
June 5th, 20121:21 am
Good signing, always good to get a long time fan of the team… in the organization.
June 5th, 20121:26 am
Not a fan of drafting the backyard kids. No offense to this kid, sure he’s a great pitcher….but it seems to be a little added pressure that few live up to. Francour bombed, Heyward is bombing. Would have loved to see a polished college bat here.
June 5th, 20121:55 am
any word on who braves are seeking to grab in second round?
June 5th, 20122:31 am
Signability again. That’s disappointing. Not drafting the best available players is really hurting the Braves. Check out the last few Wren/Liberty drafts and tell me where the sure fire major leaguers are. And wait till Simmons hits before you declare him to be a major league regular – I think he will hit but it’s not a definite.
June 5th, 20123:43 am
@The Dude, weak draft this year, you’re not going to find too many “polished bats” with the 21st pick either.
@BravesAC, he arguably was the best available player – I saw him ranked as high as 12, and as low as 30, depending on who was rating him. Most had him as the #2 or #3 best HS pitcher.
June 5th, 20123:47 am
@ed, BleacherReport has an updated mock draft that has the Braves taking Stephen Johnson, RHP, St Edwards, at #85. Personally, I don’t agree with the pick, and I’m not sure what their justification is, taking a reliever (albeit, a guy who apparently throws close to 100) with this pick.
Stay Classy, Atlanta
June 5th, 20124:01 am
Hopefully, when Sims went to the Braves game last week, he was NOT one of those rude, inconsiderate, selfish, self-absorbed, me-above-everyone-else “fans” who puts their feet up on the chairs (and the backs) of the men, women & children in front of them like so many classless individuals at The Ted already do.
June 5th, 20124:12 am
The only college bat that I could have seen the Braves taking was Richie Shaffer, but there must have been something about him that turned them off…
June 5th, 20125:44 am
I hopoe that in 4 – 5 years, we hear that the Braves draft a kid out of Bartow Senior High (FL) – r. Troutt! He’s a great young player that can play just about any position you want him to play!
Good luck to young Mr. Sims!
June 5th, 20126:00 am
The Braves will not play in a world series until the team is sold.
June 5th, 20126:15 am
As a Clemson grad and a Braves fan, I am doubly unhappy with this draft pick. I really wanted the Braves to pick Clemson 3B Shaffer; and I really wanted Sims to go to Clemson.
Rico can hit
June 5th, 20127:28 am
I like him.
June 5th, 20127:54 am
That’s comforting info. I looked at the big 3 mock drafts and couldn’t find him projected in the first round anywhere….or even his name mentioned. Add that to the Braves low 4 million draft budget and that’s what led me to think signability.
June 5th, 20127:58 am
Shaffer at 3b, a college bat proven run producer with good intangibles seemed like a fit considering Jones’ retirement and the lack of candidates in the Braves farm system (Salcedo? Not sure about him). But we’re not scouts – just fans.
Good pick. A very calm young man with a sense of humor, a mid-nineties fastball, and he’s got a wicked breaking ball. I’ll forgive the Milli Vanilli confession.
June 5th, 20128:13 am
Great pick . The Naysayer’s on this thread is just dam ridiculous .The Braves have always pick the best player in the draft they have a very long history of doing just that . So i have no reason to not beleive they haven’t picked another great young player in Lucas Sims.
June 5th, 20128:18 am
The key to evaluating pitchers is looking where the baseball is when their glove foot lands and what primary muscle they use to accelerate the baseball.
I would guess that whoever taught Mr Sims has been influenced by Tom House (and Orel Hershiser). If The AJC has any reporters they should go see how that worked out for Hershiser’s son.
The side to side movement of the head of his humerus bone in his Glenoid Fossa should be addressed.
Good luck to Mr Sims.
June 5th, 20128:34 am
Braves should look into the Home state more , And I think they realize that now .
June 5th, 20128:38 am
I WORK AT NORTH POINT CHURCH AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A PRAYER FOR EVERYONE!
June 5th, 20128:40 am
Go Get Buck Farmer so we can watch him at the Ted!
June 5th, 20128:42 am
Pitching ALWAYS trumps hitting! Good Luck to this kid… Hope he beats the odds….
June 5th, 20128:43 am
Thanks DURAN, some of us need those prayers more than others…
least of the east
June 5th, 20128:46 am
I wanted Shaffer, but his BA wasn’t that high. I think contact was an issue for him.
maybe Braves can get hometown discount from Sims and use savings to draft and sign someone else in top 10 rounds
was Sims really best player on their board at #21 ? I tend to doubt it.
Naquin went 15th to Indians so he wasn’t there
broncos and braves
June 5th, 20128:59 am
It’s crazy to think that I was in classes with this guy throughout highschool, and now he’s drafted by the braves. This guy has great work ethic and wants it more than anyone else out there. It’s a solid pick by the braves, cause this guy is gonna be good one day.
June 5th, 20129:00 am
Why does Braves management continue the poor direction. If Sims stays healthy he will prove to be a quality pitcher ” some day “. This is the point, baseball has a great farm league today of div1 colleges and junior college baseball for pitchers. Current weaknesses in the Braves organization needing immediate attention:
Two outfielders, 3rd base, 2nd base, catcher, Mature pitchers with at least two additional years playing since high school ==
I see no reason any longer for a major league baseball team to draft a high school player any sooner than the 11th round. The turn around time for a baseball player taken in the first 10 rounds should be no longer than 3 years to reach Triple A, if it takes longer for a top 10 pick than that player needs to be released.
Congrats to another local kid getting a big signing bonus and a chance in the major leagues…
That said, as far as the organizaton goes, I just can’t get excited about drafting pitchers every year. Writers salivate over our minor league system. I’m not really sure why at the moment. We’re not exactly the Rays or even the Marlins in that regard. Still waiting to produce a top flight oufielder and or more quality position players.
June 5th, 20129:01 am
It seems like our scouts pay little to 0 attention to the 8 guys who play every day.
June 5th, 20129:04 am
Prozac and Xanax block reality, be careful.
Well, he’s already committed his first rookie mistake: admitting he is a momma’s boy. He can certainly expect the requisite ass kicking if/when he signs.
June 5th, 20129:05 am
least of the east:
And some of the so called experts on the MLB Network were critical of the Naquin pick as well. This is all a crapshoot. My view is that maybe we should trust the Braves’ scouts when they select pitching in the draft. Their track record in that regard is pretty good. Now when it comes to picking postion players, that’s a whole different story.
June 5th, 20129:12 am
No one question Sims future if he stays healthy.
The question is time involved to produce for the Major League Team. Nothing else matters.
The Braves farm system is very weak at this time top to bottom, no where near many other teams.
One thing that could improve Braves pitching is getting some quality coaches for the players, very weak in farm league and out major league pitching coach is poor.
Baseball players are ALL momma’s boys… Nothing wrong with that… Unless of course your a little insecure… Don’t worry though Duran is praying for us … mmmmm Good…
June 5th, 20129:13 am
June 5th, 20129:14 am
Braves first round pics since 1965 listed above…Chipper and Murphy are the only onese that really stand out to me. Wainright looks good thus far and were all waiting for Heyward. Well see about this kid.
June 5th, 20129:21 am
Good Morning everyone, Obviously I am not knowledgeable enough to be in this conversation. So if I may listen in and learn it would be appreciated. Thank you.
June 5th, 20129:33 am
Good job Andy… Just raise your hand when you would like to talk…
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