3:12 pm May 30, 2012, by David O'Brien
May 31st, 201210:01 am
I believe Furcal was ROY, wasn’t he? I don’t know if that lines up with “reasonable expectation” for Simmons
Yes. That is an unreasonable expectation. Furcal hit .295/.394/.382/.776 with 40 stolen bases as a switch hitter and a cannon for an arm. He won ROY by a mile and a half over Rick Ankiel (pitcher). I really don’t see Simmons doing that.
True that, McFann but I’m sure his homer quieted some of his dieticians and nutritionists on here. At least for a few innings.
May 31st, 201210:04 am
I don’t think that Pastor can’t play SS, just not for the Braves with better defensive talent available. Simmons made plays in the hole that Wilson and Pastor routinely couldn’t handle. With sinker baller pitching, SS is a key role and Pastor can barely get the ball to first without a short hop let alone make the throw from behind Chipper. Bringing uup the kid was the right move.
According to this Bill Shanks article
You’re my bud, Brian, so I’ll remind you that reading Bill Shanks with any frequency will turn your baseball brain to mush. I don’t want to see a fine mind wasted, so, be careful, willya?
I’d love to read that book. The part where is says the way to get Heyward out is with 89mph fastballs over the heart of the plate must be some riveting reading.
my fave-phrases category
ignorant BBWAA geezer
Park Adjusted… those were on the t-shirts. I seem to recall something else was on that t-shirt coupled with park adjusted.
May 31st, 201210:07 am
Oh, dang, “park-adjusted”; my bad for leaving that one out. Absolutely belongs in the group, guess I just had a little synapse misfire.
Brian from SC
May 31st, 201210:08 am
LOL…don’t really know much about him, scoots. I think he wrote a book a while back that I read about the Braves. Don’t remember ever reading anything else by him…I just saw the link to this article on Twitter.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 31st, 201210:09 am
For a few innings…
Hey, I’ll take a 4-RBI any ol’ time, especially when some are of the two-out variety—doesn’t really matter how he gets ‘em!
May 31st, 201210:10 am
Figures that I had to miss the game yesterday… quite an eventful evening.
Love the way Freddie came storming back onto the scene. That was awesome, and just goes to show how valuable he is to this team. Without Freddie I don’t think there’s any way this team is contending. Team MVP right there.
Lew, since I missed the game, any chance you could check the box score and let me know how Constanza did? Did he help the team win? Again, missed the game.
I feel bad for Pastornicky but think it was the right move. Right now the team needs a solid defensive SS, and The Rev just wasn’t up to the task. I look forward to him taking Diaz’s backup spot next season.
Funny that everyone in the lineup had a hit except Heyward last night. Well, not really funny. Seems like his turn under Wren’s microscope is next. Doesn’t seem like Wren is willing to sit back and let guys flounder for an entire season anymore… makes me wonder if a change in RF is coming, be it a platoon or some time for Heyward in AAA.
“The player’s park-adjusted reasonable expectation was derided unmercifully in a reckless narrative from an ignorant BBWAA geezer.”
There. Archive for future use.
May 31st, 201210:11 am
Venters pitches down in the zone which is an easier pitch to hit at 93 mph. He’s getting too much of the plate and his sinker/change up isn’t good enough right now to keep them off the fast ball. He’ll get it back…just location problem right now. which one would you send down, Delgado or Minor? Don’t think they woudl keep one for the pen.
SPeaking of books, I finished reading Calico Joe last week (only took me like, a week to read it)—really enjoyed it. Think I’ll be looking into some more John Grisham…
May 31st, 201210:13 am
That’s what I meant by “For a few innings”…
May 31st, 201210:14 am
Good to know. Looking forward to it.
CBI, this. The amount of Frohawk Wigs sold at Turner Field will more than pay for a marginal arb eligible player. Hater.
May 31st, 201210:15 am
I didn’t mean it
May 31st, 201210:19 am
I know…that’s why I didn’t pounce on ya…
May 31st, 201210:20 am
10paul All things considered, I wasn’t terribly disappointed in Pastornicky. Perhaps because of my reasonable expectations. I think he might have pulled out of the hitting slump given time.
i feel the same way, but i think we can gather that he is getting sent down because the braves want better defense out of SS, and they can get it right away. remember, fredi and on the field people wanted simmons out of spring training, while wren was pushing rev. i guess the experiment is over and the on the field guys are getting their way.
May 31st, 201210:21 am
Last night snapped a streak of 11 games with a single-digit hit total for the Braves offense. Only Houston, Oakland, and Pittsburgh have had a streak longer this season (all 12 games). Their previous longest such streak in 2012 was just four games.
May 31st, 201210:26 am
Pschh, whatever. We all know jeffrey’s the ringleader.
May 31st, 201210:28 am
The Schedule the Upcoming month of June is Brutal, especially with Interleague Play! We need to make it out of the The Fire with atleast a .500 month of June…
But the Good Thing about playing the Good teams in the AL East is that the Braves are Notorious for playing up or down to the level of their competition. All three series against the Dead Sox and the Bankees will be “Statement Series”
May 31st, 201210:29 am
Great Game to go to last night eh? Other than it being hot as balls outside? But I know you got ur moneys worth?
From the previous blog which had 1,538 comments, phil led the way with 95 posts. There were 231 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 phil 95
2 Brian from SC 58
3 Joe in SoCal 44
4 VaBravesFan 44
5 ncscoots 40
6 raleighbravefan 40
7 McFann :Ô: :Ô: 38
8 brian 36
9 nolie 34
10 Bat Masterson 32
11 RC 32
12 The A Bomb 30
13 richbrave 30
14 Lew 28
15 MFin04 28
16 TennesseePaul 27
17 ChattTownBrian (CTB) 26
18 Murph 26
19 cabravesfan 26
20 CraZy 25
21 David O’Brien 23
22 tiger297 21
23 MikeInFl 20
24 cricket 19
25 Fols 16
I read an article once that compared Bill Shanks to Sean Hannity… Other than one is sports and based out of Macon and the other is politics and has 2 national shows I think that’s about right both like to complain, both constantly yell about things, both think they’re always right, and also think everyone is in love with.
For sure…we just let him think he’s fooling us…
Anyway, I think BMac did lose some while he was sick—not that he was fat to start the year, but he looked a little slimmer during this Cardinals series…
May 31st, 201210:30 am
20 down, 21 to go…
The Braves have completed 20 consecutive games against teams with winning records, and with no off-days. They went 9-11 in those 20 games, even with the 8-game losing streak. The 5-1 mark against St. Louis certainly helped.
Now after the welcome off-day finally, they play 21 more straight games against winning teams. First up is a road trip to the top teams in the NL East in Washington and Miami. It’s an important trip. Then a tour of the AL East, with Baltimore, Boston, Toronto, and two series with New York.
May 31st, 201210:31 am
Not buying into this strategy totally. 6th inning and take lead on Wilson’s double. Diaz PH and purposedly gives self up going to right side to advance runner. Offense struggling I understand, but why not play for big inning? Diaz mostly hits to opposite side anyways so chances are strong he advances somehow unless he whiffs. Bourn grounds out and Wilson gets thrown out at plate. B Mac saved the inning and didn’t backfire but still not crazy about decisions. Like to see this in the first inning as Prado has done a good job advancing Bourn but not so much in middle innings. See this a lot from Fredi and not sure it applies to every situation a man is on 2nd with no outs. Like to see shoot for a big inning at times.
May 31st, 201210:32 am
@Brian From Sc
No Excuse if the Braves can’t hit Homers in that Corporate Bandbox in the Rotten Apple…Known as The New Yankee Stadium
Hi T’hawkin. Yup, I had a blast and luckily I was in the shade so the weather was awesome. It was fun to see the bats keep coming back even with the pitching letting them down every few innings. I was really excited to see fab Freddie back in the lineup.
May 31st, 201210:33 am
Murph – Maybe you should go back to my poosts yesterday (between 6:30 and 7 – right before game time) and read what I actually said.
At no time did I dismiss what he had done ( hit a singe and scored a run on a wild pitch), nor did I denigrate Georgie, his limited skill set (lots and lots of speed and some decent d), make fun of him, or downplay his contribution in any way shape or form.
Whjat I DID do was to say that his performance in that game was not headline worthy – especially when four of the five runs we scored werre as a result of HR’s by Uggla and Bourn. Not so sure I see anything other than the truth in any of my statements.
Now you’ve got to realize that a. I’m a huge (in many ways) Braves fan and I’m thrilled whenever someone wearing the Tomahawk on his uni does well in a game – and that includes Georgie. Really wonderful he had three hits last night and I sincerely hope we see another month long run around the bases for him – just like last year and b. that people here tend to go overboard (on both sides of the proverbial fence) and make more of things than they normally (by sane people -something none of us are) deserve.
Was what he did a good thing? Sure it was. Was it worthy of headlines and the (you klnow they’re on their way) cliams that he should be our full time LFer (now and next year)? Doubtful in my estimation. But I’ll be very peased if – indeed – the performance continues. But don’t count on me to be raising my fists to the sky and proclaiming him worthy of our adoration. That would require something more prodigious than beating out infield singles and scoring on wild pitches.
May 31st, 201210:34 am
It was fun to see the bats keep coming back
Fun? That sounds horrible. Possibly Hitchcockian.
May 31st, 201210:36 am
Good job last night.
May 31st, 201210:37 am
“Hi T’hawkin. Yup, I had a blast and luckily I was in the shade so the weather was awesome. It was fun to see the bats keep coming back even with the pitching letting them down every few innings. I was really excited to see fab Freddie back in the lineup.”
Mark It Down, I’m Planning on Going to prolly next Fridays Game, There is a Facebook Tailgating Party/Event in the Green Lot that the “Thanks Bobby” Group will be throwing
On a little carny break, eh jeffrey?
May 31st, 201210:38 am
For a week, yeah
May 31st, 201210:39 am
Not to mention The Chophouse is Calling Me…I’m thirsting for one of those Frozen Tomaritas, Those Tomaritas are Fiyah and addictive, but its 25 bucks for 3 of them
Mark It Down, I’m Planning on Going to prolly next Fridays Game
I will mark that down.
Thanks, Bat. Had to dispose of bad memories from the last time I was at Turner Field last September and Mr. Lowe decided to go (bad) berserko before I even sat down.
May 31st, 201210:40 am
The standings are very packed at the top.
The Dodgers (32) and Rangers (31) lead the way in wins.
Five teams now have 29 wins: Washington, Miami, Baltimore, Tampa, and Chicago (AL)
Three have 28 wins: New York (NL), Atlanta, Cincinnati
Six teams have 27 wins: Philadelphia, New York (AL), Toronto, Cleveland, St. Louis, and San Francisco
Then Boston and Los Angeles (AL) have 26 wins.
After Texas and Los Angeles (NL), there are an amazing 17 teams within four games of each other.
May 31st, 201210:42 am
I went to a Lowe game once and he gave up runs when he was warming up in the bullpen.
Lew :”hits as least as well as The Rev did”
No only that but get on Base…Simmons in AA with good OBP with 20 BB.
May 31st, 201210:43 am
Simmons should’ve started with us to begin with. Don’t experiment with SS imo. He’ll help our pitchers confidence once, or if, he plays defense like he’s said to. I’m sure he will.
May 31st, 201210:44 am
I’m thirsting for one of those Frozen Tomaritas, Those Tomaritas are Fiyah and addictive,
A four pack of Bartles and Jaymes may fit your budget better…
Didn’t know I did so much talking yesterday…
May 31st, 201210:46 am
I’m Planning on Going to prolly next Fridays Game, There is a Facebook Tailgating Party/Event in the Green Lot that the “Thanks Bobby” Group will be throwing
Just Great…anybody else going? I now have a Green Lot parking pass to sell if interested…
infield is so short of range that ground balls keep leaking through, several woulda likely been handled by a decent infield
And there’s the rub. I’ve missed having a good defensive shortstop. I didn’t hold my breath so much when a ball was hit at a certain player even when Kelly Johnson was playing second.
May 31st, 201210:47 am
Heyward’s past 36 games: .189 (23-for-122) with five doubles, four homers, 15 RBI, 16 walks, 37 strikeouts, four steals (three caught), .293 OBP, .344 slugging percentage (.637 OPS).
Juan – Let’s see how he adjusts to ML pitching before we start to believe he’ll have anywhere near that high an OBP in the bigs. What I expect is good defense (something we definitely need) and maybe a bit more offensively than we saw from The Rev.
I’d also be suropirsed if he DIDN’T walk a fair amount hitting in front of the pitcher. Of course, Fredi might have Constanza hitting ninth.
May 31st, 201210:48 am
“don’t count on me raising my fists to the sky and proclaiming him worthy of our adoration” Lew on Constanza
Geez, he’s not Bourn or a Jose Reyes, but he’s valuable, at least for short spurts. Phew! Tough crowd here.
Not that it matters since we won anyway, but does Tim get the W instead of a no decision if Simmons was at SS last night? Would he get to a couple of the balls Wilson let through??
May 31st, 201210:49 am
Aw, petrel and T’hawkin can start a standing O together for Yunel next Friday.
Anyone know it the Braves fly out last night or stay home with today off day.
May 31st, 201210:50 am
DOB, you need to figure out why Jason is back to his stance and that same old hitch before he swings, instead of the more compact stance/swing he had in ST and to begin the season. He wasn’t tearing it up, but he looked to be on his way I think.
May 31st, 201210:51 am
Juan – Thought I heard on last night’s broadcast that today was a travel day.
Constanza is a solid player to have on the roster. Right now I’d rather see him in LF than the water buffalo and I like Prado at 3rd instead of Juan.
Lew agree your 10:47 post….this kid has a Glove.
May 31st, 201210:52 am
Jason Heyward, the “great” right fielder: so far in his career, he has 11 assists, 13 errors.
Jeff Francoeur has 102 assists. 34 errors.
Please wake me up the next time he A) makes a good throw to nail a runner at any base, or B) at least hits the cut-off man. Hopefully he’s now paying attention since Bryce Harper exposed him last week.
In his past 25 games, Heyward has no steals, and only one attempt.
Needs to find that aggressive streak again. It’s a confidence thing. I don’t know how you go about doing it, but more than anything, I think he needs to learn to be a ballplayer confident in his abilities.
May 31st, 201210:53 am
Not sure I remember what we’re supposed to do on off-days…
Geez, [Constanza is] not Bourn or a Jose Reyes, but he’s valuable, at least for short spurts.
Well, he does prevent them from having to, you know, play with eight guys, so there’s that.
Prado’s past 40 games: .351 (53-for-151) with 19 extra-base hits, 28 runs, 20 RBI, 20 walks, 17 K, 6 SB (1 CS), .429 OBP, .523 slugging (.952 OPS).
May 31st, 201210:54 am
Not funny Soph.
I’d rather have lunch with Georgre.
May 31st, 201210:55 am
That would require something more prodigious than beating out infield singles and scoring on wild pitches.
Again, I didn’t get to watch the game… were all 3 Constanza hits infield singles?
I did listen to the 1st inning on the radio and heard him track down that ball for the out… sounded impressive, although everything sounds impressive when Don is doing the call.
Like I said yesterday, coming off an 8 game losing streak, anyone who helps the Braves win should be hoisted up on the shoulders of adoring fans and carried around like a king, be they a AAAA scrub OF or an all-star 2B. You should be doing drawings of Constanza reaching out of that crouching stance and spraying the ball just past the mound. A street in Gwinnett should have it’s name changed to “Biff Avenue”.
Yeah, I’m bored.
Heyward certainly doesn’t have the arm that Francoeur has. I believe he has more range.
May 31st, 201210:56 am
Heyward’s past 36 games
May 31st, 201210:57 am
I wouldn’t mind seeing Juan at 3rd, Prado in LF and Constanza in RF. It might be a good time to send Heyward down to work on some confidence. He’s really not helping this club right now and he has so many holes in his approach at the plate it’s ridiculous.
Not singling you out DOB, it’s just that, well, somebody has to fill in for Efrim whilst he gets wed.
Hello everyone. Been in hospital for a month. Been awhile. Just popped in to apologize for my actions before. I especially want to tell Murph that I am sorry for my actions before. Bye everyone and thanks.
May 31st, 201210:58 am
Murph – Of course you’re bored – it’s an off day.
At least one of his singles did leave the infield. He had a good game, but even with three hits, the headline still would have been “McCann and Freeman back – Both hit 1st Inning Home Runs”
May 31st, 201210:59 am
I could be exaggerating, but I counted at the very least 1 ball Constanza caught that Prado would not have and probably 1 or 3 more that Hinske wouldn’t get to. Including a ground ball he cut off in LC.
May 31st, 2012
“Heyward’s past 36 games: .189 (23-for-122) with five doubles, four homers, 15 RBI, 16 walks, 37 strikeouts, four steals (three caught), .293 OBP, .344 slugging percentage (.637 OPS).”
Ouch, but Can’t give up on him.
Brian from SC Heyward certainly doesn’t have the arm that Francoeur has. I believe he has more range.
I agree. Francoeur has a heckuvan arm—but there were lots of times when the CF needed backing up and it was like, “Where’s Francoeur?”…
May 31st, 201211:00 am
And I ain’t hoisting anyone on my shoulders. I carry enough of my own weight with me everywhere I go.
May 31st, 201211:01 am
Needs to find that aggressive streak again. It’s a confidence thing.
Could also be an on base thing. Guy has seen his OBP flip.. .300 during that stretch vs .350 in the stretch before.
May 31st, 201211:03 am
Lew Of course you’re bored – it’s an off day.
Why is it that the time of day when there wouldn’t be a game anyway still more boring on an off-day? Sheesh…
Chipper , Jason and Roger are protected by either Cox or Aaron , Fredi has no say about how these players are used .
May 31st, 201211:04 am
Over his last 653 plate appearances Heyward is hit what is reasonably expected of him: .229/.322/.396/.718
Constanza can’t weigh more than 60 or 70 lbs, though.
May 31st, 201211:05 am
DOB…I heard last night in the Florida game that Stanton has the number in May to be the Player of the Month….How Prado number in May compare to him…i know stanton has more Homer…he went in a rampage in may.
May 31st, 201211:06 am
I wouldn’t mind seeing Juan at 3rd, Prado in LF and Constanza in RF.
What, you’re already longing for those long-ago days of an 8-game losing streak, LOL?
I especially want to tell Murph that I am sorry for my actions before
The return of The Rally Stripper!
May 31st, 201211:07 am
Murph – I am a person of substance. I more than make upo for Georgie’s lack of weight. All I can do to move myself around all that much (actually, I’ve walked a mile so far this morning, but without anyone on my shoulders).
May 31st, 201211:09 am
Prado and Bourn have been more valuable than Kemp, Beltran, McCutchen, Carlos Gonzalez, to name a few, according to Fangraphs’ WAR.
I’m sure since that conclusion is what most like, they trust Fangraphs’ WAR in that case. In other cases, it’s just an “esoteric” stat, and not an actual measure of things that lead to creating and preventing runs. Couldn’t be the latter, unless the results tell us what we want them to tell us.
Now, at least, you can stop mistaking Constanza as the reason for the end of the streak.
Juan, no chance Prado or anyone else but Stanton wins NL Player of Month for May. Stanton has hit .343 with 10 doubles, 12 homers, 30 RBIs and a .769 slugging percentage for the month.
May 31st, 201211:10 am
He’s only 22 years old!
I hate that statement.
Gil in Mechanicsville
May 31st, 201211:11 am
Morning folks, pretty interesting games with the Cards the past two nights. All the folks who love offense had to be ecstatic. Me, not so much. I rather enjoy watching low scoring pitching duels.
I was a little surprised to see Pastornicky sent down but since that option was not available for Jack Wilson, it was not totally unexpected. Too many ground balls hit in the 6 hole skipping over and under gloves to make life enjoyable for the Braves’ pitching staff. Pitching to contact only works when guys can catch the ball.
On Heyward. Sigh, the trials and tribulations of a young player with such high expectations. Me thinks he is pressing too much. It is hard to remember so many of his peers are still plying their craft in double and triple A.
The potential is there but I think his confidence took a big hit after he was hurt last year and it has caused him to develop some bad habits.
As for Francisco, that long swing of his is so easy to exploit, it is going to take a lot of time and patience to overcome it. He is a very strong kid but someone needs to explain to him he is not going to be able to hit 500 foot homeruns every at bat. Those wall scrapers count just as much and he could reel those off one handed.
Freddi Freeman is a perfect example of how you can generate a lot of power with a short stroke given the ball is struck with the sweet spot of the bat.
ncscoots, Oh yes I know, cause Heyward has been so productive.
May 31st, 201211:13 am
So facebook has cracked $27. How low can it go?
May 31st, 201211:15 am
Shaun – Well, you COULD go along with whichever one says what you want it to say – OR you could come to the conclusion that a stat that different people figure in different ways to come up with different answers just has little to no meaning at all.
May 31st, 201211:16 am
Shaun, taking a break from The Mission? (That being to find stats that tell us The Guy is doing better than any mere fan or scout realizes from actually watching.)
May 31st, 201211:17 am
I was hoping the Braves would draft Donavan Tate in ‘09. Ahem, from Tim Sullivan..
Donavan Tate, the No. 3 overall selection in 2009, carries a .225 batting average for the Padres’ Single-A Fort Wayne TinCaps, and has not hit a home run since 2010.
New-cottage-in-Aspen low, I hope.
May 31st, 201211:18 am
I wouldn’t mind seeing Juan at 3rd
I wouldn’t mind seeing a cardboard cut out of Chipper at 3rd.
Just an onteresting fact that y’all cvan make of what you will. Last year during the Cards WS drive, we wnet 1-5 against them in direct play. This year we went 5-1.
May 31st, 201211:20 am
One more comment, I think the goggles Freddi wore last night fit his face nicely. He can pull off the look well. They looked much better than his street glasses.
Shaun, taking a break from The Mission?
Oh man, sleeping dogs, brother, sleeping dogs.
May 31st, 201211:21 am
You know, there’s a fix for the D if that’s a problem. Move Juan out to LF and Prado to 3rd., at least you’d get more production out of the line up than what we currently have playing. An idea move might be to pick up someone like Chase Headley to come in and play this year however I’m not quite sure we’ve got the room or the ability to acquire him.
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