12:57 pm May 28, 2012, by David O'Brien
May 28th, 201210:31 pm
We need more cow bells. Thats what we need
“You are what your record says it is”.
Kinda’ hard to put a lot of faith in that, given that just over a week ago our record said we were the 2nd best team in the NL.
By that logic I guess they really could call the season after the first week, and whoever’s on top wins.
May 28th, 201210:39 pm
How about Tommy Glavine for pitching coach? I can dream. JeanE
JeanE. can you imagine TG in Spring Training with 20, 20 something year old prospects. “Today we are going to work on the outside black edge of the plate. Everyone pair up and throw 200 pitches as close to the corner without actually being over the corner. We want to see how far off the plate we can work the umpire. Again, nothing over the plate and preferably 3 to 4 inches off the black.”
Throw one over the plate and you’ll have to start over, so stay locked in.
May 28th, 201210:42 pm
Great song, DOB, thanks. And thank you to all the bloggers who serve and have served our country.
May 28th, 201210:48 pm
May 28th, 201210:58 pm
aha, Lou is back, but too stupid to see that Uggla is having a good year. Hate,like smoke, gets in your eyes…
May 28th, 201211:02 pm
May 28th, 201211:08 pm
nolie – there seem to be dozens more who think we should get rid of Uggla, being excellent judges of such things…
May 28th, 201211:09 pm
I’m not so sure that dozen actually = 12 different peeps
A little told you so from the Nam… I was roundly ridiculed in the off-season when I suggested that we needed to bring in a couple of consistent, work-horse starting pitchers. Why? Coz I thought it was folly asking a rotation made up of inexperienced and aging, injury riddled pitchers to get through a whole season. Coz I didn’t think they’d eat enough innings. Coz I was worried we’d burn our pen again. Those chickens are coming home to roost coz the Bravos just of late seem to overvalue pitchers who are not as good as the hype suggests… and maybe one or two hitters as well. If they don’t want Chipper’s season to end in tears, they need to get some trades happening with teams that will munch some cash.
May 28th, 201211:11 pm
Probably about time now for a closed doors, home truths kind of meeting. We’ve got no more injuries than anyone else… but we do need an attitude readjustment.
you saw that all the way from SE Asia? Pretty perceptive.
May 28th, 201211:13 pm
Two quick questions.
1). I asked previously about John Lannan. I know he’s been stinking it up in the minors, but he’s a guy with a lot of upside who I’d think would react well to being in a starting line-up. What are chances Braves try to get him if Nats can eat some of his salary?
2). Do you think with Braves having over 30 mill freed up at year’s end that they’d make a run at Hamilton or too many other needs to fill?
The A Bomb
May 28th, 201211:14 pm
Even A.J. Ellis striking out in L.A. looks more competitive than any Brave getting a hit. No one there makes excuses for not having the best player in baseball.
Mattingly is proving to be one helluva good hire.
May 28th, 201211:15 pm
Braves cant afford Hamilton.
NWIH does Hamilton become a Brave, They won’t even considerit. too much risk for what it would cost, only a very few will have a realistic shot at Hamilton.
May 28th, 201211:17 pm
Didn’t we get rid of a quasi-work horse starting pitcher that “everyone” wanted gone?
May 28th, 201211:22 pm
Wake me up when sept ends…no more idiots putting tito in the same co as the cap tipper. DIsgraceful.
Cleveland seems to be rather enjoying him, for $10 mil from the Braves . . . . To be fair and honest, I also thought at the time trading him was the right move.
May 28th, 201211:24 pm
Wake me up when September ends? It’s a long way from the end of May to the end of September!
May 28th, 201211:27 pm
Lowe has 61 IP with 75 hits and 18 Ks. I’m not so sure he is gonna keep up the pace all season, and of course there is no way to know if he would be having similar results here, especially given his history.
May 28th, 201211:28 pm
why would you want to wait til the end of Sept to wake up? Football starts way b4 then
May 28th, 201211:31 pm
Hello everyone! I think our best bet is Zack G. from the Brewers, or Dempster? Call up Flande, send Durbin back down. Use Livan as trade bait if you could get some one to go after him? Trade Diaz, and Jiack Wilson. Call up Todd Cunningham, or Parraz.Then call up Simmons for SS.
May 28th, 201211:32 pm
A valid point. Joe M would agree.
May 28th, 201211:33 pm
Could always call up Salcedo from AAA to? At least he’s had 3rd base experience, and is comfortable there.
May 28th, 201211:34 pm
True, nolie. And I doubt he will. He’s been just as inconsistent the last few seasons as some of the Braves’ young pitchers are now. The difference is that they are young pitchers and that’s what young pitchers do. Hopefully they figure it out and grow up to stick around long enough and be productive long enough to become old pitchers who become inconsistent at the end of their careers.
May 28th, 201211:35 pm
Wren can at least stop the bleeding, but he’s still into his own mind set that every thing will be O.K.
May 28th, 201211:36 pm
Going old school with the lyrics…
Oh, it’s a long long while from May to December
But the days grow short when you reach September
When the autumn weather turns the leaves to flame
And you ain’t got time for waiting game
Ward – 4 days ago you said everything would be okay…
May 28th, 201211:38 pm
VJ – I don’t think so now……..
Trade Diaz and Wilson? To whom? The Columbia Bombers? You could bundle all four (w/leeevus and fg) for…APTBNL
May 28th, 201211:41 pm
I’m very concerned, and don’t think things are right. I’m calm ,but don’t like the direction the Braves are going.
May 28th, 201211:42 pm
JAFO – It was a good pitch effort……..
Yunel's Frosted Tips
Bourbon guzzlin’ pitchers like Lowe and Hanson don’t hold up when the weather gets hot…….you can look it up………
May 28th, 201211:45 pm
Jason Marquis cleared waivers…….i bet his 8 plus ERA could be had pretty cheap…….
VJ – It’s always Green Day for me when I hear references like JAFO’s.
May 28th, 201211:50 pm
Up Next for the Braves
Cards 2 games
Nats 3 games
Marlins 3 games
Blue Jays 3 games
Baltimore 3 games
going to be tough……
I looked it up. David Wells had a good career. Babe Ruth was a great pitcher. Grover Cleveland Alexander and Whitey Ford made the HOF.
May 28th, 201211:52 pm
Yeah….but players are softer now……..can’t handle bourbon and broads like the old timers……
Hey Nolie, not bad from SE Asia heh
May 28th, 201211:53 pm
aha. I guess that could be true…..
May 28th, 201211:54 pm
nope, you had that telescope really workin’ well, BN
Unfortunately, juuuuust a bit outside Ward but I understand.
May 28th, 201211:55 pm
Dog 86….How many people have died on the field in the history of the sport? You knew what I was saying. There was no argument there.
May 28th, 201211:59 pm
Ward – when Freddie finally gets glasses that work and we get him back, and BMac rebuilds his strength, they will be better. They won’t really be back until Chipper gets back and kicks everyone in the —. It’s been sort of “Bad News Bears” looking lately, but this team is a whole lot better than that!
May 29th, 201212:00 am
MIBravesFan – That “September Song” was written in 1938 – a bit before “When September Comes”…
and take a double-visioned fastball off the temple? I strongly frown upon hitting without a helmet. We are in agreement.
one died in a game from a pitched ball.
. one died from injuries a week or two after the game
May 29th, 201212:01 am
May 29th, 201212:02 am
send Durbin back down
Ward, do you watch the games? Durbin has been better than several I could name for the past month(ish)…
Our research uncovered over 800 game-related fatalities of players, other personnel, and spectators from 1862 through 2007.
While only one major league player was ever killed by a beaning (Ray Chapman, Cleveland Indians, 1920), nine minor league batters met the same fate. The first was Herbert Whitney of the Burlington (IA) Pathfinders in 1906, the last was Ottis Johnson of the Dothan (AL) Browns in 1951.
The first fatal beaning occurred on August 21, 1887, when amateur player Otto Bronson, 18, was struck behind his left ear during a game in Hamilton, NY. Since that time, over 100 other batters were killed by beanings.
While beanings were the most frequent cause of player fatalities prior to the adoption of the batting helmet in the late 1950s, pitched and thrown balls striking other parts of the anatomy resulted in over 90 player deaths. In most cases, these non-beaning deaths were due to sudden cardiac arrest caused by the ball striking the chest area over the heart, a condition known medically as commotio cordis, or concussion of the heart.
Minor league player Pete Mann of the Macon (GA) Peaches was killed instantly by a pitch striking his chest while at bat during a game on July 13, 1927.
Dick Conway, first baseman for the minor league Twin Falls (ID) Cowboys, was struck on the chest by a ball thrown by the second baseman during infield practice before a game in Ogden, UT, on June 29, 1951. He died on the way to the hospital.
Ten baserunners were killed by thrown balls. The earliest was William Higgins, 20, who was struck on the temple by a ball while running from second to third in a game in Fontana, KS, on August 13, 1903. He died two hours later. The most recent death occurred on March 27, 2000, when Shawn Barnes, 15, was struck on the chest while running to second base during a high school practice game in Madison, IN.
Clifford Dirks, a high school pitcher from Wyoming, IA, fatally beaned Norman Latare, 16, during a game on September 21, 1948. During a May 3 game the following season, Dirks again killed a player when his pick-off throw struck baserunner Glen Rhoads, 17, on the base of the skull.
Fifteen pitchers, 17 catchers, 35 position players, and four baserunners were killed by batted balls. In addition, five batters were killed by foul tips off their own bats.
Blows from bats resulted in the deaths of 25 players.
Collisions with other players resulted in the deaths of four minor league players. The first was Louis Henke, first baseman for the Atlanta Atlantas, who was fatally injured when the baserunner’s head struck Henke’s side during a game in 1885. Most recently, Alfredo Edmead, outfielder for the Salem (VA) Pilots, died shortly after colliding with the team’s second baseman as both pursued a pop fly during a game in Rocky Mount, NC, in 1974.
Thirty other players at the amateur and semi-pro level also died from collisions. Among these was John Quigley, 19, catcher for the semi-pro Harlem (NY) Clippers. A collision with baserunner Dennis “Big Dan” Brouthers at home plate during a July 7, 1877, game in Wappingers Falls, NY, resulted in Quigley’s death a month later. Brouthers, who would go on to a distinguished 19-year major league career as a first baseman, was elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1945.
Heart attacks and other health-related events resulted in the deaths of 48 players, including two major leaguers (Jim Creighton, Brooklyn Excelsiors, 1862, and Steve Bechler, Baltimore Orioles, 2003), five minor leaguers (Bob Osgood, Marion (OH) Cubs, 1948; Herb Gorman, San Diego Padres, 1953; Mac Smith, Hagerstown (MD) Packets, 1954; Dixie Howell, Indianapolis Indians, 1960; and Ronaldo Romero, Gastonia (NC) Rangers, 1990), two Negro Leaguers (John Garcia, Cuban Giants, 1904 and Clyde Nelson, Indianapolis Clowns, 1949), and 38 amateur players.
Orrie McWilliams, 15, was eating a piece of candy while catching during practice in Deep River, IA, on April 19, 1907. When the pitcher threw a fastball, McWilliams inhaled the candy, causing it to lodge in his throat. He was carried to a local doctor’s office, but died before the doctor could dislodge the candy.
Thirty players, including one minor leaguer (Andy Strong, Crowley (LA) Millers, 1951) died from lightning strikes. Allen Joyner, Jr., 23, Harry Moore, 24, and Joe Taylor, 20, were killed when lightning struck the backstop at the beginning of a game in Baker, FL, in 1949. The bolt traveled around the infield striking Joyner at third, Moore at short, and Taylor at second, killing Joyner and Moore instantly, Taylor the next day.
Violence (shootings, stabbings, blows from bats and other objects) ended the lives of 22 players. In 1935 game in Stantonville, TN, for example, batter Cal Wilson got into an argument with umpire Grady Walls over a decision Walls had made. During the course of the argument, Walls picked up a bat and struck Wilson over the head, fracturing his skull. Wilson died three days later. This murder resulted in a second death when brothers Gerry and Troy Scott from nearby Selmer, TN, got into a violent argument over who was the instigator of the Wilson-Walls fight. When Gerry threatened his brother with a shotgun, their father, Lon, attempted to separate his two sons. The gun went off, shooting Lon Scott in the heart, killing him instantly.
Cal Drummond was injured by a foul tip while umpiring a June 10, 1969 game at Baltimore’s Memorial Stadium. Surgery was required to remove a blood clot in his brain. The following spring he was attempting a comeback when he fell ill during a minor league game in Des Moines, IA, on May 2, 1970. He died the next day from a Acerebral infarct.
Fourteen umpires, batboys, scorekeepers, and other field personnel died in ball-related incidents. In addition, 13 died from heart attacks and other health-related events.
During a May 29, 1909, game in Millvale, PA, umpire John Donaldson was fatally injured when his brother, Frank, foul tipped a ball, which struck the umpire on the nose. John Donaldson died of a blood clot on his brain several days later.
Violence against field personnel, including umpires, resulted in eight deaths. The first umpire to be killed by a player was Sam Powell, 19, who was assaulted by Frank McCoy, 18, during a game in Lowndesboro, AL, on April 29, 1899. An argument over a disputed call led to McCoy striking Powell over the head with a bat, thus killing the unfortunate umpire instantly.
While Alan Fish, 14, was the only fan killed by a foul ball at a major league game (Los Angeles Dodgers, May 16, 1970), one fan at a minor league game and 49 fans at amateur games were fatally injured by foul balls. In addition, balls thrown into the stands killed one fan at a major league game (Clarence Stagemyer at Griffith Stadium, September 29, 1943), one at a minor league game, and 17 at amateur games. Bat blows killed eight fans, while collisions with players resulted in two deaths.
The most unusual foul ball fatality occurred on October 25, 1902, at an amateur game in Morristown, OH. Stanton Walker, 20, was seated between Frank Hyde, who was scoring the game, and Leroy Wilson, another fan. During the course of the game, Hyde asked Wilson for a knife so he could sharpen his pencil. Wilson opened the blade of his penknife and handed it to Walker to pass along to Hyde. Just as Walker took the knife, a foul ball struck him on the hand and drove the blade into his chest over his heart. Walker bled to death within moments.
Fans falling resulted in 15 fatalities at major league games and one at a minor league game.
Capt. E. P. Webb was killed on June 2, 1918, when the military biplane he was flying in crashed on the infield just before the start of a game between the Indianapolis ABCs and a team of Army aviators. Piloted by Maj. Guy Gearhart, the plane was flying 500 feet above the park when it suddenly went into an uncontrolled dive. It slammed into the ground nose-first between second and third, instantly killing Webb and severely injuring Gearhart.
Violence between fans, between fans and players, and between fans and umpires and other field personnel led to 35 deaths. Four of these were at major league games, four at minor league games, and 27 at amateur games. Five fans were killed by thrown objects, eight by bats, two by stabbings, and 20 by shootings.
Heart attacks or other health-related events resulted in 31 fan fatalities at major league games and 13 at amateur games.
Storms and lightning killed two fans at a major league game, six at minor league games, and 14 at amateur games.
Joseph Carter, 60, and Eleanor Price, 17, were trampled to death when a severe thunderstorm caused fans to panic and run for the only exit in the “Ruthville” (right field) section of Yankee Stadium on May 19, 1929. Over 60 others sustained injuries as well.
Baseball Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis was present at a minor league game in Portsmouth, VA, on May 25, 1927, when a sudden hurricane-force windstorm tore the roof off the right field section of the grandstand. Debris crashed down on the huge crowd below, killing Richard McWilliams, 42, and William Barker, 67, and injuring over 30 others. Landis was not injured.
An umpire and four fans were killed instantly when lightning struck a crowd shortly after the conclusion of an amateur game near Mobile, AL, on May 27, 1906. Less than two months later, five fans were killed when lightning hit the grandstand of a baseball park in Manitowoc, MN.
The worse tragedy in baseball history occurred at the Baker Bowl, home of the Philadelphia Phillies, on August 8, 1903. In the fourth inning of a game against the Boston Beaneaters, the balcony overhang atop the left field stands collapsed, hurtling hundreds of fans 30 feet to the street below. Twelve fans were killed and over 300 were injured.
On May 14, 1927, the Baker Bowl was once again the scene of tragedy when three sections of the seating in the lower right field pavilion collapsed, killing Fred Haas, 50, and injuring over 50 other spectators. An autopsy revealed that Haas died of a heart attack brought on Aby excitement and terror of the crash.
Walter Johnson and Christy Mathewson were slated to face each other in an exhibition game in Tulsa, OK, on October 28, 1913. Just before the start of the contest, the right field bleachers collapsed, fatally crushing Chester Taylor, 20, as he walked beneath the stands.
May 29th, 201212:03 am
Hello everyone! I think our best bet is Zack G. from the Brewers, or Dempster? Call up Flande, send Durbin back down. Use Livan as trade bait if you could get some one to go after him? Trade Diaz, and Jiack Wilson. Call up Todd Cunningham, or Parraz.Then call up Simmons for SS. — Ward
I think the Braves should trade Mac, keep Boscan up and make him the everyday catcher. With the money they save for Mac, they can make a trade for Jo Jo Reyes – and be able to afford to pay him what he’s worth.
Reyes can take Venters place after the Braves DFA-him. Trade all the season ticket-holders in the RF seats to the Cards. Yeah, we’ll have to throw some money into that package to sweeten it up – but we need some fans that can make some noise.
May 29th, 2012
MIBravesFan – That “September Song” was written in 1938 – a bit before “When September Comes”…’
Not discounting it, VJ.
VJ – I know Durbin has been better, but how long will that last?
May 29th, 201212:04 am
MIBravesFan – I haven’t had a chance to watch this yet, but here is Bruce from the last couple of days:
May 29th, 201212:06 am
Ward – I’d be more concerned with ongoing lack of performance
May 29th, 201212:08 am
some seriously good suggestions there, Bobby H
May 29th, 201212:09 am
May 29th, 2012
May 29th, 201212:10 am
VJ – What bothers me is lack of performance for the Braves, the players heads hanging down after they lose. Not being mean, but it’s like there is no life in the team. Still trying to be hopeful, but it doesn’t look good as of now.
May 29th, 201212:12 am
bitch about them hanging their heads in a loss, or bitch about them not caring about losing. we can get em either way guys….
May 29th, 201212:14 am
Not bitching nolie, just what I saw. Hope for better tomorrow though.
Didn’t John McSherry die on the field?
May 29th, 201212:15 am
They should all be beheaded – eliminate the confusion…
May 29th, 201212:16 am
Big John was a big man…
The 6′-2″ (188 cm) McSherry was officially listed at 328 pounds (149 kg), but some sources place his true weight possibly close to 400 pounds (180 kg); it was generally accepted to have been a major factor in the massive, fatal heart attack he suffered on the field during the opening game of the 1996 major league season in Cincinnati, Ohio on April 1, 1996.
May 29th, 201212:17 am
Ropespierre is on the blog
May 29th, 201212:18 am
Every morning at the mine you could see him arrive…
Vietnam HD Is on History Channel 2. Some real interesting stuff.
yeah he had a heart attack on opening day in Cincy just a few pitches into the game. I was listening to that game when he went down
May 29th, 201212:20 am
He stood 6 foot 6 and weighed 285…
So I assume VJ that he collapsed on the field and died off the field?
Kind of broad at the shoulders and narrow at the hips…
May 29th, 201212:21 am
man, he was almost as big as nolie
May 29th, 201212:22 am
All, have a good one! Hope for a win tomorrow…….Going down with the good, and the Bad……Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
If I also remember Big John had to leave Game 7 of the ‘92 NLCS…..cost him a place on the Sid Bream bobblehead.
May 29th, 201212:23 am
Seven pitches into the game, McSherry called a time-out, spoke briefly to Reds catcher Eddie Taubensee, and walked slowly towards the Reds’ dugout. Moments after signaling for the second base umpire to come in and replace him, McSherry stumbled and collapsed. Despite all efforts to resuscitate McSherry, he was pronounced dead, at age 51, at University of Cincinnati Hospital within the hour.
It was later revealed that McSherry had actually been scheduled for a medical examination the following day. As the Reds’ Opening Day in Cincinnati is seen as a special occasion, McSherry likely didn’t want to risk missing out on an assignment he felt was an honor. Third-base umpire Tom Hallion followed the ambulance to the UC medical center, leaving umpires Steve Rippley and Jerry Crawford to decide how to proceed regarding the game. Shaken and tearful players on both teams consoled the grieving umpires, and ultimately it was decided that it would be best to postpone the game.
May 29th, 201212:24 am
I didn’t remember that ABomb
It should have been spelled with a p, or perhaps a g. Thugs come in all shapes and sizes in history, don’t they?
May 29th, 201212:26 am
And everybody knew you didn’t give no lip to Big John…
May 29th, 201212:28 am
I’m talking about Robespierre and you’re talking about something that mattered … I screwed up . . . .
I think of all things McSherry had chest pains and had to leave and that’s when Marsh came in.
HUGE hit back in my HS days for Jimmy Dean written by the Acuffs.
May 29th, 201212:30 am
Just finished the season finale of Person of Interest – Michael Emerson is really good, even when he’s not Ben Linus…
May 29th, 201212:31 am
yeah good show, and unlike a lot of them that I like it is actually coming back I think
May 29th, 201212:32 am
May 29th, 2012
HUGE hit back in my HS days for Jimmy Dean written by the Acuffs.”
I didn’t know who wrote it but I knew who sang it!
It is indeed…
May 29th, 201212:33 am
Jimmy Dean became a big presence in Richmond after he married Donna Meade – took the river cruise past his house before it burned down…
May 29th, 201212:34 am
MIBravesFan – watching the Spirit in the Night video I just linked – very good…
Did Big Bad John get so strong from eating Jimmy Dean sausage?
May 29th, 201212:35 am
What is the deal with the houses burning down? Johnny and June’s did, too.
May 29th, 201212:36 am
May 29th, 2012
Did Big Bad John get so strong from eating Jimmy Dean sausage?”
May 29th, 201212:41 am
Good night, good people of the blog – it has been enjoyable for the past hour, for a change…
May 29th, 201212:42 am
“Galveston” by Glen Campbell was a cool song from the old days…..my mom was in love with him when I was a child……she had all his old vinyls…….Wichita Lineman, etc.
May 29th, 201212:44 am
Galveston is an excellent song – not unusual for Jimmy Webb…
Larry Bowa came over behind the plate during batting practice during the mid 70’s when he was with the Phillies at old Fulton County Stadium and started “hittin” on my momma……guess she was hot then…..
May 29th, 201212:45 am
I have always been a big admirer of Good Time Glen…
May 29th, 201212:48 am
“Trying to get him killed? You got the wrong sport. People don’t die in baseball.” – Skeeterlag
Ray Chapman did.
May 29th, 201212:51 am
Angels 7 in a row…..wins that is. Must feel good.
May 29th, 201212:54 am
May 29th, 2012
I have always been a big admirer of Good Time Glen…”
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