Braves quotes after Monday loss to St. Louis

**FREDI GONZALEZ

On how to break out of this slump

“Good pitching, good hitting, timely hitting, scoring some runs like we had been doing early on in the season. Right now we’re not doing either of those two things, but the one thing we’re doing [is] you see our team playing hard. And they’re not giving up. They’re battling. But two runs a game ain’t cutting it and giving up four or five is not doing it either. Go out tomorrow and get a good pitching performance and score some runs.”

On believing that team is still mentally in it

“Absolutely, these guys are playing the game hard, just got no runs for it.”

On Hanson’s four-run inning and other deficits making it hard on offense

“I think starting pitching sets the tone. I thought getting out of the bases loaded jam with no outs facing the middle of the order, I thought it was going to give us a boost, give Tommy a boost to keep going. He got into another jam in the second and got out of it. Maybe he just tired out. I don’t want to give anybody any excuses and just couldn’t overcome those two high-pitch innings, and we got behind the eight-ball. We got back in it, scoring two runs, and Lynn kept us off-balance. We didn’t do much for the rest of the night.”

On starters’ struggles last time through rotation

“We’ve always been known for our pitching, and we will. We’re just going through a stretch right now. It sets the tone. Starting pitching sets the tone. It takes you deep in ballgames. It keeps you in ballgames. And for the most part, I can’t remember the last time…I guess in Cincinnati we had two good performances. But here at home, other than Huddy, we haven’t really had some performances going deep in ballgames. You get behind the eight-ball, and right now offensively we haven’t been able to recover from that.”

On if McCann got through the game OK

“He did, which was surprising. I thought with the temperature and the humidity and that kind of stuff, I thought he was going to struggle. But that’s a good sign. I kept checking with him every inning or so and he said he was fine.”

On Hinske hitting into the shift, smiling like, what else can I do?

“Exactly. He hit the ball hard and I think we had something going at that time. He hit the ball hard right at somebody and that guy made a great play. He not only shifted him, he made a great effort to stop that ball from getting down in the corner. They shifted him the next at-bat, and he almost made that play too. that line drive that got the base hit. that’s all you can do as a hitter, you’ve got to try to hit the ball hard. You can’t control where that ball’s going and you can’t control where they’re shifting. So I think that smile was because there’s nothing else I can do. I put a good swing on it, and he made a hell of a play.”

**TOMMY HANSON

On working out of jams in 1st and 2nd innings, but not 3rd

“I was just trying to go out and compete and give my team a good start. That didn’t happen. I felt like my fastball command wasn’t there today. It was at times, but not as consistently as it needed to be. Against a good hitting team, that’s not a good recipe.”

On whether 30-pitch first inning took much out of him

“I still felt good going into the second and third. I don’t think it took anything out of me. It was just a battle to get through.”

On the play that he and Hinske nearly collided on near 1st base, sign of how things have been going?

“I don’t know. It was just one of those in-between plays. I probably could have made a better effort to get it. It was just kind of in-between. That’s kind of how it’s been going lately. We’ve got to do something to get this monkey off our back.”

Any pressure on pitchers this week because of offense sputtering

“Not in my situation. I wanted to go out and give us a quality start and give our team a chance to win. I think today was more of my fastball command and my inability to make pitches when I needed to. I made them at times, but I wasn’t consistently making the pitches I needed to make against a good offensive team like the Cardinals.”

On team not panicking despite longest losing skid since April 2010

“I don’t think anybody’s panicking right now. Obviously when we come to the field we want to win that game. But nobody’s panicking around here. We’re still above .500 right now, and as soon as we start playing good …. we know we were just in first place. We were just beating teams and sweeping teams and taking two out of three. So we know once we’re healthy and back playing well, we’re going to win games and we’re going to be there in the end.”

Is it health, or playing poorly, or a combination of both lately?

“We need our guys to get healthy and to be out there, but there’s nothing we can do about it right now. We’ve got to work with what we’ve got. And we’ve got to compete. A lot of our loss today was my inability to go out there and compete and give us a chance to win. Giving up six runs in three innings when we’re not playing well isn’t going to get the job done. I took a lot of the blame today. We’ve got to do a better job of competing and trying to win these games.”

**BRIAN McCANN

Feel pretty good today?

“Yeah, I did. I felt fine today. I couldn’t have picked a better day to come back [weather-wise].”

On third inning blowing up on Hanson after earlier escape acts

“Yeah, it did. That’s a good hitting team. They capitalize on mistakes. We got crossed up there in the fourth [McCann expecting fastball, got curveball] to let a run score, and that inning just kept going.

“We’ve got to turn this thing around soon. We’ve got to swing the bats a little bit better, and play all phases of the games a little bit better.”

On losing skid

“We were rolling in Tampa, and then Chip went down and Freeman went down and I went down. That’s 4-5-6 in the middle of the order. You take that out of anybody’s lineup, team’s going to suffer. We’ve just got to stay afloat. We got ourselves off to a really good start. We hit a bump in the road here. We have to bear down and start winning some games.”

On if team’s still there mentally, not checking out, etc

“Oh, we’re there. We’re showing up, we’re working, we’re just not seeing results on the field right now. We know we’re going to continue to show up and battle, and get this thing turned around, hopefully tomorrow.”

On it only taking a big start, a big hit to get things going in right direction

“We just need that big outing, that big knock, to get a win. Now when you get one win, especially when you’re on a long losing streak, anything can happen. We just need to get that one tomorrow. We’re not playing the best baseball now, that’s for sure. So we’ve got to turn it around.”

*** MICHAEL BOURN

On team’s slump

“To be honest, it starts with me. It’s the truth. In the first part of the season when we were starting off rough, I was starting off rough. The part where we were going good, I was going good. I don’t know, it just seems like when I’m going good, the offense is going good. We get more hits, we get more runs. It’s like it’s contagious or something.

“But right now, I might have one good game, then I have a bad one.”

“Today was one of them days where we battled, but they beat us in every facet of the game. So we’ve got to find a way to turn it around and try to play better tomorrow. We just need one game to really get us going back on track again. Baseball is really all confidence. You can work on your mechanic, but the rest of it is confidence in your game. That’s how it goes.”

115 comments Add your comment

Brandon

May 28th, 2012
5:35 pm

Gotta love them Braves

eddie57

May 28th, 2012
5:39 pm

Is Freddi the freeloader watching the same games that the fans are? They most definitely are not playing hard or intelligently, Heyward, Pastornicky, Hinske, Ugla…. Heyward reminds me more and more of a not quite as good as Jeff Francoeur. He hasn’t given us a 100 RBI season and looks sloppy compared to Jeff in the outfield. I wanted to get rid of Jeff and now I think Jayson should be traded before he loses anymore value.

Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow

May 28th, 2012
5:46 pm

MANAGER OF THE YEAR AMIRITE?!

Let's Go

May 28th, 2012
5:49 pm

DOB
Good Question – “On believing that team is still mentally in it”

The team I watched today looked wasted and beaten. I find it strange that Fredi brings up during the first question “you see our team playing hard. And they’re not giving up.” Maybe he saw it too and was taking a bullet for them early on.

Randal Patrick McMurphy

May 28th, 2012
5:51 pm

Fredi Gonzales… a pedestrian 3rd base coaching talent who managed to get a managers slot. When is it the Braves are gonna figure out that someone with REAL, tangible management skills is going to have to take over this bunch – and good luck with that. They might not be saying it, but these players have already rolled over on Fredi G. Without the presence of at least one bona-fide upper echelon talent & leader on this roster, they’re just kidding themselves. What you see is what you get, the Bad News Braves Redux… some things NEVER change, sheez… :-?

Mister Frisky

May 28th, 2012
5:54 pm

That was a big hot steamer.Playing hard,Hey Fredi we were born at night,but not last night.Fire this Tard now!

Brother Francis

May 28th, 2012
5:55 pm

If this is “battling” and “playing hard”, then no thanks.

bobbyh

May 28th, 2012
6:08 pm

Well, I see that the buzzards are circling again and I don’t think they’ll have to wait much longer for their feast. If we lose again tomorrow, the pressure to fire Fredi will be unreal. Had we not imploded last fall, maybe Fredi would get a reprieve but clearly he doesn’t seem to have what it takes to right the ship.

You guys are entitled to your opinions and Fredi is a public figure which makes him fair game. But this guy has built a heck of a life for himself–overcame a lot of disadvantage–and I personally think that he should be treated with some degree of respect.

Supes

May 28th, 2012
6:08 pm

Nobody is telling the truth or they just don’t want to admit it in public…there is lack of effort, lack of energy, passion and aggression necessary to win in this league, esp. against the 1st place team like the Nats. You can sugar coat this “turd” of a team for so long, but at the end of the day, when you take that bite, you’ll still taste that sh*t…

New leadership is needed from top to bottom…but sadly it won’t happen anytime soon.

North Ga Braves Fan

May 28th, 2012
6:10 pm

Mccann is partially right. t
They are showing up. That’s all though. Oh, one more thing they are collecting a paycheck!

chc4

May 28th, 2012
6:11 pm

I just can’t handle Fredi’s “aw shucks” routine much longer. He is truly unbearable.

Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow

May 28th, 2012
6:13 pm

Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow

May 28th, 2012
6:17 pm

“You guys are entitled to your opinions and Fredi is a public figure which makes him fair game. But this guy has built a heck of a life for himself–overcame a lot of disadvantage–and I personally think that he should be treated with some degree of respect.”

MANAGER OF THE YEAR RIGHT BRO?! Hi five!

scott brantley

May 28th, 2012
6:21 pm

EIGHT IS ENOUGH!

Largo

May 28th, 2012
6:26 pm

Does anyone really give a crap about these quotes. They’re all B… Sh… Especially those from Fredi.

RoyU

May 28th, 2012
6:33 pm

I haven’t seen Wren’s name today. Fredi isn’t exactly the top of the line as a manager but he’s only trying to work with what the owners and Frank gave him. We brought back basically the same team that blew it in 2011 so what more can but we expect than what they gave us last year? As a fan, I appreciate the efforts of “some” of the players but owners that are unwilling to adequately “ante up” to stay in the game – SHOULD FIND ANOTHER PLAYING FIELD and stop contaminating MLB!!!

kelly

May 28th, 2012
6:37 pm

Wow really y’all?
Are you the same people commenting a couple weeks ago about how awesome we were or is this just the group of bloggers who come here and cry, cry, cry????
Bunch of haters.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!
Fredi G is fine and this is not his fault. It’s a slump, we will be back.
MK

Carl Farvman

May 28th, 2012
6:40 pm

The front end of this mess was all about the field dimensions in Cincy. Recall: the top scoring NL team was disadvantaged by a hitters park. This perspective trumpeted by the newspaper/TV/radio entertainment reporters. Now after 8 staight losses reality has set in. The Braves are struggling and it has nothing to do with the size of a park. Where did all these mocking genuises go? The radio guys were impressed after today’s game that they are fighting the fight and taking responsibilty…they tipped the cap [several times] to Bourne for trying to be the leader. A multi-million dollar contract player and they give him the infamous tip of the cap for trying to help provide leadership. Shouldn’t this be a given? C’mon folks.

The Cap Tipper

May 28th, 2012
6:48 pm

Most disheartening quote yet From Fredi Gonzalez: ” Right now we’re not doing either of those two things, but the one thing we’re doing [is] you see our team playing hard. And they’re not giving up”.
WOW…this guy really thinks this team is playing hard and not giving up. Just pathetic, he needs to be fired NOW! If making 18 errors in the last 3 games isnt showing a team that has given up on its weak, excuse-filled manager, then I think the non-existent offense and the pitchers grooving pitches and giving up 23 homers in the last 10 games is. Its bad enough this “manager” is in la-la land and thinks we have a good team, but then the excuses come out, and I mean everything a manager can use to shift blame from himself… small ballpark, bad umpiring, injuries, running into a “hot” team, balls just missing, one bad pitch, one bad inning, guys hitting balls right at them, the baseball gods being against them, etc. etc. etc., and it makes it that much worse. This guy is weak and a coward of a manager, and refusing to admit this team is bad, and it is a great deal his fault is inexcusable. WE HAVE LOST 8 GAMES IN A ROW, AFTER LOSING 6 IN A ROW TO END LAST SEASON!!!

FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ!!!!

FIRE FREDI AND START PUTTING WREN TO THE FIRE!!!

The Cap Tipper

May 28th, 2012
6:57 pm

What Frank Wren and upper management fail to realize is how much this debacle is harming Braves country as a whole, and especially the value of the Braves organization. Failing to fire a man so clearly over his head, downright terrible, and vastly underperforming at his job will drive the fans and stakeholders of the Atlanta Braves away in droves. Look how public reaction would be if Wal-Mart’s CEO lost the company $800 million in one quarter, and the company did nothing and continued about their day. It would be pretty shocking news to most people. The fact is it is long overdue. I was stunned Fredi still had a job after losing 6 straight, and 20 of 30 down the stretch, to gift wrap a playoff birth for the Cardinals. Now he proves he can actually be an even worse coach, by losing 8 in a row, and not even being competitive in 7 of them. The team is quitting on Fredi, and the humane thing to do, and to let fans know (or at least think) you actually care about them…is to fire Fredi. Preferably before tomorrow’s game to let fans know that the Atlanta Braves are always trying to play championship level baseball…

The Cap Tipper

May 28th, 2012
7:02 pm

Mark Bowman just reported that Gonzalez just reported to Frank Wren’s office for an “urgent” meeting. My gut feeling, and why I have been smiling from ear to ear for the past few minutes is that this is Donald Trump, board room time. I LOVE IT…FREDI IS ABOUT TO BE FIRED, and I will never have to see his fat, lazy, uninterested butt in the Braves dugout EVER AGAIN!! I will keep y’all posted as this hasnt gone official…. will keep you updated…..lets keep are fingers crossed Braves country…

Mike S.

May 28th, 2012
7:03 pm

I just heard the Mark Bowman thing too…..doesn’t look good for Fredi.

BarryDawg.

May 28th, 2012
7:04 pm

That leaves us with only one question than: Is Fredi gonna blame the small doors for not being able to get all his stuff out of his office?

ZINGER!!!!

Profiler

May 28th, 2012
7:13 pm

Yes, I am one of the guys who was complimenting the team 2 weeks ago about their success. Am not a fair weather fan either since I was there Fri-Sun.

Having said that, anyone that thinks this team is playing hard and not giving up is in denial. We are not getting beat in 1 or 2 run games, we are getting mashed. The nonchalance of Heyward, the three stooges play of the middle infield, and the mixups on pitches refered to by McCann must be corrected. Some of these players are not starting quality. The pitching has imploded and we cannot blame it on high inning counts this year.

Don’t have answers…it’s not my job. But several people are paid big salaries to fix it and they better do it soon.

Go Braves!

Ralph

May 28th, 2012
7:21 pm

You can’t control where that ball’s going – quote from Fruti

Is that true, or does this idiot not know what he is talking about, why is it that some hitters are pure pull hitters and others can hit to all fields. Maybe it is not a good idea to sign a stright pull hitter.

Turtsnap

May 28th, 2012
7:25 pm

If Freddie Freeman can’t go….. why isn’t he on the DL?

HIVPositive

May 28th, 2012
7:35 pm

I agree with RoyU. Gonzalez can only manage with what he is given. Frank Wren hasn’t tried to make any moves, when it’s obvious we lack a lot of things right now. Enough with the excuses, we are losing these games because we don’t have quality players. I know the Braves don’t have much to work with like the Yankees & Red Sox, but Frank Wren has spent a lot of money on lousy players. Lowe, McClouth, Kawakami, and Uggla. Wren had no problem sending Jurjens down when he was struggling, why isn’t he making any moves right now? This team is obviously struggling!

Ralph

May 28th, 2012
7:35 pm

kelly

May 28th, 2012
6:37 pm
Wow really y’all?
Are you the same people commenting a couple weeks ago about how awesome we were or

No Kelly these are not the same people, those people are hiding under the bed.

Larry

May 28th, 2012
7:38 pm

Supes,

Well put…thanks!

NickGranite

May 28th, 2012
7:49 pm

Fredi’s aw shucks routine is a routine….as it is with most managers. Why would a manager tear down someone he eats,drinks, sleeps, laughs, cries etc with for 7-8 months out of the year for a reporter or…us. In general, you don’t tear down individuals in public, that’s leadership 101. What he does behind closed doors is all that matters.

NickGranite

May 28th, 2012
7:54 pm

We were commenting a couple of weeks ago how awesome we were because we were awesome. Now we’re not. All we can comment on is what’s before us and right now it’s a mess. No one holds it against the brave’s if they’re not hitting as well given the circumstances but when the play starts getting sloppy and the pitching starts to suck how are we supposed to comment? I’m still a brave’s fan tomorrow but this is real time and right now in real time, we suck. If we are great next week then that’s what we’ll say.

Brandon

May 28th, 2012
7:57 pm

@NickGranite – well said

@The Cap Tipper – where did you hear about the urgent meeting?

Mark Duncan

May 28th, 2012
8:09 pm

I really don’t know what has been going on in the Braves clubhouse and if the team has actually given up on Fredi. All that us fans can do is watch the games and base our evaluations from them. However, this is somewhat of a unique situation considering the choke at the end of last year. What is happening now must be viewed with an eye to what went down last September. It seems that when a crisis arrives, ie the sprial choke of 2011 or this current losing streak, the team just does not respond to Gonzalez. Is it fair to put the blame soley on him? Of course not. But to quote the Grateful Dead, He’s Gone.

Hosea Williams

May 28th, 2012
8:12 pm

I was at the game, great tribute to the troops. The braves players were beaten before they got on the field, all of them are walking around with their heads down…this is on the manager to motivate. If he cannot he can get out of town tomorrow and I will TIP my HAT to him.

Tweet

May 28th, 2012
8:25 pm

All these Braves quotes are quotes we read back in September
The same dribble,blah blah blah….
PLUS CA CHANGE PLUS C’EST LA MEME CHOSE!!!!!

Wren and Gonzalez…TAR AND FEATHER THESE DOLTS!

Frank from KS (now in CO)

May 28th, 2012
8:26 pm

@ The Cap Tipper & Mike S. – We can only hope Fredi DOES get his %$#@ fired! God, we can only hope!

ifr4

May 28th, 2012
8:57 pm

Bowman reported no such thing that I’ve found. He hasn’t tweeted in the last 2 hours, and doesn’t have a new blog entry. The only place I haven’t checked is MLB Trade Rumors. If there’s nothing about it there, I’m calling BS on that crap.

TOMY FOURNIER

May 28th, 2012
8:58 pm

FROM THE BEGIINING I SAID THAT THIS TEAM WAS AND IS A “MEDIOCRE” TEAM AND NOT A CONTENDER…WAS TRUE???..YES IT WAS AND IT IS…FIRE FREDDY MONKEY DUNKEY AND MAKE SOME TRADE, LOOKING FOR A LEFT FIELD WITH POWER AND A SS AND FIRE HERNANDEZ AND GAS CAN DURBIN AND LOOK FOR AAA AND MAY BE ONE OF THIS GUY COUL BE A GOOD STARTER,BETTER THAN THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW ( MAKE A MOVE FOR OSWALD, TOO) AND TALK WITH OTHERS TEAM FOR MAKE TRADE LOOKING FOR A BETTER PITCHER FOR THREE OR FOUR INNINGS(LONG RELIEVERS)…FOR ME, THIS IS THE SOLUTION…FOR NOW AND I HOPE THEY MAKE A MOVE…RIGHT NOW!!!!

Charlie

May 28th, 2012
9:01 pm

This is basically the same CHOKE team of September, 2011. Wren did nothing over the winter. Fredi has not learned to manage a major league baseball team. Why does anyone think that the 2012 results will be any differen than last year?

Bluedad

May 28th, 2012
9:11 pm

Maybe Fredi should try being a professional manager and not the players friend. Calling the players Bourney, Huddy, and assorted “buddy” names for each makes him sound like he wants to be — or is — beer buddies with them. He is the manager, but acts like a frat boy friend with them. I doubt they feel he is in charge as much as just hanging around covering for them. I have never heard any pro manager refer to his players like Fredi does.

Marvin Mangrum

May 28th, 2012
9:20 pm

Fire all of them, starting at Wren, going to the pitching coach to the not manager to all of them, hell go to Missisippi and replace them all. hell even fire the announcer… Get rid of this crap, cause its crap, I coached kids, gawd amighty they were better than this crap. I wouldnt watch these old women if they were butt nekkid in a damn rainstorm. Hell water might wash off the stink. Stay home, dont go. Dont watch. When and if they win 9 of 10 watch. Not even a good minor league team.

hiway61

May 28th, 2012
9:24 pm

ifr4 is right ..Bowman has made no statements..Lies from above blogger.

Big John S. needs to fire Frank Wren , Fredi plus McDowell.

Ty Cobb's Soul

May 28th, 2012
9:27 pm

Frank: Why the Hank Aaron are we in a death spiral?
Fredi: The guys are playing hard, Mr. Wren, they’re battling and….
Frank: Cut the crap, Frankie!
Fredi: It’s Fredi.
Frank: I don’t care.
Fredi: I need a drink. C-Mart, you’re driving!

Marvin Mangrum

May 28th, 2012
9:27 pm

One more thing, sorry one more thing. With Chipper the Braves were on streak to win 108 games, unfortunately he only played 31 so they lost 121. Shut up a bout freaking Chipper. Only a moron, only an idiot would say by golly gee whiz theyre 19 and 5 with Chipper, theyre the Braves, or were, not the freaking chipperettes! Or is it chipperoos. You folks that buy tickets to see this crap, dang, dang! And I will go away, never again, enuf is enuf.

Marvin Mangrum

May 28th, 2012
9:34 pm

Sorry, I do not give a flying poop what Fredi overcame, his job is to get the Braves a pennant, he is about as good as Miss Pookey Dookey!

Tweet

May 28th, 2012
9:40 pm

Wren will make the only make he can….nothing,as usual

alex

May 28th, 2012
9:59 pm

right with you charlie;no changes and expect an improvement, FW is incompetent….

brave thought

May 28th, 2012
10:02 pm

fire fredi replace him with chipper as a player/ manager.

OTP

May 28th, 2012
10:04 pm

Put the GA Tech team on the field!

Greg

May 28th, 2012
10:11 pm

“Good pitching, good hitting, timely hitting, scoring some runs like we had been doing early on in the season. Right now we’re not doing either of those two things…”

Now, I may not be smart enough to be a major league baseball manager like Fredi here, but isn’t that four things?

Gene

May 28th, 2012
11:08 pm

I recall going to a Braves’ game in September, 1967, and there were less than a thousand fans present. Perhaps something like that would get the attention of the bean counters at Liberty Media.

BarryDawg.

May 28th, 2012
11:23 pm

YES!!! Lets organize a formal strike on Turner Field!! That means no fans show up for Wednesday’s game.. Is that too soon? I dont know how long these things take to organize, but I figure if we facebook/twitter it all tommorrow, we can be successful by Wednesday’s game. right? Does anyone have a way to get this viral? I am so serious about this. lets do it!!!!

fordcobra

May 28th, 2012
11:24 pm

Jones as a potential coach maybe, manager NO, player when? Check his last few seasons injureeeee!
Time to say Good Night Dick! Make some moves that may hurt and move the heck on!! I am embarrassed to even talk about this mess. Maybe we need to cut payroll some more, that might help,
at least our Colorado Based Owners might think so.

Kevin

May 28th, 2012
11:36 pm

If anyone remembers Bull Durham, some of these guys need to be reminded they could be selling “Lady Kenmores” if this crap continues.

The Sage

May 28th, 2012
11:38 pm

“NEVER underestimate the power of poor of managerial decisions to demoralize a team.”

The Sage

PMC

May 28th, 2012
11:43 pm

Love Bourn’s answer.

trade rumors

May 29th, 2012
12:06 am

BRAKING NEWS

TRADE RUMORS : ATLANTA BRAVES…

THE BRAVES TRADES JULIO TEHERAN, JUAN FRANCISCO AND TODD REDMOND TO THE CHICAGO WHITE SOX FOR ADAM DUNN AND ALEXEI RAMIREZ

tradeee rumors

May 29th, 2012
12:11 am

THE ATLANTA BRAVES TRADES CHAD DURBIN TO THE BREWERS IN EXCHANGE FOR BROOKS CONRAD

THE ATLANTA BRAVES 3RD BASEMAN CHIPPER JONES ANNOUNCES HIS RETIRE THIS JUNE AND IS NAMED THE NEW ATLANTA BRAVES MANAGER, FREDI GONZALEZ IS THE NEW 3RD BASE COACH AND SNITKER IS FIRED

THE ATLANTA BRAVES CALL UP JAIR JURRJENS AND SEND DOWN MIKE MINOR TO AAA
THE ATLANTA BRAVES SIGN FREE AGENT ROY OSWALT FOR THE REMAINING SEASON

RESULTS AFTER TRADES

May 29th, 2012
12:17 am

C MCCAAN
1B FREEMAN
2B UGGLA
3B PRADO
SS RAMIREZ
LF DUNN
CF BOURN
RF HEYWARD

SP HUDSON
SP BEACHY
SP HANSON
SP OSWALT
SP DELGADO

BULLPEN: MARTINEZ HERNANDEZ VENTERS OFLAHERTY KIMBREL MEDLEN AND THE POSSIBILITY OF CALL UP MOYLAN OR GEARRIN

BENCH: ROSS DIAZ HINSKE CONRAD WILSON (OR CONSTANZA)

LINE UP

BOURN
PRADO
FREEMAN
DUNN
UGGLA
MCCAAN
RAMIREZ
HEYWARD

SUDDENLY …. I WAKE UP AND ALL IT’S A DREAM LOL

Th@ f@ black chick

May 29th, 2012
1:45 am

uhh, Bluedad, I guess this is your first season as a classic Atlanta-”Fan” (aka fair weather), but the whole nickname thing–like um, Huddy, is something that Bobby Cox ALWAYS used to do, so please, feel free to snap on Bobby Cox, and ALL of his seasons for that dreadful, frat-friend mentality, because, I used to watch TBS, and then Peachtree TV, et all, and LOVE listening to all of Bobby’s nicknames. BTW, nicknames have NO THING to do with wnning or losing–it’s just love.

2nd, AMEN bobbyh, the 12 year olds stealing away at the keyboards again–this is real U-G-A obssessive compulisive annoying fan disorder syndrome at it’s MOST annoying–soon as the team loses, FIRE THAT RICHT!!! Soon as the team wins, MAN, RICHT–he’s like the GREATEST–up his salary!!!

Lastly, Atlanta fans annoy me. Period. UH-NOI-ME to the UTTERMOST PEAK of insanity. They get up in the middle of the game and exit stadiums in large, loud, tacky masses, and THEN complain that the players aren’t playing well enough for THEM! Well, next time you leave half-way through a game that doesn’t go your way, just ask yourself any of the following questions:

A. How would I feel if I had to watch on the nightly local sports reports, or listen during any daylight local radio broadcast the DISRESPECT that Atlanta know-it-all FAUX “fans” dish out on their OWN players, and if I had to play again while watching half the stadium leave, wearing MY team’s colors, in MY team’s stadium, how would that affect my morale while playing? Does that give me the HEART for this city? PUH LEASE,

I KNOWWWWWWWWWWWW these gentlemen are getting paid more than many to swing sticks, toss balls into baskets, and defend Matt Ryan, etc, but they are HUMAN BEINGS, with emotions, hearts, etc–it’s sad enough to lose ANY game, it just adds insult to injury when you have NO SUPPORT system after you lose. Look New Orleans, pre super bowl win a few years back, you couldn’t tell their fans SQUAWT!!! They LOVED their team–lose, lose, or win, and THAT’S what was in the hearts of Drew Breezy and his boiz (yes, I spelled boys wrong on purpose) when they fought that season and became the NFL champions–they were fighting, blocking, tackling, throwing and catching in love!!!!!

Fair-weather is one thing, but trashing your own players in public, like they don’t hear or read this crap, is NOT going to get you much of that heart you claim these teams lack, to get you the wins that you claim you want. Garbage in, garbage out! Talk trash, don’t roll over shocked when you get stinky loses in return. We can chicken and egg this thing all day long–if they win the fans will come (they won’t, but the REAL fans will, and the REAL fans show up (whether it’s to the park, or online listening 680 from Japan or whatever station you can pick up in AL, or whether it’s watching on the Tele), or if we come they will win….but love is what makes the Packers in Greenbay SUPER, what makes the Red Birds in St. Louie WORLDS, and, along with referree cheating, what gets Kevin Gar’s old behind up and down that green n white court to try and silence Miami.

There’s a REASON why the Bravos had (or have, still, IDK) a steller ON THE ROAD streak, it’s because the get heart from those fans in the away game stadiums–you’d be shocked at what love, can inspire. You can be weak, and on your last legs, but get a little song on the radio, or a call from your girlfriend or boyfriend, or that crush, and all of a sudden, you’re like the Energizer bunny.

Atlanta, if you don’t want loser teams, QUIT acting like loser “fans.”

Th@ f@ black chick

May 29th, 2012
1:53 am

Oh, and don’t diss the Skipper, if you’re so concerned about the ship sinking! You can’t possibly be on the boat! That’s like berating a stressed out pilot and crew whilst the plane is malfunctioning, and yelling in his ear while he’s trying to land the thing into the Huddy (Hudson River, Scully or Sully, whatever his name was, landing).

None of this is worth a hill of beans as my Grandmother would probably have put it, but I’ve been wanting to snap on ATLANTA fans for years!

You never talk bad about the family (DUH)! And for all of the 12 year olds and the RUDE comments, family was used as a metaphor for TEAM!

And. I’m. Out!

Th@ f@ black chick

May 29th, 2012
1:59 am

at what point did NO ONE but me see the REST Of Fredi’s quote: “…But two runs a game ain’t cutting it and giving up four or five is not doing it either.”

I mean, why post only 1/2 of the man’s statement, but again, I’m wasting my breath [fingers--typing].

Mister Frisky

May 29th, 2012
2:18 am

Just got back from Angel game against Yanks.Send Mc Cann and Heyworthless to Angels for Mark Trumbo.Angels have too many outfielders and are a RH heavy line up with crap for catchers.We get a real outfielder in return.

bill

May 29th, 2012
8:03 am

I bet Wrenn told fredi he was behind him 100% and to stay he course. It will work out. Wrenn isn’t going to get rid of fredi without Cox’s ok and he will do what he did as a manager when the team had great talent and little fire, NOTHING. Cox would not come back would he? OH my God I think I just threww up in my mouth!

TPic

May 29th, 2012
8:50 am

Um, ‘Chip’, ‘Huddy’, ‘Prad’, ‘Smoltz-ie’, and so on are not nicknames. Nails, The Cobra, Pops, Oil Can, etc. – those are nicknames. Taking someone’s name and adding a letter or taking one off (Bourney, Beach, Ross-y) don’t qualify. Neither does calling anyone whose name you cannot remember ‘Kid’. Both Cox and Gonzalez are the only two managers I’ve ever heard do this.

Jferrebee

May 29th, 2012
9:02 am

Fredi is a terrible manager and I know Frank Wren does not know talent but Roger Mcdowell is not a pitching coach. Since he took over no young arm has excelled. We keep hearing about all these young arms the Braves have and where are they at. How has he kept his job this long?

Preston Hannitized

May 29th, 2012
9:28 am

What has happened to the Braves farm system? Is there no talent down there even as just fill in players? Or, are the Braves too cheap to bring players up and “start the clock” on their contract status? I am not saying I know the answers to any of these questions, I am just asking. Boscan? Really?

Buddy Landel

May 29th, 2012
9:32 am

So can we assume that the Cap Tipper and Mike S. are the same loser, since the Fredi meeting was BS? See 7:02 and 7:03. Call ‘em out DOB!

reckingball

May 29th, 2012
9:41 am

Ralph @7:35am………Ralphie, you, and all of your buddies on these blogs, must be feeling pretty good, now that the Braves are losing.
Enjoy it, while it last.
Ya’ll are some awesome fans.
The Braves will turn it around.
go braves

what of it?

May 29th, 2012
9:58 am

I may actually stop watching the games. I can’t remember a time when I’ve said that. FG is playing a really tired tune and not fooling anybody. there’s a total lack of fight or discipline in this team, and they certainly cannot cope with adversity.

pat

May 29th, 2012
10:02 am

3-5 is a bad stretch. 0-8 is abysmal. When the Braves are good, they are competative. When they are bad they simply cannot win. We cannot continue like that.
These guys have to be able to scratch out wins when there are pieces missing. Nobody has it perfect all year.

pat

May 29th, 2012
10:07 am

I heard Francona is looking for a job… Just sayin’ the Sox should have never let him go. The Valentine experiment is yielding the expected results.

Eddie

May 29th, 2012
10:13 am

I cannot endorse Fredi as a MLB manager. He has been tested (twice) and found wanting. But nobody on this board can blame him for Freeman’s eyes, Chipper’s bone bruise, McCann’s flu, or the pitchers’ pitch selection and location. Players execute, or at least they should. If not they may be executed (figuratively, of course)

TPic

May 29th, 2012
10:14 am

Am I the only one surprised at this? Not once in this downfall have we heard about a team meeting. At what point does the manager (or a team leader if such an animal existed) call everyone together to address the crisis? How many more effortless, poorly executed and fundamentally inept games do they have before someone cares enough to play better? Losing is tolerable (even in bunches) when you play hard and smart and get beat by a better team that given day. But losing because you are unprepared, not focused and not driven is just unacceptable…Or maybe it is.

JJ Rivers

May 29th, 2012
10:15 am

I just think Chipper could do a better coaching job than Freddi. I can imagine how hard is to be a MLB coach and everything but right now it’s like we just need a leader and when Chipper is not in the lineup, that’s when we really suffer ! Sorry to be a hater but I vote for Freddi out. This is too much of a great team to be on a game losing streak like this !!

cowdogit

May 29th, 2012
10:20 am

Seven years the braves pitching staff has broken down. My question to Bobby Cox is how many years do we have to wait for McDowell to turn things around ?

TPic

May 29th, 2012
10:21 am

Francona may be a better choice – I don’t know. But I am concerned about his approach at least as an announcer. In the Sunday night telecast he defended Heyward for booting yet another easy play allowing a runner to score. Francona talked about two different grasses at Turner Field, how the ball snakes, etc. – anything but point out that Heyward just completely misplayed it. (Fredi Cox ‘handled it’ a couple weeks earlier when Prado did the same thing). I think it’s funny how this only happens to the Braves outfielders in a park where they play 81 times a year and yet opposing players have never had this issue. Maybe the two corner clowns should watch Bourne. When it happened to him, he got down like a catcher to make sure he made the play.

TPic

May 29th, 2012
10:40 am

Hey, here’s an idea. If you are unsure how balls behave on the ground in the outfield – take fielding practice. I realize this is asking a lot and would cut into golf, cards, cartoons, whatever. But as a person who attends games I would at least once like to see outfielders shagging balls (from a coach, not jogging after BP hits), working on throws, playing the wall, etc. It couldn’t hurt.

Buddy Landel

May 29th, 2012
10:53 am

TPic- Balls rolling in uneven grass are as unpredictable as a knuckleball.

TPic

May 29th, 2012
10:58 am

Buddy – You’re right and I understand your point. But shouldn’t they be as unpredictable for both teams? Especially visiting ones who rarely get to practice how to handle those chances? I can recall three times in the last 7 or 8 home games where this has happened to the Braves. My point was that if you KNOW (as a player) that this is an issue, wouldn’t that be something work working on?

TPic

May 29th, 2012
11:01 am

worth, not work

Ebenezer Snerdberg

May 29th, 2012
11:23 am

Fire Havana Fats!

Buddy Landel

May 29th, 2012
11:43 am

DOB, or whomever is monitoring at the moment, 11:26 and 11:27 is not me. Please delete and ban the IP of those posts. THANKS

jim

May 29th, 2012
11:54 am

Maybe it (ball snaking in the OF grass) only happens to Braves OFs is because there are a lot more hits to the OF when the opponents are hitting than when the Braves are up. The opponents get fewer opportunities to misplay hard grounders.

Tommy

May 29th, 2012
12:09 pm

@black chick and reckingball…. Where will all these jerks be when we are in WS. Answer: Crying in their beer and no where in site. Be a true fan and love them win or lose. They dont know how. Tiki li hue shu lo.

jim

May 29th, 2012
12:11 pm

The real breakdown of the organization is reflected in the minor league system. There is no position player at AAA to whom one can point that could offer real help to the ML roster. At AA there are Simmons, Bethancourt, Gattis, and Cunningham who could be labeled prospects, but all are in their first two months (or less) of AA ball and realistically not quite ready for prime time. The Lynchburg team may have some decent talent, but nobody that makes the top 50 or even 75 prospects lists. The cupboard is pretty bare. Oswalt is not going to get this year’s team into the playoffs any more (actually less) than Tex did. It is time to restock the farm system, not spend on short-term vets who won’t really make much of a difference anyway.

2011champs

May 29th, 2012
12:22 pm

Well, the Braves could actually win the season series if they can win one of the remaining 2 games with the Cardinals, which might be hard to do. Watching the Braves play, it is obvious to me what their biggest problem is…. no leadership; not on the field nor in the dugout. Do you really think the Nationals have a better team? Really? The Braves have alot of talent, but I have said several times this season, and will repeat myself again when I say that they are NOT a playoff team. They do have the talent to be, but there is no one who will stand up and kick them in the rear and take over as a leader on the team. When the Cardinals take the field, they know that they should win. That is how the Phillies play, and also the Nationals. The Braves are clueless. They go out thinking that they might have a chance to win, maybe. They need another Crime Dog to pick them up. What about Chipper, you ask? Well, he has run his mouth through the years, and seldom was able to back it up. Now, he is an over the hill, oft injured, 40 yr. old, who is only a part-time player, and part-timers are not leaders. He should go ahead and retire, so that the team will realize he is no longer there, and can move on. Someone has to step up… Freeman, BMac, Heyward, somebody. Until someone does, the Braves will never play to their potential.

Tommy

May 29th, 2012
12:27 pm

@2011 What makes you an expert? They were winning before. They will win again and become2012CHAMPS

Bob

May 29th, 2012
12:43 pm

Typical of Atlanta “Fair Weather Fans”. They were winning before, they will win again, they’re in a slump it happens sheeeez, it’s a 162 game season. Take a deep breath…….there…there…..It’ll be alright :)

Tommy

May 29th, 2012
12:47 pm

@Bob Hello my friend. Finally a true brave fan. Welcome on board.

Joel

May 29th, 2012
1:01 pm

I’m tired of this fan debate thing here in Atlanta. I am a huge fan. Have been for 36 years. There are a lot of old farts here that will just let the Braves get away with murder. Look, they are not playing well. They are not in the game. They do not connect with the fans. You can’t lose this many and not say something. Not in any sport. If you are ok with 8 game losing streak, then there is something wrong with you. You have to be hard on this team and let them know that if they don’t perform, then they will not have fan support. Simple as that. I will not take my family in 90 degree heat to a ballpark in the ghetto and spend $200 for a losing effort. Fair weather my arse. I want results. Be competitive day in and out. We are not doing that in Atlanta anymore. And no more Hoo-Hum there are 162 games and they’ll bounce back. I don’t see anybody refunding my $200 for that garbage game on Memorial Day. Get better or sell them team. Enough of the sub-par approach from these idiot mediocre coaches, owners and fans.

Rick

May 29th, 2012
1:03 pm

I am still here Tommy! True Fans dont die! We might be worried right now, but it is hard to kill us off!

Tommy

May 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

@Joel Poor baby. He is mistreated because he thinks he wasted his money. Just another fair weather fan If you dont like the team,STAY HOME.

Tommy

May 29th, 2012
1:08 pm

Hi Rick How are you.? I completely agree. Still on your WS train. Save me a seat

alex

May 29th, 2012
1:08 pm

@ Rick, the FW and FG are aiming for you right now, DUCK!
@Joel, thank goodness we have a FAN that does not cheer for mediocrity….

Tommy

May 29th, 2012
1:27 pm

@alex Another troll and fair weather fan. Moga Moga Chi Chi Miki lau so. Shi Hu Alex.

Bob

May 29th, 2012
1:28 pm

I love the Braves, I have all of my life, There have been downs, and Ups, and downs, but if your a Fan you don’t stop rooting for them everytime things don’t go well, then Jump on the “Bandwagon” when they start winning. No I am not happy with an 8 game loosing streak, I want them to win every game (but I know thats not realistic), but I’ll be darned if I’m going to stop loving my Braves everytime the chips are down!!!

Tommy

May 29th, 2012
1:33 pm

Where can I buy tickete for your bandwagon. Go Braves!!!

Brickhead OKelly

May 29th, 2012
2:15 pm

Remembering how the Braves blew a good lead last Sept keeps fans cynical what this team is all about anyways. Seems like they dont know how to handle prosperity. They went stupid after sweeping the Cardinals on St.Louis home stadium and should have been high as a kite,but since then,they have played like the proverbial baby in soiled diapers. LOL It is a long season so we can right this anyways :)

ncbravesfan

May 29th, 2012
2:24 pm

To all of the “real fans” …

If your kids come home with all D’s and F’s on their report cards, do you simply pat them on the back and say, “aw, that’s OK.” NO! You tell them that they need to get it together and improve in whatever areas they need to improve upon. But it doesn’t mean you don’t love them. You do it BECAUSE you love them.

That’s why we’re hard on the team when they keep messing up. It certainly doesn’t mean we’re not fans. I would love them to win 10 in a row and make us forget about this past week plus. But I’m going to ride them until I see some improvement.

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