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Heisenberg
May 21st, 2012
2:59 pm
Michael Bourn went 1-for-13 with four strikeouts and no walks in three games against Tampa Bay, after hitting .375 with a .430 OBP and .902 OPS in his previous 33 games…. @DOB
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OMG! Now Braves must trade all their prospects for BJ Upton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cabravesfan
May 21st, 2012
3:00 pm
My Mac is pretty sleek and streamlined
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:01 pm
Half Empty
I only run into the other fans when we’re at ST games. Heard how awful the Philly fans were when the Braves fans went there for a playoff game (spit on a 9 yr.old girl) and am prejudiced against NY fans due to the ex-husband (which isn’t fair, I know). BUT….while the Cards fans aren’t outright obnoxious at ST games, they WILL turn around and glare at you when you clap a good play made by the Braves or when they score a run.
Heisenberg
May 21st, 2012
3:01 pm
I have never been first (and do not really care), but top of page 2 is kinda cool.
Bat Masterson
May 21st, 2012
3:01 pm
At any rate, no Braves baseball for me tonight.
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:02 pm
Half Empty
And…..I should add that most of them are retirees so maybe they’re just old and grouchy.
Hillbilly
May 21st, 2012
3:03 pm
Totally not true that they are like what those two say that they are
Geebus, I have no reason to lie about it and make stuff up. I’m sure there are good ones and bad ones, but I’ve encountered more miserable baseball discussions with self-righteous Cardinal fans than with fans of all other baseball teams combined. I don’t know how you can call me a liar about it. It’s just an observation.
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:03 pm
If you are saying that yankee and Mets fans are better than cards fans, you sure won’t get much agreement in baseball circles. Throughout baseball thet are thought of as being the about best, most knowledgeable and affable fans around, and Mets and Phils are considered among the worst
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:03 pm
Bat
You don’t have DirecTV??????
mudcat47
May 21st, 2012
3:03 pm
Good article DOB, but I disagree strongly on one point. Sending a player down to the minors to get his head straight or gain confidence or get the kinks out in his performance is a good thing, as opposed to sending him out every 5th day to get his brains kicked in. I think Minor should be sent down for a few weeks until he gets things turned around. Automatically losing every 5th game is not a good idea in my opinion. Hope he gets it straight tonite. If not, consider a change.
Jimmy
May 21st, 2012
3:04 pm
Just Pateeeee – That would be my guess.
raleighbravefan – I’m on board 100% with your 2:56 post.
Like I say – The National League…where REAL men play REAL Baseball!
MFin04
May 21st, 2012
3:04 pm
“Braves must trade all their prospects for BJ Upton”
No way. Can’t stand the guy;s skinny “jeans” outfit he wears as a baseball player. He has got to be the silliest looking baseball player I’ve seen. Those pants are hideous and his jersey is way too tight as well. Just looks like a goober.
cabravesfan
May 21st, 2012
3:05 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup at CIN (7:10, SPSO/ESPN/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Prado 7 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Heyward 9 Francisco 5 Pastornicky 6 Minor 1
Bat Masterson
May 21st, 2012
3:06 pm
Just Pat_
Mediacom……… No MLB tv
I usually watch on MLB.com unless they are playing the Marlins, or like this weekend the Rays.
Heisenberg
May 21st, 2012
3:08 pm
Fortunately, Hudson gave the bullpen a rest yesterday. So Medlen is ready to take over in the 4th and get it to the back end of the bullpen. Without Minor & Delgado, how else would the bullpen get any work in? The other 3 guys are on a roll right now.
Random
May 21st, 2012
3:09 pm
MFin04: (May 21st, 2012 1:28 pm): “It is a wonder that David Ross seems to throw guys out and McCann doesn’t….guess it just has to be the guys McCann is catching vs the ones Ross is catching.
“
You hit the nail on the head without even knowing it. (The blind pig syndrome, I guess.)
McCann’s SPs:
Hanson (8/24%)
Minor (8/24%)
Beachy (7/21%)
Delgado (5/15%)
Hudson (3/9%)
Jurrjens (2/6%)
Ross’ SPs:
Delgado (3/33%)
Hudson (2/22%)
Jurrjens (2/22%)
Beachy (1/11%)
Hanson (1/11%)
Minor (0/0%)
So far in 2012, half (50%) of McCann’s starting pitchers are the three Braves’ SPs who have given up 71% of Braves’ opponents’ Stolen Bases — Hanson (10 SBs), Jurrjens (6 SBs) and Minor (6 SBs). Ross has started with one of those three on the mound only a third (33%) of the time. (Beachy has given up 3 SBs; Hudson and Delgado, none.)
Over half (55%) of Ross’ SPs (Hudson and Delgado) are the two Braves SPs who have given up zero SBs. Over four-fifths (84%) of McCann’s SPs are the other four SPs who have given up 25 of the 31 total Braves’ opponents’ SBs.
Looks to me like McCann and Ross ARE catching for different Starting Pitchers.
PS: Okay, I know, I know — Chicken? Egg? Post hoc, propter hoc? Etc.
Someone else can rank the Braves’ SPs according to how slowly/quickly they deliver to the plate and how closely they hold runners to the base, and then compare how often McCann and Ross have caught each.
All’s I know is that Hanson in particular is (even still) notoriously slow to the plate and notoriously negligent in regard to holding runners close, and represents 24% of the SPs McCann has caught, but only 11% of Ross’ SPs. McCann has caught 89% of Hanson’s starts.
Jimmy
May 21st, 2012
3:09 pm
Bat – It’s on ESPN tonight..I believe.
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:10 pm
Bat
Well……just drive here and watch with us.
Shoot……we even have a nice guest apt. to put you up in. 
Even with DirecTV, I had to listen to the Marlins & Rays announcers and am fearful I MAY be stuck with ESPN tonight, too. 
Random
May 21st, 2012
3:10 pm
Mike Berry (May 21st, 2012 1:45 pm): “…my point was that when you are pitching on a last place team and rebuilding…then you allow a Glavine to gain experience and work through his roughness if you expect to build around him for the future. I take it you would agree to that. The Braves do not have that luxury this year with a Minor for too much longer in my opinion.”
Oh, okay — got it.
Bat Masterson
May 21st, 2012
3:11 pm
Jimmy_
Thanks for the heads up.
TennesseePaul
May 21st, 2012
3:11 pm
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .333 .348 .467 0.814 .338 __118
Prado__ .459 .500 .703 1.203 .529 __221
Freeman .206 .341 .382 0.724 .327 ___95
Uggla__ .233 .400 .333 0.733 .368 ___99
McCann_ .333 .436 .485 0.921 .409 __148
Heyward .200 .263 .257 0.520 .266 ___41
Francis .188 .206 .313 0.518 .221 ___38
Pastorn .294 .306 .324 0.629 .272 ___69
Minor__ .059 .059 .059 0.118 .101 __-68
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:11 pm
I watch most of the Rays games and for the most part Upton is aggravating as all getout.He is THE toolsy guy who does not live up to his potential and often doesn’t even try to, plus an attitude too. I’ll pass
Heisenberg
May 21st, 2012
3:11 pm
MFin04, I was being sarcastic.
MFin04
May 21st, 2012
3:12 pm
Braves might want to consider using Ross as a late inning defensive replacement for McCann.
That’s all.
Brave New World
May 21st, 2012
3:13 pm
nolie: Gotta agree with you about Upton. He’s got a ton of talent, but he has yet to live up to the hype.
Bat Masterson
May 21st, 2012
3:15 pm
Ha, thanks for the offer J Pat. Since they are on ESPN I’m good to go for tonight.
ncscoots
May 21st, 2012
3:15 pm
Just looks like a goober.
That goober is liable to be patrolling CF in a Braves’ uni next year. Learn to love peas, I’d say.
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:15 pm
I heard that Upton got hit on the head and they wanted to do an MRI, but they couldn’t find a machine big enough…..
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:17 pm
maybe scoots, but I sure hope not….mighta said that b4 actually
Fish Bisch
May 21st, 2012
3:17 pm
David Ross could start for 14 other organisations.
ncscoots
May 21st, 2012
3:18 pm
I heard that Upton got hit on the head and they wanted to do an MRI, but they couldn’t find a machine big enough…..
He should fit right in with you and me, nolie.
Brave New World
May 21st, 2012
3:18 pm
Did someone actually say the Braves should “trade all of their prospects” for BJ Upton? If we covet this yet-to-be superstar, wouldn’t it be easier to sign him as a free agent in 2013?
ncscoots
May 21st, 2012
3:20 pm
nolie, he wouldn’t be my first choice for CF, either. Still, he might be attractive to the Braves’ FO, in some ways. His lack of breakout has to hurt his contract numbers, and he might look high-reward to some folks. Dunno.
MFin04
May 21st, 2012
3:21 pm
“I heard that Upton got hit on the head and they wanted to do an MRI”
Well the head injury could explain his uniform pant choice.
Tomahawkin
May 21st, 2012
3:21 pm
flange1
May 21st, 2012
2:47 pm
Half Empty,
“I think both Hillbilly and T are from Arkansas. They are used to being close to Cards fans.”
Yes, I went to college with a Lot of Bandwagon Cardinals Fans:
These Same Fans called “Season OVER” July 31st and then Jumped back on the Bandwagon. In late September
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2012
3:21 pm
Reds doing great thing for Braves Chipper, using bases w/ his name and number, “Reds celebrating the career of Chipper Jones” message on side. On Thursday, they’ll present him with one of the bases.
ncscoots
May 21st, 2012
3:22 pm
David Ross could start for 14 other organisations.
Down from 29. Trade him while he still has some value left.
Jeff R
May 21st, 2012
3:22 pm
Delgado and Minor are both talented young pitchers. As Fredi pointed out, they’re having to learn to pitch on a contending team, which makes it harder on these guys. Can’t just let them pitch through a lot of mistakes.
But I think Braves’ management is right to be patient with Minor and Delgado, so long as they’re not causing the Braves to fall from contention. No matter how talented, pitchers finally learn to pitch in the majors by pitching in the majors.
CrαZy
May 21st, 2012
3:23 pm
Not sure why so many people keep having concerns about the team??? Don’t they realize that Evan Gattis is almost here??
Tomahawkin
May 21st, 2012
3:23 pm
The Cardinals Didn’t even Sell out Their Playoff games last year…Where was the Nat’l media to rip their fans like they do us when any of our teams dont sell out in the Playoffs
Heisenberg
May 21st, 2012
3:23 pm
However since Braves are playing Reds, another favorite trade candidate that got a lot of mention (before Bourn) is Drew Stubbs. I was never exited about him either.
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2012
3:23 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Prado LF, Freeman 1B, Uggla 2B, McCann C, Heyward RF, Francisco 3B, Pastornicky SS, Minor P
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:25 pm
yeah, that’s pretty cool alright DOB
Atanta87
May 21st, 2012
3:25 pm
With rain in the forecast for tonight’s Braves game, there might be a Minor Leake in Cincinnati this evening.
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:25 pm
Thanks, DOB…..I can feel myself already getting all choked up. It’s so nice what these teams are doing for Chipper and just shows the esteem he’s held in by other teams.
CrαZy
May 21st, 2012
3:25 pm
David Ross could start for 14 other organisations.
Sure because he’s proved in the past how great he is as a everyday catcher!! Right??
Tomahawkin
May 21st, 2012
3:25 pm
My Prediction for the PrimeTime Series In The NATTI…
There will be a Braves/Reds Split. You can take this Prediction to the Bank
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:26 pm
unfortunately Evan seems to have hit a bit of a bump in the road lately, so we might have to wait a little longer to be saved….
Murph
May 21st, 2012
3:27 pm
The only issue I have with my Apple products is that now I’m completely dependent on them and it’s a real hassle to go non-Apple now that my family is 99% Apple.
All of our photos are in iPhoto. All of our music is in iTunes. All of our family calendars are in iCal. 2 iPhones, 2 iPods, multiple computers and Apple TV devices…
It’s cheaper just to stay Apple at this point than it would be to make the switch.
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:27 pm
If rain is in the forecast, hope that message is in indelible ink!
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:27 pm
Apples are wormy….
ncscoots
May 21st, 2012
3:27 pm
using bases w/ his name and number
Hope the message is on one of the field sides, and not the basepath sides. Guys might feel bad about sliding into a bag and spiking the message.
Tomahawkin
May 21st, 2012
3:28 pm
Atanta87
“With rain in the forecast for tonight’s Braves game, there might be a Minor Leake in Cincinnati this evening.”
Didn’t Chip Caray Say that Exact Same Phrase during one of the Games last weekend?
Sopheee
May 21st, 2012
3:29 pm
Reds doing great thing for Braves Chipper, using bases w/ his name and number, “Reds celebrating the career of Chipper Jones” message on side. On Thursday, they’ll present him with one of the bases.
This is so cool of the Reds. I thought a few teams may honor Chipper throughout the season but it’s been extraordinary to see every single team do it so far and some of them have been pretty unique.
brian
May 21st, 2012
3:29 pm
cool bases in Cincy!! Hope Chipper can actually run them this week
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:29 pm
Minor + no Chipper = recipe for disaster?
ncscoots
May 21st, 2012
3:29 pm
The only issue I have with my Apple products is that now I’m completely dependent on them and it’s a real hassle to go non-Apple now that my family is 99% Apple.
This is why I continue to own their stock, while purchasing none of their products.
Heisenberg
May 21st, 2012
3:29 pm
Forget Apple, the real trajedy is iCarly (not to be confused with previously mentioned T-Mobile babe) will film the final episode next month.
Tomahawkin
May 21st, 2012
3:29 pm
Heisenberg
“However since Braves are playing Reds, another favorite trade candidate that got a lot of mention (before Bourn) is Drew Stubbs. I was never exited about him either.”
No Way!…Stubbs Strikes out WAYYY Too Much…200 K’s per year, No Thanks
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:30 pm
But……an apple a day keeps the dr. away!
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:30 pm
wonder if the Marlins will do anything for Chipper?
Jeff R
May 21st, 2012
3:30 pm
Just for fun… The Braves are a division-leading 26-16 (.619). 120 games remaining.
To win 90 games, the Braves need to go 64-56 (.533)
To win 95 games, the Bravos need a 69-51 record (.575)
If the Braves keep winning at a .619 clip (actually, .617), they end up with 100 victories.
Heisenberg
May 21st, 2012
3:30 pm
Didn’t Chip Caray Say that Exact Same Phrase during one of the Games last weekend?
I think I heard it on ESPN baseball tonight.
Murph
May 21st, 2012
3:31 pm
This is why I continue to own their stock, while purchasing none of their products.
I have a handful of shares that I bought a long, long time ago. My first stock purchase, actually.
I’m hoping they’ll pay for my girl’s Harvard education someday… or a really, really nice car for daddy.
Heisenberg
May 21st, 2012
3:31 pm
Tomahawkin , more sarcasm. Just like my earlier BJ Upton reference.
CrαZy
May 21st, 2012
3:32 pm
Made the switch to Android and I’ll never buy another apple product again… Lots more freedom with Android products!!
Jimmy
May 21st, 2012
3:32 pm
Tomahawkin – I’ve taken your predicitons to the bank three times and still have nothing to show for it.
I’ll try again. Headed to the bank…or the tank.
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:33 pm
nolie
If the Marlins DON’T do something for Chipper, think they’ll be the laughingstock of MLB. And, yeah, I know they refused to honor Bobby.
ncscoots
May 21st, 2012
3:33 pm
I have a handful of shares that I bought a long, long time ago. My first stock purchase, actually.
Whatever you have, shoulda bought more, LOL.
Brian from SC
May 21st, 2012
3:33 pm
I would prefer Chipper trot the bases, as opposed to running them.
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:34 pm
Stubbs is one of the best athletes in baseball, if he ever learns to hit he could be a force, but he might never get it
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2012
3:36 pm
Triple-A Gwinnett Braves P Todd Redmond and 1B Ernesto Mejia swept International League pitcher and player of week awards
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:37 pm
I’ve been watching the Decorah eaglets on live stream and am really enjoying that. If they’re sleeping, it’s boring, but does get a bit exciting at feeding time. And now they’re doing their “wingercising” so may be trying to fly here shortly.
cricket
May 21st, 2012
3:38 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/livan-hernandez-welcomes-ballboy-bigs-shower-sunflower-seeds-162242252.html
Jeff R
May 21st, 2012
3:39 pm
Todd Redmond… The Forgotten Braves’ Prospect.
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:40 pm
Mejia and Gattis = Godzilla and Gorgo
CrαZy
May 21st, 2012
3:43 pm
Minor + no Chipper = recipe for disaster?
We’re due to win on a monday and Minor is due to pitch good… maybe it’s the perfect recipe!!
timthebrave
May 21st, 2012
3:43 pm
Braves are playing pretty good ball lately. They are a fun team to watch. Go Braves
Kelly
May 21st, 2012
3:43 pm
@Bat…I’m in FL., too. Miss those TBS days of Braves games.
MikeInFl
May 21st, 2012
3:44 pm
. Minor will never be in their class but it is a great reminder to see how even Glavine and Maddux struggled their first few years.
Probably right. Then again, I don’t know that anyone ever thought Tom Glavine would turn out to be in Tom Glavine’s class, either. 2nd round pick, didn’t really dominate in the minor leagues. I was a fan then but don’t remember if there was any great expectations about him… much different times in terms of “prospect watching.”
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:44 pm
CraZy
I like how you think.
CrαZy
May 21st, 2012
3:44 pm
The Forgotten Braves’ Prospect.
Not sure he ever really was a prospect?? Maybe when he was a Pirate?
timthebrave
May 21st, 2012
3:46 pm
I have been on the west coast training for a new job…By the time I get home the Braves games were almost over….Hollywood is a fun town to visit but not sure if I would like living there…It’s good to be back in the Atl again. To bad the Braves are on the road this week
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2012
3:47 pm
One of the Chipper bases: http://yfrog.com/oecygpmj
Bat Masterson
May 21st, 2012
3:48 pm
Yeah, Kelly, me too.
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:49 pm
not that long a drive to Cincy nowdays, go for it. I used to have to drive it B4 I-75 when it WAS that long a drive, up one side of a mountain and down the other, with a possible speed trap lurking around every blind turn
Murph
May 21st, 2012
3:49 pm
I want one of those bases!
MikeInFl
May 21st, 2012
3:49 pm
No, Redmond was never considered a prospect. But last year, and so far this year, he’s been one of the best starting pitchers in the International League. Who knows, maybe a late bloomer who might help the team (or some other team) out before all is said and done.
Bat Masterson
May 21st, 2012
3:50 pm
Ha, that is pretty cool. Kudos to the Reds
ncscoots
May 21st, 2012
3:50 pm
Then again, I don’t know that anyone ever thought Tom Glavine would turn out to be in Tom Glavine’s class, either.
I’ve worried sometimes that FO types have tried to replicate that success a little too hard: looking for crafty lefties with great changeups who don’t miss a lot of bats, and hoping that each one found turns into a HOFer.
Jimmy
May 21st, 2012
3:50 pm
Thanks for that pix DOB!
Just Pateeeee
May 21st, 2012
3:51 pm
DOB
Thanks, again…….that base is really neat and shows what a classy organization does for one of the most respected names in baseball.
TennesseePaul
May 21st, 2012
3:52 pm
Thanks for the photo link DOB. That is pretty fresh.
Jimmy
May 21st, 2012
3:53 pm
nolie – How fast could you get that horse to go? Speed trap for horses?
MFin04
May 21st, 2012
3:54 pm
“These Same Fans called “Season OVER” July 31st and then Jumped back on the Bandwagon. In late September”
Yeh, well I’m on a blog with a bunch of Braves fans who kept telling me that there was no way the Braves could lose the wild card. Hate to tell them I told them so.
ncbravesfan90
May 21st, 2012
3:56 pm
Quick turn around for Drew Sutton and will join the Rays big league club tonight…Good for him, enjoyed watching this guy down at Disney when I went down for Spring Training!
Rays Acquire Drew Sutton
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [May 21 at 2:41pm CST]
The Rays announced that they acquired Drew Sutton from the Pirates for a player to be named. The infielder’s stay in Pittsburgh was a short one; the Pirates acquired him from the Braves for cash considerations less than 24 hours ago. The Rays expect Sutton to join them tonight, at which point they’ll make a corresponding move.
Sutton has a .258/.322/.403 batting line line in 178 MLB plate appearances with the Reds, Red Sox and Indians. The 28-year-old has MLB experience at all four infield positions and both corner outfield positions. He signed a minor league deal with Atlanta this past offseason and played 38 games for Triple-A Gwinnett before yesterday’s trade.
The switch-hitting Sutton will provide Rays manager Joe Maddon with infield depth while Evan Longoria and Brandon Allen recover from their respective leg injuries. Roger Mooney of the Tampa Tribune first tweeted the news.
cricket
May 21st, 2012
3:56 pm
Redmond – Beachy2.0?
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:56 pm
wasn’t QUITE that long ago when there was no I-75. My old Duesenberg could hit 50 easy….downhill at least
nolie
May 21st, 2012
3:58 pm
must really be short of money for that deal to have gone down
Ward
May 21st, 2012
3:58 pm
Hello everyone! Just going to put out one post. Patience is the key to success……… Patience builds confidence, and contenders……..All, have a good one! Peace my friends, and Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”