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Ward
May 22nd, 2012
2:24 am
Yeah, the Braves lost, but I think Minor will be a good one.
Ward
May 22nd, 2012
2:26 am
Minor reminds me of a rookie pitcher, and I think he will work out the kinks.
Ward
May 22nd, 2012
2:31 am
All in all Braves are playing way better than expected. Delgado is showing improvement, and Minor will only get better. Would rather have some young ones, rather than some high price pitcher for only two seasons at the most. Let the pitchers play baseball.
Ward
May 22nd, 2012
2:33 am
All, have a good one! There will be better days, and Peace my friends……..”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Andrew Bailey
May 22nd, 2012
2:45 am
When will Todd Redmond get a chance? What starter or reliever is comparable to him?
veer
May 22nd, 2012
3:52 am
Ya we should keep sending Minor out there like we sent Lowe out there in Aug Sep to ruin our chances at the playoffs. We are a contending team we don’t have time to be patient. If we were up by 10 games or playing in a weak division then ya I can see the point of sending Minor out there day in and out but now our lead is down to only half a game and not always will Beachy and Huddy come and rescue us and if they have a bad outing or two then we will find ourselves in a big losing streak.
I might be one of the most hated bloggers out here but atleast I have a win win mentality. I mean there is a limit to patience. We are contending for godsake. This is Derek Lowe all over again
veer
May 22nd, 2012
3:56 am
I can’t belive some of you here are proud of Minor’s 6IP 4ER performance. He gave homerun to a pitcher. He lost to a winless pitcher. He lost to a pitcher that was statistically worse than him and the worst among all qualifying pitchers in terms of ERA
Ward
May 22nd, 2012
4:06 am
Back for one post – Good thing your not the Braves manager………Braves are in 1st, so Veer keep whining…….Keep whining, because your only smart, as your post…….Peace Out……………….”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
richbrave
May 22nd, 2012
6:26 am
FARM report page 11, 11:49 p.m.
Webster
May 22nd, 2012
6:55 am
If Minor/Delgado continue to struggle, could Todd Redmond be called up? It may be time to give him a chance.
jeffrey d
May 22nd, 2012
7:26 am
Next Monday can we write a blog about how awful the Braves are on Mondays? We need a blog curse to end this trend.
jeffrey d
May 22nd, 2012
7:29 am
Webster – I wouldn’t say Delgado is struggling too much. He’s given up walks, yeah, but that’s usually part of being a rookie.
D Posey
May 22nd, 2012
7:31 am
A few days ago, I made some observations here about Dan Uggla. I am glad to see some others agree with my assessment. However, one blogger, Lawton left a smarta## comment about me needing to see an optometrist if I do not see the value of Uggla. I truly like Uggla, but in doing some research on the stats for the past two years, Uggla has been a bust. He is rated as one of the most overpaid and over rated players in baseball. His WAR(new stat used to evaluate the worth of a player, is rated no better than an unnamed reserve player. I hope he gets it going, but I think his $13M sallary is for a whole season, not half of a season.
JasonInFL
May 22nd, 2012
7:34 am
Let’s win the next two and go for a series win on Thursday.
richbrave
May 22nd, 2012
7:37 am
jeffrey d
May 22nd, 2012
7:26 am
“……Next Monday can we write a blog about how awful the Braves are on Mondays? We need a blog curse to end this trend…….”
Start HUDSON or BEACHY next monday and that might happen.
jeffrey d
May 22nd, 2012
7:39 am
Let’s start Hudson and Beachy.
phil
May 22nd, 2012
7:51 am
The long collapse is underway….
CrαZy
May 22nd, 2012
8:04 am
I’m trying to have patience!!!
Jeff R
May 22nd, 2012
8:10 am
Fredi was right to leave Minor in after the homers. Makes perfect sense not to yank Minor, who did finish stronger. Can’t do this indefinitely, of course, but it’s still early and Minor is very capable of turning the corner.
(Yes, I know, some folk don’t want read it’s “still early.” But it facts are facts.)
Jeff R
May 22nd, 2012
8:14 am
“If Minor/Delgado continue to struggle, could Todd Redmond be called up? It may be time to give him a chance.
You know, the guy deserves a shot sometime, somewhere. Whether it’s happens in Atlanta or not is tough to say. Redmond’s been passed over regularly by management, but maybe they’d use him if Minor and/or Delgado really do crater.
Kat
May 22nd, 2012
8:24 am
11am today Gwinnett (Teheran pitching) is on MLB Network ….
Russell Bell
May 22nd, 2012
8:36 am
Minor wasn’t great last night, but not completely awful either (albeit, he’s lucky the 4 damn walks he gave up didn’t score). When you only score 1 run in support of your pitcher, more often than not, you are going to lose the game.
Gil in Mechanicsville
May 22nd, 2012
8:38 am
So, another poor outing by Chuck James Mike Minor last night. Only four home runs… only one thing for JoJo Reyes Mike Minor to do from my perspective, start pitching in bigger ballparks. Foe sure, the ones he is currently playing in have the fences way too close to home plate for him to be effective.
Funny, Livian and Kris did not have the same aura of failure surrounding them when the came in to pitch in relief.
I wonder if Jair has been giving Minor tips on the side on how to avoid suffering from whiplash as those rocket shots fly off the bats of major league hitters?
Yes, the Braves are still in first place but I would not feel too cocky about that. The Braves have shown some glaring holes when Chipper is out of the line up.
In fairness to the Braves hitters, Leake did his best imitation of Hudson last night allowing only two hits and getting mostly ground ball outs. Many of them to Joey Votto. Don’t be fooled by the high ERA. Leake looked very effective last night and has matured at a much faster rate than Kyle Davies Mike Minor.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
8:46 am
Next Monday can we write a blog about how awful the Braves are on Mondays? We need a blog curse to end this trend. — jeffrey d
That’s actually a good idea. Remind me on Sunday and I will. I want to test the true power of the blog curse/reverse-curse.
Gil in Mechanicsville
May 22nd, 2012
8:48 am
Yes richbrave, for sure, Monday is not a good time to go see the Braves play is it? At least the Braves are playing well enough to weather the storm so to speak when Minor toes the rubber but he is doing his best to play down to the standards set by Kershin two years ago.
To be fair, I thought the home plate umpire was squeezing the hell out of Minor last night but Mike wasn’t helping his case either being all over the place.
Jeff R
May 22nd, 2012
9:07 am
Yes, the Braves are still in first place but I would not feel too cocky about that. The Braves have shown some glaring holes when Chipper is out of the line up.
Chipper or no Chipper, it never pays to be cocky. I’m as happy as the next guy that the Braves are playing well, but there’s a lot of ball left, and I just don’t see the Phils dwelling in the cellar indefinitely. And Miami is looking better.
Random
May 22nd, 2012
9:11 am
veer (May 22nd, 2012 3:56 am): “I can’t belive some of you here are proud of Minor’s 6IP 4ER performance.”
Yes, I for one AM proud of Minor’s performance last night, especially when he was put back out there in the 5th inning after having given up the three two-out HRs (after getting a 1-2 count on the pitcher) in the 4th.
Following the last HR in the 4th, Minor retired the next seven batters he faced (2 by K), including two of the ones who had back-to-back jacked him (Leake and Cozart).
Now, Brava may consider that to be “coddling” — the Braves throwing Minor back into the fire, but she is bitter, twisted and vitriolic.
“He gave homerun to a pitcher.”
NL pitchers hit 27 HRs in 2011 — it’s not exactly unheard of. Or career-ending.
“He lost to a winless pitcher. He lost to a pitcher that was statistically worse than him and the worst among all qualifying pitchers in terms of ERA”
Minor was 0 for 2 against Leake, with 1 K.
The rest of the Braves (ie, the “hitters”) were 2 for 25 against Leake, with 5 Ks and 1 BB. Pretty damned stupid of you to single out Minor for HIS batting performance, don’t you think?
Couch Tater
May 22nd, 2012
9:13 am
Good morning, Dave!
Thanks…uh.. for takin’ my call…uh…can you hear me? Huh? Oh, O.K… lemmee turn my..uh.. radio down. Hold on…Can you hear me? Yeah, I’s wunderin’…uh..wha’chall think Wren..huh? Can you hold me over from the break? Ya cain’t? Well, durn. I’ve been listening to this station ever since The Song Remains The Same wuz #1 and Niekro had a fastball. You’d think I’d get a little more respect…
Harry Chapin – W*O*L*D **
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1TUgWGuKM8&feature=related
**Now, SportsTalk!
Brian from SC
May 22nd, 2012
9:23 am
I don’t know if proud is the right word, but I do think Minor showed progress. He got ambushed with no runners on base, but didn’t let the game get away from him like he has in other starts recently. It could have been 10-1 instead of 4-1.
He showed a lot more fight than the Braves hitters did last night, that’s for sure. They weren’t winning with Beachy on the mound with that offensive performance.
DAP
May 22nd, 2012
9:23 am
on the bright side, they were all solo homers.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 22nd, 2012
9:29 am
Jeff R it never pays to be cocky.
For me, it hardly ever even pays to be excited…Bronson Arroyo will prolly throw a perfect game tomorrow…
Mixxo
May 22nd, 2012
9:30 am
Another pi**-poor performance on a Monday. Imagine that. 0 – 8
How in the world are we in first-place?????
Oh……we haven’t played as many games in our division as the rest of the teams…..that’s why.
Random
May 22nd, 2012
9:32 am
veer (May 22nd, 2012 3:56 am): “He lost to a winless pitcher. He lost to a pitcher that was statistically worse than him and the worst among all qualifying pitchers in terms of ERA”
No, not at all.
Minor lost to the NL’s 10th ranked team in 2012 OPS.
On the other hand, the NL’s 3RD ranked team in OPS (guess who) DID lose to “a winless pitcher . . . that was statistically . . . the worst among all qualifying pitchers in terms of ERA.”
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 22nd, 2012
9:33 am
Last night the problem wasn’t as much Minor as it was the lack of offense. You can hardly ever win when you get 2 hits and score 1 run
Brian from SC
May 22nd, 2012
9:35 am
I agree, Only. Braves offense never gave Minor a chance anyway.
Lew
May 22nd, 2012
9:35 am
Uggla no more valuable than an unnamed reserve player? Yet more proof as to the total uslessness of WAR
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
9:36 am
No point in whining about the whiners. Some observations are called for, however.
Leake had been pretty bad, until his last start which showed improvement. ESPN announcers noted several times how much improved he was last night with pitch placement, showing slow motion replays of excellent pitches, and commenting on where he had been puting the ball in his earlier bad outins. We only got 1 run…bad….but Leake should be given a lot of the credit for that.
Proud of Minor for the way he came back out after the bad inning and shut them down for 2 innings afterward. Yes he was bad in the 4th, especially. Error, followed by mistake pitch to Leake obviously rattled him. basically 1 bad inning. He has got to learn how to deal with adversity. I thought he did in the 5th & 6th, but damage was done. Again, ESPN announcers said all young pitchers have to learn from experience how to get out of trouble, and noted that when pitchers are rushed to majors, that’s a lesson they don’t have a chance to learn (one reason Teheran is still down). Not time to give up on Minor long term, but at some point, you have to send him back down for “seasoning” if things don’t improve.
I believe if a move is made, they will make Levan the 5th starter, perhaps bringing up someon for the bullpen. Hopefully at some point Moylan becomes available and effective. Not looking real good for JJ, and I think they want Teheran to perfect secondary pitches some more.
Not much whining lately about Wren needlessly hanging on to too much pitching.
Brian from SC
May 22nd, 2012
9:38 am
I don’t know where D Posey is getting his numbers, but Uggla’s WAR is 1.2 on Fangraphs and 1.3 on baseball-reference. Both are good numbers, 3rd among Braves hitters behind Bourn and Prado.
Lew
May 22nd, 2012
9:40 am
The worst part of last night’s game was having top listen to the Cincinnati TV Dudes.
Fish Bisch
May 22nd, 2012
9:46 am
Minor is a tool. He looks like he doesn’t care getting lit up out there and he was hugging all over Leake before the game. His mind is not in the game and it looks like he could care less.
Jeff R
May 22nd, 2012
9:48 am
I believe if a move is made, they will make Levan the 5th starter, perhaps bringing up someon for the bullpen.
Certainly, the easiest, cheapest move the Braves could make and if it doesn’t work, Wren could go to whatever Plan B would be.
But Minor’s not done yet. We’ll see.
Random
May 22nd, 2012
9:48 am
veer (May 22nd, 2012 3:56 am): “I can’t belive some of you here are proud of Minor’s 6IP 4ER performance. He gave homerun to a pitcher.”
Of all 44 NL pitchers with at least 15 ABs, Leake’s OPS of .867 is second only to Strasburg’s 1.162.
PS: Okay, I know, I know — “And what was Mr Leake’s OPS BEFORE being introduced to Mr Minor’s wayward change-up?”
Well played, sir, well played.
(HOWEVER, only 3 pitchers (with 6) have more hits than Leake’s 5.)
Fish Bisch
May 22nd, 2012
9:51 am
Minor looks like he’s pitching injured.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
9:53 am
I think we can all agree, the Braves’ 0-7 record on Mondays isn’t as amazing as Reds fan Caleb Lloyd catching both of the 1st two homers in Cincy’s 4th inning. That is mind-boggling.
Jeff R
May 22nd, 2012
9:58 am
I think we can all agree, the Braves’ 0-7 record on Mondays isn’t as amazing as Reds fan Caleb Lloyd catching both of the 1st two homers in Cincy’s 4th inning. That is mind-boggling.
Perhaps more mind-boggling is that both homers were hit to virtually the same spot.
TennesseePaul
May 22nd, 2012
9:58 am
I watched the game last night and, while the four home runs were displeasing, the fact that Minor didn’t get blasted with the bases loaded, or with runners on, and continued to 6 innings is positive. Hopefully he builds off of this. He went deeper in the game and proved himself capable of getting out of a jam. Now he just needs to not plant a pitch in the hot zone.
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
9:59 am
DOB – Caleb Lloyd probably needs to buy a lottery ticket today.
Random
May 22nd, 2012
10:01 am
Fish Bisch (May 22nd, 2012 9:46 am): “Minor is a tool. [And you are a fool.] He looks like he doesn’t care getting lit up out there and he was hugging all over Leake before the game. His mind is not in the game and it looks like he could care less.”
Looks like he doesn’t care or could not care less?
Your and idiot.
How would you even know that his mind is not in the game?
Dumb-axe.
ncscoots
May 22nd, 2012
10:02 am
Kee-rist, I’m at the point where I wish the Braves actually would put Medlen in the rotation, just to silence the mob. Then, when he turns out to not be the Cy Young candidate that some here seem to think, we can put that notion to bed and get on with winning ballgames. Have mercy.
Bat Masterson
May 22nd, 2012
10:02 am
A few days ago, I made some observations here about Dan Uggla. I am glad to see some others agree with my assessment. However, one blogger, Lawton left a smarta## comment about me needing to see an optometrist if I do not see the value of Uggla _ D Posey
That was me, not Lawton, and in a different context. Perhaps after you get those new glasses a reading comprehension course is In order.
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
10:03 am
TNPaul – Good point Re Minor. He “righted the ship” when he easily could have folded. In the long run, this may be one of those “seminal moments”, which is a funny term itself.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
10:04 am
Minor looks like he’s pitching injured. — Fish Bisch
I dare say that since this blog became so active years ago, there has not been a single Braves pitcher who has struggled mightily for more than two weeks without multiple people in this forum suggesting — or saying adamantly — that he is injured. Not one pitcher.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
10:06 am
Minor is a tool. He looks like he doesn’t care getting lit up out there and he was hugging all over Leake before the game. His mind is not in the game and it looks like he could care less. — Fish Bisch
Wait. I thought he was hurt, Fish Bisch? Now it’s his mind that’s not in the game? Is it his mind not in the game or an injury? I’m confused now.
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
10:06 am
Random @10:01 – Ain’t it the truth. It never ceases to amaze me how people assume they know what someone is thinking, or their attitude, or their “heart” based on how they appear. It is about as risky as judging someone for how they grieve.
Ease
May 22nd, 2012
10:08 am
His mind is injured.
Murph
May 22nd, 2012
10:08 am
I’m sure this will be refuted by someone who is going to spend the time to actually look it up, but whatev… you can’t give up 4 HR and expect to win the game. Doesn’t matter if it’s to the pitcher or the cleanup hitter, 4 HR is 4 HR. He’s very fortunate that every single one was a solo shot.
That being said, giving up only 4 runs is an improvement for Minor… the team wasn’t out of the game. What I’m more upset about is the 2 freakin’ hits against a guy who has been one of the NL’s worst pitchers in 2012. But I can’t even be all that upset about that since the team has been an offensive powerhouse all season long and still sits in first place.
Momma said there’d be days like this, there’d be days like this my momma said…
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
10:08 am
DOB @10:06 –
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
10:11 am
Murph – “You can’t give up 4 home runs and expect to win” – mostly true, although, as you said, we were still in the game.
Also true that you can’t expect to win many games if you only score 1 run.
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 22nd, 2012
10:13 am
Fish Bisch is a tool.She seems like she doesn’t care that she sounds stupid and she was hugging all over the Reds before the game. Her mind is not in the Braves’ best interest and it looks like he could care less about them. — TOBF
Well, seriously, I don’t think any pitcher really goes out there trying to lose, and he looked better. Besides, even if Minor puts in a good start, 7 innings, 2ER, the Braves still don’t win. I don’t blame Minor for the loss, but rather Leake shutting down the Braves bats.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 22nd, 2012
10:17 am
Maybe his mind’s not in the game because he’s thinking about his injury…
Lew
May 22nd, 2012
10:18 am
One of the only redeeming features of the Reds’ broadcast last night was the interview with the young man who caught back to back HR balls.
ncscoots
May 22nd, 2012
10:19 am
His mind is injured.
Who knows? I’m sure he’s trying to figure it out, though, and right damn quick.
Frankly, it just a feeble game all the way ’round, last night. Stuff happens. Forget about it and suit up, got another game to play.
Sopheee
May 22nd, 2012
10:19 am
Fish is injured? Who’s going to do the ownage posts?!
MikeInFL
May 22nd, 2012
10:20 am
Maybe he injured himself because he’s insane.
Lew
May 22nd, 2012
10:21 am
Nah – The insane usually injure someone else.
Sopheee
May 22nd, 2012
10:23 am
At least it’s Beachy day. That makes me happy.
CrαZy
May 22nd, 2012
10:23 am
Minor is a tool. He looks like he doesn’t care —–Fish Bisch
Clearly Minor doesn’t care…. Everyone can tell he doesn’t want to play good… No chance that he wants’ to stick in the majors for a long time. I’m sure he was more happy riding buses in the minors.
Tool : One who lacks the mental capacity to know he is being used. A fool. A cretin. Characterized by low intelligence and/or self-steem.
Seems to me you better fit the definition of a Tool!!
Waffle House or Bust
May 22nd, 2012
10:25 am
I say keep throwing the young guns out there. Look at 1990 and how it helped Glavine & Smoltz in 1991 (and their career).
FYI – Whoever came up with the annoying AJC bar at bottom of the page should be fired. Horrible idea!
Bat Masterson
May 22nd, 2012
10:28 am
Okay, I’m getting a new hard drive, upgrading the operating system to snow leopard, and increasing the ram on a five year old machine. $387.50
I was out some money for the back up and diagnostic cost. So I guess that’s better than buying a new machine.
Murph
May 22nd, 2012
10:29 am
As much as I’d like to sit around and complain about Minor, I’m not going to… not much to be said about that guy that hasn’t already been said. He’ll either figure it out and right the ship or he won’t and he’ll likely be replaced by Teheran at some point this season. I’ll still take 4 really good pitchers plus 1 Minor any day of the week.
Minor doesn’t know how fortunate he is to have Beachy follow him in the rotation. Instead of reporters and fans lamenting Minor’s poor performance for days and days they have a much better story to write about the next evening as Beachy dominates yet again.
Lew
May 22nd, 2012
10:30 am
The Meebo Bar – the true reason for Minor’s struggles.
Hillbilly
May 22nd, 2012
10:30 am
That’s actually a good idea. Remind me on Sunday and I will. I want to test the true power of the blog curse/reverse-curse.
DOB, Whatever you do, just don’t mention the undefeated Friday record.
Murph
May 22nd, 2012
10:31 am
Almost forgot… got my tickets to go watch the Manny Ramirez show tomorrow night here in Round Rock, TX. Can’t decide if I’m going to boo him or just sit back and laugh at him… maybe a little of both.
TennesseePaul
May 22nd, 2012
10:32 am
Then, when he turns out to not be the Cy Young candidate that some here seem to think, we can put that notion to bed and get on with winning ballgames. Have mercy.
Your statements seem to imply that the team would need Medlen to be Cy worthy in order to win ballgames. Or, even that a team can only when ballgames when a pitcher is Cy worthy. He may not win the Cy, but he could very well win many games. And with that, the notion of necessary Cy winnings may be laid to rest as the team wins ballgames. That’s the difference.
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
10:33 am
Waffle – I agree that the pitchers need to learn how to pitch under adversity…but there is a difference in learning “on the job” with a last place team vs a first place team. There is not an easy answer here.
FYI – The bar at the bottom is annoying, but you can easily hide it.
JoeFan
May 22nd, 2012
10:34 am
Ever game is important, see 2011 results. The Braves can’t keep sending a pitcher out there who consistently doesn’t give the team a reasonable chance to win, see Lowe of 2011. If there is a better pitcher in their system or available through trade than Minor, then the Braves owe it to themselves and their fans to get him into the rotation. Otherwise, run Minor out there every 5th day and hope he matures quickly.
Murph
May 22nd, 2012
10:34 am
new hard drive, upgrading the operating system to snow leopard, and increasing the ram on a five year old machine. $387.50
Ouch! Man, as much as I’m a Mac guy and would never do the Nelson “HA HA” from the Simpson’s, you could get an entirely new Windows laptop for that price.
Bat Masterson
May 22nd, 2012
10:35 am
Instead of reporters and fans lamenting Minor’s poor performance for days and days they have a much better story to write about the next evening as Beachy dominates yet again.
I hope the baseball gods are not in a let’s give these guys a lesson in humility mood.
TennesseePaul
May 22nd, 2012
10:35 am
The Meebo Bar – the true reason for Minor’s struggles
Blocking that bar with the adblock add-on was the slickest, most rewarding browser enhancement ever. I’ve even gotten it to block the ad-which-magically-covers-your-screen-while-you-attempt-to-read-an-article.
Tomahawkin
May 22nd, 2012
10:35 am
Murph
“As much as I’d like to sit around and complain about Minor, I’m not going to… not much to be said about that guy that hasn’t already been said. ”
Co-Sign on that…
I’d rather have the biggest issue on the team be a 2nd year starter as opposed to a year ago when the whole offense couldn’t RISP and people were callinf for a coaches to get Ol Yellered…And a year ago Ugg Couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat after 40 games. I’d gladly take the issues of 3 pitchers on a team as opposed to the whole team issues a year ago that was costing us games
I will take our performance this year after 40 some odd games as opposed to last year in a heartbeat
Ease
May 22nd, 2012
10:37 am
I kilt the Meebo bar…
Arkansas Transplant
May 22nd, 2012
10:37 am
I think it’s probably time to seriously look at Oswalt.
Tomahawkin
May 22nd, 2012
10:38 am
Not Making excuses here, but Minor would’ve lost even if he threw 6 shutout innings when the offense can only get 2 hits at The Great American Smallpark…
With that said its Do or Die for Minor in his next start
varoadrunner
May 22nd, 2012
10:38 am
Minor could be a very good pitcher but he has mechanical problem as well as potential “head” issues.
I still ask, why not move Medlin into a starter’s role? Bring Bring up the rookie and give him a chance. At times last night, Minor looked as if he was throwing batting practice. Only five hits, but he was hit very hard from the very beginning. Keep him, do not trade him…but give him a break from the “bigs”.
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
10:38 am
TNPaul – My personal unworthy opinion is that Medlen is more valuable in his current role, especially with Venters struggling, than he would be as a 5th starter. That’s not even to mention that he would have to be stretched out to become a starter.
Tomahawkin
May 22nd, 2012
10:39 am
Why are so Many on here Lusting for The Wizard (Oswalt) when we have younger/cheaper options both in the pen (Meds) and down in the farm???
SMH
Oswalt is Overpriced Damaged Goods
Bat Masterson
May 22nd, 2012
10:40 am
Yeah, I guess I could, but I have some suck cost involved, too.
If I’m gonna lament recent decisions, I think I’ll go with, I should have picked up a pretty good pc laptop instead of the iPad.
Lew
May 22nd, 2012
10:40 am
Ease – The Blog Davy Crockett – He killed the Meedbo B’ar
Jeff R
May 22nd, 2012
10:42 am
How many commenters who think that Minor and Delgado have the potential to be capable major league starting pitchers have ever said these guys are future Cy Young winners or Hall of Famers?
It’s absurd that some folk keep defaulting to that point (a straw man, if there ever was one).
I certainly think that most of the regular commenters on this blog have made no such claims.
Geez, there is a middle ground, after all.
ncbravesfan90
May 22nd, 2012
10:44 am
Medlin is staying in the pen because he is a key setup guy that we despeartely need out there. And I’m not sure what options we have in the minors that you speak of. Our starting pitching depth that was was very deep has all of a sudden become non-existent.
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
10:46 am
Arkansas – You are assuming 2 things…1) Oswalt would be healthy AND effective, and 2) the Braves have the money to spend on him vs other needs. Are the 4th & 5th starters really that big of a problem, especially when we have won most of the games they have started?
I don’t trust either assumption to necessarily be true.
Bat Masterson
May 22nd, 2012
10:47 am
Ha, “suck cost” pretty much the same as sunk cost, I suppose.
ncbravesfan90
May 22nd, 2012
10:49 am
“Are the 4th & 5th starters really that big of a problem, especially when we have won most of the games they have started?”
The 4th starter, not that much of a problem and has actually pitched pretty well. The 5th starter, definitely a problem and needs to be addressed.
CrαZy
May 22nd, 2012
10:49 am
I think it’s probably time to seriously look at Oswalt.
If this was a video game or a fantasy baseball team I’d agree!!
Roman Gal
May 22nd, 2012
10:50 am
Geez, there is a middle ground, after all.
Say whaa?
cricket
May 22nd, 2012
10:50 am
since we are going to lose every monday, why not rest the regulars on mondays instead of sundays and play with a team of full on scrubs?
Hillbilly
May 22nd, 2012
10:51 am
Ease – The Blog Davy Crockett – He killed the Meedbo B’ar
Or we could go with The Blog Hatchet Jack:
“I, Ease, being of sound mind and broke legs hereby leave this mouse to whoever may find it. Lord hope it be a Braves Fan. Anyway, it is a good mouse and kilt the Meebo Bar that kilt me.”
Naaaah, we can’t do that. The “sound mind” thing doesn’t work. Davy Crockett it is.
CrαZy
May 22nd, 2012
10:51 am
I still ask, why not move Medlin into a starter’s role?
This has only been answered a billion times since the last Minor start!! He is coming off TJ surgery and they are going to limit his innings this season. PLUS he’s one of our best relief pitchers right now.
raleighbravefan
May 22nd, 2012
10:52 am
Lew – When he was only 3?
Arkansas Transplant
May 22nd, 2012
10:52 am
raleighbravefan, I stated time to “look” at Oswalt. I don’t know what he has left or what condition he’s in health wise but I do know that we are serious contenders this year and I think if we can bring in someone that’s been as solid as Oswalt has been his whole career, then I think we should at least look at the possibility. Well, as far as 4th and 5th starters being problems.. I’d say, yes. I’d look to shore up at least one of those spots, it does nothing to continue to run them out there knowing how they are taxing our bullpen. That can be a very large problem come September. And money… well, that’s negotiable.