Braves quotes after Monday’s loss to Reds
**FREDI GONZALEZ
On leaving Minor in after giving up two and then three consecutive homers
“It’s a teaching moment, a good moment for him to go back out there. He only gave up four solo home runs. I thought the kid pitched OK. It was a good chance for him to go back out there and hang around. We keep talking to our pitchers about just hang around, give yourself a chance to win a ballgame.
“I thought he did better in that fifth and sixth inning. His breaking ball started to have more depth to it. Hopefully he carries this on to his next start and keeps getting better and learns from it.”
“It could have been the ballpark. [But] we didn’t hit. It was a weird game. I think all the runs were on solo home runs. The old adage is that solo home runs don’t beat you. But we didn’t hit. We didn’t give him an opportunity. But I saw something in Mike today. I saw some growth in him.”
On the homers, which have plagued him for a while now; can you even judge those in this park?
“Well, I think one may have been a legit home run in a bigger ballpark. Maybe the other ones are off the wall. But it’s there for both teams. We gave up three more than they did.”
You beat Shields and Price in Tampa, come here and do nothing against guy with an 8 ERA at this ballpark
“This game is crazy. It really is crazy. The only thing, you go out tomorrow and we’ve got Beach going for us, and hopefully we get our bats going again.”
**MIKE MINOR
Did the ballpark have anything to do with some of the homers?
“I don’t think it was the ballpark. The pitches were up. All of them were up. It’s just what they did, home runs. If I’d get the ball down those balls aren’t hit as well. But they are good hitters, and they did what they’re supposed to do.”
Take any positive from coming back and pitching well in 2 innings after 3-homer 4th?
“I don’t think I allowed another baserunner after that, so I can take that, and I can also take that they were all solo shots. It was four runs instead of six or more. Just got to take it one day at a time and try to get better.”
The home runs have really hurt you lately
“Yeah, I’m a four-seam pitcher. Even my outs are pop-ups, a lot of them. That’s just what happens if good hitters come through a lineup like that and they know I’m going to give them fastballs. And they were sitting on my best pitch, which is the changeup, which tonight wasn’t very good. That’s what three out of the four home runs were [on].”
On getting out of bases-loaded jam with Votto flyball
“I didn’t really feel pressure with the bases loaded and Votto up because I feel like I’ve been in that situation four or five starts in a row. I’m kind of, I wouldn’t say getting used to it, but it’s easier to handle, something I’ve been working on throughout the week. Just buckling down and if he does get a hit there hopefully it’s only one run and I take that as a positive.”
More on problem with the changeup
“Early in the game it was a flatter pitch that didn’t have a whole lot of depth, just on one plane and only had side-to-side movement. So it’s a lot easier for a hitter to keep their bat in the zone and hit it solid.”
And that’s a pitch you throw a lot when ahead of counts, situations where most of the homers were hit tonight
“In that situation it should have been a lot further out of the zone, or on the corner black. A lot of those, all of them were up pretty much. Except the first one to Stubbs, who kind of reached for it and got it.”
On being within one strike of getting out of inning, 1-2 count to Leake with 2 outs
“Yeah, all that happened with two outs. I knew Leake was a good hitter. I’ve known him since college, and I knew he hit in college, too. So it wasn’t like I was taking him lightly. Obviously I was throwing him off-speed pitches, and usually you throw a pitcher a lot of fastballs. I was throwing him inside fastballs, changeups … he knew that was my best pitch, too. His first AB, the first pitch was a changeup and he came around on it but still got on base and hit it well. It just shows you how good a hitter he is.”
**DAN UGGLA
Offensive struggles it more about Mike Leake tonight, or Braves hitters?
“It was both. He made good pitches. We only got two hits, so he was pretty much on. Those guys right there, when they have good stuff and they’re up here but they’ve struggled, those guys are dangerous, because his back’s up against the wall, so he’s bound to go out and do what he can do eventually.”
Beat Tampa Bay’s aces, couldn’t do anything vs. Leake
“That’s why it is a crazy game. We didn’t have it tonight.”
Even after the three homers, still a relatively close game
“It was only 4-1. We had time to come back. But he beared down and made pitches when he needed to.”
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Stuart
May 21st, 2012
10:44 pm
Minors next start should be for the Missssippi Braves in the Southern League.
North Ga Braves Fan
May 21st, 2012
10:44 pm
Please Fredi don’t run Minor out there again! I’d rather see Livan than Minor. He needs to join JJ!
Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow
May 21st, 2012
10:47 pm
Next time, keep your mouth shut until you’ve accomplished something, Mikey.
Also, Fredi’s a boob.
birddawg92
May 21st, 2012
10:47 pm
“Only” 4 HRs? You have got to be kidding. “It’s a crazy game?” The other pitcher’s ERA was NINE. Good teams don’t lose games like this. And good managers don’t stay with a pitcher who’s given up a season’s worth of homers and then gets 3 in a row hit against him in one inning. Pathetic. Gonzalez is as inept as manager as Willie Martinez was as DC at UGA. In over his head. This team will not play to it’s potential by season’s end.
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Huh
May 21st, 2012
10:49 pm
He only gave up four solo home runs… nbd.
But I saw something in Mike today… I don’t think he saw what I saw.
Josh
May 21st, 2012
10:49 pm
“It might have been the ballpark”
2 of the balls went out to left center, where there’s only 1 foot difference between Great American and Turner Field.
It wasn’t the park, it was us.
Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow
May 21st, 2012
10:49 pm
HA… only four homers. Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?!
North Ga Braves Fan
May 21st, 2012
10:50 pm
Minor looked like a deer in the headlights!
Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow
May 21st, 2012
10:52 pm
“He only gave up four solo home runs… nbd.
But I saw something in Mike today… I don’t think he saw what I saw”
Pfft what were you watching? Only reason it wasn’t a total annihilation is because Votto barely missed that pitch with the bases loaded.
Huh
May 21st, 2012
10:55 pm
To: Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow
I was being sarcastic…
Michael G.
May 21st, 2012
10:57 pm
Freddie G. – “He only gave up four solo home runs. I thought the kid pitched OK.”
You’re kidding, right? You can not actually believe what you are saying, can you Freddie? Minor leads the Major Leagues in HR’s allowed.
Freddie, you and Dave O. seem to live in this dream world where you think this kid will be the next Tom Glavine based on their first 31 starts. It ain’t happening, and even a blind man could see this. Take off your rose-colored glasses and move Minor out of the rotation.
birddawg92
May 21st, 2012
10:57 pm
Derek Lowe last year all over again. It’s Groundhog Day.
BravesfaninWis
May 21st, 2012
10:58 pm
Somebody already beat me to it, “Only 4 homeruns” that has to be the most idiotic statement a manager has ever said. When any pitcher gives up 4 homeruns in a single game, let alone to the opposing pitcher with 2 outs, that is downright pathetic. Now Minor has a losing record, and around a 7 era. How is that going for you now Mikey? Get lost man.
birddawg92
May 21st, 2012
11:00 pm
“Just gonna have to keep running him out there.”-Fredi G
double
May 21st, 2012
11:02 pm
Errors & Excuses & Patience and patience and patience.Buy,trade for a good pitcher or kiss this season good by.
go-BRAVOS
May 21st, 2012
11:05 pm
Minor gave up just 5 hits, which is not bad until you see that 4 were HR’s. I think he deserves to stay up and get OJT. If these hitters could do anything against worthless pitchers it would have been a different ballgame. I do not understand why terrible pitchers shut down Braves hitters for what seems like the past 5 years or so.
Go Braves!
Zac in Tempe
May 21st, 2012
11:06 pm
Sticking with him after the homers panned out. I would have pulled him, but I guess Fredi made the right call. As for “the kid pitched OK”, I think yall would rather he started pointed fingers and poisoning the clubhouse. Speak well of all your players until you replace them.
J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:08 pm
How about we have a pole as to wether Minor should be here or sent down……I know an overwhelming majority would send him down……………..
WE NEED OSWALT!!!!!!!!!!!!
J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:11 pm
Zac the “Right call” for Fredi would have been to have sent him down to AAA . How is giving up 3 back to back to back HRs a good thing. Ony Fredi can find a positive out of a putcher being slugged out of the stadium……We need a more proactive Manager thats gonna pull the plug on a pitcher with a 6.96 ERA and giving up 12 HRs in 9 starts.
birddawg92
May 21st, 2012
11:13 pm
The game is played to win. Minor absolutely must be pulled after the 3rd of the back-to-back-to-back (and truly, given his recent history, after the 2nd). You do it as much for the team’s morale as for whatever’s left of his psyche—at that stage (the 3rd or 4th inning or so), if you stop ‘em right there you have a chance to win. Again, D-Lowe all over again. They should put Medlen or Hernandez in there and send Minor to Gwinnett.
Zac in Tempe
May 21st, 2012
11:15 pm
I just meant I would have pulled him after the fourth, and, in hindsight, that would have cost us two clean innings. I really would like a spot start from Livan to let Minor work stuff out. I wouldn’t mind action either, I just thought criticizing him for not speaking ill of his players was silly.
J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:17 pm
Yes its D Lowe all over again just rushing him out there every 5th game. Thats why we lost that wildcard lead because of Fruti.
J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:18 pm
I have an idea senf Minor to AAA and let him figure it out. And then we can sign OSwalt
J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:19 pm
send
Marshall
May 21st, 2012
11:19 pm
If you send down Minor now, you mess with the kid’s head. Let him keep developing up here…he’ll come around. At least, I’d be telling him he’ll come around, with my fingers crossed and hoping not to get struck by lightning for maybe lying.
birddawg92
May 21st, 2012
11:21 pm
Just because you didn’t pull him doesn’t mean you would not have still gotten 2 more scoreless innings. He WALKED the next guy after the 3 HRs in a row and was on the verge of getting us completely blown out of the park. Odds were at that stage, again actually after the 2nd homer, that he was going to get shelled. Fredi just got lucky. His luck won’t hold up the next 3-4 months, just like it ran out last year. Just mind-boggling the bass-ackwardness sometimes.
Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow
May 21st, 2012
11:22 pm
“If you send down Minor now, you mess with the kid’s head.”
And if you keep him up here, he won’t get fixed and you give away wins that you WILL need down the road since you already can’t handle the teams in your own division head to head.
Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow
May 21st, 2012
11:24 pm
If Minor fails in the minors, it only affects one person.
If Minor fails in the majors, the Braves could wind up choking away the playoffs again and heads will roll.
J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:32 pm
Minor is a GROWN MAN. He knows if he doesnt perform he wont be up here…..Enough of this politically correct BS. Hes a pro Athlete. In fact because hes a 1st round pick he has already made more money than Hanson, Heyward, Venters, Kimbrel, Freeman, Pastornicky, and Delgado……So I dont want to hear about pitcher Psyches. Besides if he hadnt made that trade demand to where he wanted to be traded or starting I might be more sympathetic…….But if you make that kind of statement you better perform
Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow
May 21st, 2012
11:35 pm
Too many baby-sitters and hat-tippers on this blog. Need more @sskickers.
J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:41 pm
HaHa Peter Griffen puttin Joan Cusak in a mail box
Biff Pocoroba
May 21st, 2012
11:44 pm
ONLY four solo home runs? I understand Fredi is backing up his player, but nobody questioned him on the logic of that statement? Was there not a follow-up question like, “Errr… Aren’t you alarmed at the number of HR’s Minor has given up this year? Errr…. Aren’t you alarmed that one of those solo HR’s was by a starting pitcher… his first CAREER HR?
DOB, I am a big fan, but did you really let that slide?
J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:50 pm
Well DOB lets Fredi get away with “Certain things” because they are friends. I mean I dont remember on the AJC staff for that matter calling out Fredi for that September Collapse and letting Lowe go out there every 5th day just to lose. Now its the same thing with Minor and if Schulholtz or Wren hadent went on ahead and sent him down to AAA Jurrjens would still be getting destroyed
Don Nottebart
May 21st, 2012
11:58 pm
JJ gives up 7 more runs tonight, 6 ER in a loss. He is getting hit worse in the minors than he was up in Atl if that is possible.
Robbie
May 21st, 2012
11:58 pm
Peter Griffin for manager in 2013!
J-MAN
May 22nd, 2012
12:03 am
I mean come on he ONLY allowed 4 solo HRs. Who cares that he leads the Majors in HRs allowed or that he has a .286 avg against or that he has that pesky 6.96 ERA……The Atlanta media is not like the New York, Boston, Chicago, or Philadelphia medias. There is only 1 paper in town so there no competition for Atlanta Sports fans. So instead of asking the tough questions, its always “Buddy-Buddy”……Now Granted DOB is my favorite writer but I think asking more engaging questions when warranted is necessary. I think Liberty Media and the TV deal we are signed to have not been criticized and held accountable either.
David
May 22nd, 2012
12:04 am
Oh BTW Bobby Cox (top 5 managers of all time) backed his players EVERY SINGLE GAME NO MATTER WHAT! Good managers dont let their players out to dry even when they sucked air. I’d rather have a positive manager than a guy like Bobby V who publicly rips his players
onlyonce
May 22nd, 2012
12:06 am
Keep sending him out there Fruti, he is learning a little bit each time out there. By the end of Sept he will have learned enouth to be able to pitch 7 innings and only give up only 3 solo home runs, meanwhile we just mised the playoff’s by 1 game, maybe next year he will have learned enough to pitch 7 innings and only give up 2 home runs. While he is learning I hope you learn something too.
J-MAN
May 22nd, 2012
12:08 am
Im not calling for Bobby V. But if you have had 9 starts and have an ERA of 6.96 and giving up 12 runs. Then its time to send him down to AAA.
David
May 22nd, 2012
12:08 am
I honestly cannot stand the negative comments I read on this every single time we play poorly. Jesus christ every team loses and players go through struggles. Read the blog from today and look up Maddux/Glavine early stats they are awful. Not comparing them to Minor but the kid is young he’s leaving some pitches up and its getting ugly. It’s a tough decision but we look at the NOW too often without taking future into consideration. If he continues to cough it up then ultimately he should go down but lets honestly give him a few more appearances and see if he can adjust.
Just honestly take some chill pills and relax it’s just one damn game. BTW I like Fredi G. and for all you “fire fredi” people who would you rather have? Guillen loud mouth self? Bobby V player rippin self? Just curious all you GM out there who yap withouth thinking aka ignorant fans
Ralph
May 22nd, 2012
12:10 am
J-MAN
When will you and others as well learn that DOB is not the one asking these questions on the quotes?
Robbie
May 22nd, 2012
12:10 am
Why do you all keep referencing Maddux and Glavine stats? Not only are those two once in a generation pitchers, but don’t you think they took heat for stinking up the joint too?
Mike S
May 22nd, 2012
12:15 am
You guys are all idiots. Geez, I can’t imagine the ignorant vitriol we’d see here if we weren’t in first place in the best division in baseball, with the 4th best record in the majors…
J-MAN
May 22nd, 2012
12:19 am
We talk about allowing Minor and Delgado to learn like Smoltz and Glavine. Well with the particular Brave teams that Smoltz and Glavine learned on were not in play-off contention and because of that they sold players off like Doyle Alexander and Dale Murphy. But this is a contender so the players to compare these young pitchers would be. Kevin Millwood, Jason Marquis, Odalis Perez, Jason Schmidt, Jojo Reyes, Horacio Ramirez, Steve Avery, Kent Merker, Chuck James, Buddy Carlyle, Kyle Davies, and Damien Moss…….Now how did they handle all those young pitchers……..All were young pitchers on a playoff contender. What happened to all of them was either you perform or you get sent down or we trade you for a better starter. In EVERY CASE. When you have a chance to win you GO FOR IT. Now all Im calling for is just signing Oswalt…..other than the money its low risk, since you dont trade any prospects and you can have a better chance to win.
J-MAN
May 22nd, 2012
12:21 am
On quotes somebody must ask a question for the manager to answer otherwise it would be a STATEMENT. Also Ive seen DOB on braveslive ask followup questions to Quotes……So dont give me that bull
J-MAN
May 22nd, 2012
12:26 am
See thats the problem and why Atlanta teams have only ONE CHAMPIONSHIP. The Fans dont like to ask the “Negative Questions” and hold teams accountable. WithRemember to make a diamond you need pressure. Pressure on sports teams makes them better. Now I feel that the Brave have improved but they still have flaws and they need to addressthem because we have choked big leads 2 years in a row. So now we have to show we can play good in September. The Falcons are under pressure now because of not winning a playoff game and I personally think it will make them better. Now the Braves need this same pressure and to be held ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!!
J-MAN
May 22nd, 2012
12:27 am
See thats the problem and why Atlanta teams have only ONE CHAMPIONSHIP. The Fans dont like to ask the “Negative Questions” and hold teams accountable. Remember to make a diamond you need pressure. Pressure on sports teams makes them better. Now I feel that the Braves have improved but they still have flaws and they need to addressthem because we have choked big leads 2 years in a row. So now we have to show we can play good in September. The Falcons are under pressure now because of not winning a playoff game and I personally think it will make them better. Now the Braves need this same pressure and to be held ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!!
Lobosolo
May 22nd, 2012
12:51 am
Gee, J-MAN, your WALQ* is getting impressive… alexis, help your fellow armchair out, man… y’all need to stick together… binkies are in tall order, Bub…. STAT!!! Suck-em if ya got’em!!!!
* Whine After a Loss Quotient
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
1:01 am
Well lobosolo…..its been awhile how have you been…..hows the kids.
Well Armchairs……HaHa I love it thats great
And you know what Stat means maybe I should be calling you Dr. lobosolo
Wow so apparently its ok to have a pitcher with a 6.96 ERA after 9 starts……please give me your thoughts not the usualy Blah Balh armchairs stuff. Im really interested to know how you feel about a pitcher after about third of the season having a near 7 ERA and leading the Majors in HRs allowed?
Fresno Bravo
May 22nd, 2012
1:01 am
J Man, aside from the fact that you apparently go into a complete and utter panic every time the baseball team has the audacity to lose a game, can you please provide some backup on the following:
1- When did Minor demand a trade. You have said this several times this season, yet I have no memory of such. Please enlighten me.
2- Name one credible source in a gossip filled wold where the name of Oswalt to Atlanta has been mentioned once this season.
Stanley Crowe
May 22nd, 2012
1:06 am
Minor’s last two innings were fine — I agree with Freddie G. that he can take something from that. Also, Leake is no slouch. He out-pitched Mike tonight, and has been an effective major leaguer for two seasons now. I’m not making excuses — Mike should never have allowed three HRs in a row with two outs, and we seemed out of sorts at the plate: less disciplined, more hasty, a bit perfunctory — that costly error by Francisco! We’ll bounce back. Road trips are tough, and if we split this series, I’ll be satisfied.
extremus
May 22nd, 2012
1:07 am
I know Fredi’s trying to be a player’s manager and not throw the kid under the bus, but COME ON. “Only 4 home runs”? Statements like that go a long way toward discouraging any fan confidence in the current Braves skipper.
The Braves are still in first place thankfully, but there are already serious signs that things could go south in a hurry. Minor’s becoming an automatic loss every fifth day and Delgado can’t shake the “one bad inning” syndrome that has killed him so far this season. Jason Heyward’s average has plummeted about 60 points the past couple of weeks. Johnny Venters is keeping the ball up and getting hit hard; he just doesn’t so far seem to have anywhere near the control he did last year.
I’m not saying the 2012 Braves are doomed, but it’d be nice for a change if the manager and the players began to acknowledge obvious concerns instead of spewing company line drivel (and I REALLY hope the Braves broadcasts get rid of that stupid Twitter thing; you know good and well they’ll never show anything that in any way can be construed as negative or critical, even when said comments are justified). Freddi Gonzalez in particular tends to make statements to the media that give the impression he has no clue about anything. You just don’t talk about how well your guy pitched who just lost his sixth straight decision and gave up four home runs, PERIOD. You have to balance encouragement with accountability.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
1:10 am
@ Fresno Brave heres a link to Minor Trade ultimatium made during ST
http://atlanta.sbnation.com/atlanta-braves/2012/2/23/2820271/mike-minor-atlanta-braves-trade
I have not hears anyone besides DOB from MLBTRADERUMOR.Com Its just MY OPINION that we need Oswalt because we have question marks at the #4 and 5 spots.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
1:12 am
The Error didnt cost us any Runs…..All runs were SOLO HRs. So Francisco isnt to blame
Zac in Tempe
May 22nd, 2012
1:14 am
I don’t think he would sign with a team he has never played with for the type of contract the Braves can afford.
Steve
May 22nd, 2012
1:19 am
The Braves cannot have Minor starting if they are interested in winning the division. Let Minor get his kinks worked out in AAA. Now is not the time to be teaching him lessons.
Steve
May 22nd, 2012
1:21 am
With Minor and Delgado, there is little chance of winning the division. What happened to all the vaunted pitching depth?
Fresno Bravo
May 22nd, 2012
1:25 am
All the pitching depth went out the window as soon as JJ decided he wasn’t comfortable with his knee. 3 perpetual rookies in the rotation. Beachy is the bomb so far, Delgado is ok. Up and down but can be quite good. Probably should be the #5. Minor started out great and hit a darn wall. One of the last 2 has to step up consistence, or yea, could be in trouble.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
1:39 am
well if we dont get Oswalt. Then we should let Teheran or Redmond have a chance.
Next man up.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
1:41 am
The Braves are a good team its just that even they cant afford to just give up every 5th game.
reckingball
May 22nd, 2012
1:45 am
Other than the 4 HRs, 4 BBs, and the 113 pitch count by the 6th, Minor did a pretty good job.
At least he didn’t walk anyone in front of the HRs. Bombs away.
I didn’t like that game very much.
go braves.
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
1:45 am
We don’t have the $$$ to sign Oswalt. He already turned down at least 1 offer of 1 year/$10 mil…
reckingball
May 22nd, 2012
1:47 am
Bulldog Beachy will shut the Reds down tomorrow.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
1:49 am
Other than the 4 HRs, 4 BBs, and the 113 pitch count by the 6th, Minor did a pretty good job.
Theres a bit of an oxymoron statement.
Braves need to send him down 6.96 ERA, 12 HRs allowed and a .286 average.
Next man up
reckingball
May 22nd, 2012
1:50 am
I don’t see any reason why the Braves would want to sign Oswalt.
It would be nice if his agent, would stop bringing his name up on these blogs, everytime the Braves lose a game.
GO BRAVES!! Yeaaaaaaaa team!!!
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
1:51 am
Wait reckingball I bring his name up when we win too…….at least be fair
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
1:51 am
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/nl-links-braves-oswalt-dodgers-wood.html
Although, DOB says not to rule it out. Maybe the Braves got some unknown Facebook money…lol
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
1:52 am
Not sure who the “next man up” would be….
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
1:55 am
Julio Teheran, Todd Redmond, Livian Hernandez, Kris Medlen, heck Christian Martinez.
should have the chance to be the next man up
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
1:55 am
Well DOB lets Fredi get away with “Certain things” because they are friends. — J-Man
No, we hate each other. That’s the proper relationship between manager and beat writer. Glad we could clear that up.
Frank from Valdosta, you’re up next. What would you like to complain about regarding this bumbling team and clueless media members who cover it?
reckingball
May 22nd, 2012
1:58 am
@1:49am……In the words of the great Foghorn Leghorn, “I say, it’s a joke son, do you get it?”
@1:51………Yes J-MAN, yes you do, win or lose, Wren will never sign him, he’s about wore-out anyway, isn’t he?
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
1:59 am
When will you and others as well learn that DOB is not the one asking these questions on the quotes? — Ralph
Actually, DOB asked about one-third of the questions tonight and more in Arizona when Fox Sports’ clubhouse reporter Tom Hart wasn’t there for a couple of Peachtree games.
Billy in Savannah, you’re up next. What erroneous information would you like to disperse about the media and how we do our jobs?
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:00 am
Why i’m not more sympathetic toward Minor was from that trade ultimatium…….I get that you were a 1st round pick. But who the hell are you to give ultimatiums, Look at Brandon Beachy a guy that wasnt a 1st round pick heck he wasnt even drafted. But what does he do he goes out there and gets better and hold himself accountable. You ran your mouth and havent performed 6.96 ERA (2nd worst in the NL) 12 HRs allowed (worst in the Majors), and a .286 average. So when you talk garbage YOU BETTER PERFORM…………You should be in AAA
NEXT MAN UP!!!!!!!!!!!
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
2:01 am
I have not hears anyone besides DOB from MLBTRADERUMOR.Com Its just MY OPINION that we need Oswalt because we have question marks at the #4 and 5 spots. — J-Man
Thank you, J-Man, until this comment I don’t think we knew where you stood on the Oswalt situation. Jerry from Augusta, you’re up next. Any point you’d like to make 12 times a day for the next week?
David
May 22nd, 2012
2:02 am
J Man,
Shut the hell up your a moron
Sincerely,
Earth
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:03 am
Appreciacte the reply DOB…….But what how is giving up 4 HRs a good thing. Also how is a 6.96 ERA (2nd worst in the NL) 12 HRs allowed (worst in the Majors), and a .286 average acceptable. In fact the only reason Minor is still here is because he is a Lefty and we dont have any Lefties that can start
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:05 am
Na Earth is lame so I think I’ll keep talking
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
2:06 am
Well, this just got good
where’s my popcorn?
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:06 am
DOB, come on I think Ive mentioned Oswalt more than 12 times a day you gotta give me more credit than that.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:10 am
But the main point is not Oswalt…..its the fact we have a Starter with a 6.96 ERA. And he keeps getting thrown out there every 5th day……Remember Lowe being thrown out every 5th day with a 5+ERA getting lit up and us missing the playoffs by ONE GAME. Similar stories.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:10 am
But the main point is not Oswalt…..its the fact we have a Starter with a 6.96 ERA. And he keeps getting thrown out there every 5th day……Remember Lowe being thrown out every 5th day with a 5+ERA getting lit up and us missing the playoffs by ONE GAME. Similar stories.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:11 am
Sorry about the double comment hope it doesnt give you double vision……….But maybe you will listen to some Foreigner instead
David
May 22nd, 2012
2:14 am
We get it you don’t want Minor in the rotation yet you’ll moan like the little school girl that you sound like when we put someone else in there who doesnt perform to your standards. Understand the game before you keep bashing a 26-17 team. Or why dont u put on a glove and take the hill next start maybe you’ll have better luck. Take care. Go Braves. My blogging bashing career is over a little overrated but when we roll tide tomorrow i dont wanna sniff your negative ass from the comforts of my home.
Don
May 22nd, 2012
2:14 am
So I sense a lot of hostility here. DOB and J-Man you need to hug anger is never the way
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
2:18 am
“Julio Teheran, Todd Redmond, Livian Hernandez, Kris Medlen, heck Christian Martinez.”
You listed 3 important parts of our bullpen – and while I’m all about Medlen starting, you have to remember he’d be on an innings limit this year…I’m not sure Livan could be any better as a starter, and Cristhian Martinez is totally unproven as a starter. You’d need to get another multi-inning capable reliever in there, which I’m not sure we have. Teheran is just as inconsistant as Minor – he got shelled about a week ago, then threw 7 good innings Sat night.
Todd Redmond might be your only somewhat logical choice – but no experience in the ML – so…unproven, again.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:20 am
Im not being negative in fact I have high expectation for this team…….I dont want what happened last year to happen again. But you must have an impressive computer if it allows you to “Sniff your negative ass” ……you must have smell-o-vision……..Remember these are WORDS they involve the sense of VISION, not the sense of SMELL……But it must be confusing with all those Strawberry Shortcake stationary books you used to have growing up right next to your Barbie dolls and Dresses. But I understand why you saw Ken as a role model sense both of you have no balls…………..
Brandon
May 22nd, 2012
2:22 am
I disagree J-Man about Minor being in the majors because he is the only lefty. If we look at the other options:
Julio Teheran might be tearing up AAA, but so would Minor. Teheran gave up more homers than any starter in Spring Training against Major League pitching. He still has things to work out.
Jurrjens, if still in the majors, would probably have the worst ERA
Medlen is no longer stretched out, and actually, neither is Livan (although i suspect that he could still probably start)
I don’t see any other options, except possibly a Todd Redmond, but who knows what he can do?
What I saw with minor was just lack of command. He pitched 2 strong 1-2-3 innings at the end of his outing, and in the 2nd inning, he should’ve gone 1-2-3 if it weren’t for the francisco error. If he could’ve located his offspeed stuff the whole game the way that he did in those final 2 innings, we would’ve seen an entirely different pitcher. His problem is command, and i don’t see anybody internally doing anything better for us at the moment. I think that he has to get through this because he can help the team a lot if he can just find the consistency.
One more thing, I may be one of the only people other than you that believes that Oswalt could be of help. Another veteran would be nice, because i really don’t see internal options being of any significant help
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
2:23 am
…now children, play/fight nice…
Don
May 22nd, 2012
2:23 am
Oh snap, J-Man dropped the Hammer on David. DAMN….J-Man relax bro hate is never the answer
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:25 am
My bad I get carried away some/all the times
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:26 am
I wish Sarcasim could be detected from regular text. Cause sometimes I really get you people.
Bobby's Cox
May 22nd, 2012
2:26 am
“The game is played to win. Minor absolutely must be pulled after the 3rd of the back-to-back-to-back”
Ummm, no dude. You try and get more innings out of him, because we’re playing like 30 games in 31 days. You replace him after only 4 IP and you run the risk of destroying your bullpen in the grand scheme of things. This isn’t football.
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
2:27 am
While Oswalt might be a great option, in theory, his salary last year was $16mil – I don’t see him taking a drastic pay cut – and as I stated, he’s already turned down one offer of 1 year/$10 mil, so…
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
2:29 am
But hey, maybe we can start having some fundraisers…car washes, donation jars….J-Man and David can have a “celebrity deathmatch”
David
May 22nd, 2012
2:29 am
Would not call that dropping the hammer pretty unoriginal comeback. Yes words involve vision. I’ll drop my balls in your girls mouth if that would suffice Maybe she can refute your ball less comment.
Bobby's Cox
May 22nd, 2012
2:30 am
And here are the fickle, uneducated fans DOB keeps tweeting and blogging about.
“Only 4 HR’s” as in, only four “SOLO” Hr’s. Read between the quotes people. The man gave up only 5 hits. I like the approach they’re taking with the kids and Minor. You need to be patient with young players. They’re never superstars their first year, or two or three. Sometimes they take 4, or 5, or 6 years.
Brandon
May 22nd, 2012
2:32 am
@JNick i don’t really know how practical it would be to acquire him.
but we both agree that it would be a good option in theory
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:33 am
David your gonna drop your balls in my inflatable dolls mouth????????
See I have a sense of humor unlike you…….BTW you have permission to use that line in future insults……Pay it forward.
Darryl Blackberry
May 22nd, 2012
2:35 am
Delgado’s got a good mound presence, at least. Minor just seems sulky and hangdog out there after every mistake he makes…but never recovers. Say what you will about JJ, but he never pouted on the mound, nor has he overused post-game phrases like “I just made non-competitive pitches” or “That’s what hitters do to mistakes at this level.”
Wouldn’t it be nice — just once — to see Mike Minor show some fire out there? I half expected him to trash the dugout after the back-to-back-to-back home runs today…and I would’ve welcomed it.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:36 am
I realize Oswalt is more than likely not gonna happen. But I can still hold out hope
Biff Pocoroba
May 22nd, 2012
2:37 am
I have to say, I am in J-Man’s camp on this one.
I understand that you have to be patient with young players, but this team has the potential to win now. Glavine, Smoltz and Maddog all cut their teeth on crappy non-contenders. Minor doesn’t have that luxury. We were patient with Lowe last year and missed the playoffs by one game.
DOB does a great job covering this team (I wish the Falcons coverage was 1/2 as good), but he dropped the ball if he let Fredi slide with the “It’s just 4 solo HR’s” quote. It isn’t just 4 HR’s. Minor has been scuffling for a while. I understand it is Fredi’s job to protect his players, but it is the media’s job to ask the tough questions. I am not saying you have to be like the NY media, but there has to be a middle ground.
Brandon
May 22nd, 2012
2:39 am
@Darryl Blackberry – JJ is one of my favorite players and I’d love to see him back in Atlanta.
As for Minor, he does always seems a little reserved. I think thats just his personality though, even when he was pitching great, there was no great emotion. I don’t try to look much into it
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:40 am
Well Im glad I have some support. Im not wrong all the time. I figure I’m batting around .300
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:41 am
Besides I like to “Andy Kaufman” you people sometimes and just mess with you…..Its halarious…..I even got DOB tonight
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:42 am
Oops I ment to spell it hilarious……thatll drop my avg.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:44 am
But in all seriousness . Minor is just ineffective 6.96 ERA (2nd in the NL), you cant just give away every 5th game and expect to make the playoffs. Thats just making it extra difficult.
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
2:45 am
@Darryl, I agree, I was hoping to see Minor chuck a Gatorade cooler or something…lol. Not necessarily pull a Lou Pinella or Carlos Zambrano, or even a Bryce Harper, but at least stomp his foot or kick a kitten….something.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:50 am
I dont know about that JNick. There is an injury risk there. Plus we dont want him to pull a Milton Bradley or Carlos Zambrano. But if he would remember that he doesnt throw 97 and throws 91 and not challange hitteers in the middle of the Zone he would be a lot better. Plus he needs to pitch better with runners on and make better adjustments against hitters that see him 2nd time in the lineup. But more emotion would help Minor. But Minor in AAA would help the Braves more.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:52 am
Well Im going to bed…………and lobosolo Ill save your time “Blah Blah Armchairs”, and David I can save your time as well “Duh Duh Duh Duh, balls in your girls mouth Duh Duh Duh”
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
2:54 am
in all fairness all I’ll say is “Wonk Wonk Wonk Oswalt Wonk Wonk Wonk Wonk” anyways
Peace out
Goooooo Braves!!!!!!!!!
JNick
May 22nd, 2012
2:55 am
Well, if he hurts himself, then that opens the door for someone else to get a shot….lol.
J-Man
May 22nd, 2012
3:03 am
Good Point JNick lol
cowdogit
May 22nd, 2012
3:34 am
Some of the league’s home run hitters are calling Minor to pitch to them in the next home run derby.
David the Shepherd
May 22nd, 2012
4:18 am
Sorry, Dave. When you have pictures of you and the “manager” riding bikes together, you are going to get some “soft question” comments. Anybody who thinks Fredi G is the best manager the Braves can get is delusional. LamoHomo, can you post anything that doesn’t involve “armchair”, or “binkie”? Your comments have become as stale as your style.
clay
May 22nd, 2012
4:34 am
starting to look like nothing but excuses. You don’t give up 4hr’s on a “crazy game” I understand that the braves didn’t hit tonight which happens. But you just don’t give up 4hr’s because it was some bad luck. One more start from minor and if it doesn’t go well, they will bring up Tehran. Or at least the need to.
LivinInAL
May 22nd, 2012
4:54 am
Only four homers? Ah, I guess we have to tip our cap to them…
bravesgrl4life
May 22nd, 2012
5:22 am
Another Monday loss. I wasn’t too confident anyway based on our 2012 Monday record and Minor on the mound. Just go get ‘em Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
Big thing this week: The Nats are comin’! In the past, the Nats have not been a good team but have been a thorn in the Braves’ side. Maybe now that the Nats are playing well, we’ll follow our formula and play them harder than we do teams we are “supposed” to beat.
tim
May 22nd, 2012
6:57 am
Those who can do those who can’t sit around and bitch about it. Biggest problem with electronic media the 100+ clowns who have written on here about how bad Minor is or how stupid Fredi G is. Well here is what I see a kid who is only going to continue to improve a major league manager something I am not qualified to do neither are the morons that post here. Check out names like Glavine,Smoltz,Ryan see how their first 23-50 starts this young man is going to be a very serviceable MLB pitcher. I like all of you love the game of baseball too I have watched coached and played for many years but in no way am I qualified to manage a major league team anymore than most of you are not qualified to own and run an insurance agency such as mine nor I your jobs.
TRIPLETHREAT
May 22nd, 2012
7:34 am
WHY IS THIS ALL ABOUT MINOR WE HAD 2 HITS?
Braves BouF
May 22nd, 2012
7:39 am
Fredi G…what are you smoking? Minor pitched well? It was ONLY four solo homers? Are you kidding me?? Send that kid down, bring up JJ or Teharan….Minor can be a cocky kid at times too, he needed to come back down to earth..
Fredi…..Wake up!!
Hosea Williams
May 22nd, 2012
7:40 am
Young pitchers with no confidence and no idea how to get batters out…we need a new pitching coach, he is ruining all these kids we are trying to bring up. They all have the same issue, confidence and no plan of attack. Be aggressive as the pitcher, all braves pitches nibble…throw the damn ball.
Buckbaloweme
May 22nd, 2012
7:41 am
come on guys, can’t we all just tip our caps to the reds.
Braves BouF
May 22nd, 2012
7:42 am
The hitting has gone south for quite some time now…it wasnt just tonites game..
I mean, McCann is hitting 240, Uggla cant hit with a runner in scoring position to save his life, Heyward is at 242..its the same ol’ same ol’
BTW,,,,,Francisco is a LOUSY infielder!
Game Changer
May 22nd, 2012
7:46 am
@all:
I was very happy with the adjustment that Minor made pitching in this game. For once he maintain mound presence and delivered good pitches. This outing was a great improvement, what I dont see is a understanding in with the pitches being called in the count and placement. This is a very sore subject with me and the young pitchers, we really need a good pitching coach at Atlanta, Gwinnet Braves and probably Mississippi.
The BAD from last night. The continuing poor hitting by the numbers 3, 4 and 6 batter last night. 5 k in 11 at bats. Uggle has a higher STRIKE OUT AVERAGE than most batting averages of the players, the multi million dollar flop
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May 22nd, 2012
8:36 am
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Hey DOB
May 22nd, 2012
8:37 am
What is the status on JJ? When is he coming back up??
Rafael
May 22nd, 2012
8:39 am
I knew I saw Mike Minor this past weekend.
Minor was golfing in a foursome with Kenshin Kawakami, Scott Proctor, and Scott Linebrink at Rivermont Golf & Country Club.
Obviously those three gave Mr. Minor great advice and pitching tips.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
8:43 am
The hitting has gone south for quite some time now…it wasnt just tonites game..
I mean, McCann is hitting 240… — Braves BouF
The Braves are third in the NL in average (.265), third in OBP (.331), second in runs (217) and fourth in homers (42).
For the month of May, the Braves are fourth in average (.271), third in OBP (.340) and second in runs (101).
For the month of May, McCann has hit .283 with three homers, a team-high 15 RBIs and a .377 OBP
But don’t let facts stand in the way of your arguments.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
8:50 am
“Only 4 HR’s” as in, only four “SOLO” Hr’s. Read between the quotes people. The man gave up only 5 hits. — Bobby’s Cox
Exactly. Thank you. Glad to see SOME understand that quote. I really didn’t think it was that confusing.
PMC
May 22nd, 2012
9:02 am
Mike and Mike showing those back to back homers ad nauseum.
Those two pitches couldn’t have been grooved better than that unfortunately. BP fastballs.
I’m thinking Minor even if he is the only lefty, needs a trip down.
PMC
May 22nd, 2012
9:04 am
It’s not like Minor is bad, this is just a bad stretch. He’s obviously got good stuff but what’s the point of having all these guys on the team that can pitch if we’re going to let guys work out issues on the major league level?
PMC
May 22nd, 2012
9:05 am
The team is streaky, some nights they are only going to have 2 hits. Overall though, the hitting has been awesome this year.
Bob the Blogger
May 22nd, 2012
9:24 am
Giving up 4 runs in 6 innings isn’t good, but Minor could have given up 2 runs in 7 innings and we still would have lost.
I would still rather see Medlen out there every 5 days. We have two other pitchers who can go multiple innings. The logic was that Medlen was coming back from TJ surgery and couldn’t be expected to throw too many innings. However, we’re nearly two months into the season, and Medlen would be the fifth starter, meaning he would be skipped from time to time.
HolyCrap
May 22nd, 2012
9:32 am
Yes, Minor gave up four runs but he really did show some poise sticking it out those next two innings. I was just as pissed as the rest of you Fredi left him out there, but it truly may be for the best for him. There is no way the homers to Leake and Cozart are home runs in any other park except Philly. Relax people, he did only give up four runs, albeit an ugly four. You guys are just ridiculous how you seem to enjoy second guessing Fredi and looking for any reason to bash him. Last I checked the Braves are still in first!
ijudgenot
May 22nd, 2012
9:35 am
You have to admit the “only four homeruns” quote from Fredi even if he meant only four “solo” homeruns is disheartening to a fan. Three of them were given up in a row, with the pitcher starting the parade. Does anyone know how many times in these last 5 Minor starts that he has been caught by McCann and not Ross? The Braves have a young staff outside of Hudson. A young staff needs a catcher who can call a good game based on the situation and how the hitters are reacting. Ross would be a better battery mate for Minor and Delgado. Ross is a much better caller of pitches than McCann. McCan seems to be going by a pre designed script and does not deviate from that, even if opposing team is knocking the hell out of the ball.
J2405
May 22nd, 2012
9:39 am
Zzzzz…Another game that is gonna have all the bloggers rant and rave to change this and that. The only pitcher who should be considered to start in place of Minor is Chris Medlen. I would like to see what he would do with that opportunity. Otherwise, let the season progress..this is a solid team.
TPic
May 22nd, 2012
9:40 am
DOB, Perhaps Braves BouF was referring to the last several games. Despite having a strong month overall, the team has avergaed 3.5 runs over its last eight games. Thery are 4-4 in those contests and there are way too many games where the club scores three runs or less.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
9:58 am
DOB, Perhaps Braves BouF was referring to the last several games. — TPic
Yeah, well in that case, you know what TPic? EVERY major league team, even the Rangers, has plenty “last several game” stretches where their pitching or hitting is bad, sometimes because the opponent happens to be doing particularly well at that time in a particular area, and sometimes just because it is absolutely impossible to be consistent for 162 games.
One more time: This ain’t football. It’s 162 games. The best teams lose 55-70 of those games.
ATL87
May 22nd, 2012
9:58 am
JJ looks like hes done. Gave up 11 hits and 7 ER last night.
Ekim
May 22nd, 2012
10:06 am
Seems like many of the doom and gloomers on this blog lack a certain perspective. Quotes like “good teams don’t do this” and “how do you stay with a guy that is so awful” forget the fact that the team is still playing over .600 baseball, second best record in the league, among the MLB leaders in runs scored. Every team has flaws. If you compare the Braves day in and day out against the highlights of the other teams on ESPN, you’re going to get a skewed view that says the Braves are awful. But they’re not. They’re not close to awful. They have awful moments at times, but everybody does that. Get a grip.
BALI
May 22nd, 2012
10:15 am
to bear down or bare down that is the question…
TPic
May 22nd, 2012
10:17 am
DOB, I’m sorry I struck a nerve. I didn’t realize bringing up other facts would be so sensitive. How about if we do this – you state your facts and I state mine. And then we discuss them without becoming all defensive and feeling attacked. Will that work for you?
TPic
May 22nd, 2012
10:20 am
I happen to agree with you by the way – no one expects a team to not go through rough stretches during the season. But the best teams tend to flatten those performance amplitudes better than those who have poor seasons.
Bobby's Chauffeur
May 22nd, 2012
10:23 am
Put it in prospective. The kid had a bad game. Jeeez.. Let’s cut his arm off. Let’s throw him under the bus. It wasn’t pretty, hopefully he learned something from this experience. The Reds defense was awesome last night. A break here or there and we may have been able to score a few more runs. It is one game. We didn’t hit. Stuff happens. Now, grab your 8 year old son and whack him across the mouth because he struck out. yeah, that will teach him.
Ralph
May 22nd, 2012
10:29 am
Bring up Buddy Carlyle for middle releif and move Meds into the 5 spot in the rotation, send Minor down. Release Durbin and bring up Gearin.
No Flag Since Lemke
May 22nd, 2012
10:30 am
Did I understand Gonzalez correctly? “A teaching moment.” There is a place (or places) for teaching moments.They are AAA, AA and single A. As it stands now, Beachy, Huddy and Hansen have to win virtually every time out to offset Minor and keep us at .600. Delgado, while tolerable, will probably only be at .500 for the season.
wjones
May 22nd, 2012
10:32 am
“J-MAN
May 21st, 2012
11:08 pm
How about we have a pole as to wether Minor should be here or sent down……I know an overwhelming majority would send him down……………..
WE NEED OSWALT!!!!!!!!!!!!”
OK, if you think a pole would help us I’ll go along with that. But you weren’t very specific. What kind of pole? A flag pole? A barber pole? (Those are so pretty with the red and white stripes). A stripper pole? A 10-foot pole? And I’m not sure why we would need to get one for Oswalt to join the team…or why Minor would need to take a pole with him to AAA…but if you think it would help….
Nattering Nabob
May 22nd, 2012
10:33 am
I love it when DOB gets feisty.
Ralph
May 22nd, 2012
10:34 am
QUESTION: When was the last time Oswalt pitched in a game?
wjones
May 22nd, 2012
10:40 am
Some of you “tough love” folks here probably admired the way that George Steinbrenner ran the Yankees. Remember the 80’s? If the manager didn’t win, or had a slump, REPLACE HIM! If a prospect came up and didn’t set the woods on fire, TRADE HIM! Keep that shuttle going weekly between New York and AAA!! No time for patience! We are here to win! Yep. Worked too, didn’t it? You realize that for 13 straight years the Yankees sat out the post-season? What brought them back? Someone got to George that he needed to let some of the prize prospects settle in and play. You know, guys like Jeter, Bernie, Posada, Pettitte, Rivera,etc. You can still spend your money, but chill out a little. And of course it worked. It worked better for that period of time than it’s worked since, when their payroll mushroomed, they still made the post-season every year, but have only been in one World Series the last 10 years. Now back to the 13-year post-season drought. You know how long it has been since the Braves have had a drought that long? Hint–they were in Boston.
Ralph
May 22nd, 2012
10:44 am
If Wren were to be stupid enough to sign Oswalt it would take a month to get him ready and then we don’t know what we wou.ld be getting. Braves just don’t have that kind of money to take that kind of gamble.
DawgDad
May 22nd, 2012
10:54 am
I would like to point out Mike Minor is 24-1/2 years old. He is no longer a “kid”, yet even the manager keeps referring to him that way. He doesn’t need “teaching moments”, he needs to get his act together or be held accountable like a man. This is not Vanderbilt, or Mississippi. Management should not be “coddling” draftees out of college.
It was good to see him go back out there and pitch two scoreless innings. That was about the only positive to take away from that game, offensively or defensively.
oldman
May 22nd, 2012
10:55 am
It is like last week when JJ gave up 11 runs in a game and Fredi said it really wasnt that bad.What game is he watching?….He really has NO CLUE
henry tn
May 22nd, 2012
10:57 am
it makes no difference who was pitching last night the braves would have lost, because they could not hit a mediocre pitcher that was 0 and 6 coming in they let him beat them last year not to mention they let bailey beat them who was 0 and 4 at the time last week too. and they will face bailey again thursday where they will get beat again , because they don’t prepare against mediocre pitchers who they think will be a pushover…also i wish selfish A H j-man would quit hogging up the blog space he bloged 10 or 12 times when all he had to say was send minor down and get oswalt where he could have said in one blog lol….
ct
May 22nd, 2012
11:03 am
minor will be good in the future but right now i would bring jj back cant forget what he did for us early last season minor hasnt proved anything to me yet
Braves-a-Go-Go
May 22nd, 2012
11:04 am
I keep seeing Minor compared favorably to Tom Glavinin’s early years. The difference is Glavine played on a last-place team, and the Braves could afford to let him struggle. You know the old saying — “You can’t win the pennant in May, but you can sure lose it.” I wonder if we’ll look back in September and realize we let the pennant slip away with Minor-in-May.
Don
May 22nd, 2012
11:06 am
Same old – same old – same old Braves –
An 0-5 Pitcher and the Braves get 2 hits.
TOMY FOURNIER
May 22nd, 2012
11:47 am
I’m with you J-MAN….four home run and with that ERA…what the hell is doing that guy in Big League…and look at the team…nothing again the other pitcher…just two hits…what I said before…”ATLANTA IS A PRETENDER…NOT A CONTENDER”…at the end of the baseball season…everybody will see!!!!!…If they do not make a good move…..sing or trade!!!
Tommy
May 22nd, 2012
12:00 pm
We DO NOT WANT OSWALD!!!!
Felix
May 22nd, 2012
12:15 pm
That was a pathetic performance last night by the Braves bats. I mean 2 hits against that guy? I’m going to say it was due to the travel from Fla. with no day off right after the ‘high’ of a great series in Tampa/St.Pete.
I hope Bourn gets going again soon—our W /L record when he is hitting/scoring is excellent.
kdawg1017
May 22nd, 2012
12:40 pm
ya lets send minor down so he can get fixed like jj errr or like we did with frenchy errrr or we can trade him like wainright errrr i guess you guys know everything
hiway61
May 22nd, 2012
12:41 pm
Don’t have a heart attack J-Man..I just read on MLB that Rangers were going to try to sign your friend Oswalt… So please take a Aspirin asp.
Tommy
May 22nd, 2012
12:54 pm
@hiway61 Aspirin wiil not do him any good. He is so obsessed with Oswalt, maybe he should marry him. We do not need pitching. We need someone that can hit the curve ball and change up.
James Toolin
May 22nd, 2012
1:01 pm
Aim for Mat Latos. Make Latos intolerent Braves intolerent.
oldman
May 22nd, 2012
1:02 pm
We cant blame the hiting..cuz we have the 2 greatest hitting coaches in history of baseball..just listen to those BOZOS on radio pregame and post game.
oldman
May 22nd, 2012
1:03 pm
the guys on radio act like braves are 27 yankees
Tommy
May 22nd, 2012
1:07 pm
@oldman…. If our pitching coaches are so great, Why cant we hit a pitcher that throws Junk
hiway61
May 22nd, 2012
1:08 pm
Read DOB @8:43..cuz.
we do have very good hitting coaches.
leftrecursion
May 22nd, 2012
1:10 pm
This is my first time posting this season. I love this team and I think they’re playing great but they need another starting pitcher. Hudson looks great, Beachy looks great and Hanson is a good number 4 (although he should be the #2). As for Minor and Delgado, Delgado is and can be carried as the #5 starter because the kid has the mound presence but needs the experience; he’s serviceable. Minor on the other hand looks like a scared little boy on the mound. He’s lost his command and looks just as if not more lost than JJ looked when he went down. The Braves need to face facts, if they plan on winning the division or competing in the playoffs they’re a #3 starter away from doing so. I don’t blame Wren or Fredi for this as they were counting on JJ being that guy and it didn’t work out. I will blame them if they continue to let Minor walk out on that mound every five days instead of addressing the glaring issue.
Beck
May 22nd, 2012
1:12 pm
No one expects a team to not go through rough stretches during the season. But the best teams tend to flatten those performance amplitudes better than those who have poor seasons. – TPic
If 4-4 is a rough stretch, I’ll take it.
Larry
May 22nd, 2012
1:15 pm
There is only one manager in MLB that down 4-1, and his pitcher having given up 4 home runs (3 back to back to back) would have allowed the saem pitcher to lead off the 6th inning.
This means either our manager is the dumbest, or the smartest, manager in baseball.
Final score: 4-1
phil
May 22nd, 2012
1:19 pm
Only 4 homeruns….
that’s not good. Period. Solo or not. 5 total hits or not.
4 moonshot homers, including one by the pitcher, is a piss poor outing. It just is.
Maybe next time, he’ll do better. Heck, even this outing was better than the 2 before it.
But trying to claim 4 homeruns is no biggie is silly.
Brandon
May 22nd, 2012
1:20 pm
If it makes you guys feel any better, tim lincecum has a 6.04 ERA in 9 starts and he’s still in the big leagues making 20 mil a year
phil
May 22nd, 2012
1:21 pm
If you have homefield advantage, win one, lose one wins the series…that works I guess, IF you have homefield…
phil
May 22nd, 2012
1:23 pm
Lincecum has quite the track record…
Minor has a track record of allowing moonshot homers….
I feel worse.
Brandon
May 22nd, 2012
1:26 pm
sorry phil haha
What ?
May 22nd, 2012
1:34 pm
Heads will NEVER roll in Atlanta, They NEVER do !!!! Some quit, but the teams in this town don’t have the GUTS to support THE FANS and Fire people who need to be fired !!!
Another collaspe will do nothing, nothing at all, neither “freddi” nor “wren” will go, the Braves are simply TOO loyal to them, and wren needs to go NOW, and freddi, has about two months if
a real owner was in control. Gee Whiz a REAL owner, sounds like Atlanta STUPID Group again !!!
At least I don’t think the Braves lie like they do and they want fans, while the others HATE fans and lie like the Devil !!! Damn shame this is not a four sport town, but it IS the WORST sports town in the USA !!!!!!!! We are on top at something !
CarMike
May 22nd, 2012
2:31 pm
Oldman…the radio and TV guys slobber all over the Braves no matter what the score or situation. Just a bunch of grown men acting like cheerleaders instead of journalists. The Braves pre game show used to be the worst but the TV postgame is quickly making strides.
Zac in Tempe
May 22nd, 2012
2:33 pm
For heads to roll the Braves would need money to replace the headless.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
May 22nd, 2012
3:09 pm
4 solo shots and all, fact is Bravos scored 1 run on 2 hits. Del Gado did not pitch horribly in Tampa, he got squeezed by ump and Minor did not pitch badly either considering. If you dont score more runs then the other team then, you lose the game.
BravesFAN
May 22nd, 2012
3:09 pm
DOB – What are your thoughts on Jason Heyward at the plate right now?
His average an OBP have consistently gone down the last month. April 21st his avg was .315 and his OBP was .383 now it’s May 22nd and his avg is .241 with an OBP of .333. His average has dropped 74 points and his OBP has dropped 50.
The last 14 games he’s drawn 3 walks compared to 16 K’s. For the entire month he’s hit for a .206 avg and a .325 OBP which is pathetic. Of his 10 walks this month 7 came in the first 5 days of the month. His avg, OBP, SLG %, and OPS have all dropped since April. His average and OBP and SLG% aren’t much better than his injury plagued 2011 season.
What’s the deal and is this what we should expect from J-Hey? He’s not injured as far as I know so why isn’t he performing like he did in his rookie year when he was healthy?
TPic
May 22nd, 2012
3:13 pm
Beck, 4-4 is definitely an acceptable bad stretch. But I think my comments are a little out of context there. You took a portion of my response to another response about someone else’s comments. Things tend to get wrinkled that many times through a cycle. My point was not that 4-4 was a rough patch, but that better teams find ways to limit losing skeins and extended periods of bad play. I think any team would love a split during the hard times.
count_schemula
May 22nd, 2012
3:17 pm
I think I saw Oswalt at the Atlanta airport…
BravesFAN
May 22nd, 2012
3:37 pm
Heyward is on pace for more K’s in 123 games (114 K’s) than last year when he was hurt most of the year and played in 128 games and had 93 K’s. He’s also drawing walks at about the same rate as last year when he was injured and had such a terrible OBP. His slugging % and OPS are up but he’s on pace for about the same amount of doubles and homers as last year but a lot more RBI’s. His OBP is 60 points lower than his rookie year when he was mostly healthy.
Well this year he’s healthy as far as we know and his average, OBP, K’s, and walks are all a lot more similar to his terrible 2011 numbers than his rookie year numbers. I’m wondering if this is the real Jason Heyward and that his rookie year was just an outlier and not what we should really expect from him…
Billy Brave
May 22nd, 2012
4:02 pm
Everyones talking about Minor,but what about Dan(the strikeout man) Ugli in the cleanup spot. If he doesn”t lead the majors in K s he has got to be near the top. Put a contact hitter there, please. I get so tired of him fanning with men on base. It is absurd. I only wish he could hit half as well as he can hug.
reckingball
May 22nd, 2012
4:06 pm
A loss sure does double up the hits on the old blog.
You see the names of commenters, that you never see, when things are going good.
go braves!
Coach28
May 22nd, 2012
4:57 pm
It’s amazing how 90% of people who comment on sports related banter know NOTHING about how the game works. Beyond the elementary stuff….3 outs, 3 strikes, 4 balls..etc.. A by-product of throwing strikes is giving up hits…whether long balls or long flyballs. Mike Minor is no Tim Hudson. Tim Hudson in this ballpark would be fine…Minor is a flyball pitcher..but you have to play the hand thats dealt. I love that the kid made no excuses…and Fredi is right.
reckingball
May 22nd, 2012
5:14 pm
The Great American Small Park, a launching pad for the long ball.
flagger
May 22nd, 2012
5:21 pm
Keep running Minor out and leave Uggly batting cleanup Freddie and pretty soon we gonna have a new manager…
No. 1 Braves Fan
May 22nd, 2012
5:35 pm
Who are you going to hire flagger?
Ralph
May 22nd, 2012
6:58 pm
I would like to see Cal Ripkin as manager, he believes in playing every day, wouldn’t rest his hottest hitter under any circumstance.
phil
May 22nd, 2012
7:02 pm
FG is why Bourn stopped hitting…
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2012
8:48 pm
Two of Beachy’s three multi-homer games have come here at Cincy, and the other at Coors Field.
Hey, by the way, as ballpark hot dogs go, the Big Red Smokey here at Riverfront Dogs concession is at or near top of my list.