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CrαZy
May 17th, 2012
3:03 pm
Terrible lineup just terrible!!!
Jimmy
May 17th, 2012
3:03 pm
RC – you are right. There were other factors involved with the Lowe situation. I kinda forgot why that had to happen.
Isn’t this the FMJ lineup?
Chris Vivlamore
May 17th, 2012
3:03 pm
Braves lineup vs. Marlins: Bourn 8, Prado 7, Freeman 3, Uggla 4, McCann 2, Jones 5, Heyward 9, Pastornicky 6, Beachy 1
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:04 pm
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:01 pm
how in the world could we afford Oswalt? and why in the world would we even want to?
That would actually be a really good idea. 1 yr 2 mil max. Perfect guy to have like Huddy and help out those young guys.
Ward
May 17th, 2012
3:05 pm
You have Flande, and then the return of Moylan in the bull – pen, and Medlen as the starter in replace of Minor.
ncscoots
May 17th, 2012
3:05 pm
and why in the world would we even want to?
Because he’s not already on the roster, LOL. He would be New! Exciting! Different!
Fish Bisch
May 17th, 2012
3:06 pm
Beachy is fugly.
CrαZy
May 17th, 2012
3:06 pm
Bat Pastornicky leadoff and then give up on him after 1 game…. geez this guy really is an idiot!!!
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:06 pm
Medlen wont start. Teheran will be called up or….. Minor sent to bullpen and Hernandez starter….
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:07 pm
hands down, Beachy is the cutest team member at this time.
2nd, behind Tyler… but yes he is quite the handsome dude
two poor outings in a row from Martinez too. aren’t there a few pitchers on the blog?
I’m one, but still in high school bal….
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:07 pm
That would actually be a really good idea. 1 yr 2 mil max…
you are kidding right? He has supposedly turned down way more than that already
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
CrαZy
May 17th, 2012
3:06 pm
Bat Pastornicky leadoff and then give up on him after 1 game…. geez this guy really is an idiot!!!
uh….. bcuz bourn is the leadoff hitter. idiot
ncscoots
May 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
If I see Livan Hernandez in the first inning, I’m gonna hurl industrial-grade chunks.
NC Roseman
May 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
Oh I don’t know nolie, how about lifetime record of 159-93 with ERA of 3.21
2011 he was 9-10 with 3.69 ERA…that’s a we bit better than your boy, Minor
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
That would actually be a really good idea. 1 yr 2 mil max. Perfect guy to have like Huddy and help out those young guys.
Oswalt’s not getting only 2 mil unless he’s signed in late August
cricket
May 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
Adrian Gonzalez on umpiring, don’t remember last time an active hitter venting like this -
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=7940450&i=TWT&w=1brq9&wjb
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:10 pm
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:07 pm
That would actually be a really good idea. 1 yr 2 mil max…
you are kidding right? He has supposedly turned down way more than that already
No im not. And yes i know that. You said why would they want to. Well one year 2M or even 3M(maybe) and why wouldnt they? really? that was dumb
kenhotlanta
May 17th, 2012
3:10 pm
Francisco should be in the doghouse for getting thrown out at 3rd last night…that bonehead play seemed to take all the wind out or our sails.
Ward
May 17th, 2012
3:10 pm
All, it’s been good talking! Hope the Braves have some magic tonight? Talk tonight after game, and still try to be calm if tonights game doesn’t work out? Peace my friends…….”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:11 pm
my boy Minor? are you blind or just seriously lacking in reading comprehension?
I have never been a Minor supporter.
Between that stoopid suggestion of what Oswalt would cost and calling Minor my boy you are coming across as seriously challenged
Ease
May 17th, 2012
3:11 pm
aren’t there a few pitchers on the blog? – nolie
raises hand
CrαZy
May 17th, 2012
3:12 pm
Jo Nicca
Maybe you’re just too stupid to see sarcasm… My 3:06 was oozing sarcasm!! Idiot.
Jimmy
May 17th, 2012
3:12 pm
Thanks for the “ownage” Fisch Bish.
I predict a win tonight…based on that, and a few other things.
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:12 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
That would actually be a really good idea. 1 yr 2 mil max. Perfect guy to have like Huddy and help out those young guys.
Oswalt’s not getting only 2 mil unless he’s signed in late August
Agreed. BUT anything can happen. its going to be June in 2weeks. He’ll get an itch and want to go to a contender. Atlanta is close to home. Slight chance 3M for half a season
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:12 pm
he has turned down way more than anything you are suggesting, and you think my comment about affording him is dumb, really?
MFin04
May 17th, 2012
3:13 pm
Nice lineup tonight, is tonight the night Brandon Beachy’s ERA blows up? Hope not. As long as the Braves can score enough runs to win, I’ll be good.
Must win game! (I know people love that term so there you go!)
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:13 pm
nolie @ 3:07 Agree…
@Jo Nicca Crazy was being sarcastic, something you don’t understand, you should know how to recommend stupid ideas
And to whoever thinks having Dusty Baker as manager is great, I don’t know what to say. If you think Fredi’s bad, Dusty is waaaaay worse.
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
CrαZy
May 17th, 2012
3:12 pm
Jo Nicca
Maybe you’re just too stupid to see sarcasm… My 3:06 was oozing sarcasm!! Idiot.
It is extremely hard to SEE sarcsm
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:15 pm
Ease, you pitch too? What level?
Jo Nicca Oswalt had an offer for 10 mil that he turned down, he’s gonna want more than 2 or 3 mil to play in atlanta for 3 months.
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:15 pm
yeah Ease, I thought you were around somewhere. go try out immediately
.remember all those 50s baseball movies where a guys showed up off the streets, got a job by trying out, and saved the season?
Obviously it can be done…
Jimmy
May 17th, 2012
3:15 pm
MFin04 – Let’s call it a “statement game”.
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:15 pm
and why in the world would we even want to?
Nolie, that was dumb
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:16 pm
It is extremely hard to SEE sarcsm
Then stop blogging. Problem solved
CrαZy
May 17th, 2012
3:17 pm
It is extremely hard to SEE sarcsm
You’re right, but that was as clear as they come and it went right over your head!! What is that noise EASE uses?? swooooosh?
ncscoots
May 17th, 2012
3:17 pm
remember all those 50s baseball movies where a guys showed up off the streets, got a job by trying out, and saved the season?
Evan Gattis was alive in the 50s????
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:17 pm
The Braves are not gonna give up on all their pitching and sign Oswalt. That is dumb
raleighbravefan
May 17th, 2012
3:18 pm
nolie – “aren’t there a few pitchers on the blog?” …….Not sure about that, but there are always PLENTY of managers and GMs…
Ease
May 17th, 2012
3:18 pm
nolie, if my arm wasn’t in two pieces held together by a titanium plate, I just might have done that.
cricket
May 17th, 2012
3:19 pm
2M to 3M in 8 minutes..he should get his 10M by the time the game starts
Hugo Z Hackenbush
May 17th, 2012
3:19 pm
Ted (GA)
What (if anything) are you hearing about Andrelton Simmons’ hitting so far this year?
Klaw
(2:17 PM)
Same as last year. All contact, not a patient approach, no power. I see a sure big league regular, not an impact guy.
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:20 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:13 pm
nolie @ 3:07 Agree…
@Jo Nicca Crazy was being sarcastic, something you don’t understand, you should know how to recommend stupid ideas
And what stupid ideas is that? Saying atlanta should sign oswalt. yeah thats stupid or wait suggesting 2-3M be a great deal on oswalt. yeah thats stupid too. You people are hilarious!!!! Who cares if hes turned down more money from someone else. OBVIOUSLY he didnt wanna play there!!
Sopheee
May 17th, 2012
3:21 pm
Just my opinion, but McCann’s pic isn’t very aesthetic, i mean he’s not a bad looking guy,but he’s not “cute” either. That’s why I use Pastornicky.
Pastor over Mac? No way.
Beachy is fugly.
Whaaaaaat? Get yo’ eyes checked, Fish.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
May 17th, 2012
3:21 pm
Garrett (California)
Speaking of ATL, Frediot apparently wants to keep his two best OBP guys (Chipper and Heyward) hitting 6th and 7th regularly. Between that and regularly pitching Durbin in close games, is it safe to assume that Fredi is actually a negative WAR manager?
Klaw
(2:24 PM)
I believe he is, yes.
Jimmy
May 17th, 2012
3:21 pm
cricket –
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:21 pm
at least yours is titanium, mine is so old its stainless, so no MRIs for me….
raleighbravefan
May 17th, 2012
3:22 pm
TOBFan – It was just George talking out of his azz with Fredihate, who said he would like Dusty. Yau just have to consider the source. As I said, that statement says it all about George and his baseball
(un)knowledge.
Ease
May 17th, 2012
3:22 pm
Whoosh
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:22 pm
You’re right, but that was as clear as they come
To you who wrote it and knew what it meant. To someone reading it and doesnt know who you are or SAW you be sarcastic… NO it wasnt
CrαZy
May 17th, 2012
3:22 pm
venting, sarcasm, BS with a tiny bit of logic that’s what you’ll find here!!
CrαZy
May 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
Whoosh
That’s it!!
NC Roseman
May 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
I think we should ask Derrick Lowe to pay part of the Oswalt salary…seeing how he did not earn hardly any of his last year, and now we are still paying him, to pitch good for the only team we ever beat for a ring…can you believe it. Ain’t that just like an ex Brave.
ncscoots
May 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
Geez louise, Minor has got to pick it up, if we’re gonna start getting some of that Oswalt/Garcia/Redmond/Livan action, LOL. Come on, kid, help me out a little here.
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
or wait suggesting 2-3M be a great deal on oswalt. yeah thats stupid too…Joe N
about as stupid as is possible since he already turned down more.
but wait he is gonna take less just to be on your team, right??
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
The Braves are not gonna give up on all their pitching and sign Oswalt. That is dumb
So is letting two starters have ERA’s over 7
Ease
May 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
Not had an MRI yet, but I have had to notify the airport security screeners about it…
bravesgrl4life
May 17th, 2012
3:24 pm
Oh, I’m feeling pervy enough crushing on Beachy at his age of 25. No way I’m commenting on Pastornicky. That might get me thrown in jail
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:24 pm
The Braves are not gonna give up on all their pitching and sign Oswalt. That is dumb
nolie 1 Jo Nicca 0
if my arm wasn’t in two pieces held together by a titanium plate, I just might have done that.
What’d you do? TJ?
nolie
May 17th, 2012
3:25 pm
‘nicky is legal, he only looks 16
Sopheee
May 17th, 2012
3:28 pm
Pastor’s little kid cute, not ohemgee cute (apologies to TheOnlyBravesFan since he stares at him all day).
Shaun
May 17th, 2012
3:28 pm
Garrett (California)
Speaking of ATL, Frediot apparently wants to keep his two best OBP guys (Chipper and Heyward) hitting 6th and 7th regularly. Between that and regularly pitching Durbin in close games, is it safe to assume that Fredi is actually a negative WAR manager?
Klaw
(2:24 PM)
I believe he is, yes.
I don’t know about this. Replacement level for managers is pretty low, at least when it comes to tactics, so I don’t know that Fredi is a negative.
ncscoots
May 17th, 2012
3:28 pm
Speaking of ATL, Frediot apparently wants to keep his two best OBP guys (Chipper and Heyward) hitting 6th and 7th regularly.
Except, of course, they actually aren’t the “two best OBP guys”
Between that and regularly pitching Durbin in close games
An odd definition of “regularly”, I guess. This guy should try to keep up.
Sopheee
May 17th, 2012
3:30 pm
Where’s cab? I know she has her own list.
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:30 pm
Pastor over Mac? No way
Pastor, come with me into the bunker, we’re under attack!!!
is it safe to assume that Fredi is actually a negative WAR manager?
Klaw
(2:24 PM)
I believe he is, yes.
Whatever…..
Oh, I’m feeling pervy enough crushing on Beachy at his age of 25. No way I’m commenting on Pastornicky. That might get me thrown in jail
LOL, he is legal… and handsome
(btw, i think me as a guy commenting on their looks is more pervy)
cricket
May 17th, 2012
3:32 pm
let bourn go, sign this guy for cheap -
http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/05/15/introducing-the-newest-member-of-the-stockton-ports-rickey-henderson/
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:32 pm
Pastor’s little kid cute, not ohemgee cute (apologies to TheOnlyBravesFan since he stares at him all day).
Nah, google chrome’s covers him up most of the time….
Gustopher
May 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
Great blog CR. Always nice to see you on the beat.
Matt Chernoff
May 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
Where’s cab? I know she has her own list.
what about sammie’s list? or hannah’s list?
Hugo Z Hackenbush
May 17th, 2012
3:34 pm
I thought it was funny that Law accepted the premise at face value. Oh well, he’s only one guy, can’t expect him to know what’s happening with a team when there are so many “prospects”, so little time…
RC
May 17th, 2012
3:35 pm
Between that and regularly pitching Durbin in close games
An odd definition of “regularly”, I guess. This guy should try to keep up.
He does do it more often than I’d like, but I wouldn’t necessarily call it “regularly” either. What bothers me more is that it seems he has O’Flaherty and Venters in a box that says “Do not open before 7th”, even if there’s a really important situation in the 5th or 6th inning (men on base, tied or up 1 run). He has used Durbin in a lot of those situations when a better reliever would have been more appropriate, although the moves have worked out for the most part.
monty
May 17th, 2012
3:35 pm
Back to a normal lineup , Beachy on the mound, all the planetary bodies are lining up for an easy Braves victory tonight. You heard it here 1st! Bank on it!
bravesgrl4life
May 17th, 2012
3:37 pm
Yeah, TheOnlyBravesFan, more pervy. And I know the Rev is legal, but an 18 year age difference is pretty creepy
15 (over Beachy) not so bad 
Besides, 40 is the new 20, right? So, I guess techically, that makes me younger than Pastornicky even
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 17th, 2012
3:37 pm
So is letting two starters have ERA’s over 7
technically it’s just 1, but i’d rather have them than Oswalt who was injured and struggled a little bit last year and hasn’t pitched any games yet and it’s almost june…. i don’t think he’d be his best.
monty
May 17th, 2012
3:39 pm
Durbin did come in the other night in a high leverage inning and managed to coax a fly ball that stopped just short of the track in CF from one of their weaker hitters if my memory serves me correctly. Not convinced yet that he can get through the meat of an order.
Southside Steve
May 17th, 2012
3:39 pm
18 year age difference is pretty creepy
Who says? I prefer younger women, in their mid 20’s. Yeah C’mon
CaptMudd
May 17th, 2012
3:39 pm
Can anyone…Nolie perhaps…Tell me anything about the blogger “Darth Obama?”
Murph
May 17th, 2012
3:39 pm
I don’t think Ward knows how to use question marks.
When I lived in Canada they used to always talk as if they were asking questions… took me a while to catch on.
So, we’re going down to Tim Hortons?
You are?
That’s what I said, we’re going down to Tim Hortons?
I dunno, are you?
That’s what I said?
Are you asking me or telling me?
Telling you?
Hockey is stupid.
ncscoots
May 17th, 2012
3:42 pm
He has used Durbin in a lot of those situations when a better reliever would have been more appropriate
Maybe so, RC, though my perception is that he goes to Medlen more than Durbin in the higher-leverage stuff. I get the sense that the higher the leverage, the shorter the stint for Durbin, if he gets called on in that situation at all.
I’m not saying that Fredo isn’t capable of making me a liar, by the way.
Jerry
May 17th, 2012
3:43 pm
Before I start, just let me reiterate that I am not now or have at any time been a supporter of either Wren or Fredi. But, some of you guys are going way overboard in blaming either for things that were not done or not being done. As I recall, there weren’t very many of us chomping at the bit to trade Prado and Jurrjens to get Adam Jones because most of us thought that was too steep a price for Jones. Now with Jurrjens having his issues, people are all over Wren for not making that trade. It comes down to not being able to satisfy some people no matter what.
As for Minor, we have all seen him really dominate until all of a sudden the wheels come off. He seems to have his best times the first time around the order. Sounds like he could really flourish in the bullpen, but I’m not gonna worry about it one way or another. Fredi said he is gonna continue to run him out there, so I’m gonna hope he turns that corner and starts doing well. Fredi did the same thing with Delgado and look at him now. I think Minor tends to give up when things don’t go well. That is what his facial expression is telling me. I wanna see him bear down when things go south.
MFin04
May 17th, 2012
3:43 pm
RC – Agreed. He said he would use Durbin in a 2-run game, but not a 1-run game the other day, and then he started using Durbin in tied games. I almost went (more) crazy.
I guess if he is in the bullpen you have to use him, but I’d rather it not be in a close game. One thing I will give the Braves credit for this year is that they have blown teams out. I mean how many blow outs did we have last year? It didn’t seem like very many. Amazing what scoring runs can do to the back of your bullpen.
cabravesfan
May 17th, 2012
3:43 pm
Sopheee-
Hi! I’m here.
Jimmy
May 17th, 2012
3:44 pm
Monty – you are second. I’ve already called ballgame for the Braves.
As I stated on the other blog, for whatever reason, the Braves are 5-8 in series openers and 18-7 in the other games.
For that reason, and some good ole Fish Bisch ownage, I call for a win tonight.
bravesgrl4life
May 17th, 2012
3:45 pm
Hi, cab
Shaun
May 17th, 2012
3:45 pm
ncscoots, I’m assuming the guy asking the question meant the players with the best on-base skills.
cabravesfan
May 17th, 2012
3:45 pm
18 year age difference is creepy?
cabravesfan
May 17th, 2012
3:45 pm
bravesgrl4life-
Hi
Sopheee
May 17th, 2012
3:46 pm
Hi cab. We were debating Mac vs. Pastor and figured you had an opinion as well.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 17th, 2012
3:46 pm
Sopheeee Pastor over Mac? No way.
I gotta agree with you there…
But yeah, Rev’s got a certain cuteness about him…
Venice Jim
May 17th, 2012
3:47 pm
In Roy Oswalt’s last 15 games last year, he averaged less than 6 IP per game, 10 hits per 9 IP, opponents BA .290, ERA 4.25…
cabravesfan
May 17th, 2012
3:47 pm
Sopheee-
Why is that even a debate? Seems obvious to me
monty
May 17th, 2012
3:47 pm
If Ted Williams was still alive, his bat would have a Gattis signature on it.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 17th, 2012
3:48 pm
cabravesfan 18 year age difference is creepy?
Maybe…but anybody playing baseball at 18-years-younger-than-me has gotta be friggin’ adorable!…
ncscoots
May 17th, 2012
3:48 pm
I’m assuming the guy asking the question meant the players with the best on-base skills.
And I’m assuming the guy asking the question was a nimrod.
Jo Nicca
May 17th, 2012
3:50 pm
I guess if he is in the bullpen you have to use him, but I’d rather it not be in a close game. One thing I will give the Braves credit for this year is that they have blown teams out. I mean how many blow outs did we have last year? It didn’t seem like very many. Amazing what scoring runs can do to the back of your bullpen.
True that. Kimbrel getting alot more rest. O’ not doing to well early on which raises my thoughts of using medlen for that role. Vent doing ok so far. Guess i cant expect the same #’s as last year
monty
May 17th, 2012
3:50 pm
Jimmy
Then I second that emotion.
Lew
May 17th, 2012
3:51 pm
Any baseball player (except for Jamie Moyer) who is eighteen years younger than me is retired by now.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
May 17th, 2012
3:52 pm
Fredo? Was that a freudian slip? As in…”I can handle things! I’m smart! Not like everybody says… like dumb… I’m smart and I want respect!”
bravesgrl4life
May 17th, 2012
3:52 pm
I happen to think, really, that this is the best looking team (from a lady’s point of view) that we’ve fielded in years. Beachy, Eric O, Uggla, Mac, Rev, and while I am obviously not his biggest fan, Chad Durbin is kinda cute. And oh, Chipper looked gooood in that Stetson he got from Houston
cabravesfan
May 17th, 2012
3:52 pm
bravesgrl4life-
AHEM…you forgot Jonny & Huddy
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
May 17th, 2012
3:53 pm
On the JJ bashers – ya’ll leave him alone. Those Bisons are tough. They’re Bisons and that has to mean they’re tough with a name like that.
And hey, it’s not like he’s the first Brave pitcher to get hammered by Mets minor leaguers.
Jerry
May 17th, 2012
3:53 pm
And let me say this about this team. I think I have misjudged this team. Originally, I said 84 wins was the most the Braves could be expected to get in 2012. Don’t know what has changed with me, but I’m having a much better time watching these guys than I thought I would. Bourn, Prado, and Freeman are doing well. McCann is starting to come around and Uggla is about ready to take off. Heyward is not grounding out to second as much as he used to, so I have hopes for him. I have grown to like him very much in right field. I wish Chipper would play a little more, but it is what it is. As for the pitching staff, it’ll come around. Hell, I think most of it already is. The bullpen has had some bad moments, but that’ll be our strength again real soon.