2:08 pm May 16, 2012, by Carroll Rogers
May 16th, 20128:31 pm
fourth game in a row where his ERA will be about 10 IIRC
Heyward will be out for weeks now.
Minor, As In Minor League
That will be Minor’s last start for a while.
Somebody finally woke up Fredi.
Yikes. It is almost amazing how bad Minor is.
Ric Flair to Right
This team is in a need of an ACE in the worst way…This is a pretty good ballclub, but not really a serious WS player without a top tier number 1
Lil' Barry Bailout
One of the Braves’ “big arms” heads for the showers after his third straight whuppin’
Geez Fredi, ain’t it a little late? Hope heywards okay,
dunno if bourn catches that, but either way, Minor just looks horrible now.
Let him rott out there, at least until the 150th pitch…
Fredi Gonzalez is a moron. Why wait until Minor gives up 5 runs? Makes no sense.
May 16th, 20128:32 pm
Call up T-Rex
Just get rid of Minor or put him a relief role, one where you rarely see him. He’s terrible, terrible, terrible.
@Disgusted, JJ got AAA hitters out in spring training too, doesn’t mean squat. He needs to perform at the ML level. As for his past performance, in reality, he hasn’t done much – had one good season, one good half season (last year) and not much else. Personally, I think his results have been overrated and the product of a lot of luck. He’s not a dominant pitcher by any means.
@JNick–JJ had a pretty good yr in 2008, a good one in 09 and a good half of one last yr.
I never said he was a dominant pitcher but when healthy, he is a servicable middle of the rotation pitcher which is better than what Minor is–In the end, its the results that matter.
Minor produces zilch in results & I would love to see how a more intense baseball media market like Boston would react to him after his big mouth in the Spring.
I honestly see Minor as another Jo Jo. Some stuff is there but he stinks. Not good enough for MLB.
Send in the clowns.
Minor blows harder than Jenna Jameson.
Yeah, it’s a shame they don’t have a guy like Tim Hudson to anchor the rotation…
He pitched yesterday………..
42 stolen bases for marlins now leads the league. Starting to see why.
You gotta think either Medlin or Teheran will take “mr pollished” spot now
That could be Minor’s last start here for awhile, then again, as a polished left hander, he has a chance to stay.
I wasn’t sure either way, nolie, a few weeks back when you were so adamant about minor, but you tend to know your stuff….
He has been awful last 3 times out. No clue what’s wrong other than fat, fat pitches that even hack wilson could drill.
May 16th, 20128:33 pm
I just don’t see why the Braves are so high on Minor???? He blazed it in Spring Training, and apparently blazes it in the minors, but in the majors, he is below average
“Yeah, it’s a shame they don’t have a guy like Tim Hudson to anchor the rotation…”
Hudson’s more of a solid No. 2 at this point in his career, IMO.
May 16th, 20128:34 pm
Huddy is a #1. I thought Hanson was going to be for years to come, but no more. Our pitchers have actually regressed instead of getting better, excluding Beachy. I am talking our young starters…
The B lineup is not coming back from this.
DS1…im a huge hudson fan, just not sure you throw him against another true number 1 he can stack up at age 36…your right though, he is the closet thing we got
All between the ears for Minor, he has the stuff to be much better than this, mentally though, doesn’t seem to be putting it together right now.
Where does this stuff come from?
May 16th, 20128:35 pm
I don’t blame Fredi for this, in the end he had to see if Minor could pulll out a qualify start when he did not have his best stuff and it was Minor who was not good enough.
You have to get innings from your SP, this is not on Fredi.
Minor is not mentally tough he is a quitter and not as good as he thinks he is. I cannot stand the bumb.
As mad as I am on Johnny Venters, at least he tries and I hope he straightens out of his rut. I think he can.
Minor is a zilch.
Wow..being embarressed tonight fellows
I lived Glavine’s analysis: Minor turns into a headcase when he had runners on base.
Has Ross caught Minor, might want to give him a chance to catch him in a game to see if it helps.
Dang, forgot about that other Braves “big arm”…Jurrjens.
Sure, it’s just one game, but how is Wren’s “big arm” and “stand pat offense” approach looking tonight?
Seriously? So what does one have to do to be considered a #1??
Good ‘ol fashioned butt kicking tonight. Oh well, they happen to everyone now and again.
The braves need their regular staring lineup. Probably not a good idea to face a new and surging franchise with an unproven lineup for the first time.
last 4 times out.
actually I’ve always thought he will be a #3, not predicting him as a failure but right now he is surprising my by being less than I thought he would be.
May 16th, 20128:36 pm
oh well we will try and win tomorrow. A split wont be bad.
Minor should not start next game. either Medlen or Hernendez.
I would like to see what Medlen can do
Did Chipper finally retire?
Minor appears to still have issues between the ears.
Minor…19 runs in last 14 innings…wheres Buddy Carlyle?!
Minor is just lifeless…pitching, sitting, walking, living, you name it.
Chipper should administer a butt whuppin…
May 16th, 20128:37 pm
Down 6 to 1, this ain’t the reds pen, braves have em just where they want them.
“I just don’t see why the Braves are so high on Minor???? He blazed it in Spring Training, and apparently blazes it in the minors, but in the majors, he is below average”
Good point Turtsnap–Did the Braves not learn their lesson with Jo Jo?
This is almost a non hit recording of Jo Jo Reyes—Jo Jo and Minor are to pitching as to what Rebecca Black is to pop music.
Huddy is still a very good pitcher….he’s a number one on most teams in this league and certainly a number one on this team who happens to be doing very well.
Just not tonight…
May 16th, 20128:38 pm
Buddy! Buddy! Buddy!
We Want Carlyle!
Gotta love this inept offense. Can’t score runs and dessert are pitchers.
As bad as Minor is, I am still pretty hopeful that the Braves can still make a comeback.
“Sure, it’s just one game, but how is Wren’s “big arm” and “stand pat offense” approach looking tonight?”
I guess the near 200 runs they scored before this game don’t count for anything?
It’s hilarious so many of you are giving up already with all the big offensive nights and comeback wins the Braves have had this year.
May 16th, 20128:39 pm
This game is pretty much over right now… so..
You’d think Fredi would have some pride and do all he can to beat the team that fired him.
How many games are we going to just give away by starting Minor ? I’d much rather let Hernandez take his place till somebody else is ready.
I just don’t understand why the Braves are so high on Buddy Carlyle…I mean sure…dude pitched some in Japan…but geez, you know?
Joe in SoCal
Disgusted..not sure I agree on your Fredi assessment..That would mean Fredi would be thinking into the future..not sure why he even let him come out for this fifth inning.It was pretty clear already he didn’t have it..no need to leave him out there to put the ballclub even further behind the 8ball.
Line on Minor: 4 2/3 IP, six hits, six earned runs, three BBs, three Ks, one hit batter. 94 (40,54)
yeah I think part of it is his head, I saw him pitch 3 or 4 games in Vandy when a friend was scouting him for Detroit, he was pretty erratic and acted out on the mound when things went south. but no scouting report I ever remember seeing rates any of his pitches as much more than average to just above.He added a coupla mph to his FB but lost some command of it while doing so.
Bye Bye Mike Minor have fun in Gwinnett you overrated bum. Glad him and JJ are pitching on the same day that means JJ will be ready to take Minors spot in the rotation 5 days from now. Minor has always been overrated and has never consistently produced what was expected of him. JJ has pitched well in AAA and if he pitches well tonight I’d bet money we bring him up and send Minor back to where he belongs, AAA….
This world is nearly wholly composed of those who mentally cannot put it all together.
Minor might always be one of the many.
Maybe he’ll figure it out…
May 16th, 20128:40 pm
To the non-freakout/non-apocalyptic folks on the blog:
If you’re the Braves, what do you do about Minor? If you send him down, you just have to bring Jurrjens back up, right?
Please, somebody hurt that little squirt Reyes. Pleaaaaaaaaase
The inept offense that was one great defensive play from tying the game at 3 in the 4th?
Is Sean Gilmartin ready yet?
May 16th, 20128:41 pm
“JJ has pitched well in AAA and if he pitches well tonight I’d bet money we bring him up and send Minor back to where he belongs, AAA….”
Might want to check the box score there buddy.
JJ gave up 8 runs tonight. Might want to delete your above musing.
“Glad him and JJ are pitching on the same day that means JJ will be ready to take Minors spot in the rotation 5 days from now. ”
Nu uh, cause Buddy Carlyle…
The Braves are going to have to seriously re-up with Huddy once his deal is up which I think is this yr, I am not sure if there is an option yr.
We really need to pack in another 500,000 people in the stands to give LM a reason to spend more. Might not make a difference because of the TV deal, but going to the games will not hurt.
Even if you go to a few games, that is cool. Go to as many as U can afford.
I’ve never been one to get all hung up on the 1/2/3/4 starter stuff. Always thought if you had 4 pretty good starters, you’d do well. If you get a 5th guy with .500 stuff, that is gravy.
But I still like our rotation, even with Minor struggling as of late. I suspect he’ll maybe get 1 more start before a move is made.
Beachy has been peachy. Hanson, while being inconsistent and short of innings some outings, has pitched OK so far. And Delgado seems to be getting it together lately.
Good to see JJ working out the kinks in Gwinnett………….
yup, there are more who caint than who can phil
A catalyst for change in this rotation spot has to be Fredi—go down and get a live one to take this spot.
May 16th, 20128:42 pm
I’d love to have Jurrjens up here, guy is an Ace when on.
might see Teheran B4 we see JJ
And I’m still hopeful Minor wont be a Brave past the All Star break.
We should probably just fire FG tonight….
May 16th, 20128:43 pm
Wow, that was the quickest inning ever…
JJ just gave up 7 or 8 runs in AAA guys
Buerhle is only at 68 pitches…
May 16th, 20128:44 pm
JJ got lit up in Gwinnette tonight,just start livan or Meds…
Minor has been sooo bad in 4 straight starts that I wonder if he is feeling OK
May 16th, 20128:45 pm
Nats up 4-1 on the Pirates.
I’d rather bring him Teheran and let him pitch rather than Minor. Teheran put up better numbers as a 20 year old in AAA than minor did as a 23 year old. Teheran is a much better pitcher and gives the Braves a better chance to win right now plus the more experience he gets now the faster he progresses into that future ACE and stud for the Braves. With Hanson, Teheran, Delgado, Hudson (a few more years) we will have one helluva staff. I said trade Minor while teams still view him as a prospect and JJ because we won’t resign him anyways and get a solid backend rotation starter.
Beachy: Love him. Best we have.
Huddy: Love him. Hope that arm doesn’t blow up.
Hanson: Arm most certainly will blow up before year end.
Delgado: Solid first time through the National League. Second time through–who knows.
Jurrjens: 50-50 he’s done.
Minor: Not ready for the majors.
May 16th, 20128:47 pm
WOW. I should have stayed at church.
Hell, stretch out Martinez before giving Minor another start.
Joe in So Cal–I am not saying that you are wrong, because when it comes to handling pitchers, you never know how and who the guys in the pen are feeling, etc., but if I were a MLB manager I would always try to get at least 5 out of my SP.
The decision did not turn out okay, but you tell me that Minor could not get one more out?
Considering what a big mouth that Minor was I do put this on him, and Minor is not as good as he thought he was.
I am a Fredi fan anyway, think he is a solid baseball man and overall runs a solid clubhouse and operation, I really did not blame Septemer on Fredi, I put it on the players for not being good enough.
Test Minor for mono….
Seriously. He looks like a test case for it with his demeanor.
May 16th, 20128:48 pm
“To the non-freakout/non-apocalyptic folks on the blog:
If you’re the Braves, what do you do about Minor? If you send him down, you just have to bring Jurrjens back up, right?”
I’d do the same to Minor as the Braves did to Kawakami. Throw him into the depths of the bullpen, to never resurface to the mound again. I’d either bring Medlen back to the starting rotation or Livan.
Juan has been watching Hoss make that barehand play……
Time to find something else to do. Not saying the Braves won’t come back, but if they do, I’ll just have to read about it later.
Well scratch my JJ idea then I didn’t know he got lit up tonight. He had been pitching well in Gwinnett before tonight but clearly he’s still struggling. My Teheran theory still applies though. And for everybody that wants to complain about his spring training results don’t forget Delgado was just as bad in spring training as Teheran was and he’s been pitching his ass off lately. Bring up Teheran, he gives us a better chance to win than Minor and Livan and that way we won’t have to take Medlen out of the bullpen and overwork the big 3 like last year.
Nice play by the fat guy at third
Minor has given up 27 earned runs in 20 2/3 innings over past four starts (11.95 ERA)
J heys better
May 16th, 20128:53 pm
I just checked tehran’s starts he went past the 5th inning once. ERA is good but needs to go deeper in games
Is anyone a little concerned about the number of starters who completely blow up in Atlanta? Kyle Davies, Jo-Jo Reyes, Kenshin Kawakami, Derek Lowe, Jair Jurrjens and Mike Minor were all highly regarded arms before coming to Atlanta, and they all lost it while wearing Braves uniforms. To be fair, Davies and Reyes did nothing after they left.
I guess I shouldn’t complain since all told our pitching has been good over the last few years. It’s just a bit of a disturbing trend.
Now looks guys, don’t wake me up again.
We’ll keep a seat warm for you, Jerry.
May 16th, 20128:54 pm
Jerry, I wouldn’t turn them down just yet!
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