If Minor doesn’t get it together the rest of this game, I say get him out of there. Maybe send him to Gwinnett to work on his pitches/control-or to the bullpen. Medlen should be moved into the rotation.
I’d rather Livan start. Why keep running Minor out there when there is apparently something wrong with the kid..mentally or something. Don’t think it’s fair to him really because he lacks confidence at the moment.
@Disgusted, JJ got AAA hitters out in spring training too, doesn’t mean squat. He needs to perform at the ML level. As for his past performance, in reality, he hasn’t done much – had one good season, one good half season (last year) and not much else. Personally, I think his results have been overrated and the product of a lot of luck. He’s not a dominant pitcher by any means.
Used to be… a guy like Glavine would give up two or three in the first and everyone would be…ok we’re good..we got thru the first now its our game…but with Minor, he gives up two or three and its…Ballgame!! Floodgates open in 3.2.1.
I don’t think that I’d wanna see Minor sent back down and Jurrjens recalled. That would be trading shyt for more shyt. Put Minor in the bullpen and either have Medlen start or let Livan do it. I don’t know how he’s doing it, but Livan is getting people out.
@nolie, actually, they don’t – scroll down and look at Tim Hudson. He gets stronger as the game goes on – because he knows how to make adjustments and pitch….
STANTON JUST MADE THE PLAY OF THE YEAR
WHAT A CATCH. A GAME SAVING. A GAME CLINCHING CATCH.
BRAVES WON’T RECOVER FROM THAT AMAZING CATCH BY MIKE STANTON
Wonder if the Braves executives wish they had traded JJ and or Minor in the offseason when they had a chance to get a decent return and when the value of these two were higher? I mean one of the pitchers is in triple A and the other has a 6+ era in the Majors this year.
This rotation is a house of cards. Minor is a AA/AAA pitcher. J.J. is already done. Delgado is inconsistent. Hanson’s shoulder will not make it through July. And then there is the bullpen. Venters has lost it. Durbin? Are you kidding me? The Atlanta Braves will be lucky to finish ahead of the Mets.
Wonder if the Braves executives wish they had traded JJ and or Minor in the offseasonI mwhen they had a chance to get a decent return and when the value of these two were higher? I mean one of the pitchers is in triple A and the other has a 6+ era in the Majors this year.
Yes, i wonder this as well…. I mean Beltran for this? He’d suck for the Mets too.
Or add him for Pence, that’d been pretty valuable… however, Minor has to recover at some point, this would be his first full season.
Put it in the loss column and move on. This guy can’t pitch worth a damn. Even if he keeps them right there and pitches slightly better from now on.. I believe the Braves would be better off by trading this guy.
That catch was a dagger in our collective hearts. We’re not winning this game. We’re not the phillies…..or the yankees. – Mixxo
You’re right — Braves aren’t the Phillies, which is a good thing. Otherwise the Braves wouldn’t have much chance at all of coming back tonight. The Phillies are in last place and have scored 54 fewer runs than the Braves this season.
Too bad the Reds didn’t pull the trigger on the supposed deal for JJ…rumors were that it was somewhat close if my poor memory serves me correctly. He is no good to us now either way.
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J-Man
May 16th, 2012
8:12 pm
I think Minor would be a better spot reliever
nolie
May 16th, 2012
8:12 pm
JNick, they do that to every starter, theyare always much better the first 45 than the rest of the way. It ain’t just Minor
JasonInFL
May 16th, 2012
8:12 pm
Buehrle with 44 pitches so far. This approach looks like last year’s Braves…
Farnsworthy
May 16th, 2012
8:12 pm
If Minor doesn’t get it together the rest of this game, I say get him out of there. Maybe send him to Gwinnett to work on his pitches/control-or to the bullpen. Medlen should be moved into the rotation.
veer
May 16th, 2012
8:12 pm
Walk Mac and face Diaz. Thats what Marlins should do
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:12 pm
Uggla with an infield singel
Disgusted
May 16th, 2012
8:13 pm
What is sad is that they will keep a bum like Minor around just to save money, that is the way it is.
kevkat
May 16th, 2012
8:13 pm
I’d rather Livan start. Why keep running Minor out there when there is apparently something wrong with the kid..mentally or something. Don’t think it’s fair to him really because he lacks confidence at the moment.
JNick
May 16th, 2012
8:13 pm
@Disgusted, JJ got AAA hitters out in spring training too, doesn’t mean squat. He needs to perform at the ML level. As for his past performance, in reality, he hasn’t done much – had one good season, one good half season (last year) and not much else. Personally, I think his results have been overrated and the product of a lot of luck. He’s not a dominant pitcher by any means.
Joe in SoCal
May 16th, 2012
8:14 pm
Used to be… a guy like Glavine would give up two or three in the first and everyone would be…ok we’re good..we got thru the first now its our game…but with Minor, he gives up two or three and its…Ballgame!! Floodgates open in 3.2.1.
LAG
May 16th, 2012
8:14 pm
FF would have come up with that short hop that Sanchez didn’t.
Even though they say FF is a mediocre fielder and all.
J-Man
May 16th, 2012
8:14 pm
Lets get Julio up here
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:14 pm
Joe west looking fit and trim as always….
One of the last of Skip’s favorite fat umpire targets.
nolie
May 16th, 2012
8:14 pm
c’mon peeps, just a few games ago y’all were telling me how wrong I’ve been all along about Minor and that he was an ace in waiting. Stand By Your Man
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:15 pm
McCANN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sopheee
May 16th, 2012
8:15 pm
Go ahead Mac.
kevkat
May 16th, 2012
8:15 pm
J-Man
May 16th, 2012
8:14 pm
Lets get Julio up here
I defintely wouldn’t mind giving him a shot again.
LAG
May 16th, 2012
8:15 pm
Good time to pull one there.
CaptMudd
May 16th, 2012
8:15 pm
Let’s go…let these guys know we won’t quit tonight cause we have some grit for sure.
J-Man
May 16th, 2012
8:15 pm
Its just that Minor gets figured out by the 4th inning every game……Innings 1-3 he is dominant. He just doesnt make adjustments
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 16th, 2012
8:15 pm
Nice hit!
Jerry
May 16th, 2012
8:15 pm
I don’t think that I’d wanna see Minor sent back down and Jurrjens recalled. That would be trading shyt for more shyt. Put Minor in the bullpen and either have Medlen start or let Livan do it. I don’t know how he’s doing it, but Livan is getting people out.
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:16 pm
Mac defeats the shift!
What? Oh, no shift that time.
Nice knock.
JNick
May 16th, 2012
8:16 pm
@nolie, actually, they don’t – scroll down and look at Tim Hudson. He gets stronger as the game goes on – because he knows how to make adjustments and pitch….
http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/4084/tim-hudson
JC Brave
May 16th, 2012
8:16 pm
The Braves have something cooking here.. shame Diaz is at the plate..
J-Man
May 16th, 2012
8:17 pm
Come on we can make this the Julio town with Julio Jones and Julio Teheran
Darth Obama
May 16th, 2012
8:17 pm
Capt Mudd,
Ok. Since you mentioned Satan I irroneousely thought you were free. I’ll go to Waffle House as you command.
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:17 pm
Watch that fat man run. (joking about the fat part)
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 16th, 2012
8:17 pm
Oh yeah—BMac too fast for the DP…
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:17 pm
nolie
May 16th, 2012
8:14 pm
c’mon peeps, just a few games ago y’all were telling me how wrong I’ve been all along about Minor and that he was an ace in waiting. Stand By Your Man
********
he speaks the truth.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
May 16th, 2012
8:17 pm
damn!!!
Sopheee
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
Hotdammit, thievery at it its finest.
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
What a catch by stanton…. nice try Wayward, er Heyward
J-Man
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
Damn Stanton just cost us 2 runs
Mixxo
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
The fish want this.
Jerry
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
For all the talk of Diaz raking against the Marlins, he sures does look like he doesn’t have a clue. I think he’s just living on his past exploits.
Brava
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
Damn you, Giancarlo!!
LAG
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
Are you kidding, Giancarlo “Mike” Stanton?
Bat Masterson
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
I’ll be damned
CaptMudd
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
Just a great defensive play…what can you do on that one!
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:18 pm
If wayward could hit, that would’ve tied the game….sigh
nolie
May 16th, 2012
8:19 pm
almost all of them do in fact. nothing is ever 100% in baseball, but the majority get worse not better
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:19 pm
i’ll be around folks, eating dinner… go braves
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:19 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:17 pm
Watch that fat man run. (joking about the fat part)
*******
Not really.
veer
May 16th, 2012
8:19 pm
STANTON JUST MADE THE PLAY OF THE YEAR
WHAT A CATCH. A GAME SAVING. A GAME CLINCHING CATCH.
BRAVES WON’T RECOVER FROM THAT AMAZING CATCH BY MIKE STANTON
B_F 52
May 16th, 2012
8:20 pm
j hey almost dude
Joe in SoCal
May 16th, 2012
8:20 pm
Third time thru…are they gonna bring Mikey out again?
J-Man
May 16th, 2012
8:20 pm
Nolie there aint no Tammy Wynettes here lol
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:20 pm
After being robbed like that, it just might be bad luck…. anyone wanna call ballgame?
(sarcasm)
kevkat
May 16th, 2012
8:21 pm
ho-hum
JC Brave
May 16th, 2012
8:21 pm
What? Did he throw his glove in the air, and the glove caught the ball all by itself?
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:21 pm
oh gawd, come on Minor… clean innings please… getting drilled, get Livan ready
Mixxo
May 16th, 2012
8:21 pm
That catch was a dagger in our collective hearts. We’re not winning this game. We’re not the phillies…..or the yankees.
ncbravesfan90
May 16th, 2012
8:21 pm
DOB,
Wonder if the Braves executives wish they had traded JJ and or Minor in the offseason when they had a chance to get a decent return and when the value of these two were higher? I mean one of the pitchers is in triple A and the other has a 6+ era in the Majors this year.
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:21 pm
Just give reyes second and be done with it…
Jerry
May 16th, 2012
8:22 pm
Sending Minor back out to pitch in another inning is like saying, “kick me while I’m down”. Expect more runs to score.
veer
May 16th, 2012
8:22 pm
Livan should be pitching.
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:22 pm
despite minor’s troubles, might be better than JJ right now
Jurrjens has allowed 8 hits and 8 runs (7 earned) through 3 innings tonight for Triple-A Gwinnett
Joe in SoCal
May 16th, 2012
8:22 pm
yank’em…please..yank’em before is 6 nothin….c’mon Fredi..be proactive for once..
CaptMudd
May 16th, 2012
8:23 pm
I erroneously trust people will understand a request to go ‘fly a kite!” Have a great one Big Darth Obama!!!
Nerdville
May 16th, 2012
8:23 pm
This rotation is a house of cards. Minor is a AA/AAA pitcher. J.J. is already done. Delgado is inconsistent. Hanson’s shoulder will not make it through July. And then there is the bullpen. Venters has lost it. Durbin? Are you kidding me? The Atlanta Braves will be lucky to finish ahead of the Mets.
veer
May 16th, 2012
8:23 pm
WHAT??? JURRJENS allowed 8 runs tonight? Serious?
nolie
May 16th, 2012
8:23 pm
I think he’s just living on his past exploits…Jerry
yeah, his 1200OS against lefties b4 the game was really just a mirage I guess
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:23 pm
Or third…why not.
Bring in anyone, someone, durbin even….
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:24 pm
DOB,
Wonder if the Braves executives wish they had traded JJ and or Minor in the offseasonI mwhen they had a chance to get a decent return and when the value of these two were higher? I mean one of the pitchers is in triple A and the other has a 6+ era in the Majors this year.
Yes, i wonder this as well…. I mean Beltran for this? He’d suck for the Mets too.
Or add him for Pence, that’d been pretty valuable… however, Minor has to recover at some point, this would be his first full season.
Carroll Rogers
May 16th, 2012
8:24 pm
Jurrjens has given up 8 runs (7 earned) on nine hits, including two HRs, through four innings tonight for Gwinnett
Joe in SoCal
May 16th, 2012
8:24 pm
C’mon…why?..why is he still out there?
JC Brave
May 16th, 2012
8:24 pm
Put it in the loss column and move on. This guy can’t pitch worth a damn. Even if he keeps them right there and pitches slightly better from now on.. I believe the Braves would be better off by trading this guy.
Go get them tomorrow.. maybe..
nolie
May 16th, 2012
8:25 pm
they would have gotten no return on JJ, he was considered a major health question
njbraves
May 16th, 2012
8:25 pm
Call up Teheran…give the kid a shot.
David O'Brien
May 16th, 2012
8:26 pm
That catch was a dagger in our collective hearts. We’re not winning this game. We’re not the phillies…..or the yankees. – Mixxo
You’re right — Braves aren’t the Phillies, which is a good thing. Otherwise the Braves wouldn’t have much chance at all of coming back tonight. The Phillies are in last place and have scored 54 fewer runs than the Braves this season.
JC Brave
May 16th, 2012
8:26 pm
Jurrjens has given up 8 runs (7 earned) on nine hits, including two HRs, through four innings tonight for Gwinnett
More great news!
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:26 pm
Sounds like JJ is ready….
For Mississippi. Too bad, actually.
nolie
May 16th, 2012
8:26 pm
got Ramirez, thats good anyway
Joe in SoCal
May 16th, 2012
8:27 pm
Fredi is really playin with fire…some serious huevos leavin him in there.
Jerry
May 16th, 2012
8:27 pm
If the Braves were to come back and win this catastrophe that Minor has made, it would be a minor miracle.
DS1
May 16th, 2012
8:27 pm
Damn nolie, I leave to pick up sandwich, and you let THIS happen?
Ric Flair to Right
May 16th, 2012
8:27 pm
Braves pitching depth….Not really a bonafide ace, but a bunch of middle of the rotation 2-3’s
Hudson
Hanson
Beachey
Delgado
Minor
Jurjeens
Teheran
Vicaninio
Medlen
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:28 pm
McCann shouldn’t have thrown there….
kevkat
May 16th, 2012
8:28 pm
simply pathetic…
LAG
May 16th, 2012
8:28 pm
Haven’t seen that play work like that since I played rec-league ball…
Lil' Barry Bailout
May 16th, 2012
8:28 pm
McCann, you idiot.
Brava
May 16th, 2012
8:28 pm
Why is Fredi leaving him in?
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:28 pm
Maybe i’m wrong in saying this…maybe not.
But that was not one of Mac’s brighter moves there with reyes at third and the obviousness of what was up.
JC Brave
May 16th, 2012
8:28 pm
Hahahaha!
Ok, that’s just laughable!
nolie
May 16th, 2012
8:28 pm
that is sad
Rick
May 16th, 2012
8:29 pm
“If the Braves were to come back and win this catastrophe that Minor has made, it would be a minor miracle.”
Then won his last two starts and he gave up more runs in both of those.
Lil' Barry Bailout
May 16th, 2012
8:29 pm
Big Bri forgot who was on third. Or forgot anybody was on third.
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:29 pm
they would have gotten no return on JJ, he was considered a major health question
Okay, but Minor would’ve gotten a good return.
DS1
May 16th, 2012
8:29 pm
Now I have to adjust my prediction to 9-4.
Felix
May 16th, 2012
8:29 pm
Offense better score 16 because with Minor out there the Fish will score 15.
JasonInFL
May 16th, 2012
8:29 pm
Too bad the Reds didn’t pull the trigger on the supposed deal for JJ…rumors were that it was somewhat close if my poor memory serves me correctly. He is no good to us now either way.
Joe in SoCal
May 16th, 2012
8:30 pm
sound of the other shoe falling…
phil
May 16th, 2012
8:30 pm
No sense in burning up the pen completely tonight….
Ya kinda get the sense we’re done. Hopefully not, but….
njbraves
May 16th, 2012
8:30 pm
Why is he still in the game??
ncbravesfan90
May 16th, 2012
8:30 pm
In all seriousness, Livan Hernandez is the best option for the 5th starter at this point. Just saying
ncbravesfan90
May 16th, 2012
8:30 pm
In all seriousness, Livan Hernandez is the best option for the 5th starter at this point. Just saying
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 16th, 2012
8:30 pm
Bourn wouldn’t have fallen down
Brava
May 16th, 2012
8:30 pm
This is absurd.
Trey
May 16th, 2012
8:30 pm
Mike Minor really needs to get his crap together.