2:45 am May 13, 2012, by Carroll Rogers
May 13th, 20127:35 pm
Well, the Braves have a very young rotation. I think it wouldn’t hurt to have another veteran arm in the rotation at some point this season. It all depends on what kind of shape Oswalt is in. It would all start with a throwing session with scouts and Braves’ brass in attendance. You have to see how he looks. Then, it comes down to a contract. Does Oswalt want a guaranteed major league contract? Probably so.
Want him or not, not likely there is enough money to make it happen…
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
May 13th, 20127:37 pm
Our Bravos are a major league best 22-9 since their 0-4 start, which is saying something loud and clear.
VJ – Exactly my point! We need a veteran.
May 13th, 20127:38 pm
We don’t need Oswalt.
May 13th, 20127:40 pm
Coach – We may differ, but we do need some one. If the Braves want to win one for Chipper?
May 13th, 20127:41 pm
VJ, you are probably right, but the Braves may have budgeted a little bit for a mid-season acquisition.
May 13th, 20127:42 pm
If Oswald is so good at this point, why isn’t he workin’ for one of the number of teams that need pitching?
May 13th, 20127:43 pm
Vlad Guerrero just signed for $1.3mil (an annual amount, he will only earn prorated portion of that).
the Braves do not have the money to pay for any veteran pitcher who would be worth having
May 13th, 20127:44 pm
The reason we are 22-9 since the 0-4 start is because of the offense and being 2nd in the Majors in runs scored. And the work Walker and Fletcher have done the the batters. But then again giving up 155 runs and being 22nd in the league does not make it sound as good and we need to win and have our starters go 7 innings so we dont flame out in September because everyone is gased out.
Braves might need another spot starter which is why we have so many starters already…
8. Medlen, if needed.
May 13th, 20127:46 pm
nolie – There might be enough money, no one really knows exactly how much the Braves have. It’s a possibility that the Braves have enough?
May 13th, 20127:47 pm
so, nolie, I guess the only potential acquistion, which would most likely would happen in July if it were to happen, would be a deal for a player in the last year of his contract, where the Braves acquire a player and get the trade partner to pick up salary as part of the deal, I guess.
The Braves have the money the question is if Liberty wants to spend it.
flight was delayed a few minutes so had time to suck down a starbucks and finish up the postgame quotes….thanks for your patience
May 13th, 20127:48 pm
Jon Morosi , Fox Sports @jonmorosi
#Braves haven’t been talked about as much as the #Nats lately, but their record is only a half-game behind Texas. Pretty good team.
May 13th, 2012
Very true and well said J-Man. However, I’m one of the few who firmly believes that we have yet to see the best from our starting pitching. So I honestly think they will improve and we get deeper into the season.
Great job, Carroll !!!
May 13th, 20127:51 pm
I’m just a little concerned, because of June. It will be a tough month. Not in Panic, but it wouldn’t hurt to explore the idea early.
May 13th, 20127:52 pm
Well IMo it would be more cost effecient to sign Oswalt than to trade for a pitcher in the last year of his contract. Lets use Cole Hamels as an example. Lets say we traded Julio Teheran and 2 other good minor leaguers for Hamels. Well we lose 2 or 3 good prospects for a half a year of Hamels and then if we dont resign him he lose him and have nothing to show for it. Ok now if we get Oswalt we can lose him the next season and keep our Prospects and possibly gain a type A or B draft pick in the MLB draft.
May 13th, 20127:54 pm
Reds with a shot in the 8th…..
a few mil maybe, but what starting pitcher worth a damn is that gonna pay for?
and I highly doubt they spend anything on another starter unless there is a major injury and prolly not then, Julio would likely be the nest move
May 13th, 20127:56 pm
All, June will be one heck of a month, and I’m pleased the Braves are playing well, and doing far more than I expected, but I would like the that extra player to give the Braves that push.
May 13th, 20127:57 pm
wow, fly ball to right with 2 outs, Bryce Harper had no idea where it was. landed 40 feet behind him, 6-5 game.
May 13th, 20127:58 pm
Lets say we traded Julio Teheran and 2 other good minor leaguers for Hamels.
there is absolutely no way that anything like that will happen, Wren is dedicated to his young starters
May 13th, 20127:59 pm
True on that nolie…..
May 13th, 20128:00 pm
the swelling from his battered face prolly blinded the damn fool
May 13th, 20128:03 pm
Love the pink cleats some of the players are wearing today.
May 13th, 20128:04 pm
Maybe Wren, might not have to trade his top prospects for a solid pitcher? Wren could put J.J. on the block if he pitches well in triple AAA. Just some ideas.
May 13th, 20128:05 pm
I dont think we are trading for Hamels I was using him as an example as to why it would be better on our farm system if we signed Oswalt instead of making a trade
May 13th, 20128:06 pm
I can tell ya’ll for damn sure that this rotation won’t have an ERA of 4.5 like they do right now. This is virtually the same pitching staff (minus Derek Lowe’s bloated 5 ERA ) which posted an ERA of 3.73 in 2011. Simply stated, they will get better, much better.
May 13th, 20128:09 pm
Coach – We will know in June. Good talking, and will talk later…… Have to mow lawn. All, it’s been cool really, and Peace my friends”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
May 13th, 20128:10 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
New power ranking for this week: 1. Texas. 2. Atlanta. 3. LAD. 4. Baltimore. 5. STL. 6. Wash. 7. TB. 8. Cleveland. 9. Detroit. 10. Yankees.
Yes, that’s 2. Atlanta.
May 13th, 20128:11 pm
Washington #7? Impossible, they are God’s gift to the NL….
#6, damn typos
May 13th, 20128:12 pm
Well that staff had a healthy Jurrjens and Tommy Hanson and Healthy Tim Hudson last year. This years staff have a lot inconstant starters and its getting to a point when the starter see that they have pitched 5 innings tend to fold it in.
well, as the rotation goes, the question mark is Minor. I think you know what Hanson and Hudson are going to do. Beachy looks like he’ll give consistently solid outings. Delagado is the 5th starter and you’d take a .500 season from that spot. I’m certainly not ready to given up on Minor, but if we get to July and are looking for a spot to improve the ball club for the stretch run, that might just be the spot.
May 13th, 20128:13 pm
No. 2 is just the first looser. We sTinK.
May 13th, 20128:14 pm
You have to remember, Buster’s from Vermont. We know only too well what those people know about baseball…
May 13th, 20128:17 pm
Leadoff single for the Reds in the 9th…
May 13th, 20128:19 pm
yes J-Man I understand that you are not, but the fact that there is no chance of it happening makes your comparison kinda weak IMO.
I am so sure they ain’t getting Oswald that I’d bet Bat’s lil’ black book of beach bunnies on it, and believe me, that’s a valuable piece of literature….
GO J-HEY! My man gets it done again, clutch style! Hope he gets that avg up a bit so he gets the all-star votes again.. I know i’m voting for him anyway, he’s the future of the club especially with McCann’s future unknown at this point.
May 13th, 20128:20 pm
Minor seems to be a 4 inning pitcher as to where he is pure filthy in the 1st 4 innings but then he gets lit up aroung inning 5.
May 13th, 20128:23 pm
DOB thanks for putting you know who in his place. He is the ONLY one on this blog that doesnt know what a fool he is. Made my day. Thanks.
I never said we were gonna get Owalt……not Oswald. But I mentioned that he would be a great fit for what he could do.
May 13th, 20128:24 pm
Chuck James redux?
May 13th, 20128:25 pm
2 out, 2 on…
May 13th, 20128:26 pm
ok J-man, could you not tell from the reference to Bat’s black book of beach bunnies that I was trying to keep it light?
May 13th, 20128:28 pm
3-2, 2 outs, Votto on deck
May 13th, 20128:29 pm
The Reds load the bases for Votto…
Ball 4, Votto up, bases juiced, 2 outs
Well Nolie that one is over my head but im 28 so give me a reference and ill google it.
May 13th, 20128:30 pm
Rodriguez really struggling – 1-1 count…
May 13th, 20128:31 pm
Nearly a wild pitch – the catcher doing a great job as Rodriguez keeps bouncing balls up there…
its just part on the blog. Bat lives in Fla and sometimes chases beach bunnies. guess you’ve missed the kidding about it. anyway, I don’t think they are gonna add a starter, but who knows for sure?
May 13th, 20128:32 pm
BRAVES IN FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
VOTTO GRAND SLAM!!!
Welcome to 1st place, Braves.
Joey Votto loves the Braves
Handel’s Messiah and fireworks?????
May 13th, 20128:33 pm
I thought the gNats had run away and hid so high nobody in the NL could Ever catch ‘em?
With a little luck the Reds will be tired out and over-celebrated when they arrive tomorrow…
May 13th, 20128:34 pm
And hopefully 3 HRs for Votto today will satisfy him for the week…
May 13th, 20128:35 pm
Oh ok well usually im too much of a narcissist to pay attention to what some guy claims to have. Also if a guy has that much beach trim then why is he on a Braves blog……Im sorry if I had it like that I would be rubbing lotion on some college chicks but hey thats just me.
Reds are crappy so like against Chicago we will prolly lose most or all those games VJ
May 13th, 20128:37 pm
In fact I am considering calling SERIES!!!. BUt that is not yet official yet, just a test run
May 13th, 20128:38 pm
Scott Diamond with his second straight start of 7 shutout innings for the Twins today.
May 13th, 20128:44 pm
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Joey Votto went into today’s game with an OPS of about 1.400 with runners in scoring position. That number went up. http://t.co/lyuG9Lb3
Pitching around him might be in order.
May 13th, 20128:49 pm
Votto is a beast. Best FBman in the NL now by far
May 13th, 20128:52 pm
Forgot that Votto’s contract goes through 2024.
May 13th, 20128:54 pm
Nice sweep, yup nolie VOTTO real good, but still please vote for FREDDY.
yeah, he’s great, but they gave him too much, likely a lot too much
May 13th, 20128:56 pm
yep, to lock him up through Age 40 is nutso. I guess they have a huge and expensive insurance policy on him.
May 13th, 20128:57 pm
Braves’ bullpen ERA is middle of the pack, but they are 9-1 and they are tied for the MLB lead in saves.
May 13th, 20128:59 pm
DOB@7:15 – you did not argue when Hanson was listed as a #4-5 starter. Do you consider Hanson a #4-5 starter at this point? Not a #2-3? He obviously has not reached ace territory or a surefire #1 starter for a team but I did not think he had sunk to a #4-5.
Not arguing just trying to learn about how Hanson is viewed by professionals.
May 13th, 20129:06 pm
oh go ahead and argue brian, DOB is used to it…
May 13th, 20129:08 pm
gotta have an effective pen now days, but ERA is not necessarily the best way to judge since they pitch so few innings that one real bad outing can really balloon it up
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 13th, 20129:11 pm
Sweet crud—did you say Votto hit 3 HR today??…
May 13th, 20129:14 pm
but ERA is not necessarily the best way to judge since they pitch so few innings that one real bad outing can really balloon it up
Textbook example by Addison Reed of the White Sox today ERA of 0.00 till today. Today’s ERA was 162.00. Net ERA ~5.7+.
The Rangers must be the only one to use Beethoven’s 5th for ballpark entertainment music. If ever there was a positive to him turning deaf, this must be it.
Yep. Think he was jealous that Hamilton was getting all the press. But the last one was the only one that mattered
May 13th, 20129:15 pm
one of which was a walk off slam. hopefully he got it outta his system McFann
May 13th, 20129:17 pm
Going to the Ted tomorrow to watch these first place Braves take on the Reds! This is why we chop!
Brian, no I don’t view Hanson as a 4-5. Maybe a 4 on a terrific staff, but I see him as a middle-rotation guy on a good staff.
May 13th, 20129:19 pm
920 hitter at The Ted, pretty close to his regular OPS+
May 13th, 20129:21 pm
Jay Bruce always seems to hit well against us. I’ll be happy to just keep him quiet and pitch around Votto.
May 13th, 20129:23 pm
Bruce kills us in Cincy, actually under 600 in the Ted. Hope I didn’t just jinx us
May 13th, 20129:25 pm
Glad to see Jason coming through in key situations. He is gaining confidence and appears more relaxed at the plate—which is very good news for our prospects in 2012. Hanson looked great also!
May 13th, 20129:26 pm
nolie, Cincinnati only plays two games at the Ted and the Braves will have four at Great American. So Bruce will have twice as many opportunities to hit well against the Braves.
May 13th, 20129:27 pm
depressing news Moe
of course sample sizes are too small be have much reliability
I view Hanson healthy as a number 2 but so far this season he has pitched like a low 3 or 4 starter. But the fact that he cant make it past 5 or 6 innings does not make him any higher than that. Also besides Beachy no one has consistantly gone 7 innings thats what I was meaning to say earlier. But right now we have a log jam of 4-5 starters trying to occupy 3 spots. Hanson, Minor, Delgado, Jurrjens, Teheran, and Medlen are number 4 or 5 starters by their performances and how deep they can go into the game. It seems that once the 5th inning starts the starters lose focus or the hitters figure them out. Now being a vetern pitcher they will make the adjustments along with the hitters to stay 1 step ahead. And thats why a Oswalt would benefit the Braves.
I hope the people of Atlanta show up in large numbers to welcome the Braves back and cheer them on.
May 13th, 20129:30 pm
Hello, sole possession of first place. Enjoy it while it lasts (hopefully til the end of the season, but we’ll see).
Folks looking forward to a tough June … have you actually looked at May’s schedule?
2 days off in the month (the second being the last day of the month).
Opponents: Phillies (x3), Rockies (x3), Cubs (x3), Cardinals (x6), Reds (x6), Rays (x3), gNats (x3), Marlins (x2)
How is that not a tough month? After the Reds 2-gamer, Braves will be 1/2-way through, 8-4 record so far.
DOB in your opinion why does it seem that the Braves starters cannot get past the 5th inning consistantly. I personally think its because they dont make adjustments to the lineup the 2nd or 3rd time around.
May 13th, 20129:31 pm
Maybe Francisco can do some of his moon shots at Great American.
Haha, yeah, really! Well, that should keep him happy for the next couple days, and then he cann go wreak havoc elsewhere…
Hope so! Playing the Reds comes at a good time, too—and I think Ricky Nolasco might pitch game 2 of the Marlins mini-series! BMac oughta have a really good homestand!…
May 13th, 20129:34 pm
J-Man–I don’t know about in general. But today, Hanson got into some trouble early–runners at 2nd & 3rd with no outs. He struck out the next three batters to get out of the jam. He struck out the first two batters in the next inning. While five straight strike outs is exciting, it usually is the sign of a pitch count getting run up. This was the first time through the order. He had some greater efficiency later, but the pitch count was already up, albeit not as high as Lynn’s early on.
May 13th, 20129:38 pm
thanks DOB – that is how I view Hanson. Still a fall from his billing when he hit the majors. Still a #3 starter who can be a #2 when he is on his game is nothing to sneeze at.
It does, though, reinforce the Braves need for a true ace. These days you have to raise one yourself from draft or latin american free agent. No way can any team outside the top 5 in spending can afford one (NYY, Boston, LA Dodgers, LA Angels, Texas) routinely anymore.
That is why Teheran is going nowhere. He is the only person in the minors that has a ceiling as an ace. Whether he hits that potential ceiling or not, who knows, but he is not going anywhere.
Beachy is an interesting case. He is pitching as a top of the rotation pitcher this year and he is still relatively young. As he gets better command, who knows where his ceiling is?
May 13th, 20129:39 pm
I agree with you about Hansons pitch count being up. But that comes from the Braves pitcher allowing way too many walks as a team, especially too many 1st batter walks. In fact they are tied 21st in the league in walks and when pitchers pitch from the stretch they become easier to hit. Maddux basically never pitched from the stretch because his focus was always on the player at the plate.
May 13th, 20129:40 pm
June was our downfall the year we broke the streak. June this year could go a long way towards breaking our streak without an NL East title.
If we can stay healthy, I like our chances
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