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nolie
May 8th, 2012
10:47 pm
Venter’s pie chart on gameday shows him as throwing no fast balls.
Harry Caray
May 8th, 2012
10:48 pm
I am still puzzled by Joe Johnson’s contract.
Rilo
May 8th, 2012
10:48 pm
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 8th, 2012
10:45 pm
Rilo However, he just seems to be making a ton of uncharacteristic mental errors.
Off hand, I can’t think of any…
…of course you can’t.
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
10:48 pm
phil-
I didn’t say that. Just that instead of always blaming Braves players (like saying we are terrible hitters when a pitcher shuts us down) instead of giving credit to the other team for a good play…that does happen every now and then, you know. It’s not always because the Braves suck.
nolie
May 8th, 2012
10:48 pm
yeah I am a bit concerned. hopefully it will pass
phil
May 8th, 2012
10:49 pm
He won’t stop shooting jumpers, george. Big reason he drives me insane.
And he has zero feel for when to celebrate. His antics led directly to the comeback tonight for them….
He makes me nuts with that crap.
tiger297
May 8th, 2012
10:49 pm
nolie – curve/slider harder on the elbow and FB harder on the shoulder?
abeeewright
May 8th, 2012
10:49 pm
tiger and nolie … I definitely saw 97 out of Venters this year and consistently.
It seems to be recent that his speed has dropped (assuming it has).
Ralph
May 8th, 2012
10:49 pm
Hanging tough
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
10:50 pm
Maybe, just maybe, Wood made a good move to pick Mac off. I mean, it’s not like that has never happened before in baseball…
Such an apologist. So when Rev misses an easy play, don’t criticize, right? After all, players have lost balls in the lights or wherever many times.
TheOnlyBravesFan-
Never said that either. But like I just said to phil, it’s not always “because the Braves suck”
phil
May 8th, 2012
10:50 pm
Fair point, cab.
But the pick off was on mac.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 8th, 2012
10:50 pm
cabravesfan—
The squirrels are everywhere, too…and so is their dang poop. And they try their best to break the grill—and are always licking the brush, or climbing up into the grill and licking the part where the food goes (this is why we got a grill cover, of course…) They chew on our deck, on our birdhouse, on our swingset, dig up the flowers, eat our $40 mealworms, eat our birdfood………
B_F 52
May 8th, 2012
10:50 pm
smoked soriano
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 8th, 2012
10:50 pm
True that.
Okay, will be on the lookout for that. No criticizing from McFann or cab as whatever a player did wrong was likely done before. ;roll;
phil
May 8th, 2012
10:51 pm
I hesitate to ask but…..
Doesn’t Kimbrel looka bit chubby now too?
abeeewright
May 8th, 2012
10:51 pm
Uh oh. Only 97 on that FB from Kimbrel. Didn’t he used to hit 98-99 on the gun last year?
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
10:51 pm
McFann-
This is why I have a dog
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
10:51 pm
phil-
so it had nothing to do with a good move by Wood?
tiger297
May 8th, 2012
10:52 pm
mcfann – start eating those tasty buggers and the rest will leave you alone. I have some nice recipes if you would like.
CaptMudd
May 8th, 2012
10:52 pm
Carving Brarves not tonight
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 8th, 2012
10:52 pm
Suffice is to say, y’all at the beach have the seagulls, we in the ‘burbs have the squirrels…
The A Bomb
May 8th, 2012
10:52 pm
SO you blow 97 by the guy twice and come back with 2 sliders. Extra pitches even with the strikeout. Ridiculous.
George Stein
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
At least we aren’t Sixers fans, phil. They have 25 points. At the half.
tiger297
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
ab – there is your 98
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan-
Also, I’m not an apologist. I don’t apologize for anything that I think about my teams. Or for any player.
Powder Blue
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
Braves win! Nice comeback after last night. Good night, all.
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
I know that we have to lose, and that some days we will be outplayed. I just don’t see why that can’t mean that players didn’t execute something properly. I play high school ball, and no matter if we win or lose, there are times that we don’t execute properly. Those things are always addressed.
abeeewright
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
BARVES WIN! BARVES WIN!
BFChris27
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
Braves WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nolie
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
I am not really talking mostly about his speed, I am talking about the fact that lately he been throwing VERY few of them at all. if he is sound then it is pretty silly pitchcalling IMO. his breaking stuff works even better when set up by heat
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
cabravesfan—
Yeah, I’m thinkin’ of getting one of those someday…
tiger—
Uh…yeah, that’s OK…
CaptMudd
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
Kimbrel surgical carving of Cubbies—nice one Bravos…real nice.
JasonInFL
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
Good job, Kimmie! Get the series win tomorrow boys!
Bravefaninok
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
That is the Kimbrel we all know and love….
Mister Frisky
May 8th, 2012
10:53 pm
Ball Game.Go Braves!
LAG
May 8th, 2012
10:54 pm
Ballgame!
Nice to see Kimbrel bounce back.
Short night for me, kids. Man, this semester just will not end…
The A Bomb
May 8th, 2012
10:54 pm
WELL DONE! No song tonight.
phil
May 8th, 2012
10:54 pm
He made a great move, cab. But why is mac 40 feet off the bag?
Anyway, good night all.
I like wins like this. Tough and impressive. Even Mac!
tiger297
May 8th, 2012
10:54 pm
at least I’m not an NBA fan…could care less how many they points score – did they just come off the strike for the playoffs?
count_schemula
May 8th, 2012
10:54 pm
3-1 is pretty close. They still have work to do.
Cap: Where's My Tip
May 8th, 2012
10:54 pm
“he just seems to be making a ton of uncharacteristic mental errors.”
“…of course you can’t”
if you can’t name anything other then the supposed pickup, your argument that he makes “a ton” of mental errors is as good as dead
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
10:55 pm
McFann-
Oh, we have squirrels too…at the house I used to live in (which was near a park), they would assemble on the roof of the building in the back yard and taunt poor Nala. Literally…they would sit on the edge of the rain gutters and chatter at her…drove her nuts…
Kat
May 8th, 2012
10:55 pm
Good win!
abeeewright
May 8th, 2012
10:55 pm
Tied for first place!
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 8th, 2012
10:56 pm
Uh oh. Only 97 on that FB from Kimbrel. Didn’t he used to hit 98-99 on the gun last year?
Yes, but I heard that most pitchers velocity is down by 1-3 mph this year, likely meaning that radar guns aren’t working effectively.
At least we aren’t Sixers fans, phil. They have 25 points. At the half.
DAYUM!!!
tiger297
May 8th, 2012
10:56 pm
phil – he was that far off the bag to increase his chances of scoring on a double
The A Bomb
May 8th, 2012
10:56 pm
phil — probably McCann was extending his lead to score on a base hit.
Probably seen in the dugout a pitch or two before. Probably heads-up Sveum or Jamie Quirk. Cubs have hired a very solid coaching staff.
Rilo
May 8th, 2012
10:56 pm
cab
…no one said it wasn’t a good move. You’re argument was great move and stuff happens. The response from a majority of folks here is Mac could have been more focused there. I’m sure HE would even say that. You can be critical and fair.
Mixxo
May 8th, 2012
10:57 pm
Not a sexy win but, we’ll take it anyway.
nolie
May 8th, 2012
10:57 pm
SO you blow 97 by the guy twice and come back with 2 sliders. Extra pitches even with the strikeout. Ridiculous…
thats what pitching is about changing speed and eye level. no more ridiculous doing it, than bitching about it
The A Bomb
May 8th, 2012
10:58 pm
nolie — one slider fine, but you dominated the guy at 97. Why another? That’s my point.
cricket
May 8th, 2012
10:58 pm
WAS, PHI and MIA lost, mutts keep up dark horse role
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
10:58 pm
Rilo-
I was not even making an argument. Just suggesting that, maybe we should give some credit to Wood for making a good play, instead of simply blaming Mac for getting picked off.
tiger297
May 8th, 2012
10:59 pm
well heck the game is over…what is my excuse for not moving stuff downstairs now?
Cap: Where's My Tip
May 8th, 2012
11:01 pm
props go to Delgado: quality start tonight, 13 and 2/3 IP his past two starts giving up just 3 earned runs (but still having an 0-1 record).
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:01 pm
don’t wanna make noise and wake folks up?
Rilo
May 8th, 2012
11:03 pm
Cap: Where’s My Tip
if you can’t name anything other then the supposed pickup, your argument that he makes “a ton” of mental errors is as good as dead
1. It’s pickoff
2. errors at the plate (swinging at pitches off the plate…early in the count…when the pitcher has walked two in a row).
3. Not getting in front of pitches that bounce (most people are just saying he’s fat and an idiot…I’m trying to see something a tad more logical)
4. I have to think some of the struggling from our starting pitching MIGHT have something to do with the staff and McCann not being on the same page. (i.e. it’s not always Hanson’s fault for throwing 5 straight curveballs. Perhaps Mac called for all five? McCann even stated that some of the errors were his.)
…Do I need to keep going?
tiger297
May 8th, 2012
11:04 pm
cab – I think gitting picked off is always on the runner regardless of how good the move is.
Especially with 2 outs and a 3-0 count.
JasonInFL
May 8th, 2012
11:04 pm
Huddy is going to pitch his first really, really solid game tomorrow and lead us to the series win!
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
11:04 pm
tiger-
I disagree, but c’est la vie…
Rilo
May 8th, 2012
11:06 pm
Cab….
my statment is you can do both. It was a great move but it’s also fair to say Mac could have prevented it.
tiger297
May 8th, 2012
11:06 pm
nolie – thats not bad…I’m going to go move something loud then she will complain and I can quit with her blessing
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:06 pm
ok I need that win
JC Brave
May 8th, 2012
11:07 pm
The Mets doing to the Phillies what the Braves seem unable to do…
Unbelievable…
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
11:08 pm
Rilo-
I never said Mac was blameless…
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 8th, 2012
11:08 pm
cab – I think gitting picked off is always on the runner regardless of how good the move is.
Especially with 2 outs and a 3-0 count.
Especially, as Chipper says, the Braves play the right way and take on 3-0… didn’t need to running there… I will say Wood had a good move, but McCann appeared to be caught off guard.
brian
May 8th, 2012
11:09 pm
great job Braves
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
May 8th, 2012
11:09 pm
cabravesfan—
Squirrels are devils…
maybe we should give some credit to Wood for making a good play, instead of simply blaming Mac for getting picked off.
Are you kidding? Blaming BMac is the thing to do right now!…
Oh well, time to call it a night! Nice win. Night, all!
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:09 pm
what exactly is unbelievable about it? Same things happen to every team every year. it not football where the better teams wins almost every time. the best in baseball only win 6 out of 10 and they lose games to every team in the league including the worst ones
CaptMudd
May 8th, 2012
11:09 pm
I didn’t see the ‘pick-off’ and, so what if it was Mac….could have been just about anyone on the roster. Wood is a slick operator and very experienced so really doesn’t surprise me. Hey he made a mistake and it’s a human thing…we won…to heck with Brian’s ‘faults,’ no need to complain when we won! We don’t have to be perfect to win a game…Huddy tomorrow and a series win…Go Braves!!!
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
11:10 pm
Night McFann!
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:11 pm
some peeps always need someone to blame about something
Kat
May 8th, 2012
11:12 pm
Aww an afternoon game… stinks. Well I hope I get home from work tomorrow to see that they won the series.
J-Man
May 8th, 2012
11:12 pm
With Chipper and Lowes money coming off the books next season $24 million dollars. We could actually have a real chance to sign Josh Hamilton if he becomes a free agent. I think if we do make that deal Liberty Media will trade McCann and/or Prado to open up extra cash. And will probably not make a tender offer to Jurrjens to make enough room for other moves. Granted this is purely speculation and obviously I have no idea what the future holds I see this as a possibility
Rilo
May 8th, 2012
11:12 pm
Cab…
I hear ya…but this is what your comment was:
“Maybe, just maybe, Wood made a good move to pick Mac off. I mean, it’s not like that has never happened before in baseball…”
seems very sarcastic and leaves little room for both of those to exist (critical and fair).
TheOnlyBravesFan
May 8th, 2012
11:13 pm
I need to get to bed, as I have school in the morning. Good night all!!!
No need to bash BMac, at least for McFann’s sake. He made a mistake, but it didn’t cost us the game. He’ll be better next time.
Go BRAVES!
Peace out, bloggers.
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:14 pm
they aint signing josh hamilton no matter how much id available, if you really believe that you are letting yourself in for some severe disappointment
J-Man
May 8th, 2012
11:16 pm
Well they will have the money available, nolie didnt say they would sign him but I think they will make an offer.
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
11:17 pm
Rilo-
If that’s the way you read it, so be it. But I get tired of reading all the overly critical and totally unfair comments regarding Mac…
But all that says is maybe we should consider other ideas than just “Mac sucks”
David O'Brien
May 8th, 2012
11:18 pm
Lot of talk in the clubhouse about the turn that SS Jack Wilson made on that 8th-inning DP — def. replacement paid off tonight
cabravesfan
May 8th, 2012
11:18 pm
But whatever. I don’t want or need to spend the rest of the evening debating this.
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:19 pm
I don’t. too much risk for the money he will want. something goes wrong and a medium tier team like Atlanta would be really screwed. I seriously doubt they even think about it. besides Hamilton will likely stay in Texas and even if he doesn’t some big money team will be willing to pay more than the Braves.
JC Brave
May 8th, 2012
11:22 pm
The word “unbelievable” has become an expression of shock caused by something you can’t accept.
I’m just unable to accept how the Braves almost beat themselves every 2 out of 3 games against the Phillies, and the Mets are handling them so well. Not that the Mets CAN’T do it, just that if every team is doing it, why can’t these guys?
That’s all.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
May 8th, 2012
11:25 pm
How lucky to have an elite closer on the cheap.
J-Man
May 8th, 2012
11:27 pm
Wilson still has gold glove caliber defense. That being said easily 1 of Fredi best moves this year. Pastornicky flat out scares me when any ball is hit toward him but to quote someone “his lack of range has definately prevented a lot of Errors”.
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:27 pm
I just think it is an unrealistic way to look at baseball, the essence of the game is build around a high level failure involving all teams and all things. when you think that way you are just pening yourself up to more disappointment because thats what happens to all teama
count_schemula
May 8th, 2012
11:28 pm
“Granted this is purely speculation”
Only speculation, but, Hamilton goes for about twice what the Braves could spend.
And, not to be a downer… he’s 31 this season.
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:28 pm
yeah well it certainly wasn’t anybody actually in baseball who said that about his range
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
May 8th, 2012
11:28 pm
nolie, that’s a concept that blows my mind people can’t understand by now. That’s right, this ain’t football.
count_schemula
May 8th, 2012
11:29 pm
ooooh oh ohh oh ohhh ohh ohhho oh
Moves like Wilson, got the moves like Wilson.
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:29 pm
and he is a risk, he relapsed again this season.
richbrave
May 8th, 2012
11:30 pm
I laugh at all the wails and gnashing of teeth from last night’s blog. The idiots who predicted the mighty DEMPSTER Dumpster would throttle the BRAVES while the wet behind the ears ineffective rookie DELGADO would be taken to the wood-shed by the mighty CUBS line-up.
Enjoyed the game immensely, thank you WGN, and even more so remembering the prognostications of the…………….fill in your own appropriate word here.
count_schemula
May 8th, 2012
11:30 pm
“and he is a risk, he relapsed again this season.”
nothing a properly written clause could take care of…
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:32 pm
yup that’s why they bother to play the games rich, but to be fair, the odds did look to favor the Cubs a bit
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:34 pm
oh yeah it is, too many ways things could go for it to be totally cut and dried. Union would have its input, and another richer team would likely offer a contract with less clauses
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
May 8th, 2012
11:34 pm
Hamilton has an addiction disease that isn’t cured by talk and counselling. He keeps falling off his wagon … or is that for an alcoholic? Whatever.
count_schemula
May 8th, 2012
11:35 pm
Comcast is labeling my MBL traffic as CS1 to give CS5 priority to their own Comcast Infinity services.
Outrageous!
JC Brave
May 8th, 2012
11:35 pm
Not getting my point. Yeah, i beat myself too much on every loss knowing that every team has around 60 of those every year. But that’s my problem to get over it.
My point is, the Braves are failing so bad against the Phillies, even when they’re as weak as they are atm. It was only the first series of the year, there are still 15 games to play against them, but the Phillies are flat out dominating the Braves on every level. And I’m not even gonna talk about the Nationals.
nolie
May 8th, 2012
11:35 pm
sue ‘em count
J-Man
May 8th, 2012
11:36 pm
I know there is risk but he is the best overall player in the game along with Matt Kemp. I know that he will be expensive at least 25 million a season for 6 years. But you have a gold glove defense a guy that can steal 25 a season, and hit 40-50 a season and he hits for average. I know its a “Pie in the Sky” at the moment but we will have 24 million off the books and will probably have close to 30 million off the books if we nontender Jurrjens. And more than that oif McCann or Prado gets traded. So I think we resign Bourn and then we still have a lot money available.