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raleighbravefan
April 30th, 2012
4:09 pm
Marlins lose again. Bell was bad.
Murph
April 30th, 2012
4:09 pm
They apparently dont believe in second chances.
Pretending to be a widow to get a second chance? You put the ass in class.
Whoever you are, whatever personality you are portraying today, whether you’re a regular or some retard in off the streets, you should be IP banned.
For-ev-er.
john1010
April 30th, 2012
4:11 pm
I think Lowe going to Cleveland is a good move regardless of what he does over there. I like that Beachy, Minor and Hansen are getting to pitch so many innings. Can’t wait to see Gilmartin, Teheran, and Delgado compete to be in the rotation. I also think Medlin could start.
ncscoots
April 30th, 2012
4:11 pm
Bell was bad.
Once is a fluke, twice may be coincidence, three times is a trend.
Juan en México
April 30th, 2012
4:12 pm
El Afronta debe ser fino sin Heyward esta noche. ¡Optimistamente él acostumbrado es fuera largo!!
TennesseePaul
April 30th, 2012
4:13 pm
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .432 .488 .514 1.001 .446 __178
Prado__ .314 .375 .514 0.889 .402 __144
Freeman .294 .333 .382 0.716 .312 ___98
McCann_ .212 .297 .333 0.631 .311 ___74
Uggla__ .323 .432 .548 0.981 .427 __170
Chipper .212 .308 .394 0.702 .331 ___93
Hinske_ .143 .250 .143 0.393 .203 ___11
Pastorn .324 .378 .382 0.761 .370 __111
Minor__ .000 .000 .000 0.000 .000 _-100
IHEARTCARROLL
April 30th, 2012
4:14 pm
En ingles, por favor.
ncscoots
April 30th, 2012
4:15 pm
TennPaul, do HInske’s last 9 starts go back to last year, or something?
Juan en México
April 30th, 2012
4:16 pm
¡Heyward tiene pelotas grandes… es fuerte y duro!
raleighbravefan
April 30th, 2012
4:17 pm
Maybe the Padres knew something.
IHEARTCARROLL
April 30th, 2012
4:18 pm
I don’t understand, but the upside down exclamation point does make it look important.
CrαZy
April 30th, 2012
4:19 pm
How many games does Rondo deserve to be suspended?
TennesseePaul
April 30th, 2012
4:19 pm
scoots, no. Why you might ask? Because I deleted that data before I thought about that and I have no desire to add it back in. It’ll catch up eventually. Right now it is only the starts of this year, no more than 9 starts…
woman in the throes
April 30th, 2012
4:21 pm
“I dunno, if I didn’t like 99% of the people on here, care about what they think, then I probably wouldn’t be on here” – I have no idea whether I’d like 99% of the people on here. I mostly come to read Carroll and DOB’s takes on the Braves. Occasionally I try to feel the pulse of the folks posting here but it is frequently a place I don’t care for and don’t stay. Sometimes an intelligent discussion pops up and piques my interest. When I come here it isn’t to make friends, though I’m not opposed to making friends, it is to discuss baseball in general and the Braves in particular. And FYI, when I referred to people I wouldn’t want to meet I was talking about that one douche, not everyone here.
ncscoots
April 30th, 2012
4:23 pm
TennPaul, gotcha. Last nine or fewer (where applicable).
(I started to throw out a little “Challenge!” there, but thought better of it.)
debravity
April 30th, 2012
4:24 pm
Saving bullpen arms is good. Using Medlen for middle relief is not good. Gotta find someone else to help bridge the gap to the big 3.
Braves are the first team in history to make the argument that a good middle reliever is more important than a good starter. It’s simply not true. Medlen would help the Braves win more games by taking Delgado’s turn in the rotation. And actually there’s less need for middle relief innings without Delgado’s short starts.
TennesseePaul
April 30th, 2012
4:25 pm
Last nine or fewer (where applicable).
Yes. This early in the season, that is true. But once everyone has 9 starts it will truly be the L9S9.
Sopheee
April 30th, 2012
4:26 pm
CraZy – I say one game like the rules say. It definitely wasn’t an accident like he’s claiming. I could see that from the nosebleed section yesterday.
TennesseePaul
April 30th, 2012
4:26 pm
Essentially none of the pitchers or bench players have reached 9 starts…
CrαZy
April 30th, 2012
4:26 pm
Sometimes an intelligent discussion pops up
Really….I’ve been reading this blog for 4 or 5 years I must have missed those days!!
raleighbravefan
April 30th, 2012
4:28 pm
CraZy – NBA…who cares???
CrαZy
April 30th, 2012
4:29 pm
Sopheee
I agree it’s only a 1 game suspension, but Rondo already has 1 suspension under his belt this year. The league has the right to punish him harder than a 1st time offender!!
ncscoots
April 30th, 2012
4:30 pm
Medlen would help the Braves win more games by taking Delgado’s turn in the rotation.
I think what you mean is that Medlen would win more games than Delgado, which is quite different from “help the Braves win more games”. Medlen’s current role tends to be somewhat unquantifiable, so one can’t really say that having Medlen start plus another body in the bully is a better choice than Medlen in the bully plus some random fifth starter.
Murph
April 30th, 2012
4:31 pm
What’s this about the NBA? I thought they were on strike?
raleighbravefan
April 30th, 2012
4:32 pm
Murph – No such luck.
Ward
April 30th, 2012
4:33 pm
Hello everyone! Have time for one post. Good to see the Braves in first. Let’s keep it rolling. Last night some one complained about Heyward being back to old ways. He’s batting about .273, so I see an improvement. Uggla is batting about .276, and I see an improvement there too. Offense is definatley better, and that’s why the Braves are in first too. You can add great bull – pen too. All, have a good one! Peace my friends……”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
IHEARTCARROLL
April 30th, 2012
4:33 pm
@CraZy 4:19
The replay that I saw, I think he has a case that it was unintentional. The ref was walking away, and Rondo stepped on the back of his foot, causing the ref to stop mid-stride and Rondo’s momentum carried him into the ref.
I don’t have a dog in the fight, didn’t even know of it till you asked and I went looking for it. Don’t know the history if any.
raleighbravefan
April 30th, 2012
4:35 pm
Okay…too much NBA talk. I’m outa here.
CrαZy
April 30th, 2012
4:35 pm
CraZy – NBA…who cares???
It’s OK most old people have a hard time keeping up with fast paced games!!
Samantha
April 30th, 2012
4:38 pm
@Muph. I could come back as Samantha,Bettie, or my real name. It would not matter to you. I know I was wrong before and wanted to correct my mistakes. You dont believe in second chances so that is OK. I will not bother anybody ever again.
vesaversa
April 30th, 2012
4:44 pm
First place in the National League mean nothing this early in the season. The Braves need to work on scoring with men on base .
richbrave
April 30th, 2012
4:45 pm
A mention of LOWE makes me yearn for the MELK-man, JEFF FRANCOUER, and other notables who performed not so well in BRAVES’ unis. Where are they now?
A.L
East
Baltimore
Wilson BETEMIT 51 AB .235 BA
Boston
Jarred SALTALAMACCHIA 50 AB .240 BA
N.Y. Yankees
Boone LOGAN 9.1 IP 0.96 ERA
MFIKY 7.0 IP 1.29 ERA
Mark TEIXEIRA 83 AB .229 BA
Andruw JONES 30 AB .200 BA
Tampa Bay Rays
Kyle FARNSWORTH – 15 DL elbow
Toronto Blue Jays
Yunel ESCOBAR 98 AB .224 BA
Kelly JOHNSON 77 AB .247 BA
Central
Chicago White Sox
Wil OHMAN 6.1 IP 5.68 ERA
Tyler FLOWERS 15 AB .133 BA
Brett LILLIBRIDGE 21 AB
Duente HEATH minors 40 man
Cleveland Indians
Jairo ASCENCIO 11.1 IP 7.15 ERA
Derek LOWE 31.2 IP 2.27 ERA
Casey KOTCHMAN 67 AB .149 BA
Detroit
Octavio DOTEL 8.2 IP 0.00 ERA
Kansas City Royals
Bruce CHEN 27.2 IP 4.23 ERA
Tim COLLINS 12.0 IP 3.00 ERA
Brayan PENA 39 AB .282 BA
Jeff FRANCOUER 83 AB .229 BA
Minnesota Twins
Scott DIAMOND – minors 40 man
West
L.A. Angels
NONE
Oakland Athletics
Joey DEVINE 15 DL TJ surgery scheduled
Brandon HICKS minors 40 man
Seattle Mariners
Kevin MILLWOOD 22.1 IP 5.24 ERA
George SHERRILL 15 DL 1.1 IP 27.00 ERA
Texas Rangers
Neftali FELIZ 21.0 IP 3.00 ERA
Matt HARRISON 26.2 IP 3.38 ERA
Elvis ANDRUS 82 AB .256 BA
N.L.
East
Miami Marlins
Omar INFANTE 62 AB .323 BA
N.Y. Mets
Manny ACOSTA 9.2 IP 9.31 ERA
Philadelphia Phillies
Pete ORR 18 AB .222 BA
Washington nationals
Adam LaROCHE 82 AB .329 BA
Rick ANKIEL 39 AB .256 BA
Mark DeROSA 15 DL 37 AB .081 BA
Central
Chicago Cubs
Joe MATHER 24 AB .292 BA
Cincinnati Reds
J.J. HOOVER 3.0 IP 0.00 ERA
Willie HARRIS 30 AB .100 BA
Houston Astros
Jordan SCHAFER 83 AB .265 BA
Juan ABREU minors 40 man
Milwaukee Brewers
Alex GONZALEZ 67 AB .264 BA
Pittsburgh Pirates
Charlie MORTON 17.0 IP 2.65 ERA
Chris RESOP 8.1 IP 3.24 ERA
Nate McLOUTH 22 AB .182 BA
Gorkys HERNANDEZ minors 40 man
Jeff LOCKE minors 40 man
St.Louis Cardinals
Adam WAINWRIGHT 19.2 IP 7.32 ERA]
Rafael FURCAL 89 AB .315 BA
Scott LINEBRINK 15 DL shoulder
West
Arizona Diamondbacks
Henry BLANCO 15 AB .200 BA
Takashi SAITO 15 DL calf injury
Colorado Rockies
NONE
L.A. Dodgers
NONE
San Diego Padres
Mark KOTSAY 16 AB .250 BA
San Francisco Giants
Gregor BLANCO 22 AB .182 BA
Melky CABRERA 90 AB .300 BA
IHEARTCARROLL
April 30th, 2012
4:45 pm
If I get to pick, stick with Samantha. That funny spelling of Bettie is a little weird.
Jimmy
April 30th, 2012
4:46 pm
Way to go Murph! Samantha was just trying to right her wrongs, and you got mean with her again.
Now, you’ve got me tearing up and leaving. You are just a meanie.
GO BARVES!!
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 30th, 2012
4:47 pm
Here’s an idea. Keep Hurtward or Wayward any name will fit, and his oblique out of the lineup forever.
He had two good weeks and all you suckers were on his band wagon again. What a joke. And all you fell for his two good weeks. Suckers!!!
You all have must have forgotten the past year and a half of weak ass grounders to second and 91mph getting past his sorry chop wood swing.
BUST!
phil
April 30th, 2012
4:47 pm
Joey the Bull
April 30th, 2012
1:15 pm
There is something special about this team. I did not feel the same last season because I figured we would have to have a ton of good luck and planetary alignment to get us to the big show. This season, with the few key additions and subtractions we made (Bye bye D Lowe-we won’t miss you, and as for you Gonzo, even my daughter last season (she is 10) hated when you came to the plate especially with RISP-because she and I both knew “out”) this season is different. Especially Chipper. He is leading this team and even though Kemp is a lock for the MVP, Chipper this year is the Braves MVP. He has injected something special-call it energy, call it confidence. But I have not had this much confidence since the ‘96 season. I have not felt this excited about the Braves since the ‘91 and ‘92 seasons-it is like we have the energy back. Remember how Buckhead sports bars were over crowded and Atlantans hanging on every Avery or Glavin or Maddux or Smoltzy pitch? What is different about this team vs. the ‘91 team is Chipper. We get to watch his story book farewell season. This will be a year to remember. How awesome will it be if Chipper is the WS MVP…
*************
I love Chipper as much as the next guy, but you’ve got to get real here.
1. We have to make the World Series.
2. We have to win the World Series.
3. Chipper has to stay somewhat healthy until the World Series.
4. Chipper has to play in all of the games.
5. Chipper has to dominate most of the games.
Have I said enough? It ain’t gonna happen.
ncscoots
April 30th, 2012
4:48 pm
J.J. HOOVER 3.0 IP 0.00 ERA
Hoover was called up? Good for him. Go get ‘em, young man. Mama needs a new house.
Jay Dubu
April 30th, 2012
4:49 pm
Lowe doesn’t have to focus on hitting now, so he can fully devote his energy to pitching.
To whomever had the question of, “Do we have to follow Lowe all season?”…yes, he’s still on the Braves’ payroll.
debravity
April 30th, 2012
4:49 pm
Scoots, I think it’s easier to replace a good middle reliever than to find a good starter. And, therefore, I think Medlen would win more games than Delgado, and would help the Braves win more games.
Obviously most teams share this opinion. Have you ever heard any team make the argument they’re holding a good starter out of the rotation because they really need someone who can pitch a good 6th inning? I’ve never heard that. Ever.
debravity
April 30th, 2012
4:51 pm
Frenchie back to being Frenchie.
phil
April 30th, 2012
4:53 pm
Bettie K
April 30th, 2012
2:26 pm
Apparently not very friendly people on this blog. So thanks for chatting. I wil try somewhere else.
*********
Harsh, yes, but good grief. This is the clear give away. The instant someone is a tad rude or doesn’t immediately respond to the Samantha brigade, they say we’re taking our ball and going home.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
4:55 pm
FYI, it is anonymous posting so you can say what you want to say without fear of reprisal//WITT
that sounds kinda Lou-ish
Murph
April 30th, 2012
4:56 pm
Nate McLOUTH 22 AB .182 BA
And here we all thought he couldn’t get any worse… turns out he could.
Jay Dubu
April 30th, 2012
4:57 pm
The Lowe trade was bound to happen after his performance last season…I just think the Braves are paying way too much of his salary regardless.
Othr than Mac, Uggs and Chipper, no one on the Braves’ roster is getting 10 mil.
At ~85 mill, how can you pay a guy 10 mil to not play for you? That, plus Mac, Uggs, and Chipper comes to ~half of the Braves payroll. So you have the 22 players splitting the other half.
That 10 mil could hve been sed to get some very good bench help.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:00 pm
Meldin isn’t middle relief, he didn’t bridge the gap to the big three, he was the big three the other night
ncscoots
April 30th, 2012
5:01 pm
Have you ever heard any team make the argument they’re holding a good starter out of the rotation because they really need someone who can pitch a good 6th inning?
No, but I’m not making that argument, either.
One of the strengths of the team is the back-end bullpen, correct? Can you quantify the effect of saving wear and tear on those three arms? That’s hard to do. There may be a number of games that the Braves win because they are able to get to the back end of the bully in situations where they might otherwise not be able to do so were Medlen not in the bullpen. Be pretty tough to put an actual number on that. Might be zero, might be ten or fifteen, who knows?
Now balance that number against the losses that fifth starter might suffer. That guy isn’t going to lose 10 or 15 games, because he’ll get bounced before that happens, replaced by another pitcher (who may or may not be any better). It is just unlikely, in my opinion only, that Medlen could significantly alter the team’s W-L record over some other fifth starter to the point that such performance would outweigh his value of his current role. But I don’t have any numbers that will bear that out, because Medlen indirectly affects wins in that role.
Mitch en Mexico
April 30th, 2012
5:02 pm
¡Afronta hedor que ellos no podrán continuar ganar como esto!!
phil
April 30th, 2012
5:03 pm
Venice Jim
April 30th, 2012
3:52 pm
@ajcbraves
Heyward woke up w/some soreness in left oblique. Thinks he might just need a day or so. Said no tightness so believes its a day-to-day thing
*********
Of course he did….
This guy is a walking disaster. He gets us thinking he’s truning things around, then right off the cliff he goes again. Naturally, an injury gets conjured up as cover for the collapse.
We’ll be hearing this crap now for the rest of the dang season.
arghhhhhhhhhhh!
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:04 pm
get a colloquial English-Spanish translator guys
ncscoots
April 30th, 2012
5:04 pm
We’ll be hearing this crap now for the rest of the dang season.
Only if you bring it up, phil.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:05 pm
so quit thinking he is turning things around and gettin’ your lil’ feelinges hurt when he doesn’t. Just stay negative all the…..oh wait….
Jay Dubu
April 30th, 2012
5:06 pm
richbrave, that’s some very good info…thanks for sharing.
phil
April 30th, 2012
5:06 pm
IHEARTCARROLL
April 30th, 2012
4:33 pm
@CraZy 4:19
The replay that I saw, I think he has a case that it was unintentional. The ref was walking away, and Rondo stepped on the back of his foot, causing the ref to stop mid-stride and Rondo’s momentum carried him into the ref.
I don’t have a dog in the fight, didn’t even know of it till you asked and I went looking for it. Don’t know the history if any.
*************
If that’s really what you think, then you need to get your eyes checked along with the rest of your head.
Unintentional? Good grief.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:06 pm
great summation scoots, but likely wasted on the target subject in that case….
phil
April 30th, 2012
5:07 pm
nolie’s in another of his bad moods, I see….
hey to you too.
Snotboogie
April 30th, 2012
5:08 pm
¡Afronta hedor que ellos no podrán continuar ganar como esto!!
Both you and Juan need to figure out the punctuation rules.
If it’s 2 inverted exclamation marks at the start, it should be 2 at the end too. Or it’s just 1 at both ends. Dont mix and match – makes you look fake.
IHEARTCARROLL
April 30th, 2012
5:09 pm
Phil,
I DO need my eyes checked, but that’s what I thought I saw. Just offering my take on it.
debravity
April 30th, 2012
5:09 pm
And Delgado lost the other night. What’s your point? You prefer a potential black hole in the rotation rather than even take the chance on finding someone else who can pitch a solid 6th or 7th inning?
I’m not saying Medlen doesn’t have value in the bullpen. He clearly does. My opinion is a good starter is more important than a # 3 or 4 reliever. If that’s not true, why do starters make so much more money than middle relievers? Guess I’m just not buying the Braves company line like some of you here. I’ll go with the other 29 teams on this issue.
Snotboogie
April 30th, 2012
5:10 pm
Evan Gattis promoted to AA Mississippi. To play left and occassionally catch.
So LF it is for young(ish) Gattis.
CrαZy
April 30th, 2012
5:10 pm
Phil
I hope he gets 2 since it’s his 2nd time he’ll be suspended this season!!
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:11 pm
I’m in a great mood, I love it when I can harass folks. It’s when I’m quiet that I’m in a bad mood.
Don’t take it all that seriously, but there might be a small nugget in there at times
DAP
April 30th, 2012
5:12 pm
with the braves playing well, we can start to look at how we would improve the little things. i personally think the bench could be better without jack wilson. but, it seems like the team still doubts pastornicky on defense. they always sub for him late in the game, putting wilson in for defense. are we in agreement that wilson is so much better than pastornicky? i wouldnt mind having a guy who might not be as good with the glove, but could hit a little bit. maybe calling sutton up.
Jay Dubu
April 30th, 2012
5:12 pm
@IHEARTCARROLL
The NBA is not the WWE. Rondo had just been given a T, so why then when he follow the ref, and continue to talk? Have to play with more control than that.
CrαZy
April 30th, 2012
5:12 pm
If he didn’t mean too he would have put his arms up to catch himself instead of poking his chest out. He clearly lunged at the ref after he stumbled.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:13 pm
the value of a pitcher in a particular role depends at least in part on the makeup on the rest of the staff
phil
April 30th, 2012
5:14 pm
He certainly deserves two. The chest bump into the ref’s back was obvious. You can see him thrust it out there and from behind, you see his shoulder blades flex backwards.
what a doof.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:14 pm
are we in agreement that wilson is so much better than pastornicky? …DAP
I am, plus he still serves as a mentor all the time. I think we have more problemos than Jack being on the bench, but thats JMO
DAP
April 30th, 2012
5:15 pm
nolie I am, plus he still serves as a mentor all the time. I think we have more problemos than Jack being on the bench, but thats JMO
whats a more pressing area that needs improvement, in your mind?
phil
April 30th, 2012
5:16 pm
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:11 pm
I’m in a great mood, I love it when I can harass folks. It’s when I’m quiet that I’m in a bad mood.
Don’t take it all that seriously, but there might be a small nugget in there at times
***********
You’ve been by far the toughest one on here for me to figure out. I never know with you.
As for Heyward, I do get sick of the slump, followed by an immediate injury claim. starting to sound like Chipper, and it gets really hard to believe. At least for me.
cabravesfan
April 30th, 2012
5:17 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Evan Gattis will catch and play LF for Mississippi while Bethancourt recovers from a hamstring strain.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:19 pm
the non-Jack part of the bench. it’s pretty weak and not very versatile.
Deldago starting is another, but with a limited amount of funds I’m not sure whatever problems we have will be corrected.
if guys play to their means more or less I think its a pretty good team
ColoradoBravesFan
April 30th, 2012
5:20 pm
Anyone heard how Gattis has looked so farin LF? Moving well, how’s he reading balls off the bat….anything?
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:22 pm
Don Rickles was a hero of mine phil
Puma
April 30th, 2012
5:22 pm
Is it just me or does Bryce Harper look like the major jagoff?
debravity
April 30th, 2012
5:22 pm
Agree with you scoots, it’s a debate that’s completely unquantifiable. Entirely a matter of opinion. My opinion is that Medlen is a potential all-star starting pitcher, not a 5th starter. A guy who can give you 200+ innings and 15+ wins is worth a lot. Starters that eat innings can save the bullpen, too. My opinion is that Medlen pitches efficiently enough that he’d be that type of starter. I don’t have proof of this, obviously.
The more relevant question is why nolie is such a douche bag?
keylargo
April 30th, 2012
5:22 pm
Have you ever heard any team make the argument they’re holding a good starter out of the rotation because they really need someone who can pitch a good 6th inning?
Another thing you’re not taking into consideration is that he pitched two innings last year after TJ surgery. The Braves probably don’t think it wise to ask Medlen to pitch 200 innings in the starting rotation after his 2011 numbers. He’s on pace for about 100 IP the way they’re using him now.
Frankie Wren
April 30th, 2012
5:23 pm
Saving bullpen arms is good. Using Medlen for middle relief is not good. Gotta find someone else to help bridge the gap to the big 3.
Let’s see…. Proctor? Linebrook? Sherrill? Durbin? Hernandez? Jesse Chavez? Resop? Boyer? Jorge Campillo? Don’t think the Big 3 would make it through September, IMO.
I’ll take Medlen in his current role.
kelevra
April 30th, 2012
5:23 pm
heyward is hurt again? this kid cant catch a break…. and neither can the braves. hope it’s not too serious
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:24 pm
no doubt that Jason has been frustrating so far in his career, I just try to joke it off and not let it get to me much
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:26 pm
cause its fun debravity, you might wanna toughen up a bit though if you thought that was douche-baggery
DAP
April 30th, 2012
5:27 pm
nolie the non-Jack part of the bench. it’s pretty weak and not very versatile.
Deldago starting is another, but with a limited amount of funds I’m not sure whatever problems we have will be corrected.
and these issues are pretty mild, too. I have the bench guys as David Ross, Juan Fransisco, Matt Diaz, Eric Hinske, Jack Wilson. You think that thats weak…EXCEPT for jack wilson? cant agree with you there. I think the bench is unspectacular, but fairly solid. hinske will come around, and diaz and fransisco seem to be pulling their weight.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:28 pm
he is not just pitching middle relief, he is also pitching in lieu of one of the big three. did you miss the figures on how many less innings they have so far?
AZBravoFan
April 30th, 2012
5:31 pm
Don’t worry, once the weather warms up and D. Lowe starts sweating like a pig, those numbers will correct themselves….
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:31 pm
I think its weak in realtion to what we should get from particular slots on the bench. They are gonna carry a light-hitting goof fielding SS no matter what and I don’t think anybody else will be enough of an improvement over Jack to talk about. I do believe that several others could be improved on relative to what we would like to expect. hey we all see it differently
phil
April 30th, 2012
5:36 pm
I am very often told, here in the real world, that people have trouble reading me.
I admit i like it that way.
See you good people around gametime….except for Samantha and her merry gang, i trust.
debravity
April 30th, 2012
5:37 pm
nolie, you might want to check yourself if you’re oblivious to the fact this is douche-baggery:
“great summation scoots, but likely wasted on the target subject in that case….”
Would you like for me to explain why this makes you a douche bag, douche bag? This is fun…
henry tn
April 30th, 2012
5:38 pm
we will see what kind of mettle the braves have tue & wed night they face hammel & halloday they are tough but they can be beat….
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:40 pm
gee I am soo very very sorry that I hurt your lil’ feelinges debravity.
Man up and get over it wuss
debravity
April 30th, 2012
5:49 pm
Take a look at the Phillies bullpen, for example. They don’t have the luxury of a “big 3″. They have a “big 2″. Would they be better if they moved, say, Cole Hamels, to the pen? That would obviously save innings for their big 2. And let’s say Hamels is replaced in the rotation by a young starter who’s not ready for the majors, and this starter just gives them 4 or 5 innings every 5th day while putting the team at a big disadvantage. Why not do that?
Obviously it’s a tremendous luxury if your team can afford a “big 4″ in the pen. But you can’t do that at the expense of the rotation, IMO. 29 teams agree with me.
debravity
April 30th, 2012
5:50 pm
I’m good, nolie. Thanks for your concern, douche bag.
Mixxo
April 30th, 2012
5:50 pm
This early above-avg. heat has everybody a bit touchy…..LOL.
Relax…..lets just win tonight and worry about the mighty Nats later.
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:52 pm
you are comparing Hamels with an ERA+ over his career of 126 and who would be at least a #2 in most rotations, to Medlen?
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:53 pm
Enter your comments here
cabravesfan
April 30th, 2012
5:53 pm
Explanation of Vin Scully calling Micky’s & Harper’s debuts:
http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/2012/04/30/more-on-mickey-vinnie-and-the-bryce/
nolie
April 30th, 2012
5:53 pm
hey we believed ya cab
iopbrave
April 30th, 2012
5:54 pm
glad to see Lowe doing well- no point second guessing trading him and eating the 10 mil ( can we go back in time and send Jurgens instead for a few prospects)- he was willing to come to Atlanta when no one else would Peavy, Burnett etc – Lowe won a bunch of games- carried us into the playoffs two years ago – sure he crashed last September but overall he did well in Atlanta- I don’t think he can do it for a whole season but 15 wins looks pretty attainable at this point
Russell Bell
April 30th, 2012
5:56 pm
What is the deal with your name debravity – a combination of ‘depravity’ and ‘Braves?’
Wow. That’s creative.
Much like another frequenter of this blog ‘disgusted’ – I will probably read none of your posts because your name is over the top, and ultimately, pretty lame.
bruce
April 30th, 2012
6:00 pm
need to subtract games/innings that Kimbrel Venters and O pitched to get work in… so the stats are even more impressive.
debravity
April 30th, 2012
6:02 pm
Of course you missed the point, nolie. But, yes, Hamels has a career record of 77-55. Career ERA of 3.38. I think Medlen has the potential to put up those kinds of numbers as a starter, based on where he was in 2010. Why not?
nolie
April 30th, 2012
6:11 pm
believe me I didn’t miss the point, i just think little of it. Hamels has pitched in a great hitter’s park of course his ERA is higher. he is a 126+, Lee is a 117+. and anybody who doesn’t know that he is a damned good pitcher needs to study up some.
by relying on ERA and W-L record as descriptions of a good pitcher is just so 1965-ish. no wonder I thought you would be incapable of understanding his summation. From your continued comments I see I was right