Braves did right thing sending down Jurrjens

LOS ANGELES – Optioning Jair Jurrjens to Triple-A Gwinnett is a move the Braves did not want to make, unless they absolutely had to.

And really, they pretty much had to.

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Jurrjens was demoted after his latest rough outing Monday night against the Dodgers. Statistically speaking, the 2011 All-Star has been the worst pitcher in the majors this season.

I mean, they just couldn’t keep running Jurrjens out there once every five days the way he was pitching. Statistically, he was the worst pitcher in the major leagues so far this season, with a 9.37 ERA and .411 opponents’ average in four starts.

With the 2011 All-Star showing no real signs of snapping out of his funk and getting back to where he was 10 months ago, it was not good for him and certainly not for the Braves to keep starting him and hoping things would change.

So they sent him down. Bold move in this day and age for a 26-year-old, established pitcher. Not to mention a 2011 All-Star.

They optioned him after last night’s 7-2 loss, in which he was charged with nine hits and five runs and left without recording an out in the fourth inning. They did it after we (reporters) already had talked to Jurrjens, other players and manager Fredi Gonzalez about the game, and after we’d returned to the Dodger Stadium pressbox to update our game stories with quotes and such.

We’d made it back up to the pressbox and were typing away when the email came, afte most players had left the ballpark and the last few were headed across the Dodger Stadium outfield to the team bus or cabs. The announcement was made at 10:45 p.m. L.A. time (1:45 a.m. in Atlanta).

Not that I would’ve expected Jurrjens to say a lot more about the situation than he did after the game anyway, when he made it clear he didn’t have the answer for why he was struggling, and kept his head up and said he’d keep fighting and try to get back to being good again.

“It’s just not clicking,” he said. “I don’t know what to say about that.”

And when the next question was, would you prefer they skip your next start with Tim Hudson coming off the DL on Sunday or Monday?, Jurrjens said, “No, I’m not a quitter. I’m just going to keep going out there and try to do my best. That’s the only thing I can do right now. I try to keep my team in the game.

“It’s just [that] for now, I’m not the same guy I used to be. Just going to keep fighting.”

That statement said so much about Jurrjens – proud and determined, but also candid, brutally honest. He sounded vulnerable and a bit sad. He sounded human, in other words.

If you were there, you had to feel for him. Nevermind how much money he makes, the life he leads, etc. This is a guy who is going through some serious professional difficulties, the kind of thing that a young athlete doesn’t expect to deal with in the prime of his career. Especially not one who scaled such heights less than 10 months ago, when Jurrjens was a first-time NL All-Star.

He’s not the same pitcher now. Not even close

Jurrjens has pitched 16-1/3 innings in four starts, so he falls short of the minimum qualifying standard for rankings, which is one inning per team game. The Braves have played 17 games.

But if he did qualify, if he wasn’t two outs shy, Jurrjens would rank dead last in the majors in ERA (9.37) and opponents’ avg (.411), on-base percentage (.482) and slugging percentage (.685)

He would also rank last in opposing average by left-handed batters at .471. Lefties are 16-for-34 against him with three homers, five walks and a .538 OBP and .824 slugging (1.362 OPS).

Righties are 14-or-39 (.359) with with five walks, three strikeout, a .432 OBP and .996 OPS.

He’s also last in the NL in opponents’ average with men on base at .586 (17-for-29).

Keep in mind, this is a pitcher who was 12-3 with a 1.86 ERA and .229 opponents’ average in 16 starts before the 2011 All-Star break, with 65 strikeouts, 25 walks and five homers allowed in 110-2/3 innings.

In 11 starts since then Jurrjens is 1-5 with a 6.87 ERA and .335 opponents’ average, with 33 strikeouts, 29 walks and 14 homers in 57-2/3 innings.

Whether it all stems from problems with his balky right knee, which shortened each of his past two seasons in 2010 and 2011, I don’t know. As I’ve written here, a scout for an American League team told me during spring training that many teams believe Jurrjens’ knee is a chronic injury that can’t be fixed by surgery.

I don’t know if that’s true; scouts say a lot of things off the record. But I don’t think it’s irresponsible to repeat it here for one reason — if other teams believe something, if they think Jurrjens is hurt, then it becomes newsworthy because it has and will affect his trade value, whether accurate or not.

Jurrjens said again last night that the knee felt fine, that he’s healthy and feels good.

As long as he keeps pitching and stays off the DL, all we can go on is what he and the team tell us. Both parties obviously want Jurrjens to be healthy and for everyone to believe that he’s healthy. Because nothing is much more damaging to a player’s trade value than whispers of a possible injury.

Same goes for a player’s value when he hits free agency (Jurrjens could be a free agent after the 2013 season, provided he doesn’t spen more than about two months in the minors between now and then (that’s my rough estimate after figuring his service time).

Jurrjens' demotion to Triple-A means Delgado (above) is likely to stay in the rotation after Tim Hudson is activated from the DL.

Jurrjens' demotion to Triple-A means Delgado (above) is likely to stay in the rotation after Tim Hudson is activated from the DL.

Again, Jurrjens says the knee is not causing his problems. But he’s wearing a brace on it when he pitches and works out. His velocity has been down a few ticks most games in the past year or so, but last night he did hit 90 mph plenty with his fastball.

With good movement and location, and secondary pitches as good as he’s had before, he can be successful with a 90 mph fastball.

“I think he had better stuff today,” veteran backup catcher David Ross said after Monday night’s game. “Honestly, you know, I don’t look at the radar gun or anything like that, but I felt like he made some pitches and got beat today. I felt like he made some pitches in to [Andre] Ethier. We kept Matt Kemp at bay for how hot he is. Mark Ellis, we kept him at bay. Dee Gordon got on [but] I felt like we kept him at check a little bit. The bottom of their lineup really stepped up today and did a good job.”

Indeed, the stunning stat from Monday’s game: Dodgers Nos. 6-8 hitters James Loney, Juan Uribe and A.J. Ellis had six hits in six plate appearances against Jurrjens. Each of them went 2-for-2 against him.

“They weren’t trying to pull JJ, they hit him the other way,” Ross said. “It seemed like a ton of balls got hit to right today by right-handed hitters, so that’s a good approach. I was just telling him [after the game], I thought he made some good pitches and got bad results. I thought they had a good approach, but he was making some pitches that he got beat on.”

Folks, I really don’t know what the ending is going to be to this story. No one does.

Jurrjens will go to Triple-A for what the Braves hope will, as GM Frank Wren said in a text last night, “give him a chance to work through his difficulties at the AAA level and hopefully come back ready to help us contend. He is not having any health or injury issues, just needs to get back on track pitching-wise.”

For his sake and the team’s, I’ll hope that happens. Because it’s rough seeing any good guy struggle professionally in what should be the beginning of the prime of his career.

• Gearrin called up: Taking Jurrjens’ roster spot for now will be reliever Cory Gearrin, who was recalled from Triple-A Gwinnett and is supposed to be in uniform for tonight’s game. The sidearmer had 15 strikeouts with two walks in 12-1/3 scoreless innings over seven relief appearances at Gwinnett, with 10 hits and a 0.973 WHIP.

Gearrin nearly made the team out of spring training, but stumbled in consecutive appearances at the end of camp. The Braves decided to add some experience and signed righty Chad Durbin instead of going with Gearrin or lefty Yohan Flande, who has also been dominant at Gwinnett (Gearrin is on the 40-man roster; Flande is not).

Reliever Gearrin was recalled from Triple-A and will be in uniform tonight.

Reliever Gearrin was recalled from Triple-A and will be in uniform tonight.

As a Braves rookie in 2011, Gearrin had a 7.85 ERA in 18 appearances, an ERA inflated by two terrible outings in his last three appearances. He had a 3.38 ERA and .193 opponents’ average in his first 15 major league appearances, with 21 strikeouts and six walks in 16 innings.

But then he gave up six runs while recording just one out at Philadelphia on July 10, and four more runs (and four walks) in one inning at Colorado on July 19. He didn’t pitch again in the majors last season.

Gearrin held right-handed hitters to a .143 average (6-for-42) with 18 strikeouts and a .167 slugging percentage, but lefties torched him at a .393 clip (11-for-28) with four extra-base hits, a .514 OBP and .643 slugging.

To be more effective against lefties, Gearrin spent the offseason working on his changeup. He made more progress in the spring after listening to advice from pitching coach Roger McDowell on taking some velocity off his fastball at times and get more sinking movement, which has been particularly effective against lefties.

BRAVES LINEUP

  1. Bourn CF
  2. Prado LF
  3. Freeman 1B
  4. McCann C
  5. Uggla 2B
  6. Jones 3B
  7. Heyward RF
  8. Pastornicky SS
  9. Minor LHP

Tonight’s matchup: Mike Minor pitched well but no decision in his only start against the Dodgers, allowing six hits and one run in six innings. A.J. Ellis is 1-for-2 with a homer against him, while James Loney (2-for-3) is the only Dodger with more than one hit againstthe left-hander.

Minor is 2-0 with a 0.59 ERA in two night games (his past two starts were at night, after a rough start in a day game at New York in the opening series). Right-handed batters are 7-for-49 (.143) against minor with a .211 OBP and .184 slugging percentage, while lefties are 6-for-18 with a .368 OBP and .444 slugging against the right-hander.

Minor’s change-up makes him effective against righties, similar to how Tom Glavine’s change-up did for the great Braves lefty.

Dodgers right-hander Aaron Harang is 1-3 with a 4.53 ERA in nine starts against the Braves, and gave up eight runs in three homers in an April 26, 2011 start against them at Dodger Stadium.

Brian McCann is 11-for-20 with two homers against Harang and David Ross is 4-for-9 with three homers – yes, the Braves catchers are 15-for-29 with five homers against him. Chipper Jones is 6-for-15 with a homer, and Dan Uggla is 9-for-24 with two homers against Harang.

• Etc.

Braves shortstops Tyler Pastornicky and Jack Wilson are a combined 10-for-64 (.156) with two walks, 13 strikeouts and a .179 OBP…. Braves third basemen  Jones, Juan Francisco and Martin Prado are a combined 18-for-66 (.273) with four homers, 13 RBIs and a .500 slugging perentage. Jones and Francisco have two homers apiece and all the RBIs (Prado has 16 at-bats at 3B).

• Let’s close with a great tune by Sharon Van Etten off her recent album Tramp. She’s playing at The EARL in Atlanta on Wednesday. You can hear the song by clicking here.

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“SERPENTS” by Sharon Van Etten

It was a close call,
Sitting in the back of the room with the boy… get on
But they didn’t know,
Closing on my back, I feel safe at times
Certain emblems tell me it’s time

Serpents in my mind, looking for your cries
Everything changes
I don’t want life to this time
You enjoy sucking on dreams,
so I will fall asleep
with someone other than you,
I had a thought, you would take me
Seriously and listen up

Serpents in my mind,
I am searching for your cries
Everything changes, in time you’ll stay, frozen in time
…. girls, controlling minds
You hold the mirror, to everybody else

Serpents in my mind, trying to forgive
Your cries
Everyone changes, in time
I hope he changes, this time.

– by David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog

1,787 comments Add your comment

JayDub

April 24th, 2012
4:52 pm

JayDub

April 24th, 2012
4:52 pm

Probably not.

ChopAttack

April 24th, 2012
4:55 pm

Two roads for JJ from here… Cliff Lee or Dontrelle Willis.

Chipper's SS Check

April 24th, 2012
4:56 pm

Only two people in the world who do not believe JJ should be sent down. JJ and Scott Boros.

RFernandez

April 24th, 2012
4:56 pm

I like your comparison of glavine and minor, I see the similarities a lot.

flange1

April 24th, 2012
4:56 pm

Thanks for the work DOB!

Calvin

April 24th, 2012
4:57 pm

Was that last year that B-Mac hit the longest homerun by a lefty at Dodger Stadium against Harang?

Fish Bisch

April 24th, 2012
4:58 pm

Herang owns us :(

John

April 24th, 2012
4:59 pm

DOB has no idea how to use stats and yet uses them more than anyone

Duke

April 24th, 2012
5:00 pm

Excellent write. Ready to see the kid bounce back at AAA. He has fight in him.

nolie

April 24th, 2012
5:00 pm

Still I think it’s silly to bring up PR as a reason not to trade JJ, when he was pitching his butt off, and the Braves had hopes of making it to the post season….Bat

now I see that as a very valid statement.which is why I said it would take more cojones than most any GM would have in that situation. In hindsight of course we know that the season couldn’t have ended any worse, but no way to know that then, and if he had been traded and stayed performing and we had started losing, the uproar would likely have been tremendous, more than most GMs would take a chance on causing IMO

Heyward's Bat

April 24th, 2012
5:01 pm

nolie

April 24th, 2012
5:01 pm

I think there is about as much agreement about sending JJ down as there ever is on the ol’ blog

Heisenberg

April 24th, 2012
5:02 pm

All along I thought JJ was FA after this season. Article says 2013. So I guess Hansen is FA after 2014? Is that correct?

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:02 pm

Derek (Iowa City)

I haven’t seen Jair Jurrjens pitch this year..getting sent down a sign they don’t think he is injured, and therefore mechanical/command issues? Pray tell that’s what it means…
David Schoenfield (1:20 PM)

I haven’t seen him yet either. Braves and Jurrjens both deny any injury. Jurrjens said his lack of velocity has weighed on him. Hmm. I don’t want to speculate but when you have a pitcher with a history injury and suddenly he’s not throwing as hard and has been getting lit up … something doesn’t add up.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
5:02 pm

Only two people in the world who do not believe JJ should be sent down. JJ and Scott Boros

I’m not actually sure JJ thinks he should be in the major league rotation right now. He seems to understand how things work

onebravosfan

April 24th, 2012
5:03 pm

I reall hope the issue is that he just hasn’t been able to trust his knee rather than the knee is a problem. Hopefully, after a few starts at AAA, he will have confidence in his knee and perform back at his standards. On the upside, there is probably a decent chance that we may be able to get another year out of him before we lose him to free agency…

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:03 pm

Ryan (Indy)

I know it’s early, but Heyward’s start has been encouraging. What are your expectations of him for this year?
David Schoenfield (1:34 PM)

I’m a big Heyward fan. Surprised how people were so quick to write him off last year when he battled the shoulder injury. I’m still not sure it’s 100 percent, but so far so good. .280, 20 homers?

ncscoots

April 24th, 2012
5:03 pm

Only two people in the world who do not believe JJ should be sent down. JJ and Scott Boros.

I don’t think even Jurrjens would argue with the call. The one person who really, truly knows how hard it’s been for him is…him. You can hide from a lot of things, but you can’t hide from yourself.

But I don’t think you have to worry about his approach when he goes down. The guy is a competitor, and is more likely to get mad than sad.

Greene Hornet

April 24th, 2012
5:03 pm

I wonder if Durbin is on a short leash. He looked ok the last time out, but horrible the others. I’ll back anyone who can go out there and play, but if you can’t then get someone who can until you can hone your skills. I just hope we can get the win tonight and get back to winning more games and series. Minor is a good guy to have on the mound to get the winning going again.

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:04 pm

Jeff (Detroit)

Back to Heyward, is this reasonable: .280/.370/.500 with 20 homers and 20 steals, and solid defense in right? At his age that’s still a star in the making, right?
David Schoenfield (1:43 PM)

He’s got to keep the strikeout rate down. That’s the big concern early on. And, yes, let’s remember he’s only 22. He’s still going to appear in a lot of All-Star Games.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
5:04 pm

Lineup?

Probably not until the clubhouse opens…it’s still early

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:04 pm

Paul (NY)

Over or under 30 as a career high in homers for Freeman?
David Schoenfield (1:44 PM)

Over

southern hope

April 24th, 2012
5:05 pm

Here’s one thing about last night’s game (and DOB, in a history of great columns, you wrote a really great one today), JJ is responsible for the 7 in the score but he has nothing to do with the 2….and the inability to move guys around the bases….so not all can be laid at JJ’s feet (well, knee).

kdawg1017

April 24th, 2012
5:06 pm

man fish bisch i see that a lot i guess every pitcher owns us i guess its a wonder how weve won at all the last 3 years

Heisenberg

April 24th, 2012
5:07 pm

Other than Joey Votto, 1B at the allstar game is there for Freeman to take a spot.

Shaun

April 24th, 2012
5:08 pm

nolie, the argument is that his results were much better than his performance and to trade him would have been a bet that the results would eventually come back down to the performance.

However, the trade wasn’t made because most GM’s aren’t going to take the chance on the results coming back down to match the performance in a case like that. As you argue, the PR hit would be a major one, regardless of actual performance, if the results had been as consistently good as in the first half. The only way a trade would have happened is if someone would have offered a major haul.

nolie

April 24th, 2012
5:08 pm

true hope, but 7 is usually a loser

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:08 pm

Mitch (NC)

Do you like Heyward in the 7 spot? Not that there’s anywhere else to put him, but he’s getting on a lot, and not in.
David Schoenfield (2:14 PM)

Why can’t you hit him second? He gets on more than Prado.

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:09 pm

Avey (corvallis)

Not anywhere else to hit Heyward?! He could hit 2, 3, 4 or 5. Fredi’s ridiculous thoughts on left-right-left-right gives him an excuse to move Heyward around from night to night, since there are “injuries” to fill in…
Mike (San Diego)

Heyward in the #7 spot can only be described one way: Frediotic.
David Schoenfield (2:17 PM)

I think way too many managers have gotten hung up on the L-R-L-R thing. Most left-handed relievers are mediocre anyway. Why are you worrying so much about matchups that MAY occur in late innings, instead of devising your best lineup to beat the starting pitcher?

nolie

April 24th, 2012
5:10 pm

or third, there are lots of places to hit him and IMO 7 is pretty damn low on the list

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
5:11 pm

Appropriate we have Sharon Von Bluuuuuuggghhhhh on a bloggage talking about dropping our Nos 1 starter to AAA….. and yes his knee is rogered. Give the kid a good break and bring him back from a LONG LONG DL stint in 2013… his knee is rogered, Roger that Roger Waters..

“So, so you think you can tell, heaven from hell………..”

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:11 pm

Gary (Atlanta)

Do you see Freeman making the All Star team as a backup this year? First base is weak
David Schoenfield (2:28 PM)

Yeah, NL first base is probably historically weak right now, especially with injuries to Howard and now Berkman. Once you get past Votto and Freeman, who else is a candidate?

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
5:12 pm

“Over or under 30 as a career high in homers for Freeman?”

Under.

BA and doubles is his came. I compare him to Sean Casey.

nolie

April 24th, 2012
5:12 pm

can’t put him on the DL until he says there is something wrong Brecky

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
5:13 pm

Ryan Howard still gets voted to the all-star game, bank on it, lol.

nolie

April 24th, 2012
5:13 pm

reckingball

April 24th, 2012
5:14 pm

What else could Wren do, other than send him to AAA.
The team can’t afford to lose every fifth game, and I don’t think that the hitters can score 10 to 12 runs every time he pitches.
It’s the best move for JJ and the team, right now.
I hope he can get it together.
go braves.

cricket

April 24th, 2012
5:15 pm

I’m not actually sure JJ thinks he should be in the major league rotation right now. He seems to understand how things work

isn’t he a pouter? :)

Ritz

April 24th, 2012
5:16 pm

Gearrin coming up is interesting.

You gotta figure that if he does pretty well that could spell the end for Durbin. =)

abeeewright

April 24th, 2012
5:17 pm

Minor needs to bring the Hanna Rule with him tonight.

Tired of seeing the Braves get scored on like a two-penny fill-in-the-blank.

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:17 pm

I think Freeman will have at least one 30 homer season

abeeewright

April 24th, 2012
5:17 pm

Wang Harang!

cricket

April 24th, 2012
5:18 pm

J-Man

April 24th, 2012
5:19 pm

Well reckingball I’m glad you see thing from my point of view. Now all you have to do now is realize that Pastornicky cant hit Major League pitching

Bat Masterson

April 24th, 2012
5:19 pm

Good stuff on JJ, DOB. Thanks

I hope he can work it out in AAA, I’ve enjoyed watching him pitch the last few years.

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
5:19 pm

I think freeman’s best season will look something like .330 27HR 42 doubles 108RBIs

J-Man

April 24th, 2012
5:20 pm

I think there are Umps that have “agendas” against certain teams, and I really could see that there are some Umps that might be “bought off”. Think about it Tim Donaghy was a well respected referee in the NBA butwhen the FBI came down on him we truly found out how gambling can not only get the players but referees as well. Now the same people that bet on the NBA also bet on MLB games, This is a fact, now Major League Baseball employs more Umpires/Referees than the NBA, MLB has twice as many games as the NBA. Former mob boss Michael Franzese has flat out said that all major sports have officials in the pockets of the mob and gambling bosses. For that reason alone MLB should use instant replay to reduce the potential effects of any corrupt officials. Also the most important thing is to get the play right. Also I recommend anyone to look up Michael Franzese interview in the Jim Rome radio show.

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:21 pm

Sean Casey only hit more than 20 homers three times in his 11 year career, but did have a really good batting line. 302/367/447/814 You would really like to see more power from your 1st baseman but still very productive overall.

Mark Grace is another type like that… Never hit 20 homers in a 16 year career but still had a line of 303/383/442/825

Shaun

April 24th, 2012
5:21 pm

As of now, I could see something like a Francoeur-for-Church deal happening with Jurrjens, unless he completely turns it around and dominates in the minors, which would also be fine with me.

Bat Masterson

April 24th, 2012
5:22 pm

Derby tip to cricket for his comment at the end of the last blog.

coastalbrave

April 24th, 2012
5:23 pm

1. Michael Bourn (L) CF
2. Martin Prado (R) LF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Brian McCann (L) C
5. Dan Uggla (R) 2B
6. Chipper Jones (S) 3B
7. Jason Heyward (L) RF
8. Tyler Pastornicky (R) SS
9. Mike Minor (R) P

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
5:23 pm

NBA refs are a whole other world compared to MLB umps. I can’t buy into the conspiracy.

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:23 pm

Or Jurrjens for cash considerations.. would be a very small amount of cash.

phil

April 24th, 2012
5:25 pm

Hack Wilson can’t hit major league pitching either….

Or minor league pitching for that matter.

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:25 pm

Hunter Pence of the Phillies missed yesterdays game and is day to day.The Braves really need to take advantage of the banged up Phils.

Heisenberg

April 24th, 2012
5:25 pm

J-Man they are everywhere and are watching you.

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ

April 24th, 2012
5:26 pm

DOB: very good article about JJ. Either he will get going again or not…..

Lineup: Birthday boy batting 6th. Interesting…..

Bat Masterson

April 24th, 2012
5:26 pm

I’m sick to death of video replay reviews.

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ

April 24th, 2012
5:27 pm

OR we could trade JJ for a shortstop that can field, hit, and throw…..but that makes too much sense.

J-Man

April 24th, 2012
5:27 pm

Im not necseearly saying that MLB refs are being bought off but instant replay would make tougher for these Umps to intentionally make bad calls

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
5:28 pm

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack’s BBQ-

If you were an opposing team, would you give up anything at all for JJ? Really?

Heisenberg

April 24th, 2012
5:29 pm

Speaking of Phillies, I saw where Ol Roy is topping out 90-91. Let the velocity debate begin.

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ

April 24th, 2012
5:29 pm

Sure, if he could pass a physical and toss the silly knee brace. But agreed, it would have to be a team in dire need of starting pitching that had a surplus of shortstops.

abeeewright

April 24th, 2012
5:30 pm

JJ will not be traded.

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
5:30 pm

“Hunter Pence of the Phillies missed yesterdays game and is day to day.The Braves really need to take advantage of the banged up Phils.”

And the banged up Nats. No closer. Slow Ryan Zimmerman. No Morse. Still get to play the Bryce Harper card at some point.

reckingball

April 24th, 2012
5:30 pm

J-MAN, We may agree on something once in a blue moon, but I don’t think that I will ever see anything from your point of view. haha.

Woody Woodward

April 24th, 2012
5:30 pm

Cab–we should revive the “trade for Kemp” campaign while we’re at it.

J-Man

April 24th, 2012
5:30 pm

If Carlos Zambrano can be traded then there is still some Value for Jurrjens

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ

April 24th, 2012
5:31 pm

I predicted D Lowe would do well in Cleveland. His sinker just did not sink in Atlanta’s humidity and heat (check the stats) and he will do well up there (until July/August).

Even Hudson has trouble sometimes (hot and humid conditions) getting his pitches to sink.

I don’t have the answer a/b JJ; however, I would start with jettisioning the knee brace.

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
5:31 pm

“OR we could trade JJ for a shortstop that can field, hit, and throw…..but that makes too much sense.”

Like?

Exactly.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
5:31 pm

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack’s BBQ-

Right now, if there was a MLB GM that gave up anything other than maybe a single A player with little promise for JJ, he’d probably be fired. JJ is just not tradable now.

abeeewright

April 24th, 2012
5:32 pm

I’ve already suggested JJ, Livan, Durbin for Pedroia.

Woody Woodward

April 24th, 2012
5:33 pm

We should trade JJ’s knee brace for a shortstop. And throw in a Kawakami jersey.

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
5:33 pm

Halladay must be worried with a 1.50 ERA and a 0.90 WHIP and a 3-1 line that should be 5-0

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
5:34 pm

Woody-

Please let’s not…I may concuss myself if I have to read that over and over again

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
5:34 pm

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:34 pm

If the Braves came out and said, “were willing to eat 90% of Jurrjens remaining contract if you take him” I’m sure a bunch of teams would take the low risk opportunity.

John Adcox

April 24th, 2012
5:34 pm

Now that was a blog. Well written — like the stuff Thomas Boswell crafted back when he used to write things like the lovely “Why Time Begins on Opening Day.” And the human side of the story, Jurrjens’s obvious pain and frustration, comes through so much more vibrantly than it could in an objective report for a newspaper. This kind of article is exactly why we have both a paper AND a blog. And it makes me want to buy more Gwinnett Braves tickets so I can cheer for the rebirth of JJ’s career. Thanks for the backstage pass. That, sir, was a blog.

unbelievable

April 24th, 2012
5:34 pm

OR we could trade JJ for a shortstop that can field, hit, and throw…..but that makes too much sense. – Orange Brave

Yeah Im sure Frank’s phone has been ringing all day. I heard Colorado has offered Tulo for JJ straight up.

southern hope

April 24th, 2012
5:35 pm

John Adcox, great note!

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
5:35 pm

VaBravesFan-

But why would the Braves do that? It does not benefit them at all. It makes more sense to see if JJ can turn it around, either to get him back in the rotation or get at least some value from a trade

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ

April 24th, 2012
5:36 pm

Look, I never said that he is NOW, I am just if we could/ we should. I am not going to be drawn into the trade debate game on the blog. It is simply ridiculous as we: (1) don’t know what Wren is willing to do; and (2) don’t have any clue what other GM’s are thinking or are going to do.

I grow weary of all the debates on here about trades. I merely suggested and inferred (that if possible) the Braves would dispose of a “surplus” property (i.e. starting pitcher who is woefully ineffective) and try to shore up a glaring need on the team right now (productive shortstop).

I give. Uncle. You guys win, JJ is certainly not marketable right now for what the Braves would have to take.

unbelievable

April 24th, 2012
5:36 pm

I’m sure a bunch of teams would take the low risk opportunity. – VABravesFan

TAKE not TRADE for. Big difference.

reckingball

April 24th, 2012
5:36 pm

Wren should JJ, to LA, for Kemp, while we are fantasizing.

unbelievable

April 24th, 2012
5:37 pm

Only if they take Durbin

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
5:38 pm

I thought I was reading JJ for Halladay in a swap of two injured pitchers who have lost their way?

Buddy Landel

April 24th, 2012
5:38 pm

Enrique (Brownsville, TX)

Who do you think is the worst play-by-play man in baseball?

The worst, and ironically the one with the biggest ego is John Sterling. He may also be the worst in the history of basketball.

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
5:38 pm

cab

Oh I agree, I was just throwing that out there for the folks that think no one would want Jurrjens at all.

alanfalcon

April 24th, 2012
5:39 pm

Glad the Braves had the guts to make this move that everyone said they wouldn’t.
I said the other day that JJ needed to go down and rebuild his confidence before it was completely destroyed, if you couldn’t see from the look on his face in the dugout after being pulled and understand that this was a necessary move you just don’t understand the human mind-( remember Yunel Escobar, we had to baby sit him and he never understood until he was traded).

TennesseePaul

April 24th, 2012
5:39 pm

Thanks for the work DOB. Still say you should swing by Philippe’s before the stadium. It’s right there next to it, not out of the way or anything.

GO BRAVES!!

Brave Decisions

April 24th, 2012
5:41 pm

Braves did the right thing by recalling Gearrin http://wp.me/2lqJ1

bigchiefrg

April 24th, 2012
5:42 pm

Good stuff DOB.

Just got the new Jack White album too. Through the first two listens have to say it is pretty solid. Really loving the old school, almost out of tune sounding piano. Wish he’d had used it more with the Stripes

Snotboogie

April 24th, 2012
5:43 pm

dogs

Awesome job by your guys today – Terry aside. ‘grats.

Murph

April 24th, 2012
5:45 pm

Is it pretty much automatic that Gearrin gets sent back down when Hudson is activated or is there even a slim chance that adding him spells doom for Durbin?

Probably not given that Durbin has cut his ERA in half over his last 4 appearances, but one can hope.

unbelievable

April 24th, 2012
5:46 pm

I wonder if JJ tried pitching without that knee brace and those orthopaedic shoes if he’d still think he was fully healthy. They are going to have to fix that knee, the kids not 100% healthy. That brace may help him feel that way.

JNick

April 24th, 2012
5:48 pm

abeeewright – Why do we need another 2nd baseman? And why the hell would Boston make that awful trade?

“Minor is 2-0 with a 0.59 ERA in two night games (his past two starts were at night, after a rough start in a day game at New York in the opening series). Right-handed batters are 7-for-49 (.143) against minor with a .211 OBP and .184 slugging percentage, while lefties are 6-for-18 with a .368 OBP and .444 slugging against the right-hander.”

Pretty sure Minor is a lefty….

phil

April 24th, 2012
5:48 pm

John Sterling is horrifically bad….

Of course Chip ain’t much better!

Fire FG!!

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
5:49 pm

How much of this can we blame on Terry Pendleton?

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
5:50 pm

Mark Grace, while technically not a play by play guy, may be the worst announcer in the game…

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