Braves did right thing sending down Jurrjens

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George

April 24th, 2012
8:21 pm

That cow back of LF looks so silly, but the BRAVES make money on it.

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:25 pm

Great news! Nickelback is coming to SLC in June! Get your tickets folks, they won’t last.

:wink:

Heading off for the pregame fun before the Jazz/Suns game tonight. I’d ask you folks to look for me, but camera’s are not capable of getting a clear shot that far away.

Bo Graves.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
8:27 pm

David O’Brien ‏ @ajcbraves
Hudson’s first two walks of the game load the bases but he strikes out Gimenez to escape. 91 pitches through five scoreless.

nolie

April 24th, 2012
8:28 pm

folks pay to go to Nickleback shows?

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:29 pm

I think it’s interesting how many folks don’t like the cow or the wave or anything that a lot of young folks love about the game.

Last year the cow was the highlight of my nephew’s 3 year old! And two years ago, when my mid 70’s mother was doing the wave at the game on her 56th anniversary, it was the best part of the game for me.

Some folks need to chill……..

David O'Brien

April 24th, 2012
8:29 pm

Braves have Beachy going Wed., Hanson on Friday, Delgado on Sat., Hudson on Sun., Minor on Mon. If Huddy needs extra day, would flip-flop with Minor.

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:30 pm

nolie

My son says if you listen to a Nickelback song backwards, it’s messages from Satan. But worse than that, if you listen to it played forward you hear Nickelback………..

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
8:31 pm

Nickleback suck, just ask us Aussies

:-)

George

April 24th, 2012
8:31 pm

Outta here, I will hold my bearth on every ball hit toward 3rd base, hope the knee holds up. Lets have a good one tonight y’all.

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:32 pm

DOB

Did you get a chance to chat with JJ? Send him our best and tell him we are looking forward to his successful return.

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:33 pm

What do you Aussies know about good music anyway?

:wink:

Couch Tater

April 24th, 2012
8:33 pm

I had a pair of Converse tenor shoes on, when I took a groundball to the crotch. Wore soprano shoes for a few days, afterwards.

David O'Brien

April 24th, 2012
8:34 pm

Fredi G on Jurrjens: ““Tough call all the way around, but obviously it wasn’t the JJ we’ve seen in the past. And you could tell by his frustrations at times, the last three or four starts — even going back to last year, a couple of his last starts. It’s not a health issue; he feels great.

“So like I told him last night, and again this morning before he got on the plane: you’re not the first guy to go down to the minor leagues. Come back up after whatever amount of starts it takes to get fixed, then come back up and have a great, long career in the major leagues. It’s up to him. And we as an organization are going to try to get him back and help us win ballgames in the big leagues.”

“Without going into the details of the conversation we had, or the conversations that have taken place between Marty Reed, Roger and me and Dave Brundage. It’s a big … it’s almost a re-do, the whole thing. And it’s up to him. He needs to buy into whatever we’re going to ask him to do, for him to get back up here. Confidence, arm strength, leg strength, weight training, conditioning, the whole thing. It’s mental – I guess that falls under confidence. He’s going to have to buy into it.”

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:35 pm

MWP got a 7 game suspension. He shoulda got more.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
8:36 pm

David O’Brien ‏ @ajcbraves Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Hudson touched 92 mph on his fastball tonight. mostly 90-91.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
8:37 pm

David O’Brien ‏ @ajcbraves Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Hudson coming back out for the sixth at 91 pitches.

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:37 pm

Let’s hope JJ goes into this with a good attitude.

Later folks.

Thanks DOB.

David O'Brien

April 24th, 2012
8:38 pm

Brandon Beachy on JJ:

“It sucks. It sucks for all of us. But he’s going to work hard, and he’s going to be back here before too long. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s back to that All-Star form and being a leader of this staff again.”

“It’s one of the mysteries of this game. It’s like a reminder to me – I’m not comfortable. I go out there each start knowing it could be my last.”

“It’s a tough thing. I hate to see it happen.”

George

April 24th, 2012
8:38 pm

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:35 pm
MWP got a 7 game suspension. He shoulda got more.
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Yup at leasr rest of season and all playoffs

DS1

April 24th, 2012
8:38 pm

cab

That’s some great velocity for Tim. Let’s hope he is strong for the entire year.

MiaBchBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
8:40 pm

Vans versus Chucks represents the Great Cultural Debate of sneakers, like whether you were a Unitas or Namath fan in the 60’s. It said a LOT about who you were – from politics to social mores.

Me!? Always been a Chuck’s kind of guy, but a pal bought me a pair of Vans way back when, and I kicked around in ‘em. That said, the kicks of choice have always been the hard-core Chuck’s – the punk rock / rockabilly choice of sneakers! :-)

MiaBchBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
8:43 pm

“folks pay to go to Nickleback shows?”

nolie, my respect for you has expanded exponentially!

phil

April 24th, 2012
8:44 pm

me
April 24th, 2012
7:46 pm

@phil I guess you are like all the rest. You love Delgado. You cant win with a pitcher who cant find a strike to the opposing pitcher.

*******
huh?

No kidding about throwing strikes. It helps.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
8:44 pm

David O’Brien ‏ @ajcbraves Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Triple and RBI single to lead off the sixth gives Charlotte its first run off Hudson.

nolie

April 24th, 2012
8:45 pm

New Balance are the real hip shoes….

Mike Berry

April 24th, 2012
8:45 pm

Eric Karabell and Keith Law talk it up about the Braves rotation including the demotion of JJ. He also had some interesting comments about Fredi and Delgado. http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7850523 Start around minute 10.

san diego steve

April 24th, 2012
8:45 pm

Any word about JJ from Roger McDowell? I’d be interested to hear his take on this situation as to if he thinks JJ has a mental block, arm fatigue or a change in mechanics that caused his issues. Hopefully Marty Reed can get him turned around in Gwinnett and back with the big club by the end of June. Should also be noted that JJ is not the only Braves pitcher who has lost velocity under McDowell.

Bravofan

April 24th, 2012
8:47 pm

Ryan Howard is out at least another week. Pence had an MRI on his left non throwing shoulder. we have to make he most of these guys being out.

http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=7851627

phil

April 24th, 2012
8:48 pm

It’s no mystery with JJ….

I said it weeks ago. He’s not in shape.

Look at Hinske.

Apparently large livan and fatsisco are managing ok being slobs, but JJ, while not fat, has been outed for not getting his work in.

Not that he needed to be.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
8:49 pm

Huddy gets a standing O as he leaves game

phil

April 24th, 2012
8:49 pm

Hudson gave up a run….

He isn’t ready. ;-)

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
8:51 pm

David O’Brien ‏ @ajcbraves
That’s it for Hudson, up 2-1 w/ two outs in the sixth. Gave up six hits, two walks, four Ks, 110 pitches, 68 strikes. leaves runner at 3rd

Russell Bell

April 24th, 2012
8:52 pm

He needs to buy into whatever we’re going to ask him [JJ] to do, for him to get back up here. Confidence, arm strength, leg strength, weight training, conditioning, the whole thing.

I remember some talk here last year regarding JJ’s workout ethic. Fredi’s comments make it sound like the organization is concerned about his conditioning – as well as his confidence.

Its almost a re-do. The whole thing.

Interesting…

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
8:53 pm

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Sopheee

April 24th, 2012
8:54 pm

MWP got a 7 game suspension. He shoulda got more.

Fo’ real. At least it impacts their playoff games a bit.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
8:54 pm

David O’Brien ‏ @ajcbraves
Nice catch by Constanza to save Hudson’s runner. Final Hudson lineup: 5 2/3 IP, one earned run. 6 H, 2 BB, 4 Ks. 110 pitches (68 strikes)

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

April 24th, 2012
8:54 pm

tough luck for JJ, but time to cut him loose. we have enough talent in medlen as well as a plethora of prospects in the minors. need to make a play for a LF or SS asap!!

VaBravesFan

April 24th, 2012
8:57 pm

Isn’t this kind of the same situation Dontrell Willis was in? Battled a injury and then was healthy but just couldn’t pitch.

Sopheee

April 24th, 2012
9:00 pm

cab, help me figure out your drawing. I’m obviously missing something.

extremus

April 24th, 2012
9:00 pm

If only the Braves had been in the position to send down Derek Lowe and Kenshin Kawakami when it became evident their continuing to pitch was a serious liability. I guess the differences here are either contractual and/or the fact that Jurrjens still had options, but hopefully the end result will A) be getting Jurrjens back on track with help in the minors and B) not losing uaranteed ground in the division every fifth day.

nolie

April 24th, 2012
9:01 pm

they ain’t all that thrilled with Delgado are they?

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
9:01 pm

Sopheee-

Hold on..gotta grab the iPad and look…

Jeff R

April 24th, 2012
9:01 pm

He [Jurrjens] needs to buy into whatever we’re going to ask him to do, for him to get back up here. Confidence, arm strength, leg strength, weight training, conditioning, the whole thing. It’s mental – I guess that falls under confidence. He’s going to have to buy into it.”

– Fredi as quoted by DOB

Perhaps meaning Jurrjens discipline ain’t what it should be, if I’m reading between the lines correctly.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
9:02 pm

Sopheee-

Help me out, I can’t remember what I drew you (what does it look like?)

Mister Frisky

April 24th, 2012
9:02 pm

Jesus Christ Atlanta.you don’t know what vans are.I’m from Socal but I still know what the Cracker Barrel is.

Sopheee

April 24th, 2012
9:03 pm

I don’t know if it will let you see what you drew but it’s a man with a gray beard and you wrote the ring.

Bravefaninok

April 24th, 2012
9:03 pm

extremus

April 24th, 2012
9:00 pm

If only the Braves had been in the position to send down Derek Lowe and Kenshin Kawakami when it became evident their continuing to pitch was a serious liability. I guess the differences here are either contractual and/or the fact that Jurrjens still had options, but hopefully the end result will A) be getting Jurrjens back on track with help in the minors and B) not losing uaranteed ground in the division every fifth day.

Kawakami spent 2 yrs in the minors….Double A I think.

Sopheee

April 24th, 2012
9:03 pm

It’s a great drawing but I just can’t put two and two together.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
9:04 pm

Sopheee-

Have you seen Lord of the Rings?

Mike Berry

April 24th, 2012
9:04 pm

Nolie…they ain’t all thrilled with Fredi either.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
9:04 pm

It is a crappy drawing :)

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:05 pm

It’s not Socal…

It’s Unocal, you doof.

Steve from OH

April 24th, 2012
9:05 pm

Law makes a point about Jurrjens that a lot of bloggers had made last year and even before then: that he was outperforming the level his stats said he should have been performing at. It’s a really hard sell to the fans (and the rest of the team, for that matter) to trade him in the middle of a pennant race (as Law suggests from last year) but an interesting case study nonetheless.

Not trying to imply correlation=causation in this case, but it’s interesting what has transpired given the previous discussions.

Sopheee

April 24th, 2012
9:05 pm

Ugh, I knew it was something Lord of the Rings. I’ve never seen it. Guess I’ll have to cheat.

nolie

April 24th, 2012
9:05 pm

yeah I got there too Mike

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:07 pm

JJ is lazy and out of shape…

FG admitted what what you could see…

The baggy uniform, no muscle definition…

A lot like McCann.

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
9:08 pm

Mister Frisky

April 24th, 2012
9:09 pm

Phil,WTF is Unocal.

Sopheee

April 24th, 2012
9:10 pm

I got it.

I cheated. Shame on me.

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:10 pm

A gas type, frisky….

I was being ridiculous.

And cab, i was kidding about mac…though his uniform IS baggy!

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
9:10 pm

I’ll forgive you :D

Knows Worts

April 24th, 2012
9:11 pm

Why in the world did they start J.J. last night?

cabravesfan

April 24th, 2012
9:12 pm

Mister Frisky-

Unocal is 76 out here :)

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:13 pm

They started JJ because they wanted him to fail so he would be demoted and miss chipper’s 40th birthday beer bash….

tiger297

April 24th, 2012
9:13 pm

holy crap brekky’s computer works after 6:00 PM…

Mister Frisky

April 24th, 2012
9:14 pm

@Phil,Got it I’m familiar with the petro.It’s all bueno.

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:15 pm

Beer is the reason JJ is sitting in Gwinnett tonight….

Hanson has a similar baggy uniform, expanding gut and fastball losing velocity.

So far, he’s ok, but the lazy habits aren’t a good sign.

Sopheee

April 24th, 2012
9:16 pm

No Vans for JJ.

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
9:16 pm

tiger297 – Feds only monitor between 9am-1pm tiger son

but Chelskeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa won the biggest soccer game since WC 2010 today, so all is good, even if my ticker aint

brian

April 24th, 2012
9:16 pm

if Jurrjens showed any sort of progress last night, he would not have been sent down. Last night made the decision straight forward. For Jurrjens to salvage his season and possibly his career, he needs to go to AAA and work some things out

Mike Berry

April 24th, 2012
9:16 pm

Steve from OH…what do you think their point was about Fredi Gonzalez? Is he really that looked down upon as a ML Manager???

Mister Frisky

April 24th, 2012
9:16 pm

Thanks Cabravesfan,Unoin 76 I know it well.

Skeezix

April 24th, 2012
9:16 pm

So far this year, as opposed to last year, the Filly Fans have been quiet; which is a very good thing.

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:17 pm

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
9:19 pm

Beer input does not equal inverse velocity on fastball per Heisenburg

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:21 pm

The Heisenburg was a terrible tragedy…when was that again?

tiger297

April 24th, 2012
9:21 pm

how does scotch fit in that calculation?

nolie

April 24th, 2012
9:23 pm

I think he is looked down on as a manager by guys like Law and Karabell, less so by traditionalists

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:23 pm

Can the Hawks avoid the choke?

J-Man

April 24th, 2012
9:25 pm

Well I think they are gonna give Pastornicky 3 weeks to get that Avg. over .200 Then I think they will make a deal for a Cheap SS

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
9:25 pm

4 consecutive 2 out walks by 4 different Miami pitchers ties the game 1-1 in the 7th. Wow.

Sopheee

April 24th, 2012
9:25 pm

Let’s hope so, lowercase phil but as far as the playoffs are concerned – consider me a doom and gloomer.

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
9:25 pm

Goodnight Y’all. Go BARVES

nolie

April 24th, 2012
9:26 pm

“Oh the humanity”….do you mean the Hindenburg? 1937 if so

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:26 pm

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
9:27 pm

Law is a filthy loser turd burglaaaaaaaaa, but that is just my ARROGANT opinion… Keith Law you are an arrogant, ignorant terddddddd burglahhhhhhhhh

J-Man

April 24th, 2012
9:27 pm

Many national media members such as Eric Karabell and Keith Law have come out and said that they dont think Fredi is a good Manager but then again those are just opinions……which I share

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
9:28 pm

I was there for the Hindenburg. Had my Bad Company playing on the 8 track…

nolie

April 24th, 2012
9:28 pm

KLaw has been pretty nice about Braves prospects for a while now, but that will end soon with all the call ups

J-Man

April 24th, 2012
9:29 pm

Turg Burglar……I havent heard that since Beavis and Butthead

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
9:29 pm

Law on Maddox (1997) – too small to be a good SP despite the 4 straight Cy Young awards… he only won cause I couldnt find a way to give ‘em to NY or filthy Boston

phil

April 24th, 2012
9:29 pm

Agreed, Sopheee….sigh.

Yep, nolie….a bad day for hydrogen.

J-Man

April 24th, 2012
9:29 pm

Enter your comments hereTurd burglar

nolie

April 24th, 2012
9:29 pm

most of those folks are sabergeeks who say that

count_schemula

April 24th, 2012
9:29 pm

World Peace gets 7 ban. LOL

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
9:30 pm

Of course we got Maddux for Maddox who was a below avg NFL passer

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

April 24th, 2012
9:30 pm

even chip was pointing out that JJ had no movement on his fastballs, just right down the middle. kid has lost it mentally…..reminds me of Salty- although he finally got it together albeit with a different team.

tiger297

April 24th, 2012
9:30 pm

doggie rolling this evening

nolie

April 24th, 2012
9:32 pm

I’d hardly say that Salty has gotten anything together

DogsBrekky

April 24th, 2012
9:32 pm

night night southern folk and J-Man

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