Braves’ win streak snapped after Delgado serves up slam

PHOENIX – There aren’t many things one imagines could go terribly wrong after a decision to walk a batter with two outs and first base open, in order to face a [far] lesser hitter with the bases loaded.

But what happened to the Braves Sunday was just about the worst of those things.

Rookie Randall Delgado walked Arizona pitcher Ian Kennedy on four pitches to bring in the tying run, and two pitches later Gerardo Parra hit a grand slam that sent the Diamondbacks to a 6-4 win at Chase Field, snapping the Braves’ five-game winning streak.

“I was trying to be perfect,” Delgado said. “That was a big mistake.”

The Diamondbacks snapped a five-game losing skid and averted a four-game series sweep by the Braves, who will continue their two-city trip in Los Angeles on Monday with the opener of a three-game series against the NL West leaders at Dodger Stadium.

The Braves got three hits from leadoff man Michael Bourn, an RBI double from Martin Prado and ninth-inning homer from backup third baseman Juan Francisco, his third in only 28 at-bats.

But they were thwarted in a couple of other scoring opportunities when Brian McCann lined into a double play with runners at second and third and pinch-hitter Chipper Jones grounded into a double play.

It may have been the last major league start for a while for Delgado (2-1), who’s expected to be sent to Triple-A Gwinnett when Tim Hudson is activated from the disabled list and inserted into the starting rotation Sunday or Monday against Pittsburgh. With an off day in the schedule Thursday, the Braves won’t have to use Delgado again unless they want to give other pitchers an extra day of rest.

Delgado learned a lesson the hard way in his second loss in 10 major league starts, and only the second loss for the Braves in 12 games.

“That’s a young pitcher,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “A young pitcher that needs to mature and get in those situations and don’t let the innings get away from him.”

The 22-year-old Panamanian’s composure and mound demeanor have been strengths since he reached the majors a year ago, but Delgado faltered briefly Sunday and couldn’t stop the second inning from spiraling. This after he’d been staked to a 1-0 lead on Freddie Freeman’s first-inning sacrifice fly, and after Delgado was just one strike from getting out of the second inning with nobody on base.

Jason Kubel singled on an 0-and-2 pitch to start the rally. Then Cody Ransom doubled. Then Delgado fell behind 2-and-0 against No. 8 hitter Ian McDonald, and Gonzalez decided to have Delgado intentionally walk him at that point with first base open.

“It’s a situation where we’re not trying to give McDonald anything to hit,” Gonzalez said. “It’s early in the game, we’ve got a 1-nothing lead, but you don’t want him to throw a breaking ball in the dirt – which happened almost – and let it get away. So take it out of Delgado’s hands, put it in my hands, and let him face Kennedy. Which … that didn’t happen either.”

Four straight pitches to Kennedy were out of the strike zone, to the delight of many in a crowd of 28,679 – the ones who weren’t among thousands cheering loudly for the Braves throughout the series.

“Talking to Mac [catcher Brian McCann], he said he missed by a lot,” Gonzalez said of the pitches to Kennedy. “I haven’t seen the replay.”

Delgado might not want to see it anytime soon.

“Just thinking of how I worked the pitcher … I shouldn’t do that,” he said. “I was trying to be perfect.”

Gonzalez: “And the next thing you know we’re starting down at a grand slam.”

The slam put the Braves behind by four runs, but the game wasn’t over. Not with the way the Braves have played lately, averaging seven runs per game during their 11-game surge before Sunday.

Delgado retired 10 of the next 12 batters, with only two hit batsmen reaching base in that period. He was replaced after issuing consecutive one-out walks in the sixth inning, which is a lot longer than anyone might have expected he’d last following the second-inning debacle.

“I thought Randall showed everybody a lot today about his mental makeup,” Braves second baseman Dan Uggla said. “He had a few mistakes that one inning and that was it, that was all they got. He really came out and bounced back and battled and gave us a chance to come back and win that ballgame.

“It’s very easy to fold after an inning like that. And he didn’t. He kept his composure and he battled, and really showed some mental toughness.”

152 comments Add your comment

Joe for 3

April 22nd, 2012
9:28 pm

Can’t win em all.

quack quack

April 22nd, 2012
9:36 pm

You’re right Joe. Now lets put this behind us and get after LA. GO BRAVES!!

tim

April 22nd, 2012
9:37 pm

the young man is going to be fine good experience for him. I remember a couple guys named Smoltz and Glavine getting their lumps too when they first came up, I think they turned out okay.

GoBravos124

April 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm

If the gutless man?ager would get off his butt and support his players, they just might rally like they did when Bobby bounced out after controversial “outs”. This dude must be afraid of getting tossed! How many times are the players getting bad calls and HE just keeps sitting there not even asking for someone else’ view of the play? It UPSETS me and I’m sure Bourn would like to know someone has his back lest these calls keep happening since no one cares! He actually doesn’t deserve the title of manager because he DOES NOTHING to inspire the team . . . always the opposite. Almost like he is supporting the foe instead when he does nothing but hide in the dugout.

AtlantaMelo

April 22nd, 2012
9:55 pm

Giving up the hit with an 0-2 count is a pet peave of mine. I like this kid a LOT. I think he’s going to turn into something special. But for me, there’s no excuse for giving up an 0-2 hit with pitches to waste. He did pull it together and battle after the rotten inning, there is something to be said about that.

Who Me?

April 22nd, 2012
9:55 pm

Keep Delgado here, let him spot-start – release Durbin….

chris

April 22nd, 2012
10:04 pm

GoBravos im with you a bit about Fredi- i like Fredi but it drives me nuts sometime he does not back his players up out there in public. Bobby would have lit the stadium on fire today after that crap ass call in the fifth which in retrospect may have been bigger than the grand slam. If Bourn is safe that inning continues and who knows…I miss hearing Bobby from the side rooting his players on too. I know Fredi can’t be Bobby Cox but a little public encouragement I think would go a long way…maybe its style I dont know..but he dont show much emotion for sure

Old Dawg Fan

April 22nd, 2012
10:07 pm

I am glad the Braves are winning but what bothers me is that FG seems gutless!!! Worst call I have seen since last baseball season-Bourn was safe but FG does nothing. The call was not even close!!! This is a big reason i do not care for the Braves!

J-MAN

April 22nd, 2012
10:08 pm

I think Delgado pitched good today he just f*ucked up in the 2nd inning, but I think he just was think of being sent back to the minors and tried to make perfect pitches

Chris

April 22nd, 2012
10:17 pm

Fredi is no bobby valentine, but i do agree that he isnt all there…..

bostonbravo

April 22nd, 2012
10:50 pm

Fredi should just quit & become a kindergarten teacher…twerp

iTiSi

April 22nd, 2012
10:55 pm

To echo the sentiments of others, I honestly believe if I had been standing behind FG on that call at second base with Bourne, I would have put my sharp-toed #12 cowboy boot right up his rear and said “get your @#@$@%$ out there, you wimp”! I have come to the conclusion he doesn’t want to get thrown out no matter what because he won’t be totally in charge of what is going on, be it right or wrong. I will bet that 2nd base ump was looking around expecting to see Bobby Cox charging at him any moment! Then he breathed a sigh of relief when he realized the “statue”, or the “robot” or “Mr. Wimpy” was now the manager.

iTiSi

April 22nd, 2012
11:00 pm

OH, BTW, the Braves are not winning a lot because of FG, they are doing it in spite of him. Just give it a few days or couple of months. If the Braves make it even into the playoffs this year, go ahead and call it a “miracle” because with FG at the helm that’s what it will be.

Joseph Durbin

April 22nd, 2012
11:08 pm

Durbin is coming around and deserves the spot. He had a bad start to the season after being jerked around by Washington, then getting to fly home to have his second son, to be jerked around by Washington in making him come back the next day. He then came to Atlanta in a rush.
He will be fine and has much more experience in situational pitching. I love the idiot fans that do not get the long term picture when a pitcher is young and throwing him to the wolves will have more of a negative effect than a positive effect. Go Braves!

hiway 61

April 22nd, 2012
11:13 pm

Braves win streak stopped after Delgado gives up slam…Delgado was not the only reason Braves lost. It sounds like it was all his fault. If I remember there were several that contributed to the lose including the manager.
Uggla said it right,one bad inning. He kept his composure, battled never quit. Real class for the kid…lets remember this is a team effort. I don’t blame the kid. Braves should have won!
Get’em tomorrow.
Agree Fredi needs to take up for his players..two times in two days Bourn was safe at 2nd and where was FG when he was called out? No where to be found.

Brian

April 22nd, 2012
11:22 pm

Wish Fredi would somehow read this, but for the sake of everything holy, get some emotion dude!!!! When you never come out of the dugout to argue a call or just sit there and take crap umpiring behind the plate, its says to your squad you lack the guts it takes to be a leader. I fear the Bravos are winning some in spite of him.

B

fredi

April 22nd, 2012
11:35 pm

Oh, I couldn’t see the play with Bourn..lol

Runnin

April 22nd, 2012
11:53 pm

“Served up” is pretty tough language. I’m sure he wasn’t trying to give up the slam.

Who Me?

April 23rd, 2012
12:18 am

@Joseph Durbin – you may be right. But at THIS point in the season, I’d still rather have Delgado on my bench than Durbin. You’ve got Medlen and a host of others for long relief.

go-BRAVOS

April 23rd, 2012
12:29 am

I’m not a big Fredi G fan and understand about standing up for your players BUT these guys are professional athletes making at the least 400K+ a year. If they need the manager to go out and act like an idiot on the field and get ejected to get fired up and try and win the game then we got big problems.
As Fredi said after the game, no call has every been overturned no matter how bad it was or what the manager said. Just be professional, have class and represent the Braves with dignity and respect.

GO BRAVES!

fredi

April 23rd, 2012
12:33 am

yea right Bravos

Don

April 23rd, 2012
12:41 am

Ok – Mr. Managerial Guru, I agree 100% with the walk to get to the pitcher, but why in this world did either you or Roger give off your lazy butts and go to the mound for a quick chat when he through the FIRST ball to Kennedy. That one is entirely on your shoulders, at least have Mac go out and try to calm things down. But instead you sit on your butt watching the guy go up in smoke on the pitcher and what did you do then?? Again, everyone sits on their butts even after the first ball to the next batter is thrown. I just do not get it, was their great food being served in the dugout or what?? You set him up to fail and guess what, he did.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
1:14 am

Braves Juggernaut hits a speed bump, put the pedal back to the metal.
go braves

J-MAN

April 23rd, 2012
2:14 am

You sometimes get these clunker games at least they showed soemthing in this game. I wish the Manager would have though. I’m just wanting for once whe we get a bad call to go out and lose it on an Ump……..well actually the thing I want to see it true instant replay. Becaus egetting the play right is what matters. We can do it like they do football. Give the manager 2 challenges and any play thats not ball or strikes can be challenged. It would put an end to manager and ump arguments and it actually would speed up the game. from that aspect and fans will have a better integrity of the game. Because what is to really stop an Ump to blow some calls on purpose……If it can happen in the NBA then it can happen in MLB with more umps and games to do so in there is a bigger opprunity for an umpire to throw a game……Not that im accusing anyone

J-MAN

April 23rd, 2012
2:19 am

You sometimes get these clunker games at least they showed something in this game. I wish the Manager would have though. I’m just wanting for once whe we get a bad call and have Fredi to go out and lose it on an Ump……..well actually the thing I want to see it true instant replay. Because getting the play right is what really matters. We can do it like they do football. Give the manager 2 challenges and any play thats not ball or strikes can be challenged. It would put an end to manager and ump arguments and it actually would speed up the game. from that aspect and fans will have a better integrity of the game. Because what is to really stop an Ump to blow some calls on purpose……If it can happen in the NBA then it can happen in MLB with more umps and games to do so in there is a bigger opportunity for an umpire to throw a game……Not that im accusing anyone

J-MAN

April 23rd, 2012
2:21 am

Instant replay would devalue the umpire it would make them better. Instant replay is available and should be used.

J-MAN

April 23rd, 2012
2:22 am

Instant replay would NOT devalue the umpire it would make them better. Instant replay is available and should be used.

scott brantley

April 23rd, 2012
6:49 am

Hey you guys, EASY on Freddi. OK? Just because he doesn’t show as much emotion as Cox doesn’t mean he’s not a good manager. I, too, would like to see him get out and argue with the umps more often. He, like Cox, requires of his players accountability, hustle, and playing of the game the right way. I’m behind Freddi all the way. Go Braves!

jd56

April 23rd, 2012
7:10 am

Experience is going to get these guys farther. The MLB has turned into a 21 to 25 year old game and it has ruined the game for people to have players they can follow. Don’t turn 30 because you are an old man. Every team today seems to have fans that want the young guys. If you are so much into young guys go see some Single A games. I do not know if it is money related or not, but just a few years ago you would have fans praising players like Chipper and older players. Not the fans might chear in the stands, but the couch potatoe, wanna be players sit back and just rip the older players for the younger players. Maybe it is because I am 50 plus and get tired of looking at the faces of 12 year olds out there.

Delgado, has no balls.

April 23rd, 2012
7:26 am

Way to go Delgado. Walk the pitcher on 4 straight balls. Leads to YOUR LOSS.. YOU SUCK. Send him PACKING.

longtimefan

April 23rd, 2012
7:39 am

Who Me?- They want Delgado pitching every fifth day. Either he’s in Braves starting rotation or he’s in AAA. He has to work to get better.

Really?

April 23rd, 2012
7:45 am

@Delgado, has no balls ….. you have no class. If you were on the mound throwing in the first ceremonial pitch you would be one of those that bounces the ball a couple of times before it gets there. Likely you never competed at high levels in any sport. What a jerk. Really!

Scroggy 7

April 23rd, 2012
7:46 am

I’d really like to David Ross catching every Delgado start. Big McCann fan, but don’t think there is any doubt Ross calls a better game, is a calming influence for a young pitcher and is a better defensive catcher. I’ve given up hopes that he (Ross) will bring a first base mitt to spring training to be able to be a right handed option on days Freeman needs a day off. Just wish he was utilized more somehow.
Don’t you have to at least discuss the Bourn play at second with the umpire? Don’t have to tear out spittin’ and screamin’. Close call, no doubt, but you have to set the tone for the next close call going your way.

ccrider

April 23rd, 2012
8:08 am

GOBRAVES124 & OLD DAWG FAN, couldn’t agree more!!! haven’t watched them since the 3rd game of the season and won’t ’til the frediot is GONE

dean

April 23rd, 2012
8:19 am

Maybe I’m wrong, but before a manager trots out to argue a call I thought they took their cue from the player. Initially, I thought Bourn was safe at second. He didn’t argue hence Fredi didn’t bother. (The replay showed, in my opinion, that either call would have been acceptable.)

BTW, since the Braves lost a game, who gets fired today?

Charlie

April 23rd, 2012
8:20 am

Fredi G. is the laziest loser in baseball. He didn’t even move, after the blown call at second, that cost a run. Way to be into the game. What a slug. Get off your dead ass, and act like you’re aware of your surroundings. It appears that Fredi’s 2012 bullpen strategy is that whenever the Braves are behind in a game, he’ll call on Durbin, Hernandex, and Martinez…a move that will always put the Braves further behind, and remove all possibility of winning. Fredi is the saddest excuse for a manager, since Bobby Valentine.

tp

April 23rd, 2012
8:21 am

Dan Uggla may be the world’s best teammate … ever.

jd56

April 23rd, 2012
8:24 am

Those who think putting Delgado in the pen are also not thinking about the future of this pitcher. The pen is a different mind set, a different way of preparing to pitch and a completely different pitching philosophy. A starter needs to stay in the game inning by inning inching closer to the finish. You throw him into a pen spot and unless he is only a long man for when another pitcher goes down early, you are screwing around with his and the teams future. Many pitchers in the pen throw bullets, get a mentality of I have to throw gas to get everyone out. A starter is coming out there with a chess game of what is the batter expecting, relying on a catcher who has studied every batter to be the quarterback and the pitcher the ball…..! Odd but true your catcher makes or breaks the game. Do not mess with Delgado. Too many starters get thrown in the pen, when a few weeks in AAA would have them back on track.

Ralph

April 23rd, 2012
8:34 am

Scroggy 7 believ

April 23rd, 2012
7:46 am

Couldn’t agree more, we will never know but I think if Ross hd been catching him none of this would have happened, Delgado after his previous start expressed his confidence in Ross and Ross would have went out and talked to him as soon as he got two balls on the pitcher.

panamajack

April 23rd, 2012
8:35 am

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panamajack

April 23rd, 2012
8:42 am

Randall can definately pitch, he just went through a mental lapse and needed some encouragement from the catcher and pitching coach, all of which he did not get. He doesn’t show emotion on the mound but he is still human. Most other pitchers would have been done in that situation but he righted himself and pitched good after that.

CMC

April 23rd, 2012
9:00 am

ccrider,

Glad we have real fans like you out there. Shame you haven’t been watching since you gave up on the team after 4 games. You’ve missed some great baseball. Since you haven’t been paying attention, Braves are 10-2 in the past 12 games. Yeah, let’s fire the manager. Next time offer something to the blog of which you have a clue.

alanfalcon

April 23rd, 2012
9:02 am

Face it, Randall was being to cute for his on good, he didn’t want the opposing pitcher to show him up so instead of pitching to get the guy out he cost himself and the team a win by trying to throw trash pitches thinking the opposing pitcher would swing at anything.

Mako

April 23rd, 2012
9:07 am

DOB….Gonzo showed why he didn’t deserve another year in the 5th inning…..will somebody please tell him to get off his duff

Larry

April 23rd, 2012
9:18 am

Passive defined:

1. not reacting visibly to something that might be expected to produce manifestations of an emotion or feeling.

2. not participating readily or actively; inactive

3. not involving visible reaction or active participation: to play a passive role.

So, what MLB manager best fits this definition?

Larry

April 23rd, 2012
9:20 am

And let’s take a pole on who’s confident that JJ will pitch past the 5th inning against the Dodgers lineup tonight?

Crickets……..

me

April 23rd, 2012
9:24 am

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
9:33 am

That was a very strange performance by the HP umpire during the DBack pitcher’s AB, and should be investigated by whoever is over the umpires at MLB.
At one point in the AB, the ump hand-signaled that the count was 0-2.

Gene

April 23rd, 2012
9:57 am

I enjoyed seeing Bobby going after the umpires, but I don’t remember them ever changing a call. It certainly added some emotion to the game. Delgado is going to be a good pitcher, and Bourn’s play is out of sight. JJ has a chance to prove himself tonight. If not, I hope that Fredi takes him out before he puts another game out of reach.

Ranger Randy

April 23rd, 2012
9:59 am

So, a call doesn’t go your way and you’re a “twerp” for not charging onto the field and throwing a hissy fit for all the world to see? How mature. Is this the message we want to send to our kids? Did a manager’s arguing with an umpire ever change anything? Oh, I forgot: it “sends a message”. Yes, it surely does that.

extremus

April 23rd, 2012
10:01 am

If Delgado can finally get past that “one bad inning” syndrome he’s been stuck in, he’ll be okay. But boy, so far he’s been hounded by it repeatedly.

urban redneck

April 23rd, 2012
10:03 am

delgado has good stuff. we should have thought of trading teheran for four or five good prospects. i’m not saying we should have done it, but we should have at least listened to offers on the big four last year.

Chuck

April 23rd, 2012
10:21 am

Braves almost pulled it out even after Delgado had the bad inning. McCann hit his double-play ball hard up the middle into the shift, and Bourne was safe. Many other times the DBs just made great plays after the Braves put the ball in play really hard. Good game. The DBs got lucky and had to play a great game to get the win. Not bad for the Braves!

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
10:32 am

Ever heard the phrase, “Don’t Thread On Me”, it was on the first US Navy Jack.
I believe, that if you let people keep walking all over you, then eventually you will have a mud puddle in your azz.
On the Bourn, called out at 2nd play yesterday, if your player gets up and argues with the ump, then the manager should get out their and take over, and let the umpire know, that he thinks, that the ump made the wrong call.
Fredi said that Bourn didn’t argue(perhaps some of the players don’t think that there is a any use in arguing, because they will not get any backup from him), or even know if he was out or not.
That call was a bad call, and could very possibly have changed the outcome of the game.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
10:37 am

The DBacks made some good defensive plays and caught a break from the umps.
If the Braves continue to win 10 out of every 12 for the rest of the season, I think that they might be in good shape at the end of the year.

Dawgdad (The Original)

April 23rd, 2012
10:50 am

You just gotta tip your cap to that second base ump for making a tough call.

Rufino Linares

April 23rd, 2012
10:53 am

Oh my God! There should be a requirement that one should know at least a little about sports before posting on a sports blog.

Blaming a manager for a loss because he doesn’t complain about a close call? Are you serious? Don’t give me the garbage that the umpire knows he won’t complain, so we aren’t getting the close calls. These umpires are the best of the best, and they are NOT going to allow the ranting of a manager to dictate any future calls. And if human nature kicks in and they DO allow a little pressure to dictate their decision on a close call, it is 50/50 for and against the ranting manager. If anything, an overly-emotional manager tends to cause more harm than good over the course of 162 games. The calls that “don’t go your way” will not spiral into more trouble if you keep an even-keel approach. You folks see Valentine and Guillen being flamboyant out there and you think that is “real” managing. When the horse is dead, it is going to stay dead. Arguing about it just angers people and takes the focus away from trying to battle through it. Instead, you start to rationalize and make excuses. Fredi does it the “right” way.

Spiro T

April 23rd, 2012
11:05 am

I still can’t believe Fredi didn’t stick up for Bourne on that terrible call at second base. Bobby would have been all over that ump. It was a game changer for the Braves offense. Come on Fredi! The fans and players love to see a manager get on umps when they screw up.

Let's Go

April 23rd, 2012
11:15 am

I’ve always thought arguing with the umpire was dumb whenever a manager just went out to argue. Come on, it’s not like he’s going to change his call and if anything it could tick him off and the next time he’s behind the plate your pitcher is going to get a real small strike zone. Protecting a player who is arguing is different, thats a managers responsibility but just going out and jawing to show someone up is stupid. Also, arguing calls on the road does nothing but get the home crowd into the game more.

Felix

April 23rd, 2012
11:23 am

I miss old Earl Weaver–now that guy knew how to chew out an ump.

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Felix

April 23rd, 2012
11:37 am

I think the Dodgers will be a good test……….it is on the road, L.A. is a good team and playing really well right now.

Felix

April 23rd, 2012
11:43 am

When Delgado walked the Snakes’s pitcher, I agree that the homeplate umpire’s behavior was odd. The first two pitches sure looked like strikes and it looked to me (and others) like he had called them strikes. I think Degado thought he had an 0-2 count.

Again-where was Fredi, the Braves fearless leader?

iTiSi

April 23rd, 2012
11:53 am

I don’t know who is more stoic and passive when it comes to umpire’s bad calls, FG or the AJC sportswriters? Have any of them ever asked Fredi why he shows no emotions or even questions a really bad call? Not that I know of. There’s an expression “the squeaky wheel gets the oil” and I know one manager in particular that says arguing a bad call does help down the road.

Let's Go

April 23rd, 2012
12:41 pm

tp @ 8:21am
“Dan Uggla may be the world’s best teammate … ever.”

I agree 100%. I think Dan is going to be the one who steps up and takes over the leadership on this ball club. He won’t upstage Chipper this year but next year it’s going to be his team.

DawgDad

April 23rd, 2012
12:44 pm

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DawgDad

April 23rd, 2012
12:57 pm

“I think Dan is going to be the one who steps up and takes over the leadership on this ball club.”

Let’s see what Dan can do this year first. From my vantage point he still has a LOT to prove. Lot’s of dollar bills, millions and millions, flowing out the door for his .240 average. Is he a good veteran presence in the clubhouse? Probably, but he doesn’t get paid for personality.

Bill D.

April 23rd, 2012
12:58 pm

How in the hell can a major league umpire miss a call like he did at second when he is right on top of it.If these guys are the best it makes you wonder what the rest must be. No excuse for that call. I hope these sad sacks are being graded by someone.

me

April 23rd, 2012
1:02 pm

Remember Bill D That is Joe West crew. He made a statement about a year ago that he does not like braves. Enough said.

BravingtheStorm

April 23rd, 2012
1:10 pm

Why does Fredi sit Jason in this game? If you’re going to give him a rest, why not give him a day off against the two lefties Saunders and Capuano? That’s bad managing in my book.

74bravesjersey

April 23rd, 2012
1:11 pm

I think Delgado is mature enough to learn & go pass this, the good , the bad, the ugly which is what we take in everyday life. His upside is still strong & he’ll use this as motivation.

me

April 23rd, 2012
1:18 pm

Hello 74braves jersey Most of the time, I agree with you. Not this time buddy. Any Pitcher that can not throw a strike to a pitcher is not worth keeping. If FW is smart he releases him immediately. He is a waste of money.

59bulldawg

April 23rd, 2012
1:21 pm

What’s his ERA now? It was mid-4s when he started yesterday. He’s still got a ways to go before he’s consistently reliable starter. But hey, he’s only 22.

steve

April 23rd, 2012
1:24 pm

I thought we should have never walked the 8th place hitter to load the bases and to me the pitcher attempted to bunt the first pitch, Delgado did give up a grand slam but other then that he was great, the Bourne call screwed us badly because we would have scored one more run and possibly more because there would have been only 1 out instead of 2 so we could have had a really big inning, F.G. needs to at least go out and ask about the call at 2nd when you see your player react to a missed call.

Larry

April 23rd, 2012
1:24 pm

Ranger Randy

April 23rd, 2012
9:59 am

So, a call doesn’t go your way and you’re a “twerp” for not charging onto the field and throwing a hissy fit for all the world to see? How mature. Is this the message we want to send to our kids? Did a manager’s arguing with an umpire ever change anything? Oh, I forgot: it “sends a message”. Yes, it surely does that.

Ranger, huh?

No, you certainly don’t have to make a fool of yourself but would having a manager with and least a pulse help?

Larry

April 23rd, 2012
1:27 pm

This was a winnable game where a good game manager could make a difference. Be sure and add these up in the rare occurrence come September we miss the playoffs by only one game.

Oh, wait…

me

April 23rd, 2012
1:31 pm

@steve When he walked the pitcher, Fg should have taken him out right then. If he cannot throw a strike to a PITCHER then he is worthless. RELEASE him NOW.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
1:35 pm

“If FW is smart he releases him(Delgado) immediately.”

You have got to be kidding.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
1:38 pm

“Let’s see what Dan can do this year first.”

OK. I will point out that he has had the game winning RBI hits, in 2 games, thus far this season.

me

April 23rd, 2012
1:38 pm

Not kidding, If you cannot throw a strike to a pitcher then you have no business being paid to pitch. He is worthless and he proved it.

AZBravoFan

April 23rd, 2012
1:46 pm

Holy cow! Did the Braves not just take 3 of 4 from the D’backs? Reading the comments you’d think we were back to the 0-4 start! Nobody is going 162-0. Would you guys rather be dealing with Bobby V. and his circus right now?

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
1:48 pm

@10:53……If you don’t think that questioning an umpires bad call can have a positive effect for the team(that does the questioning), at some point later in the game, or succeeding games, then I guess you have not watched a whole lot of the games that I have watched, when it most certainly did have a favorable impact on some close plays(for the questioning team).
The manager does not have to go out and be tossed, sometimes just going out and talking to the ump helps.

Rufino Linares

April 23rd, 2012
1:48 pm

Unrelated statistic: Today is the 58th anniversary of Hank Aaron’s first big league home run…all of which count in my book.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
1:50 pm

It’s called a discussion, exchanging different ideas and viewpoints.

AZBravoFan

April 23rd, 2012
1:51 pm

Sure it was a winnable game. If Mac doesn’t hit into a double play, it’s a big inning. If Bourn is called safe at second, probably a big inning. I was at the game, he was clearly safe, but hey, calls are missed sometimes. Fredi coming out and tossing his cap around wasn’t going to change that. And a big hit after that still could have resulted in a run. I thought they did well to battle back, but AZ battled as well. Again, you can’t win them all. Just go win a series in LA

phil

April 23rd, 2012
1:52 pm

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
1:52 pm

“Not kidding.”
I have no comments.

phil

April 23rd, 2012
1:55 pm

me

April 23rd, 2012
1:38 pm

Not kidding, If you cannot throw a strike to a pitcher then you have no business being paid to pitch. He is worthless and he proved it.
*************
The Braves are not paying Delgado for yesterday’s performance for that very reason. Your complaint is the reason.

Thanks for making sure we knew how pathetic this really was.

Rufino Linares

April 23rd, 2012
1:56 pm

No. If you think that questioning a call is going to have an impact on future calls, then you are one of these “sports fans” that buys into the misconceptions that stupid people tend to feed to each other. Any positive effect that is possibly gained, will be balanced out by any negative impact that it will cause. Plus, it takes focus away from what the focus needs to be on… the next pitch and the next play. Questioning a call simply gives a team and athlete an opportunity to have an excuse. Over 162 games, you can’t get into a “blame” game with officials/umpires/referees in any sport.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
1:58 pm

The Snakes got some breaks, and they played some pretty good D.
The Braves still played very good, and the hitters made good contact.
You win some, you lose some.
I’ll take 10 wins out of every 12 games all summer long. haha.

The Juggernaut is still rolling.
Go Braves!!! Yeaaaa team!!

phil

April 23rd, 2012
2:01 pm

Technically, we could win them all.

The guys are paid to win EVERY game, not just some of them, or a few of them or most of them.

ALL of them.

And since we’ve lost 6 games already this year, some heads should roll.

Start with FG!!

me

April 23rd, 2012
2:03 pm

phil, That was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. Then for a manager leaving him in the game was even more pathetic. Release Delgado and fire Gonzales for there pathetic performances.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
2:04 pm

“Any positive effect that is possibly gained, will be balanced out by any negative impact that it will cause.” ???

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
2:06 pm

what negative impact will it cause?

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
2:07 pm

dang it phil, you are so smart.

Knowsworts

April 23rd, 2012
2:08 pm

Yeah, they have been winning but I wouldn’t get my hopes up people. Stay skeptical. Otherwise, these Braves will just tear your hearts out. Remember September.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
2:08 pm

got to check out.

reckingball

April 23rd, 2012
2:10 pm

Had to come back, “yeah they have been winning”…..My advice, enjoy it while it is happening.

bye

me

April 23rd, 2012
2:13 pm

If you want to keep that pathetic piece of trash, you are guaranteed a loss. Good luck on making playoffs. it wont happen as long as you got that so called pitcher and so called manager. Get rid of them NOW.

Ozzie G.; Marlins Manager

April 23rd, 2012
2:20 pm

Comrades: My favorite fellow communists are:
Marx
Engels
Lenin
Stalin
Kruschev
Castro
Chavez

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