Braves quotes after Monday’s loss to Mets

***FREDI GONZALEZ

On pitching around and walking Wright to get to Davis

“I think it was … I know it was the right decision, he just left a breaking ball over the plate and he hit it out. That was the name of the ball game. One pitch. But I thought overall Tommy was very good. He did a nice job for us, gave us seven innings. We just didn’t score runs like we had been against Milwaukee.

“Go out tomorrow and start a new winning streak.”

On Hanson’s performance

“He pitched seven innings. I thought we might try to push him to eight, but his pitch count got a little too high there at the end. But he did a nice job. That’s three outings in a row from our starters who’ve given us seven innings. Seven-plus from Minor. So we’re going in the right direction that way.”

Scouting report said curveballs to Davis?

“You look at the history that he’s had against us. That’s the right pitch, it’s just out over the plate a little bit. Can’t second-guess anybody. It’s the right pitch, just out over the plate.”

Surprised at Bay’s catch to rob Jack Wilson of homer?

“I think it got too much air under it, gave a chance for Jason to get back there and get it. I thought we hit the ball hard all night. Hinske hit a rocket to the first baseman, Jack gets robbed on a ball over the fence. We hit some balls hard, right at people. We had some good at-bats against Gee but nothing to show for it.”

On Heyward getting another two hits

“Was that a third hit on the catcher’s interference? That’s no at-bat for Jason? He’s swinging the bat real well. So we go on to tomorrow, Delgado gives us another good outing and start a new winning streak.”

***TOMMY HANSON

On Davis’ homer, fifth straight curveball to him

“That was the pitch I wanted to make, and he put the barrel on it. Plain and simple. Sometimes you’ve got to tip your hat, and you’ve got to do that with him right there.”

“I felt really good, and I still felt good [that inning]. I kind of threw around Wright right there and then put him on, and then Ike caught that curveball. I felt good and felt like I threw the ball well, just the results weren’t there.”

Lot of curveballs tonight…

“That was the pitch I wanted to throw and he got it.”

On hard-hit ball that hit him above left ankle

“He got me good. It started tightening up there, but it’s fine. Just bruised up a little bit, but it’s OK.”

The curveball was where you wanted it to Ike?

“Yeah, that’s what I want to do. I don’t want to bounce it there, I want to throw it for a strike.”

On pitching around Wright

“You’ve got to look at how Wright’s swinging the bat right now. We’ve got open bases there, so … I really don’t know what else to say. We put him on right there and we felt like that was the best move in that situation, to try to face Davis. I don’t know what his numbers are against me, but feel like I do pretty well against him. I’m not going to beat myself up over it. He barreled a curveball and hit it out, plain and simple.”

Plan was to let Wright chase a couple of pitches and then from there walk him?

“I mean, there’s no set plan. I wasn’t going to give him anything to hurt me with. That was it. Once I went 2-and-0, that was it. We put him on.”

***JACK WILSON

Did you think you had a homer?

“I didn’t get all of it. When I hit it I thought it had a chance, but he made a good catch. Kind of shifted the game right there. That would have put us up. One of those things. It was a great play and it kind of knocked us down a little bit.”

On Dillon Gee

“We got guys in scoring position. He made pitches to limit the damage in the first inning. When it counted he made the pitches. We didn’t get too many to hit.”

Say anything to former teammate Bay?

“I’ll text him. It won’t be pleasant. But you just have to tip your hat. I’ve seen it many times in left field when I’m playing shortstop looking back at him over the four or five years we played together. So it definitely wasn’t a surprise. A little disappointing, but he’s a really good outfielder.”

***DAN UGGLA

On the 7-3 Mets

“I never once thought that they’d be like a pushover or anything like that, and they haven’t been. They’ve been clicking on all cylinders so far, and we’ve really got to bear down and be competitive.

“A lot of the attention was with the Nationals and Miami with all the acquisitions they made. But if you played against this Mets team the last few years, they’ve been able to hit. They’ve got a healthy David Wright. They’ve got some pretty good hitters in there that have a good idea what they’re trying to do. Murphy’s solid. Thole’s solid. They’ve got a lot of guys in there that’ll give you a pro AB.

“And they’ve got a healthy Johan Santana, and they’ve got a healthy David Wright, and Niese and Dickey….

“A lot of keys that, if they stay healthy, I don’t think this is just a hot little start for them. They’ve got a good, solid ballclub.”

But you probably never imagined being 0-4 against them….

“No, even though I think they have a good ballclub, I never expected to be 0-4 against them. It’s a funny game. We’ve got to obviously make an adjustment against them, because they’ve kind of put it to us these first four games.”

109 comments Add your comment

BravesCountryBoy

April 16th, 2012
10:53 pm

Tommy’s tippin his cap so fredi doesn’t have to

Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow

April 16th, 2012
10:59 pm

Heyward is the only one producing, and Fredi STILL refuses to give a legit compliment.

Oh and… calling 42 straight curveballs, I’m sure one will eventually get hit out of the park.

Who Me?

April 16th, 2012
11:05 pm

FG’s infected the whole club – they’re all tipping caps now….didn’t see one ‘we played like crap tonight’ or any other honest assessment.

Simpson's Homer

April 16th, 2012
11:07 pm

Hmmm….. cap-tipping must be contagious, unfortunately!

J-MAN

April 16th, 2012
11:13 pm

This team aint nothing but a bunch of Cap Tipping Chokers. Fredi must go and a new firery manager is needed.

J-MAN

April 16th, 2012
11:18 pm

Yea the point of a Curve ball is to DECEIVE the hitter now when you throw 7 in a ROW it then becomes slow pitch softball to Big Leaguers. Also Ike Davis was our pick we gave the Mets when we signed Tom Glavine in 2008

Cliff

April 16th, 2012
11:20 pm

I totally agree, Fredi doesn’t ever compliment Heyward. He must have something against young players that produce. He brings them down. Just ask Hanley,Hermida,and now Heyward.

J-MAN

April 16th, 2012
11:20 pm

I fault McCann for bad pitch selection as well

J-MAN

April 16th, 2012
11:21 pm

Well Heyward only had his swing messed up when fredi came into the picture coincidence?

Mister Frisky

April 16th, 2012
11:25 pm

After a few days away from the blog this team is pretty much what I expected.500 is just about right.

Cap: Where's My Tip

April 16th, 2012
11:33 pm

I see Tommy got drilled on the curveball thing. Rightfully so I think … these guys are major leagues hitters, they adjusted .. Hanson didn’t and it cost him the game

Art Vandelay

April 16th, 2012
11:34 pm

You guys are so lame. 5 game win streak, lose 1..WORLD IS ENDING OMG!!! RUNNNNNN!!!

J-MAN

April 16th, 2012
11:36 pm

@Art we are 0-4 against the METS???????????? that is unacceptable. But you keep thinking Fredi is a good manager and call George Constanza

Really?

April 16th, 2012
11:37 pm

Sigggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggh

David from Athens, AL

April 16th, 2012
11:49 pm

I must agree … I have notice as well he doesn’t give Jason compliments …. I thought I was the only one that noticed that … i wonder why??

PMC

April 16th, 2012
11:49 pm

can we just ban the phrase “tip your hat/cap etc” ?

Losing happens, these guys are all professionals sometimes the other team is better or beats you.

We could say… they were better tonight…. we could say we’ll get them tomorrow night… or someone’s going to pay for this.

The cap tipping thing though….is getting old. We need a sea change.

PMC

April 16th, 2012
11:52 pm

May should be free of all cap tipping. We could simply pat them on the back or congratulate them.

spike

April 16th, 2012
11:54 pm

Wish someone had asked why Freeman wasn’t used for Wilson or Hanson when there was a chance to get back in the ball game.

Tip O' the Cap

April 17th, 2012
12:00 am

Awesome! Both Wilson and Hanson called me by my name! Surprised Freddi didn’t jump onboard as well tonight. Seems like everyone is always better than we are.

JAFO

April 17th, 2012
12:02 am

Wilson has caught the cap tippin fever as well. Is there a clubhouse rule you have to use that phrase after a loss? Just say ‘great grab’ and move on. DOB- do everyone a favor and ignore or delete that phrase from the post game quotes. It will help avoid the discourse surrounding the transparency of that idiotic offering of support to the opposition.

Shelbyflash

April 17th, 2012
12:18 am

Washington usually has our number now New York does too. Everybody else we’ll play .500

Bubba won the Masters

April 17th, 2012
1:08 am

Agree with PMC and others….can you tell them the cap tipping is way past old.

The Mets!….are you kidding?

WMadness

April 17th, 2012
1:59 am

Where are my Kool-Aid drinkers that were saying we are going to the playoffs? They got too excited about that we sweep against a crappy Brewers team!

Kyle

April 17th, 2012
6:14 am

Everything is back to normal. I don’t know who that was on a 5 game winning streak. Are Houston and Milwaukee that bad?

Nattering Nabob

April 17th, 2012
6:19 am

Yes, the Chopocalypse has returned!

rc35

April 17th, 2012
7:01 am

Cap tipping should definitely be banned for a while. I like the suggestion that May be “No Cap Tipping Month.” There is no way the NY Mets should own this team like they have so far this year. Maybe tonight, the Braves’ slogan should be “Must End This Streak!”

David O'Brien

April 17th, 2012
7:06 am

DOB- do everyone a favor and ignore or delete that phrase from the post game quotes. It will help avoid the discourse surrounding the transparency of that idiotic offering of support to the opposition. — JAFO

No, we’ve been down this road. You or I will not dictate what is said or choose which quotes to use or not use. What we’ll do is, I’ll give you the direct answers to postgame questions. If you then choose to get hysterical and continue to carry on about “cap tipping” quotes, so be it. At this point, the reaction by some on this blog to that quote is more predictable — and certainly more entertaining — than the quote itself.

Let's Go

April 17th, 2012
7:24 am

The Mets are playing good right now and for some reason they seem to have the Braves number. Because of ownership problems I think a lot of people really thought the Mets were going to suck this year and fall into the Padres/Astros category but when healthy this is a really good team and for the most part they are young and could be a problem for a few years. On the positive side, the Braves don’t see them again until after the All Star break so by then hopefully the Braves will have figured some things out.

Let's Go

April 17th, 2012
7:37 am

On the plus side Livan Hernandez had his best outing of the season last night. 2 innings, 2 hits, 1 run, 1 home run which LOWERS his ERA to 4.76. Let’s give big old Tip Of The Hat to Livan.

Skip & Pete Fan

April 17th, 2012
7:44 am

Great response DOB! Keep up the good work!

bigchiefrg

April 17th, 2012
7:46 am

I would much rather have an even-keeled manager like Bobby or Freddie for a 162 game season than a firey nut job like Valentine or Guillen. Ask Miami or Boston how its going.

on the fence

April 17th, 2012
7:46 am

Geez with the “tip your hat” statements from this team. (Besides, they wear caps, not hats!)

Twanker

April 17th, 2012
7:47 am

Bad managing leaving Hanson in too long. Fredi says he shoulda went 8 innings. Idiot.

Cecil34

April 17th, 2012
8:01 am

So much love amongst the millionaires……

Buddy Landel

April 17th, 2012
8:07 am

WMadness

April 17th, 2012
1:59 am
Where are my Kool-Aid drinkers that were saying we are going to the playoffs? They got too excited about that we sweep against a crappy Brewers team
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I’m right here and still say we make the playoffs. No, this one loss after winning 5 straight hasn’t altered my prediction.

Selig's Dictatorship

April 17th, 2012
8:11 am

If you pull Hanson starting the 6th when its 1-1 maybe you win the game. He was obviously tired and has a history of pitching about 5 innings dominantly then giving up a bunch of runs in the 6th. I know this but the manager doesn’t ?

Selig's Dictatorship

April 17th, 2012
8:16 am

I just don’t like how Fredi manages the pitchers period. He annoints the 7th to O’Flaherty,Venters the 8th,and Kimbrel the 9th. That’s fine if O’Flaherty comes out and gets the first out with ease. But many times he walks a hitter then gives up a hit. And Fredi has nobody ready to replace him in the bullpen. Nobody warming up.
Fredi wants 6 to 8 innings from his staters. That’s great playing in Wonderland. But in the real world you remove the pitchers when they lose velocity on their pitches and lose location. Last night Hanson was getting every pitch up in the 6th because he was tired. Why have a bullpen if you don’t use it ? And stop using Livan & Durbin. They just come in and allow more runs.

Dwayne

April 17th, 2012
8:17 am

I tip my hat to all the “tip my hat” quotes and comments.

Selig's Dictatorship

April 17th, 2012
8:19 am

Nobody in their right mind (other teams) would choose Durbin & Livan over Teheran & Gilmartin. Only the Braves. While Teheran & Gilmartin throw meaningless pitches at Gwinnett, Livan & Durbin are allowing runs by the half dozens in Braves losses.

Selig's Dictatorship

April 17th, 2012
8:21 am

What is Roger McDowell doing any way ? I see that Hanson is done after the 5th but the pitching coach doesn’t ? He was probably heckling a long-haired hippy fan instead of watching his pitcher…

Tex Roughneck

April 17th, 2012
8:24 am

“I tip my 10 gallon hat to Gee,Ike,Wright,the Mets,and New York City !”

TPic

April 17th, 2012
8:33 am

DOB, you are half right. The reactions to the “tip your hat” quotes are definitely entertaining, but in no way are they as predictable as the team is at dispensing them.

ATLANTAROLL

April 17th, 2012
8:44 am

Sure are a lot of experts here.Awesome ! Espech that wanker J-MAN . Dude.Really… ? Get a job.

Don

April 17th, 2012
8:56 am

No question, we probably will make the Playoffs – IF the Comish keeps increasing the number of teams to the point where all you have to do is play .500 ball to get in.

Commenter

April 17th, 2012
8:58 am

So, 2 out of 3 from the Astros: “we should have swept them, they are terrible”. Swept the brewers (much better club) “Brewers are terrible we should have swept them”. It’s kind of sad how some of you are toward this team. In case you haven’t figured it out yet, the Mets are a little better than advertised. They did take 2 of three from the Phillies… And don’t say they beat them without Utley or Howard because their Rotation is still intact and hard to beat. The absolutely shelled Cliff Lee. They are hot right now, hopefully the Braves can compete tonight and give themselves a chance to win, things will even out, it’s a loooong season. Please keep it civil…

Atlanta Brave in NC

April 17th, 2012
9:01 am

If Tommy doesn’t stop tipping off his pitches to the hitters, he will have to go on the DL for tipping elbow because he will be doing a lot of hat tipping.

Atlanta Brave in NC

April 17th, 2012
9:05 am

I tip my hat to Selig’s Dictatorship, he said everything I was thinking. I am going out and buying me some hats, this is going to be a long season.

Heathcliff Slocum

April 17th, 2012
9:13 am

DOB – Well said at 7:06. Unfortunately, baseball players (and managers) tend to talk in cliches .. tipping the cap, it’s game of inches and the personal favorite of every guy on XM Radio’s baseball channel – “no question about it.”

But there are those gems like Wilson’s reaction to the Bay catch, “I’ll text him, it won’t be pleasant.”

Joey

April 17th, 2012
9:13 am

“It’s a long season.”
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But the games count don’t they?

I seems we could have used 1 – that’s right, 1 more win last season . . .

double

April 17th, 2012
9:14 am

Errors&Excuses Guess you don’t have to go to NY to get a Whuppin.

Rufio

April 17th, 2012
9:29 am

I know the Bobble Head Dolls were very popular for a few years. I know, Freddi Freeman is nodding at me every time I am working on my car.

I am starting to wonder if the Braves Marketing Department have created a Cap Tipping Doll and Freddi G and the rest of the boys are just laying the foundation for a huge Cap Tipping Night Event ??

If not, someone in the Braves Organization has to know how much that phrases pisses off the fan base and tell them to buy a new phrase.

0-5 to the Mets! To the lowly Mets!!!! If the Braves are at a .500 winning percentage at the end of the April the John Shuerholz needs to clear out Frank and Freddi. With the exception of the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks, There is no reason the Braves should not be able to handily beat the Mets, Brewers, Astros and Pirates. The Braves face the Mets 17 times in 2012 and they have already lost 5. Wow!!

BravesfaninWis

April 17th, 2012
9:33 am

Plain and simple, Tommy Hanson got beat like a red headed step child (pun intended).. When a MLB pitcher can’t throw a ball to 1st base, throws multiple wild pitches (1 that scored a run), and gives up a back breaking 3 run HR, who is the loss on? So tip your hat all you want Tommy boy, this loss is on you.

Did I mention that you are the most overrated pitcher to come up in a long time? You were supposedly this big time prospect and all you have done in failed. What big games have you won? What big series have you won? How many Cy Young awards do you have? How often are you injured? How easy is it for a batter to figure you out? Ask Ike Davis that question.

Pitch #1 Curveball
Pitch #2 Curveball
Pitch #3 Curveball
Pitch #4 Curveball

will he throw a fastball to fool you Davis? No, his fastball is weak and he knows he can’t throw it by me. He is like a book, so I am going with Curveball seeing as though that is the only thing he has thrown me and now has given me 4 prior looks at it and let me get my timing down.

Pitch #5 Curveball, back, back, back, GONE!!!! A 3 run HR for Davis and the Mets are up 4-1 and you could hear the collective breaths taken out of the fans and players here with that jack.

“Tommy Hanson” That was a great pitch, you just have to tip your cap to Davis who had several other looks at that same pitch and was able to get his timing down perfectly to knock the ball out of the park.

Brave New World

April 17th, 2012
9:37 am

The Mets are not as bad as many (including me) thought. Their pitching is under-the-radar very good. The NL East is a tough division in 2012, perhaps the toughest in baseball. GO BRAVES!

64 year Braves fan

April 17th, 2012
9:39 am

Hanson is only a 5 inning pitcher and he usually beats himself (wild pickoff throw)etc. He seems to have lost his fastball.

Supes

April 17th, 2012
9:41 am

The Braves certainly looked more “relaxed” last night, some of the intensity from the weekend had disappeared. Not sure if it was the “monday lulls” or the small crowd or what, but I saw a fire and determination in some of our key guys against the Brewers that was lacking against the Muts.

On a side note, this inexcusable “cap tipping company line” has got to go…if Fredo and the crew knew how cliche and none believable it sounded they wouldn’t use it. Just say you got BEAT, no need for “stinking hat tipping” darn it!

DawgDad

April 17th, 2012
9:46 am

How much is Dan Uggla getting paid to tip his hat to Daniel Murphy??? These big contracts are stupid – far too often the players just aren’t worth it and the salary load hamstrings management.

Need to go through the NL East once before we get a true read on the Braves (and the Mets, for that matter), but right now they’re about where I expected. When you look at the Mets – sad to say, but they’re far better than the Braves all the way around the infield, they’re holding their own in the outfield, and you’d have to say the pitching is just as good at this point, if not better.

PMC

April 17th, 2012
9:48 am

Maybe you could seed the answers though after a loss DOB. You could suggest a back pat.

May could be back patting month!

Dirty Dawg

April 17th, 2012
9:50 am

Seems to me DOB that you should have asked Tom Glavine about throwing four straight curve balls to Davis. He was all over it at the time…saying that if they wanted to use the curve as the ‘out’ pitch on Davis, which was obvious to everybody, especially to Ike, then they should have set him up, and ‘change his eye level’ with a fastball up and out…I mean if the announcers can see it then why can’t the pitching coach, McCann and Hanson himself?

DawgDad

April 17th, 2012
9:50 am

“So tip your hat all you want Tommy boy, this loss is on you.”

Hanson made one bad pitch. The Braves scored ONE run. Can Hanson be better? Sure, but this loss was on the hitting (or lack thereof).

1eyedJack

April 17th, 2012
9:51 am

The Braves’ new bobble head doll should come with an automatic cap tipping spring. Bobble forward, tip cap, bobble backward place cap back on head.

JAFO

April 17th, 2012
10:00 am

Fair enough DOB. Never expereinced hysteria regarding that phrase (it’s a pretty good album though) but the overuse is beyond hysterical. Can you keep a straight face when you hear that phrase?

JAFO

April 17th, 2012
10:07 am

You’re a damn genius 1 eye! A must have in every locker.

coach

April 17th, 2012
10:12 am

has anybody told fredi that you can still win a game when you are behind? bobby did the same thing. if we’re ahead in the 5th-this set of relievers pitch, if we’re behind the other set of guys pitch.

wrong mindset. like the great billy sample once said “most teams try to win the 1st game of a doublheader………” we could still try to win the game down 4-1 in the 6th or 7th, instead b/c we’re behind we bring in the durbins, hernandez’s, linebrink’s, proctor’s of the world. it’s like throwing up the white flag.

other teams know it and they know who they’ll get if they’re ahead in the 5th or 6th. ridiculous.

Morris Code

April 17th, 2012
10:31 am

Does Fredi not like J Hey or something? Just looking at his comments and he seems to never give him props.

PMC

April 17th, 2012
10:46 am

The Bullpen has had a lot of work this week coach, he probably threw the other guys to give his horses some rest. Doesn’t mean he’s not trying to win.

spike

April 17th, 2012
10:48 am

I don’t think it’s Heyward per se – Fredi generally seems to prefer veterans and so-called “scrappy” players, regardless of current ability over “these kids today” – in other words players that superficially remind him of himself.

spike

April 17th, 2012
10:59 am

Lucky best quote from yesterday regarding Durbin via Rogers…

““We need to get him in there a little more and get him that life on that fastball, that two-seamer,” Fredi Gonzalez said.”

Relax everybody – more Chad usage is on the way!

Lobosolo

April 17th, 2012
11:01 am

When the Braves lose a game (a typical kind of game for all teams in the majors throiughout the course of a long season, the kind a team would rather forget and improve on next time out) the LOSERS come off their perches so that thy can squawk to high heaven and revel in their doomsday existence,.. never realized what a large portion of some people’s lives must be spent crying, especially over a game that is so peaked and vallied as baseball is… If it isn’t enough to cry at the drop of a tipped cap, these LOSERS find the need to project their innate childishness by assuming that they know so well how to play and manage by watching from their perch on the couch and deriving judgements on every single at bat as if they, in their infinite baseball wisdom, could pitch, hit, or coach to hit successfully in every single circumstance that arises during a game… you LOSERS need to start yourselves a 20-20 Armchair Baseball League, where your teams all finish with 162-0 records, your batters all hit 1.000, and your pitchers all have era’s of 0.00… In the 20-20ABL, you’ll never have to tip your cap in acknowledgement to another team that just had it going on in a particular game, winning them all by the mercy rule made necessary by your managing/playing prowess…

Wow, you LOSERS have surpassed your ignorance of baseball from last season, which is saying a lot… When Johnny comes home from school whining about how he’s being teased for having such an ignorant crybaby for a daddy, just go sit back down and curse your team to another loss,..

Wayn-o

April 17th, 2012
11:12 am

Stop complimenting the other team & take some responsibility for your failures. No that’s fine just keep tipping the hat to the Mets, Yes the Mets, Really Atlanta?!? You just swept the Brewers but you can’t even challenge the weakest team in the division. Sorry, we are the weakest team in the division.

SubwayguyNyC

April 17th, 2012
11:31 am

Let’s Go Mets! Off to the best start in recent memory and giving the Braves a good old fashioned beat down! The Braves have lost their swagger it seems….what a shame…

Mister Frisky

April 17th, 2012
11:37 am

If I had a dollar for every time “tip you cap” was used by this regime,I would have enough money to buy them from Liberty Media and save this franchise.

SubwayguyNyC

April 17th, 2012
11:38 am

Too bad the Braves can’t face the Brewers every game….they’d be a shoo in fir the division title! As for you clowns out there calling the Mets the weakest team in the division….man up! The Mets squad will not be the pushovers of recent years. This team will compete and beat you anyway possible. Beware!

Braves fan in maine

April 17th, 2012
12:06 pm

Im sick of seeing juan franscico, durbin, and livan on this freaking team….. they dont belong they suck

Braves fan in maine

April 17th, 2012
12:09 pm

SubwayguyNyc………. go post on the muts website!!!!!!!!!!!!

Klaus

April 17th, 2012
12:19 pm

During the 4 game losing streak I could see the angst but its one loss to a team that is playing good baseball.

I don’t have crazy high hopes for the Braves but we won’t know what we have until the end of April at the earliest.

They may not have been as bad as the open 4 games and probably not as good as the Brewers series.

The Brewers starting pitching sans Greinke is suspect. Their pen is not very good either. Unless they hit a ton of bombs they are are easy mark.

AZ, LA, WAS, STL and the entire AL interleague schedule will be the real test for this club.

So far the schedule has been pretty soft.

The real question will be how long can Chipper’s knees hold out? If he needs them to be drained every 5-6 games he will be done by mid May.

If that happens then they will lose a ton of ballgames. Prado or Juan at 3B and a human book mark in LF won’t get it done.

BravesfaninWis

April 17th, 2012
12:27 pm

DawgDad
April 17th, 2012
9:50 am

“So tip your hat all you want Tommy boy, this loss is on you.”

Hanson made one bad pitch. The Braves scored ONE run. Can Hanson be better? Sure, but this loss was on the hitting (or lack thereof).

How about that little league toss to 1st base in a lazy attempt at a pickoff that eventually set the Mets up to score a run? Or how about that what, 5th wild pitch that he threw to let the Mets score another run late? That first bad pitch cost the Braves 3 runs, and the wild pitch cost them another. That is 4 runs at least given up by the overrated, mediocre Tommy Hanson. The offense is not going to be great every game, and we have this “so called” great pitching staff. Hanson pitches mediocre most of the time. He has a stupid pitching delivery, he throws a boatload of wild pitches, and he gives us hits left and right.

Game Changer

April 17th, 2012
12:28 pm

Constanza called to majors to left field, trade diaz
Trade hanson and heyward for a SS and outfielder before both are not worth as much tomorrow
need a third baseman, current player at gwinnett not very good

Klaus

April 17th, 2012
12:30 pm

I also think its the right move to start requiring the starters to pitch well into the 7th inning. They may face plant but they may learn a thing or two as well.

Protecting them too long only kills the pen early and doesn’t give Wren or Fredi a true sense of what they have or don’t.

It is also why (knowing what u don’t have) Fredi should play all the dudes Wren lifted from the dumpster wire. Broom them early if they suck and try something else.

We may not like all this but its needs to be done in April not June or July when its too late to prep for a trade. It is also a reality for a cash strapped team with a farm system focused on arms and not much else (at the higher levels). In other words there is no Evan Longoria, Josh Hamilton or Troy Tulow waiting in AAA for a call.

But I digress. It is more likely that Wren makes an aggressive trade come late June or at the deadline if his team makes it clear (loudly) to him what they need.

That said I am not a big Wren fan (or Fredi G) so I am not sure what the guy will do or can do based on budget.

BravesfaninWis

April 17th, 2012
12:30 pm

If the Mets faced the Braves 162 games a year, they could very well be a 140 game winning team. All joking aside, if the Braves can’t hang with the Mets, they may as well throw in the white towel right now.

southern hope

April 17th, 2012
12:40 pm

I have no idea who created this chart of how Fredi chooses pitchers from the bullpen but it is truly hilarious (and somebody needs to take credit for it! :) http://i.imgur.com/eQN3m.jpg

Salad Shooter

April 17th, 2012
12:45 pm

Braves dont need Durbin,Livan,or Juan. Fredi can hire them to do his yardwork. They cant play baseball.

Salad Shooter

April 17th, 2012
12:49 pm

Braves pick up players out of the dumpsters. You play players with very little success and you get bad results.

jim

April 17th, 2012
12:53 pm

I had to laugh at Selig’s Dictatorship in his previous blogs.
Hanson should be taken out after 5 innings — generalized to all pitchers who might start to tire.
Durbin and Hernandez should never be used.
EOF should be relieved if he gives up a hit in the 7th.
Who is going to pitch the 6th inning? Medlen?
Who will he bring in to relieve EOF at first sign of trouble? Venters for 2 innings? There is only Durbin, Hernandez, and Martinez out there if EOF is to be relieved. None of them had a sub 1 ERA for a full season.
Who will pitch the 10th if the game stayed tied?

Teheran and Gilmartin are wasting their time in the minors? It’s called development! Gilmartin has not pitched above low A this year and Teheran is being groomed to be a starter. If JJ continues to suck and Hanson can’t get his fastball above 90 mph anymore, maybe we’ll see Teheran later in the season. It is reasonable to expect to get at least 7 innings out of your opening day starter.

Braves Grrrl

April 17th, 2012
12:57 pm

DOB – Thanks for doing the work to provide us the quotes. It is appreciated.

Samantha

April 17th, 2012
12:57 pm

Hey guys. Didnt see gane. Where did the bats go?

Ralph

April 17th, 2012
12:58 pm

Dan Uggly – If the Muts had a healthy Dan Uggla we would kick their butts.

Samantha

April 17th, 2012
1:03 pm

Hi Ralph. What happened to ouir bats?

jim

April 17th, 2012
1:12 pm

In the 8th inning last night the team is down 4 runs. Bourn on 3rd, and Mac at the plate. Wright is playing about 3 steps away from the 2nd base bag. A hard bunt or a dribbler down the line is a sure run and another man on base for Uggla and Heyward coming up next. Why not TRY to take advantage of getting a run when they are almost giving it to you? A few attempts to beat the shift might also get you a less extreme shift and more room on the right side in future ABs. The same situation was given to Uggla in the Brewers series when add on runs were needed. The whole right side of the infield was open, and he did not even try to take advantage. Remember Pena beating the extreme shift the Braves were using last year twice (leading directly to at least 1 run). After that the shift was less extreme.

Samantha

April 17th, 2012
1:14 pm

Got to go Bye

J-MAN

April 17th, 2012
1:43 pm

The purpose of a Curveball is to DECEIVE the hitter when you throw 7 consective curves it will become like slow pitch softball to any major league hitter. Plain and simple, I fault McCann for not having a better pitch selection that is his fault on that front also Fredi should have taken Hanson out especially because he was tired.

Mark's for the Braves

April 17th, 2012
1:43 pm

Still early to judge this team, but they seem to have little to no clutch hitting and no one except Hinske (and Ross if they’d use him) off the bench who can hit. Not very optimistic this year if we fall behind 4 or more runs in the 5th or later if we don’t have a bench who can come up with some clutch hits.

J-MAN

April 17th, 2012
1:52 pm

To all the Heyward haters…….you are IDIOTS. He has a .375 avg hitting the ball to opposite field, stealing bases and collecting walks…………..But there are about 10 of you here that thinks he is a terrible hitter and wants him gone because he isnt Jeff Francoeur. I’m a white man and im admitting that there are some racist that might not think of themselves as that but they are angry that their hero got traded. The real person you should use all that energy for is Fredi Gongalez

Buddy Landel

April 17th, 2012
1:53 pm

Samantha is a sweatpants wearin’ truckdriver. He ain’t no stripper. Your game is old Sam. Give it tup.

J-MAN

April 17th, 2012
1:54 pm

@ Buddy Landel………How do you feel about Nature Boy Ric Flair lol

Big Lou

April 17th, 2012
2:04 pm

I’ve never seen a pitcher lose the game in so many facets. It was truly a hilarious spectacle to see. First he throws a horrid ball to first base that sets up the first run. Then he throws a bunch of the same pitches that lead to the three run homer. Then he throws a wild pitch. That’s pretty bad. lol

Samantha

April 17th, 2012
2:04 pm

What do you want? I just asked a simple question about last nite. Nobody answered so I left. Now you start picking at me again then I will fire back. If you want me gone then shut up about me.

iTiSi

April 17th, 2012
2:05 pm

Since the Japanese are so good at making human-like robots these days, why can’t we get them to make one to replace FG in the dugout. That’s all he basically is anyway. That, or a statue. I honestly believe he and the President could swap positions for a week and no one would notice the difference in how the country is run and how the team plays. They are both that irrelevant.

Game Changer

April 17th, 2012
2:12 pm

j man: my wanting Heyward traded is not because he is that bad: baseball is a game of who has the most assets: We dont have 9 mlb players on the roster currently and heyward could get us two good players, it would help Heyward to go to another city also just as it helped Francouer although Francouer will never amount to much of a hitter and his slow foot speed cost alot of outs every series.
Heyward is much better all roung player than Francouer

Simpson's Homer

April 17th, 2012
2:18 pm

Hey Samantha — we just couldn’t get a clutch hit. Jack Wilson had a homer stolen away by the left fielder. That Mets starter always seems to give the Braves trouble….. Hope you’re doing well…..
GO BRAVES!!!!!

Samantha

April 17th, 2012
2:24 pm

Thanks Homer. I just wondered what happened?hanx for info. Long time not talking How you been?

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