Who would have thought last night with the score tied 3-3 going into the top of the ninth that this game was exactly half over? The Bandits stagger into the winners column by pushing home the winning run in the top of the 16th, then hold on in the bottom of the frame for a 4-3 victory
2B PHIL GOSSELIN [.318 BA] and 1B IAN GAC [.372 BA] provide the effective offense. GAC’s solo blast in the top of the sixteenth is the deciding run.
Everyone who got a hit:
Lead-off CF MYC JONES [.125], 3B JOE LEONARD [.273 BA - 2 BB], C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.211 BA], and LF ADAM MILLIGAN [.172 BA] all had a single apiece, but nothing to show for it.
1B IAN GAC [.372 BA] 4-7, 1 R, 2 2B [5], 1 HR [2], 3 RBI [9], 2 SO, 1 CS [1]. The 2003 RANGERS pick is having a heck of a season so far as a newbie.
Seven pitchers used including back-up 1B BARRETT KLEINKNECHT [.188 BA; W 1-0, 0.00 ERA] who pitched the last two innings and hurled one-hit shutout work with two SO.
LHSP LUIS AVILAN [2.08 ERA] 5.0 IP two-hit ball, five walks and five strike outs. A little wild, but much improved this season to this point.
LHRP RICHARD SULLIVAN [H 1, 9.64 ERA] 0.1 IP, 3 H, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 1 SO. RICHARD continues to disappoint, and his career is not going well.
RHRP ANDY RUSSELL [BS 1, 0.00 ERA] 1.2 IP, 2 H, zeros, 3 SO.
Hey DOB, how about writing about Dan Uggla’s and Freddie Freeman’s Struggles huh. Why the need to write about Michael Bourne and Jason Heyward after 1 week.
2. Ryan Braun needs to come out with the “real story” behind his PEDS situation. He was booed every time he got close to the ball and when he came up to bat. Folks think he is guilty.
I understand your point, flange1, but folks thinking Braun is guilty and Braun being guilty are two separate issues. Braun has a PR problem, not a legal one at this juncture.
Hey DOB, how about writing about Dan Uggla’s and Freddie Freeman’s Struggles huh. Why the need to write about Michael Bourne and Jason Heyward after 1 week. — RealBravesFan
When did I write about Jason Heyward struggling?
I do recall pointing out that Freeman’s nine strikeouts (at that time; the figure has since risen) ranked among the most in the majors, but don’t recall writing that Heyward was struggling. If I pointed out anything, it was that he was one of many on the team struggling very early against lefties, and that most of the them struggled against lefties last season, too.
Truthfully, it’s not even our job to judge whether or not Braun is guilty. His employer (mlb) has made that judgement, now it’s time to move on. Why demonize the guy, as a Braves fan and a fan of the game, I’d still love to see him man LF for us if there was a possibility. He seems to be a very genuine guy, let’s move on and allow him to move on.
For those of you who didn’t know, Chipper was selected into the FLorida High School Association Sports Hall of Fame this past March, I believe it was. I heard about this, I believe, on one of the ESPN games this spring when one announcer told the other about it which prompted a pretty comical response for their taking so long,”Wow, tough Hall!” Chipper was a standout pitcher in high school but obviously someone made the right call for him as a hitter.
Ryan Braun is one of the best pure hitters of all time. Barring injuries he will be in the HOF. He will put up the same big numbers this year and for many years to come dispelling any notion that he was juiced. Just enjoy him, except when he plays the Bravos.
Nothing wrong with people having an opinion about Braun. From what I understand his defense was there was some ambiguity in the rules and he exploited that.
I seem to recall he had 2 samples, both we’re dirty and neither had been visually tampered with. Maybe I’m wrong about that………..
I still need to see more from Heyward too. To be honest, I need to see a full season from the kid. Even if he is at .900 in June, I’m not going to be screaming for him to be offered a Carlos Gonzalez extension. Gotta put in six healthy months – that is more important than anything.
And even now, I’ll still be content with a .810 -.830 OPS.
For those of you who didn’t know, Chipper was selected into the FLorida High School Association Sports Hall of Fame this past March, I believe it was. I heard about this, I believe, on one of the ESPN games this spring when one announcer told the other about it which prompted a pretty comical response for their taking so long,”Wow, tough Hall!” Chipper was a standout pitcher in high school but obviously someone made the right call for him as a hitter. — Monty
March 29, this blog:
… Much of the funny stuff one hears in the clubhouse or dugout isn’t printable here. Here’s a couple of things I heard this week that are (well, slightly censored and perhaps slightly altered).
Standing with Gonzalez and ESPN write Jayson Stark on the field during batting practice, a slip of paper I’d had in my notebook fell out. I picked it up, mentioned what it said – that Chipper Jones would be inducted into the Florida high school athletic hall of fame on April 29.
“Damn, he’s not in that already?” Gonzalez said. “That’s a tough hall of fame.”
“……..its maybe the fact that the white guys have a history of turning things around but the black guys do not?……….”
PLUEEZE. Any geneticist will tell you we as humans are all sub-sets of the same species. DNA-speaking, there’s very little variation between the races. It’s more a matter of climactic factors that give us the various colorations in our skin and the few anatonomical features of difference.
Another theory, didn’t I read somewhere that all humans were originally the same? And that the Tower of Babel had something to do with the changes of language and difference we now have on earth.
Maybe Braun has been juicing since the beginning of his minor league days or maybe since college days, all I know is he hit a HR every 19 AB’s in the minors and every 18 AB’s in the bigs. All of his coaches say he is a role model kind of guy, where is the spike? (if he is was juicing) He certainly doesn’t have the look of a juicer. Now if he hits only 20 HR’s this year, then humm.
Dude [Braun] got off on a technicality. It isn’t as if he was exonerated. He used, but he beat the rap.
Braun worked within the parameters set up by the MLB. Blame the MLB for “technicalities” that worked to Braun’s advantage. Nonetheless, Braun’s problem now is PR. Braun and his agent should sit down with a good PR pro and figure it out… or, perhaps, just let it blow away over time.
You’re right. It may help Braun to tell his story. Or it may just extend the life of an incident that Braun would prefer fade away over time. I think there’s something to clearing the air for Braun, but he might have wanted to have done so soon after he was off the hook rather than waiting and waiting.
Was I seeing things this weekend or did Diaz actually hit a HR? I cannot believe my eyes!
Durbin must be close to being released. My guess is he doesn’t last the month of April. The guy is worse than Proctor, and that’s saying a lot about how bad he really is.
Can’t say enough good things about Minor, Beachy, and Heyward. Great weekend o’ baseball!
My thoughts on Heyward are he has been injured in back-to-back years which over time affected his swing mechanics which in turn eroded his confidence and everyone who knows anything about hitting, or thought they did, put a bug in his ear. This year he is healthy and he’s not even dicussing his swing with anyone on the outside . I look for a big year provided he doesn’t get injured again.
And FF has been hitting some lazer beams right at folks, but that said, his swing looks a little tilted to me, needs to flatten it out some.
Can’t say enough good things about Minor, Beachy, and Heyward. Great weekend o’ baseball!
Fitting my least favorite starter, Mike “Polished” Minor was the first Braves starter to actually pitch like a big leaguer this season and go 7 innings. I was glad to see Beachy rising up and matching that. I can only hope that inspired Hanson and Jurrjens to drop the crutches and try for a major league starting pitcher outing this week.
Tomorrow’s game ought to be an interesting one… Delgado vs Santana. Delgado is the guy who rises to the occasion, and the team now knows what to expect from Santana. I’m hoping the bats really bring Johan back down to earth.
With all the good news from the weekend, I still let fly a string of expletives when Prado laid down that bunt with no one out and Bourn on second yesterday.
He looks pretty feeble, and that’s a fact, but they aren’t going to drop him after three appearances. They’ll try to straighten him out, first. And while I have my doubts about that particular outcome, the team is still likely to try that route before cutting him loose.
I still let fly a string of expletives when Prado laid down that bunt with no one out and Bourn on second yesterday.
Yeah, I know. But it didn’t really look to me like a straight-up sac. I guess it’s possible Prado was trying to bunt for a hit while willing to take the out, worst case. Dunno.
(I agree that bleep gets a little irritating, though.)
“I still let fly a string of expletives when Prado laid down that bunt with no one out and Bourn on second yesterday.”
My tippin’ point was when the radio guys announced Durbin was warming up in the pen to come in and close before we pushed across those last 2 runs. I almost had to pull the car over and compose myself. It was at that point I lost some respect for FG.
I guess it’s possible Prado was trying to bunt for a hit while willing to take the out, worst case. Dunno.
What? I didn’t see this, but Prado is bunting with first base open?!?! That has got to stop. There is absolutely no need for this. The runner at second is in scoring position already.
Here’s an idea Prado, hit a single, double, triple, HR and knock him in… or just a well struck ball to the right side of the field. Don’t bunt.
At least, it appears Fredo has the right role in mind for him.
Durbin is the Kimbrel stat padder. A blow out, made close, so Kimbrel can get a save.
Also, it hides the brilliance of the rest of the team from the cursory stat crunchers… “I don’t expect much from the Braves. They don’t have a big run differential.”
Holy sh!t that is stupid. Now I’m starting to understand Frank’s desire to find a new “third baseman of the future.” They one they have now is just giving the game away for no reason.
Now, I’m not one to “call out” anyone. Particularly DOB cause he does a bang up job. So no one take it this way… Not seeking a sit-em-down-and-grill-em question either. But, if that happens again, I’d be stoked if DOB slid the question in there casually… “So, that bunt with a runner in scoring position and no outs early in the game, was that Prado’s call?”… probably wouldn’t come off good that way. Maybe just a “Was that bunt in the first the hitters call?”
I’m just curious to know if Prado is doing this on his own or if Fredi is calling for it. I like to think I’m fair minded so I want to know on whom I should focus my angst.
Minor is young. Making the jump from college/minor league baseball is pretty big. It takes time for most players/pitchers to learn the ropes at the major league level.
Was it Fredi Gonzalez that DOB quoted about a young pitcher needing to make 30 starts or so before he really begins to get the major league game and develops his confidence?
I don’t know Murph. After calming down from my first reaction from reading the report… I’m willing to wait and see if we can get more on this. I do know that sometimes players do that on their own. I recall LaRoche attempting a bunt once on his own with disastrous consequences. I’ve also noticed Prado in the two hole essentially has turned him into a pitcher. Which by the way, if this is Fredi’s goal, he should just move his pitcher up there if all he’s going to do is bank on a bunt once the lead off man is on..
“I’d be stoked if DOB slid the question in there casually… “So, that bunt with a runner in scoring position and no outs early in the game, was that Prado’s call?”
The question I would loved asked, maybe something like this…”so Chipper, what was your initial reaction to FG bringing Durbin in to pitch the 9th” – Chipper non-responsive, has that deer caught in the headlights look. Looks to his left, then to his right, shuffles his feet as his face turns bright red.Collects his thoughts and finally says,”yeh we need to get Chad going.”
What’s the old saying, “get um on, get um over and get um in”. Prado lays down the bunt gets Bourne to 3rd and receives high-fives from his teamates in the dugout. If he doesn’t get the runner over to 3rd it’s a bad AB. If he does, it’s considered a good one.(conventional baseball wisdom,rule 101)
I’d be interested to see what the collective slugging percentage is for the team. Because those of you who are trashing Fredi for bunting and moving runners into scoring position have selective amnesia. This is not a home run hitting team, and waiting for the three run homer with this bunch is a pipe dream. Over the long haul of this season, putting a runner at third with less than two outs will be of greater benefit than praying for a big inning.
This teams reminds me of an old Pontiac inline eight engine – except for the fact that on any given day, four of the pistons run while the other four are dropped. Funnier yet, as the dropped pistons somehow repair themselves, the other four suddenly become dropped. As much as I do not see eye-to-eye with Fredi on many things, not least of which is the way he handles his pitching, his desire to bunt, move runners, and play situational small ball will benefit this team over the next 153 games.
I am not too optimistic about the Mets series especially with Jurrjens and Delgado pitching.
A lot of you are all over Durbin well Jurrjens deserves the same treatment.
Durbin is atleast a mop up man but Jurrjens is aiming to be a 15 game loser.
Why don’t y’all try finding something REALLY worth bitching about instqed of creating a tempest in a tea cup? You’re not happy when they “wait” on 3 run HRs. You’re not happy when they pkay small ball. Not happy when they lose, not happy when they win. Don’t like how they run the draft, who they draft, etc.
Because those of you who are trashing Fredi for bunting and moving runners into scoring position have selective amnesia. This is not a home run hitting team, and waiting for the three run homer with this bunch is a pipe dream
So those are the choices? Bunt in the first inning with no outs and a runner in scoring position, or wait for a 3 run homer?
I’ll go with option “C” play the game right and swing with a runner in scoring position. A single scores that guy and prolongs the inning.
I don’t agree with bunting with no outs and a runner at 2nd especially with a hitter that can go the other way like Prado, but if Prado had made an out without advancing the runner people would’ve been on here complaining about not moving the runner to 3rd!!
TNPaul @11:24 & 11:27 – It’s your oppinion that a sacrifice bund is the wrong move. Ends don’t justify the means, but it’s certainly debatable about the best means…especially a team with a low RISP. I personally don’t disagree with the call, whether it was Fredi, or Prado…but then some look for any opportunity to trash Fredi.
I know it’s cute and all, but sometimes I wonder if it really was a good idea to teach old people how to use the internet. I love getting emails from my mom where she copies the location of a picture in her “My Documents” folder and sends me a link, it’s always good for a chuckle. I worry about her going to any blogs or message boards, though… I’d guess internet-induced strokes and heart attacks are going to end up putting a big burden on the health care system if the trend continues.
Just me, but I don’t see the Brewers as a team that will ever(this season) try to bunt a runner over to 3rd with no one out in the 1st inning, they are like the Saints in football(believe in their offense) they don’t want to kick a field goal if they can score a TD. Braves are more like “we’ll take the 3 points(early run) and we’ll play defense”(pitching). Differing philosophies based on personnel and coaching styles. More hitting in the future and better SP may inspire a change in philosphy.
Yeah Murph….. What the hell, Can’t believe you’d go off topic on the blog!!! Stay on point if it’s not about Baseball or Art then it’s notLew blog approved.
Murph, some people can’t ignore things they read… So they ignore you entirely, but then respond to something you post by saying they’re ignoring you… makes lots of since to me???
You guys are hilarious! We have to go back two years? The blogs are up there, saved for your perusal. I have an EXCELLENT memory, and recall the myriad of rants, where bloggers were crucifying Cox two seasons ago, and Fredi last year, for not moving runners into scoring position with less than two outs.
On a day when Chipper is not playing this week, you have potentially FIVE bats – SS, 3B, 1B, 2B, & LF – where productivity has yet to be established this season. Honestly, which team are you watching and just what the hell do you expect from what is basically the same darn team from the past three seasons!
The Detroit Tigers are in the AL, guys & gals. There’s NO confusing that lot with THIS team.
Lew and nolie seem to think sometimes the blog is their lawn, and we’re all the neighborhood kids cutting across it to get to the fields.
They can call people names and shake their canes at all of us, act like they are above it all, but they forget that they too once enjoyed doing things that didn’t involve getting enough fiber or an afternoon nap.
Like I said though, doesn’t really bother me. I’ll continue to cut across their lawn, and might even drop a flaming bag of dog doodie on their porch from time to time.
After the Prado bunt, moving Bourn to third, the Brewers played back, conceding the run. They knew it was just the first inning and one run was’t going to be the game.
I can’t see the harm in debating the bunt/don’t bunt with a man on second, no outs,first inning….. Especially with a guy that can hit the ball hard to the right side.
If your gonna give up an out there every time bat the Rev there, he seems to be able to hit a grounder to second at will.
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bravofan
April 16th, 2012
8:51 am
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bravofan
April 16th, 2012
8:52 am
Oops so the 8th is when the ceremony for smoltzie is ?
flange1
April 16th, 2012
8:52 am
Congratulations Smoltzie!
richbrave
April 16th, 2012
8:53 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
MISSISSIPPI
Who would have thought last night with the score tied 3-3 going into the top of the ninth that this game was exactly half over? The Bandits stagger into the winners column by pushing home the winning run in the top of the 16th, then hold on in the bottom of the frame for a 4-3 victory
2B PHIL GOSSELIN [.318 BA] and 1B IAN GAC [.372 BA] provide the effective offense. GAC’s solo blast in the top of the sixteenth is the deciding run.
Everyone who got a hit:
Lead-off CF MYC JONES [.125], 3B JOE LEONARD [.273 BA - 2 BB], C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.211 BA], and LF ADAM MILLIGAN [.172 BA] all had a single apiece, but nothing to show for it.
SS AL SIMMONS [.346 BA] 1-6, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 SO.
2B PHIL GOSSELIN [.318 BA] 3-6, 2 R, 1 2B [3], 1 RBI [3], 1 BB, 1 SO.
1B IAN GAC [.372 BA] 4-7, 1 R, 2 2B [5], 1 HR [2], 3 RBI [9], 2 SO, 1 CS [1]. The 2003 RANGERS pick is having a heck of a season so far as a newbie.
Seven pitchers used including back-up 1B BARRETT KLEINKNECHT [.188 BA; W 1-0, 0.00 ERA] who pitched the last two innings and hurled one-hit shutout work with two SO.
LHSP LUIS AVILAN [2.08 ERA] 5.0 IP two-hit ball, five walks and five strike outs. A little wild, but much improved this season to this point.
LHRP RICHARD SULLIVAN [H 1, 9.64 ERA] 0.1 IP, 3 H, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 1 SO. RICHARD continues to disappoint, and his career is not going well.
RHRP ANDY RUSSELL [BS 1, 0.00 ERA] 1.2 IP, 2 H, zeros, 3 SO.
RHRP RYAN BUCHTER [4.26 ERA] 2.0 IP, 3 H, zeros, 3 SO. Excellente!
RHRP BILLY BULLOCK [0.96 ERA] 4.0 IP, 2 H, 2 BB, 4 SO. Marvelous long-relief stint.
LHRP CHRIS JONES [4.91 ERA] has a bit of redemption going 1.0 IP of perfect work.
And of course, BARRETT to the rescue to finish out the game.
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BravesRealFan
April 16th, 2012
9:09 am
Hey DOB, how about writing about Dan Uggla’s and Freddie Freeman’s Struggles huh. Why the need to write about Michael Bourne and Jason Heyward after 1 week.
Something deeper you’re not telling us?
BravesRealFan
April 16th, 2012
9:10 am
its maybe the fact that the white guys have a history of turning things around but the black guys do not?
Arkansas Transplant
April 16th, 2012
9:27 am
Good morning everyone, nice to see Heyward finding some success. Now if we could just figure out how to get that Durbin guy going… what a mess.
Jeff R
April 16th, 2012
9:30 am
2. Ryan Braun needs to come out with the “real story” behind his PEDS situation. He was booed every time he got close to the ball and when he came up to bat. Folks think he is guilty.
I understand your point, flange1, but folks thinking Braun is guilty and Braun being guilty are two separate issues. Braun has a PR problem, not a legal one at this juncture.
David O'Brien
April 16th, 2012
9:31 am
Hey DOB, how about writing about Dan Uggla’s and Freddie Freeman’s Struggles huh. Why the need to write about Michael Bourne and Jason Heyward after 1 week. — RealBravesFan
When did I write about Jason Heyward struggling?
I do recall pointing out that Freeman’s nine strikeouts (at that time; the figure has since risen) ranked among the most in the majors, but don’t recall writing that Heyward was struggling. If I pointed out anything, it was that he was one of many on the team struggling very early against lefties, and that most of the them struggled against lefties last season, too.
Arkansas Transplant
April 16th, 2012
9:35 am
Truthfully, it’s not even our job to judge whether or not Braun is guilty. His employer (mlb) has made that judgement, now it’s time to move on. Why demonize the guy, as a Braves fan and a fan of the game, I’d still love to see him man LF for us if there was a possibility. He seems to be a very genuine guy, let’s move on and allow him to move on.
Jeff R
April 16th, 2012
9:36 am
Judgest not where Uggla and Freeman start. Judgest where they finish.
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
9:37 am
Jason Heyward after is first 9 games in…
______AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_HR__H/AB
2010 .303 .410 .667 1.077 03 10/33
2011 .259 .429 .593 1.021 02 07/27
2012 .345 .424 .655 1.079 02 10/29
The real test for this guy will come over the long haul.
Roman Gal
April 16th, 2012
9:38 am
We went so long without having any new numbers put up, but after next year we’ll have had 5 in a row.
How special.
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
9:38 am
Why demonize the guy, as a Braves fan and a fan of the game, I’d still love to see him man LF for us if there was a possibility.
Until he plays LF for the Braves, he shall be demonized.
monty
April 16th, 2012
9:39 am
For those of you who didn’t know, Chipper was selected into the FLorida High School Association Sports Hall of Fame this past March, I believe it was. I heard about this, I believe, on one of the ESPN games this spring when one announcer told the other about it which prompted a pretty comical response for their taking so long,”Wow, tough Hall!” Chipper was a standout pitcher in high school but obviously someone made the right call for him as a hitter.
Arkansas Transplant
April 16th, 2012
9:42 am
Until he plays LF for the Braves, he shall be demonized.
Point taken.
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
9:44 am
Freddie Freeman after is first 9 games in…
______AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS_HR__H/AB
2011 .172 .250 .207 .457 00 05/29
2012 .162 .205 .189 .394 00 06/37
Just so I can be appropriately labeled as an all around hater by Ef. ( :
jeffrey d
April 16th, 2012
9:45 am
What’d I miss with Samantha and Lee?
Danga
April 16th, 2012
9:46 am
but folks thinking Braun is guilty and Braun being guilty are two separate issues. Braun has a PR problem, not a legal one at this juncture.
Dude got off on a technicality. It isn’t as if he was exonerated. He used, but he beat the rap.
monty
April 16th, 2012
9:46 am
Ryan Braun is one of the best pure hitters of all time. Barring injuries he will be in the HOF. He will put up the same big numbers this year and for many years to come dispelling any notion that he was juiced. Just enjoy him, except when he plays the Bravos.
Efrim
April 16th, 2012
9:48 am
The real test for this guy will come over the long haul.
Hater.
Just so I can be appropriately labeled as an all around hater by Ef. ( :
Okay, I take it back.
Bat Masterson
April 16th, 2012
9:49 am
Nothing wrong with people having an opinion about Braun. From what I understand his defense was there was some ambiguity in the rules and he exploited that.
I seem to recall he had 2 samples, both we’re dirty and neither had been visually tampered with. Maybe I’m wrong about that………..
jeffrey d
April 16th, 2012
9:52 am
I don’t get why this process has been made so complicated. Either it’s tainted or it’s not. Tons of people take drug tests every day
Danga
April 16th, 2012
9:53 am
dispelling any notion that he was juiced.
Or fueling the rumors that he has found away to beat the test.
Efrim
April 16th, 2012
9:54 am
I still need to see more from Heyward too. To be honest, I need to see a full season from the kid. Even if he is at .900 in June, I’m not going to be screaming for him to be offered a Carlos Gonzalez extension. Gotta put in six healthy months – that is more important than anything.
And even now, I’ll still be content with a .810 -.830 OPS.
David O'Brien
April 16th, 2012
9:55 am
For those of you who didn’t know, Chipper was selected into the FLorida High School Association Sports Hall of Fame this past March, I believe it was. I heard about this, I believe, on one of the ESPN games this spring when one announcer told the other about it which prompted a pretty comical response for their taking so long,”Wow, tough Hall!” Chipper was a standout pitcher in high school but obviously someone made the right call for him as a hitter. — Monty
March 29, this blog:
… Much of the funny stuff one hears in the clubhouse or dugout isn’t printable here. Here’s a couple of things I heard this week that are (well, slightly censored and perhaps slightly altered).
Standing with Gonzalez and ESPN write Jayson Stark on the field during batting practice, a slip of paper I’d had in my notebook fell out. I picked it up, mentioned what it said – that Chipper Jones would be inducted into the Florida high school athletic hall of fame on April 29.
“Damn, he’s not in that already?” Gonzalez said. “That’s a tough hall of fame.”
He had a point.
richbrave
April 16th, 2012
9:55 am
BravesRealFan
April 16th, 2012
9:10 am
“……..its maybe the fact that the white guys have a history of turning things around but the black guys do not?……….”
PLUEEZE. Any geneticist will tell you we as humans are all sub-sets of the same species. DNA-speaking, there’s very little variation between the races. It’s more a matter of climactic factors that give us the various colorations in our skin and the few anatonomical features of difference.
Another theory, didn’t I read somewhere that all humans were originally the same? And that the Tower of Babel had something to do with the changes of language and difference we now have on earth.
monty
April 16th, 2012
10:02 am
Thanks DOB!
flange1
April 16th, 2012
10:05 am
Jeff R,
That is my point! Braun has a massive PR problem that is only going to get better is he changes the fan’s mind about what happened.
From a legal perspective, he is not guilty, from the fan’s opinion, he is guilty.
He can help end his problems by telling his story.
monty
April 16th, 2012
10:08 am
Maybe Braun has been juicing since the beginning of his minor league days or maybe since college days, all I know is he hit a HR every 19 AB’s in the minors and every 18 AB’s in the bigs. All of his coaches say he is a role model kind of guy, where is the spike? (if he is was juicing) He certainly doesn’t have the look of a juicer. Now if he hits only 20 HR’s this year, then humm.
Jeff R
April 16th, 2012
10:09 am
Dude [Braun] got off on a technicality. It isn’t as if he was exonerated. He used, but he beat the rap.
Braun worked within the parameters set up by the MLB. Blame the MLB for “technicalities” that worked to Braun’s advantage. Nonetheless, Braun’s problem now is PR. Braun and his agent should sit down with a good PR pro and figure it out… or, perhaps, just let it blow away over time.
Jeff R
April 16th, 2012
10:12 am
flange1,
You’re right. It may help Braun to tell his story. Or it may just extend the life of an incident that Braun would prefer fade away over time. I think there’s something to clearing the air for Braun, but he might have wanted to have done so soon after he was off the hook rather than waiting and waiting.
jeffrey d
April 16th, 2012
10:13 am
The difference between people is more a result of upbringing than skin color
Bat Masterson
April 16th, 2012
10:14 am
From a “legal” perspective his sample may not have been handled correctly 100%. Although the courier followed the rules for keeping the sample secure.
He claims could havehave tampered with it or it was degraded in some way. I’m not aware of him claiming under oath that he did not use something.
Murph
April 16th, 2012
10:14 am
Was I seeing things this weekend or did Diaz actually hit a HR? I cannot believe my eyes!
Durbin must be close to being released. My guess is he doesn’t last the month of April. The guy is worse than Proctor, and that’s saying a lot about how bad he really is.
Can’t say enough good things about Minor, Beachy, and Heyward. Great weekend o’ baseball!
Bat Masterson
April 16th, 2012
10:14 am
Someone could have*
monty
April 16th, 2012
10:16 am
My thoughts on Heyward are he has been injured in back-to-back years which over time affected his swing mechanics which in turn eroded his confidence and everyone who knows anything about hitting, or thought they did, put a bug in his ear. This year he is healthy and he’s not even dicussing his swing with anyone on the outside . I look for a big year provided he doesn’t get injured again.
And FF has been hitting some lazer beams right at folks, but that said, his swing looks a little tilted to me, needs to flatten it out some.
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
10:17 am
And even now, I’ll still be content with a .810 -.830 OPS.
hater. Also setting such a low bar for the guy
richbrave
April 16th, 2012
10:18 am
jeffrey d
April 16th, 2012
10:13 am
“…..The difference between people is more a result of upbringing than skin color…..”
Thank you for that voice of reason!
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
10:20 am
Can’t say enough good things about Minor, Beachy, and Heyward. Great weekend o’ baseball!
Fitting my least favorite starter, Mike “Polished” Minor was the first Braves starter to actually pitch like a big leaguer this season and go 7 innings. I was glad to see Beachy rising up and matching that. I can only hope that inspired Hanson and Jurrjens to drop the crutches and try for a major league starting pitcher outing this week.
bravofan
April 16th, 2012
10:20 am
Please like this Thanks Chipper page. Just follow the link
http://www.facebook.com/ThanksChipper
monty
April 16th, 2012
10:24 am
TP-”I can only hope that inspired Hanson and Jurrjens to drop the crutches and try for a major league starting pitcher outing this week.”
Put on their Big-Boy pants! That said, they have been “working on things” as they say. New delivery for TH and knee brace? for JJ.
ncscoots
April 16th, 2012
10:28 am
I can only hope that inspired Hanson and Jurrjens to drop the crutches and try for a major league starting pitcher outing this week.
With a sneer audible to me a hundred miles away, TennPaul drops the wicked hammer on the starting vets, LOL.
Danga
April 16th, 2012
10:28 am
Durbin must be close to being released
Not with his streak of appearances with homers intact. We must see where this ends.
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
10:28 am
Also can’t help but notice this team started winning once the bat-licker was dropped from the roster.
Danga
April 16th, 2012
10:29 am
Beachy and Minor were definite positives. If that becomes a trend it will help this team a ton. This ain’t last year’s bullpen.
Danga
April 16th, 2012
10:30 am
Also can’t help but notice this team started winning once the bat-licker was dropped from the roster.
The subtraction of Constanza obviously greater than the addition of Larry Wayne.
Chris from the Rock
April 16th, 2012
10:31 am
5 words I can’t wait to hear: Chad Durbin designated for assignment
Mixxo
April 16th, 2012
10:32 am
We need Durbin!
….to make things interesting with a 6 run lead.
Murph
April 16th, 2012
10:33 am
Tomorrow’s game ought to be an interesting one… Delgado vs Santana. Delgado is the guy who rises to the occasion, and the team now knows what to expect from Santana. I’m hoping the bats really bring Johan back down to earth.
Danga
April 16th, 2012
10:35 am
With all the good news from the weekend, I still let fly a string of expletives when Prado laid down that bunt with no one out and Bourn on second yesterday.
ncscoots
April 16th, 2012
10:35 am
Durbin must be close to being released
He looks pretty feeble, and that’s a fact, but they aren’t going to drop him after three appearances. They’ll try to straighten him out, first. And while I have my doubts about that particular outcome, the team is still likely to try that route before cutting him loose.
Murph
April 16th, 2012
10:36 am
I know it’s too early in 2012 to tell, but it appears that Minor is getting back on track with his “bad start, good start, bad start” thing.
I wouldn’t put much money on the Braves next Thursday when Minor gets the start in AZ… save it for his next appearance.
jeffrey d
April 16th, 2012
10:36 am
I thought Melky was the bat licker?
monty
April 16th, 2012
10:39 am
Danga-”Not with his streak of appearances with homers intact. We must see where this ends.”
The easy money is on Durbin. Only thing that could keep him from the record would be for mgmt. to fuddle it up.
ncscoots
April 16th, 2012
10:39 am
I still let fly a string of expletives when Prado laid down that bunt with no one out and Bourn on second yesterday.
Yeah, I know. But it didn’t really look to me like a straight-up sac. I guess it’s possible Prado was trying to bunt for a hit while willing to take the out, worst case. Dunno.
(I agree that bleep gets a little irritating, though.)
Bat Masterson
April 16th, 2012
10:40 am
Melky ate stuff off his bat
Biff sniffs and licks
Murph
April 16th, 2012
10:40 am
I’m going to go ahead and make a prediction on Durbin’s next appearance:
1 IP, 4 ER, 1 HR, 1 K
He’s been progressively worse each time he takes the mound (1ER, 2ER, 3ER) while showing zero signs of being a guy the team can put any trust in.
Gearrin, Flande, Byrd when he gets off the DL… all guys I’d feel more comfortable seeing the in bullpen.
monty
April 16th, 2012
10:43 am
“I still let fly a string of expletives when Prado laid down that bunt with no one out and Bourn on second yesterday.”
My tippin’ point was when the radio guys announced Durbin was warming up in the pen to come in and close before we pushed across those last 2 runs. I almost had to pull the car over and compose myself. It was at that point I lost some respect for FG.
ncscoots
April 16th, 2012
10:44 am
1 IP, 4 ER, 1 HR, 1 K
Just have to make sure the team has a five-run lead, then.
At least, it appears Fredo has the right role in mind for him.
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
10:47 am
I guess it’s possible Prado was trying to bunt for a hit while willing to take the out, worst case. Dunno.
What? I didn’t see this, but Prado is bunting with first base open?!?! That has got to stop. There is absolutely no need for this. The runner at second is in scoring position already.
Here’s an idea Prado, hit a single, double, triple, HR and knock him in… or just a well struck ball to the right side of the field. Don’t bunt.
Bat Masterson
April 16th, 2012
10:49 am
I didn’t care for that bunt either. The only positive I could see is they got the one run they played for. Progress I suppose
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
10:50 am
At least, it appears Fredo has the right role in mind for him.
Durbin is the Kimbrel stat padder. A blow out, made close, so Kimbrel can get a save.
Also, it hides the brilliance of the rest of the team from the cursory stat crunchers… “I don’t expect much from the Braves. They don’t have a big run differential.”
Murph
April 16th, 2012
10:52 am
It was at that point I lost some respect for FG.
Can a person have negative respect or does respect have a hard floor at zero?
The team is winning, so it’s hard to question the leadership, but Fredi still leaves me shaking my head more often than not.
Efrim
April 16th, 2012
10:53 am
Yes, after the Bourn leadoff double, Prado was moving him over to third base with a sac bunt. Just awful. First inning with no outs. So stupid.
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
10:56 am
First inning with no outs
Holy sh!t that is stupid. Now I’m starting to understand Frank’s desire to find a new “third baseman of the future.” They one they have now is just giving the game away for no reason.
Murph
April 16th, 2012
10:58 am
You think Prado did that on his own?
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
11:03 am
Now, I’m not one to “call out” anyone. Particularly DOB cause he does a bang up job. So no one take it this way… Not seeking a sit-em-down-and-grill-em question either. But, if that happens again, I’d be stoked if DOB slid the question in there casually… “So, that bunt with a runner in scoring position and no outs early in the game, was that Prado’s call?”… probably wouldn’t come off good that way. Maybe just a “Was that bunt in the first the hitters call?”
I’m just curious to know if Prado is doing this on his own or if Fredi is calling for it. I like to think I’m fair minded so I want to know on whom I should focus my angst.
Jeff R
April 16th, 2012
11:04 am
Minor is young. Making the jump from college/minor league baseball is pretty big. It takes time for most players/pitchers to learn the ropes at the major league level.
Was it Fredi Gonzalez that DOB quoted about a young pitcher needing to make 30 starts or so before he really begins to get the major league game and develops his confidence?
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
11:05 am
You think Prado did that on his own?
I don’t know Murph. After calming down from my first reaction from reading the report… I’m willing to wait and see if we can get more on this. I do know that sometimes players do that on their own. I recall LaRoche attempting a bunt once on his own with disastrous consequences. I’ve also noticed Prado in the two hole essentially has turned him into a pitcher. Which by the way, if this is Fredi’s goal, he should just move his pitcher up there if all he’s going to do is bank on a bunt once the lead off man is on..
Danga
April 16th, 2012
11:10 am
If Prado did that on his own, then his coach needs to step and do some coaching. As much as Fredo loves the sac bunt, I just figured it was his doing.
Lew
April 16th, 2012
11:12 am
Did it ever occur to y’all geniuses that the bunt was called for and not something Prado did on his own?
Lew
April 16th, 2012
11:13 am
And it did lead to a sacricice fly and a run, giving the Braves a first inning lead.
Murph
April 16th, 2012
11:16 am
Did it ever occur to y’all geniuses that the bunt was called for and not something Prado did on his own?
Actually yes, which is why I asked the question earlier.
Or were you referring to the other geniuses?
monty
April 16th, 2012
11:16 am
“I’d be stoked if DOB slid the question in there casually… “So, that bunt with a runner in scoring position and no outs early in the game, was that Prado’s call?”
The question I would loved asked, maybe something like this…”so Chipper, what was your initial reaction to FG bringing Durbin in to pitch the 9th” – Chipper non-responsive, has that deer caught in the headlights look. Looks to his left, then to his right, shuffles his feet as his face turns bright red.Collects his thoughts and finally says,”yeh we need to get Chad going.”
Lew
April 16th, 2012
11:17 am
No Murph – I just quit reading your stuff since the whole soap opera attack.
Efrim
April 16th, 2012
11:18 am
Did it ever occur to y’all geniuses that the bunt was called for and not something Prado did on his own?
Because I like Prado, I am hoping that Fredi called for it.
Lew
April 16th, 2012
11:21 am
Yep – Bad, bad move putting a runner at third with one out and our heavy hitters coming to bat.
monty
April 16th, 2012
11:22 am
What’s the old saying, “get um on, get um over and get um in”. Prado lays down the bunt gets Bourne to 3rd and receives high-fives from his teamates in the dugout. If he doesn’t get the runner over to 3rd it’s a bad AB. If he does, it’s considered a good one.(conventional baseball wisdom,rule 101)
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
11:24 am
Did it ever occur to y’all geniuses that the bunt was called for and not something Prado did on his own?
Doesn’t make it the right move regardless. And I think several have asked for clarity as to if it is Prado or Fredi behind the foolishness.
And it did lead to a sacricice fly and a run, giving the Braves a first inning lead.
So you are saying the ends justified the means?
Murph
April 16th, 2012
11:24 am
No hairs off my sack, Lew. Whatever floats your boat.
MiaBchBravesFan
April 16th, 2012
11:25 am
I’d be interested to see what the collective slugging percentage is for the team. Because those of you who are trashing Fredi for bunting and moving runners into scoring position have selective amnesia. This is not a home run hitting team, and waiting for the three run homer with this bunch is a pipe dream. Over the long haul of this season, putting a runner at third with less than two outs will be of greater benefit than praying for a big inning.
This teams reminds me of an old Pontiac inline eight engine – except for the fact that on any given day, four of the pistons run while the other four are dropped. Funnier yet, as the dropped pistons somehow repair themselves, the other four suddenly become dropped. As much as I do not see eye-to-eye with Fredi on many things, not least of which is the way he handles his pitching, his desire to bunt, move runners, and play situational small ball will benefit this team over the next 153 games.
veer
April 16th, 2012
11:26 am
I am not too optimistic about the Mets series especially with Jurrjens and Delgado pitching.
A lot of you are all over Durbin well Jurrjens deserves the same treatment.
Durbin is atleast a mop up man but Jurrjens is aiming to be a 15 game loser.
Lew
April 16th, 2012
11:26 am
Why don’t y’all try finding something REALLY worth bitching about instqed of creating a tempest in a tea cup? You’re not happy when they “wait” on 3 run HRs. You’re not happy when they pkay small ball. Not happy when they lose, not happy when they win. Don’t like how they run the draft, who they draft, etc.
Whatever.
Lew
April 16th, 2012
11:27 am
Murph -= Well, it obviously wasn’t floating with that soap opera crud the other day.
TennesseePaul
April 16th, 2012
11:27 am
Because those of you who are trashing Fredi for bunting and moving runners into scoring position have selective amnesia. This is not a home run hitting team, and waiting for the three run homer with this bunch is a pipe dream
So those are the choices? Bunt in the first inning with no outs and a runner in scoring position, or wait for a 3 run homer?
I’ll go with option “C” play the game right and swing with a runner in scoring position. A single scores that guy and prolongs the inning.
raleighbravefan
April 16th, 2012
11:28 am
Haters have calmed down, which is a good thing.
Still rumblings about trying to manufacture runs (on a team that has trouble scoring runs) vs trying to knock people in, preferably with power.
Rumbling about use/misuse of bullpen…do you overuse the good guys, or blow the game with Durbin, etc.
all better than the personal attacks and bucket of misery talk.
At least for now, I think it’s time for the Chipper and Heyward haters to STFU, and maybe even time to cut Fredi a little slack.
Lew
April 16th, 2012
11:28 am
Anyway – I’m gone. All I’l do is end up in a fight today, so see y’all later.
CrαZy
April 16th, 2012
11:28 am
I don’t agree with bunting with no outs and a runner at 2nd especially with a hitter that can go the other way like Prado, but if Prado had made an out without advancing the runner people would’ve been on here complaining about not moving the runner to 3rd!!
raleighbravefan
April 16th, 2012
11:32 am
TNPaul @11:24 & 11:27 – It’s your oppinion that a sacrifice bund is the wrong move. Ends don’t justify the means, but it’s certainly debatable about the best means…especially a team with a low RISP. I personally don’t disagree with the call, whether it was Fredi, or Prado…but then some look for any opportunity to trash Fredi.
Murph
April 16th, 2012
11:33 am
I know it’s cute and all, but sometimes I wonder if it really was a good idea to teach old people how to use the internet. I love getting emails from my mom where she copies the location of a picture in her “My Documents” folder and sends me a link, it’s always good for a chuckle. I worry about her going to any blogs or message boards, though… I’d guess internet-induced strokes and heart attacks are going to end up putting a big burden on the health care system if the trend continues.
Blogs, the silent killer.
raleighbravefan
April 16th, 2012
11:33 am
CraZy @ 11:28 – Complaining may be the biggest understatement of the day.
monty
April 16th, 2012
11:36 am
Just me, but I don’t see the Brewers as a team that will ever(this season) try to bunt a runner over to 3rd with no one out in the 1st inning, they are like the Saints in football(believe in their offense) they don’t want to kick a field goal if they can score a TD. Braves are more like “we’ll take the 3 points(early run) and we’ll play defense”(pitching). Differing philosophies based on personnel and coaching styles. More hitting in the future and better SP may inspire a change in philosphy.
CrαZy
April 16th, 2012
11:36 am
Yeah Murph….. What the hell, Can’t believe you’d go off topic on the blog!!! Stay on point if it’s not about Baseball or Art then it’s not
Lewblog approved.raleighbravefan
April 16th, 2012
11:39 am
Murph – Careful…richbrave, nolie, Lew, and I, amoung others, may take that personally.
CrαZy
April 16th, 2012
11:39 am
Murph, some people can’t ignore things they read… So they ignore you entirely, but then respond to something you post by saying they’re ignoring you… makes lots of since to me???
MiaBchBravesFan
April 16th, 2012
11:40 am
You guys are hilarious! We have to go back two years? The blogs are up there, saved for your perusal. I have an EXCELLENT memory, and recall the myriad of rants, where bloggers were crucifying Cox two seasons ago, and Fredi last year, for not moving runners into scoring position with less than two outs.
On a day when Chipper is not playing this week, you have potentially FIVE bats – SS, 3B, 1B, 2B, & LF – where productivity has yet to be established this season. Honestly, which team are you watching and just what the hell do you expect from what is basically the same darn team from the past three seasons!
The Detroit Tigers are in the AL, guys & gals. There’s NO confusing that lot with THIS team.
Keep bunting, Fredi!!!
Murph
April 16th, 2012
11:40 am
Lew and nolie seem to think sometimes the blog is their lawn, and we’re all the neighborhood kids cutting across it to get to the fields.
They can call people names and shake their canes at all of us, act like they are above it all, but they forget that they too once enjoyed doing things that didn’t involve getting enough fiber or an afternoon nap.
Like I said though, doesn’t really bother me. I’ll continue to cut across their lawn, and might even drop a flaming bag of dog doodie on their porch from time to time.
It’s what us kids do.
Jimmy
April 16th, 2012
11:44 am
After the Prado bunt, moving Bourn to third, the Brewers played back, conceding the run. They knew it was just the first inning and one run was’t going to be the game.
I didn’t understand it. And still don’t.
But I’d like to know who made the call.
Bat Masterson
April 16th, 2012
11:44 am
I can’t see the harm in debating the bunt/don’t bunt with a man on second, no outs,first inning….. Especially with a guy that can hit the ball hard to the right side.
If your gonna give up an out there every time bat the Rev there, he seems to be able to hit a grounder to second at will.