Braves blow early lead, fall to 0-4 with loss to Astros

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reckingball

April 10th, 2012
12:00 pm

I have told no one to shut up and enjoy.
I have merely stated, that most of the people like you, do not represent the majority of the Brave’s fans.

Go Braves!

Larry

April 10th, 2012
12:01 pm

“care” enough to so so here…

Brave Hokie

April 10th, 2012
12:02 pm

It’s April 10th, & the Braves ~ SUCK!

schmidt08

April 10th, 2012
12:02 pm

Gearin should get a call-up soon. Durbin and Hernandez are not working right now. Will wait to see how chipper does if he plays tonight, but we all knew what we were getting with Francisco. Hope for an end to this stretch tonight, still have hope though.

Lefty

April 10th, 2012
12:03 pm

How’s Frank Wren feeling about his cheap buys-Hands Francisco, Pitch and Duck Hernandez and I’ll Go Anywhere Durbin. Does the GM go into a cave all through off season, come out in the spring and declare his bevy of Triple AAA talent suddenly developed major league tools overwnight? Wrong.

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:03 pm

Apathy and indifference, not love or anger, are the hardest things to overcome in business…you have to actuallu care to like or dislike a product, service or form of entertainment like the Braves.
LARRY
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Yep. Exactly. True in communities too.

Fire FG and FW!!

rogerash

April 10th, 2012
12:03 pm

stop already PEOPLE!!!!! its 4 games out of 162 the braves will be good and in the playoffs my boy chipper is back tonight…..go bravos

J-MAN

April 10th, 2012
12:04 pm

@ Reckingball and DOB maybe just maybe the fact that we choked up a 10 1/2 game lead and did nothing in the off-season and then start off to an 0-4 start to perhaps the 2 WORST TEAMS in the entire MLB. has caused the angry fans to become the MAJORITY. Maybe were tired of lackluster effort and poor situational hitting. Maybe we are tired of “Tipping our Cap” maybe we want a team that takes accountabliity and pushes themselves to get better instead of tipping their cap. But then again I guess that would put blame on your Buddy Fredi Gonzalez.

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:06 pm

rogerash is experiencing early onset dementia….

varoadrunner

April 10th, 2012
12:08 pm

Many questions linger after Monday’s game. WHY WHY WHY and they’re all directed to Fredi. Maybe Fredi wanted to see what Francisco has to offer….let’s hope he saw the answer to that question and sends him somewhere. Why use Hernandez again while not letting the big three even throw a pitch. Clearly they were overworked last year but a pitcher can be underworked too. If Heyward is our right-fielder, then let him play. Let him see lefties.

Today’s game might answer some questions – whether Fredi is a deer looking into the headlights or a real manager. Seems that being Bobby Cox’s “buddy” might not be enough of a resume to qualify. Time will tell……hopefully I’m praising Fredi as the season progresses but as of now, to me he’s looking like he’s making some poor decisions.

Jury is still out on Pastornicki (??)

A good combination of Rookies/young players and older players who no longer have IT. I’m not sure what Chipper has left in the tank. I’d love to see him go out with one of his best seasons. Go Chipper, at this point that’s all I have to root for. Tuesday’s going to be a WIN. (cautious optimism)

dogsbrekky

April 10th, 2012
12:08 pm

I would like to see Gearrin and Flande on the mlb team but given the low-down bottom drawer purchases of Livan and Durbin my wishes are unlikely to come true.. still HOSS is back and we get Huddy soon.. maybe we should have saved those $$$ from the bottom drawer and added some more and bought a real BIG BAT for LF and played Prado at 3rd all year ….. when HOSS plays he can run around in LF (could he still run around ????)

Carl Farvman

April 10th, 2012
12:08 pm

“So tired of the “Its a long season” comments after early season losses”

I’ve always been amused by the mindset that believes early season losses are not as important as late season losses as a team fights to win a playoff spot. Somebody please explain why a bad run in April somehow has little bearing on a team fighting for its life in late September?

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:08 pm

A bevy of “Go Braves” chants isn’t going to fix this mess….

if only.

schmidt08

April 10th, 2012
12:09 pm

I Hope Chipper is 100% if he plays tonight and doesn’t rush back. we will need him more later than now….

J-MAN

April 10th, 2012
12:10 pm

A loss in April counts the SAME as any other time.

TDalmore

April 10th, 2012
12:11 pm

If they go to 0-10 will they then be saying, “it’s just 10 games into the season”?

At what point do they stop acting like these losses are meaningless?

J-MAN

April 10th, 2012
12:11 pm

The only thing to “Fix this mess”…………is EFFORT, not “Tipping our Caps”

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:11 pm

Carl Farvman

April 10th, 2012
12:08 pm

“So tired of the “Its a long season” comments after early season losses”

I’ve always been amused by the mindset that believes early season losses are not as important as late season losses as a team fights to win a playoff spot. Somebody please explain why a bad run in April somehow has little bearing on a team fighting for its life in late September?
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They can’t since it does….

CrαZy

April 10th, 2012
12:13 pm

2012 Baseball fan logic: When a player isn’t playing good on MLB the Show 12 I trade him for someone better… Why can’t Frank do something to fix the problem??

Casey Stinkle

April 10th, 2012
12:13 pm

This team started going down hill the day they let Omar Infante go.

J-MAN

April 10th, 2012
12:14 pm

These fans the say its only 4 games are like that black knight from monty python and the holy grail…………..Tis only a Flesh wound.

reckingball

April 10th, 2012
12:14 pm

J-MAN @12:04…..”0-4 start to perhaps the 2 WORST TEAM in the entire MLB”
Hey man, the Mets are in 1st place in the NLEast, and the Astros are in 2nd in their div. haha

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:14 pm

The good news is that all 4 games were all but over by the 9th inning…..

For us, a 2 run deficit is equivalent to trying to jump up out of the grand canyon.

Fire someone!!

Ken Stallings

April 10th, 2012
12:15 pm

David,

This team is not 0-4. It must go back to last season’s collapse where they went 9 and 18 in 27 games played in September to crater a 10.5 game lead in the wildcard. Throw that shameful performance into the mix and the brutal truth (pure facts) is that this team is 9 and 22 over their last 31 games. It is a fair point because relatively little of the team changed since last season.

The comments from the players reveal that the team is collectively tired of answering the “last year” questions. Well, there is a sure-fire cure for those blues — win some games! The obsessive and often brutally rude media in New York would be asking those questions repeatedly regardless of how the players acted, and some of those reporters would ask the same questions over and over merely to incite anger and and heartache. I’m glad the Atlanta media do not, but our players should appreciate the difference!

This is also why Skip Caray deserves to be in the hall of fame with the Ford Fricke award. All those hapless Braves teams of the 1980’s, Skip Caray’s wit and charm combined with blunt honesty to encourage Braves fans to tune in night after night to see the team play regardless. When the losing turned to big time winning, that same broadcast team (sans Ernie Johnson, Sr.) made it all the more enjoyable. Our broadcasters today don’t even have that working for us!

I’ve been a full on loyal Braves fan for well over 35 years now. I remember when you could literally buy a ticket day of the game, while being played, and have your choice of moving down to the bench seats and the ushers wouldn’t even stop you as it made the place look fuller, and the fans sound louder having whom was there closer to the TV mics! The prime difference now is that in our “rules are rules” obsessed society, there could be fewer than 5,000 total at a game and the ushers would still stiff arm anyone without the right ticket!

You walk a tightrope, David, of which I don’t envy. Tell the brutal truth about this situation and you risk alienating the team who need to retain access to. Hold back even the smallest elements of criticism and you have bloggers who call you a cheap hack. A tightrope indeed! The truth is we see what you see and your column herein told the brutal truth about as hard as you ever could. Those of us who love this team and love baseball are truly forlorn.

What our logical side told us has turned true. What our optimistic side tried to convince us could happen has already wilted long before the summer heat of August. The Braves of 2012 are frankly not a good team. Great individual pieces, but not a good team.

J-MAN

April 10th, 2012
12:16 pm

Well Frank Wren had the off-season to improve this team and did nothing

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:16 pm

That Guillen is a real piece of work….

What an idiot.

Brave Hokie

April 10th, 2012
12:18 pm

Now that the Braves are [I]the[I] or [I]close to the[I] worse team in baseball… it adds prospective my discontent when they HAD talent and kept pissing it away Oct after Oct…

Like I say every day, the most thankless team to pull for in professional sports…

schmidt08

April 10th, 2012
12:19 pm

No Trade, because we dont want to trade our future away and get some high priced player that we wont be able to sign in the off-season. if the current players arent producing by the end of this month, bring the young guys up and see what they can do. Cant hurt if we are still this bad…

J-MAN

April 10th, 2012
12:19 pm

@ Reckingball I guess your right we just made the METS and Astros better and now we are the worst team in the Majors

Felix

April 10th, 2012
12:19 pm

Back in the eighties again………………

I really, really don’t like the bumbling ‘cisco wearing his hat cockeyed the way he does.

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:20 pm

great, great post, Stallings!

Ozzie-Marlins Manager

April 10th, 2012
12:21 pm

I really dig the communist party of Cuba!! Yeah man! Fidel Castro is my hero!!!

CrαZy

April 10th, 2012
12:21 pm

if the current players arent producing by the end of this month, bring the young guys up and see what they can do. Cant hurt if we are still this bad…

Were the 4th youngest team in baseball… they already are up!!!!

Fats Okelly

April 10th, 2012
12:22 pm

Both the Giants and Phillies are only 1-3 so what is the big deal? The season is so dm long, this wont matter in about a month. If FG goes 0-20, then I would fire him,but right now his hitters all look like 8 Pee Wee Hermans at bat. Not FG’s fault :)

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:23 pm

tip of the cap to CraZy….exactly.

Braves Fan

April 10th, 2012
12:24 pm

I see more hustle & enthusiasm from the Mississippi Braves !

reckingball

April 10th, 2012
12:25 pm

It’s only FOUR GAMES INTO THE SEASON, the 2012 season is not lost.
The 2011 season is on the books(as in over).
One or two of these guys are going to start hitting, and it will catch on with some of the others.
The Braves are not going to win every game, no matter what month of the season it is.
Don’t give up the ship yet.
The Braves are going to start a winning streak tonight.
GO BRAVES! SCORE!

Frank Wren

April 10th, 2012
12:27 pm

Last night Fredi and I sat down and did a complete evaluation of our team. We concluded, just like we did late last year, that there is no need to make any changes.

After diligently devoting a full 10 minutes on that exercise, we went our and partied all night in Houston town!! Yeeeee Hah Baby!!!

CrαZy

April 10th, 2012
12:27 pm

I see more hustle & enthusiasm from the Mississippi Braves!

So you go to Mississippi Braves Games??

alex

April 10th, 2012
12:29 pm

@ stallings, good post, I disagree with “great” individual pieces. Frankly, this tem has some talent but some AAAA starters.

as for ozzie, read a little about batista and the regime before castro…but given the entire situation in s. Fla., he truly is an idiot.

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:29 pm

I see much more hustle and enthusiasm from the local nursing home residents….

And i mean the immobile ones!

2011 is not over….see games 1-4.

Goliath

April 10th, 2012
12:32 pm

I have a question for everybody. Even if the Braves do manage to win a few games, do you HONESTLY think this group of players can step up and compete in ANY type of playoff chase? No, of course not. We all saw what happened last year when the PRESSURE was applied. Now the pressure is on again and they ARE responding in exactly the same way.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
12:32 pm

mlb.com does have a minor league coverage now on MiLB.com

not sure what kind of coverage

Tumbledown

April 10th, 2012
12:33 pm

I truly envy those fans who remain positive that the Braves can turn things around. I would imagine that you all are generally happier people than the rest of us. i simply cannot share much optimism at this point.

The Braves have been trending downward for many years. In the early to mid 90s, the Braves appeared in four World Series and won it all in 1995. From 1997-2001, the team had mixed results in the playoffs with one World Series appearance. From 2002-2005, the Braves reached the playoffs but could not even win one divisional series. From 2006-2009, the Braves failed to reach the playoffs. They made a brief resurgence in 2010-2011, but I fear that it was the final gasp from a decaying franchise. The Braves are like a sinking ship that has made its last attempt to stay afloat, and now it is headed straight for the bottom.

I hope I am wrong.

schmidt08

April 10th, 2012
12:36 pm

True, we are the 4th youngest team in the majors, but just two questions
1) why not have Gearin here as opposed to signing Durbin?
2) why sign Francisco when you could have used Tedro?

could have had both of them up here with similar or even better results

reckingball

April 10th, 2012
12:37 pm

Damn, you sound like the Braves are on the Titanic, talk about doom and gloom.

CrαZy

April 10th, 2012
12:38 pm

do you HONESTLY think this group of players can step up and compete in ANY type of playoff chase?

Not sure about this year but, since we won 89 games as the 3rd youngest team in baseball last year I do think we have the foundation to be a really good team! Do we need a new manager..maybe, but the players for the most part are good I think were just missing a top caliber player like Chipper use to be!!

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
12:39 pm

@Goliath you mean is the the type of Braves team that even if they returned to the good Bobby Cox ball and got to the playoff, would they be anything more than a first round exit?

So there are two parts to this, getting to the playoffs, even as the MLB playoff structure gets more and more hockey like, and then doing anything in the playoff which we have not seen in a LONG time.

The Braves are a casual bring the family out and have a nice time in the sun team and after the game is over, nobody even knows the score. They are just a background to their own feature show. The fans sit. They chop when prodded. Load up on cotton candy and drive back to Tennessee. I’m not even sure it’s about the baseball anymore, just the experience and something to do outside on a nice sunny breezy day.

Ryan

April 10th, 2012
12:40 pm

Ken Stallings, you hit the nail on the head. My frustration is that that was my sediment two years ago, when we heard that this management was not cutting payroll, yet numbers and guesses seem to tell a different story. And some of us asked, we were shouted at for asking, told it was a question that wouldn’t be answered, only to be answered in the Tucker piece. As I said earlier, I truly feel for the players. This team has been covered without tough questions in my, self admitted-meaningless and uneducated opinion over the last couple of years and maybe that
is due to impossible tight rope. The seeds that should have planted are now not producing plants, you know, and fans have no answer because it feels like we were blindsided. I continue to ask, an started over the offseason about Schuerholtz’s letter because I saw this coming and wanted something to give some idea on what were considered the weaknesses so I could have proper perspective. Without it, without an idea of what true budget constraints this team is operating at, it’s really tough to have any kind of opinion either way. I will say this: thank God for Chipper. Cause win or lose, at least most fans that do enjoy all that comes along with the beauty of this game can enjoy Ten one final time. As for the rest, who knows? Maybe this shouldn’t come as any surprise. Again, without questions being asked by anyone, radio and TV included, in the Atl market, it’s hard to really know what realistic expectations should think.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
12:40 pm

“Damn, you sound like the Braves are on the Titanic, talk about doom and gloom.”

Because the collapse put the last 10 years into perspective.

reckingball

April 10th, 2012
12:41 pm

I honestly think that this group can compete in the playoffs, and will not be surprised if they win the WS.

CrαZy

April 10th, 2012
12:42 pm

1) why not have Gearin here as opposed to signing Durbin?
2) why sign Francisco when you could have used Tedro?

1. I agree I’d rather have Gearin, but if Vizcaino and Moylan were healthy I don’t think we would’ve signed either Livan or Durbin

2. They didn’t want Terdo to sit the bench they wanted him to play a full season as an everyday player. He hasn’t played 3rd for a full season and they didn’t want to hurt his development by having him play part time!!

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
12:43 pm

Carlos Beltran was out there for a 2 year contract. Not a peep from this team.

.318 2HR 3RBI 4R 1SB

Enjoy streaky Uggla. He was a gift to Fredi and the last FA signing we’ll see until 2020.

Lobosolo

April 10th, 2012
12:43 pm

Wow, Larry, that all you have to offer? This from a Renaissance Man who was a star athlete, knows the game better than anyone, a stalwart businessman and medical genious? This is all you have? Dude you’re a legend in your own mind… no matter what we do to try to help you see the foibles of your delusions, you just keep sinking into the abyss…Would you like me to get the attention of the Braves’ front office and reccomend you as the tonic for all that ails the team? Surely a man with your self-proclaimed talents could be leading an organization to glory… It’s a GAME armchairs… the Braves owe you NOTHING…

renegade1416

April 10th, 2012
12:44 pm

My problem with Fredi is why would he pick this time to see if a certain player can hit leftys. It’s not the time to experiment when you’re 0-3. Maybe if we’re 3-0 or even 2-1 but not when we really need a win.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
12:44 pm

Terdo is on a fast track. He is skipping AA.

reckingball

April 10th, 2012
12:45 pm

count……..Everyone has a right to be doomy and gloomy, as far as I’m concerned, but Tumbledown, did make it sound like the Braves are riding on the Titanic, and I don’t think that things are that bad, but that is my opin.
GO Braves!

Tumbledown

April 10th, 2012
12:46 pm

I sure hope that you are right reckingball and I am dead wrong.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
12:48 pm

Francisco got a hit against the lefty.
Diaz did not. 1 walk and a FC.

Let Prado play every day in LF. Let Heyward play everyday in RF. Chipper and Juan at 3b.

Diaz gets no more starts. He’s an oaf in the field with the range of a brick and a Juan Pierre arm and no power. He’s a $2.1m pinch hitter.

I like Juan, so the errors hurt, but… screw it. Let the players know their role and get into a groove.

jer

April 10th, 2012
12:48 pm

If this is what Liberty plans to do with their low-ball budget for stray cats dropped by other teams for the Braves for the next 20 years because they supposedly have a poor long-term TV contract fans need to deliver them a message by not showing up or watching the game on TV.

The Truth....

April 10th, 2012
12:49 pm

SAME ‘OL BRAVES….Been this way for years!

joey

April 10th, 2012
12:49 pm

reckinballs, fans like you don’t represent the majority of fans?
How do you support the Braves other than on this blog?
To tell a fan they’re not a fan that you don’t know crap about is stupid on your part.

reckingball

April 10th, 2012
12:49 pm

They said last night on the game, that they might be evaluating Fransico, to see what they do when Chipper comes back off the DL, and the Braves have to do something about the roster changing.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
12:50 pm

“count……..Everyone has a right to be doomy and gloomy, as far as I’m concerned, but Tumbledown, did make it sound like the Braves are riding on the Titanic, and I don’t think that things are that bad, but that is my opin.”

They are not a 100 loss team. So, blow them up and titanic level gloom is not required.

But… the Braves have brought a lot of heartache to go with the glorious 90s. And this is a heartbreak team. What Niese did looked like how it could go down in the playoffs.

LaRon

April 10th, 2012
12:50 pm

Jason Heyward = Jeff Francouer

CrαZy

April 10th, 2012
12:52 pm

Jer… why so they’ll have even less money to spend on the team???

Larry

April 10th, 2012
12:52 pm

Tumbledown,

Spot on!

You see in in business all the time where the owner sells out, the leaders (John Shurholz) gets old, resting on their past accomplishments, have been well paid and financially secure, and the business slowly spirals down as they await retirement.

This team would do well to just hand Shurholz, McGuirk, and others their golden parachute and start all over with some fresh bllod that would in all likelihood immediately dismiss both Wren and Gonzalez and start over.

I would embrace a total reorganization, top to bottom.

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:54 pm

No, they are not a 100 loss team….

At this point, I think 98 or 99 would be a better guess.

schmidt08

April 10th, 2012
12:55 pm

agree Crazy. did not like the signing of francisco at all. especially the fact that he was basically let go by the reds for being out of shape. I hope that chipper will stay healthy and we dont have to keep moving prado around from second to third to LF. Prado is starting to hit and when a few more in the lineup hit consistently, then we will be the team that had the 4th best record before the events of last year.

P Rose

April 10th, 2012
12:55 pm

Ken Stallings, well said. Dave O’Brien, I do envy you. You get paid to follow the Braves and rub elbows with them in the buffet line. You get to fly free and get prime seats to games here and on the road. You go to New York and San Francisco; let’s face it, you lead a charmed life. It is easier to remain optimistic in your shoes than it is in ours. We have to pay pretty high prices to watch this team, and always in the same seats, in the same old ball park. We have a right to criticize them when they suck. You have to face them so you can’t be as critical as we do, and I understand that. But don’t blast us for “spewing vitriol” when we vent our frustration.

And don’t give me this “season is young” crap, either. The Braves are clearly stuck in the same slump in which they ended last season. They are losing in the exact same way – zero offense, shoddy defense, short-winded starting pitching and bad middle relief.

Consider all that has happened since last August, and you begin to see why we are mad:

the epic collapse
other teams in NL East make moves to improve
Braves stand pat
horrible spring
Hernandez, Durbin and Francisco acquired
terrible 0-4 start

The horrendous TV contract means no help is in sight.

It looks very much today as if the woebegone days of the 80s are back for Braves fans. Considering the expensive and less-than-comfortable conditions at Turner Field, we have three options:

1. stop going
2. keep going but complain about it
3. keep going and just grin and chop as if we don’t care whether we win or lose

I’m going with option #2, as a lot of other Braves fans are, Dave, and this is our outlet. If you feel that our negativity and “vitriol” ruin your blog, I’m sorry. But what do you expect.

Larry

April 10th, 2012
12:55 pm

LoboDumbDumb,

Are you always so stupid or is today a special occasion?

Chop101

April 10th, 2012
12:55 pm

Honestly, my expectations of this team were a little higher than losing 4 straight out of the gate. However, there is a part of me that has become numb to the once burning infuriation of watching the Braves lose. Losing is part of the game, but when it happens almost every single night, it becomes a problem. Losing is just what we fans watched the Braves do for almost the entire month of September and now we can expect the same for April. The only good thing in that is we fans will not have to build false hope and be crushed in the end.

My God, does Fredi really need to pitch Durbin every night just to boost the opposing teams offensive numbers? And why is Livan coming into games that are still within reach? It took all of last year for the Braves to finally get rid of both Proctor and Linebrink and now we have two pitchers that are arguably worse. Why?

If this was not Chippers last year, then I would not waste even a dime to see this team play at the Ted.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
12:56 pm

Heyward and Francouer were both fast tracked.

That’s about the end of the similarity.

Frenchy was a football player in high school and a hard head on the Braves. He was humbled, and baseball will do that to you. He made adjustments. Obviously, he has physical talent and tools, but, that only gets you so far in baseball.

Heyward is a baseball player. I don’t think he has even played 1 down of football. If anything, he is not hard headed enough. Too many people in his ear messing up his mind. Once he calms down and gets back to doing what ha can do I think he will be fine. Heyward is 22. I’m not worried about Heyward. He’s 22. Think about that for a second.

dap01

April 10th, 2012
12:56 pm

McCann is not a #3 hitter.

I love the Braves but how many championship teams have:

Average to below average Defense?
Below average power?
Below average hitting %?
Below average OB%
Below average speed?
Weak defensively at SS?

Even the most optimistic Braves fans will recognize these weaknesses even before the season started. Frank Wren did not see this coming?

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:57 pm

Go with option number one….

Stop Going until FG is fired!! and Wren too!

All these doofs will understand is turning off the money.

phil

April 10th, 2012
12:59 pm

LOL @ Larry!

Fire eternal and silly optimist Reckingball!!

DetroitBraves

April 10th, 2012
12:59 pm

I’m not sure why people expect DOB to tear into the Braves. That’s not his place. It’s a totally unfair expectation, and would likely totally undermine what he’s been charged to do. There may well be a place for that type of journalism, though hopefully something more intelligent than common talk radio ranting, but I’ve got to think a beat writer that takes that approach won’t be a beat writer for very long.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
1:01 pm

The core issue is no team identity.

They one thing they adhere to, and it is a good one. Grow your own arms. Minor, Beachy, Teheran, Delgado, Venters, Kimbrel.

After that, sketch city. They are not committed to defense, power, speed or good hitting.

BooBoo

April 10th, 2012
1:02 pm

Only 124 more losses to go to a 34-128 record. Go Braves. We need to find 8 men to play that can make 5 errors a game and bat a collective .140, with just a few solo home runs. That will make a pitching staff with a 4.75 ERA seem like trade bate by the trade deadline. The old saying, “Cut off the head and the tail will stop wagging,” means lose a head coach and the team stops winning. This Freddie Gonzales was fired by the Florida (before the Miami) Marlins for good reason. Being a pal bench coach of Bobby Cox is not a good reason to be head coach.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
1:02 pm

Hanson. Traded for a young JJ. We do have pitching.

Tumbledown

April 10th, 2012
1:02 pm

I think it will take hitting rock bottom for the organization to make the wholesale changes necessary to get this team going in the right direction again. Just like an alcoholic or other addict needs to know about a rock bottom in order to make fundamental changes, so do the Braves. The team is addicted to its past accomplishments. I agree that the organization is fundamentally flawed from its corporate ownership right on down the list.

George Allen

April 10th, 2012
1:03 pm

What is Fredi going to do if we are in a close game? He hasn’t used Venters or O’Flaherty much nor Kimbrel at all. Can we expect them to be sharp if they are used? I think Fredi has gone too much in the opposite direction to ease the critics from last year.

phil

April 10th, 2012
1:06 pm

We’ll find out tonight when headcase Kimbrel blows a 1-0 lead in the ninth….

Assuming we manage even 5 hits first.

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
1:07 pm

I was against the Uggla signing, but I gave it a chance.

The team could have looked like this:

Freeman, Prado, Yunel, Chipper/Infante, McCann

Beltran, Bourn, Heyward

Hindsight is 20/20, I’m not claiming that here, but we had some good pieces even after the JD Drew and Tex trades.

KK, McLouth and Lowe?

spike

April 10th, 2012
1:07 pm

It’s such a disservice to the team that ownership is so pennywise. Even the Oakland A’s could afford 6m for Willingham – aka a real live RH hitting LF. Between that and leaving the tactical controls to the managerial equivalent of Yogi Bear, both in deportment and the low number of crazy schemes attempted that actually work, there never was much hope for this year’s model.

schmidt08

April 10th, 2012
1:07 pm

….Lets see how things go when we have the lead in the 7th or 8th inning so we can use O’ flaherty, Venters and Kimbrel. we have to get to the 7th with the lead. Let’s hope we have a lead today and we can see what the bullpen should look like…

Dumbo

April 10th, 2012
1:09 pm

Jeez….I’ve had gas for the last few days watching the Braves play and I haven’t even been to the Varsity or had any pickled eggs…this is not a good omen!

reckingball

April 10th, 2012
1:09 pm

Dear joey @12:49…….”TO tell a fan they’re not a fan”…Please show me where I said that on this blog?
I said that most of the people on this blog, do not represent the majority of the Braves fans.
How do you support the Braves, other than on this blog? Just kidding, because I really don’t care, how you “support” the Braves.

dogsbrekky

April 10th, 2012
1:10 pm

phil – you win the award for biggest dufus

Jon

April 10th, 2012
1:10 pm

I have a feeling the defense will tighten up; what is consistent is the lack of hitting and power on this team.

schmidt08

April 10th, 2012
1:10 pm

Also, we will have some money to spend when Chipper retires, provided it doesnt all go to Bourn in the offseason…….. any ideas on where to spend 16 million?

justafan no like reckingloso

April 10th, 2012
1:13 pm

If you wish to see a good game–The Rays & Tigers are on Directv mlb #722 right now. Both teams know how to win!

Jon

April 10th, 2012
1:13 pm

Oh I am sure we’ll spend it on some bargain players later on in their career… it’s a hallmark of Schuerholtz/Wren

count_schemula

April 10th, 2012
1:15 pm

The Tigers are one team you don’t want to have a brawl with, lol…

reckingball

April 10th, 2012
1:15 pm

pill(short for phil)…….Remember when you begged me to stop commenting on your idiotic comments, and stop communicating with you?
I did and it has worked out well.
It would be better if that was to continue.
GO BRAVES! WS 2012!

justafan not like reckingloso

April 10th, 2012
1:15 pm

The Rays & Tigers are on Direct-tv 722 now..both teams can hit.unlike so I know.

Line-Up Wizard

April 10th, 2012
1:15 pm

This is what the line-up should be from here on out, I don’t care what the match up is, who is slumping, whatever. These are the Braves best players….

1-Bourn
2-Prado
3-Chipper
4-Uggla
5-McCann
6-Freeman
7-Heyward
8-Pastornicky

A few more notes:
-Durbin is this seasons version of Proctor
-Put Medlen in before Livan when we have the lead, tied or down by one

Count Dacula

April 10th, 2012
1:20 pm

Looking at your line up, Line-Up Wizard, what comes to mind is just how unimpressed opposing pitchers must be. COME ON WREN, GET SOMEONE IN THE LINEUP WHO CAN SWING A BIG STICK!!!!

not again

April 10th, 2012
1:21 pm

trust me on this one….as long as frank wren is in charge we will be no better….

Delray Brave

April 10th, 2012
1:22 pm

Pretty soon someone is going to have to face the facts and look at how we finished last year, performed in ST and started the season…Manager is first to go…How’s Bobby liking retirement??

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