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Livan's HONGRY
April 10th, 2012
8:39 am
Fredi heard all of your complaints about wasting the solid bullpen arms early in the year. So he decided once we’re down 1 run, the game is over and it’s time to put in Livan and Durbin!!!
Young and unknown (Gearrin/Flande) >>> Old and washed up (Livan/Durbin)
bill
April 10th, 2012
8:51 am
Credit to DOB for not sugar coating this mess. His mentioning the 9 game losing streak shows honest evaluation of the job Fredi and the team are giving Atlanta fans. Fredi is a lovable bufoon who could not inspire 5 year olds to eat ice cream. Surely the recent moves show a lack of baseball insight. If Francisco had played well and hit well Fredi would get credit for a brillinat move but he did not and can not play at his current weight. Livan is a mop up guy used in 6-0 games to get us out of town fast. The Braves suck now but they may improve. I say that management should release those bums the picked up before the buzzards ate their carcasses and bring in the youngsters that they value so highly they would not trade them for a couple of hitters. If we are going down lets at least let the young guys get some experience. Fredi is pitiful and I think Bobby needs to realize his son is not going to inherit the family business and keep it afloat. I will watch tonight on MLBTV on my paid subscription so I can watch this mess. I love me a good train wreck.
Winchester
April 10th, 2012
8:52 am
How are those trades working out, Wren? Who said our pitching is 1st class? Is this offense a mirror of last season? Was FG fired from the fish for good reason? Are busted up old players really going to make a difference when they return to play? Does losing to division bottom dwellers tell you something?
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out talent of this Braves team.
c dog
April 10th, 2012
8:55 am
go hawks!
tennis girl
April 10th, 2012
8:56 am
Yes, you can fire the guy after just 4 games if you realize it should have been done at the end of last season. And the players’ opening comments on sportsouth all say last year is over and behind them. Really?? I didn’t realize how mad I remained from last season until I didn’t even watch opening day game. Haven’t watched any others over the weekend, and based on results I see every night on ESPN, am glad I don’t put myself thru it anymore. From just reading about last night’s game, over and above sorry defense, it’s the same old problem. Braves sometimes find a way to put 2 or 3 runs together and then go dormant. It’s been 15+ years of no offense and it’s awful. We better not hear one word out of a single player’s mouth about lack of fan support!
curt
April 10th, 2012
8:57 am
Is it any wonder that 3 of the Braves “last minute” signings contributed to the lass last night? You go after bargain basement and you get bargain basement.
There are reasons that teams release players. You find places on your roster for quality and you release the…less qualified.
So the Braves think they can magically make someone better?
If they need roster spots filled up, go into the minors if you dont want to pay for the better players. At least those players will have excuses if they make boneheaded throws like 3d base did last night.
Sid
April 10th, 2012
8:57 am
C’mon Braves………!!
SoFLa Braves Fan
April 10th, 2012
8:57 am
The Braves are not relevant anymore. Look at all the articles about the teams staring badly this season very few if any mention the Braves. The ideology of relying solely on pitching is outdated…especially when your pitching is suspect. Sucks being a Braves fan…it really does
Joey
April 10th, 2012
9:00 am
Maybe we need 3 hitting coaches . . .
Kelvin
April 10th, 2012
9:01 am
Do the Atlanta Braves know that Spring Training has ended? The Season has started Gentlemen! It looks like it’s going to be a long season in A-town.
Bilbo
April 10th, 2012
9:02 am
Someone needs to wake Fredi up. The party’s almost over for him . This isn’t spring training any more. Spit that seed out and tip your cap as you go out the door.
Braves Fan in N.Y.
April 10th, 2012
9:02 am
Francisco made 34 errors in 104 games, is out of shape, and had attitude problems in Cincy.
And you like him why Frank?
And Chad Durbin and Livan Hernandez? Both were washed up long ago.This is what cash-strapped teams do to fill holes. Might better go with the kids.
Jimmy Crack
April 10th, 2012
9:03 am
Livan lobs his moon balloons all day
He calls his pitch “Potato”.
Because he likes the name,
And he serves them to the finest hitters in town.
Sad Sack
April 10th, 2012
9:03 am
Time to blow this team up!!!
Atlrf44
April 10th, 2012
9:08 am
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
old scout
April 10th, 2012
9:09 am
Might as well get used to this. This is a seriously bad team which can easily finish last in their division. Any team whose first option out of the bullpen is Livan H. is in serious trouble. The formula for losing is poor hitting, poor defense, and very average starting pitching. This describes this Braves team.
bravesgrl4life
April 10th, 2012
9:10 am
I think the 4 errors took the wind out of everybody’s sails. I mean, I kind of knew when Livan bobbled that ball not once but twice and then made a HORRIBLE throw to third, it was over. Didn’t mean I was or am any less frustrated, though. But I do think you could almost literally see the fight go out of them.
Bravesfan79
April 10th, 2012
9:11 am
This reminds me of the year we had Chris Woodward, that awful backup catcher, and the beyond awful.. scrap heap starter we gave about 15 starts to before kicking him off the roster. By the time we made roster moves the season was over. GREAT additions Wren!
Tip your cap
April 10th, 2012
9:11 am
“As Fredi “Tip Your Cap” Gonzalez always says, you gotta tip your cap to a World Series contender like the Houston Astros, who should also be called the “NL Allstars” because their team is all All-Star caliber players.”
oldschool
April 10th, 2012
9:13 am
tell Juan Francisco he can start wearing his hat crooked when he makes his first all star roster. Until then, put your lid on straight.
dmr
April 10th, 2012
9:13 am
Do me a favor. It is not necessary to keep writing the same story over and over again. The Braves have invested in pitching that cannot go deep into games. The Braves have talent that hasn’t yet gelled. The Braves lack timely hitting. The Braves are poor at the plate with runners in scoring position….blah, blah, blah.
Write a story about the Braves when the message changes.
HowdyDoit
April 10th, 2012
9:14 am
The Falcons did the EXACT same thing as the Braves. They changed coaches but brought back the same group of CHOKING losers that we saw in 2011. Same group, same result… or worse.
Bravesfan79
April 10th, 2012
9:14 am
I still have hope for Fransisco. As for Livan and Durbin, can them NOW! And with all the long inning bullpen guys we have, why didnt Freddie pull the starter sooner considering even he admitted he only had command of his fastball?
poolcue
April 10th, 2012
9:15 am
check the record i told every body what would happen if they hired f.g. fish had good team no mang. we have weak team no mang. braves will keep him all year have to pay him any how. so sad for all our fans nationwide.
ken
April 10th, 2012
9:17 am
I know it’s early, but this will not change no matter how the season goes: Freddi is not Bobby Cox – we can’t expect him to take someone elses cast offs and make something of it. The time to make a decision on Francisco and others was in Spring Training – not now! Also, if another team gets rid of a reliever, why do we think we can get production from him?
PMC
April 10th, 2012
9:19 am
Ok so they won’t go 54 – 106 (unless they face only left handers)
but seriously, this is the club we have when Chipper isn’t in the lineup. 3 runs is about all they can muster against any one. The starting pitching…. without Huddy, isn’t deep.
The SI article with the Braves taking a big step back to around 75-80 wins and finishing 3rd looks a lot more likely after seeing them play the Mets and Astros.
They cannot hit lefties for anything. Another year of the most boring outfield in the majors is looking likely.
Ghost of Warren Spahn
April 10th, 2012
9:19 am
Braves team batting average is an awesome .151! Smells like September to me.
iliketacos
April 10th, 2012
9:21 am
Larry is back today????? does anyone really think he can help out? we have a third baseman….he’s in left field. Come on freddie….atleast you could put out a line up card that looks like you are trying to win some games.
phil
April 10th, 2012
9:23 am
Felix 17
April 9th, 2012
11:20 pm
Read the Cincinnati blogs on Francisco.
******
There’s no need to read any blogs on Fatsisco….Look at the guy. He has zero pride in himself, much like Hinske and McCann. That speaks volumes since almost no one who looks like that, except for a rare Prince Fielder, can actually play.
McCann has managed to this point while carrying around a huge fat gut, but those days are beginning to end as it catches up to him. It’s becoming clear that Hinske is nearly done as he’s gotten EVEN larger as he gets well into his 30s. You can’t play this game effectively and weight 350 pounds in most instances.
It drives me crazy to see these guys waste their talent like that.
phil
April 10th, 2012
9:23 am
Felix 17
April 9th, 2012
11:20 pm
Read the Cincinnati blogs on Francisco.
******
There’s no need to read any blogs on Fatsisco….Look at the guy. He has zero pride in himself, much like Hinske and McCann. That speaks volumes since almost no one who looks like that, except for a rare Prince Fielder, can actually play.
McCann has managed to this point while carrying around a huge fat gut, but those days are beginning to end as it catches up to him. It’s becoming clear that Hinske is nearly done as he’s gotten EVEN larger as he gets well into his 30s. You can’t play this game effectively and weight 350 pounds in most instances.
It drives me crazy to see these guys waste their talent like that.
PMC
April 10th, 2012
9:24 am
Managing and Hitting coaches don’t make THAT much difference. It’s obviously more than filling out the lineup cards as the manager is the boss and good ones can find ways to squeeze more out of what they have which Bobby obviously did out of many of his lineups over the years…. but you either have a lot of talent or you don’t.
Every team in the majors has talented players insomuch that you have to be awesome to even grace the field in MLB. This team though does not have any consistency and I’m not sure they are going to have any consistency.
This team will win 7-10 and lose 15 out of 20 just like last year. They just aren’t good enough. It’s not all anyone’s fault. This was the best they could do with the players and the budget available, but barring some sort of miracle, this team is not winning anything.
phil
April 10th, 2012
9:25 am
Sorry for the double….
PMC
April 10th, 2012
9:25 am
It may be a very long 20 years with this media budget and no designated hitter, perhaps we should light the torches, get the pitchforks and head on over to Turner.
Billy Marlin
April 10th, 2012
9:26 am
Thank you Atlanta for relieving us of Fredi Gonzalez & Dan Uggla.
We’ll be happy to send more riff raff your way. We have a great relationship with Frank Wren. He used to work for us as well. Not too bright.
Sonny Jackson
April 10th, 2012
9:26 am
I’m not giving up yet… we have some good talent on the field- it’s just been a really bad week so far.
Let’s leave Diaz alone, I still don’t understand why some people are picking him out of this bunch to complain about. Let’s just see what happens.
That said, there is no way I’m spending a dime on this team until they get their act together. If they start to perform like a professional team, I’ll buy a ticket- if not, I’ll spend my money somewhere else.
Please cut out all the season ticket commercials during the broadcast, although is is pretty funny based on the performance so far.
PMC
April 10th, 2012
9:26 am
Brian McCann is not fat.
Lobosolo
April 10th, 2012
9:27 am
Wow… the stupidest, crappiest fans in mlb are freaking out like reactionaries, disparaging the team the claim to be fans of, and still think they know what the game is about, how to play it and how to manage it… what a bunch of losers… I would be embarrassed to call any of you sniveling little puddies my parents… what role models you all are… do you teach your children to walk around spouting off like you know it all, when it’s clear to everyone but yourselves that you don’t have a CLUE, then go off kicking and screaming when it doesn’t go your way? You bimbidiots look at four games of a long season and are ready to call it a day? You’re just plain little sissies that don’t know your behinds from third base… Who in the world would want “fans” like you? Whiners, crybabies, blubbering, sniffling, wimpy little PUDDIES… I can see you at the little league game when your little snot-nosed young’un strikes out… You call him an idiot… your own parents must have done this to you when you suckedoutloud as a young’un… maybe they were right… at least we all have a clue as to where the whineyassed people come from… Jimminy, Folks… you all should just shoot yourselves now and do the real fans AND the Braves a huge favor…
phil
April 10th, 2012
9:28 am
PMC
April 10th, 2012
9:25 am
It may be a very long 20 years with this media budget and no designated hitter, perhaps we should light the torches, get the pitchforks and head on over to Turner.
******
STAY AWAY FROM TURNER….
The only thing management will understand is a vast sea of empty seats. It won’t hurt anyone to take a year off, especially since the team is.
Fire FG and FW!!
phil
April 10th, 2012
9:30 am
And here comes Lobosolo with another regurgitation of last year’s posts…
P Rose
April 10th, 2012
9:33 am
The stand-pat, fanny-pat Braves made two key moves at the last minute, bringing in Juan Francisco and Livan Hernandez – not the most inspiring players a desperate team could have acquired, but they do both have extra-large fannies for pattin’.
LAC
April 10th, 2012
9:33 am
Steve is right, ENOUGH of frank wren, he is TERRIBLE and fredi” Gee Whiz, Awful !!
Plus the team looks DEAD, no hustle and a give up attitude in ALL respects !!!!
Team is horrible is every respect, Changes need to be made or MOVE !
Maybe winnipeg braves next season, Not out of the question !!!
phil
April 10th, 2012
9:33 am
Bourn (sigh)
Prado
Chipper
Heyward
Uggla
McCann
FF
Pastornicky
Wretched pitcher
Heyward 4th is just a hunch….why would it matter anyway the way we’ve been going the last 2 years.
Preston Hannatized
April 10th, 2012
9:34 am
An embarrassment to a once proud franchise. The “Fredi face” sums it up … a blank stare, no emotion, conveying no confidence, no presence at all. We saw it for the last month of 2011. Heeee’s back. But let’s not let the smooth talking GM walk away from this – this roster is on him. Wren keeps looking for another old wreck like Troy Glaus to put together a season saving hot streak. The Durbin (as in Drubbing) signing and Livan are both proven failures – and we are only at game 4! Good times.
GaryinBham
April 10th, 2012
9:34 am
lobosolo, I agree. This team is playing terribly right now, and they look awful. Judging from the fairweather fanatics we have, the current play and their fans match up pretty nicely. It’s painful to watch this team right now, really awful. I hope they get their act together. Somebody has to give a spark somewhere, but those of us not on the field have little to say to make that happen. Too many fantasy baseball fans, if you ask me. Tends to create fantasy expectations.
Real men rise up when the chips are down. Let’s see what these guys are made of over the next few weeks. They might finish last, FG might get fired, firesale may come. Won’t be the first time or the first team. Face it, we got spoiled.
jch
April 10th, 2012
9:35 am
DOB, I think you forgot someone…
“…it was newest Braves who were largely responsible for getting them back to that place…”
You left out one 2nd year guy who has one of the major’s best bullpen’s at his disposal and he chose Livan Hernandez to come into a 1 run game… In what way does his performance in NY warrant his being chosen in a still very close, not too mention very important, game where we’re trying to get our first win of the season?
Ralph
April 10th, 2012
9:35 am
How many games will Cripper play before he’s hurt again, 3, 10, 20? I’m betting no more than 10.
Brave Hokie
April 10th, 2012
9:35 am
Here’s your Wal-mart Braves…
If you are going to sign washed up lousy players ~ can you at least find some that are skinny and ‘look’ athletic???
Bobcat
April 10th, 2012
9:36 am
I did not know that Wren’s “make no changes” in the off season meant “do not change the losing attitude as well”.
Chipper Moans
April 10th, 2012
9:36 am
Hey, we are going to be allright…
At least I will.
I see an early hunt’n season for me
alex
April 10th, 2012
9:39 am
“jimniny”?, “puddies?”,”bimbidiots?”,”whinyassed?”,next up from lobo something about binkies….
Braves Fan Stuck in Beantown
April 10th, 2012
9:41 am
The only thing that was making me happy was that the Red Sox were losing. Then they won last night. Miss Bobby Cox yet?
PMC
April 10th, 2012
9:41 am
Turner Broadcasting, not Turner field.
LAC
April 10th, 2012
9:41 am
Just like Thrashers, brought in has-beens to play and stars left town, then the team because the lying owners put a bandaid on a gunshot wound and did nothing to improve the team ever.
Then the fans quit coming and now where are they ? In a Minor League city, and we have ANOTHER minor league owner, one who WILL NOT FIRE the Worthless GM and manager, both OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE !!!
Tells us frank, how were your classes in the don waddell school of how to ruin a professional sports team this winter ??? I see you learned a whole lot and your great moves, like waddell, have taken this Braves team from a class franchise to a laughing stock !!!! You MUST BE FIRED, You STINK, just like waddell does !
jch
April 10th, 2012
9:42 am
phil – Beachy has an RBI and he’s not doing anything today; maybe he could hit clean-up???
DC Fan
April 10th, 2012
9:43 am
Record low attendance in Hotlatanta this summer.
GoBravos124
April 10th, 2012
9:44 am
Poor Fredi G . . . being blamed for all the struggles of a so-called major-league team. He is NOT responsible, he is ONLY a PUPPET on a string. Good guy, obeying FRANKIE AND BOBBY, taking heat . . . there’s no wonder he hides behind things in the dugout . . . afraid for his life . . . all the while being the patsie for a BRAVE organization that is inept . . . been that way for awhile . . . why did Stan Kasten leave? Did he know something . . . don’t expect any changes until COX and ALL his cronies are sent packing–and that won’t happen! This is YOUR ATLANTA BRAVES, love ‘em! A point I always wondered about, when they make their offensive BURST, like scoring, it’s all done n one inning and then you can change channels, it’s over as far as their run scoring goes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PMC
April 10th, 2012
9:46 am
what is this fairweather crap? The team is what it is. I’m still going to the games and cheering for the Braves. It’s summertime, even when your team doesn’t win baseball is still pretty fun to watch.
I just think we need to lower our expectations and be happy if they supercede them. It’s pretty unrealistic to expect this team to win much at this point. They are going to be streaky. It’s who they are. They were last year, they will be this year. They just started on a bad streak.
BL
April 10th, 2012
9:46 am
Glad to see it has only took 4 games before the famous Braves “We’ll get ‘em tomorrow, just gotta tip your cap tonight” mentality has set in. NEVER ANY URGENCY WITH THIS BUNCH!
Joey
April 10th, 2012
9:46 am
I’d rather shoot you, Lobosolo . . .
J.P.
April 10th, 2012
9:48 am
I’m not out to knock the Braves or anyone affiliated with them… though I’m sick & tired of constantly hearing Don & Jim from the broadcast booth dig up every excuse for their performance, whether it’s this season or last. It is what it is guys.
Seattle Braves
April 10th, 2012
9:50 am
Braves have hit .165 and lost all their games against a pair of teams, the Mets and Astros, picked to finish last in their respective divisions.
Just SAD!
Larry
April 10th, 2012
9:50 am
Season is over. I called it. When will they start listening to Larry?
BL
April 10th, 2012
9:50 am
Lobosolo:
I think we sawlast year that every game, even pitch for that matter, counts!
JeanE
April 10th, 2012
9:51 am
Trying not to freak out given the season just started but because of the epic collapse that ended it, it feels like we haven’t won in years. We can’t execute all 3 phases of the game at one time. If pitching is good, no runs. If runs, no defense, etc etc etc. I’m really starting to question the management of this team. We just aren’t this bad, too much talent is here. Given that, it seems like we have to look to the leadership or lack thereof. Juan the chub is worse than advertised. We changed out Linebrink for Durbin. Last night’s game was still winnable ’til we put in Livan who is clearly done, something Houston recognized. With a win so crucial, would’ve like to have seen an actual pitcher out there to keep things in hand. I feel good about tonight with Tommy on the mound and Chipper back but boy, it really looks like a LONG season ahead. Go Braves.
Ron Smithwick
April 10th, 2012
9:52 am
.165 BA against two teams picked to be last in their divisions. Don’t you love these new batting coaches we have. Their skill led Adam Dunn to a .157 avg, Beckham’s worst year in the ML, and Rios worst year ever. Good hire, Braves.
Charlie L
April 10th, 2012
9:53 am
Mecca of consistency. Same team picks up season right where they left off the last.
Jay Dubu
April 10th, 2012
9:54 am
It’s not that the Braves have lost 4 in a row that causes concern and dismay, but it’s how and to whom, they have lost the 4 in a row.
And it happened to start the season after they blew a 10 1/2 game wild card lead. Sure the players and management have moved on to 2012, and put 2011 in the rear view mirror, but the team’s performance is the same as it was down the stretch in 2011.
That’s the issues!!!
Seattle Braves
April 10th, 2012
9:55 am
@J.P.
Would be nice to see Don step up and be like Bob Uecker playing Hary Doyle in the movie Major League.
Cause isnt this what the Braves have become. Sort of like this movie, where the women (or Liberty Media) who buys the club to see them fail to sale them for a huge profit. Interesting….
Joke
April 10th, 2012
9:56 am
I am so sick of ownership not doing what it takes to win. Make a few moves, bring a bat, get a free agent pitcher. Do something. Constanza for the whole season, getting Matt diaz back, and getting Franscisco do not constitute making moves. Pay the players and the fans will come back. We are sick of our ownership not doing anything. Also, I was big Freddi G supprter. Done. He is not a good manager, pissed me off last year and pisses me of this year. We want Medlen in the rotation. He and Hudson are the only ones that show any heart and that rubs off on the position playeys.
Braves Fan
April 10th, 2012
9:56 am
BOYCOTT TURNER FIELD UNTIL THE FRANK & FREDI SHOW HAS BEEN CANCELLED !
bobby
April 10th, 2012
9:56 am
FG said the Braves were playing good ball until things went bad. They were playing even better ball before the game started.
JeanE
April 10th, 2012
9:58 am
Seriously, you cannot blame that on Diaz. He was on base twice and scored a run, also did not make ANY errors so what’s your beef? People dumping all the blame on him are ridiculous, why don’t you turn your focus to everyday players who aren’t producing?????? Or pitchers who are young and can’t make it past the 5th inning. How come players leave here and all of a sudden, are awesome? I see a patten and it’s not Matty D. So shut the heck up about our reserve outfielder, people!!!!!!!!!!
Frank Wren
April 10th, 2012
10:00 am
Why pitch Medlen when we have solid veterans like Hernandez & Durbin?
I’ll end up trading Medlen for Marlon Byrd or some other washed-up outfielder.
P Rose
April 10th, 2012
10:01 am
Relax, it’s early. They only need to go 5-0 to go over .500.
Yes, it’s only April, but these games count. What’s disturbing is how they’re losing. If they can’t score runs in hitter-friendly ball parks like the ones in Houston and New York, how are they going to score at pitcher-friendly Turner Field?
If you can’t score, you must rely on pitching and defense. The pitching (Livan Hernandez??) hasn’t been good enough, and the defense (Juan Francisco??) has been awful.
What’s worse is the terrible trend that began in late August, carried over into spring training, and is now still painfully apparent. The team looks desperate to score, and when they do, they seem desperate to make perfect pitches and plays. They do not seem to be playing loose or having any fun at all.
Worst of all is the front office’s refusal to do anything at all except cut marquis failures at great expense (Lowe) and bring in bargain-basement veterans.
The vast majority of fans are venting loudly but the players act unconcerned (saying they have forgotten the collapse is a load of bunk); the blog masters are saying all will be fine; and a few little-miss-sunshine fans try to tell those of us who dare to complain that we aren’t real fans. WE ARE real fans and we demand better. This sucks!!!!
Ryan
April 10th, 2012
10:02 am
Freddi your right were not pretty to watch because your the problem. Tought Heyward was to have a big year yet he needs a day off didnt he have two run double. Use Livan and Proctor OH I mean Durbin in the same game and we will never win that game. This team needs an owner and Freddi taco bell would be a gone. FIRE FREDDI PLEAAAASE
b
April 10th, 2012
10:02 am
Fredi(”you know what”) is in way over his head. No leader at all.
And what has happened to the Braves young pitching phenoms? Teheran, Delgado and Vizc. with TJ surgery?
So we get Durbin and Livan. What a waste.
b
April 10th, 2012
10:04 am
Has Kimbrell even seen the field this year, while Chad D. has already pitched twice.
Bad Braves
April 10th, 2012
10:07 am
9 losses in a row…
Same hitting problems…
Same short-winded starting pitching…
Same bad coaching…
Yes, it is time to panic.
Seattle Braves
April 10th, 2012
10:11 am
If there is was any time for Chipper to put a spark into a team, its now. Everyone looks like they dont care, like the passion is gone. We need a huge boost, and maybe Chipper can supply that.
If not, Plan B:
Donations for Red Bull.
Dennis Wilcutt
April 10th, 2012
10:12 am
Wren and Freddie both need to be fired and the Braves need to start over.
Ralph
April 10th, 2012
10:12 am
Braves Fan
April 10th, 2012
9:56 am
BOYCOTT TURNER FIELD UNTIL THE FRANK & FREDI SHOW HAS BEEN CANCELLED !
I have been calling for this, thats the only way to force Liberty to sell is if they stop making PROFIT, I attended 32 games last season but will not go to 1 game until we get a new owner. I did not buy my season ticket earlier this year when it became clear that they were not going to make any moves to improve the team.
DawgDad
April 10th, 2012
10:13 am
Enter your comments here
reebok
April 10th, 2012
10:14 am
This team fell apart and spit the bit last year, did absolutely nothing to improve itself in the offseason, stunk in spring training and they stink now. Th only surprise would be if a clearly average team like the Braves suddenly just flipped a switch and started winning. If this assemblage could do that, they would have done it last year with the playoff on the line.
82 wins, 4th in the division.
Captain Obvious
April 10th, 2012
10:14 am
Hey Frank Wren, the sky is falling.
ernesto
April 10th, 2012
10:14 am
it’s time to rev up the Fire Frank Wren machine
Jay Dubu
April 10th, 2012
10:15 am
Let’s not put all of this on Frank Wren. The Braves lost their focus while John Schuerholz was the GM. He bankrupted the Braves with the trade for Teixeira, and promoted himself.
Frank has been trying to restock the farm system, and put a team on the field that can compete, while dealing with a limited budget, due in part to a bad TV contract that last for the next 20+ years.
Frank has made some bad moves with KK, D-Lowe, and the bargin basement players that he’s brought in the past 2 – 3 seasons.
Although a large portion of the blog wants Fredi out, as soon as Cox made it known that he was retiring, everyone wanted Fredi, and couldn’t see why Florida would can him mid-season.
So you asked, and you have received.
bustersonly
April 10th, 2012
10:17 am
Chipper is not a cure for the problem but one of the causes of the problem, should have retired at the end of last season and freed up some money for a bat.
P Rose
April 10th, 2012
10:17 am
Atlanta, the National League’s only winless team, is already four games out, behind the undefeated Mets. We already need to win, and win big, just to get back in it – after only four games! But there’s no need to panic. The team that is currently on a 10-24 streak (not even counting the horrific spring) added Livan Hernandez, Chad Durbin and Juan Francisco to right the ship.
Poor Michael Bourn. His home-town Astros (3-1) look infinitely better than his new team.
phil
April 10th, 2012
10:19 am
jch
April 10th, 2012
9:42 am
phil – Beachy has an RBI and he’s not doing anything today; maybe he could hit clean-up???
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You know, that’s an excellent thought.
Beachy is clearly better with the bat than Bourn, Heyward, FF, Pastornicky, Uggla and McCann.
Why not?
TAB
April 10th, 2012
10:20 am
Saw that game coming. Was at Disney for the last ST game when Francisco arrived. Before the game, noticed he never raises the ball above his shoulder when he throws it. You cannot have those mechanics playing 3B. If he is not G Braves new first basemen, you wasted a pitching prospect. Trade him to American league team for something.
P Rose
April 10th, 2012
10:20 am
Anybody want to buy my season tickets?
VinnyCastillas Glove
April 10th, 2012
10:21 am
Juan Francisco: Sorry to go stat happy but…in the minors Juan had a .917 fielding rate compared to Chipper’s .954 in the majors (he had no 3B stats in the minors) compared to Vinny Castilla’s .972 in the minors. At bat, even worse. In the minors, strikeout to walk ratios: Chipper 1.3 to 1, Vinny 2.4 to 1, JF 6.0 to 1. That’s one walk for every six strikeouts. Typically a ratio over 3 to 1 means there is no successful major league career in your future.
I’m sorry, but the answer you seek (a third baseman) is not currently on the roster.
LaRon
April 10th, 2012
10:22 am
Braves are losing 100+ this season. The starters can’t go more than 5 innings and they can’t score runs to save their lives. All Braves fans should be panicking. Fredi is an awful manager and needs to be fired now. The team we saw last September is the team we will see this whole season. Also its bad that this lineup is dependent on a forty year old third baseman. Its bad folks. Real Bad. The Braves stink and are going to continue to stink. 5th place in the East with the worst record in baseball.
DawgDad
April 10th, 2012
10:23 am
What’s wrong with the Braves? Let’s start at the top, no not with Wren, with the highest paid players. Chipper, Lowe, Hudson, Uggla. Do we really need to look any farther? This, folks, is the face of a collapse.
For that sad situation, yes we can at least partially blame Wren. Point is, it might get better in time this year, but these guys are less likely to carry the Braves into the playoffs this year than they were last year. It was obvious to most of us.
phil
April 10th, 2012
10:23 am
Amen to Ralph and others that plan to stay away this season….
I hate to miss Chipper in his swan song, but I’m tired of the ineptitude.
No more games until FG and FW are fired!!
Save your money for the mortgage and college for the kids…
UNCBrave
April 10th, 2012
10:24 am
While Fredi deserves some of the credit for pitching Durbin in 2 of the 4 games and not starting Heyward over Diaz, some of the BLAME goes to FRANK WREN who did nothing to improve our ballclub in the offseason while division foes were getting stronger…Also, Diaz is a SPOT OF not a 4th OF….They should’ve gotten Marlon Byrd
Stiffneck
April 10th, 2012
10:25 am
The organization needs a shake up no doubt. After last years’ meltdown and the way these guys are currently playing there is no sign this team will be any better. Clean house starting at the top. New management, new manager and look to trade players who can not hit.
Sam
April 10th, 2012
10:25 am
DOB is an utter hack. He won’t publish quotes because of how bad they make his friend look. A “reporter” that lacks integrity to even ask the proper questions. What a hack
Hosea Williams
April 10th, 2012
10:25 am
Too embarrassed to wear my braves hat to the airport in NYC today, thanks braves for the rocking start to the season. Please don’t get swept by the “L”Astors. I would like to have some comfort going to the games friday and saturday night.
ernesto
April 10th, 2012
10:26 am
Frank Wren has stocked a team with lefty bats in a division with dominant left handed pitching. He’s got right handed pitching in a division with lefty bats taht can change games. His track record hiring coaches is questionable. His additions: McClouth, DLowe, KK, etc. have been flat out busts.
His run with the O’s doesn’t fill you with hope.
Looking at Wren is totally fair.