NEW YORK – Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez pulled no punches Saturday morning when a pregame discussion turned to the ongoing controversy between Orlando Magic star Dwight Howard and Magic coach Stan Van Gundy, a friend of Gonzalez since the two were Miami neighbors years ago.
Van Gundy said Thursday that Howard went to Magic ownership to ask that Van Gundy be fired, the latest episode in a relationship that seems to be approaching an untenable state. Gonzalez said he spoke to Van Gundy by phone Friday.
“I think the owner has to step up and sign Stan for a couple more years, unless Howard wants to take a pay cut and be the coach,” Gonzalez said to a handful of reporters in the visitor’s dugout Saturday morning at Citi Field.
Gonzalez said during his discussion with Van Gundy, the Braves manager told him that he wished more owners were ex-coaches or ex-players, like Magic Johnson, so they’d understand the dynamics of the player-coach relationship. He said Van Gundy told him that wasn’t possible because most former coaches and players weren’t rich enough to be team owners.
Then Gonzalez mused about how he might have responded to Howard.
“I know what I would have said if he’d have walked into my office if I was the owner: ‘Get your a** back on the court and play. We’ll let the guys coach; you play,’” Gonzalez said.
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Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow
April 7th, 2012
10:22 pm
Oh OK, Fredi, so NOW you show some fire and badass, but when the ship was sinking last September, all we got was cliches and backrubs?
GTFOH
Stan
April 7th, 2012
10:23 pm
Fredi should focus on learning the game of baseball so he can make fewer management blunders. One of the worst managers in the league. He has no idea what he is doing.
BravesfaninWis
April 7th, 2012
10:38 pm
Shut the hell up Fredi and worry about doing your own job you idiot. You had one of the biggest collapses in baseball history last year because you over used your bullpen, didn’t know how to do little things to score some more runs, and everything else possible to blow one of the biggest WC leads in NL history to blow it.
You are damn lucky to still have your job, and that is only because your GM is just as stupid as you are in making decisions. I can’t wait for the day that I come on this website, MLB Trade Rumors, or any other baseball related site and see that Fredi Gonzalez and Frank Wren were fired by the Braves. Neither one of you deserve the position that you have.
Kyle
April 7th, 2012
10:38 pm
Fredi needs to go coach basketball so we can get a real manager in here to do something with this crap they want to call a team. Someone needs to call Lou Brown at NTB and see if he wants the job after he gets off the other line with the guy about some white walls.
C. Tampa Ironworse
April 7th, 2012
10:39 pm
The Master of Cap Tipping is friends with the Master of Panic… Go figure.
PMC
April 7th, 2012
10:50 pm
Yeah so after 2 terrible games to start the season who is going to stick up for Freddie and Frank.
iTiSi
April 7th, 2012
11:09 pm
Don’t know when I have read a more irrelevant article after a Braves loss. What does this have to do with baseball and who gives a “rats rump” about FG and his buddy?
Weef
April 7th, 2012
11:14 pm
Thanks to all previous posters, you took the words right out of my mouth !!
Freddi, get your house in order, then worry about basketball.
Weef
April 7th, 2012
11:16 pm
Guess what Ron Washington, Charlie Manuel, and Joe Girardi think of the Howard/Van Gundy spat??
NOTHING !!!! They have no idea its happening, they are worried about coaching their team !!!
lastmanstanding
April 7th, 2012
11:18 pm
told you losers you would miss Bobby…
Biff Pocoroba
April 7th, 2012
11:23 pm
Where are the people defending Wren for going out and getting a washed up Durbin last week? He is terrible and of course Fredi stuck him out there to lose the game today despite having a rested bullpen after the day off yesterday. Fredi needs to go and Wren should be right behind him. The team stunk it up in March and people said it was just spring training but now they look terrible in April and Heyward’s career is already over and McCann looks like he has lost it. Unless the Braves get about 50 shut outs, they won’t win 60 games this year.
Julio Fan
April 7th, 2012
11:25 pm
You know, I think the Braves might be better off with Ozzie than Fredi.
(Ozzie is that OTHER Bobby Cox managerial protege.)
Cholulu
April 7th, 2012
11:52 pm
McCann is not the Mac of old..please don’t give a big contract to him but trade for a power hitter and couple very good kids.
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iTiSi
April 8th, 2012
12:35 am
Wonder if any of the AJC sports guys will have the guts to check out what FG said after the game. He said so very intelligently, “the team that scores first usually wins the game”. Is that just another brilliant thought he had to impress the writers or is it really fact? Would be interesting to know. Of course, they will probably let him slide as usual.
beone
April 8th, 2012
12:38 am
Fredi needs to FOCUS on his job and improve his performance!
Mitchell
April 8th, 2012
1:10 am
I’m not really one to bash Fredi Gonzalez. My problem is primarily with the media in Atlanta.
I say that because last month I heard Mark Bowman report to Buck and Kincade on 680thefan that Fredi Gonzalez never had any faith in Scott Linebrink (safe to reveal now that he’s gone, of course) last year from day one.
Part of me then thinks upon hearing that, “Well why the hell did he let him pitch to Hunter Pence in the 13th inning with a runner in scoring position and Michael Martinez on deck?”
That move had been made twice already in the game, to walk Pence, and worked in our favor each time. The question(s) I think most people would ask is, “Was he basically throwing in the towel by choosing to have Linebrink pitch to Pence and not walk him to face Martinez or did that represent a mental lapse and if so can he really be counted on next time around to make the right calls in the critical moments of must win games at the end of the season or in October?”
Okay, so that’s a lot of questions and I know we’re just little old Atlanta and not a real sports town but you’d think one of them, Buck or Kincade, would have been inclined to at the very least to follow up with one or two tiny follow up queries.
Nope.
The real problem is where it comes from. Mark Bowman had the information but it doesn’t come out until after it would have been relevant. Just like last fall when he went on 790thefan to reveal that players came up to him in April expressing their dislike of Larry Parrish.
When do we hear about that? November.
Fredi Gonzalez may be an idiot but it’s the media that’s the problem.
Until the members of the sports media in this town feel it is to their advantage to call Frank Wren out for his BS, Fredi’s not on the hot seat and neither is Frank Wren.
In the meantime I’ll just keep writing these insanely long posts like some Bill Simmons wanna be.
I’m not trying to be like Bill Simmons. I can’t stand that guy actually.
He’s a gigantic douche. A rich, gigantic douche though now that I think about it.
Hmmm.
I’ll stop now.
Who Me?
April 8th, 2012
1:21 am
FG, you better pray those words don’t come back to bite you in the butt big boy. Didn’t your momma ever teach you to be a good listener and keep your yap shut??
Why don’t you step up to the plate and manage your own club with a little of that fire huh? This team is a ship without a rudder, going nowhere and fast.
Tighten things up sir, or you won’t be the captain of this ship for much longer.
Mitchell
April 8th, 2012
1:31 am
lastmanstanding
April 7th, 2012
11:18 pm
told you losers you would miss Bobby…
Wrong.
I’d rather have Fredi Gonzalez for the next five years than another day of Bobby Cox.
lastmanstanding
April 8th, 2012
1:43 am
well….. you are an idiot
Stan
April 8th, 2012
2:01 am
Mitchell is really dumb. Bobby had some management issue but Fredi is one of the worst managers in the league. He over-manages and keeps his team tight. One of the worst managers you will ever see.
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Bob
April 8th, 2012
3:26 am
DOB- love ya, but this doesn’t feel right.
Go Go Pilots
April 8th, 2012
3:32 am
Funny freddieGonzalez supports Van Gundy nice while team is like a anchor with out a ship A captaiin without a wheel..He worryed over a NBA coach was he worryed over him last season to Blow 10 game lead in 2011….and have chipper mouth run amok sounds like chipper same copy as in orlando Fire Jeff Van gundy..we could be 0-3 after sunday in last Mets in First do you see a team with a Coach who is sorta like Gonzalez but has a backbone are’s he just cow tips and Moo’s excuse.Frank Wren will never get called out this not Ny times are Newsday here Just AJC….70-92 season under freddi n wren will Pick Nose with Bobby cox in office!
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:46 am
Patheic!!!!! How about somebody actually talk about the collapse and te fact that the Braves did NOTHING about it. They keep Fredi Gonzalez, they dont sign any free agents and they expect different results. But what makes me sick is that D.O.B., Mark Bradley or Jeff Schultz will not point this out instead there too busy being buddy buddy with Fredi Gonzalez, Frank Wren and Liberty Media. But Schultz and Bradley will attact the Atlanta Spirit Group (Which they should) but Liberty Media is making the same kind of moves and are praised for doing so. Thats the problem with Atlants sports, the beat writers and fans never criticize their teams (Especially the Braves) and just come to the games to hang out rather to cheer and BOO their teams. The Braves choked a 10 1/2 game lead and all that was said was “Tip you hat”. D.O.B. your my favorite writer by far but even you need to stop drinking the Fredi Gonzalez Kool-Aid, he is a awful manager and makes bad manageral moves all the time.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
4:01 am
What in the Hell does Stan Van Gundy and Dwight Howard have to do with the Braves???????????????????????????????????
DOB this coddling of Fredi Gonzalez by the Beat writers in Atlanta has gone too far. After 2 games of sub-standard baseball isnt the thing. Its the final Month and a half of last year……you know the complete choke of a 10 1/2 game lead, that allowed a team to come in and WIN the World Series. But the writes dont blame Fredi Gonzalez for his awful moves, his lack of intensity, and overall willingness to place blame on his team losing. Its always “Tip your hat” with this clown, but you writers cant point this out because your too “Buddy Buddy” with Gonzalez. Nobody has pointed the Collapse on him and it appears that you Atlanta writers go out of your way to keep the heat off of him.
DOB you are the most approachable writer and IMO the best beat writer but you have to be objectionable and take friendship out of the equation. Fredi Inherited a Play-off team that got better at first from improvement but regressed by the end of the year. Now this team looks like the September Braves from last year. Maybe we need to hire Bobby Cox back because he knew how to handle players, the media, and in game strategy. There was a reason that Fredi got fired in Miami and I dont think it was from Hanley Ramirez.
David O'Brien
April 8th, 2012
6:06 am
DOB- love ya, but this doesn’t feel right. — Bob
Thanks for the love.
I have no idea what doesn’t feel right to you — the 0-2 start? the lack of offense? Fredi’s comments about Van Gundy? all of the above? — but thanks.
David O'Brien
April 8th, 2012
6:11 am
What in the Hell does Stan Van Gundy and Dwight Howard have to do with the Braves??????????????????????????????????? — J-Man
Absolutely nothing. It’s just an unusual comment for the coach of another team to make publicly, therefore I wrote a very brief story about it. Nobody said you had to read it. You saw in the headline what it was about, and if you didn’t get it from there, you certainly could tell from the first paragraph that it was a story about the manager’s comments about the bizarre situation with the Magic, and not a story about the Braves team. So if you’re not interested, why would you keep reading?
Or are you upset That you spent 2-3 seconds reading the headline and 10 more seconds reading the first paragraph, and decided it was worth writing an angry comment reflecting your anger at the time wasted? Even if writing that comment took longer than reading the headline or the first paragraph?
dap01
April 8th, 2012
6:17 am
Dwight is getting stranger everyday. He is so confused. He is looking for self gratification and can find no one to suit him.
He is a jerk and he is proving it everyday. He hits people in the face and screams at the refs to call a foul.
Joey
April 8th, 2012
6:57 am
Where’s Steve? I was wanted to ask if the Braves lost to another “future Hall of Fame” pitcher again yesterday.
He said that’s why they lost Thursday – even though that particular “future Hall of Famer” only pitched 5 innings . . .
WTF
April 8th, 2012
6:59 am
iSiTi -
correct,
Mitchell –
Do you think anyone would read such a long post? Most commenters didn’t even seem to have read the entire story – such as it was. Keep it short and sweet – remember the ’skirt rule’ of writing.
The Braves –
too early for panic – right on time for worry.
DOB –
you are an able fellow and try hard to cover your beat. Too bad about your employer, though. As for the ’story’, who cares? It’s the NBA – ‘Nothing But A-holes’.
FIRE LIBERTY MEDIA!
Joey
April 8th, 2012
7:06 am
Who was it that was saying they had forgotten all about the history-making of last Sept? And everybody thought it was a horrible fluke?
Well, don’t watch now, cause the Braves are hitting exactly like they did that whole month. If we can pull out a win today, we’ll have about the same winning %, too.
Joey
April 8th, 2012
7:10 am
“So if you’re not interested, why would you keep reading?”
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You tell em, DOB.
Rufio
April 8th, 2012
7:22 am
J-Man,
Man,DOB is just the objectionable meessenger……..this is his blog and he can write about anything he wishes. I for one appreciate the fact I can come here and read about the Braves and not have “Race” inserted every .127 columns. That columnist made me cancel my AJC subscription. Thanks DOB for writing about the Braves. Personally, I don’t get the song lyrics myself but……..I SKIP OVER IT ((another subtle hint J-Man)
Regarding Fredi G………..Personally, I think he needs to worry about his job and not his friends. He is a short term manager and I wish the Braves had gotten the other Cox Protege in KC. Perhaps, Shuerholtz will live up to his letter to the fans and fire Freddi and Frank and put Glavine in as GM and make a trade for Yost and Francouer.
C. Tampa Ironworse
April 8th, 2012
7:24 am
Oh boy. You guys have got DOB angry. I used to follow him on Twitter and I can tell you from that experience, people that question him get yelled at. So just red his posts, Tweets etc and enjoy reading about horrible music and shut up. He doesn’t care what you think.
clint
April 8th, 2012
7:33 am
Everyone loves you David, so chill. You made a mistake writing about something that is irrelevant and stupid. It’s OK—you are human and are entitled to that. Relax. Don’t get thin-skinned on us now.
BTW—several moinths ago you came out with a list of 20 movies you recommended. I wrote them down and the wife and I have been renting them one by one. We love ‘em! Never would have seen them at all if you hadn’t written about them. Thanks much.
Rufio
April 8th, 2012
7:34 am
WOW, I thought Freddi was stupid for commenting on non-Braves matters…………I just read about Ozzie Guillen admiring Fidel Castro. How stupid can he be? I guess Miami wil be the first to fire their Manager!
Never Too Early to Panic
April 8th, 2012
7:45 am
Leave it to the Braves to make the third game of the season one where it’s a must win. So far, this team has done NOTHING to show the fans that it is better than the team that ended last year so horribly.
This team better wake up and realize that they need to come out with a new attitude and the same swagger that the Braves of the 90’s had. They play not to lose instead of to win and this fan is tired of the same old routine.
Six games to start the season versus the Mets and Astros should have meant a record of at least 4-2 going into the home opener. Now, they will be lucky to be 3-3 and could possibly start 2-4 or 1-5.
If this team is going to be taken seriously in the East, today is a must win. The Braves need to show the fans that they will be a team worth following in 2012. But it will a whole lot more than what they’ve shown themselves to be capable of in the first two games.
jt
April 8th, 2012
7:49 am
This article just shows the stupidity of not only our glorious manager, but the people who write dumb ass articles about him.
Who Cares what Fredi says about anything? He is a short timer here at best, with the results he is putting on the field.
Jack
April 8th, 2012
7:51 am
Never was crazy about Bobby, but kinda wish he was back. Fredi ain’t the answer for sure.
braveshoo
April 8th, 2012
8:29 am
FG should worry about his own job. In my opinion, he should have been fired after last years collapse, and he has done nothing this year to change my mine. In two games, he has had a man on 3rd with less than 2 outs, and failed to get him home. Hell- just bunt him home and get a run, I dont care who is batting. You have a knucleball pitcher on the mound yesterday, and no attempts to even steal a base. The Braves have to be more aggesive to score runs, and FG looks scared to even come out of the dugout to argue a play at homeplate or at 1st that could have changed the game. My patience is also wearing thin with our GM. Dias is over the hill and should have been cut.Parraz and Durrango were both better. Constanza should be in AAA. Durbin was a waste of money. We had pitchers we sent down that were better, and the money should have been used on a hitter. Finally, look at the guys he has let go- both Francour and Melky are doing great, pobably because they have managers that make them get in shape and coaches that know how to coach them. Its time for the GM, the manager, and most of the coaches to go!
Chris
April 8th, 2012
8:33 am
So, we’re hard up for something to write about? A friend backs a buddy? This is earthshattering news? I didn’t waste my time with the article…the title tells you to not waste a second of your life on it,
Let's Go
April 8th, 2012
8:36 am
A lot of Fredi bashing as usual today. Probably the same folks that bashed Bobby Cox and will bash the next manager, you know the folks that sit at home with a 6 pack in front of the TV and think they could manage an MLB team.
jdl2
April 8th, 2012
8:40 am
Braves are 0-7 in their last seven and 9-20 since Sept 1 and Fredi’s got time to talk NBA?
AtlPanther
April 8th, 2012
8:47 am
DOB,
Why would you not treat these comments like you did those of
John Schuerholtz? Remeber, “heat of the moment?” Am I to reason that you think more of folks
here than you do Braves brass? Can’t have it both ways. I for one like great info like this piece, but it would nice if it were accompanied by an actual look at this team and how this team did nothing to improve itself in the offseason.
Jeff Van Gundy
April 8th, 2012
8:47 am
Poor DOB, had his feelings hurt by J-Man and decided to rant on how J Man didnt have to read this piece (of s$:’). Typical, ajc writer. They can dish it out but can’t take it. Consumers like J Man should criticize the lack of quality from this dreadful magazine.
Samantha
April 8th, 2012
8:52 am
Just Popped in to say Hi and wish everone Happy Easter. Go Braves.
Cee Jay
April 8th, 2012
9:10 am
Braves melted last fall….terrible spring…..0-2 vs Mets. Tell you what Freddi, how about the Braves hire Van Gundy because I believe you’re the mistake thats been made!!!!
vietnamvet
April 8th, 2012
9:11 am
Everyone has a right to his or her opinion. Everyone has a right to keep some of the opinions, to themselves. See FG.s opinion. That said: Here is mine; Fans do not go to basketball games to see a coach coach. The G in Orlando is going to follow the other G who was in Fla.
Jockich Ahn Smelley, II
April 8th, 2012
9:17 am
Goooo FREDI!!! It’ll look up for you soon…..Bobby Cox has a Hall of Fame roster for 14 years and wins ONE….ONE World Series….WHAT A JOKE!!! Give me Glavine, Maddux, and Smoltz and I can win ONE World Series, too!!!
NewYork1
April 8th, 2012
9:18 am
lets get Francona
Chris
April 8th, 2012
9:26 am
“I’d rather have Fredi Gonzalez for the next five years than another day of Bobby Cox.” This guy’s closer to right than most want to believe. I lived in a market for many years that has many world championships and I can tell you that we would never worship a guy who managed 1 world championship over almost 2 decades with one of the best pitching staffs in baseball…..with or without a slew of division titles. Frankly, as a non-groupie of the Cox/Chipper/Mcann era I don’t understand the celebration that follows these times. It’s weird.
A Father
April 8th, 2012
9:31 am
Smoltz for Manager
Chipper for hitting coach and still on roster to play
Greg Maddox for GM job
Fire frank wren and Fredi
Jeva
April 8th, 2012
9:33 am
Freddie, Chipper, Frank Wren, and the entire organization are just representation of the city and state we live in. The city’s business affairs are slighted and the state of Georgia cut unemployment benefits for good people who are actively seeking employment while the same politicians collect thousands of dollars from lobbyist for free gifts, entertainment, and trips. The Braves are true representation of this good old boy network, the only winners are selfish, ungodly individuals who prey on people for self gain. So all you complainers stop and take a hard look at the circumstances first.Dwight Howard has a right to express his concerns, but the people of Georgia do not.
redneckbluedog
April 8th, 2012
9:43 am
Freddie likes Jeff so well, he should go back to Miami……neither one of them will ever win a championship….
Regina
April 8th, 2012
9:47 am
If Gonzalez showed as much fire with his own team, I would respect his comment. Until the Braves win THEIR first game……
Mingo
April 8th, 2012
9:57 am
Why don’t you spend more time on the Braves and your lack of management skills instead of wasting time on talking to the media about something that is irrelevant in terms of what you need to be doing. I know, lets hire Stan Van Gundy as Braves manager, sure cannot be any worse.
gadawgs
April 8th, 2012
10:08 am
Hey Fredi…why don’t you try worrying about your own team instead of someone else’s? Focus on winning some games and managing your team. Which I am beginning to wonder if you can!!
Tommy
April 8th, 2012
10:09 am
Didn’t Magic Johnson get Paul Westhead fired in a similar manner to what Howard is doing?
Earl of Williams
April 8th, 2012
10:12 am
Fire Fredi now. He is in WAY over his head.
parabrave
April 8th, 2012
10:16 am
Hey Fredi quit worrying about your friends jobs and worry about yours. Losing 2 to the mets is unacceptable.
parabrave
April 8th, 2012
10:20 am
A Father I agree we should’ve gone after Franconia as soon as he was let go. However I would let Eddie Perez have his chance and bring on Galaraga(sp) if EP couldn’t get it going.
tulsabravo
April 8th, 2012
10:23 am
Worthless.
Sid
April 8th, 2012
10:28 am
I have to agree with the majority of responses. Fredi, keep your eye on the ball.
Rafael
April 8th, 2012
10:29 am
NOT only TWO losses, now with Fredi’s nephew Matt Diaz and Jack “Julio Lugo Lite” Wilson in todays starting lineup… that’s TWO SURE OUTS.
Matt “rakes lefthanders you know.”
Sid
April 8th, 2012
10:31 am
Win today or cut his butt loose………………lol…….sorry, couldn’t resist.
Had enough
April 8th, 2012
10:32 am
I am sick and tired of jim powell making the braves into the 1927 yanks.This guy is a terrible replacement for pete and skip.At least with them you knew that they would call the game right and not slanted toward the braves are getting no calls crap.That jim powell does.Oh grandma giffen is a transvestite too.
steve brown
April 8th, 2012
10:41 am
Wonder what Dwight Howard would score on the Wunderlick Test-I am sure he is a real genius and can play, coach and be general manager all at once. The inmates are taking over the asylum.
64 year Braves fan
April 8th, 2012
10:42 am
Durbin & Hernandez are this year’s Linebrink & Sherril. Get everbody on the cheap including the
manager who is a joke. Averaging 1 run per game will keep the fans away.
Bob Rathbun's Hairpiece
April 8th, 2012
10:43 am
Fredi becomes more of a joke as each day passes. DOB has short man disease. Very short man disease.
spike
April 8th, 2012
10:45 am
I guess I don’t mind the story, but Fredi’s decision to comment on the irrelevant, and DOB’s peevishness about being questioned are both par for the course. I can’t believe any of you are actually surprised by either. I suppose it beats answering/asking a few probing questions about some very odd bullpen and PH decisions though.
Nice day though – who’s up for a motorcycle ride?
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
11:07 am
Fredi knows nothing about baseball.Might as well give some NBA analysis,since he will soon be unemployed.Maybe they have room for another fat guy on TNT.
reality
April 8th, 2012
11:13 am
Someone mentioned earlier amazement at the Cox worship cult here in Atlanta. The reason is simple. Prior to the Cox era the Braves were horrible. Bobby (B manager) had the good fortune to manage some great A+ rosters to good B+ results. The natives were crazy for it. The Braves were relevant. Winning division championships became a supreme achievement – regular season champions! The fact that Bobby was a poor playoff coach was discounted. In a place that wont settle for B+/second place, this kind of performance is not acceptable. In Atlanta it is the golden era of Braves Baseball.
Now we have a C manager and a C- roster. And we are expecting A type results. Bobby could squeeze maybe 5 more wins out of this bunch
Say what you will about Bobby’s managing, but he was a genius to retire while his halo was so bright.
Bravesfan79
April 8th, 2012
11:13 am
This is just one article out of thousands (its seems) for the season. So who cares what the topic is! Dwight Howard is turning into a drama queen, and its sad to see one of the leagues classier guys turn into a heel.
That being said, i had a dream lastnight that Freddie got fired, and was replaced for the season with……. Bobby Cox. I thought it was a great move, at least in my sleep.
Superdave
April 8th, 2012
11:16 am
E
Bravesfan79
April 8th, 2012
11:16 am
Reaity: So i guess ud say the same thing about Joe Torree…. after all the Yankees didnt win a world series title there for many years towards his end, yet had a 200 million payroll.
Superdave
April 8th, 2012
11:19 am
Wow. Y’all are a lot of fair weather morons it looks like. You think just cuz Freddie knows what’s going on with his friends and some reporter asked about it it means it’s all he’s been focusing on? Absolutely not. 99% of the questions he answered the other day had to do with baseball. This one didn’t. So what? The guy has been Our manager for a year and had a pretty solid year at that last year. Yeah there was a bad collapse at the end, but it’s not like he was the one swinging the bats and throwing the pitches for the players. Y’all are very very dumb (most of you)
bobby
April 8th, 2012
11:20 am
What’s the over/under on the Braves winning 70 games this year?
tjhook
April 8th, 2012
11:25 am
DOB, the bloggers are right about the accountability issue. You should do a monthly review of the Braves’ performance. Look for consistency in offensive strategy and execution; afterwards the results should be presented to Gonzales and see how aware of those stats he is. People are critical of his performance because they don’t believe he has developed a versatile strategy or that the one he has lacks sophistication. Bobby was definitely on top of his options- even when people disagreed with them. We knew what the team would do and just waited on the result. Fredi is trying to be more diverse in his choices (which i like) but he does need to tighten up on the on base matchups and how to coax in more runs aka dictate to his batters more
Taylor Woote
April 8th, 2012
11:26 am
This Van Gundy-Howard thing is racial. Be sure if the Magic coach was black, Howard would be fine with it.
Taylor Woote
April 8th, 2012
11:28 am
And what in the heck is Livan Hernandez doing on the team. The dude cant hardly break 80 with his FB. He aint even a decent high school pitcher! Geez….this could be a long year.
tjhook
April 8th, 2012
11:34 am
SuperDave, fans are upset because the commentary is the most passionate we have seen Fredi since he became manager. Remember how cool he played it in September? Many people felt he should have dug into his players and dictated more during in-game strategy. Gonzales is a very nice guy but this roster needs some mentoring ASAP. And that’s including the veterans. Bobby valentine may be heavy-handed, but he has the juices flowing in Boston; the Braves need to work harder at trying to create runs during a game. They relax too much and that’s fredi’s area. Create some tension and see what happens
Rob M
April 8th, 2012
11:36 am
I still think the season is 162 games…….
I read this blog only to see what whiners are blabbing about after an 0-2 start. Get a life idiots…..
splendid splinter
April 8th, 2012
11:47 am
To paraphrase Rhett Butler (for those readers of Gone with the Wind) – these Braves fans don’t like Fredi Gonzalez, they don’t, they really don’t.
Bravesfan54
April 8th, 2012
11:51 am
Mitchell you are an idiot if you expect that any sportswriter can write what people tell him. Do you really think baseball people are generally talk to sportswriter during the season about what they really think. If a ballplayer has a relationship with people in the sport it is because they respect the difference between what is said in private and what is not.
Ryan
April 8th, 2012
11:52 am
Freddi see what Van Gundy says when your sorry ass gets fired. What the hell is Livan and Durbin doing on this team. Flande era in spring training 0.83 gets beat out by some over the hill guy with lifetime era over 5.oo. We always have to have a Proctor or Chavez to start a season.Since Remminger and Hammond that one year pan out we still think we will get lucky with these two that get released by Houston and Nats. Freddi Taco Bell needs you manage a store.
Threadkiller
April 8th, 2012
11:53 am
Braves win today, and Minor looks real good!
Larry
April 8th, 2012
11:59 am
“the Braves manager told him that he wished more owners were ex-coaches or ex-players.”
As a former two sport professional player, and subsequently a CEO of three different companies I built and sold, I can with some degree of experience that were I the owners of the Atlanta Braves, I’d fire Fredi Gonzales immediately for these comments.
I was blessed with a good right arm and good mind, mastering in bioengineering. However, the simple truth is the great majority of professional athletes are blesses with only the physical tool’s; most, in fact, falling grossly short of the mean IQ of the common man–baseball and basketball players among the most literate, frankly.
The reason Gonzalez would prefer more former players owners is he thinks they would understand his issues more, that they could relate to him. What he fails so ignorantly to consider is all the business and financial decisions coming from tremendous expertise to be profitable.
For him to suggest this is, in essence, saying you need to be like me so you can empathize or relate with me. Let me break it to you Fredi, I’ve heard you speak, and I’ve watched you coach, so if the owners of the Braves were at all like you, Fredi, they’d be bankrupt with days or weeks.
Keep trying to fill out a lineup card, Fredi–to date with the Braves, you can’t even manage this alone!
Nerdbucket Moylan
April 8th, 2012
12:05 pm
Fredi is a third base coach that got lucky. Send em back to waving runners in!
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
12:09 pm
Here for Braves content. Not sure why I’m reading about the Orlando Magic.
smallmouth6
April 8th, 2012
12:20 pm
DOB: You are the man!
Can Of Corn
April 8th, 2012
12:20 pm
JOB CHANGE
Maybe Fredi and Stan should exchange jobs.
Even Stan could do a better job with the Braves.
Ward.... It Ain't Working!
April 8th, 2012
12:24 pm
Not sure Fredi needs to play Wilson to “keep the bench sharp” on day number 3 of the season. I would rather see the regulars “get sharp” before being concerned about “keeping the bench sharp.”
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
12:26 pm
If you had apoll on whether Fredi Gonzalez should be fired over 70% would fire him
Charlie
April 8th, 2012
12:28 pm
Fredi should shut his mouth. He was at the helm for the biggest choke job in NL history. He’s got this years team contiuing that same style of play. His comments after every screw-up loss are nothing but positive player spins. Fredi talks pretty tough from the outside. When it’s his own garbage, it’s a different story. He’s a joke.
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
12:29 pm
Whats todays line-up?
iTiSi
April 8th, 2012
12:30 pm
Come on DOB, you’re better than this. I would expect this from a “rookie” writer. This is totally irrelevant and pure garbage!
Nerdbucket Moylan
April 8th, 2012
12:31 pm
maybe we need three hitting coaches? Wonder if we will see a cox-like throw in the towel, sunday lineup
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
12:32 pm
What will it take to make you forget about the collapse?
The collapse put the continuing downfall into perspective. League pennants, division winners, first round exits, wild card, more first round exits, then the wild card collapse. Now that there is no passion in ownership, the budget is tight and hamstrung with the gift of HR or K/fly out Dan Uggla to Fredi, and the games are slow watching paint dry affairs, I’m not sure what it will take to get me back into the fold. I’ve seen Larvell Blanks and Mike Lum play live, loved Pepe Frias for his name, been one fan on a night with 5,000 in attendance, but this is the first real crisis of fandom. I spend good money for good seats when Lincecum, Kershaw or Halladay come to town, but I did not watch one playoff or World Series game, almost quit my roto league, and barely followed any news this off season.
I have my tickets to Chipper’s last home game, the question is, will I attend a game before then?
So, I ask you, what will it take to get back behind this team?
David O'Brien
April 8th, 2012
12:33 pm
DOB, the bloggers are right about the accountability issue. — tjhook
Aren’t they always?
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
12:34 pm
never mind..just saw on TV Wilson SS and Diaz in LF..O-My God..Pray!
David O'Brien
April 8th, 2012
12:34 pm
I guess I don’t mind the story, but Fredi’s decision to comment on the irrelevant, and DOB’s peevishness about being questioned are both par for the course. I can’t believe any of you are actually surprised by either. I suppose it beats answering/asking a few probing questions about some very odd bullpen and PH decisions though.
Nice day though – who’s up for a motorcycle ride? — spike
It’d be a perfect day for it here (and in Atlanta, from what I understand. Nice weather there, too, right?)
Judging from your tone, you might want to consider getting a bike (motorcycle). Great way to relax.
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
12:35 pm
Does Coach Van Gundy need a job next year ,I think there will be an opening in the ATL very soon.
David O'Brien
April 8th, 2012
12:35 pm
Fredi becomes more of a joke as each day passes. DOB has short man disease. Very short man disease. – Bob Rathbun’s Hairpiece
No doubt.
David O'Brien
April 8th, 2012
12:36 pm
Poor DOB, had his feelings hurt by J-Man and decided to rant on how J Man didnt have to read this piece (of s$:’). Typical, ajc writer. They can dish it out but can’t take it. — Jeff Van Gundy
Yes, it was all I could do to gather myself and make it to the ballpark on time today, so shattered was I by J-Man’s critique. Please be gentle with me the rest of the day.
David O'Brien
April 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
DOB,
Why would you not treat these comments like you did those of
John Schuerholtz? Remeber, “heat of the moment?” Am I to reason that you think more of folks
here than you do Braves brass? Can’t have it both ways. — AtlPanther
Huh?
Actually, nevermind.
iTiSi
April 8th, 2012
12:38 pm
For those who missed J-Man’s post at 4AM(and you may have) go back and read it. It’s well worth the time as he “hit the target dead center”. May make some people mad, like AJC sportswriters, but it’s the truth. These are the same guys who were saying spring training games were no big deal when everyone was ranting, but now looks like we all knew what we were seeing and they didn’t.
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
12:39 pm
DOB I like the info..players etc have other things in their life thats also interesting..Keep up the great job.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
12:40 pm
Diaz in RF? Wilson at SS? Pastornicky is a kid, he does not need rest. Why is Francisco not at 3b and Prado in LF? It’s not fair to Prado to bounce him between 3b and LF. It’s crap like this Fredi…
A Father
April 8th, 2012
12:43 pm
parabrave: I look for someone that has a fire in his belly, under control but will fight in the drop of the hat if need be – thus you have John Smoltz.
Greg Maddox would ‘ MANDATE’ playing the game full speed or you would not be a brave or work for the Braves.
Chipper, without a doubt one of the all time great players and hitters, passion for the game is second to none.
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
12:44 pm
The Mets are starting a left handed pitcher. I guess Francisco is only going to play against right handed starters. Any way isn’t Chipper coming back on Tuesday.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
12:44 pm
“Judging from your tone, you might want to consider getting a bike (motorcycle). Great way to relax.”
Sounds like you may need to ship your motorcycle on road trips, lol… No place like home. Unless your the Braves where home is where the playoff runs end.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Francisco hit lefties fine in the minors. Well, .269 anyhow. That glorious Diaz season was like 5 years ago or something. Just leave Prado in LF everyday, leave Diaz on the bench and play Francisco when Chipper needs a spell. Next season it’s Francisco v. Terdo for 3b, so, let’s see what we have.
Nerdbucket Moylan
April 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
greg maddux for manager. period
Never Too Early to Panic
April 8th, 2012
12:52 pm
Over/under 3 for runs scored by Braves today?
I say under since it’s a lefty pitching
Hope Minor and the pen can shut them out today or the Braves will be heading to Houston 0-3.
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
A playoff contending team needs ballplayers who can hit righties and lefties, regardless of what side of the plate they hit from. I am tired of that excuse.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
Well I have apparently become “The voice of reason”……..and thats sad lol. But the fact is Braves fans are upset with lackluster performance, not just from the team on the field but the front office and ownership. That 10 1/2 game choke job still resinates with Braves nation. And the fact that ownership did nothing to improve this team has mad an overwelming majority of Braves fans weary. In the entertain industry such as professional sports, perception soon becomes reality and soon we will see all-time attendance numbers. This team is not a exciting team and they lose. Which is a bad combination.
Can Of Corn
April 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
ANOTHER MADDUX VOTE
I’d love to see Wren bring in Maddux as the next Braves manager — ASAP!
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
12:59 pm
Well I have apparently become “The voice of reason”……..and thats sad lol. But the fact is Braves fans are upset with lackluster performance, not just from the team on the field but the front office and ownership. That 10 1/2 game choke job still resinates with Braves nation. And the fact that ownership did nothing to improve this team has mad an overwelming majority of Braves fansare weary. In the entertainment industry such as professional sports, perception soon becomes reality and soon we will see all-time attendance numbers (in the wrong direction). This team is not a exciting team and they lose. Which is a bad combination.
iTiSi
April 8th, 2012
12:59 pm
Don’t look now but the Braves are holding down last place in the standings. Looks rather weird but may stay this way the rest of the season. Washington and Houston on top, Phillies in the middle, and ATL and Miami on the bottom. Oh, guess FG is resting some of the “regulars” on Sunday like Cox use to do. After all it has been a long season so far. Also, think maybe he is looking at the first half of the year as an extension of spring training, and they will jack it up after the all star break. Those are the only games that really count anyway. Yep, I am full of SARCASM today!
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:01 pm
Me too corn….
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
1:01 pm
How about next season? Can’t Prado be the everyday 3B. The Braves brought back Diaz last year ,why not try to bring back Francouer this year. He would be a definite improvement over what the Braves have in the outfield now. He has a reasonable contract and was a fan favorite ,before Bobby ran him out of town. Now that Bobby has retired maybe Francouer could come back,it would be better than this current bunch of talented but unmotivated outfielders the Braves have now.
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:03 pm
Yea, tell FG ST is over.
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
1:03 pm
Happy Easter! Ball game on! Braves are gonna pound the Mets! I just took my meds!
iTiSi
April 8th, 2012
1:06 pm
Right, J-Man, and if the AJC writers were telling it like it is and putting some heat on LIKE THEY DO IN MOST MLB CITIES, then some changes might be made. The writers have direct contact with the fans and are our sounding boards. Doesn’t seem like this is getting passed on to the brass at the top. Everything is just “peachy” as far as they are concerned. I am still wondering if the AJC sports guys are going to let FG get away with what he said last night, or will check it out. Once again, he said, very emphatically that “most teams who score first win the game”. It would be interesting to know if that is correct or he just pulled it out of the air, as he does sometimes. I’m guessing it’s about 50-50. We can’t check with Elias Sports Bureau, but sportswriters can. How about it, DOB? Is that a fact or not? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:06 pm
Hell no to Frenchy…Cox didn’t run him out of town–Frenchy did it to himself. Majority of fans wanted him gone.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
1:12 pm
Uggla is Prado’s problem. We spent what little money we had covering a position we already had covered. And by Uggla, I mean management, I don’t seem to dislike Uggla personally, but, he’s a high K all or nothing .260 hitter. Yes he has power, but I was cool with Prado hitting .310 from the 2b position.
I like Francisco, that pick-up has every potential to be a good one. His biggest problem was Dusty Baker. Just play him. Of course, with Uggla, we’d have two high-power high-K guys, but whatever, this is still a sketchy 3HR kinda offense.
Frenchy was a football player out of high school and saw very little minor league action. His problem was combining that lack of fundamentals with a hard head. If Heyward pans out, and I have not lost faith in him, RF is covered for 10 years.
The correct lineup, given what we have now is Prado in LF everyday, Jones/Francisco at 3b.
What I would give to trade Diaz for Gregor Blanco for that role.
The Lawyer
April 8th, 2012
1:14 pm
Interesting blog DOB… Good thoughts from Fredi.
The middle of the lineup is 0-fer the year? Folks, that won’t hold. We’re going to see some runs. Actually, we’ve been mediocre on the mound for much of the spring. That’s the biggest issue I’ve seen. We need to have our starters pitch to contract, get in and out of innings, and save the pen. This bullpen is lights out money. We get the game into the 7th and 8th with a lead…. Going to win a lot of games.
Would like to see someone added to the lineup. We can’t count on Chipper, dude can barely get from the dugout to third base on those wheels.
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
1:15 pm
Niese can’t find strike zone.
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:16 pm
anything but Diaz..
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:17 pm
0-11, nice . Blow this team up and start over
Tomahawk Mafia
April 8th, 2012
1:18 pm
It was encouraging for Prado and Uggla to work walks, but the struggles to hit with runners on base persist. Frustrating.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
1:18 pm
Just now watching yesterday’s game, since I don’t have cable TV. Nice snare by Francisco on Wright’s liner in the 8th. We have the 3b platoon covered with this guy. Just let him play.
bravesgirl4life
April 8th, 2012
1:19 pm
YAHOO !!!!!!! my ROY HALLADAY and CLIFF LEE JERSEY just arrived at the door, they are awsom, i think i will ordet a HUNTER PENCE jersey later today, GO PHILLIES, BRAVES BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cabravesfan
April 8th, 2012
1:21 pm
TEJADA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
1:21 pm
Halladay is something else for sure. But as boring as the Braves are, the Phillies are old. Get back to us when Rollins’ calf flares up, Utley can’t go, who is at 3rd? And Howard tweak his legs since he’s a big dude on hobbled wheels, lol.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:21 pm
Great start #36! Game over
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:22 pm
Fundamentals by mets, must be nice
flbraveslady
April 8th, 2012
1:22 pm
Settle down, Minor.
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
1:22 pm
Cholulu
Name one current Braves outfielder who had a better season than Frenchy had last year. He mouthed off to Cox and Bobby ran him off . He damn sure did not improve the team by getting some washed up player from the Mets who now out of baseball .
Collins
April 8th, 2012
1:23 pm
I have never seen so many bandwagon jumping crybabies in all my life. You only support when things are going great. Another example of “everybody should get a trophy, and if it’s my fault, it isn’t” mentality. Yeah, it’s time to panic!!!! Only 160 games to go!!! You Johnny come lateleys are so spoiled. If you werent around for the Braves in the 70s and 80s, I really don’t want to hear you bitching about a bad team.
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:24 pm
Prado would have caught that ball..Diaz had to think before moving..which way to go?#@*
flbraveslady
April 8th, 2012
1:25 pm
Looks like the village is missing its idiot.
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
1:25 pm
Get a man on, move him over, get him in with a fly ball to the OF. Ingenious!
Tomahawk Mafia
April 8th, 2012
1:25 pm
Unfortunately that was good baseball by the Mets to score the leadoff double without any problem.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:26 pm
I guess I can turn off the game now. Mets scored and we know the braves can’t. Simple math
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
1:29 pm
Diaz stumbling around LF, awesome.
I’ve been a fan since 1979. Loved Garry Mathews. Thought Bob Horner was the answer. Witness the Len Barker deal go down in real time, was running around Peachtree Street drunk in 1991, crying when the Yankees busted us up, twice, and watched in horror as the Astros, Giants and Cubs all sent the Braves home early in the playoffs. So, you have to put up with my kvetching.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
1:29 pm
Beth Keener only makes this worse with her (a) topic…. and (b) voice.
Dumbest idea yet.
nobody
April 8th, 2012
1:30 pm
DOB is being a little testy today lol
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:30 pm
Thanks Mr Collins..I was there in 60 until now…u taking a lot for granted by saying bandwagon, crybabies like we don’t care.If you don’t like the bitching don’t read..take your wife out to eat and play with the kids. When did you become the Braves fan judge?
Get a life.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
1:30 pm
Yea fundamental baseball………We havent seen that in a while. In fact we havent seen that since Bobby was here.
Ryan
April 8th, 2012
1:30 pm
Thats how you play this game double get him over then hit SF. Braves will take two months to do that.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
1:30 pm
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/gary_matthews_autograph.jpg
lol
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
1:31 pm
3 walks before any outs in the 2nd inning.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
1:32 pm
DOB is upset at me because I kinda exposed everything with my 4 am post.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
1:32 pm
If that’s what Heyward is swinging at, Greg Walker can’t do any better than Satan Parrish.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:32 pm
Heyward sucks. What a piece of shyt. Im so sick of this loser. Get rid of him PLEASE. BUST!!!
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
1:34 pm
I’ll say this Heyward is doing his job by getting on base
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:35 pm
Greg Walker is not hitting..J-Hey is..consider who he has to work with.
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
1:35 pm
I hear Greg Norton is available.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:35 pm
0-12 RISP this year, and counting. Nice
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
1:35 pm
Well I guess It will be a 4-1 loss for the Braves today
2K91
April 8th, 2012
1:36 pm
I don’t know if it is cool, horrible, or embarassing but in the 3rd inning of the third game of the season I am still tied for second on the Braves in RBI and tied for first in hits with RISP.
All from the comfort of my easy chair!
Oh and Heyward has a hitch in his swing.
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:36 pm
J-hey has got on this year..Thats good ..thanks GW.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
1:37 pm
I have faith in Heyward. Too many people in his ear. He’s gonna walk. Let him get back to swinging at his pitch and he’ll be fine. Every busts on him, but they forget how electric he can be. He’s freaking 22 years old.
Rilo
April 8th, 2012
1:37 pm
Same team…same results. Who would of thought?
Rilo
April 8th, 2012
1:37 pm
Same team…same results. Who would of thought?
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
1:38 pm
This has no-hitter written all over it.
Anything to get management to take the horse behind the barn, because UNLESS there’s a change there will be AT LEAST 90 more of these cluster games we’ll get to “enjoy” this season en route to a fine draft position next June.
Spring training made no difference — this has just been games 163, 164 and 165 of 2011.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
1:38 pm
Yea most 22 year old players are in Double A so I feel Heyward is just fine
Who Me?
April 8th, 2012
1:38 pm
DOB’s getting testy, haven’t seen that side of him in a while….
Cholulu
April 8th, 2012
1:38 pm
agree count-S..
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
1:41 pm
@ Who Me? …….Its my fault I just opened Pandora’s Box by point out the way the Atlanta media coddles Fredi Gonzalez. And I pointed the people are Fed up with Fredi
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
1:41 pm
Minor backed off Tejada and let him get away, but he has looked good since then. Going after the hitters now.
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
1:43 pm
Collins
Been a Braves fan since ‘66 ,I remember when the Braves Bandwagon had no wheels. But this current group of Braves seem to have that entitled air to them that you mention in your previous post.There is no one held accountable for their lackluster performance.They don’t do the small things that winning teams do to score runs .They swing for the fences when just making contact can score a run.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
1:44 pm
@ Who Me? …….Its my fault I just opened Pandora’s Box by pointing out the way the Atlanta media coddles Fredi Gonzalez. And I pointed the people are Fed up with Fredi. Besides he wouldnt be getting mad like this if there wasnt truth to what I’m saying, because people come in here all the time and ramble, myself included. But DOB tends to ignore them as he should when they have no relevant point. But I do and he doesnt like it.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
1:47 pm
I predicted a 4-1 loss well i might be wrong. It might be 4-0
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
1:48 pm
Bourn is playing his way right out of a big Boras contract……he has for the most part been disapointing since he arrived.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:48 pm
This team sucks. Essh. Getting bent over again
carlchamblee
April 8th, 2012
1:49 pm
Coming up next: Fredi weighs in on the 2012 presidential race and the Trayvon Martin situation. Beth Keener reads a tweet from Kelli G “woo hoo go braves u r awsum”
Anything but real managing and real critique and analysis of baseball. This franchise is fast on its way to jokedom.
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
1:50 pm
Niese and his ugly nose just struck out the side.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:50 pm
Nice inning! Mac is a tool.
Jay Dubu
April 8th, 2012
1:52 pm
Fedi has enough of his own issues to worry about, and should have told whomever asked him about basketball as much.
The Braves can’t score against the Mets without a HR, and have sored 2 runs in 20 innings against the team most so called experts picked to finish last in the division, and he wants to so he has a pair in responding to something that has nothing to do with his game.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
1:53 pm
If Mauchzalez announces at a news conference tomorrow that a bunch of us want him out, I’m sure all of us wouldn’t mind showing up to CONFIRM that.
Unlike that wussy Dwight Howard did with Van Gundy.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
1:55 pm
Thats why I love these Braves.You can jump in after 3 innings and know you didn’t miss a thing.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
1:55 pm
How about an idea. Trade some of this great pitching ( I guess ) for some hitting.
Superdave
April 8th, 2012
1:58 pm
Y’all make me embarrassed to be a brass fan. We’re two games into the year jeez calm down
Superdave
April 8th, 2012
1:59 pm
*braves fan (iPhone autocorrect)
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
1:59 pm
BETH KEENER #irritating #badidea #goaway
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
1:59 pm
To be fair, pitching has been very strong for the first weekend of the year, but the hitting has been non-existence in all areas since July of last year.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:01 pm
take a seat Uggla, no bases empty 3-run HR for you
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
2:02 pm
At least Freeman stopped the strike out streak, although it was with about the weakest ground ball that you will see in the major leagues…
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
2:03 pm
2 runs in the last 32 innings. No lead.
First time I’ve seen a team quit in April.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
2:05 pm
The no no is alive.GMAFB.
CaliChopper
April 8th, 2012
2:06 pm
When did the Braves stop winning games? When they traded for that no hitting back up shortstop, who has never played in a playoff game, Wilson. FW brought him back and the trend continued thru spring training and now into the season against a weak Mets team.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:08 pm
I will give us fans credit. No “I told you so” with Melk Dud. He was miserable when he was here.
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Mister Frisky is right about the no no. Do you think the other Mets players are already avoiding Niece in the dugout since they know it is a real possiblity with this Braves lineup?
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
2:11 pm
Melky — enough said. Always will be fat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufICeiWz56A
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:13 pm
4 consecutive walks and we could tie this thing up!
spike
April 8th, 2012
2:14 pm
Judging from your tone, you might want to consider getting a bike (motorcycle). Great way to relax.
Thanks for your concern – I have a ‘55 pan, ‘93 FXRP, and ‘01 FLHRPI. They are most relaxing. Judging from your tone, I am going to assume you are on the road without one. Shame – seems like you couild unwind a bit yourself.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:14 pm
I think we need to change the lyrics of the 1970s band Player song “Baby come back” to” Bobby come back”
Spending all my nights
All my money spent on watching this clown
Doing anything just to get him of my mind
But when the Bar Tab comes
I’m right back hoping they fire Fredi again
Trying to like him is just a waste of time
Bobby come back, any kind of fool could see
That you are better in everything you dooooo
Bobby come back, you can blame it all on me
Frank was wrong, and we just can’t live without you
All day long, he misuses Martin Prado
Trying to keep up the smile while I chug my beer
But as my team goes down
I get that empty feeling again
How I wish to God that you were here
Bobby come back, any kind of fool could see
That you are better in everything you dooooo
Bobby come back, you can blame it all on me
Frank was wrong, and we just can’t live without you
Now that hes put us in the cellar
Give me the chance to make a plea
Your a better manager with courage and a heart
Fredi is nothing worth to see
Ain’t there nothing left for me
Bobby come back, any kind of fool could see
That you are better in everything you doooooo
Bobby come back, listen, you can blame it all on me
Frank was wrong, and we just can’t live without you
We were wrong, and we just can’t live
LAG
April 8th, 2012
2:16 pm
7-5-6 DP. I’ll take it.
South ga boy in the ATL
April 8th, 2012
2:17 pm
Calling all car. Hey frank would u plz get us another left handed slap hitter We need the entire starting lineup to be left handed hitters. Of course, frank you couldn’t have, possibly, seen ahead that we had McCann and Chipper (I know he’s a switch hitter but he has no power from the right) with Freeman and J-Hey coming, all lefty’s. And don’t say Uggla. He’s one guy. Just keep sitting on all those Gwinnett pitchers that other teams would give a kings ransom to get. They are gonna win a lot of games this yr……for the Gwinnett Braves that is. Yea Frank we have enough offense… To win 80-85 games. And then we, as long time Braves fans, get ridiculed by other posters on DOB’s blog for not being willing to put up with mediocre, at best, offense while Wren sits on a plethora of young pitchers that he could trade for offense. Yea we Braves fans are the problem. RIDICULOUS.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:18 pm
Bobby was great. He made baseball a reality in Atlanta, but, the peaked in the early mid-90s. He gave us solid regular season baseball year in and year out though despite what people said about him not having to do anything due to the big 3. About redi [sic] for the Francona era actually.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:20 pm
Jack Wilson grounds out? No way!
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:21 pm
Don Sutton beginning to tip his cap to Niese a little early on the radio side of things…
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
2:22 pm
Are you kidding me? How fast was that half an inning? I just turned to the Masters for what I thought was maybe five minutes and I come back to see another Brave player striking out to end the inning. WTF?
ray k
April 8th, 2012
2:22 pm
The manager is like a president: they get too much credit when they win, and too much blame when they lose. This goes way beyond Fredi. It’s a systemic problem now. It’s the post HOF pitching, post Bobby, post 100 million plus payroll era, and things are going to be different.
Raising our pitchforks and torches and demanding DOB storm the front office like the sheriff of righteousness, and asking questions like, “What were you thinking today? Diaz in the 9th? Why! WHY!” is very misguided. We think the reason we all clamor for DOB to tackle Fredi and start pummeling him about his head is we want some accountability–some fair minded journalism, damnit!–but if we stop and took a breath we’d realize we are giving in to a much more primal uncivilized emotion: revenge.
After the parade of division titles, we have become so conditioned to winning, anything resembling mediocrity becomes unacceptable.
And we want someone to pay for taking that euphoria away from us! We don’t have an access card, so we heave this grotesque responsibility onto DOB to make the pain go away under the pretense of asking hard hitting questions. This is the guy who has recently come to loggerheads with Chipper Jones and a slew of others over the years and still has to work with these people daily.
I get worked up almost daily watching these games, and I spew my share of sarcasm–mocking Diaz’s ineptitude is within the spirit of the blog, I think–but asking DOB to be our union representative and to take our demands to Fredi is when we become a bit unhinged, I think.
It’s not as though we aren’t armed with our own rebellions. We can NOT go to games. And the best part about that is it sends a message AND it restores our emotional balance.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:22 pm
I wish we would wear beanies just so we would have to “Tip our caps”
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
2:23 pm
Are you kidding me? How fast was that half inning? I turned the station to watch the Masters for what I thought was five minutes and I come back to see another Braves player striking out.
Fredi "Tip Your Cap" Gonzalez
April 8th, 2012
2:24 pm
Hey guys, we were going to get this ship righted. I have alot of work to do but guys aren’t going to hang their heads. There is no shame in being potentially swept by the Mets. They are helluva ballclub. A dynasty in the making. Well, guys, I gotta go. Looks like I need my get wrist ready to tip my cap in about a hour.
What we are being “no hit”. Well guys look, this isn’t some mediocre pitcher from a mediocre ballclub. This is a future Hall of Famer we are talking about. Its not like Jonathon Niese is some run of the mill pitcher with a career ERA over 4.00.
-Fredi TYC out!
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:26 pm
Braves fans are pissed plain and simple.
0-162
April 8th, 2012
2:26 pm
Wow. This team is simply bad.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:28 pm
How can one of the teams that invented the TV revenue stream give themselves the shaft like this? The Braves own the Southeast. There are no other teams down here other than the Rays and Marlins. Braves Country is Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, both Carolinas and lot of Florida.
For a corporate team run by bean counters, a Media bean counting outfit too no less, it’s inexcusable to hamstring the team like this. As attendance dwindles the revenue stream will only continue to shrink. Enjoy Uggla, his modest signing is the last FA we are likely to see for a while. And, yes, that goes for McCann unless his hometown discount is some kind of extreme.
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
2:28 pm
How good a team do the Braves have? Could any Brave on this team make the Mets starting line up. I know it is an extreme thought ,but it may be true.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
2:29 pm
I was watching the masters for an half an hour and foolishly clicked back to see how my Braves were doing. I realized the Mets already scored and we cant. Game OVER
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:31 pm
I like how the Braveslive people are only showing thetweets of fans who say th same thin…..”Its only 2 games we have a whole season in front of us” Maybe I’ll put something like that up just to get my name on TV lol
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
2:32 pm
J-Man,Love your passion and fire.Something this organization lacks top to bottom.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:33 pm
I like how the Braveslive people are only showing the tweets of fans who say th same thing…..”Its only 2 games we have a whole season in front of us” Maybe I’ll put something like that up just to get my name on TV lol
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:33 pm
damn it
The Perfect Chop
April 8th, 2012
2:33 pm
4-0 sweet! Go Bravos
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:34 pm
I said that the Mets would win 4-1…….well I got the 4 covered now if we can score 1
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
2:34 pm
well, that should do it boys and girls. Going to be a long season I am afraid.
Frediot
April 8th, 2012
2:35 pm
We need more bunts and to stop valuing OBP so much.
sirluciouscp
April 8th, 2012
2:35 pm
Did FREDI THE CLOWN REALLY SAY HE WAS “TRYING TO KEEP THE BENCH SHARP ALREADY”, MAN SEND THIS CLOWN BACK TO TEE-BALL WHERE HE BELONGS. We’ve two freakin runs and he wants to keep the scrubs sharp. Lololololololololololololololol.
jmo
April 8th, 2012
2:35 pm
SO much cap tipping after this game! Can’t wait–I’m ready. I’m grabbing two hats–two-fist the cap tipping.
South ga boy in the ATL
April 8th, 2012
2:36 pm
There is a lot of truth in what you say Ray. But the 90’s are gone and I think most long term fans realize this. Ted doesn’t own the team so the Braves have financial constraints now and that’s frustrating to most longerm fans. I think most of us realize this. The mind boggling issue for me is the shear blindness by Wren that we don’t have enough offense, we are way too left handed a lineup so we get totally handcuffed by good left handed pitching, and there is such a lack of clutch hitting. We may lose a game 1-0, then 2-1, and win the third game of a series 11-2 and if you add up the total runs it doesn’t look so terrible but we all know the utter lack of clutch hitting on this team the last 3 yrs or so. And yet Wren has trading chips in all of our young starter but he will not pull the trigger, and I think it’s because it would be an admission that he has failed to put a credible offense on the field to potentially win a championship, even though we have the pitching to do just that. It baffles me to know end
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
2:37 pm
The Mets pitcher looks better at the plate then the 9 knobs Fredo has thrown out there.
G
April 8th, 2012
2:37 pm
Frank Wren is a joke!!
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:38 pm
Maybe the Braves front office can give away 25000 Braves Caps for the 1st home game so everyone can “Tip their cap” at the end of the game
Frediot
April 8th, 2012
2:38 pm
Mets could have their franchise’s first no-hitter today.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
2:39 pm
Definitely want to hear the ol’ PR machine saying it’s only one weekend of baseball.
This team will not play for this manager. Plain and simple. He doesn’t have the locker room, except maybe for his godson Uggla.
rugburn
April 8th, 2012
2:39 pm
i have followed the braves since 1969. i was 10. no band wagon jumping for me (on or off) and this team looks bad. it was so bad in the 70’s and 80’s that i was allowed to pick a 2nd favorite so i would have a team to cheer for in the 2nd half of the season. looks like we are about back to that point now. go braves…game is basically over but let’s at least get a hit.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:40 pm
New Braves cap should have a hinge built into the visor to facilitate E-Z tipping.
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
2:40 pm
The leaders about to tee off in Augusta. I believe that I will be checking out of the Braves game at this point. Hopefully that at least can break up the no hitter.
F. Wren
April 8th, 2012
2:40 pm
We didn’t need to get a power bat this offseason, oh no. Our offense is great.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:41 pm
No-Hitter through 6 innings
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:41 pm
Collapse, followed by season opening sweep and a possible no-hitter? Riot mode in effect.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:42 pm
This is what happens when you dont fire your manager after having a historic collapse, and do nothing to improve your team.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
2:42 pm
The A Bomb is on to something.They don’t play for Fredo,plain and simple.I know this is a terrible offense but they have zero pride as men and so called elite athletes.It has to be the manager.
TBbravesfan
April 8th, 2012
2:42 pm
looks lik the saason ends in new york.
Ralph
April 8th, 2012
2:43 pm
J-MAN
Do you honestly think 25 thousans people will show up even for a free hat?
Reality
April 8th, 2012
2:43 pm
Whatever happened to the Braves in September 2011, it never left.
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
2:43 pm
When is the last time the Braves opened a season by being swept by a bad team? After finishing the previous season with a losing streak? I know it’s a long season, but this is the same team, performing in the exact same way. The only thing that has changed is the pitching, and it has gotten worse.
Ralph
April 8th, 2012
2:46 pm
I hope he pitches a no-no, then maybe Front Office will wake up and do something, though I doubt it, they could care less.
4th place finish...bank on it
April 8th, 2012
2:46 pm
Pretty pathetic effort so far. Everyone looks like Cy Young and Rolaids Firemen Relief pitchers of the year against this lifeless, punch and Judy bunch.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:47 pm
Well DOB has been quiet since the 3rd inning…….Guess that proves my point about the Fredi Gonzalez Coddling of the Atlanta beat writers right.
Ralph
April 8th, 2012
2:47 pm
Leave him out there Fruti, save th.e bullpen
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:48 pm
@ Ralph you do have a point
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
2:48 pm
Dr. John Z…..’87 Braves got swept by Chicago to open season — bad team. Went 0-10 to start.
Finished 54-106. The horror. But as a tribute Minor sort of has Zane Smith stuff.
Larry Parrish
April 8th, 2012
2:49 pm
Ha! Ha! And you rednecks thought I was the Braves hitters problems last year ? Greg Walker couldn’t hold my jock….
Braves have one good hitter, Chipper Jones. But he stays on the DL more than a drug addict stays on drugs. The rest of the hitters are just stealing money daily. They get paid to hit but don’t care.
Preston Hannitized
April 8th, 2012
2:49 pm
Next big idea … Four hitting coaches.
rugburn
April 8th, 2012
2:50 pm
sounds like the announcers are already making excuses for houston beating us next. “they will throw 2 left-handers in the series”
anonymous
April 8th, 2012
2:51 pm
DOB is in the tank fore Braves Management just like the AJC is in the tank for Obama.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:51 pm
Just play the hitting coaches. How bad could Walker and Pendleton be?
TBbravesfan
April 8th, 2012
2:51 pm
pathetic
TBbravesfan
April 8th, 2012
2:52 pm
you can’t judge a team on how they play the braves
jmo
April 8th, 2012
2:53 pm
and now they’re talking up how great the Mets are. When on earth is someone going to blame this team for its own failure? Nauseating.
Jay Dubu
April 8th, 2012
2:53 pm
Braves haven’t had a starter get to 5.1 innings pitched, and have 2 hits in 11 innings against left handed starters, yet Fredi has time to lend to worrying about basketball.
What a joke bot Fredi and the writers that were interested in that!
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:55 pm
Bring yourself forward DOB and hold Fredi accountable
Matt from MN
April 8th, 2012
2:55 pm
This organization could not have imagined a more horrid start to the season.
Fire Wren, Liberty Media and Fredi!
TBbravesfan
April 8th, 2012
2:56 pm
braves slump stoppers and ralley starters.
Tip O' the Cap
April 8th, 2012
2:57 pm
When does the mercy rule kick in? Can you spell s-w-e-e-p?!
Mr. Met
April 8th, 2012
2:58 pm
We about to sweep your sorry Braves. But WE were supposed to finish last in East ? We’ve got minor leaguers better than Jason Heyward.
I see somebody bailed Christian Martinez out of jail for that DUI ? He is pitching like he is still hung over…
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:58 pm
Diaz is gassed from chasing down balls in LF. We may need to rest him the rest of the season.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:58 pm
Well I was wrong I though the Mets would only score 4 points. I’m also wrong because I thought the Braves would muster up 1 run………See DOB thats how you admit your wrong. Now try it with Fredi Gonzalez. Trust me the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.
rugburn
April 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
chipper could be in the line-up for our first win. maybe we’ll run into a team that self-destructs….our hitting sucks and our pitching has gotten worse every day. only game 3 …
bustersonly
April 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
Does anyone have any question now as to wheather or not Medlen should be in the rotation?
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
Looks like Cmart left his fastball in the Drunk Tank.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
Mr. Met, nothing you could say at this point. And don’t be hatin’ just cuz’ we’re talking your spot in last place.
Brian "Boob" McCann
April 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
“Well we’ve had a few good swings today. And if we get one hit today I’ll be satisfied. But if we don’t thats okay too because the Mets obviously have at least 3 Cy Young contending pitchers. Like Coach Fredi always says: you gotta tip your cap to them Mets. We’ll keep trying and remain oblivious to the fact that are team is garbage.”
Dr. John Zoydberg
April 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
Done with this. Happy Easter, everybody.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
Well I was wrong I thought the Mets would only score 4 points. I’m also wrong because I thought the Braves would muster up 1 run………See DOB thats how you admit your wrong. Now try it with Fredi Gonzalez. Trust me the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.
b
April 8th, 2012
3:01 pm
Fredi forgot to say his “you know what”.
Ralph
April 8th, 2012
3:01 pm
Everone knows Minor can’t go more than 5 innings, except fro Fruti that is.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:01 pm
BETH: Yay Braves! Yay!
Jay Dubu
April 8th, 2012
3:02 pm
Dr. JZ, the Braves are a bad team. The starting pitching is suspect, and they have no offense to spek of. Can only score runs if they hit a HR.
Reality
April 8th, 2012
3:02 pm
Everyone keeps saying the Braves will finish fourth in the NL East. Who’s supposed to finish below them?
jmo
April 8th, 2012
3:03 pm
haha Joe “Braves need a hit.” Oh is that it? Just one hit and we can all go home happy.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
3:03 pm
DOB,You win a Pulitzer, if you can find anything besides the back of the bully that is major league on this team.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
3:03 pm
Should be interesting. Niese has 90 pitches and 3 innings to go.
rugburn
April 8th, 2012
3:03 pm
why do we have to have tweeting on tv. if you are going to do that, show some of the glass half empty tweets. only pollyanna tweets make it to tv.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:04 pm
We are the REAL BRAVE FANS. We demand better from our team and we are tired of “TIPPING OUR CAPS”
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:05 pm
Nothing more to watch. Except the post game PR machine.
Man. 69-93 with this talent.
LAG
April 8th, 2012
3:05 pm
And the Mets remain no-hitter-less.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:06 pm
@ rugburn. I pointed that out that they are only posting the “Fredi friendly” tweets. In fact if they posted some of the majority of tweets they would not like it
rugburn
April 8th, 2012
3:06 pm
tip your cap to freeman. mr. met, we have minor leaguers better than j-hey too.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:07 pm
Wait Chip….we’re down 7-1 and THINGS ARE GETTING MORE INTERESTING IN NEW YORK????
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:07 pm
Well theres some luck here maybe we can have a HR and get back in this game
LAG
April 8th, 2012
3:08 pm
Thank you, Lucas Duda, for preserving the no-out situation.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:09 pm
We need to pitch hit for Jack Wilson and Diaz now
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
3:09 pm
Not to rub it in Mr. Wren ,but DLowe just went 7 innings in Cleveland and left wit a 4-2 lead.
Ralph
April 8th, 2012
3:10 pm
Freeman is the only guy in this lineup batting more than .200
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
3:10 pm
This team sucks
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:11 pm
Whats gonna be lame is if we do come back then all the “Happy go lucky” Braves fans will act like this comback was from design
Reality
April 8th, 2012
3:11 pm
Who else thinks the new social media Twitter thing is idiotic? #fsnbraves
4th place finish...bank on it
April 8th, 2012
3:11 pm
Got to love how during Spring Training….Minor Minor mows down a bunch of mostly Minor Leaguers and never will bees……..and Jason Heyward rips a bunch of last cuts to the Minor Leagues in the last few Spring Training….Freddie Freeman hits 6 homers in 3 days the last week of Spring Training…..however, against a Meta team many predicted to finish last…..they can’t do anything close to resembling replicating those results.
timbo2589
April 8th, 2012
3:11 pm
what has freddi g done to run his mouth. If the braves missing the playoffs(more than likely), he should join van gundy in the unemployment line.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
3:13 pm
Now Fredo can use the term “crooked number”. God help us.
LAG
April 8th, 2012
3:13 pm
With that SF, Jack Wilson has more RBIs than Brian McCann during this series.
Bravesfan79
April 8th, 2012
3:14 pm
Lets go constanza! At least its a game now…we gotta chance..
MR
April 8th, 2012
3:15 pm
Collapse? Oh yeah, that was just one aspect of the oil stain that has been growing larger by the year since Ted Turner sold the Braves to empty suits. I stopped giving money to the team in 2001 when it became clear to me that the team was going to let three hall of fame starters rot on the vine without a real WS threat. As of today’s dysfunctional ownership group, I expect nothing. They have proven to be even worse than AOL Time Warner. We have a GM that seems to be a blithering idiot, but a press savvy blithering idiot nontheless, and lastly a press corp in Atlanta that doesn’t know or care about anything but amateur football in Athens so no tough questions are asked and nobody catches heat for our professional baseball team transitioning itself into a third rate organization I’m increasingly having trouble finding on a cable or satellite programmer. This organization right now… this ownership group right now… reminds me of the second-class, backwards group that used to have Jim “Hey Vern” Varney as their red-necked mascot before Ted Turner got serious about running his club to win championships. This ownership group is a poor joke, their management is a joke, and I will never part with one dollar of my money to give to Liberty Media.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:16 pm
well too little too late
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
3:17 pm
Costanza is a tool
Ron in Vegas
April 8th, 2012
3:17 pm
I see that Bourn now has a hat trick for the day. What has happened to him since he came to our team?
Bravesfan79
April 8th, 2012
3:18 pm
Why use Medlen next? Its not a 1 run game. If you dont trust Durbin or Livan enough, why have them on the team? I have a feeling that Medlen will be the first bullpen arm burnt out this year.
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
3:18 pm
Goodbye ,Georgie Constanza .Chipper will be back tomorrow and you will be waived goodbye.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:19 pm
Neise got tired and had an outfield error other than that it still would be 7-0. How in the heck did we make Manny “Gascan” Ascosta look like Mariano Riveria
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:19 pm
Using Medlen here is MORONIC.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
3:19 pm
Bring back that white trasher Schafer.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
3:19 pm
Freddies seat is getting a bit hotter. Fire his ass. This team has not recoverd at all from the choke!
Jay Dubu
April 8th, 2012
3:19 pm
Heyward generated that last run with the stolen base, otherwise, he would not have scored.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
3:20 pm
Bourn got the McCloth virus!!!!!!!
Preston Hannitized
April 8th, 2012
3:21 pm
Constanza has managed to parlay a hot week or two into a sinecure with the cash poor Braves.
Reality
April 8th, 2012
3:21 pm
Why is Jose Can’t-stand-ya on the team?
Bill M.
April 8th, 2012
3:25 pm
Pitcher’s have a mindset that they have to pitch a shutout in order to win and it gets them in trouble. Pitching is not the problem. They need a makeover, starting with Fredi G., McCann, Bourn and J.J. Throw in their best player, Prado and something might happen. They are going nowhere with this bunch of clowns. The only way they can score if the other team makes an error.
LOB Braves
April 8th, 2012
3:25 pm
Van Gundy to manage the Braves. Can’t be any worse than stupid(FG).
Threadkiller
April 8th, 2012
3:25 pm
Look on the bright side..We’ve improved our run scoring each game!
Reality
April 8th, 2012
3:26 pm
‘Fredi’ and ‘fired’ are anagrams.
rugburn
April 8th, 2012
3:26 pm
@reality… i hate tweets on tv too. if we had good players on the bench, us idiots on here would question why they weren’t playing instead of the guys out there losing now.
Don Sutton's wine glass
April 8th, 2012
3:27 pm
I guess if the Braves finish in the cellar there will be more moves this off-season than last. If course Wren may say he still like the team make-up. It is going to get nasty very quickly this season. Fredi won’t have a say. May he can be Jeff Van Gundy’s assistant. The team has picked up just where they left off w/o missing a drum beat.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:29 pm
So now Meds is being spent for tomorrow. Super move.
LAG
April 8th, 2012
3:31 pm
Been some strange DPs today involving Prado and Wilson.
rugburn
April 8th, 2012
3:32 pm
it does seem like a “seamless transition” from last season to this season, doesn’t it? that ’s what happens when you keep a team together.
LAG
April 8th, 2012
3:34 pm
Good, Mac got that one out of the way. Now he can get back to hitting.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:34 pm
The rah-rahs will be arriving in 3….2….1…….
Bravesfan79
April 8th, 2012
3:35 pm
LETS GO BRAVES!
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:35 pm
I’m gonna be pissed if we lose 7-6
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
3:36 pm
Is it luck? or heart?
LAG
April 8th, 2012
3:36 pm
Rah-rahs?
Not everyone is so jaded as to not cheer when their team is actually showing signs of offensive life.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:37 pm
Its Luck because we dont even get the 4 run inning id Duda doesnt drop that ball
Jose Simpson
April 8th, 2012
3:37 pm
So bases loaded and McCann pops out but with nobody on down 7-4 in 8th he hits a solo homer ? That’s like throwing a glass of water on a forest fire…
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:37 pm
Well Acosta has reverted back to being Manny Ascosta
Ralph
April 8th, 2012
3:37 pm
Uggla looks just like he did this time last year
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:40 pm
5 runs from 3 hits
LAG
April 8th, 2012
3:42 pm
J-MAN – Five runs is pretty good in light of the last two days. Three hits is troubling no matter how you slice it.
jmo
April 8th, 2012
3:43 pm
At least Francisco can get the save now and I can get some Fantasy points.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:43 pm
well if Duda doesnt drop that ball its only 1 run for the Braves. Boy Duda is gonna get hurt out there in RF
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:45 pm
Pitch hit for Jack Wilson in the bottom of the inning
Brian "Boob" McCann
April 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
“Well we tried to comeback, but you gotta tip your cap to a World Class team like the Mets. One game doesn’t really matter, oh except for last season when one game did matter, but it doesn’t really matter. All the guys on our team are really nice and we are all friends so winning isn’t important, even though we are getting paid $83million to win.”
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:48 pm
Braves are inventing a new baseball phrase.
THE DOG DAYS OF APRIL.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
3:52 pm
Maybe since it’s Easter they can rise from the dead.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:53 pm
Nice approach Melky.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
Well get your Caps ready
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
Heyward is pathetic.
J-MAN
April 8th, 2012
3:56 pm
Another 1 bites the dust
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
April 8th, 2012
3:57 pm
Well our record is still perfect! Who is the best prospect this year. Chipper workeed out in 1990. Who we got this year with the first pick
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
3:57 pm
Solid command of last place.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
Pull the trigger Frank.
Team won’t play for this guy.
Let him join his buddy. Change the culture while we still have a season.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
The Astros are sportin wood just waiting for the Braves to hit H Town.
Preston Hannitized
April 8th, 2012
4:02 pm
When Jack Wilson has a bat in hand in the ninth, you know the Braves have sunk to a new low.
Reality
April 8th, 2012
4:04 pm
Everyone wants to fire Gonzalez, but no one really mentions Wren. He’s the one that decided not to get a bat this past offseason.
LAG
April 8th, 2012
4:04 pm
Off to Houston we go.
DOB tweeted, and Chip just reiterated, that this was our first opening-series sweep since ‘03. I looked up the box scores, and we looked pathetic against Montreal during that series as well.
Naturally, those first 3 games back in ‘03 ruined the whole season for us. Our offense sure was inept that entire year. /s
Anyway, I’m out, kids. See you again tomorrow.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
4:05 pm
Is Jack Wilson really worse than Tommy Gregg or Greg Norton?
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
4:06 pm
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count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
4:09 pm
Good year to be a parent of kids. Should be plenty of sparse crowds and lots of tickets all summer long.
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
4:11 pm
Look on the bright side at this pace Kimbrel will be well rested for the pennant drive in September.
Reality
April 8th, 2012
4:12 pm
Maybe the Braves can play like the September 2011 Braves all year, and increase ticket sells by marketing their games as a comedy routine, rather than as a serious sports team.
Cholula
April 8th, 2012
4:13 pm
Is Spring Training over yet? Oh, those games don’t count– someone tell FG ST is over.
How low can you go!
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
4:17 pm
Sweep! Now the team can get back to their phones and resume their Words with Friends games.
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
4:17 pm
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count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
4:21 pm
A bomb with the Yay! bomb.
Stick To Baseball And Worry About Your Braves.
April 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
Fredi Gonzalez u need to worry about your braves first and farmost,u are a baseball coach not a basketball. u need to get your sorry a** back out on the diamond and get some wins. are you a** might be fired and u can go and work for Orlando Magic.
joe
April 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
I’d say Fat Fredi would do well to worry about his own job…..
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
OK — thank you Mauchzalez. We’re really close.
We need more Beth. She’s the key.
Unbelievable.
Steve
April 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
Frank is a master;
At creating disaster:
The Braves can’t win;
and he signs has-beens;
Can he be put to pasture?
The A Bomb
April 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
Good news. Still only 1 game behind the Phils.
Mister Frisky
April 8th, 2012
4:45 pm
Tampa just bent over the Yanks for the 3rd straight day.That is a very nice team on a budget similar to ours.
Where is my bag
April 8th, 2012
4:46 pm
Is 0-162 possible? I guess the Brave’s record in spring training wasn’t a fluke.
Busch Leaguer
April 8th, 2012
4:51 pm
Last years excitement that turned to dread in the playoff chase has continued at the start of this season.The fans and the players will soon realize that a change will need to be made.And you can’t fire all 25 players ,so Fredi will be the first casualty.
The Braves and the Yankees are both 0 and 3 ,who is feeling more heat Fredi and Wren or Giradi and Cashman.At least the Yankee fans know that changes can be made to improve their roster ,the Braves will stand pat ,maybe change the manager but nothing that will add payroll and cut into profits.
Chop It Up All-star
April 8th, 2012
5:03 pm
It goes without saying, but this is the last start that the Braves needed after the collapse late last year. It’s early, so no panic, but if any team needed a blazing start it was the Braves and we the Braves fans.
count_schemula
April 8th, 2012
5:19 pm
Francona watch is on…
wisconsinbraveswin
April 8th, 2012
5:33 pm
why bring race in this non baseball issue Howard would be the same rather the coach is black or white,he want to win just as the same for the braves if that is possible, I myself do wish we had bobby back for at least one more year or someone that can coach baseball fg is not it at all,even though we wow one ws an had many years of wining season I for one would have love that than the one one we had in september,Ted where are you now LM is bull shi_ an everyone knows it we make the phiilly looks like world beater an they are not, ask the cardinals, enough said
Disgusted
April 8th, 2012
6:55 pm
In the NBA, you have to feed the egos of the top players.
Cannot blame Fredi for supporting the coach, but the NBA is different than any of the team sports. Its an individual star driven league and you have to kiss the better players’ tail to some degree.
I don’t see how coaches do it, unless you have the right players being an NBA coach is thankless.
cdog
April 8th, 2012
8:23 pm
the braves manager need to learn how to win baseball games instead of worrying about van gundy. he’s winning and gonzalez isn’t
Chad
April 8th, 2012
8:24 pm
Time to give Fredi his walking papers, I’m sure he can get a job with the Magic!
DDawg10
April 8th, 2012
11:15 pm
I have to agree with everyone else. You are no a very good baseball coach so please leave basketball alone and learn yo9ur job.
Ed Stone
April 8th, 2012
11:35 pm
Fredi’s comments were making sense until he brought up Majic Johnson. Does Fredi not remember Majic getting Paul Westhead fired? Doe your homework before you open your mouth.
Rodney
April 9th, 2012
4:28 am
I would appreciate you focusing on the Atlanta Braves who were just sweep by the Mets. The Magic will be ok with their situation. He that has his own house operating on the right track should be the one that’s talking.
Jay Dubu
April 9th, 2012
10:38 am
Fredi, fix the Braves and let the Magic’s management fix them.
You continue saying that September 2011 is over…make sure the the team knows it, as plays like it. What we have here, is the same thinkg we saw in September 2011, and there’s no silver lining.
Chipper and Huddy coming back may lend a brief spark, but this team, the lineup in particular just does not look that good.
Jay Dubu
April 9th, 2012
10:48 am
Disgusted, Braves mangers have been treating Chipper like this for the past, ah 10+ years. He’ll be hitting in the 3 hole when he comes back, and no one will question the move. Even with his injuries, he’s the best hitter on the roster though.
BravesFanSince '80
April 9th, 2012
7:25 pm
I am late to the party on this one but so far all Freddie has proved in Atlanta is the then Florida Marlins were correct in his firing…. All leaders need to take a stand…. If Van Gundy does not get respect it is a Gundy thing….. Freddie is fast losing my confidence and perhaps that of his players if we look at the team over the past 3 months of baseball spring training included…… We miss Bobby and all the Bobby haters take note Freddie got work to do or he needs to look for work!
TONY STROUD
April 10th, 2012
12:53 pm
Has anyone seen Terry Pendleton
Chuck
April 11th, 2012
3:22 pm
DOB You said Having a motorcycle was relazing,Tell that to Bobby Petrino!