Gonzalez backs friend Van Gundy in tiff with Dwight Howard

NEW YORK – Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez pulled no punches Saturday morning when a pregame discussion turned to the ongoing controversy between Orlando Magic star Dwight Howard and Magic coach Stan Van Gundy, a friend of Gonzalez since the two were Miami neighbors years ago.

Van Gundy said Thursday that Howard went to Magic ownership to ask that Van Gundy be fired, the latest episode in a relationship that seems to be approaching an untenable state. Gonzalez said he spoke to Van Gundy by phone Friday.

“I think the owner has to step up and sign Stan for a couple more years, unless Howard wants to take a pay cut and be the coach,” Gonzalez said to a handful of reporters in the visitor’s dugout Saturday morning at Citi Field.

Gonzalez said during his discussion with Van Gundy, the Braves manager told him that he wished more owners were ex-coaches or ex-players, like Magic Johnson, so they’d understand the dynamics of the player-coach relationship. He said Van Gundy told him that wasn’t possible because most former coaches and players weren’t rich enough to be team owners.

Then Gonzalez mused about how he might have responded to Howard.

“I know what I would have said if he’d have walked into my office if I was the owner: ‘Get your a** back on the court and play. We’ll let the guys coach; you play,’” Gonzalez said.

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Fredi Will Screw It Up Somehow

April 7th, 2012
10:22 pm

Oh OK, Fredi, so NOW you show some fire and badass, but when the ship was sinking last September, all we got was cliches and backrubs?

GTFOH

Stan

April 7th, 2012
10:23 pm

Fredi should focus on learning the game of baseball so he can make fewer management blunders. One of the worst managers in the league. He has no idea what he is doing.

BravesfaninWis

April 7th, 2012
10:38 pm

Shut the hell up Fredi and worry about doing your own job you idiot. You had one of the biggest collapses in baseball history last year because you over used your bullpen, didn’t know how to do little things to score some more runs, and everything else possible to blow one of the biggest WC leads in NL history to blow it.

You are damn lucky to still have your job, and that is only because your GM is just as stupid as you are in making decisions. I can’t wait for the day that I come on this website, MLB Trade Rumors, or any other baseball related site and see that Fredi Gonzalez and Frank Wren were fired by the Braves. Neither one of you deserve the position that you have.

Kyle

April 7th, 2012
10:38 pm

Fredi needs to go coach basketball so we can get a real manager in here to do something with this crap they want to call a team. Someone needs to call Lou Brown at NTB and see if he wants the job after he gets off the other line with the guy about some white walls.

C. Tampa Ironworse

April 7th, 2012
10:39 pm

The Master of Cap Tipping is friends with the Master of Panic… Go figure.

PMC

April 7th, 2012
10:50 pm

Yeah so after 2 terrible games to start the season who is going to stick up for Freddie and Frank.

iTiSi

April 7th, 2012
11:09 pm

Don’t know when I have read a more irrelevant article after a Braves loss. What does this have to do with baseball and who gives a “rats rump” about FG and his buddy?

Weef

April 7th, 2012
11:14 pm

Thanks to all previous posters, you took the words right out of my mouth !!
Freddi, get your house in order, then worry about basketball.

Weef

April 7th, 2012
11:16 pm

Guess what Ron Washington, Charlie Manuel, and Joe Girardi think of the Howard/Van Gundy spat??

NOTHING !!!! They have no idea its happening, they are worried about coaching their team !!!

lastmanstanding

April 7th, 2012
11:18 pm

told you losers you would miss Bobby…

Biff Pocoroba

April 7th, 2012
11:23 pm

Where are the people defending Wren for going out and getting a washed up Durbin last week? He is terrible and of course Fredi stuck him out there to lose the game today despite having a rested bullpen after the day off yesterday. Fredi needs to go and Wren should be right behind him. The team stunk it up in March and people said it was just spring training but now they look terrible in April and Heyward’s career is already over and McCann looks like he has lost it. Unless the Braves get about 50 shut outs, they won’t win 60 games this year.

Julio Fan

April 7th, 2012
11:25 pm

You know, I think the Braves might be better off with Ozzie than Fredi.

(Ozzie is that OTHER Bobby Cox managerial protege.)

Cholulu

April 7th, 2012
11:52 pm

McCann is not the Mac of old..please don’t give a big contract to him but trade for a power hitter and couple very good kids.

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iTiSi

April 8th, 2012
12:35 am

Wonder if any of the AJC sports guys will have the guts to check out what FG said after the game. He said so very intelligently, “the team that scores first usually wins the game”. Is that just another brilliant thought he had to impress the writers or is it really fact? Would be interesting to know. Of course, they will probably let him slide as usual.

beone

April 8th, 2012
12:38 am

Fredi needs to FOCUS on his job and improve his performance!

Mitchell

April 8th, 2012
1:10 am

I’m not really one to bash Fredi Gonzalez. My problem is primarily with the media in Atlanta.

I say that because last month I heard Mark Bowman report to Buck and Kincade on 680thefan that Fredi Gonzalez never had any faith in Scott Linebrink (safe to reveal now that he’s gone, of course) last year from day one.

Part of me then thinks upon hearing that, “Well why the hell did he let him pitch to Hunter Pence in the 13th inning with a runner in scoring position and Michael Martinez on deck?”

That move had been made twice already in the game, to walk Pence, and worked in our favor each time. The question(s) I think most people would ask is, “Was he basically throwing in the towel by choosing to have Linebrink pitch to Pence and not walk him to face Martinez or did that represent a mental lapse and if so can he really be counted on next time around to make the right calls in the critical moments of must win games at the end of the season or in October?”

Okay, so that’s a lot of questions and I know we’re just little old Atlanta and not a real sports town but you’d think one of them, Buck or Kincade, would have been inclined to at the very least to follow up with one or two tiny follow up queries.

Nope.

The real problem is where it comes from. Mark Bowman had the information but it doesn’t come out until after it would have been relevant. Just like last fall when he went on 790thefan to reveal that players came up to him in April expressing their dislike of Larry Parrish.

When do we hear about that? November.

Fredi Gonzalez may be an idiot but it’s the media that’s the problem.

Until the members of the sports media in this town feel it is to their advantage to call Frank Wren out for his BS, Fredi’s not on the hot seat and neither is Frank Wren.

In the meantime I’ll just keep writing these insanely long posts like some Bill Simmons wanna be.

I’m not trying to be like Bill Simmons. I can’t stand that guy actually.

He’s a gigantic douche. A rich, gigantic douche though now that I think about it.

Hmmm.

I’ll stop now.

Who Me?

April 8th, 2012
1:21 am

FG, you better pray those words don’t come back to bite you in the butt big boy. Didn’t your momma ever teach you to be a good listener and keep your yap shut??

Why don’t you step up to the plate and manage your own club with a little of that fire huh? This team is a ship without a rudder, going nowhere and fast.

Tighten things up sir, or you won’t be the captain of this ship for much longer.

Mitchell

April 8th, 2012
1:31 am

lastmanstanding

April 7th, 2012
11:18 pm

told you losers you would miss Bobby…

Wrong.

I’d rather have Fredi Gonzalez for the next five years than another day of Bobby Cox.

lastmanstanding

April 8th, 2012
1:43 am

well….. you are an idiot

Stan

April 8th, 2012
2:01 am

Mitchell is really dumb. Bobby had some management issue but Fredi is one of the worst managers in the league. He over-manages and keeps his team tight. One of the worst managers you will ever see.

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Bob

April 8th, 2012
3:26 am

DOB- love ya, but this doesn’t feel right.

Go Go Pilots

April 8th, 2012
3:32 am

Funny freddieGonzalez supports Van Gundy nice while team is like a anchor with out a ship A captaiin without a wheel..He worryed over a NBA coach was he worryed over him last season to Blow 10 game lead in 2011….and have chipper mouth run amok sounds like chipper same copy as in orlando Fire Jeff Van gundy..we could be 0-3 after sunday in last Mets in First do you see a team with a Coach who is sorta like Gonzalez but has a backbone are’s he just cow tips and Moo’s excuse.Frank Wren will never get called out this not Ny times are Newsday here Just AJC….70-92 season under freddi n wren will Pick Nose with Bobby cox in office!

J-MAN

April 8th, 2012
3:46 am

Patheic!!!!! How about somebody actually talk about the collapse and te fact that the Braves did NOTHING about it. They keep Fredi Gonzalez, they dont sign any free agents and they expect different results. But what makes me sick is that D.O.B., Mark Bradley or Jeff Schultz will not point this out instead there too busy being buddy buddy with Fredi Gonzalez, Frank Wren and Liberty Media. But Schultz and Bradley will attact the Atlanta Spirit Group (Which they should) but Liberty Media is making the same kind of moves and are praised for doing so. Thats the problem with Atlants sports, the beat writers and fans never criticize their teams (Especially the Braves) and just come to the games to hang out rather to cheer and BOO their teams. The Braves choked a 10 1/2 game lead and all that was said was “Tip you hat”. D.O.B. your my favorite writer by far but even you need to stop drinking the Fredi Gonzalez Kool-Aid, he is a awful manager and makes bad manageral moves all the time.

J-MAN

April 8th, 2012
4:01 am

What in the Hell does Stan Van Gundy and Dwight Howard have to do with the Braves???????????????????????????????????

DOB this coddling of Fredi Gonzalez by the Beat writers in Atlanta has gone too far. After 2 games of sub-standard baseball isnt the thing. Its the final Month and a half of last year……you know the complete choke of a 10 1/2 game lead, that allowed a team to come in and WIN the World Series. But the writes dont blame Fredi Gonzalez for his awful moves, his lack of intensity, and overall willingness to place blame on his team losing. Its always “Tip your hat” with this clown, but you writers cant point this out because your too “Buddy Buddy” with Gonzalez. Nobody has pointed the Collapse on him and it appears that you Atlanta writers go out of your way to keep the heat off of him.

DOB you are the most approachable writer and IMO the best beat writer but you have to be objectionable and take friendship out of the equation. Fredi Inherited a Play-off team that got better at first from improvement but regressed by the end of the year. Now this team looks like the September Braves from last year. Maybe we need to hire Bobby Cox back because he knew how to handle players, the media, and in game strategy. There was a reason that Fredi got fired in Miami and I dont think it was from Hanley Ramirez.

David O'Brien

April 8th, 2012
6:06 am

DOB- love ya, but this doesn’t feel right. — Bob

Thanks for the love.

I have no idea what doesn’t feel right to you — the 0-2 start? the lack of offense? Fredi’s comments about Van Gundy? all of the above? — but thanks.

David O'Brien

April 8th, 2012
6:11 am

What in the Hell does Stan Van Gundy and Dwight Howard have to do with the Braves??????????????????????????????????? — J-Man

Absolutely nothing. It’s just an unusual comment for the coach of another team to make publicly, therefore I wrote a very brief story about it. Nobody said you had to read it. You saw in the headline what it was about, and if you didn’t get it from there, you certainly could tell from the first paragraph that it was a story about the manager’s comments about the bizarre situation with the Magic, and not a story about the Braves team. So if you’re not interested, why would you keep reading?

Or are you upset That you spent 2-3 seconds reading the headline and 10 more seconds reading the first paragraph, and decided it was worth writing an angry comment reflecting your anger at the time wasted? Even if writing that comment took longer than reading the headline or the first paragraph?

dap01

April 8th, 2012
6:17 am

Dwight is getting stranger everyday. He is so confused. He is looking for self gratification and can find no one to suit him.

He is a jerk and he is proving it everyday. He hits people in the face and screams at the refs to call a foul.

Joey

April 8th, 2012
6:57 am

Where’s Steve? I was wanted to ask if the Braves lost to another “future Hall of Fame” pitcher again yesterday.

He said that’s why they lost Thursday – even though that particular “future Hall of Famer” only pitched 5 innings . . .

WTF

April 8th, 2012
6:59 am

iSiTi -
correct,

Mitchell –
Do you think anyone would read such a long post? Most commenters didn’t even seem to have read the entire story – such as it was. Keep it short and sweet – remember the ’skirt rule’ of writing.
The Braves –
too early for panic – right on time for worry.
DOB –
you are an able fellow and try hard to cover your beat. Too bad about your employer, though. As for the ’story’, who cares? It’s the NBA – ‘Nothing But A-holes’.
FIRE LIBERTY MEDIA!

Joey

April 8th, 2012
7:06 am

Who was it that was saying they had forgotten all about the history-making of last Sept? And everybody thought it was a horrible fluke?

Well, don’t watch now, cause the Braves are hitting exactly like they did that whole month. If we can pull out a win today, we’ll have about the same winning %, too.

Joey

April 8th, 2012
7:10 am

“So if you’re not interested, why would you keep reading?”
*************************************************
You tell em, DOB.

Rufio

April 8th, 2012
7:22 am

J-Man,

Man,DOB is just the objectionable meessenger……..this is his blog and he can write about anything he wishes. I for one appreciate the fact I can come here and read about the Braves and not have “Race” inserted every .127 columns. That columnist made me cancel my AJC subscription. Thanks DOB for writing about the Braves. Personally, I don’t get the song lyrics myself but……..I SKIP OVER IT ((another subtle hint J-Man)

Regarding Fredi G………..Personally, I think he needs to worry about his job and not his friends. He is a short term manager and I wish the Braves had gotten the other Cox Protege in KC. Perhaps, Shuerholtz will live up to his letter to the fans and fire Freddi and Frank and put Glavine in as GM and make a trade for Yost and Francouer.

C. Tampa Ironworse

April 8th, 2012
7:24 am

Oh boy. You guys have got DOB angry. I used to follow him on Twitter and I can tell you from that experience, people that question him get yelled at. So just red his posts, Tweets etc and enjoy reading about horrible music and shut up. He doesn’t care what you think.

clint

April 8th, 2012
7:33 am

Everyone loves you David, so chill. You made a mistake writing about something that is irrelevant and stupid. It’s OK—you are human and are entitled to that. Relax. Don’t get thin-skinned on us now.

BTW—several moinths ago you came out with a list of 20 movies you recommended. I wrote them down and the wife and I have been renting them one by one. We love ‘em! Never would have seen them at all if you hadn’t written about them. Thanks much.

Rufio

April 8th, 2012
7:34 am

WOW, I thought Freddi was stupid for commenting on non-Braves matters…………I just read about Ozzie Guillen admiring Fidel Castro. How stupid can he be? I guess Miami wil be the first to fire their Manager!

Never Too Early to Panic

April 8th, 2012
7:45 am

Leave it to the Braves to make the third game of the season one where it’s a must win. So far, this team has done NOTHING to show the fans that it is better than the team that ended last year so horribly.

This team better wake up and realize that they need to come out with a new attitude and the same swagger that the Braves of the 90’s had. They play not to lose instead of to win and this fan is tired of the same old routine.

Six games to start the season versus the Mets and Astros should have meant a record of at least 4-2 going into the home opener. Now, they will be lucky to be 3-3 and could possibly start 2-4 or 1-5.

If this team is going to be taken seriously in the East, today is a must win. The Braves need to show the fans that they will be a team worth following in 2012. But it will a whole lot more than what they’ve shown themselves to be capable of in the first two games.

jt

April 8th, 2012
7:49 am

This article just shows the stupidity of not only our glorious manager, but the people who write dumb ass articles about him.
Who Cares what Fredi says about anything? He is a short timer here at best, with the results he is putting on the field.

Jack

April 8th, 2012
7:51 am

Never was crazy about Bobby, but kinda wish he was back. Fredi ain’t the answer for sure.

braveshoo

April 8th, 2012
8:29 am

FG should worry about his own job. In my opinion, he should have been fired after last years collapse, and he has done nothing this year to change my mine. In two games, he has had a man on 3rd with less than 2 outs, and failed to get him home. Hell- just bunt him home and get a run, I dont care who is batting. You have a knucleball pitcher on the mound yesterday, and no attempts to even steal a base. The Braves have to be more aggesive to score runs, and FG looks scared to even come out of the dugout to argue a play at homeplate or at 1st that could have changed the game. My patience is also wearing thin with our GM. Dias is over the hill and should have been cut.Parraz and Durrango were both better. Constanza should be in AAA. Durbin was a waste of money. We had pitchers we sent down that were better, and the money should have been used on a hitter. Finally, look at the guys he has let go- both Francour and Melky are doing great, pobably because they have managers that make them get in shape and coaches that know how to coach them. Its time for the GM, the manager, and most of the coaches to go!

Chris

April 8th, 2012
8:33 am

So, we’re hard up for something to write about? A friend backs a buddy? This is earthshattering news? I didn’t waste my time with the article…the title tells you to not waste a second of your life on it,

Let's Go

April 8th, 2012
8:36 am

A lot of Fredi bashing as usual today. Probably the same folks that bashed Bobby Cox and will bash the next manager, you know the folks that sit at home with a 6 pack in front of the TV and think they could manage an MLB team.

jdl2

April 8th, 2012
8:40 am

Braves are 0-7 in their last seven and 9-20 since Sept 1 and Fredi’s got time to talk NBA?

AtlPanther

April 8th, 2012
8:47 am

DOB,

Why would you not treat these comments like you did those of
John Schuerholtz? Remeber, “heat of the moment?” Am I to reason that you think more of folks
here than you do Braves brass? Can’t have it both ways. I for one like great info like this piece, but it would nice if it were accompanied by an actual look at this team and how this team did nothing to improve itself in the offseason.

Jeff Van Gundy

April 8th, 2012
8:47 am

Poor DOB, had his feelings hurt by J-Man and decided to rant on how J Man didnt have to read this piece (of s$:’). Typical, ajc writer. They can dish it out but can’t take it. Consumers like J Man should criticize the lack of quality from this dreadful magazine.

Samantha

April 8th, 2012
8:52 am

Just Popped in to say Hi and wish everone Happy Easter. Go Braves.

Cee Jay

April 8th, 2012
9:10 am

Braves melted last fall….terrible spring…..0-2 vs Mets. Tell you what Freddi, how about the Braves hire Van Gundy because I believe you’re the mistake thats been made!!!!

vietnamvet

April 8th, 2012
9:11 am

Everyone has a right to his or her opinion. Everyone has a right to keep some of the opinions, to themselves. See FG.s opinion. That said: Here is mine; Fans do not go to basketball games to see a coach coach. The G in Orlando is going to follow the other G who was in Fla.

Jockich Ahn Smelley, II

April 8th, 2012
9:17 am

Goooo FREDI!!! It’ll look up for you soon…..Bobby Cox has a Hall of Fame roster for 14 years and wins ONE….ONE World Series….WHAT A JOKE!!! Give me Glavine, Maddux, and Smoltz and I can win ONE World Series, too!!!

NewYork1

April 8th, 2012
9:18 am

lets get Francona

Chris

April 8th, 2012
9:26 am

“I’d rather have Fredi Gonzalez for the next five years than another day of Bobby Cox.” This guy’s closer to right than most want to believe. I lived in a market for many years that has many world championships and I can tell you that we would never worship a guy who managed 1 world championship over almost 2 decades with one of the best pitching staffs in baseball…..with or without a slew of division titles. Frankly, as a non-groupie of the Cox/Chipper/Mcann era I don’t understand the celebration that follows these times. It’s weird.

A Father

April 8th, 2012
9:31 am

Smoltz for Manager

Chipper for hitting coach and still on roster to play

Greg Maddox for GM job

Fire frank wren and Fredi

Jeva

April 8th, 2012
9:33 am

Freddie, Chipper, Frank Wren, and the entire organization are just representation of the city and state we live in. The city’s business affairs are slighted and the state of Georgia cut unemployment benefits for good people who are actively seeking employment while the same politicians collect thousands of dollars from lobbyist for free gifts, entertainment, and trips. The Braves are true representation of this good old boy network, the only winners are selfish, ungodly individuals who prey on people for self gain. So all you complainers stop and take a hard look at the circumstances first.Dwight Howard has a right to express his concerns, but the people of Georgia do not.

redneckbluedog

April 8th, 2012
9:43 am

Freddie likes Jeff so well, he should go back to Miami……neither one of them will ever win a championship….

Regina

April 8th, 2012
9:47 am

If Gonzalez showed as much fire with his own team, I would respect his comment. Until the Braves win THEIR first game……

Mingo

April 8th, 2012
9:57 am

Why don’t you spend more time on the Braves and your lack of management skills instead of wasting time on talking to the media about something that is irrelevant in terms of what you need to be doing. I know, lets hire Stan Van Gundy as Braves manager, sure cannot be any worse.

gadawgs

April 8th, 2012
10:08 am

Hey Fredi…why don’t you try worrying about your own team instead of someone else’s? Focus on winning some games and managing your team. Which I am beginning to wonder if you can!!

Tommy

April 8th, 2012
10:09 am

Didn’t Magic Johnson get Paul Westhead fired in a similar manner to what Howard is doing?

Earl of Williams

April 8th, 2012
10:12 am

Fire Fredi now. He is in WAY over his head.

parabrave

April 8th, 2012
10:16 am

Hey Fredi quit worrying about your friends jobs and worry about yours. Losing 2 to the mets is unacceptable.

parabrave

April 8th, 2012
10:20 am

A Father I agree we should’ve gone after Franconia as soon as he was let go. However I would let Eddie Perez have his chance and bring on Galaraga(sp) if EP couldn’t get it going.

tulsabravo

April 8th, 2012
10:23 am

Sid

April 8th, 2012
10:28 am

I have to agree with the majority of responses. Fredi, keep your eye on the ball.

Rafael

April 8th, 2012
10:29 am

NOT only TWO losses, now with Fredi’s nephew Matt Diaz and Jack “Julio Lugo Lite” Wilson in todays starting lineup… that’s TWO SURE OUTS.

Matt “rakes lefthanders you know.”

Sid

April 8th, 2012
10:31 am

Win today or cut his butt loose………………lol…….sorry, couldn’t resist.

Had enough

April 8th, 2012
10:32 am

I am sick and tired of jim powell making the braves into the 1927 yanks.This guy is a terrible replacement for pete and skip.At least with them you knew that they would call the game right and not slanted toward the braves are getting no calls crap.That jim powell does.Oh grandma giffen is a transvestite too.

steve brown

April 8th, 2012
10:41 am

Wonder what Dwight Howard would score on the Wunderlick Test-I am sure he is a real genius and can play, coach and be general manager all at once. The inmates are taking over the asylum.

64 year Braves fan

April 8th, 2012
10:42 am

Durbin & Hernandez are this year’s Linebrink & Sherril. Get everbody on the cheap including the
manager who is a joke. Averaging 1 run per game will keep the fans away.

Bob Rathbun's Hairpiece

April 8th, 2012
10:43 am

Fredi becomes more of a joke as each day passes. DOB has short man disease. Very short man disease.

spike

April 8th, 2012
10:45 am

I guess I don’t mind the story, but Fredi’s decision to comment on the irrelevant, and DOB’s peevishness about being questioned are both par for the course. I can’t believe any of you are actually surprised by either. I suppose it beats answering/asking a few probing questions about some very odd bullpen and PH decisions though.

Nice day though – who’s up for a motorcycle ride?

Mister Frisky

April 8th, 2012
11:07 am

Fredi knows nothing about baseball.Might as well give some NBA analysis,since he will soon be unemployed.Maybe they have room for another fat guy on TNT.

reality

April 8th, 2012
11:13 am

Someone mentioned earlier amazement at the Cox worship cult here in Atlanta. The reason is simple. Prior to the Cox era the Braves were horrible. Bobby (B manager) had the good fortune to manage some great A+ rosters to good B+ results. The natives were crazy for it. The Braves were relevant. Winning division championships became a supreme achievement – regular season champions! The fact that Bobby was a poor playoff coach was discounted. In a place that wont settle for B+/second place, this kind of performance is not acceptable. In Atlanta it is the golden era of Braves Baseball.

Now we have a C manager and a C- roster. And we are expecting A type results. Bobby could squeeze maybe 5 more wins out of this bunch

Say what you will about Bobby’s managing, but he was a genius to retire while his halo was so bright.

Bravesfan79

April 8th, 2012
11:13 am

This is just one article out of thousands (its seems) for the season. So who cares what the topic is! Dwight Howard is turning into a drama queen, and its sad to see one of the leagues classier guys turn into a heel.
That being said, i had a dream lastnight that Freddie got fired, and was replaced for the season with……. Bobby Cox. I thought it was a great move, at least in my sleep.

Superdave

April 8th, 2012
11:16 am

Bravesfan79

April 8th, 2012
11:16 am

Reaity: So i guess ud say the same thing about Joe Torree…. after all the Yankees didnt win a world series title there for many years towards his end, yet had a 200 million payroll.

Superdave

April 8th, 2012
11:19 am

Wow. Y’all are a lot of fair weather morons it looks like. You think just cuz Freddie knows what’s going on with his friends and some reporter asked about it it means it’s all he’s been focusing on? Absolutely not. 99% of the questions he answered the other day had to do with baseball. This one didn’t. So what? The guy has been Our manager for a year and had a pretty solid year at that last year. Yeah there was a bad collapse at the end, but it’s not like he was the one swinging the bats and throwing the pitches for the players. Y’all are very very dumb (most of you)

bobby

April 8th, 2012
11:20 am

What’s the over/under on the Braves winning 70 games this year?

tjhook

April 8th, 2012
11:25 am

DOB, the bloggers are right about the accountability issue. You should do a monthly review of the Braves’ performance. Look for consistency in offensive strategy and execution; afterwards the results should be presented to Gonzales and see how aware of those stats he is. People are critical of his performance because they don’t believe he has developed a versatile strategy or that the one he has lacks sophistication. Bobby was definitely on top of his options- even when people disagreed with them. We knew what the team would do and just waited on the result. Fredi is trying to be more diverse in his choices (which i like) but he does need to tighten up on the on base matchups and how to coax in more runs aka dictate to his batters more

Taylor Woote

April 8th, 2012
11:26 am

This Van Gundy-Howard thing is racial. Be sure if the Magic coach was black, Howard would be fine with it.

Taylor Woote

April 8th, 2012
11:28 am

And what in the heck is Livan Hernandez doing on the team. The dude cant hardly break 80 with his FB. He aint even a decent high school pitcher! Geez….this could be a long year.

tjhook

April 8th, 2012
11:34 am

SuperDave, fans are upset because the commentary is the most passionate we have seen Fredi since he became manager. Remember how cool he played it in September? Many people felt he should have dug into his players and dictated more during in-game strategy. Gonzales is a very nice guy but this roster needs some mentoring ASAP. And that’s including the veterans. Bobby valentine may be heavy-handed, but he has the juices flowing in Boston; the Braves need to work harder at trying to create runs during a game. They relax too much and that’s fredi’s area. Create some tension and see what happens

Rob M

April 8th, 2012
11:36 am

I still think the season is 162 games…….

I read this blog only to see what whiners are blabbing about after an 0-2 start. Get a life idiots…..

splendid splinter

April 8th, 2012
11:47 am

To paraphrase Rhett Butler (for those readers of Gone with the Wind) – these Braves fans don’t like Fredi Gonzalez, they don’t, they really don’t.

Bravesfan54

April 8th, 2012
11:51 am

Mitchell you are an idiot if you expect that any sportswriter can write what people tell him. Do you really think baseball people are generally talk to sportswriter during the season about what they really think. If a ballplayer has a relationship with people in the sport it is because they respect the difference between what is said in private and what is not.

Ryan

April 8th, 2012
11:52 am

Freddi see what Van Gundy says when your sorry ass gets fired. What the hell is Livan and Durbin doing on this team. Flande era in spring training 0.83 gets beat out by some over the hill guy with lifetime era over 5.oo. We always have to have a Proctor or Chavez to start a season.Since Remminger and Hammond that one year pan out we still think we will get lucky with these two that get released by Houston and Nats. Freddi Taco Bell needs you manage a store.

Threadkiller

April 8th, 2012
11:53 am

Braves win today, and Minor looks real good!

Larry

April 8th, 2012
11:59 am

“the Braves manager told him that he wished more owners were ex-coaches or ex-players.”

As a former two sport professional player, and subsequently a CEO of three different companies I built and sold, I can with some degree of experience that were I the owners of the Atlanta Braves, I’d fire Fredi Gonzales immediately for these comments.

I was blessed with a good right arm and good mind, mastering in bioengineering. However, the simple truth is the great majority of professional athletes are blesses with only the physical tool’s; most, in fact, falling grossly short of the mean IQ of the common man–baseball and basketball players among the most literate, frankly.

The reason Gonzalez would prefer more former players owners is he thinks they would understand his issues more, that they could relate to him. What he fails so ignorantly to consider is all the business and financial decisions coming from tremendous expertise to be profitable.

For him to suggest this is, in essence, saying you need to be like me so you can empathize or relate with me. Let me break it to you Fredi, I’ve heard you speak, and I’ve watched you coach, so if the owners of the Braves were at all like you, Fredi, they’d be bankrupt with days or weeks.

Keep trying to fill out a lineup card, Fredi–to date with the Braves, you can’t even manage this alone!

Nerdbucket Moylan

April 8th, 2012
12:05 pm

Fredi is a third base coach that got lucky. Send em back to waving runners in!

count_schemula

April 8th, 2012
12:09 pm

Here for Braves content. Not sure why I’m reading about the Orlando Magic.

smallmouth6

April 8th, 2012
12:20 pm

DOB: You are the man!

Can Of Corn

April 8th, 2012
12:20 pm

JOB CHANGE

Maybe Fredi and Stan should exchange jobs.

Even Stan could do a better job with the Braves.

Ward.... It Ain't Working!

April 8th, 2012
12:24 pm

Not sure Fredi needs to play Wilson to “keep the bench sharp” on day number 3 of the season. I would rather see the regulars “get sharp” before being concerned about “keeping the bench sharp.”

J-MAN

April 8th, 2012
12:26 pm

If you had apoll on whether Fredi Gonzalez should be fired over 70% would fire him

Charlie

April 8th, 2012
12:28 pm

Fredi should shut his mouth. He was at the helm for the biggest choke job in NL history. He’s got this years team contiuing that same style of play. His comments after every screw-up loss are nothing but positive player spins. Fredi talks pretty tough from the outside. When it’s his own garbage, it’s a different story. He’s a joke.

Cholulu

April 8th, 2012
12:29 pm

Whats todays line-up?

iTiSi

April 8th, 2012
12:30 pm

Come on DOB, you’re better than this. I would expect this from a “rookie” writer. This is totally irrelevant and pure garbage!

Nerdbucket Moylan

April 8th, 2012
12:31 pm

maybe we need three hitting coaches? Wonder if we will see a cox-like throw in the towel, sunday lineup

count_schemula

April 8th, 2012
12:32 pm

What will it take to make you forget about the collapse?

The collapse put the continuing downfall into perspective. League pennants, division winners, first round exits, wild card, more first round exits, then the wild card collapse. Now that there is no passion in ownership, the budget is tight and hamstrung with the gift of HR or K/fly out Dan Uggla to Fredi, and the games are slow watching paint dry affairs, I’m not sure what it will take to get me back into the fold. I’ve seen Larvell Blanks and Mike Lum play live, loved Pepe Frias for his name, been one fan on a night with 5,000 in attendance, but this is the first real crisis of fandom. I spend good money for good seats when Lincecum, Kershaw or Halladay come to town, but I did not watch one playoff or World Series game, almost quit my roto league, and barely followed any news this off season.

I have my tickets to Chipper’s last home game, the question is, will I attend a game before then?

So, I ask you, what will it take to get back behind this team?

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