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WaltCoogan
March 24th, 2012
8:15 pm
DOB, the second ACL surgery occurred in August 2010, not August 2008. Also, could you chart all six of Chipper’s knee surgeries (problem, type of surgery, which knee, and date)?
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
March 24th, 2012
8:17 pm
“It’s almost unimaginable, really,” Braves general manager Frank Wren said of the timing of the injury, just prior to the retirement news conference. “It’s a strange coincidence….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
REALLY? C’mon already, the Braves already knew this was coming before Chipper’s retirement announcement.
PapaDawg
March 24th, 2012
8:46 pm
Good grief Chipper retire now and give your spot to someone who will help the team.
Eddie Matthews' Ghost
March 24th, 2012
8:49 pm
I propose a trade. Trade the entire Atlanta Braves team to Seattle for the entire Seattle Mariners team. Then we both can start a whole new program of being upset with a bunch of losers. The Mariner fans have been disappointed since Junior and Randy and ARod left. If we changed teams with them, both of use could be unhappy new!!!
Keith
March 24th, 2012
8:51 pm
please trade for a solid LF and make Prado a super sub like Infante was. Prado can play 3B, LF and sub for 1B against tuff lefties.
larry30
March 24th, 2012
8:59 pm
I agree with you dawgdad. I’m tired of seeing posts on here blaming Liberty Media for our roster. Last year alone, Frank Wren paid almost $40 million to McLouth, Lowe, Chipper, and KK. And the only reason Jones had the year that he had last season was because of his injury in 2010 that forced him to do extensive off season conditioning. This year he was back to his regular off season regimen of hunting and fishing and hitting in the cages. And we paid $16 million to a .230 hitter who hit a bunch of solo homers. Payroll is not the problem. Getting our money’s worth with this GM is the problem. Wren consistently buys high and sells low. Last season the Tampa Rays and Diamondbacks both made the playoffs with combined payrolls about equal to the braves. Jones will not play 75% of the games this year. I will be surprised if he plays even 60%. Wren’s next move will be to sign McCann to a big long term contract that he will also look bad for at some point.
larry30
March 24th, 2012
9:04 pm
I like someone’s idea earlier about moving uggla to 3rd and giving 2nd base back to prado where he was an all-star. Uggla is certainly no defensive wizard at 2nd.
RoyU
March 24th, 2012
9:09 pm
Chipper’s most common statement this past month has been that he will listen to his body. For at least two years his body has been giving him many very clear messages and it is obvious that either his attention span is completely out of order or he’s been feeding us a line. The bad news after 2012 is that he wants to stay with the Braves in another capacity. I think we need people with a little more common sense!!!
old man
March 24th, 2012
9:16 pm
Does ANYONE on this board think Diaz should make the team?
gotigers72
March 24th, 2012
9:17 pm
Sheesh! Hinske and Diaz platooning in LF. Hinske is OK, but Diaz is done. Please get someone else to play left full time or platoon with Hinske.
old man
March 24th, 2012
9:18 pm
Sutton, Parazz, and Durango need to be on this team. Sutton should probably start at SS. If the three are not on the squad heading north, I’m gonna be pissed.
Trapper John
March 24th, 2012
9:22 pm
Not me old man. This team is like the trash dump that put in a recycling station. Same old trash.
wmfloyd43
March 24th, 2012
9:36 pm
I love Chipper, but I have to agree……… a year too late. I was actually hoping he was having a news conference announcing his retirement effective immediately in spring training.
Cecil34
March 24th, 2012
9:37 pm
heh, heh, heh, here we go!
2012, he we come, ready or not……insert, push play……
Fed Up Fan
March 24th, 2012
9:44 pm
Okay, who had knee and March 22nd in the Chipper injury pool?
ragnar danneskjold
March 24th, 2012
9:47 pm
What are Parraz and Durango hitting in Grapefruit League? They look to me as if they are ready now.
BravesfaninNashville
March 24th, 2012
9:48 pm
No doubt Chipper is a 1st Ballot HOF player.. Also no doubt he stayed in Atlanta when he could have made more money elsewhere. So many , many thanks from this fan to Chipper for all he has meant to the Braves… It’’s unfortunate it has come to this. I’m sure he was hoping to be able to go and help the team. It’s obvious he truly loves the Braves so it’s hard to call this selfish on his part. I want to believe he did what he thought in his heart was right. Hopefully he can play early in the season and stay healthy.. It is what it is there is no going back now..
Southpaw
March 24th, 2012
9:50 pm
Heal up Chipper and come back and have some fun. We appreciate all you have done for the organization.
wow, who saws this coming?
March 24th, 2012
10:46 pm
Okay, once again I’ll say this: Chip is a first ballot HOFer, no doubt. He is TOO OLD and TOO INJURY
PRONE to be counted on as a starter at one of the most important spots on the field for a team that has playoff ambitions. We’re better off defensively and offensively with Prado at third. Moving Martin back and forth only weakens his game, which further weakens the team in general.
I know Chip wants to finish strong, but face it…he is not the one that decides. Father Time is, and he has spoken.
wow, who saws this coming?
March 24th, 2012
10:47 pm
And why is Constanza not getting a shot a left with Prado at third? Has he had a bad spring? Was last year that much of an aberration?
mojo
March 24th, 2012
11:04 pm
Chipper was only going to be ready for 110 games at best. GDit Frank. You had to see this coming. We need a real GD left fielder not Hinske, Diaz or the Three Stooges. We had all offseason to prepare and we acted like the status quo was good enough. F good enough. Think big GDit. Atlanta is at its best when we think big. Figure it out and make it happen. Make us better now or move on.
JAFO
March 24th, 2012
11:11 pm
That’s bringnit mojo. “We think as currently structured…4th best record in aug…” How can you argue with that logic?
BB Fan
March 24th, 2012
11:36 pm
I love the Braves but they are their own worst enemy. They are still looking for an outfielder. Preferably one that can play defense and has power. They have been looking for one for 4 years now…since Andruw Jones left. I agreed with their decision not to match his 2 year, $36 million deal from the Dodgers, but since LA released him prior to 2009, he has been accepting less than $2.5 million a year. He would have been a great fit in each of the last 3 years and would have been a great fit for this season. It boggles my mind why they have not tried to sign him. He mashes lefties and plays a solid outfield and makes less than $2.5 million a year. That is exactly what they have been looking for and continue to look for. Now, they will probably have to make a trade for an outfielder. As great as Matt Diaz was for the Braves for 3 or 4 years, he was really bad last year. He’s a really nice guy, but just couldn’t hit. Hopefully that changes this year.
little girl blue
March 24th, 2012
11:50 pm
The simple fact is that Chipper could not even get though week one without a injury. It’s time he retires from playing. Chipper has meant a lot to this team and he still does but, he is not a player anymore and to win we need players who can get the job done. He should retire now and not burden the team with his 14 million as a non player.
tyger
March 25th, 2012
1:39 am
Save us both…
the embarassment of your public decline…
just call it a career, the money is guaranteed…
six knee operations is nothing to play with…
walk away now, while walking later is still an option.
Steve
March 25th, 2012
2:11 am
I would MUCH rather see JoeyT playing third with Prado in LF than having Prado and Hinske playing out there. They are ineffective most days at the plate and their defense gives pitchers nightmares.
Let’s give the kid a look. If not, please platoon Constanza/Durango with Parraz out there. I’m partial to Constanza making the cut over Durango because he not only came thru for us last year but he has a least double power in his bat .. Duranga can’t seem to hit the ball past the infield grass. I don’t mean out of the infield folks, I mean he can’t even get it to the dirt on the infield.
Either way, putting Diaz and Hinske in the OF provides very little lift on offense aside from the occasional dinger from Hinske and a .200 batting average. They give up more runs with limited range and skill than they create. At least the two speed guys can frustrate pitchers and their OBP’s are higher.
Fats Okelly
March 25th, 2012
2:29 am
Chipper is going to the HOF. It aint worth having someone wheel you into the ceremonies. Time to quit so you can still walk and play with your kids. Baseball can take a hike if I was Chipper.
Steve
March 25th, 2012
2:30 am
Oh, and to answer some other questions:
1) Slipping on wet grass during light running can be a major problem. I did it and jammed an arm into the ground causing a fractured elbow, in my teens. A guy I ran against in high school sprained his knee to the point he missed 3-4 weeks just trying to give it time to heal. The real questions is WHY are the Braves running that early in the morning. These are baseball players who never play a single game with morning dew on the ground. It’s beyond silly.
2) Anyone quoting baseball predictions from ESPN, Fox, or any other media network needs to hang it up. Stick to the prospectus and analytical sites. They are a far better predictor. Cases in point for 2011 … not a single expert out of about 30 on ESPN and Ken Rosenthal (who does the Fox picks) picked the DBack to win the West. Most also picked the White Sox to win the AL Central and the ones that didn’t picked the Twins. Almost 1/3 of the ESPN experts picked the Rockies to win it all .. and Ken Rosenthal is quoted with this on the DBacks “Below average in every aspect of the game.” … Oh .. and Rosenthal and 16 .. SIXTEEN .. of the ESPN exprts picked the Braves to win the East in 2011. Telling you folks, media personalities and former players are about as good as people on this blog at predicting the season (no offense). Stick with the computers .. they don’t let silly bias into the equation.
3) The Phillies will get far less out of Howard, Utley, and Polanco this year than the Braves will get out of Chipper. Everyone griped about Chipper last year, but only 5 full time 3rd baseman had more AB’s. Put more simply, if Chipper is the only injury we head into the season with we are doing well.
Now, after all that do I believe the Braves will make the playoffs … NO. Sadly.
As I have ranted about more than a dozen times recently .. the Braves fan-hating philosophy of having 10 MLB ready starters and one MLB starter quailty OF is beyond ridiculous. Everyone wonders why the Braves don’t draw well despite the two decade run and being at or near the top of the NL East .. simple .. we have an anemic offense. If everyone has as good of a year as we hope we are still about middle of the pack offensively. That does not put fans in the seats, and as we have seen, it also doesn’t win World Series .. no matter how good your pitching is.
The Braves are Broke
March 25th, 2012
2:39 am
To all those that wished that the Braves would had signed a big bat this off season the Braves are Broke they are barely getting by with the pay roll they have now. We need a Owner that cares more about the team than how many adult channels they have on Direct TV.
Weasel
March 25th, 2012
8:34 am
He’s done. Prado is better at third. Put him there. Keep him there. Let Freddie plan for a season without Chipper and the team will be better for it.
jerry
March 25th, 2012
8:48 am
A part timer with a .250 at best, little power, and no range is not a great loss.
Mr. Costanza
March 25th, 2012
9:38 am
Whats new?
Mr. Costanza
March 25th, 2012
9:38 am
SERENITY NOW!
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March 25th, 2012
10:27 am
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BravoBrado
March 25th, 2012
10:59 am
Why don’t we go ahead and pencil in Terdo @ 3rd. Let him cut his teeth a little early.
Fastball
March 25th, 2012
12:30 pm
Chipper Jones returns as player/manager.
Samantha
March 25th, 2012
12:36 pm
Good morning Everone, I do not understand why everyone is cutting down Chipper. Look what he has done for your team
Vern
March 25th, 2012
12:56 pm
Here we go…AGAIN!
Samantha
March 25th, 2012
1:01 pm
Where are we going? I guess to cut Chipper down again.
Sideline Dude
March 25th, 2012
1:40 pm
The season hasn’t even started & he’s already on the DL. Come on Chipper, enough is enough. You’ve been a hanger-on for the last ten years. Give us a break – go ahead & RETIRE already. It’s become more than old, it’s a joke.
Samantha
March 25th, 2012
2:09 pm
He should have some respect. Let him do it on his own terms . IF IT HAS BEEN 10 years where were you when he won the batting title?
GREED
March 25th, 2012
2:54 pm
Chip – pls remember you are a grown man playing a kid’s game 4 hrs a day 4 days per week that has paid you millions. (even when you sit on the bench with a sore thumb or toe ). We as fans have appreciated your abilities but now it is time to step down and let another man jump in the game.
OldTimer
March 25th, 2012
3:19 pm
The dude was doing steroids the whole time. That’s why he couldn’t stay married.
OldTimer
March 25th, 2012
3:21 pm
His penus shrunk.
Paul In Richmond
March 25th, 2012
3:24 pm
I am shocked! Who could have predicted that Chipper Jones might be injured this year? We all figured his past statistics would have carried this bunch to a WS. Even though he only plays part time.
Looks like the Braves had the same backup strategy as the Colts did for Manning. Difference is, Manning seldome got hurt.
bobby cerasuolo
March 25th, 2012
4:05 pm
i saw trade Prado Terdo and Delgado to the Angels for Mark Trumbo and Macier Izturis. Use Izturis at third and Trumbo in Lf.
BewdifulDogs
March 25th, 2012
6:20 pm
I agree with this comment
“Serenity NOW”
BewdifulDogs
March 25th, 2012
6:27 pm
Sideline Dude – you are living proof that some people deserve to be clients of Goldman Sachs
I haven’t seen many hangers on with 1.000+ OPS’ as recently as 2008 and an avergae OPS those 10 years just below 0.900… nice try but get the facts troll
ozzie
March 25th, 2012
6:56 pm
The day Wren listens to any player (especially one who is done) versus looking at the team with objective eyes is the day he should be canned.
Chipper has no vested interest in this team after 2012. He is a great player we don’t know if he is a great judge of talent or potential.
Bottom line Wren had no money and more severe looking handcuffs from Liberty than we have see ever so its doubtful Chipper hand any real sway with Wren. It was academic. Short of a steal of a trade for the Braves Prado and JJ were not going to net him the bounty he hoped.
The way they handled the offseason was reminiscent of the horror days of TW/AOL.
Anyway the point is moot. Wren should have traded Prado when he signed Uggla. He should have traded JJ two years ago etc.
But that is all arm chair QB stuff at this point.
Chipper needs to retire. Wren needs to decide if Fredi was in fact a mistake and hope that both Teheran and Delgado do much better in AAA than they did this spring.
One of them will be traded for a OF bat June and Jan 2013. You take that to the bank provided Liberty does not sell the team. If they do then I could see the Braves trying to keep both of them.
If they don’t then Wren will likely have to trade one of them and if the miss the playoffs Wren will also have to fire Fredi.
MitchC
March 25th, 2012
7:14 pm
Chipper has been a great player, and he will deserve to be in the Hall when his time comes, but, he’s just had far too many injuries throughout the latter stages of his career, to justify his salary on this always payroll conscious team.
I hope he can get back ASAP, and have a decent season, but, they say all good things must come to an end, and I think it will probably be appropriate timing when Chipper does retire at season;s end.
Skippy Dupre'
March 25th, 2012
8:10 pm
Call Damon and Matsui with $1 million. First one to take it plays LF for Bravos sometimes. Skippy say one will grab de money!
Skippy Dupre'
March 25th, 2012
8:12 pm
Chipper is Hall of Famer, but no walkies = no playtime. Skippy say Chip, go hunting. Take de boys. We love you, but we could use the money.
smallmouth6
March 25th, 2012
10:16 pm
Chipper, get well soon. Hope you have a great year and looking forward to you playing. Don’t pay attention to the losers on this board. About 80 percent of them.
Schultz
March 26th, 2012
1:08 am
QUIT ALREADY. IT AINT WORTH IT, BONES……………IT AINT WORTH IT.
Powder Blue
March 26th, 2012
1:46 am
Dang. The team doesn’t need to start the season with Chipper on the shelf. I hate it for him.
Braves third baseman Chipper Jones to retire « Ace of Braves
March 26th, 2012
3:53 am
[...] thereafter, came the news Chipper had once again injured his knee and will need to have his sixth surgery before the start of the year. He could miss up to a month of the [...]
TeheranTime
March 26th, 2012
5:43 am
I feel bad for Chipper. His last five years have been so hard for a great player.
No one's shocked by this news
March 26th, 2012
8:40 am
Just wrap him up with duct tape at this point. Let’s play ball!
iliketacos
March 26th, 2012
8:41 am
Well I hate to say “I told ya so”…..
Packer Ed
March 26th, 2012
9:20 am
This is a joke, like Frank Wren and Liberty Media.
Why would fans pay hard earned money to watch this?
Time to change back
March 26th, 2012
9:38 am
Enough already. Chipper meant a lot but hes got old tired bones. It does us no good at all to put him out there at 3rd base where balls can go past him when he plays. He has always said he will not stay with the Braves if he will hurt them, well he HAS hurt them. He does not play every day and we lose his bat when we need it the most. He needs to just retire and be a player manager of some sort. That way he can pinch hit at times but a younger more vibrant player can do the job on a day to day.
Lady Liberty
March 26th, 2012
9:42 am
That’s a lot of money to give an OLD MAN to warm the bench. Its a real shame players can’t go out when they are done. Chipper will hurt this team and with his money we can’t get anyone else. We are going no place this year. Again out in September.
urban redneck
March 26th, 2012
9:57 am
i hope larry has been keeping his punch card for knee surgeries. this one should have probably been on the house.
Slim Shaddy
March 26th, 2012
9:59 am
Left Field’s gonna suck if those part-timers rotate playing time. Go get a real LF Wren…
mike
March 26th, 2012
11:20 am
Jones is NOT going out on his own terms like Bradley, or Schultz or O’Brien stated. He is going out on his BODY’s terms. There is a difference. If he was going out on HIS terms he would have retired when he was still healthy and at the top of his game. He is neither of those now.
Like Mike said at 11:20
March 26th, 2012
11:23 am
Athlete’s don’t retire when they SHOULD, only when they MUST, because of 1 Money, 2 Ego, and 3 when their bodies tell them they have to.
Harvey's
March 26th, 2012
11:37 am
It’s all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
David O'Brien
March 26th, 2012
11:41 am
Jones is NOT going out on his own terms like Bradley, or Schultz or O’Brien stated. He is going out on his BODY’s terms. There is a difference. — mike
So we should have separated his body from his mind? (or soul?) when defining “his” own terms?
Sideline Dude
March 26th, 2012
12:38 pm
Maybe the doctors can talk him into going ahead & retiring. Over the hill doesn’t do the situation justice. Just a hanger-on. Give it up Chipper.
william in pasadena
March 26th, 2012
12:54 pm
Hello everyone. I’ve been absent for awhile. I hate to say it, but “I Told You Guys 2 Or 3 Years Ago”. Chipper should have been long gone. All this talk about loyalty. The Braves don’t owe Chipper anything. He was paid extremely well for mostly part-time work. Did he refund any money while he was on disability? You guys really slay me…blaming Liberty Media. Frank Wren has spent more than enough money to field a very good team. (Refer to Lowe, Kawakami, Chipper contracts). The problem with the Braves is they like to stockpile a lot of marginal players, instead of running with a couple of marquee players and role players. They don’t have a leader and they don’t play with any passion. This goes back to laid back Bobby Cox and laid back Chipper. The problem is NOT Liberty Media. The problem IS Frank Wren and Fredi Gonzalez. You fans buy all the BS they sell. By the way, Steve isn’t the only idiot on this blog.
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