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uga-brave
March 23rd, 2012
1:11 am
by the way the other jones’ boy #25 never hit less the 25 bombs for ten years in a row.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
March 23rd, 2012
1:12 am
Well, one thing is for sure now, if this team needed a kick in the pants to motivate them……Chippers impending retirement is the leg up they wanted
uga-brave
March 23rd, 2012
1:16 am
think about andruw’s numbers. go back and look at them. playing center frickin field.
name me one center fielder going forward that will hit 25 bombs a year for ten straight seasons.
haggard
March 23rd, 2012
1:16 am
BosnianBaller
Thank you.
I owned a copy of The Natural on VHS and now have it on DVD. However, I never tire of that sequence; nor of the scene where Glenn Close rises in the the stands, wearing a white dress and matching sun hat, shimmering in the late afternoon sun.
“Why did you stand up?, ” asks Hobbs.
“I didn’t want to see you fail”, she replies.
Great scene as well
noleee
March 23rd, 2012
1:21 am
I was a bid Druw fan too, but the only Braves player who even comes close to my luv for Chipper is Dale Murphy
uga-brave
March 23rd, 2012
1:21 am
never got the hate many of you gave andruw his last year here.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
March 23rd, 2012
1:21 am
Top five third basemen all time:
1. Mike Schmidt
2.George Brett
3.Eddie Matthews
4. Brooks Robinson
5. Chipper Jones
top five switch hitters all time:
1. Mickey Mantle
2. Pete Rose
3. Chipper Jones
4.Eddie Murray
5. Frankie Frisch
And last but not least….the ONLY switch hitter to hit .300 from both sides of the plate during the modern era (since the mound was lowered in 1969) : Chipper Jones.
There you have it. Chippers first ballot Hall of Fame resume.
p.s. dear Jeff Nelson, you are ignorant sir, donkey style ignorant
noleee
March 23rd, 2012
1:22 am
I think you rate Rose way too highly.
noleee
March 23rd, 2012
1:23 am
and Robinson too for that matter
uga-brave
March 23rd, 2012
1:23 am
2005, 51 dingers 128 rbi. 24 doubles.
noleee
March 23rd, 2012
1:26 am
Rose did one thing really well, rack up plate appearances. more than anybody else in history
kenhotlanta
March 23rd, 2012
1:30 am
Hey uga and haggard, good to see y’all. I am heading to bed, it’s been a long day. Have a good one, folks. You too, noleee.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
March 23rd, 2012
1:30 am
Not my ranking, it’s everybody’s ranking. Google top five switch hitters or top five third baseman and get back to me.
noleee
March 23rd, 2012
1:31 am
nite ken. night guys…
haggard
March 23rd, 2012
1:37 am
Night ken, night nolee, night Coach, night uga-brave, night John B……..oh, uga-brave–I though of you earlier this evening as I watched your ol’ buddy, Kyle Chandler, on the final episode of Friday Night Lights, season 5.
I never viewed s single episode of the series when it aired. However, I’ve now seen seasons 1, 4 and 5, (those were ranked highest) and I’ll have to say that was a unique, well written series in which your former runnin’ buddy did some excellent work.
uga-brave
March 23rd, 2012
1:38 am
haggard, cant help thinking about bisher under the huge Oak in augusta.
for those that dont know that bisher’s favorite place.
furman loved the master’s.
noleee
March 23rd, 2012
1:41 am
the only two that you might get close to unanimous agreement with is Schmidt and Mantle. there are valid thoughts about moving the rest of them around in one slot or another. nobody can be proven right or wrong. I just fail to see how anybody can consider Rose a better hitter than Jones when Jones’ numbers are all higher, and greatly higher in most cases.
noleee
March 23rd, 2012
1:43 am
dang I pulled a hag. nite again guys
uga-brave
March 23rd, 2012
1:44 am
hagg,
got a hunch that munson, bisher , and grizzard might be sipping some dark liquor.
with catfish sleeping at their feet.
uga-brave
March 23rd, 2012
1:47 am
for those that are not southern catfish was Mr. lewis’ beloved dog.
Bradford
March 23rd, 2012
1:59 am
Just bought tickets for the season. Got to watch my favorite player one last year.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
March 23rd, 2012
2:10 am
If Pete Rose hadn’t been banned from Cooperstown nobody would argue over his greatness. So, it’s not about the numbers. There is a growing hatred for the man among many baseball fans, which has influenced opinions negatively, and it’s unfair.
Bias is wrong, period. so lets look at the numbers ONE MORE TIME.
Pete Rose 4,256 hits (3081 were from the left side alone)
Eddie Murray 3,255 hits
Frankie Frisch 2,880 hits
Chipper Jones 2,615 hits
Mickey Mantle 2,415
Pete Rose had ELEVEN SEASONS where he had two hundred hits or more. ELEVEN for God sake. Want to know how many times Mantle, Murray and Chipper accomplished the same feat????
They didn’t, not even once. Frisch had three seasons of two hundred hits.
Pete Rose was arguably the most prolific hitter to ever play the game, and what people fail to take into account the the fact that Ty Cobb played the same length of time in the big leagues (24 years).
Now Cobb was by far the better pure hitter, the same can be said for Ted Williams. However, we are talking exclusively about switch hitters which neither of these two great Hall of Fame ball players were.
That said, Ty Cobb had 2,800 fewer plate appearances. But again, he wasn’t a switch hitter. Which is why Pete Rose ranks among the greatest switch hitters in ML history and deservedly so.
Waffle House or Bust
March 23rd, 2012
3:02 am
cabravesfan – Francona will bring class and winning baseball back to Atlanta like Bobby did in 1991. Let the coaches all go that was under #6 including Fredi. Just kill it all off finally and start fresh. I think Francona would be a nice fit here and get more out of the players than Fredi. Too much of a comfort zone now and we actually have decent players. They just need to be pushed to succeed instead of the pat on the back Fredi gives them when failing.
Ward
March 23rd, 2012
3:51 am
Hello everyone! It’s going to be sad to see Chipper go.He meant,so much to the team.One of the Only switch hitters with a career batting average over .300, 454 cereer home runs. Some thing around that mark.Team player,and a Mets killer of dreams.So many walk off wins,and Mets suffering momments. A legend,and a hero to most beloved Braves Fans. A classy guy with a true heart for the game.Played it the way baseball should be played.HOF,and this ones for you Chipper. A favorite player of mine,and hope you go out with class,and style. Thanks Chipper for your team commitment,and Thanks for Loyalty………..
The Closer: Mets Pitchers Catch a Break
March 23rd, 2012
3:52 am
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Ward
March 23rd, 2012
3:59 am
Waffle house or Bust- No Francona…….We don’t need Beer,and chicken in the club house,and a manager who lost control of his team,and quit……..
Ward
March 23rd, 2012
4:00 am
All have a good one! Talk tomorrow,and Peace my friends………
HRPufnstuf
March 23rd, 2012
4:33 am
Great guy, and used to be a good player. But with his record of injuries and time on the disabled list, he should have done this 2 or 3 years ago.
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March 23rd, 2012
5:11 am
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A-Ville Ranger
March 23rd, 2012
5:14 am
Todd Van Popple can bite it. I think it’s clear now we got the better end of that deal…but seriously folks. When Chipper retires what we feel will be as much about our lives as Chipper’s. He has been a part of 20 years of life’s course and I think most are like me and think of the things that have passed for each of us over these 20 years. He’ll be missed, the era in our lives will be missed.
ncgary
March 23rd, 2012
6:50 am
thanks for the well wishes richbrave
pretty sure i have it unless i fall flat on my face today.
had the direct satellite installer, but like chipper
i could still do it, but the grind
was a little too rough for an old man.
here’s hoping chipper and the braves win it all this year
Pinstriped Bible, A New York Yankees blog » Chipper Jones Set to Retire and the Yankees Lose a Nemesis
March 23rd, 2012
7:03 am
[...] Andruw. Now, in 2012—19 years after his major-league debut—Chipper Jones has announced that he will retire at the end of the 2012 season. At 39 years of age and with what has become a lengthy injury history, Jones’ announcement [...]
Loosing Managar = Loosing Record
March 23rd, 2012
7:04 am
I wish he would retrie 4 this session as well. He is holding the Braves back and is keeping a yuonger player from devlepment. Chipper is just being shelfish.
Ease
March 23rd, 2012
7:06 am
and is keeping a yuonger player from devlepment.
And that would be who exactly?
Ease
March 23rd, 2012
7:39 am
For all you bacon lovers out there…
BaconFest!
Trader Jack
March 23rd, 2012
7:43 am
Loosing Managar = Loosing Record
March 23rd, 2012
7:04 am
I wish he would retrie 4 this session as well. He is holding the Braves back and is keeping a yuonger player from devlepment. Chipper is just being shelfish.
So is Chipper a lobster or a crab?
Kat
March 23rd, 2012
7:46 am
After seeing the tickets I was eyeing for Chipper’s last regular season game in Pittsburgh sell between midnight-7am today.. I decided I should grab the next best seats. So I’ll be heading to Pittsburgh in October… only a 7-8hr drive not bad.
Tomahawkin
March 23rd, 2012
7:57 am
Question of the Morning:
How many All Star positional players, and pitchers (both starting and relieving) has Chipper played with alongside throughout his career???
I’m guessing 40-50???
Players ranging from Omar Infante (2010 All Star) all the way back to The mid 90’s when Justice and McGriff were All Stars
Boston Braves
March 23rd, 2012
8:01 am
Do you think Greg Walker is thinking…Oh no, there goes my gig!
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
8:17 am
“I’m seeing PRADO coming back into the infield full-time in 2013, and we finally get a LF’er with CHIPPER’s millions.”
– richbrave (from last night)
That would make the most sense, but I wonder how Prado really stands with Wren? Wren seemed awfully willing to trade Prado early in the winter – and not for much, if the reports are accurate.
Prado may have a great season and that keeps him in Atlanta. But, right now, I’m not so sure.
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
8:19 am
“After seeing the tickets I was eyeing for Chipper’s last regular season game in Pittsburgh sell between midnight-7am today.. I decided I should grab the next best seats. ”
Provided Chipper isn’t injured and is playing.
richbrave
March 23rd, 2012
8:38 am
uga-brave
March 23rd, 2012
12:21 am
“……..the jones boys were always off limits for me.
chipper, well i remember hoss in 1999. lifting the braves that season. i was there that series when he hit five dingers in three games against the mets when bobby V. kept pitching to him.
valentine was grilled in the new york media.
that was the same season as dennis cook., and pat coralles getting into it about cook doctoring the ball……..”
Yeah, the one year DON BAYLOR was out hitting coach. Too bad it wasn’t a decade.
Tomahawkin
March 23rd, 2012
8:39 am
Jeff R…
Good ?
And What Happens after The Bourne Identity Leaves and Martini moves back to 3rd after this season???
That Prolly means that in 2013…2/3’s of or OF will have a Changeover…As a Matter of Fact our wholeside of our Leftside of both the IF And OF will have a Change over
I just hoope in 2013…The Cheap As Owners don’t go Cheap again and settle for having a Slop Platoon system in LF, we will need power from there in 2013…
Whitey
March 23rd, 2012
8:40 am
I loved watching Brooks Robinson play, but offensively he isn’t in the same league as Chipper Jones. Nobody could pick it in the field any better than Brooks, ever, but Chipper’s value to the Braves is his bat first and glove second. That’s the standard for most ballplayers, and I think putting Brooks ahead of Chipper on the all-time list overvalues his tremendous glove quite a bit.
Tomahawkin
March 23rd, 2012
8:41 am
@richbrave
“Yeah, the one year DON BAYLOR was out hitting coach. Too bad it wasn’t a decade.”
Co-Sign! I liked Clarence Jones as hitting coach as well….His Braves Squads were dangerous because they could both hit and run and were good at playing small ball when needed to (excluding the postseason)
Ok Gotta Head outside and do some work
Whitey
March 23rd, 2012
8:44 am
…and by the way, I also saw Mike Schmidt and George Brett play a lot. Schmidt struck out way too much for my taste and Brett wasn’t as good in the field as Chipper. I can’t think of anyone I’d rather have on the hot corner than Chipper for these past 19 years, but Brett probably comes the closest.
Ease
March 23rd, 2012
8:47 am
Wow, speaking of a polished lefty…
With Jamie Moyer, every outing matters. Well, his latest outing was outstanding: four perfect innings, striking out four. The Giants had a lot of starters in the lineup.
While he had that one really bad start in a minor league game, in nine innings of major league action Moyer has allowed a lone run. At 49, it looks like there’s a decent chance that he’ll make the Rockies’ rotation.
In other news, Moyer had pitched 141 major league games before the Rockies — entering their 20th season — even existed. He’s older than the entire regular starting rotation of that 1993 Rockies team is today. The only guy from the regular lineup older than him is Andres Galarraga.
Lemke’s Knuckler
March 23rd, 2012
8:49 am
You know Chipper won’t leave anything in the tank. After the last game, I bet they have to hospitalize the guy, Rocky style after the second Apollo fight. And don’t you think for a second this won’t motivate every player on this team to do more, the same way the players were motivated to win for Cox in 2010, and that team overachieved big time and went further than they had any business going.
Should be a very exciting season!!
old man
March 23rd, 2012
8:50 am
On a different topic, how does Parraz make this team? He should, and so should Durango. Diaz needs to go. Great guy, but he has been outperformed for a long time now.
Are we carrying 11 or 12 pitchers?
coldduck
March 23rd, 2012
8:57 am
good player but should have retired years ago. he’s only been a part time player the last 5 yrs
MFin04
March 23rd, 2012
9:00 am
“End of an Era”
Did they clear the title with WWE? Could be some copyright issues on that one…
Now we can only hope that Chipper retiring, doesn’t mean the Undertaker is retiring. Well…at least we can hope the STREAK doesn’t end…
Ease
March 23rd, 2012
9:04 am
he’s only been a part time player the last 5 yrs
He won a batting title as a “part time” player.
Next.
JoeBrave
March 23rd, 2012
9:08 am
Are ya kidding me
MFin04
March 23rd, 2012
9:10 am
“He won a batting title as a “part time” player.”
Well, partly true. One reason he did win the batting title was the amount of games he missed due to rest…but that year he was absolutely phenomenal putting the ball in play to get hits. It was one of the most enjoyable seasons to watch.
JoeBrave
March 23rd, 2012
9:10 am
Chipper has earned the respect and just due that he will and rightfully should receive!!
As far as The Twin Morons, Frankie and Frediot, those two need to be unemployed immediately!
dromio94
March 23rd, 2012
9:13 am
Though it will be lost in the avalanche of messages (mostly positive, with a few imbecile exceptions), this Atlanta Braves-fan-since-1966 just has to add his word of thanks and good luck to the exceptional Chipper Jones. So many memories … You won’t read this, Mr Jones, but one little kid here in France (he’s now 26), my son, member of two French national championship teams as a 15- and 17-year old, wore number 10. It was for you. Our home computer password is “cjones10″. That says it, man, and it just means “Thanks”. We’ll be at Turner next month, to see you.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2012
9:14 am
Are we talking the .254/.345/.427/.771 David Wright?
I mean, I’m sure he’s a good looking dude, but has been injured a lot the last few years and seems to be on the decline.
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
9:16 am
Tomahawkin…
Certainly, the Braves will have the extra cash to spend when the bigger contracts expire at the end of the season. I believe Wren will be willing to spend money to upgrade the outfield, for instance (unless he can do so through trades for talented, less expensive players).
Lemke’s Knuckler
March 23rd, 2012
9:21 am
In the 2nd half of last season, in 40 starts, Chipper hit .303 with 10 HR and 24 RB (.895 OPS). Not too shabby for an old man.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2012
9:21 am
In regards to Parraz and Durango. Parraz has been hitting the ball real well, and in the clutch I might add, but his defense has been lacking and has made numerous awkward defensive plays. Not sure if that is just the wind or if he isn’t that good of a defender.
In regards to Durango, I’d be nice to have the speed of Constanza or Durango off the bench for some late inning pinch hitting or pinch running. Always good to have a guy that can get a hit without having to get the ball out of the infield….not to mention the ability to steal a base and get into scoring position.
dromio94
March 23rd, 2012
9:21 am
Trader Jack, you mean LOSING. And watch those shellfish; looks like you’ve swallowed a bone.
DAP
March 23rd, 2012
9:26 am
coach Pete Rose had ELEVEN SEASONS where he had two hundred hits or more. ELEVEN for God sake. Want to know how many times Mantle, Murray and Chipper accomplished the same feat????
because chipper and murray were busy getting walked 80-100 times per season.
rose has more hits, but he also has something like 6,000 more ABs than chipper, and 3,000 more ABs than murray.
i dont have a problem with you ranking rise high. but, in my opinion rose is probably #5 in the top 5, if he’s in it.
Beth
March 23rd, 2012
9:27 am
Thank you, Chipper! It has been a pleasure watching you play over the years….from the early days when I thought that you were somewhat (albeit, justifiably) arrogant, to more recently as you have become one of the most respected and beloved statesmen of the game. I love to hear other players talk about how you watch and observe the details and nuances of the game…….and how you can give them a tip here and there, based on your observations and knowledge of hitting, that makes all the difference for them at the plate. I loved watching you sitting at Bobby’s side in the dugout, soaking up all of the knowledge and experience that he had to offer. I love how you have been a quiet leader for the Braves, always putting team before self, being vocal when necessary, but always letting your play on the field do the most talking. I love to hear that the Braves are your extended family, and to see the dedication and loyalty that you have demonstrated for the organization in all of your actions.
I know that it is time, but I am so sad to think about life without #10 at third base for the Braves! I’m a lifelong Braves fan (from way back in the days when Darrell Evans, Jerry Royster, & Bob Horner manned 3rd) and I honestly cannot name a more consistent or valued presence in the Braves clubhouse than you (well, maybe with the exception of Bobby Cox!).
I will look forward to all of the recognition and honors that you will receive this season, and I send my best wishes for a successful, healthy last ride!
Couch Tater
March 23rd, 2012
9:27 am
Hard for me to compare Chipper and Schmidt. The Astroturf of Veterans Stadium would most likely have contributed to Chipper’s Knee problems for an earlier exit.
Also, The Turner Field power alleys (380,390) Veteran’s Stadium (371).
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
9:28 am
Rose led off, too, and wasn’t plagued by injuries like Chipper was later in his career.
mrs frank wren
March 23rd, 2012
9:30 am
He retired 5 years ago…. Next year, he comes off the Braves player salaries list…
DAP
March 23rd, 2012
9:30 am
jeff r Wren seemed awfully willing to trade Prado early in the winter – and not for much, if the reports are accurate.
except wren wasnt willing enough to actually trade him. hes still here. i think that fact shows maybe wren wasnt so willing after all.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2012
9:32 am
David Wright hasn’t been near the “.300/.380/.508/.887″ stat line in what…3 years?
Not to mention he used to be more of a .925 OPS guy…not the .825 OPS he has been lately
Danga
March 23rd, 2012
9:36 am
p.s. 28 year old ballplayers don’t decline, they peak. David Wright is likely to bounce back this year.
Wright’s 28 yo season was last year, so if the Met’s choose not to exercise their 2013 option then he’ll be hitting free agency at 30. I guess it all depends on what the market would bear for the dude. Citi field has undoubtedly been somewhat responsible for his apparent decline. He and Chipper are similar in the sense that most of their value is derived from the offensive part of their games. If he hits free agency, it’ll be interesting to see what kind of interest he can command.
Ease
March 23rd, 2012
9:42 am
Today’s lineup vs. NYM (1:05, 1230AM): Bourn 8 Prado 7 McCann 2 Uggla 4 Freeman 3 Sutton 5 Constanza 9 Simmons 6 Minor 1
Juan
March 23rd, 2012
9:45 am
No Chipper Again in line up?…..Does he retired already?
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
9:47 am
DAP… Good point. I would add, though, that was the rumored deals for Prado and Jurrjens leaked, Wren took a lot of flak in the media and fandom, which had to have some impact on his thinking.
But, yes, at the end of the day, Wren opted to keep Prado, which was the smart decision, IMO. Perhaps Prado returns to his earlier form this year and takes him out of consideration in any off-season deals.
Ease
March 23rd, 2012
9:49 am
McCann (or should that be McFann?) can finally breath a sigh of relief…
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves have re-assigned five players: Adam Russell, Christian Bethancourt, Ernesto Mejia, Joey Terdoslavich and Dusty Hughes.
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
9:49 am
“Move Prado back to 2nd base and slide Dan Uggla over to 3rd.”
– Coach
Uggla at third? He a pretty average second baseman. I don’t think he’d be much of a defensive third baseman. Prado is the better of the two defensively.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
March 23rd, 2012
9:56 am
Ease McCann (or should that be McFann?) can finally breath a sigh of relief…
Oh…I thought you were gonna say Fredi took an oath that he’d never bat BMac 3rd again…
But even still, you’re right—I mean, I still have a hard time with the pronunciation of Terdoslavich…
Murph
March 23rd, 2012
9:56 am
Could Uggla get the ball from 3rd to 1st? I don’t know… I don’t see him playing 3rd, although a Simmons/Prado double-play would be a beautiful sight.
I’d bet that, if Prado has a rebound season, he’ll take over at 3rd in 2013. That’ll leave a LF and a CF on the Braves’ offseason shopping list.
Unfortunately the team has been shopping for people to fill those same 2 positions for years. I doubt they’ll get anybody of much consequence to fill those holes.
Lew
March 23rd, 2012
9:57 am
When the Prado trade leaked? Wren doesn’t leak trades. I think a lot of the reporting was a bunch of wishful thinking on the part of lots of writers with nothing else to report and the acceptance was from fans who believe everything they read or really wished they COULD get Prtado or JJ for next to nothing – kind of like how the Red Sox were going to trade Ellsbury because he had an injured season and all the Braves fans wondered why we didn’t get him.
I keep telling y’all that listening to sites that have the woird Rumor in their name is just opening yourself to – well, rumors.
Tomahawkin
March 23rd, 2012
9:59 am
@Coach
I lusted for Wright after the 2010 season, but It has worn off a whole lot…The Dude is wayyy to injury prone to risk throwing 13-15 mil to…it would be like bring back Chipper again (no offense)…
DAP
March 23rd, 2012
10:00 am
coach Of course, the logical thing to do about third base for 2013 is……
Move Prado back to 2nd base and slide Dan Uggla over to 3rd
huh? why move two players? the logical thing would be to put prado at 3rd base.
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
10:00 am
“Could Uggla get the ball from 3rd to 1st? I don’t know…”
Murph, first things first. Could Uggla get TO the ball? Dan’s middle name isn’t “Range!”
Jeff in Tallahassee
March 23rd, 2012
10:02 am
Chipper is to the Atlanta Braves what George Brett was to the KC Royals. Similar playing styles, both NY killers, played the game hard. Somewhat similar stats, too. And Jones, like Brett, will have played his entire career with 1 franchise.
Murph
March 23rd, 2012
10:04 am
True Jeff… very true. But at least if Uggs was playing 3rd he could stand close to the line and only have to go to his left. That would at least clear up the mental aspect of moving to 3B. Leave all those balls hit towards the hole to Simmons to get, Uggla takes the balls hit right to him, and our defense wouldn’t really lose much compared to what it will be this year.
Hillbilly
March 23rd, 2012
10:10 am
So I’ve got the Braves down for 38 players left counting Hudson, Jack Wilson, and Moylan. Is this close?
Lew
March 23rd, 2012
10:10 am
Let’s see – We could move Prado to second, Uggla to third, McCann to left, Heyward to short and let Freeman catch.
Come on – Move Prado to third and go out and get an outfield with the money we will finally have to acquire players. Y’all’s idea of a straight line is like that kid in The Family Circus asked to call his brother to dinner and wanders the neighborhood to do what could have been done walking into the next room.
DAP
March 23rd, 2012
10:11 am
coach Pete Rose averaged 155 games played through the age of 42. He was an iron man. So holding all those at bats against Rose is half baked at best
i dont hold it against him. but 6000 PAs is alot. you are holding chipper’s power numbers against him. rose didnt walk as much as chipper, because he was hitting leadoff and didnt hit for much power. the only reason chipper doesnt have more hits, and doesnt have any 200 hit seasons, is because he was getting walked 80-100 times per season.
so, im not mad at rose for having so many ABs, but he has 6000 more than chipper! thats alot! in the mean time he hit for less average, less OBP and WAY less power.
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
10:14 am
Murph, I see the reasoning. I sure would prefer Prado at second, but Uggla has been pretty adamant about playing there, and all things considered, Prado is the better defender at third.
Prado ranges left better than Uggla and, these days, Chipper, and would certainly compliment Simmons. If Pastornicky gets the shortstop job, the Braves may need Prado’s range at third to compensate from Pastornicky’s defensive inadequacies.
DAP
March 23rd, 2012
10:14 am
i would think moving to third after only playing 2nd for a long time would be a huge adjustment. i dont really think thats a great idea. its not out of the question, but i wouldnt do it.
Murph
March 23rd, 2012
10:14 am
We could move Prado to second, Uggla to third, McCann to left, Heyward to short and let Freeman catch.
Horrible idea Lew. I mean… c’mon. McCann won’t even be on the team in 2013.
Chipper's 19 year old fan
March 23rd, 2012
10:18 am
I have enjoyed watching you play for many years. I will miss you deeply more than words can ever say.Chipper you will always be my FAVORITE PLAYER! Enjoy your final season & lets go win the world series. One day you will be in Cooperstown & the Braves will probably retire your famous # 10 ( that I will always wear) but until then I wish you a healthy season. Enjoy your kids & maybe they will be 3 generations of jones boys in MLB one day. But Braves fans all over would love for you to be a hitting coach one day! I love you Chipper. Hit a Homerun.
Lemke’s Knuckler
March 23rd, 2012
10:21 am
Chipper 2011 stats by game outcome…
In wins: .313/.358/.552/.910
In losses: .224/.326/.362/.688
Gives you an idea of how important Chipper was to the lineup in 2011. Hopefully, good seasons from Prado, McCann, Freeman and Uggla (and hopefully Heyward) will make that split obsolete this year.
Lew
March 23rd, 2012
10:21 am
Murph – Maybe so.
It’s always amazed me that people don’t think Uggla is good defensively at the position he’s played for years or Mac is a good defensive catcher at his position, yet feel they’d do just fine moving them to a position they have no familiarity with. Bound to make them better, isn’t it?
Maybe in Bizarro World.
Murph
March 23rd, 2012
10:21 am
Obviously I don’t think Uggla will get moved to 3B… that’s about as realistic as the team going out and finding 2 quality OF players with the free agent funds or through a trade.
Lew
March 23rd, 2012
10:22 am
And as much as I like Martin and am one of his biggest fans, he really wasn’t a great second baseman to begin with – adequate? Yeah. Solid? Maybe. But certainly not that remarkable defensively.
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
10:23 am
I like Prado at third, but I also like to the idea of Wren getting on the stick this year and seeing if he can secure a solid third base prospect. I’m not convinced that Terdo is the answer at third longer term.
Lew
March 23rd, 2012
10:24 am
Murph – Really? With 20-30 MIllion bucks? Paragon of optimism, you are Grasshopper.
David O'Brien
March 23rd, 2012
10:25 am
NEW BLOGGAGE
Jeff R
March 23rd, 2012
10:26 am
Lew, I’d agree with you about Prado. I do think he’s better than Uggla defensively, so Prado’s return to second would be an upgrade defensively, but Prado’s not a stand out defensive player. I’d say Prado is better than adequate, though. I’d say Uggla is adequate and Prado is near solid.
therut
March 23rd, 2012
10:30 am
Notice Chipper didn’t say he wanted to stay around a few more years so he could play for Freddie (the nutcase) G.
Netherlands Brave
March 23rd, 2012
11:46 am
Chipper we’re going to miss you. You have contributed to more wins than any other player in Braves history. Thanks for always being a Brave and thanks for setting the example by not using steriods. Have a great season, I’ll be flying back to the states at least twice this season to watch you play.
TPic
March 23rd, 2012
12:36 pm
I can’t help it. I still laugh everytime someone refers to Jones as ‘Hoss’. Mr. Clean Pants hasn’t played a full season in 9 years, which coincides with the last time he was known to have run out a ground ball.