Wren: Medlen in bullpen still the plan

LAKELAND, Fla. — Kris Medlen will start a minor league game Friday, and manager Fredi Gonzalez said the Braves haven’t ruled out  Medlen as an option for the fill-in role while Tim Hudson is out in April recovering from back surgery.

Medlen pitched four scoreless innings of one-hit ball Saturday against the Mets and has allowed just one run in 10 innings of three games (two starts) with seven strikeouts and one walk.

However, general manager Frank Wren reiterated that the Braves still plan to have Medlen in the bullpen this season and would choose between prospects Randall Delgado and Julio Teheran to be the fill-in starter in  April.

“That’s always been our plan because he sets up our bullpen very well,” Wren said of Medlen, who has pitched as both a starter and reliever in the past. “He makes our bullpen much better because of his versatility and because of his abilty to get both righties and lefties out better than most guys.”

Wren knows that some fans and others have pointed out Medlen’s value and said he belongs in the rotation.

“We think he’s a very valuable guy as well,” Wren said. “We’re not overlooking the  fact that he’s a valuable  guy. But with the way our club is structured, we think he’s more valuable to us in the bullpen because he can impact more games than as a starter. And we have a real good starting rotation. Especially once Huddy comes back, our starting rotation is deep.”

Hanson vs. Lannan

Tommy Hanson makes his second start (third if you count a one-inning rainout) on Wednesday when the Braves travel to Viera, Fla., to face Washington and left-handed John Lannan, who’s pitched well against Atlanta in the past.

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Mike S

March 20th, 2012
6:08 pm

As much as I’d love to see Meds in the rotation, at this point I agree with Wren and think he’s most valuable to us in the bullpen. Without him the pen is pretty bare after the big 3 when it comes to guys that have proven they can get ML hitters out in the late innings (Martinez has to a degree, but I like him still in the long role, which he seems to handle really well). Once Moylan comes back, or if Ascencio/Varvaro/Gearrin prove they can be consistent at the ML level, then I’d feel better about letting Meds start. But for now, they need him more in the bullpen, as it’d be too thin back there without him.

Mike S

March 20th, 2012
6:10 pm

Vizcaino going down really locked Medlen further into a BP role for now, IMO…

DaveinNEPA

March 20th, 2012
6:20 pm

Based on what I’ve seen of Jurrjens this spring, he’s no where near ready to face hitters in a game that counts. If management is that stubborn tthat they expect him to be the “ace” then their stubborness will be the downfall of the 2012 Braves. (Derek Lowe redux) If that is the case, IMO certain members of “management” might find themselves standing in an unemployment line someplace.

Right now, I’m debating whether or not I should spend the money for another year of the “extra innings package” to see the Braves games. The way they look now and today, I might decide to save myself $200.

MikeY

March 20th, 2012
6:28 pm

Roy Oswalt is available….

Liberty Cheapia Executives

March 20th, 2012
6:28 pm

Yee Hah!…..thanks to those Atlanta Braves tax write offs our bonuses just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Yee Hah!

By the way Braves fans*, buy up all those tickets quick. Then our bonuses will get even bigger.

(* suckers)

Braves-a-Go-Go

March 20th, 2012
6:34 pm

No middle reliever is as important as a reliable starter, and any member of Braves management who thinks otherwise deserves to be an “ex” member of management. Based on Spring training so far, Medlen is by far the most reliable-looking pitcher. I would even contend that he deserves to start on opening day. I could see putting him in the bullpen if we had at least 3 other ‘reliable’ starters. But so far only Minor and Beachy seem ready for the season. Get real, Fredi and Frank!!!!

extremus

March 20th, 2012
6:37 pm

There’s an interesting article over at IGN.com regarding team rankings overall and in various categories in MLB ‘12: The Show that everyone may wish to check out. Here’s the link:

http://www.ign.com/wikis/mlb-12-the-show/Major_League_Team_Rankings

The Braves get a nice mark at #4 for pitching, but their defense (#22) and team speed (#24) are obvious sore spots. They are rated 16th on power and 14th on batting contact.

Now, I understand that we’re talking about a videogame here, but I’ve played this series and can tell you honestly that most of the time the development team is surprisingly accurate. And in only a single category are the Braves rated above #14, which frankly seems like an accurate assessment of the product we have on the field these days. The 1990s, this is definitely not.

I think two things Braves fans regret the most are A) the purchase of the team by Liberty Media and B) the departure of Stan Kasten to the Nationals, where he’s built them up just as he and John Scheurholz did in the early ’90s. We lost a VERY good evaluator of talent there, and it really stings that a rival NL East team is the beneficiary.

Bottom line: it’s abundantly clear the Braves are no longer anywhere close to MLB’s “model organization”. Whereas a focus on pitching and defense (with a nice addition of speed and power) saw the Braves to winning 14 straight divisional championships and one World Series title, these Braves seem content to hope their single strength (pitching) can maybe help them get a Wild Card; in fact they’ve actually put up a banner up a banner commemorating the Wild Card entry two seasons ago if I recall correctly. Folks, we went through a lot of heartbreak during the ’90s/2000s but honestly we didn’t know how good we had it then. So many things HAVE TO change around this team and its broken-down philosophy for the Atlanta Braves to ever be truly relevant again.

extremus

March 20th, 2012
6:39 pm

Sorry for the couple of typos/repeated words in my last post; I was typing too fast and didn’t notice before submiiting.

TennBravesFan

March 20th, 2012
6:57 pm

Oswalt please.

Freddie Freeman

March 20th, 2012
7:08 pm

Extremus, you are being extreme. We have a WS team on our hands, and I’ll be surprised if we don’t win the NL East in the process. The pitching is nothing short of incredibly deep, and the batteing order looks outstanding– ASSUMING that they stay healthy– and if they don’t, we have the currency- in top shelf pitching talent– to get a major bat- or two.
Heyward, Uggla, Freeman, Mac, Chipper, Prado can all flat rake. Bourn is very good too. SS — if Simmons, which I expect- will be no black hole either. Excellent defense, speed, and he can hit okay. Best bullpen in the majors. That alone is worth TONS of wins.

phil

March 20th, 2012
7:23 pm

Freddie Freeman – you’re nuts.

Note that Wren and FG aren’t on the same page. For once, i agree with FG.

phil

March 20th, 2012
7:24 pm

JJ is our ace.

Sure.

And Josh Smith is smart.

Moylan Prado

March 20th, 2012
7:25 pm

I don’t trust those rankings at all. They rank the Yankees #1 in pitching. They are better than last year but please.

Beauvighn

March 20th, 2012
7:26 pm

How can Medlen be more valuable in long relief than as a starter. In that roll, if he enters the game it will be because one of the starters got shelled and we are behind 7-0 in the 3rd. Medlen comes in and shuts them down and we lose 7-3…Yeah , I can see how valuable that would be. Wren and Freddi both have been in the sun too long or have spent toomuch time at Disney World to think Medlen doesnt belong in the rotation.

I would open the season with Medlen, Minor, Beachy, Hanson and JJ as the fill in until Huddy is ready. Send both of those young kids back up I-85 for a little seasoning.

Moylan Prado

March 20th, 2012
7:30 pm

Medlen will not only enter games when starters get shelled, that is Martinez’s job. We need Meds in the pen to pitch 6th, 7th, and maybe 8th innings to take pressure off the Big 3. With the loss of Vizcaino that makes Meds extremely important to the pen.

Greg

March 20th, 2012
7:40 pm

OK, Medlen will begin in relief. But what’s the line on him moving into the rotation before very long?

JNick

March 20th, 2012
7:45 pm

Wren’s comments make no sense – if you have a pitcher who can get both lefties and righties out, you use him as a starter, where he’s more likely to face BOTH lefty and righty hitters over the course of multiple innings. Also, coming off TJ surgery, you’d want to put him on a regular schedule – ask John Smoltz – therefore, starting. Worried about innings? No matter, Fredi never lets a starter go past 6 anyway (unless his name is Tim Hudson).

JNick

March 20th, 2012
7:53 pm

D Lowe W0 L1 0 ERA4.00 G3 GS2 IP9.0 H7 ER4

braveshoo

March 20th, 2012
8:11 pm

I agree with Extremus. The loss of Stan Kasten was the begining of the Braves losing first tier status. I hope it changes soon.

Larry

March 20th, 2012
8:32 pm

One can tell how far this team under Fruti has fallen when a guy (JJ) who has been hammered around like a slow pitch softball pitcher is considered your “ace” and projected opening day starter.

Going to be a long, hot summer, folks!

Larry

March 20th, 2012
8:35 pm

extremus and braveshoo,

I have to disagree in part.

The Braves should have realized Bobby Cox should have retired several years back and nabbed Joe Girardi when he told the Marlins to stick it. Instead, they hired his offspring.

Ralph

March 20th, 2012
8:45 pm

Frank Wren, i’ll bet you Roy Holliday would set up the Phillies bullpen very well also, maybe their GM will take a clue from you and put Roy in the pen.

bustersonly

March 20th, 2012
9:00 pm

I have heard ESPN several times talking about what a great bullpen the Braves have but I haven’t yet heard them talk about their great rotation.

barves

March 20th, 2012
9:27 pm

If the Braves start the year flat, playing .500 ball or worst while being healthy, what is the chance that Fredi Gonzalez is fired? I’d place it around 65% he’d be let go.

If they can’t pick it up going into the season and finish with 8-12 wins, i’d push it to 70%

DJ

March 20th, 2012
9:29 pm

By the way hes pitched this spring, maybe we should be talking about if JJ will make the starting rotation.

pcooa braves fan

March 20th, 2012
9:43 pm

The way I see it is if we keep Medlen in th pen then he’ll come in after the other team gets a couple run lead on us. The way our offense is, we won’t get the runs to catch up. I think the better option is let Med start so they don’t get that lead on us and we might stand a chance with the one or two runs we might get.

Who Me?

March 20th, 2012
9:44 pm

Say what you want but JJ hasn’t looked like JJ this year so far. maybe it’s the ST syndrome, maybe not. But OD is right around the corner and he’s not exactly making me feel all warm and fuzzy.

In fact this whole team right now gives me the willies….they act like they’re just going through the motions, with no motivation at all. Where does that come from? FG? Chipper? BMac? strange vibe…

Steve

March 20th, 2012
10:24 pm

Hello Frank!! You have 0 quality starters right now. I guess with Medlen in the bullpen at least we now he’ll get a lot of pitching in because these starters couldn’t make it until the 3rd inning.

ernisTbass

March 20th, 2012
10:25 pm

Oh yeah, wait till next year, pitchers and catchers report in 46 weeks

richbrave

March 20th, 2012
10:25 pm

Count me as an all-in guy for MEDS to be in the rotation until HUDDY’s return.

richbrave

March 20th, 2012
10:27 pm

DJ
March 20th, 2012
9:29 pm

By the way hes pitched this spring, maybe we should be talking about if JJ will make the starting rotation.

After today’s outing, I’m on board with that. We need effective starting pitching. MEDS is what we’ve got off this ST.

jimi

March 20th, 2012
10:31 pm

Dang we havn’t played a game that matters yet. Not one single game in the season so far. The headline reads Braves on the way out of contention. Lol…every other year the Braves tear it up in S.T. games. Then the season starts and we look like a 500 team. So what they seem to be out off whack, they are rite now. This team will be ok until Hudson comes back.. If i was in charge Chris Medlen would be in the line up in Tim spot.. But the office wants to premier a rookie pitcher this year to see how he does. They hope they can succeed because if they do . That gives the Braves leverage against not be able to pic up Hudsons last year or if Hanson an his agent Scott BorASS decide he worth more then we can afford. Thats a theory of mine, anyway..Lets give these guys the benefit of the doubt.. So lets give them some good stuff to read about always negative. Go Braves you can do it…

Stinger

March 20th, 2012
10:36 pm

Wren, why don’t you let Freddie decide who plays where and when…you just work on that 3 year extension for chipper..

JNick

March 20th, 2012
10:42 pm

Hanson still has 2 years until he’s a FA. J-Jurrjens is a FA after 2012 – but he has Borass as well.

john cocktosen

March 20th, 2012
10:57 pm

this seems like pre-moneyball thinking: doesn’t matter how a guy performs as long as he looks good on paper. Wren would have put Maddux in long relief to make room for JoJo Reyes.

Anyone else remember Jim Leyland raving over Medlin after he pitched a beauty against the Tigers before he had TJ surgery? I’m sure Leyland was happy watching his guys pound our top prospects instead of having to face Medlin, spring training or not.

But I give Wren the benefit of the doubt when it comes to pitching. I’ll just go and get my Kawakami jersey ready for opening day!

JAFO

March 20th, 2012
11:01 pm

Good God don’t let fred decide anything.

bruce

March 20th, 2012
11:24 pm

glad Medlen is getting start even though in minors game to keep getting ready…

Largo

March 20th, 2012
11:50 pm

Wren’s reason for his questionable moves is always the same, “with the way our team is structured, we think. . .”

Tree rollins

March 21st, 2012
12:07 am

Why the hell did we dump Derek Lowe yet keep paying him when we know we don’t have Tim Hudson to start the season? No wonder we can’t afford any free agents. Meanwhile, who thinks Jason Heyward’s going to hit over .240 this year (think again)!

Tree rollins

March 21st, 2012
12:09 am

I never thought I’d be beggin’ to get Pendleton back as our hitting coach again – a team .250 batting average never looked so good to me!!

JAFO

March 21st, 2012
12:10 am

Dead on Largo. Great catch. It’s always the same circle speak of emtpiness. The way this team is structured DID NOT make the playoffs and suffered an unfathomable collapse. Don’t think, DO.

Tree rollins

March 21st, 2012
12:12 am

We’re paying Chipper Jones and Derek Lowe a combined $20M this season! Who likes the job Frank Wren’s doing??

Tree rollins

March 21st, 2012
12:15 am

Wish the Braves would bring Leo back as pitching coach – not because I like him as a coach. I just can’t stand him as a broadcaster!

the truth...

March 21st, 2012
12:42 am

This stupid decision is absurd, at least to start the season….

Another downside to Fredi in the dugout….he isn’t strong enough to make the decision over the GM, Wren….

Cox for all his flaws would make the decision if he disagreed with Wre…..Fredi has no such balls…..

the truth...

March 21st, 2012
12:45 am

On Leo………………..listen to him on 680 last year and he is such a Blow-hard, it was hard to stomach….

And don’t forget he had a bit of an advantage…………like Maddox, Smoltz, Glavine, Avery, Neagle, Millwood………….on and on….

If anyone thinks Leo Mazonne had anything to do with those dudes being successful you are nuts…..

Half the morons on this blog would have looked good as the “Pitching Coach” of that bunch…

JAFO

March 21st, 2012
1:10 am

Half the morons? ALL the morons. the truth. Great post.

59bulldawg

March 21st, 2012
2:20 am

Not so sure about Wren’s bullpen plans for Medlen! Hope he’s willing to bet his job on it!

Larry

March 21st, 2012
5:12 am

Out of 30 ML teams this spring, guess which team has the most losses at 13?

Of course, coupled with a 10-20 September, this is meaningless, right, you pork rind goobers?

Have another Schlitz to wash down those meat skins, bubba!

Eric

March 21st, 2012
7:59 am

In the BP yes he can help in more games but he still want help as much. 80 innings vs 180-200 innings now you tell me which one helps our team more. Medlen is a starter and deserves to be one. He has proven he is one of our top 5 starters. I do not care how many top prospects we supposedly have they have not out pitched Medlen and should not be “given” his spot.

joemoedee

March 21st, 2012
8:16 am

Medlen has always been projected to be a reliever, this is no shock.

SP is a clear strength for this team, as is the bullpen. The Phillies big three is unmatched by anyone, but beyond that and in the bullpen they have serious question marks. Their lineup is also not nearly as daunting as it was a few years ago. Washington is building up nicely, and if they can put it all together this year they should be considered contenders within the divison. Miami is either going to be superb or a dumpster fire.

In the end, the sky isn’t falling, and the Braves should be very competitive in the NL this year.

As far as the knocks on Mazzone, he was and is highly regarded as a pitching coach. But as with any coach or managerial position, the talent you have to work with dictates your success. Sure, Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz… hall of famers no matter who is the pitching coach, more than likely. You’d need to ask them what impact that he had on their careers. But if you want to see his ability, look more at John Burkett, Denny Neagle, Kevin Millwood, Chris Hammond, Damien Moss, etc.

FG is a good manager, but again, a manager is only as good as the talent he has to work with. Great managers do not win playoff games with average teams. Great teams can win it all with average managers. (eg, Charlie Manuel, Bob Brenly, etc) Someone mentioned Joe Girardi… he and FG had the same level of success with the Marlins. He moves to a team with a $200m payroll and wins championships. You can not compare his success in NY with FG’s success in Atlanta.

tp

March 21st, 2012
8:17 am

I’m not kidding when I ask this: Was Freddie in the room when Frank and his cronies “structured” this team for the 2012 season?

longtimefan

March 21st, 2012
8:37 am

This team could win 110 games and the WS and many of you fans would still post some critical remark. Why don’t we actually see how they play in the regular season when games count before saying how bad they suck. Do some of you guys actually want them to lose so you have something to complain about?

BLK09GT

March 21st, 2012
8:44 am

In my opinion as it stands now, Medlen should be our opening day starter. Teheran, Delgado are not ready and JJ is looking like our #5 starter, possibly DLowe of last year. With the results we have seen so far, I am beginning to doubt that his knee problems are behind him. He said in the interview himself that he was thinking to much about the leg and not about pitching. That leads me to believe there is still some discomfort there or the brace is distracting him from pitching to his potential.

Random

March 21st, 2012
8:54 am

DOB: “However, general manager Frank Wren reiterated that the Braves still plan to have Medlen in the bullpen this season and would choose between prospects Randall Delgado and Julio Teheran to be the fill-in starter in April.”

Yeah, right.

The much vaunted and highly scrutinized “roster battle” between Delgado and Teheran has so far amounted to nothing more than a slap fight with minimal hair pulling. Neiher has proven himself.

I suspect that the so-called competition between the the two to make the ML rotation is nothing more than the Braves’ machinations to get the most out of each during ST. The conclusion is already foregone — each will start April in Gwinnett.

A Father

March 21st, 2012
9:05 am

List of Atlanta Braves Weaknesses:

1) Wren
2) MGR. Gonzales
3) No outfielders
4) shortstop ( rookie has a chance to erase this )
5) second base ( the claw is unreliable )
6) third base ( first ballor hall of famer is unreliable for the whole season )
7) pitching starters ( a mess, weak and unhealthy group )

Strengths:
1) relief pitchers hope to have another quality year
2) catcher ( wear is starting to show, needs more days off to have something left )
3) first base ( really enjoy this kid, hope he has a great sophmore season )

bvillebaron

March 21st, 2012
9:08 am

DaveinNEPA:

I know JJ has struggles this spring and he is starting to concern me as well. However, when did Wren or anyone else in Braves’ managment ever say he was their “ace”. He was given the opening day nod only because Hudson will miss the first month.

Supes

March 21st, 2012
9:22 am

Should have traded Jair for a left fielder last year after the All Star Break, Jair’s value was at it’s all time high…now he’ll be lucky to get a bag of balls and rack of bats when he tries to deal him THIS year…This is all on WREN, he’s been hoarding pitching depth but here it is, creates a problem….since he won’t deal any of it.

The Talents of Medlen are being wasted in the pen…

Fed Up Fan

March 21st, 2012
9:25 am

Did anyone else think it was strange how Freddi let JJ just flap in the wind, in a meaningless game, after he fell down on the mound Tuesday?

urban redneck

March 21st, 2012
9:26 am

i agree with the general consensus for once. march 21st, gentlemen-mark it down. medlen is too good to be in long relief. we already have a great long reliever, and you don’t really need one that often. i assume they might move medlen to a starter when JJ or big red falls apart again if teheran isn’t ready. delgado looks good to go.

Jay Dubu

March 21st, 2012
9:39 am

Starting pitching looking below average this spring, and the team has NO bats!!! Could be a very, very, interesting year.

Mitchell

March 21st, 2012
9:49 am

barves

March 20th, 2012
9:27 pm

If the Braves start the year flat, playing .500 ball or worst while being healthy, what is the chance that Fredi Gonzalez is fired? I’d place it around 65% he’d be let go.

If they can’t pick it up going into the season and finish with 8-12 wins, i’d push it to 70%

Wow, you’ve got the wrong team my friend.

The percent chance of Fredi Gonzalez being “let go” from the Braves in October should this upcoming season end in a fashion at all similar to 2011, which it most likely will, is most certainly not 65%.

Nor is it 70.

It’s ZERO. Once again, ZERE-OH.

And in April?

Even if the Braves are sellers at the trade deadline, the chances of him being fired are still nil.

Jason Heyward was in diapers the last time a manager or coach of this team was properly fired mid-season or otherwise.

And not like, “We didn’t see eye to eye with Larry Parrish.”

Just plain fired.

Doesn’t happen. Won’t happen.

braveshoo

March 21st, 2012
9:55 am

Right now, if your goal is to win games, our best starting pitchers are in the following order: Minor, Medlen, Beachy, Hanson and JJ. Delgado and Tehran are not ready. By the allstar break, JJ should be traded, and our starters should be Hudson, Hanson, Beachy, Minor, and Delgado with Medlen back in the pen.You cant manage a team based on what you thought you would have on paper. You have to adjust based on who is performing, something I’m not sure Freddie can do.

Dawgdad (The Original)

March 21st, 2012
10:01 am

JJ should pitch out of the BP until he gets it together. Every year people on here provide good clues to Braves management about who should play, because bloggers prefer performance over contracts/plans/favoratism. The bloggers usually are right, but we get Loaf in left and Franceour in right, and Lowe on the mound because that is the way the team “is structured”. Management benches Constanza hitting .300 to play Heyward, who has more future than a career minor leaguer.

And what happens, the team struggles and eventually adopts what the bloggers knew all along, that Loaf was done, Franceour couldn’t make adjustments, Lowe was finished, Kawakami never should have been signed. We have to lose dozens of games going with the way the team “is structured” before performance raises its ugly head and management changes the lineup.

Lobosolo

March 21st, 2012
10:20 am

Armchair yak-a-doodles…. y’all love to weigh in with your brilliance that you’ve acquired from years on the couch in front of the tube, but not one of you can explain why, with such a broad depth of knowledge about hitting, pitching, and managing, none of you are leading a team to the World Series… Come on, Larry, Mitchell, phool, et.al. .. save the Braves!

Lobosolo

March 21st, 2012
10:22 am

or is whining in perpetuity your real strong suits….

reckingball

March 21st, 2012
11:07 am

I believe that the Braves are going to be alright this season.
Go Braves!

reckingball

March 21st, 2012
11:10 am

perpetuity, that’s one those nice high-dollar words, good job, fits perfectly.

Fire Frank Wren

March 21st, 2012
11:46 am

I’m seriously starting to wonder if Frank Wren isn’t getting paid under the table by other teams to purposely sabotage the Braves. 1st he decides that the way to improve a team that had one of the biggest failures in baseball history is to do absolutely nothing. NOTHING. And now with the team playing every bit as bad, possibly worse, than they did in that wretched September, and with 2 pitchers really struggling, while Medlen is one of our few bright spots, he decides to minimalize use of the guy who’s bringing it, so that we can send the others out even more to essentially pitch BP to the other team. Every decision Wren makes brings about 10 reasons for me NOT to go to Turner Field this year.

Supes

March 21st, 2012
11:58 am

Every decision Wren makes brings about 10 reasons for me NOT to go to Turner Field this year.

************************************

This, is the increasing way of thinking on the blogs & forums, I know it’s popular to “write the blog comments off as fodder” but when there’s smoke, fire is soon to follow…

John A.

March 21st, 2012
12:14 pm

The reason Wren wants Medlen in the Pen is because he doesn’t give enough runs. Only those who have an ERA of 5.00 or better are good enough for the starting rotation. Don’t believe me? Check it out!!!

C from Marietta

March 21st, 2012
12:29 pm

Starting pitching a mess? LOL. Now, I have heard everything.

John A.

March 21st, 2012
12:30 pm

Since Wren is running the dugout, why is Fredi there? If Frank is running the dugout now, was he running it in September too? NO WONDER WE LOST

Dawgdad (The Original)

March 21st, 2012
1:24 pm

Bullpen pitchers make less than starters. Is Medlen Arb eligible this year?

reckingball

March 21st, 2012
1:25 pm

I wonder how many people that say that they are not going to any more Braves games, actually go to Braves games, or have ever been to a Braves game?

STH

March 21st, 2012
1:49 pm

I WONDER how many zeroes this lineup has produced. 3 more ZEROES. Wake up.

SportsBrain

March 21st, 2012
2:03 pm

Nobody seems to have noticed that if Wren’s reasoning is correct, wouldn’t it make even MORE sense to put Medlen in the starting rotation and one of the projected starters in the ‘pen? Think it thru. For instance, so far, Meds has better numbers as a starter than Beachy. So why not put Beach in the ‘pen and let Meds start? Remember, you only need a long reliever if your starter falters early on – which is exactly what Beachy has been doing lately. And starting Medlen just increases the odds you won’t need a long reliever in the first place.

Random

March 21st, 2012
2:32 pm

DOB: “general manager Frank Wren reiterated that the Braves still plan to have Medlen in the bullpen this season and would choose between prospects Randall Delgado and Julio Teheran to be the fill-in starter in April”.

Yeah, right.

We’ll see.

If so, what happens to optionless Martinez/Ascencio? What happens to Rule 5 claimee Fish?

Will the Braves return Fish to the Angels rather than keep him on the ML roster?

Will the Braves expose either Martinez or Ascencio to a waiver claim when they try to send one of them down?

I (myself) think not.

Delgado and Teheran will both start the year in Gwinnett, freeing space on the ML roster for all three of Martinez/Ascencio/Fish.

Meden makes the two or three “spot” starts for Hudson from the bullpen, which is supposedly his “role” (spot starter/long relief).

When Hudson comes back, we’ll see what’s what at that time.

David O'Brien

March 21st, 2012
5:55 pm

Random, you really enjoy hearing yourself talk (or reading what you write), don’t you?

Mike Mangan

March 21st, 2012
7:35 pm

Opening day is just two weeks away.What do we know…The back of the bullpen is sound.Do we need one more starter…Take the Derek Lowe savings and sign Roy Ostwalt for a year as it’s clear Jurrens might need to start the season at Gwinette on the dl and rehab assignment.
Do we want Jordan P over Constanza and Durango?You betcha!!What about SS start Pastornicky with Simmons going to Pearl..Jack Wilson will be back as a veteran backup,The Outfield remains questionable with Heyward not coming along as fast as we thought,Bourne had way to many whiffs in the brief stint he was here last Fall.and Matt Diaz needs to go to an AL team where he can DH.Catching were good and I expect Freeman to start swinging the bat better once the season starts.We have way to many left hand hitters but do we roll the dice with Johnny Damon?
And last but not least Fredi needs to show a little fire on the bench.We would have won eight to ten more games with Bobby at the helm last year..Sooo lets start kickin butt and taking initials because names are just to long!!!!!

STH

March 21st, 2012
10:59 pm

I enjoy teams that pitch AND hit. We’ve got one covered.

Random

March 23rd, 2012
9:15 am

DOB (March 21st, 2012 5:55 pm): “you really enjoy hearing yourself talk (or reading what you write), don’t you?”

Who doesn’t?

You?

Don’t make us laugh.

Cheap shot, DOB, cheap shot.

And also egregiously misguided. I haver never made the top 10 (or 20 or 50) list of commenters here.

We’ll see what happens with Teheran and Delgado (and Martinez/Ascencio/Fish) when the Braves break camp. If I’m wrong, I won’t be going anywhere to hide or sulk — I’ll be happy to admit it at that time.

8)

PS: Kawakami will not be traded.

Samantha

March 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

Samantha

March 27th, 2012
8:44 am

Lets try here

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
10:42 am

You are so smart and I am so dumb. Sorry. Hello.

Samantha

March 27th, 2012
10:45 am

Maybe we can have some privacy. How are you today?

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
10:48 am

I am afraid that Jerk will figure it out now since I am so dumb. I m just here today. Not in a good place right now. Not so good of a weekend or Monday. Feeling a little dark. But that’s not important. How are you and what was real from yesterday?

Samantha

March 27th, 2012
10:55 am

I dont understand about yesterday or weekend. I just thought we could have some privacy here. Do you want move? I am the same as yesterday mentally,but much better physically. You were the only thing that was real. I can tell the difference. Jerk is stupid. brb

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
10:59 am

I think we can stay here for now. So tell me about the doctor and counseling. So I know I have it right.

Samantha

March 27th, 2012
11:12 am

The doctor said that I could go on regular food. Junk food in moderation. I can do exercises and run, but instead of 5 miles a day. He said go just 1 for now. He is concerned about breathing. If have any problems stop immediately and call ambulance. Im listening to him,but he is a jerk, The counselor showed me a short film on a couple in a relationship. They eventually got married and the sex got less frequent and the problems started. He eventually killed her.. For you and Crystal Im listening, but he is a jerk too. Neither 1wants to tell me what I want to hear.

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
11:31 am

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
11:32 am

Same one on both blogs. Just trying to throw a curve ball to jerk.

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
11:44 am

OK I’m back. Staff bugging again. Anyway. first the doctor. It is OK to run, but not dance? That makes no sense to me. What’s the differance. Don’t shake your head to much and dance. What is he thinking?

Now for the counselor. OMG, a film, REALLY! OMG. Can you ask for someone else or go somewhere else. That’s not what you need. You need to be talking about cycle of violence, power and control, warning signs etc. Your conselor should be encouraging and helpping problem solve. OMG!!!!

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
12:06 pm

Where did you go? Did I confuse you with the other blog post.

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
12:08 pm

All posts are me, really. Please come back.

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
12:24 pm

Samantha, please come back. I’m sorry. First I was to dumb and now I was to smart for my own good and I scared you away. It it really me, no jerk on here or the other blog yet. Trust me.

Samantha

March 27th, 2012
12:44 pm

I hope you qare having fun Jerk. Get a life and go bug someone that is real, Remember I do not EXIST.

New Mexico Lee

March 27th, 2012
1:13 pm

I’m here whenever you want to try again.

Samantha

March 27th, 2012
1:28 pm

I have to be guaranteed it is yiu and I dont think so. Bye

Samantha

March 27th, 2012
1:33 pm

There is a way,but you have not shown me yet

Samantha

March 27th, 2012
1:38 pm

Where is Hanna? Where is Crystal? Where is Sissy?

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