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noleee
March 13th, 2012
12:34 pm
hmm. Chipper came to ST 10 or so pounds less than usual, but this year he is fat all of a sudden?
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
12:36 pm
Who do the Braves lose to today? Er … I mean play today?
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
12:38 pm
I had a friend who used to say, “Fall behind early. That way, you’ve got plenty of time to catch up.”
If the Braves are truly playing as awfully as “people” seem to think, they’ve got time to fix it. Better than play well and collapse in September.
BravePack
March 13th, 2012
12:41 pm
Just because these guys aren’t hitting in ST doesn’t mean it will translate to the regular season. There are too many good players on this team, they may not look like it right now but it will get better…please believe me.
Lew
March 13th, 2012
12:41 pm
monty – NO, we didn’t make the playoffs. We missed by a single game. We must have been complete morons for being optimistic enough to believe the Braves could have won twelve games in September instead of ten.
Murph
March 13th, 2012
12:41 pm
abeee, you got that right… I’ll take last season in reverse… collapse now, then start April the way they ended August and all will be well.
Scot
March 13th, 2012
12:42 pm
Fredi needs to lock up the clubhouse frig to keep Chipper out.
George
March 13th, 2012
12:42 pm
RED SOX have recovered from thier colapse why can’t we?
Lew
March 13th, 2012
12:44 pm
George – No one has recovered from anything until they start to play the regular season and show what they’re made of.
As has been mentioned here once or twice over the past week – on Day One of the regular season, everyone’s record starts at 0-0.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
12:45 pm
And, what exactly is the problem?
Braves are built to win with pitching. Even if all the “ifs” end up as “yes’s”, Braves aren’t likely to score more than 4.5 runs per game. I’d say 4 runs per game would be loverly.
Questions on the pitching … so far …
Hudson … back … when will he back? will he be the same pitcher? better? worse?
Jurrjens … knee … did his nu shooz fix the problem? was his 2009 and first half of 2011 a fluke?
Hanson … shoulder, new delivery, concussion … will he be ready for opening day? will his shoulder blow up during the season?
Beachy … one year wonder? or legitimate ml pitcher?
Minor … can the polished college lefty be a legitimate starter in the ml?
Medlen … is his 13-3 (or whatever) record a fluke? how does this guy keep winning?
Delgado … is he really a top prospect?
Teheran … is he really a top prospect?
Vizcaino … how much longer will he put off TJ surgery?
Lowe … Cleveland doesn’t have a give-back program?
Kawakami … He’s not our problem either, right?
George
March 13th, 2012
12:45 pm
Lew:12:41
Think we had 8 wins in Sept.
George
March 13th, 2012
12:47 pm
Think the reason we still are in colapse mode is we still have same MGR. SOX have new leader.
Lew
March 13th, 2012
12:47 pm
No – we went 10-20
Ease
March 13th, 2012
12:49 pm
Wow, the Red Sox are doing better than the Braves in practice games. Holy Moly.
George
March 13th, 2012
12:50 pm
Let me look again thought we were 8-18.
Lew
March 13th, 2012
12:50 pm
Besides – had we won two more games we would have made the playoffs.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
12:51 pm
On the offense …
1. Bourn … doing OK so far
2. Prado … tearing it up
3. Chipper … filing retirement papers? will he play 20 games? will he play well despite the pain?
4. McCann … not hitting much in ST? is he done?
5. Uggla … doing OK, where’s the power?
6. Freeman … knee injury, a weak behind everyone, sophomore slump emerging?
7. Heyward … new swing, injury free? how long will it take to get his muscle memory fixed?
8. Pastornicky … yikes! no hitting, no defense (bring on Wilson or Simmons)
Bench
1. Diaz … yikes!
2. Hinske … at least he’s hitting for power
And there’s the biggest rub so far … where’s the power? Tigers hit more bombs in one inning of one game than Braves have hit extra base hits.
Wow
March 13th, 2012
12:51 pm
Ha! Like the Red Sox won’t do better than the Braves in the regular season also.
raleighbravefan
March 13th, 2012
12:52 pm
George – Yeah, Fredi can’t hit OR pitch worth a darn.
noleee
March 13th, 2012
12:52 pm
I do think that the collapse will take a toll to some extent this season.
bravesgrl4life
March 13th, 2012
12:53 pm
Anybody know anything about mlb app for Iphone and why I can’t get audio for today’s game right now? Also, not showing on the Braves site that there is going to be gameday availability. That stinks. How’s a girl to follow the game while at work without those???
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
12:53 pm
If the Rev doesn’t get right and Chipper retires, there’s no way Heyward goes to AAA. Braves couldn’t fix three holes at once.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
12:54 pm
nybody know anything about mlb app for Iphone and why I can’t get audio for today’s game right now?
The game is about 10 minutes from starting. No audio till the beginning of the broadcast.
bravesgrl4life
March 13th, 2012
12:54 pm
Okay, so maybe the audio will start when the game does, and looks like I can get gameday on my phone, too. Jeez
raleighbravefan
March 13th, 2012
12:55 pm
abeee – I’m NOT going to get into a political discussion. Let’s just say I was thinking of more recent history. End of comment on that subject.
noleee
March 13th, 2012
12:55 pm
there is no way Heyward goes to AAA no matter what happens
raleighbravefan
March 13th, 2012
12:58 pm
noleee – You’re probably right, but they did send McLouth down for a week (wouldda been longer, except for injuries).
George
March 13th, 2012
1:01 pm
Lew and I both wrong, baseball reference we were 9-18. ralighbravesfan the RED SOX are 6-2 this spring the MGR does make a difference. Also FREDI could not play well when he did play. In 6 minor league seasons he was a lifetime .197 hitter.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:01 pm
Let’s just say I was thinking of more recent history.
I figured as much, and I was just goosing you. Not trying to say anything political.
But I will post some lyrics …
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y’all
War, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
Ohhh, war, I despise
Because it means destruction
Of innocent lives
War means tears
To thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go to fight
And lose their lives
I said, war, huh
Good God, y’all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain’t nothing
But a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker
Ooooh, war
It’s an enemy to all mankind
The point of war blows my mind
War has caused unrest
Within the younger generation
Induction then destruction
Who wants to die
Aaaaah, war-huh
Good God y’all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it, say it, say it
War, huh
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again y’all
War, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain’t nothing but a heartbreaker
War, it’s got one friend
That’s the undertaker
Ooooh, war, has shattered
Many a young mans dreams
Made him disabled, bitter and mean
Life is much to short and precious
To spend fighting wars these days
War can’t give life
It can only take it away
Ooooh, war, huh
Good God y’all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain’t nothing but a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there’s got to be a better way
Ooooooh, war, huh
Good God y’all
What is it good for
You tell me
Say it, say it, say it, say it
War, huh
Good God y’all
What is it good for
Stand up and shout it
Nothing
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:03 pm
I do think that the collapse will take a toll to some extent this season.
Kind of like trying to play after an injury. Has it really healed? Will that part collapse unexpectedly (like it did when it was injured)?
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:05 pm
bg4 … I’ve got audio now.
Ease
March 13th, 2012
1:08 pm
The Braves need to turn it up a notch and win the Grapefruit League title…otherwise, this Spring Training will have been deemed a complete and utter failure. THAT is completely on mgmt and front office.
Tim
March 13th, 2012
1:08 pm
Freddi on probation FIRE HIS ASS.
Mixxo
March 13th, 2012
1:08 pm
Good start!
3 pitches…..one strikeout.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:08 pm
Bourn strikes out to start the game. Fish own us!
Runnin
March 13th, 2012
1:09 pm
We have a good history against Zambrano.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:10 pm
Prado rolls to third for the second out. Close play.
David O'Brien
March 13th, 2012
1:10 pm
Hanley made nice bare-hand play (probably didn’t need to, but it was impressive), catching Prado grounder near 3rd and throwing to 1st.
1-2-3 inning for Braves in 1st
Mixxo
March 13th, 2012
1:10 pm
We just need to get under Big Z’s skin……works every time.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:11 pm
McCann flies out softly. 3 up, 3 down.
George
March 13th, 2012
1:11 pm
Ease 1:08
We may have been mathmaticly elimiated already.
Monty
March 13th, 2012
1:11 pm
Lew
I never said anyone was a moron for thinking we could make the playoffs. Obviously if you had to bet you would have bet that they would. But my point was all the optimist(and I hesitate to even use that word because it doesn’t really take an optimist to believe that your team won’t win more than 10 games out of their last 30, but I used it so I’ll stick with it) thinking won’t help your team win and all the pessimistic thinking won’t hurt them. Personally, I believed we wouldn’t make the playoffs when Kimbrell blew the save against St. Louis, but that’s beside the point. People are right (in my view) to be concerned about this ST. I realize everyone starts even at the gun but to not be concerned now is IMO just like being unconcerned last Sept. Maybe we win big in April, we can hope for the best, but realistically I wouldn’t bet on it, not based upon ST, would you?
bravesgrl4life
March 13th, 2012
1:13 pm
Anybody else hoping for a Carlos Zambrano meltdown?
Duke
March 13th, 2012
1:14 pm
Sounds like we should just trade everyone and start over from what most on here have said. If you’re going to be negative now, then don’t jump on the bandwagon later in the actual season when we are in first place in the division. Patience fools
Lew
March 13th, 2012
1:16 pm
Monty – I don’t know, but I think I’ll take my chances that the Braves are better in a month then they are after their starting pitchers having pitched 8 innings (or less), their hitters hit more than 10-30 at bats and half their team being comprised of minor league players not likely to see the ML roster this year and not playing two games a day with half of their regular team playing in each.
Murph
March 13th, 2012
1:17 pm
Yeah, I mean, c’mon! Look around Braves fans! Same old problems, just a different month.
Example 1: starting pitchers can’t get past the 2nd or 3rd inning! It’s ridiculous! Fredi’s going to have an overworked pen by mid-May at this rate. C’mon!
Huh? What’s that? Starters… limited innings…
Oh.
Well, still… I mean… c’mon!
raleighbravefan
March 13th, 2012
1:17 pm
George – Let’s see….Red Sox have a better record in the first 10 games of ST than the Braves…Conclusion…Must be the manager…Yep, there are no other variables there, so it’s definitely Fredi.
David O'Brien
March 13th, 2012
1:18 pm
Minor struck out 1st two, then Pastornicky made nice play going to right, to knee, then throwing out Hanley at 1st
bravesgrl4life
March 13th, 2012
1:18 pm
good start on the defense and pitching at least. Now lets score in #2!!!
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:18 pm
Minor gets ‘em 1-2-3. Ramirez out on a grounder to short (The Rev). Low through to first is dug out.
beekay
March 13th, 2012
1:19 pm
I’m still giving it another 5-7 games before I start to panic
Mixxo
March 13th, 2012
1:20 pm
Duke -
Huh?
Being a 40+ year fan gives me the “right” to do WTF I want. If they suck, I’ll say they suck and you’ll deal with it.
raleighbravefan
March 13th, 2012
1:20 pm
abee – I didn’t mean to imply you were getting political…just wanted to be sure I didn’t after getting sucked in by beekay one day. Rules of the blog, you know. And that song is almost always appropriate.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:21 pm
Uggla strikes out looking.
DS1
March 13th, 2012
1:22 pm
Patience grasshoppers…………..
It’s still early…………
It’s a marathon, not a sprint………..
(just thought I’d add my 2 cents worth today)
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:22 pm
Freeman flies out deep to CF on the first pitch.
Powder Blue
March 13th, 2012
1:23 pm
I’ll never understand the Chipper-hate.
Arkansas Transplant
March 13th, 2012
1:23 pm
Bourn has looked really good this spring.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:23 pm
Diaz strikes out looking. another 1-2-3 inning.
David O'Brien
March 13th, 2012
1:24 pm
Texted with Chipper today, and he clarified that he didn’t mean the “I don’t know if I can make it through this year” comment literally. Said he’d never walk out on team during season, much less during spring training.
Duke
March 13th, 2012
1:24 pm
Mixxo-
Do what you want. It just makes you look like an idiot when you say the Braves suck through the first 12 or so games of “Spring TRAINING” and then when they are playing well in the season you take back your ignorant comments.
That’s what is wrong with our fans; some can only support them through the good times and then trash them when the going gets tough. Be a real fan and support them through it all.
DS1
March 13th, 2012
1:24 pm
Does being a Braves fan for 45 years give me the right to be an ass hole? Just curious….
ncscoots
March 13th, 2012
1:24 pm
Maybe we win big in April, we can hope for the best, but realistically I wouldn’t bet on it, not based upon ST, would you?
Ask me April 2. Anything sooner, and one would be relying on faulty data.
Not that such a thing stops anyone here, LOL. Me, I haven’t seen a single AB or pitch this spring, and I don’t know that anyone here has seen much more. I haven’t seen what players are working on, what they need to work on, or anything in-between. How can I be concerned about a meaningless ST win-loss record when I haven’t seen any of the stuff that actually is meaningful?
Frankly, if one thinks these guys are bust, to start with, this ST start just feeds one’s confirmation bias. But If one thinks the players actually are who they have been in the past, then the thought of ST scoreboard watching brings a chuckle, but not much else.
Arkansas Transplant
March 13th, 2012
1:24 pm
DS1, take your positive attitude and go elsewhere.. there’s no room for that kind of talk on here!
Murph
March 13th, 2012
1:26 pm
I’m still giving it another 5-7 games before I start to panic
I’m giving it April… if they have only one win for the month of April, then yeah, time to panic.
Arkansas Transplant
March 13th, 2012
1:26 pm
DOB, thanks for the clarification but I never really thought he’d do that either.
Venice Jim
March 13th, 2012
1:26 pm
Time to head for home – enjoy the game – be back in 5 hours or so…
DS1
March 13th, 2012
1:26 pm
But, but, but………..
Arkansas Transplant
March 13th, 2012
1:28 pm
No buts
Fols
March 13th, 2012
1:28 pm
No way I could see him walking……he’s gotta pick his words better though. I want to see him exit on his terms on a more positive note. That article ran and it just sounded like he was already dead.
bravesgrl4life
March 13th, 2012
1:28 pm
amazing how delayed the radio is when compared with gameday.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:28 pm
Minor walks Morrison to start the bottom of the 2nd.
Uggla-Pastornicky-Freeman erases the walk on the next pitch.
Mixxo
March 13th, 2012
1:29 pm
Duke -
Huh?
I haven’t said it yet Boss.
Patience!
Arkansas Transplant
March 13th, 2012
1:29 pm
You need some time to reflect on that attitude and come back when your more downtrodden.
ncgary
March 13th, 2012
1:30 pm
wayne i dont think being a braves fan has anything to do with that
raleighbravefan
March 13th, 2012
1:30 pm
Duke – Some of us stay on the band wagon, rain or shine…some jump off and on (kinda like UNC fans), and somejust hurl insults from the sidelines. In spite of the irritation factor, I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.
CB
March 13th, 2012
1:30 pm
I am one of Chipper’s biggest fans, but sometimes best to keep mouth shut. Loose lips sink ships.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:30 pm
DS1, March 13th, 2012, 1:24 pm, … “Does being a Braves fan for 45 years give me the right to be an ass hole?”
I don’t think “Da Sensitive Ass Hole” has quite the sound you’re looking for.
Meanwhile, Minor strikes out Buck to end the second.
David O'Brien
March 13th, 2012
1:31 pm
After Morrison leadoff walk, Braves Minor induces GIDP by Sanchez and strikes out Buck to end 2nd.
Duke
March 13th, 2012
1:31 pm
Minor has been a pleasant surprise this spring. I think him and one of either Teheran/Delgado need the confidence of a good spring more than anyone else. If Minor can pitch well then our staff should be really solid.
DS1
March 13th, 2012
1:32 pm
As Arnold S said in the terminator, “I’ll be back!”
Duke
March 13th, 2012
1:33 pm
Mixxo-
Good news, let’s keep the positive thoughts going for the Bravos. I’m staying positive through this miserable spring so far. I think we will start to reel off a few wins here soon.
DS1
March 13th, 2012
1:33 pm
But I can be soooooooooooo good at it…….
Later folks
Bo Graves!
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:34 pm
Heyward strikes out swinging on a 3-2 pitch. 1 down.
Kwajbraves
March 13th, 2012
1:35 pm
JHey SO. Another quick inning by Z.
ncgary
March 13th, 2012
1:35 pm
if you answer a question truthfully are you really insulting
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:35 pm
The Rev grounds to the pitcher. 2 outs.
raleighbravefan
March 13th, 2012
1:35 pm
scoots @1:24 – As usually, you pretty much nail it.
Fols
March 13th, 2012
1:36 pm
I don’t know what’s worse, following on Gameday or our bats?
Gameday showed that it was in-between innings, by the time it refreshed we had 2 outs…
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:36 pm
Constanza lines out to Zambrano (the crack sounded like it was hit pretty well).
No hits through 2.5.
bravesgrl4life
March 13th, 2012
1:37 pm
Lets hope Minor can go toe to toe with Zambrano in this duel.
VaBravesFan
March 13th, 2012
1:38 pm
Clay (Charlotte)
Bold Prediction: Around June, Chipper will lead a coop to overthrow Fredi, becoming the first player/manager in a few decades. By having his middle hitters actually hit the ball instead of bunt, the Braves actually make the Wildcard.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:39 pm
After the first out of the third, a soft liner over the Rev results in the game’s first hit.
Arkansas Transplant
March 13th, 2012
1:39 pm
Don’t have a calendar in front of me, when is opening night? I have a trip planned July 28th thru Aug 3rd to Atlanta. Going to take in the series against the Phils.
Kwajbraves
March 13th, 2012
1:41 pm
I’d trade a bad ST and a bad April for a good SEP and OCT.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:41 pm
Fly out to Diaz in LF for out #2.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:42 pm
Almost an error on Freeman, but the ball is called foul.
Tim
March 13th, 2012
1:43 pm
Heyward will be in minors this year has not since doing that comercial breaking windows.
Kwajbraves
March 13th, 2012
1:43 pm
Minor’s curve is dancing today.
abeeewright
March 13th, 2012
1:44 pm
I guess the third out is recorded, as I’ve lost audio.