Braves fall to 1-5 in spring with loss to O’s

SARASOTA, Fla. – Mike Minor is benefitting greatly from the 15 starts he made for the Braves at last season. His manager and catcher see it – and say it bodes well.

The young left-hander made his second start of the spring Thursday. He threw three innings and allowed no runs, three hits, one on the infield, and walked two in a game the Braves eventually lost to the Orioles, 2-1. Minor also induced two double-play grounders as he worked on his breaking ball and change-up.

“I think he is a different guy in general, after seeing him in September,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “There is a comfort level there. There is a mindset that he belongs.”

Minor went 5-3 with a 4.14 ERA with 70 strikeout and 30 walks last season. He made nine starts in August and September after injuries to Jair Jurrjens and Tommy Hanson.

Catcher David Ross said that because Minor’s fastball command was so good Thursday, they worked on off-speed pitches to expand his repertoire.

“He had good fastball command, which is number one for me early on in spring training,” Ross said. “The other stuff he will get a feel for to get over. He threw a really good change-up. His breaking ball is, like every spring, the last thing to come from most pitchers. I’m just glad he moved the ball in and out with his fastball, got some ground balls and his changeup is a lot better than years past, it’s got more movement. He’s come a long way in the few years he’s been here.”

Minor said he will work four innings in his next start, which will come Tuesday against the Marlins, as he continues to build arm strength.

“It’s just getting out there and try to establish the strike zone,” Minor said. “Once you establish that you can try to pick corners. Right now, I’m still trying to concentrate on my breaking ball, flick it in there for 0-0 [count] and try to bury it. Same thing with the change-up. I threw a couple today it was 0-2, 1-2 that were too much in the zone. During the season you want to get that out of the zone.”

Working on secondary pitches is what Gonzalez says he wants to see him from his pitchers as they make their second spring starts.

“I thought he did that very nicely with his changeup,” he said. “ … That is what we’ve got to start seeing, want to start seeing, that command of those secondary pitches. He had that today.”

Hanson debuts Sunday

Gonzalez confirmed the Hanson will make his spring debut on Sunday in the home game of a split squad contests with the Blue Jays. Hanson, who is coming back from a concussion suffered in a one-car accident two weeks ago, threw a final batting practice session at the team’s Disney complex Thursday.

Left-hander Sean Gilmartin will start the road game in Dunedin.

The Braves play split-squad games against the Mets (home) and Yankees (away) on Friday. Starting at Disney will be Randall Delgado and starting in Tampa will be Julio Teheran. The game against the Yankees will be shown on the MLB Network, the Braves first televised game of the spring.

Brandon Beach will pitch Monday and Minor on Tuesday. Gonzalez has yet to decide if Delgado or Teheran will start Wednesday.

Braves still with one win

The Braves (1-5) lost Thursday after the Orioles plated runs in the seventh and eighth innings at Ed Smith Stadium. J.J. Hoover took the loss after he allowed two hits and two walks in the eighth inning.

Eric Hinske had given the Braves a 1-0 lead with a home run to right field in the top of the seventh when he connected on a hanging breaking ball from Zach Philips.

“I’ve been kind of searching up there, not feeling too hot, just trying to find my timing,” Hinske said. “The first pitch of that at-bat was a fastball middle in and I fouled it off the right way. I was like ‘There it is.’ Then he hung a breaking ball and I hit a home run. Sometimes it just takes one little thing and you click in.”

The Braves had the bases loaded with no outs in the eighth inning but failed to score with Brandon Hicks struck out and Ernesto Mejia hit into a double play. The Braves also loaded the bases and failed to score in Wednesday’s loss to the Tigers.

“Yes,” Gonzalez said when asked if he was concerned by the 1-5 start. “In the grand scheme of things you want to win ball games. I don’t care if they are in the Grapefruit League or an inter-squad game back on Field No. 2. You want to win ball games. We are playing some good baseball and the winning will come. We are getting some people on base. … It’s coming. It’s still early. The number one thing right now is being healthy.”

119 comments Add your comment

flange1

March 8th, 2012
4:50 pm

Thanks for the nice story Chris!

Vinny

March 8th, 2012
5:10 pm

Trade Minor!

Felix

March 8th, 2012
5:13 pm

and the great choke continues………….

stew

March 8th, 2012
5:22 pm

Did anyone notice how many games they’ve lost since last year? They lost the last three games to Philly? Right? Better get the ship righted or dump Gonzo before it’s too late.

Weaseal

March 8th, 2012
5:22 pm

Good thing we don’t play in the American League….

Braves Fan Since 1966

March 8th, 2012
5:26 pm

It’s a really good thing that spring training games don’t count because it would then look like the Braves can’t win for losing like they demonstrated last September.

Larry

March 8th, 2012
5:35 pm

Fruiti is not a major league quality and will lead this team very talented team to a 3rd or 4th place finish.

Should have gotten Joe Girardi after he left the Marlins, and should have hired either Terry Francona or Bobby Valentine in the offseason. All three are championship caliber managers and with a significantly higher aptitude than Fruiti.

Tampa Fan

March 8th, 2012
5:37 pm

Actually, they lost their last 5 games in 2011. Sure, it’s just spring, but this is not a very good team. Just too many holes and question marks, even before the injuries happen. And they will.

Old Timer

March 8th, 2012
5:45 pm

I going to make a prediction. If the Braves are way down in the standings by the All-Star break, Fredi just might be looking for other employment. Thus far, I’m not convinced he’s the right guy for this job. Of course, the players are the ones that have to produce day-to-day, but the right manager with the good team chemistry means a great deal. Also, the injury bug could have a significant impact on how our team performs. I really like our pitching staff, but we’ve got to begin hitting on a more consistent basis.

Geno

March 8th, 2012
5:47 pm

The Great Choke of last season is no doub of concern. Spring training sets the tone for the new season, and now is the time to get W’s, grapefruit league or not. While it is extremely early, they’d better establish the mental toughness to do what it takes to win. I’m getting this sick feeling in my stomach again….call it spring fever. It’s time for some wins, Bravos!

Tampa Fan

March 8th, 2012
5:58 pm

Is there any hope that FW will make any changes? Anybody hearing anything at all? Or is this sad sack bunch what we have for the long haul? Before you kool aid drinkers get on here and starting harping about it just being 6 games into spring, I have been saying since the end of that disaster that was 2011 that changes were needed. It’s very frustrating to realize that we are financially limited because so much is tied up paying Chipper to sit half the time with various aches and we are paying Lowe $10 mil to pitch for Cleveland. Uggla is also way overpaid to be productive for 35 games and an automatic out for the other 125. Just sad.

Mark (another one)

March 8th, 2012
6:02 pm

Expect the starters to stay in longer in another week or two. That is when we will be able to see how the team performs. Right now there are lots of innings played by people who won’t be on the roster, and people are still working on too many things.

Read the article about Minor working on his secondary pitches and only going three innings. Once the starters are pitching six or seven, and they are using all their pitches, then its time to judge them. Same goes for the hitters. Hinske is a good hitter with power, and he’s still searching for it now. It will be different in a couple of weeks.

64 year Braves fan

March 8th, 2012
6:12 pm

This is the weakest hitting team in the majors. If they have a bad April, Fredi will be gone by May 1st.
Bring back Lance Parish, Corky Miller, & Greg Norton.

kevkat

March 8th, 2012
6:27 pm

hey, we’re fine as long as the “cap tipping” hasn’t started..

kdawg1017

March 8th, 2012
6:27 pm

uh oh 1 and 5 the skys falling pack it up seasons over

Phillies Phanatic

March 8th, 2012
6:33 pm

Maybe Chipper’s father can come in to lend some needed batting instruction.

The latest hitting coach (both of them) don’t seem to be working out.

cornjolio

March 8th, 2012
6:36 pm

Jason Heyward went 1 for 3 today; that should be cause for some celebration.

Abner Doubleday

March 8th, 2012
6:41 pm

When I invented this game back in 1839, stealing bases, moving runners over, bunting, taking pitches, etc. were part of the overall strategy to enable a team to score runs and hopefully outscore the opponent within the constraints of 9 innings.

Somehow this Braves team has not read my basic book of instruction. Swinging at the first pitch and swinging for the fence usually doesn’t win too many games.

Fredi Gonzalez, you’re FIRED !

SR

March 8th, 2012
7:00 pm

Right- but it’s only Spring Training. Keep saying that. Dim Wren improved this team so much in the offseason, the excitement is palpable. Can’t wait to see Pastornicky overmatched at the plate like his cohorts as they strand runner, after runner, after runner…… YAWNNNN……

Mike

March 8th, 2012
7:02 pm

Oh no! 1-5 in Spring Training call all the king’s horses and men this team is falling apart!

Seriously people I have seen enough baseball to know that ST is not a clear sign of how the team is. Heyward hit .356 last spring, Gonzo .294, McLouth .280, McCann .218, Hinske .160. Just let the guys get their work in. It is slightly better for the pitchers cause they slowly work in but hitters get thrown in basically immediately after an offseason of not hitting as much so a 90 MPH fastball looks like its coming at 180 MPH.

Art F. Dodger

March 8th, 2012
7:07 pm

Uh..is Chumper…er I mean…Slipper…sh…Chipper gonna be able to play at all this Spring? Wasn’t it just last week, that he declared himself strong, fit and ready for Spring Training…what happened…oh, yea thats right 39 years and 11+ months old….guess I’m a lucky 40+ yo…no quad pulls…..

archie

March 8th, 2012
7:08 pm

They could go 30-0 in spring training, but the fundamental problems remain: one good glove (Freeman) in the field; no power in the outfield; no third baseman; a shortstop that needs another year or two in the minors; a catcher starting the downhill slope of his career; a low-range, low impact 2nd baseman; an injury-riddled starting pitching staff.

If all goes well, 3rd place. More realistic, 4th place.

George Washington

March 8th, 2012
7:25 pm

chipper jones is bad karma. Until he’s gone the Braves will flourish.

Delbert D.

March 8th, 2012
7:27 pm

JJ’s parents passed up the chance to name him J. Edgar Hoover? What’s up with that?

Norris

March 8th, 2012
7:29 pm

cant hit. same song second verse. It was the 8th inning today and once again had like 4 hits. people say we arent even playing the starters but we aint playing against them either. our rookies cant even get hits.

steve brown

March 8th, 2012
7:30 pm

The strength of a club is up the middle. We have a rookie SS, a rented CF and a catcher in a prolonged slump-we could be in deep trouble.

Dean

March 8th, 2012
7:41 pm

Good grief, it’s just the spring y’all!

bustersonly

March 8th, 2012
7:41 pm

Art F Dodger – His name is Cripper

Ryan

March 8th, 2012
7:55 pm

bobby

March 8th, 2012
8:03 pm

Maybe the Braves are not playing their regulars but neither are the other teams. The Braves STINK and there is no way to sugar coat it and say they don’t. Unless a lot of changes are made, it will be last September all over again.

Rupert

March 8th, 2012
8:10 pm

Obviously these games are meaningless, but the danger is the do-nothing approach the Braves took, from the manager and GM’s perspective at least, is that if things does go south this year, there MUST be severe consequences for both of them, i.e. their jobs.

Bravo Uno

March 8th, 2012
8:11 pm

Our regulars don’t hit their regulars or backups or rookies !

Bravo Uno

March 8th, 2012
8:13 pm

“The strength of a club is up the middle. We have a rookie SS, a rented CF and a catcher in a prolonged slump-we could be in deep trouble.”

That’s the best analysis I’ve read yet on this blog !

Sad, but true.

Scuba Steve

March 8th, 2012
8:17 pm

Once again, 1 run on the board. Absolutely inept offense. If we can put 4 runs up, it’s a lock down win for us. With that pitching and bullpen. 4 runs = WINS! Trade Jair and Delgado for some pop in the bats. If not, it’s gonna be a long year of stranding the bases loaded and leaving 11 men. I know it’s still early but the vibe i’m getting from this team is, CHOKE!!! I hope i’m wrong. Go Bravos!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

March 8th, 2012
8:31 pm

braves still can’t get over last year’s pathetic collapse. they’re playing like a bunch dogs with tails between their legs is how i see it.

BravesFanInCLT

March 8th, 2012
8:32 pm

Any update on Chipper? It is quite concerning that he played two games and missed the next 4. In September, maybe that would make sense, but it’s the beginning of camp! Give the Terd #10 and let’s move on.

Young Man's Game

March 8th, 2012
8:44 pm

Hey Fredi, I guess I was wrong. I thought it was “early” for the Tigers and the Orioles, too! Guess I was wrong…. When we gonna play some other teams it is “early” for, too??

abby normal

March 8th, 2012
8:46 pm

Was this Fredi’s first “it’s still early” quote of the season? Surely dozens more will follow. Here are a few predictions for the upcoming regular season: Chipper will not play more than sixty games, the kid shortstop will not hit enough to keep the job beyond the All Star break, Heyward will not figure it out and left-handers will continue to eat him up, Prado will return to form and he along with Freeman, Bourn, Uggla and McCann will carry the team. Fredi will be gone within two years.

Young Man's Game

March 8th, 2012
8:50 pm

You think Chipper will play 60? Maybe…maybe not. If I had to predict, I’d say not.

Young Man's Game

March 8th, 2012
8:52 pm

I played a lot of years, albeit, not at Chipper’s level, not even close. But one thing seems to be the same, no matter the level. Age 39-40 you lose the ability to give it 100% w/out hurting yourself.

Puma

March 8th, 2012
8:53 pm

Jeez people, its spring training, its practice -who gives a crap if they win or lose? It means nothing.

Jamesdubi

March 8th, 2012
8:54 pm

Way harsh guys. Spring training is about figuring things out. Freddi is doing a good job. Would like to see a trade at SS though.

glord1

March 8th, 2012
9:00 pm

I was at the game today in Sarasota. Minor looked really smooth. I was also impressed with Jaye Chapman. As far as hitting there was not much happening other than the Hinske bomb. Pastornicky did look good defensively. Its early.

Brother John

March 8th, 2012
9:00 pm

It’s Tuiti Fruiti time. It’s Tuiti Fruiti time. Blind leading the blind. Yes, it’s September in March, people!!

Tom

March 8th, 2012
9:06 pm

Braves are already back in late 2011 form.

Alaska Braves Fan

March 8th, 2012
9:08 pm

As of today, I see the Braves with a minimum of 85 wins. As the spring progresses, I expect to see all the pieces falling into place, and in the end this team will win 90 or 92 games. Will we make the playoffs? Yep. I think so. Minor looks like a genuine big league pitcher, and the rest of the lineup seems poised to score enough runs to support a very good bunch of pitchers. This is not the overwhelming lineup some folks on this blog would like to see; without a very much larger bunch of cash, no better lineup can be put together. Even those teams who, in the past, have pasted together a bunch of superstars often have disappointed their fans. Money talks in most aspects of life, but in sports, it isn’t always decisive. Fredi is a good leader, and this club has one of the most important intangibles, team spirit. I have high hopes!

ABF

Hang it up

March 8th, 2012
9:09 pm

“Any update on Chipper?”

The only update I’m anxiously waiting for is the day Chipper retires, so the Braves’ GM, whether it be Frank Wren or his replacement, can use that money toward an everyday player at least 10 years younger than the current thirdbaseman.

Fresno Bravo

March 8th, 2012
9:09 pm

This has to be the biggest bunch of nonsense one could ever read. It’s spring training, meaning training and whatever. Ernesto Mejia (or whoever) grounded into a double play in the 8th with the bases loaded? OMG, it’s doomed and there is no chance. Fredi is an idiot! Dan Uggla and his 35 homers or whatever is low impact! Chipper is fat!!! Not to be self righteous or anything, but the only reason I bothered to read the comments was to see how overblown and stupid a certain group of fans could be. Not disappointed. Flip the damn spring training and NFL preseason results and you get a good idea of how the season will actually turn out. Bad teams play their starters more because they have to and because they have no talent to begin with (or subpar). Good teams don’t give a crap. I mean really, Minor was working on his offspeed stuff today, if that gives you some indication…

cornjolio

March 8th, 2012
9:12 pm

Alaska Braves Fan,

What can you see clearer from your backyard:

Russia, or a Braves’ post-season appearance?

parabrave

March 8th, 2012
9:22 pm

Enter your comments here God it’s going to be another long year. Come on 4th place.

Alaska Braves Fan

March 8th, 2012
9:35 pm

cornjolio: Unless an Alaskan lives on Little Diomede – and very few do – Russia definitely is NOT visible from here. I’m not an infallible prognosticator, but I do think this team has some good players and an effective manager. Also, I’m an indefatigable Braves fan, so I hope for the best. Nonetheless, I do see a team with very many good to excellent players. If the wind blows in the right direction, we’re into post-season play.

One other thought: Throughout my life as a fan, and my own professional career, I have developed a strong aversion to negative thinkers. Positive thoughts and steady effort produce better results; those who see only doom bring us down. So, onward and upward, eh? In the end, the goal – and the best revenge – is to live well!

ABF

Tom

March 8th, 2012
9:36 pm

Edward Salcedo, remember the name, the braves top 3rd base prospect.

Bill

March 8th, 2012
9:55 pm

The Braves are like a 500lb man eating with two forks.. you don’t have to worry about him because he will kill his selve.

Ty Cobb's Soul

March 8th, 2012
9:57 pm

Chipper: “Sorry I’m lame Skipper.”
Fredi: “This season already sucks. I’m gonna get fired.”
Chipper: “Nothing that the bottom of a bottle won’t make better…”
Fredi: “Your right, I need a drink. Isn’t there a Hooters around here?”
Chipper: “Smart arse.”

phil

March 8th, 2012
10:02 pm

Fire ABF and FG!!

Alaska Braves Fan

March 8th, 2012
10:14 pm

Whoa! Before I get fired, perhaps I should be hired. And, if somehow I already have been hired, where’s my salary? Jeez! I feel so conflicted!

ABF

bulldogbubba

March 8th, 2012
10:17 pm

Now playing 3rd base and hitting in the #3 spot – Martin Prado. We can rotate outfielders and make it work. Fredi said he was putting the best team on the field. GO BRAVES!!!

bulldogbubba

March 8th, 2012
10:18 pm

WHERES CLUSTERS?

Billy bowlegs

March 8th, 2012
10:30 pm

Mister Frisky

March 8th, 2012
10:47 pm

What team has been playing good ball?What a knob.Fire Fredo know why wait till memorial day when they are 10 back.

Tampa Gator

March 8th, 2012
10:48 pm

Glad current Braves fans aren’t negative and overreactive types. Me….I am looking forward to watching the game in Dunedin on Sunday. Go Braves!

Tampa Gator

March 8th, 2012
10:49 pm

Fire Gonzalez. Fire Richt. Fire Jesus Christ. Heck….fire God while you are at it.

Mister Frisky

March 8th, 2012
10:55 pm

The more I listen to Fredo talk,the more I’m convinced he swallowed too much salt water on the raft ride over from Cuba.Where was ICE when we needed them most.

Big Wally

March 8th, 2012
11:10 pm

This team couldn’t hit little league pitching,,,,,but their glad they didn’t make any big offseason moves, puhlease. It will be another year of low scoring games, blowing out the bullpen, watching Chipper and Heyward hit slow rollers to 2nd trying to pull every pitch, same ole Braves, just and different year.

Mitchell

March 8th, 2012
11:31 pm

The Braves had the bases loaded with no outs in the eighth inning but failed to score with Brandon Hicks struck out and Ernesto Mejia hit into a double play.

Sure, it’s Brandon Hicks and Ernesto Mejia in March, no big deal.

But then it’s Jason Heyward and Chipper Jones come September against Ross Detweiler in D.C.

Or is it Russ?

Doesn’t really matter, does it?

Mitchell

March 8th, 2012
11:37 pm

It really is getting a little bit easier to one day soon cutting ties with this team.

They don’t call it “die hard” for nothin’.

Soon enough the day will come and I can stop wasting my time caring whether they win or lose.

Mitchell

March 8th, 2012
11:45 pm

Bravo Uno

March 8th, 2012
8:13 pm

“The strength of a club is up the middle. We have a rookie SS, a rented CF and a catcher in a prolonged slump-we could be in deep trouble.”

That’s the best analysis I’ve read yet on this blog !

Sad, but true.

The sad thing is we have enough talent up and down the roster to win 95 games and the World Series while we’re at it but they’re too damn good at making excuses and throwing in the towel when the going gets tough, they won’t even come close to it.

ozzie

March 9th, 2012
12:27 am

There is not enough talent to win a WS on this team. A WC run down to the wire is the best case scenario.

No team with a 40yo and oft injured 3B, a totally green SS (now with an injured all defense backup) a 2B in LF and a RF trying to find his way (plus a very weak bench) can be classified as a 95 win team who could win the WS.

They have lots of potential down the road but 2012 will be a mulligan year before payroll frees up and the rookie arms mature.

iwalterp

March 9th, 2012
12:38 am

I was watching a Giants spring game the other day and they kept talking about this speedster who kept getting hits and stealing 2nd and scoring runs. To my surprise that speedster was GREGO BLANCO. He who never was used by the Braves as a leadoff hitter and certainly was not asked to use his speed to steal bases.

Billy

March 9th, 2012
12:42 am

It’s spring training for Pete’s sake. If you’re going to go by Grapefruit League records, then Seattle (6-1) will win the World Series and Kansas City and Houston (both 4-2) are playoff contenders. Not in this universe. Be patient, the Braves will be just fine.

rally

March 9th, 2012
1:02 am

Hey….I am 1-5 in MLB THE SHOW and the season has just started. Believe it or not these Braves cannot hit worth a flip……and the pitching is freaking horrible. Hudson and Hanson both give up to many homeruns and walks its not even funny and the Umpires don’t give em any breaks. SAD DAY FOR AMERICA’s TEAM after such a great run of East Titles.

The entitlement crap and overpayment to players has become the norm just like in every other thing in life. No real true leaders or role models left with the exception of Chipper.

Waffle House or Bust

March 9th, 2012
1:39 am

Don’t expect any major change for Braves baseball until Bobby Ball is completely killed off. Lose Fredi, Chipper, TP and anyone connected to that era. Start a fresh new one and finally move on. I have never hated the 90’s so much as I do with Braves baseball. LET IT GO!!!!

clay

March 9th, 2012
4:36 am

It’s so funny to see people freak out on here over spring training. IT’S SPRING TRAINING. It’s where hitters try different things they wouldn’t during the season. Where pitchers work on new pitches (medlen) come on people, really?

bob

March 9th, 2012
6:12 am

While I agree that wins and losses are not important in spring training, I do have concerns over the complete lack of offense. Six games and only one game where the team has scored more than two runs.

Let’s hope things improve.

Dwayne

March 9th, 2012
6:17 am

Uh Oh Bravos

March 9th, 2012
6:18 am

Like I mentioned a few times in other posts on this board, maybe the Braves are just warming up ever-so-slowly and saving all the gas for Sept-Oct? Maybe theres a hot #1 draft prospect Wren has his tiny little heart set on so the team must finish dead last(IF they can out lose the Nationals, this is their specialty)?

Honestly I don’t think anyone knows whats up with these guys, even the front office .Hopfully the guys pull it together here when te regular season starts or we are in for quite a bumpy ride.

Runnin

March 9th, 2012
6:34 am

I wonder how season tickets sales are doing.

Disgusted

March 9th, 2012
7:09 am

If the Braves start out the season say, 3-12, this should be it for Fredi, a start like that after what happened in September and enough is enough.

I don’t worry much about the first half of ST, but I do want they ready to play games that count before they break camp.

larry(notLARRY)

March 9th, 2012
7:14 am

Fresno Brave and Billy are the only intelligent people on this blog today.

Disgusted

March 9th, 2012
7:15 am

“I have never hated the 90’s so much as I do with Braves baseball. LET IT GO!!!!”

@Wafflehouse–You can’t be serious. You hated 5 WS appearacnes and 8 appearances in the LCS? Yea, we should have had three or 4 WS championships in that run (should have had one in either 02 or 03, but that run is what defined Braves baseball when the team used to spend. And win

It was after the 03 season the Braves were run just like any other team.

Time Warner(after Ted lost his boardroom fight) and Liberty Media—The begining of the decline of Braves baseball.

Its not America’s team anymore. The TBS days are gone.

Disgusted

March 9th, 2012
7:20 am

The negativity is a function of what happened in September, more Braves fans are not over it and they should not be.

The Braves do seserve to be Booed when they take the field opening day.

Brave New World

March 9th, 2012
7:56 am

Felix March 8th, 2012 5:13 pm “and the great choke continues………….”

Felix: Glad you’ve found a way to relax during The Braves 1-5 start – sounds like you’ve got the problem well in hand. GO BRAVES!

BALI

March 9th, 2012
8:12 am

SURE SEEMS TO BE ALOT of managers and general managers in waiting who post on this blog…why dont u get a bat and glove and start your own team

Richard

March 9th, 2012
8:34 am

MAN, you guys are horrible fans. How about we point to the good? Nice HR by Hinske, Minor looked pretty sharp in his second spring game. Uggla isn’t showing signs of starting the season hitting .173. Cheer up you bunch of whiners.

Richard

March 9th, 2012
8:36 am

BTW, I remember a couple of years ago, the Braves dominated in the spring, only to have a mediocre season and miss the playoffs. Just keep that in mind.

Brave New World

March 9th, 2012
8:50 am

The best part about spring training is that currently the Braves are 0-0 in the 2012 regular season, which ties them for the best record in baseball with every other team. GO BRAVES!

Larry

March 9th, 2012
8:59 am

Dummies,

Fruiti just yesterday said “the goal is to always win the game, be it the Grape Fruit League or the game going on the back field with the second team…the goal is to win and have a mindset of winning.”

So, at 1-5, we know that Fruiti wants to win the game but hasn’t a clue how to do it, so stop blaming poor play and poor coaching on Spring Training.

Don

March 9th, 2012
9:02 am

“The Braves fail to score with the bases loaded and no outs”
Why do you print that??? That does not fit any journalism definition of being “NEWS’ (has already happened so many times that it has become habitual)

poopsie

March 9th, 2012
9:03 am

Same old Braves—No offense.It’s gonna be a long season. We gotta get rid of the Bobby Cox/Fredi Gonzalez system. Whatever it takes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Drew

March 9th, 2012
9:05 am

I only read the first few comments, but I stopped when someone suggested we should have hired Bobby Valentine. What a joke. That man is a terrible manager. He couldn’t even win it all with that loaded Mets team, that anyone could have gotten to the playoffs. Some of these comments are ridiculous. Bobby Valentine a good manager??? LOL

Bourn Ultimatum

March 9th, 2012
9:05 am

Following the Braves since last August has been as much fun as a colonoscopy.

Don

March 9th, 2012
9:07 am

“It’s early” –”The Braves havn’t had enough time to get squared away yet” — “Just wait a while” ETC. ETC. ETC.
Did I miss something – How many weeks earlier than the Braves did all the other teams start their Spring Training???

The Sertoma Kid

March 9th, 2012
9:09 am

To all the “Don’t worry, it’s only spring training folks”: I’ve been following the game for a long time, and it’s my general observation that the teams that play the best in the regular season also play the best in the preseason. The teams that play the worst in the preseason also play the worst in the regular season. There are probably exceptions to this, but generally, that’s how it shakes out. And that does not bode well for this Braves’ team.

Don

March 9th, 2012
9:12 am

NO – YES – and PROBABLY
Is Fredi as clueless as Bobby Cox? – NO
Is Fredi too much of a Bobby Cox clone – YES
Was it a big mistake for the Braves to hire Fredi – PROBABLY

DePort

March 9th, 2012
9:13 am

You people are really worried about spring training? … As long as are starters are pitching good and getting good swings on the ball then we are just fine. We mix in all these different players that usually a starter would play the whole game where we would win most of these games…. CALM DOWN!

Don

March 9th, 2012
9:20 am

What things are LIKELY and what things are UNLIKELY???
(1) With 4 of their 5 Starting Pitchers coming off injuries (Medlin was a Starter when he was injured); all 4 of these Starting Pitchers will return to their former greatness. —- Extremely UNLIKELY – Unlike position players many Pitchers do not return form after serious injury. The Braves will be very fortunate if TWO

Sonny Jackson

March 9th, 2012
9:25 am

If you don’t like the Braves, find another team and leave the rest of us alone… including Fredi. Really looking forward to all the empty seats at the Ted since you complainers won’t be there- now I can sit where ever I want to without all the fair weather folks talking on their cells the entire game.
We won’t miss you one bit.

Fredology

March 9th, 2012
9:27 am

When he is not fouling off pitches from the press during the regular season w/ the tip of his cap ,,, he is showing how he gets prepared during spring training by saying something as stupid as “Yes. I am concerned about not winning”. Good one Fredo ,,, it’s not as if your team came out of a state of being shell shocked after the collapse, but you have to compound it with saying your worried about the team being 1-5 (not that you shouldn’t be after the finish you had) in friggin’ early spring training. Way to build up their confidence you dolt.

cowdogit

March 9th, 2012
9:33 am

It’s clear the braves need to rebuild this team. A good start is to trade Bourn while he has some trade value, and the next GM manager that trades for a player that has Scott Boras for an agent should be fired..

Don

March 9th, 2012
9:36 am

Sorry – computer problem – Post of 9:20 posted before being complete:
What things are LIKELY and what things are UNLIKELY??
(1) With 4 of their 5 Starting Pitchers comming off injuries (counting Medlin as a Starter), all 4 of these Starting Pitchers will return to their former greatness. — Extremely UNLIKELY – Unlike position players, many Pitchers do not return to form after serious injury. The Braves will be fortunate if TWO out of the FOUR return to their former effectiveness.
(2) Heyward will have good offensive production for a corner major league outfielder. — UNLIKELY -There is no basis (so far) to think that this will happen. After major leage pitchers adjusted to him, he showed no signs of being able to adjust to them. More likely it will be production that may not be good enough for a fourth or fifth reserve outfielder. Obviously there is the chance that the new hitting coach can change this.
(3) The rookie shortstop will produce at an aceptable level for a major league shortstop. – UNLIKELY – It is likely that either his offense or his defense will not be adequate – perhaps both – but most likely there will be offensive problems.
(4) Prado will return to having very good offensive production especially in clutch situtations (if he is given a chance to play) – VERY LIKELY
(5) Chipper will play at least average defense at third base. – UNLIKELY -

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