Teheran (six HRs) rocked in Braves’ 18-3 loss

LAKELAND, Fla. – If it were May and not early March, the six-homer pummeling that Julio Teheran took in two innings and nine homers allowed by the Braves in an 18-3 loss to Detroit would’ve been hideous and alarming.

Instead it was just hideous.

The Braves’ highly rated prospects, Randall Delgado and Teheran, pitched the first three innings and were torched for 11 runs, eight hits and three walks, including seven runs off Teheran on six hits that were all homers.

“That’s an experience,” said Teheran, who gave up more homers in two innings than he allowed in 144-2/3 innings in Triple-A last season (five). Asked if he’d ever gone though anything similar, he said, “Never. No.”

If this were a regular season game,  six homers would have been the most allowed by any Atlanta or Milwaukee Braves pitcher.

In major league history, according to ESPN Stats and Info, no pitcher in a regular-season game has allowed six homers while recording six outs, nor has any pitcher had a six-hit, six-homer line in a regular season game.

But it wasn’t the regular season, it was the first game of spring training for two rookies competing with Mike Minor for the fifth spot in the starting rotation. They faced a formidable lineup that took advantage of a stiff wind blowing out to right field.

Nevertheless, it was ugly. And the Braves, who used only a few lineup regulars in the second game of the Grapefruit League season, mustered one extra-base hit and no homers playing in the same conditions.

“They still scored 18 runs, but I was thinking there were about four or five balls that on a normal day don’t go out,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “Just all around a tough day to toe the rubber.”

The Tigers have beaten the Braves twice in two days, and Detroit had as many homers each day as the Braves had hits (one Saturday, nine Sunday).

On a blustery day at Joker Marchant Stadium, wind assisted a couple of homers off Teheran. But four off the right-hander were crushed, including drives to left straight into the wind by Austin Jackson and Delmon Young.

Alex Avila also got all of a towering two-run homer to center off Delgado, on a 3-2 fastball. Delgado was supposed to pitch two innings, but threw so many pitchers (39) in the first inning that Teheran was brought in to start the second.

“It’s really hard to call a game in spring training, because you want guys to work on locating their fastball,” catcher David Ross said. “You don’t want to tip your hand to throwing 3-2 sliders or whatever their second pitch is every time you get in a jam. You’ve got to challenge guys, and today it was a rough environment to challenge and a rough lineup to challenge, that’s for sure.”

In the regular season Teheran, 21, wouldn’t have been left in after giving up three homers before recording his first out in the third inning. At one point, pitching coach Roger McDowell went out to talk to him.

“He told me, ‘I need you to finish this inning,’” Teheran said. “I said ‘OK, I will. I’m trying to.’”

Gonzalez said he wasn’t worried what it might do to Teheran’s confidence.

“He’ll throw a side between here and his next start, and I’m sure Roger will talk to him,” Gonzalez said. “But these kids are pretty solid kids. They’ll be fine… That’s what you want to see, how they react the next time out, but there’s no doubt in my mind that they’ll be fine. It’s a tough day to pitch, windy, couldn’t feel the ball, that type of thing. Just go on to the next start.”

Delgado was charged with four runs, two walks and two hits — Avila’s homer and Brennan Boesch’s RBI double.

“I didn’t have my control today,” said Delgado, 22. “I was behind the count. Every time that happens, you’re going to get hit if you don’t make pitches. That’s what happened.”

Ross would not have repeatedly called for 3-1 and 3-2 fastballs in a regular season game or later in spring training.

“I don’t want to take anything away from their hitters,” Ross said. “They put some good swings on balls. But they were in a lot of hitters’ counts. We went 3-1, would make a good pitch to make it 3-2 and they knew the same pitch was coming. I can’t call a dirty 3-2 slider the first inning in spring training. You’ve got to learn to command your fastball and make your pitch. That’s what these kids are trying to do.”

Delgado and especially Teheran kept getting behind in counts and throwing fastballs up in the strike zone.

“Did it stink? Yeah,” Ross said. “But I think one thing they learned is nothing is going to be easy coming in here, and we’ve got to fine tune some thing. There’s a lot of things we’ve got to work on. Sometimes it’s nice for all of us to have some struggles. It helps us work hard and figure out what we’ve got to do. There’s no doubt about the stuff, we’ve just got to work on location.”

163 comments Add your comment

The Sky is Falling

March 4th, 2012
6:34 pm

THIS IS THE END OF THE BRAVES” SEASON!?!?! OMG!?!?! Hehe.

Johnny

March 4th, 2012
6:34 pm

Alex

March 4th, 2012
6:41 pm

Would love to hear anything but excuses from Fredi.

T-Town

March 4th, 2012
6:43 pm

Sure hope no one hurt their neck turning to watch the ball fly out. These young men will learn.

bulldozer

March 4th, 2012
6:43 pm

Willy

March 4th, 2012
6:44 pm

It’s September in March

Weaseal

March 4th, 2012
6:46 pm

Weaseal

March 4th, 2012
6:47 pm

GOP Cannon

March 4th, 2012
6:48 pm

Ron

March 4th, 2012
6:50 pm

DOB-If Teheran and Delgado continue like this, do you think Medlen could end up with the 5th starter’s job at the beginning of the season?

UAB

March 4th, 2012
6:52 pm

I’m getting kind of skeptical about Pastornicky. I wonder if Hicks, Sutton, or Wilson could end up stealing the SS job from him.

drbasic

March 4th, 2012
6:52 pm

Fredi has an excuse for everything…”oh i think 4 or 5 of those balls…blah…blah…blah”….Why can’t he just say, we su$% its MY fault and I’m gonna have it fixed, thats my job……I could imagine what Billy Martin may have said had he been beaten like that even if it were a pick up game in the street…..I hate this organization more and more…..but as usual, i will hang with them and hope for the best…

Najeh Davenpoop

March 4th, 2012
6:53 pm

Gotta tip your hat to those Tigers.

double

March 4th, 2012
6:55 pm

Here we go.The wind done it.

flintrock70

March 4th, 2012
6:56 pm

OMG – we all gonna die!! As a Braves fan, some Braves fans annoy me. It’s March, chill.

Matt

March 4th, 2012
7:00 pm

Lol wow not an encouraging start to the spring.

Bobby in Bossier

March 4th, 2012
7:02 pm

Wow. This is shaping up to be a 100 loss team. Just glad it wasn’t on TV.

Del

March 4th, 2012
7:03 pm

It may be March but you got to admit that a “game’ like today leaves a very bad taste in your mouth. Lets hope FG finds some sweetner by tomorrow.

Felix

March 4th, 2012
7:05 pm

The great choke continues………

1eyedJack

March 4th, 2012
7:09 pm

“Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “Just all around a tough day to toe the rubber.””

The Tigers didn’t seem to have any trouble toeing the ol’ rubber.

BIG MAC

March 4th, 2012
7:16 pm

Sounds like a Dan Kolb & Scott Linebrink duo today. I wonder how long it will take Fredi to figure out that Roger McDowell isn’t much smarter than Larry Parrish.

cowdogit

March 4th, 2012
7:33 pm

Bobby Cox is not going to allow Fredi to bring Leo Mazzone back because if the team started winning division titles again it would make him look like a idiot for allowing him to leave in the first place.

Jack G

March 4th, 2012
7:36 pm

It’s early in ST for the braves—-on the other hand, it”s early for Detroit also

B-F_52

March 4th, 2012
7:42 pm

true that bmac

New year same old song

March 4th, 2012
7:43 pm

Only view we will have of the Phillies will be their rear bumper

AussieBrave

March 4th, 2012
7:48 pm

I try to be an optimist. I love the Braves; I certainly don’t think two losses in the first two Spring Training games is a microcosm of an entire season (and I realise it wasn’t a roster full of starters) – but GOD, even I feel a bit uninspired. I’ve given it some thought and I do think it is partly Fredi. I agree with 1eyedJack – Detroit seemed to pitch well enough under the same conditions. I think the real worrying thing about it is that eventually if they don’t start hitting the Braves players themselves will start to feel like many here do, that they’re never going to hit again.

least of the east

March 4th, 2012
7:50 pm

at least we got more than 1 hit today.
maybe the wind changed directions when we batted every inning

next we play the Astros I think
now they are on our level
could be close this time

but it’s never panic time in Atlanta
according to Frank and Fred, everything is just fine and dandy

DawgNole

March 4th, 2012
7:52 pm

Trying to post but can’t. No offensive language whatsoever! What a ridiculous filter.

Mister Frisky

March 4th, 2012
7:53 pm

3 runs in 2 games.The offense is already firing on all cylinders.

knockahomerx

March 4th, 2012
7:54 pm

Braves are banking on these young pitchers. If they fail, what a setback.

knockahomerx

March 4th, 2012
7:56 pm

We need true MLB professional hitters.

Steve

March 4th, 2012
8:10 pm

Wow – all the idiots on here saying this is a 100 loss team, talking about how bad we’re gonna be, and generally freaking out. SECOND DAY OF SPRING, GENIUSES! You folks on the AJC blogs never cease to amaze me with your COMPLETE LACK OF BASEBALL KNOWLEDGE!

Steve

March 4th, 2012
8:12 pm

BTW to the idiots who are griping about our offense – we have a pretty darn good offense – full of “MLB professional hitters” .. however .. early in the spring, offensive players aren’t typically at their midseason form yet and tend to struggle. Our team rarely hits early in ST. Even when we have a GREAT offense like 2003. It’s just how it is. Our offense will be pretty good this year barring injuries. SO .. STFU ya homers.

BRAVESFAN

March 4th, 2012
8:12 pm

I actually caught some video of the game tonight but first I had to watch 30 min of reporting about all the murders in Detroit today before the sports started on the news. They called it a home run derby.

Turd time is the charm!

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

March 4th, 2012
8:15 pm

Yep , the overgrown children have returned.

John A.

March 4th, 2012
8:16 pm

Be at ease boys, Fredi has everything under control. He gave us excuses and apologies up the yig yag last year, and he has started already and the season hasn’t started.

tim

March 4th, 2012
8:25 pm

The great thing about ST is at the end of ST every ones record is the same zero wins zero loses. Now while I am not convinced that FG is the guy I have always been certain that McDowell was a bad hire. Bring back Leo then even Freddie can look good.

John A.

March 4th, 2012
8:26 pm

After the display of our regulars during the last days of the season, you have to admit they don’t need spring training……THEY ARE READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BravesfaninWis

March 4th, 2012
8:34 pm

So sick of hearing excuses, just play the damn game and shut up. The Tigers pitchers and hitters aren’t having any problems at all are they? The Tigers have as many HR’s in the 2 games that the Braves have hits. That is pathetic no matter what part of the season it is. After getting 1 hit (In the 8th inning by a scrub) and shutout in the first game, and getting their asses handed to them in the second game, the Braves should be concerned.

Will these kids get better? I am sure they will, but right now neither one looks ready for the big leagues. With having injury prone pitchers like Hanson and Jurrgens, and the question mark on Hudson, we will see at least one of them for quite a few appearances, and possibly both of them. If this is what is to come, the Braves season will be over before it starts.

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Choppinmama

March 4th, 2012
8:46 pm

I can accept the pitching results ’cause they are working on pitches, getting back to game-ready, not throwing like they would in a regular game. BUT, why can’t we hit? These are pros, right? Hitting against pitchers working on stuff in spring training game, right? Their timing can’t be that off, right?

Grrrr, just so aggravating to deal with.

Tim

March 4th, 2012
8:48 pm

For all you crying about the Braves offense you do know that Prado and Pastornicky were the only starters to play today right? That’s what I thought. Get a clue before you post!

David the Shepherd

March 4th, 2012
8:54 pm

Still ST…..BUT, a team is a reflection of its leaders. Braves have some really good players, but with a passive manager & laissez-faire attitude, things are not looking too promising. This team must have strong leadership because they are all a bunch of “nice guys” who just want to get along and have a good time. That’s admirable if you don’t expect fans to shell out $ to see you play.

David the Shepherd

March 4th, 2012
8:58 pm

Tim, complaining about the Braves lack of offense is a valid action. The offense has been unproductive for a while and until it starts producing consistently, then there will be plenty of crying no matter how many starters are out there. Fans aren’t griping about the past 2 games only.

Bill

March 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

Thanks Tim. You beat me to it.

stew

March 4th, 2012
9:06 pm

There’s no reason to panic. Teheran pitched to a 15-3 record and Delgado threw seven starts and actually has more experience during the big dance. The real problem is in Fredi and McDowell. All I know is when he was here Leo was the ultimate pitching coach of all time. Whether or not his starters were the best ever (Philly pitchers don’t compare). He was doing something right for fourteen years. Likewise, I diagreed with Cox but he always won.

realist

March 4th, 2012
9:19 pm

Here we suck again…

Gulf Coast

March 4th, 2012
9:38 pm

Serious consideration should be given to the fact that there were 40 mph wind gusts blowing out there today.

Wade Blassingame's Ghost

March 4th, 2012
9:40 pm

Told ya in yesterday’s thread. TOLD ya!!! The GREAT pitching staff. Right. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David O'Brien

March 4th, 2012
9:40 pm

Ron: Sorry, man, but I just don’t think there’s much if any use in trying to extrapolate today’s performance by Delgado (one inning) and Teheran (two innings) over an entire spring training and speculating that Medlen could end up with 5th starter’s job if they continue at today’s pace. Because they won’t.

They’re getting Medlen stretched out in case he’s needed in event of injuries, trades, etc.

JayDubu

March 4th, 2012
9:41 pm

Equally alarming is the fact that the Braves’ bats have picked up right where they left off last season.

JayDubu

March 4th, 2012
9:43 pm

Did the wind stop blowing when the Braves came to bat?

Coach

March 4th, 2012
9:51 pm

You have to know and realize that pitchers are working on their pitches and hitters are working on hitting. Spring training is what it is folks…training. People that study the game and knows the ins and outs of what spring training is all about know that yeah, there are going to be games when we get our asses handed to us, but it is training and it will make our pitchers realize what they are doing wrong and what they need to do to correct their flaws. Did this afternoon’s game suck? Sure, it did. But, I tell you what, Delgado and Teheran got a real wakeup call today and will work on their command and location and be much better the next time out.

If it was the regular season, I seriously doubt that today would have happened, but hey, teams have scored 15-20 runs in games before. I will say one thing, I am sick and tired of these closet Braves fans ripping the team when they have a bad game, or when a player drops a routine fly ball, etc. Fans support their team through the good time and bad, enough said. They can lose every game during the spring, I could care less. Could it affect the confidence of our pitchers? Indeed it would, but Spring Training is intended to make the team better for the regular season. This team will pitch and hit just fine during the regular season, no reason for concern at this point. Our main priority should be getting everybody healthy for the regular season.

rc35

March 4th, 2012
9:52 pm

If the Braves had finished strong last year, I doubt anybody would be too concerned about their first two games this year. However, given the fact that we choked more abysmally than anyone could have imagined (even our pessimists) and the front office did nothing in the off season, Braves fans are hypersensitive right now, hoping that this is not a portent of doom. Freddi’s insightless postgame comments make Bobby Cox look like Howard Cosell, and with Liberty Media stonewalling at the top, only the performers on the field can make any credible statements to the fans, and so far all they’ve said is “We can’t give no satisfaction!”

AFSOC 1st Sgt

March 4th, 2012
9:54 pm

As bad as the pitchers got knocked around today, I’m too worried about our pitching this year. However, the bats are looking real ugly, real early. The hitting doesn’t seem to be improved at all.

Busch Leaguer

March 4th, 2012
9:57 pm

Before we all kneel at the alter of Saint Leo Mazzone ,remember when Glavine and Smoltz were rookies and the lumps they took learning how to be Major league pitchers. I think it is a mixed bag under McDowell but he has helped develop a strong back of the bullpen and give him time with the young starters before we go back to the days of Leo and Bobby.So few titles with so much pitching talent,the Braves of the 1990’s.

Robards

March 4th, 2012
10:07 pm

People, don’t read anything into these exhibition games. Let’s hope the Grapefruit League Braves go 10-18 or so–history says that’s usually much better than 18-10.

Jay

March 4th, 2012
10:10 pm

WHAT THE F?!?!?!

Larry Parrish

March 4th, 2012
10:29 pm

So how’s the new guy working out?

(Philly)Hater

March 4th, 2012
10:35 pm

When’s football season???

AussieBrave

March 4th, 2012
10:35 pm

I agree it’s game 2, I agree it’s Spring Training, I agree it’s too early, I agree the Braves will be a good team this year – BUT, I don’t think people are “idiots” to feel uneasy after the death by a thousand cuts last year. In sport, like many challening activities, is also a mental game. If the Braves do not start producing offensively they will themselves begin to self-fulfil the damning prophecy held by many on this blog. I – again – think they are a good team, but they simply MUST start to hit the ball regularly and with authority or two spring training games can quickly become 5, then 10……….

Cornjolio

March 4th, 2012
10:37 pm

letting Teheran give up SIX homers is a great way to screw up the kid’s confidence !

Hopefully, Kris Medlin will be given a legitimate shot to earn a job in the starting rotation, instead of being relegated to the bullpen.

Mitchell

March 4th, 2012
10:38 pm

The Sky is Falling

March 4th, 2012
6:34 pm

THIS IS THE END OF THE BRAVES” SEASON!?!?! OMG!?!?! Hehe.

The Braves blew a 10 game wild card lead in the final five weeks of the season and you’re still saying “the sky is falling”?

What do you call September 2011? A bad break?

You’re an idiot. As if anything has changed with this organization.

If there’s a team in the game of baseball to be blindly optimistic about, they don’t play in Atlanta.

Enjoy the season.

Nostradamus

March 4th, 2012
10:39 pm

If Braves’ success in 2012 is dependent on Chipper being healthy and Heyward returning to 2010 form, I see many unhappy fans in Braves’ Country …

JK

March 4th, 2012
10:41 pm

Freddi = worst coach interview in baseball. Hope he can coach as good as his interviewing is bad.

The Gipper

March 4th, 2012
10:43 pm

My Team, right or wrong.

Braves of the 1970s

March 4th, 2012
10:44 pm

Firing the hitting coach. Another new uniform. Lowering concession prices for season ticket holders. No meaningful free agent acquisitions.

This is what bad teams do !

Can ostrich races and new car giveaways be far behind ?

Largo

March 4th, 2012
10:48 pm

Forget about trading for offense, try to pick up some pitching.

Joe 12-Pack

March 4th, 2012
10:48 pm

Dear Frank Wren,
You suck.
Love,
Braves Fans

Chuck Simon's Barber Shop

March 4th, 2012
10:51 pm

Plenty of talent here, the cream will rise to the top. McDowell is great with the pitchers, he’s lethal driving a golf cart though. Ask Eddie Perez – took his life in his hands! Don’t forget Leo’s struggles with Baltimore. Just sayin’, it ain’t magic. I asked Greg Walker if they’ll cut down their swings after 2 strikes , he said “I hope so”, indicating the coach can only suggest, up to the player to listen – see Andruw Jones ignoring Terry Pendleton. Players are definitely in control, not the coaches or mgr. Look where the money is

Paul

March 4th, 2012
10:59 pm

There’s not a /facepalm big enough for these comments. How deplorable.

Dear whine bags,

March 4th, 2012
11:03 pm

Please shut up… I understand they blew everything last September and we got blew out today but damn atleast let the season get started before us true fans have to listen to yall complain.

David O'Brien

March 4th, 2012
11:06 pm

Freddi = worst coach interview in baseball. Hope he can coach as good as his interviewing is bad. — JK

They’re called managers in pro ball, man. C’mon, you know that.

[...] don’t want to take anything away from their hitters,” catcher Ross told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “They put some good swings on balls. But they were in a lot of hitters’ counts. We [...]

Chuck Simon's Barber Shop

March 4th, 2012
11:11 pm

DOB, “never”? How ’bout the 1962 Cubs?

W.R. Terrell

March 4th, 2012
11:11 pm

Enter your comments here

W.R. Terrell

March 4th, 2012
11:17 pm

I don’t think it’s time to sink the ship. Lets see what happens and how things go in the next couple of weeks. There was a time back in the 80’s where “TERRIBLE” was a household word when you spoke of the BRAVES. That’s not the case now, patience will pay off.

JAFO

March 4th, 2012
11:31 pm

Atta boy Mitchell!

Braveslog

March 4th, 2012
11:40 pm

Why did Fredi leave Teheran out there?

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Texas Brave

March 4th, 2012
11:45 pm

Relax everyone. This story should make you laugh, especially the quote by Teheran, “I’m trying to.”

Why it's a Ruger, thank you

March 4th, 2012
11:52 pm

Great pick up on the 62 Cubbies, Chuck!

Do we really need to open the blog to comments these next few weeks?

Oh yeah….fake fans some need spring training too!

JAFO

March 4th, 2012
11:53 pm

Steve takes buffoon of the day.

Wow

March 4th, 2012
11:59 pm

Ah yes, it was the wind’s fault. i guess it must’ve magically stopped blowing every time the Braves came to bat.

More lame excuses coming from this pathetic team

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

March 5th, 2012
12:02 am

pathetic braves, pathetic.

Tim

March 5th, 2012
12:17 am

Why do people think McDowell is a horrible pitching coach? Our pitching sucked in 2006 [4.60 ERA] but look at who we had pitching for us that year. It was the year Hudson was horrible and then the other starters that year were Smoltz, Chuck James, John Thomson, Horacio Ramirez and Kyle Davies. Wow! That really strikes fear into opposing teams.

In 2007 the Braves ranked 6th in the MLB [3rd in NL] with a 4.11 team ERA. In 2008 the Braves team ERA was horrible again at 4.46 but again look at who we had pitching for us. Jair Jurrjens was a rookie and by the end of the season he was our #1 starter. Hudson blew out his elbow in July and then the other starters were Jo-Jo Reyes, Jorge Campillo, Mike Hampton and Charlie Morton. Really? You’re going to hold that against him?

In 2009 the Braves ranked 3rd in the majors with a team ERA of 3.57. In 2010 the Braves ranked 3rd in the majors with a team ERA of 3.56. In 2011 the Braves ranked 4th in the majors with a team ERA of 3.48.

People act like Leo was a genius but really come on. Wow! Fastball down and away, fastball down and away, fastball down and away. Wow! Anyone can tell a pitcher to do that.

Chuck Simon's Barber Shop

March 5th, 2012
12:17 am

@Ruger

I believe the “Head Coach” was Bob Kennedy, a short-lived experiment in field mgmnt. and if you remember it from real time as do I (showing my age), Bobby Kennedy was U.S. Atty General at the time.

milesarcher33

March 5th, 2012
12:42 am

Sometimes you just got to tip your hat to the other team,

Steve

March 5th, 2012
1:57 am

Prospects are just that .. prospects. Medlen has proven himself and he should be given a true shot a the rotation. If he wins the job we can always move a prospect or two for soemthing we might have a pressing need for by the time opens.

As for this all being blamed on the wind, I guess that’s the same reason the Braves offense is putting up such ridiculous numbers. Errr .. oops.

59bulldawg

March 5th, 2012
5:05 am

Yeah it made me sick to my stomach too! But gee wiz it’s just the second preseason game for pete sakes! And some of you are already about to throw the team under the bus. LOL!

longtimefan

March 5th, 2012
6:45 am

Tim, I’ve discovered you can actually quote statistics and facts, present a rational argument and still the blogging geniuses will persist with their irrational statements. Such as “Chipper is always hurt”, when he actually ranked third in ABs among base men last year. Or “His fielding sucks”, when he was second in NL among eligible third basemen last year. To extrapolate concerning a season for the team or make derogatory comments about the pitchers after one or two innings of Spring ball just shows a basis ignorance of the game. I sometimes sense some of these so-called “fans” on the AJC blogs would like to see the Braves lose. I do think some of them posting are adolescents who don’t know better. Some just think they are being funny-usually not.

KK

March 5th, 2012
6:57 am

OK the wind was blowing, 4 or 5 shouldn’t have gone out, so subtract a TD it’s only 12-3,
much better

Ted

March 5th, 2012
6:58 am

It is 2 meaningless pre-season games guys. Give me a break.

Tony B.

March 5th, 2012
7:17 am

There is a way to not give up 6 homeruns you know, how about start missing bats. Don’t use the wind as an excuse.

Ozzie

March 5th, 2012
7:33 am

The crew yesterday wasn’t going to hit much at all. That was a given. The pitching was pretty bad but as Ross commented he let the kids repeatedly try to locate their fast ball even on hitters counts.

I doubt they will do that again this spring. It is one thing to teach its another to blast a kids confidence.

In the real world breaking stuff saves games so they will get to use their secondary pitches.

I am not jazzed about this offense but let’s wait a few weeks before we rush to judgement.

coach

March 5th, 2012
7:46 am

gotta tip your hat to the wind…….

Red Wolf

March 5th, 2012
8:01 am

Picking it up right where they left off in September – gonna be a long season

Larry

March 5th, 2012
8:19 am

“They still scored 18 runs, but I was thinking there were about four or five balls that on a normal day don’t go out,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said.”

If I didn’t know better, I’d swear that was a Bobby Cox quote. I’d say this team has taken on the personality of it’s manager: unabashed lethargy, indifference and spirit.

What I’d give to hear what Earl Weaver might say after a performance like that.

Donovan

March 5th, 2012
8:24 am

I am an optomist, but a pragmatic optomist. All this talk about how good our pitching is looks like something out of the Democrat’s playbook of propaganda.

Teheran and Delgado showed their conspicuous backsides in this game. Excuses and inflated kudos about these two don’t convince me that this team is going to make any concerted effort to improve their standings from last season.

The proof is in the pudding and we just got a taste of that pudding. Still early in the spring training? Yes, but look at the embarassing results of these over hyped pitchers.

Disco Stew

March 5th, 2012
8:34 am

We better hope they are not over hyped b/c one of them will be traded to for a bat. Exposing them as not ready for prime time will not be great for such a trade.

Richard

March 5th, 2012
8:47 am

Gotta say, FAIL. But Ross made some good points about pitch selection in the spring. You throw a 3-0, 2-0, 3-1 fastball down the middle to a major league hitter and it will be gone. This wouldn’t have been such a disaster in a regular season game.

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