On Bourn’s impact, Pastornicky’s arrival, full-squad start
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – As he put on his uniform for the Braves’ first full-squad workout of spring training Saturday morning, Martin Prado didn’t try to play it cool and act like it was just another day.
“Oh, man, I feel like a kid,” he said. “And I think when I’m not feeling that anymore, it’s time to quit.”
Michael Bourn (left) and Jason Heyward wait for their turns in the batting cage. (Jason Getz photo/AJC)
The memory of their 10-20 slide out of the wild card may linger with many outside the organization, but Braves players say they’ve moved forward and that the feeling in the clubhouse is as upbeat as its been in years.
“The page is turned,” catcher Brian McCann said as he slipped into his pulled on his cap and headed toward the field for the team. “Time to strap it on.”
(Let me take a timeout here, folks. Your Crusading Everyman would like you to know that I have strapped it on, so to speak, and subsisted for 11-13 hours per day at this Dark Star baseball facility the past week on nothing but gallons of coffee, small bags of peanuts, a few energy bars and cans of Red Bull. No other nourishment at all, as there is none available in the stadium and only overpriced mediocrity at the lone restaurant on the grounds. Oh, and I have to put out cigars upon entering. OK, carry on.)
♣ Bourn’s back: The Braves will open the season with a proven, speedy leadoff hitter for the first time since Rafael Furcal left after the 2005 season. But if you think that Michael Bourn’s presence alone is going to make that much of a difference, be careful.
If the Braves don’t get more production from key cogs in their lineup than they did for much of last season, then having baseball’s best base-stealer atop the batting order isn’t going to translate to significantly more wins.
Here’s how Chipper Jones sees it:
“He’s going to give us the ability to manufacture one run,” the third baseman said before camp opened. “Where we need to improve is the multi-run innings. We’ve got to have the guys who hit .300, hit .300. We’ve got to have the guys who hit the ball out of the ballpark, hit the ball out of the ballpark. We’ve got to have the guys who do both, do both.
“Michael Bourn can set the table and steal second, and Prado can move him over and I can drive him in with less than two outs. That’s manufacturing a run. But every once in a while you need the the big three-run homer to put the nail in the coffin, and it didn’t seem like we did a lot of that last season. We got a lot of solo home runs, which is the same thing as manufacturing one run, like what Michael Bourn provides us.”
This would be a good point for me, your blogmeister, to point out that those who use the axiom “speed never slumps” are only are half-correct. Because while speed might not slump, the hitter with the speed certainly can.
To wit, Bourn hit just .254 with a .295 OBP and seven RBIs in 30 games after Aug. 25, when the Braves went 10-20 to finish the season. He did have 14 steals in 16 attempts in that span. But also had 31 strikeouts against seven walks.
“He’s going to allow us to win a lot of 3-2 ballgames,” Chipper said. “Don’t get me wrong, it’s going to be nice having him. I enjoyed the amount of easy RBI opportunities that I got when he got here [in July 31 trade from Houston], for reasons I just explained: His ability to steal bases and be on third with less than two outs.
“Where we need to get better is the multi-run inning. We need to string things together. We need to have guys that are used to hitting .280, hit .280. You know?
“And if we all do that the offense will be great.”
♣ All eyes on Pastornicky: If Tyler Pastornicky had known that most Braves position players would be reporting so early to spring training this year, I’m pretty sure he’d have scheduled his trip to Jack Wilson’s house for a week earlier.
But just so everyone knows, that the kid got here later that the rest of the projected lineup was not a big deal with anyone on the team.
Tyler Pastornicky (right) chats with Matt Diaz (left) and Braves hitting coach Greg Walker. (Jason Getz photo/AJC)
When they scheduled the Feb. 18-23, neither Pastornicky nor the veteran Wilson knew so many Braves position players would be reporting at the same time as pitchers and catchers.
Or that the Braves would have their full coaching staff, along with some minor league instructors and special assistant, in uniform and ready to put the early arrivers through unofficial workouts.
Anyway, Pastornicky, 22, reported to camp Friday morning, the actual position-player reporting date, and went through a workout with the others. The first full-squad workout wasn’t till Saturday anyway.
“Not a big deal that he wasn’t here till now,” manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “He didn’t have to be here till [Saturday].”
His later-than-the-other-starters arrival was not a concern among Braves officials, who were pleased Wilson had befriended him when Pastornicky spent the final day of the 2011 season with the big club. Pastornicky was called up for the finale – he didn’t get in the game – because of Alex Gonzalez’s calf injury.
Coincidentally, it’s now the kid’s backup, Wilson, who now has a calf injury. The 34-year-old strained his right calf during one of the rigorous conditioning sessions with Pastornicky on Tuesday at Wilson’s home in Camarillo, Calif.
So anyway, some of you might have wondered what sort of facilities Wilson has at his home. All we had heard was he had a full, regulation infield built in his backyard.
Turns out, he’s got a lot more than that.
“Oh, yeah, he’s got quite the setup out there,” Pastornicky said. “It’s definitely a little boy’s dream out there. His son’s got it made, that’s for sure. He’s got kind of like a little league field, but he’s also got the regulation stuff for us out there. He’s got a great setup. Weight room, everything you can possibly need.”
Said Wilson: “It’s a full infield and basically I just put a fence behind it. So we do have my son’s team practices there.
“We’ve got a weight room, batting cage, everything you could possibly need.”
Wilson, a one-time All-Star and Silver Slugger with Pittsburgh, has seen his offensive numers slide in recent years but remains a slick defender. He’s also been cited as a consummate professional by teammates with the Pirates, Mariners and Braves, who got him late last season.
He spent a lot of time working with Pastornicky and techniques and showing him specific drills that could benefit him now and in the long term. Wilson also talked to him about approach, discipline, and just generally how to conduct himself as a young player.
Chipper Jones, soon to be 40, says he feels healthier this spring than he has in years.
They spent much of the days taking infield, and Wilson had friends – baseball people he knows – come over to hit them grounders and take throws at first base.
“We had a good time and got a lot of work done,” Wilson said. “It’s good to get that kind of private setting where you can really hammer at it, where I can really watch him. I told him, fielding is like your swing, it’s kind of your DNA. There’s nothing you want to change about somebody, it’s almost like you want to enhance it.
“And the things I’ve learned in my years from infield coaches, I kind of just passed them on to him. I’d tell him, there’s things I’ll tell you that might not work for you, just do whatever works for you. There were a couple of things he took on that he really liked, that we’ll continue to work on.”
Wilson worked alongside him for three-plus days last week before the veteran strained his right calf Tuesday. He said he made sure that Pastornicky still went through their scheduled drills Wednesday, while Wilson laid on the couch with his achy leg elevated.
Pastornicky flew with Wilson, his wife Julie and their three children from California to Florida on Thursday. The kids quickly grew attached to “Uncle Tyler” in California.
“He’s a great kid,” Wilson said. “I mean, my kids absolutely love the guy. For being a 22-year-old, not being married and being an only child in his family, he’s fantastic with kids. My son loves him, he was shooting basketball in the back with him.
“I’m really excited for his opportunity going to spring training. He’s going to have a bright future ahead of him, so I’m looking forward to see how he does this spring and gett this season started.”
Braves officials and players are saying all the right things to try to limit the pressure that Pastornicky might feel as a young lineup regular with no big-league experience.
“We want him to make all the routine plays and that’s it,” Gonzalez said. “We’re not looking for him to be in the ESPN highlights or hitting home runs. We’ve got plenty of other people that can carry the club. Just let him go out there and have fun, get his feet wet, mature and be a good major leaguer for a long time.”
♣ Quote of the day: “Our culture peculiarly honors the act of blaming, which it takes as the sign of virtue and intellect.” – Lionel Trilling, literary critic and author.
♣ Academy Awards bonus: OK, since the Oscars will be presented Sunday, here are my predictions in the biggest categories — who will and who should win.
Best Actress – Will win: Viola Davis, The Help. Should win: Michelle Williams, My Week With Marilyn.
Should be a big night at Oscars for The Artist.
Best Actor – Will win: Jean Dujardin, The Artist. Should win: Dujardin. (Actually, Michael Shannon should win for his tour-de-force turn in Take Shelter, but he’s not even nominated, and neither is the movie for Best Picture.)
Best Director – Will win: Michel Hazanaivicius, The Artist. Should win: Hazaivicious.
Best Picture – Will win: The Artist. Should win: The Artist. (Well, Take Shelter should win but as I mentioned, not nominated. How the H is Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close nominated and movies such as Take Shelter, Drive, My Weekend With Marilyn, Warrior and The Ides of March are not? Lame Oscars.)
♣ OK, let’s close with a classic tune by the great Guy Clark. You can hear Ryan Bingham do a terrific cover version by clicking here.
Ryan Bingham
“DUBLIN BLUES” by Guy Clark
I wish I was in Austin
In the Chili Parlour Bar
Drinkin’ Mad Dog Margaritas
And not carin’ where you are
But here I sit in Dublin
Just rollin’ cigarettes
Holdin’ back and chokin’ back
The shakes with every breath
Forgive me all my anger
Forgive me all my faults
There’s no need to forgive me
For thinkin’ what I thought
I loved you from the git go
I’ll love you till I die
I loved you on the Spanish steps
The day you said goodbye
I am just a poor boy
Work’s my middle name
If money was a reason
I would not be the same
I’ll stand up and be counted
I’ll face up to the truth
I’ll walk away from trouble
But I can’t walk away from you
I have been to Fort Worth
I have been to Spain
I have been to proud
To come in out of the rain
I have seen the David
I’ve seen the Mona Lisa too
I have heard Doc Watson
Play Columbus Stockade Blues
Forgive me all my anger
Forgive me all my faults
There’s no need to forgive me
For thinkin’ what I thought
I loved you from the git go
I’ll love you till I die
I loved you on the Spanish steps
The day you said goodbye
— by David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog
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eskippy
February 25th, 2012
1:08 pm
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braves4life
February 25th, 2012
1:09 pm
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David O'Brien
February 25th, 2012
1:14 pm
For second year in a row, Fredi had his team meeting in center field before first full-squad workout. This was 15 minutes ago:
http://twitpic.com/8oko14
nolie
February 25th, 2012
1:16 pm
pretty deep comments thar guys…..
George
February 25th, 2012
1:20 pm
Repost from old blog.
George
February 25th, 2012
1:14 pm
Wonderful, We have two NO GOOD SHORTSTOPS and one of them is hurt already. What a season this is going to be. FRANK you should have kept A-GON.
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
1:23 pm
And that, ladies and gentlemen and other life forms, human, subhuman, or otherwise, is EXACTLY why the Braves signed Jack Wilson.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
1:24 pm
getting close to play ball time
go braves
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
1:24 pm
Quote of the Day?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
1:26 pm
“Go Braves!”
David O'Brien
February 25th, 2012
1:28 pm
OK, just added a couple of things to the blog, for I had posted it without finishing it before. Please re-read. Sorry to do that to you.
George
February 25th, 2012
1:29 pm
Quote of the day
GO BRAVES!
TOMY FOURNIER
February 25th, 2012
1:32 pm
BRAVE’S….WHAT?????
nolie
February 25th, 2012
1:32 pm
hard to remember when Wilson actually could hit
hey I already said that George
Braveone
February 25th, 2012
1:33 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,368 comments, Lew led the way with 78 posts. There were 151 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 Lew 78
2 nolie 74
3 Tom O’Hawke 71
4 cabravesfan 62
5 VaBravesFan 53
6 Tomahawkin (The Godfather) 52
7 richbrave 40
8 MIBravesFan 38
9 Billy 35
10 David O’Brien 32
11 Ray 31
12 Venice Jim 29
13 ncgary 26
14 ncscoots 25
15 DAP 24
16 Anders 23
17 Jarryd 23
18 MiaBchBravesFan 22
19 RC 22
20 Murph 20
21 brian 19
22 Brava 18
23 Bravo_F 52 18
24 Ward 18
25 jeffrey d 18
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
1:34 pm
I’m slipping…
Sharkfinhat
February 25th, 2012
1:37 pm
All right, we may have to take up a collection and get some Antico’s delivered to DOB down there.
TexasBrave
February 25th, 2012
1:37 pm
So Dave since you obviously put your body through a lot during ST, do you have any pre-ST rituals to get yourself prepared for the daily grind?
George
February 25th, 2012
1:38 pm
Hope FREDI was jokeing about CHIPPER backing up PASTORNICKY at SS, CHIPPER does not have the range to play SS anymore, it will have to be MARTIN. We sure are thin at SS.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
1:40 pm
Hey hey, Lew is da man!
nolie
February 25th, 2012
1:41 pm
29? wow Venice Jim just fell apart under the pressure…….
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
1:41 pm
Manny Ramirez: I Found God During Retirement
nolie
February 25th, 2012
1:41 pm
I didn’t know God was lost
George
February 25th, 2012
1:47 pm
WOW I did not notice LEW is number 1. That is so fitting because LEW has always been number one in intelligents.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
1:51 pm
must have been on the la freeway nolie
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
1:51 pm
Thanks DOB
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
1:52 pm
maybe he took a wrong turn in malibu
nolie
February 25th, 2012
1:52 pm
yeah maybe summa them Kalifornia Heathens grid locked him
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
1:52 pm
Wow, 25th? I knew losing at home to The Godfather was going to drop me, but not this much.
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
1:53 pm
There is no freeway in Malibu.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
1:53 pm
Whoops…these are the intelligence ratings? I hope it’s not by IQ points….
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
1:53 pm
dookies and va tech tied at 55
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
1:54 pm
he turned off
George
February 25th, 2012
1:54 pm
DUKE in a heck of a game, could lose at home again. Sure hope not.
Fastball
February 25th, 2012
1:55 pm
Don’t count too quickly for good things from Bourne or Pastornicky. I just don’t see it.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
1:56 pm
duke down by 1, 48 seconds
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
1:57 pm
You don’t see good things from Bourn? Based on what??
nolie
February 25th, 2012
1:58 pm
terrible OBP he had in Atl
George
February 25th, 2012
1:58 pm
O.T.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
1:58 pm
va tech misses 2 shots at the buzzer
ot
George
February 25th, 2012
1:59 pm
Please do it DUKE.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:02 pm
who could root for a team called the dookies????
Soph
February 25th, 2012
2:02 pm
Duke’s going to win.
George
February 25th, 2012
2:03 pm
hopein so Soph
Soph
February 25th, 2012
2:04 pm
I’m hoping not.
George
February 25th, 2012
2:04 pm
up by 5
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:07 pm
VJ will be happy if they hang on
Soph
February 25th, 2012
2:07 pm
So many Plumlees.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:08 pm
if the only thang you are good in is bouncyball then you might as well not be good in anythang IMHO…..
jim
February 25th, 2012
2:08 pm
It seems like Chipper has penciled himself in to the 3 hole already. If the Braves are to contend, Heyward will have to return to the form he showed before the thumb injury in 2010 and Freeman will have to at least duplicate his rookie year numbers. If that is the case, the best lineup would be:
Bourn, Prado, Heyward, Uggla, Freeman, Jones, McCann, Pastor, Pitcher. It keeps right left balance and groups the speedier guys (with wrap around). If Heyward can put up 280, 25, 100, 825 OPS with 15+ SB or better, these are numbers Chipper can no longer attain, but are needed in the 3 hole (I will not argue with those who would swap Freeman and McCann, but like this lineup better predicated on the initial assumptions.)
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:08 pm
PLUMLEES! And there is another one…
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:10 pm
bah, all the millions of different permutations amount to about a one or two game difference over a season and no way to know which one that will be……
Soph
February 25th, 2012
2:11 pm
Duke’s been winning these close ones so they’ll likely continue the trend.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:12 pm
Go dookies!
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
2:12 pm
Josh Hamilton in 2013….
So after Hamilton had a relapse 3 weeks ago, the Rangers broke off contract talks with him. He’s going to make $13.75M this year and then become a free agent. Hamilton is a LF…
So IF Chipper retires after this year, and his $13M comes off the books, and Prado moves from LF to his more natural position of 3B, might the Braves make a serious run at Hamilton?
Maybe.
Or what if Chipper can’t stay healthy enough early in 2012 and it is obvious that he won’t play enough games to vest his 2013 option… and what if the Yu Darvish experiment is a bust in Texas, and the Rangers collapse… would they consider trading away Hamilton’s remaining 2 or 3 months in exchange for a couple of Braves pitching prospects? (The Braves hopefully making a contract extension a part of the trade deal.)
Two months of Hamilton’s 2012 contract would cost about $4.5M and its been reported that the Braves have about $4M available to spend on payroll.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
2:13 pm
ballgame dookies win
Soph
February 25th, 2012
2:13 pm
Boo nolie.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:14 pm
Texas is rated the #1 team to have the best future over the next 5 years, they are not gonna trade away talent over one poor season if it does happen.
No way the Braves invest in hamilton even if he is available and they have the funds. too unsafe an investment for them
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:16 pm
sorry Soph, I was just seeing what it felt like to root for a dookie. kinda left a funny taste in my mouth
jim
February 25th, 2012
2:16 pm
If Hamilton is such a risk that Texas has no interest in resigning him, why should the Braves want him? With their overall payroll they can’t afford to pay D Lowe money or more to a guy that could flame out and be a much bigger burden than Lowe ever was — and that burden became huge last year and again this.
Largo
February 25th, 2012
2:18 pm
The braves are doing a lot of hoping and wishing. It sounds like Bourn is their savior with his speed … least they think so. But, he can’t steal first base. They have the same old offense as before or I should say, the same old lack of offense. What a bunch of crap they’re feeding the fans.
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:18 pm
Hamilton’s inability to stay healthy makes me very concered- would be very hard to commit a large sunk long term to someone who’s body is so fragile. There is no doubt his talent is special, but the risk is just too high
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:18 pm
I won’t be too surprised if Texas re-signs him if he stays clean and has another great season
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
2:18 pm
dookey 70
va tech 65
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:19 pm
*sum, not sunk
George
February 25th, 2012
2:20 pm
thier is another Plumlee redshirting
George
February 25th, 2012
2:21 pm
DUKE! DUKE! DUKE!
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:21 pm
Hamilton might be onea them rich-get-richer guys. Only a well off team can afford the risk and if he produces for them he is a bid help
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:21 pm
Hamilton might be onea them rich-get-richer guys. Only a well off team can afford the risk and if he produces for them he is a big help
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
2:22 pm
Nolie,
If the Rangers are having a bad season and it becomes apparent that Hamilton wants more $ than they are willing to pay over the next 6 or so years, AND they can trade him away in return for some top pitching prospects, I definitely think they would do it. They’ve done it before, with the Braves no less.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:22 pm
hmm. not sure that was worth repeating again right away..
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:22 pm
I’m sorta bummed PLUMLEE the Youngest is redshirting. I love the idea of an all PLUMLEE front court. I could drive VJ crazy with all the PLUMLEES.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
2:24 pm
@Jim…
Chipper is the 3 Hole Hitter By Default…Because he’s Chipper
but I would like to see him hit 2nd a few games when Martini doesn’t start in LF…He knows how to work counts and let The Bourne Identity do his Thang on the bases…
But I dunno, I’m not Bobby Lite
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:24 pm
yeah it could possibly happen, but what they did and the place that they were with the Braves trade is nothing like their current situation at all.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:26 pm
Chipper hit worse in second slot last season than in just about any other
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
2:26 pm
jim,
In Hamilton’s 5 year career he has a .909 OPS, two World Series appearances, and and MVP award. That’s hardly a burden.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
2:27 pm
For Lew, in honor of his last blog ranking…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fHtUfbqtm4&feature=related
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
2:27 pm
Bayou Brave
L. Media is Cheap…
What Makes you think that they would want to pursue a Big Free Agent OF when we can’t even sign Michael Bourn?
Assuming that Bourn walks The Braves will go Cheap next offseason and trade for Slop like Seth Smith or someone else of his caliber…or settle for a OF Hitting prospect once they trade both Big Red and Double J. That Timeframe is ticking between now and next March…
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:28 pm
Hamilton has also missed 221 games over the last 5 years.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
2:28 pm
sorry Soph, I was just seeing what it felt like to root for a dookie. kinda left a funny taste in my mouth
Well when you root for a team, you’re not supposed to taste them
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
2:29 pm
I meant to say what makes you think that the braves are gonna go after Josh Hamiliton or any other Big Name Free Agent OF when we can’t even sign Michael Bourn…?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
2:29 pm
and has played more than 138 or so games just once IIRC, usually less than that. the guy is definitely a risk, in both health and drug related
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
2:31 pm
cabravesfan
“Hamilton has also missed 221 games over the last 5 years.”
Co-Sign…
Hamiliton is an injury risk at the High Roller Money he makes now…Thats why I’m not Lusting for him
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
2:31 pm
cabravesfan,
I agree, Hamilton gets hurt a lot. But he is one helluva player when he is healthy. Over the last 2 years he has averaged 127 games, 503 ABs, 88 Runs, 29 HRs, 97 RBIs, .329 Avg, .379 OBP, .585 Slg
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:31 pm
Played 121 last year
133 in 2010
89 in 2009
156 in 2008
90 in 2007
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:33 pm
Bayou Brave-
He certainly is extremely gifted. But he’s hurt way to much to invest a large long term deal in AND his body is going to continue to break done due to his past. Just not a wise way to spend money.
George
February 25th, 2012
2:36 pm
LEW does not know yet how good he did. Think it is a first for him.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
2:37 pm
He’s probably out celebrating the accomplishment with his family
George
February 25th, 2012
2:39 pm
Good one jeffery.
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
2:39 pm
Tomahawkin,
According to another article on this website, the Braves earn about $200 million in revenue each year, and only barely make a profit. It also states that Liberty Media believes they have an large unrealized capital gain in owning the Braves. Which means Liberty Media reinvests its Braves revenue back into the Braves organization in the hopes that the value of the organization will grow and become worth more.
So, no I don’t think Liberty Media is cheap. I think they are unemotional investors.
And if the Braves know that they won’t be paying Chipper next year and won’t be paying Lowe $10M to play for another team next year, then they will have enough money to pay someone like Hamilton.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
2:42 pm
Largo
“The braves are doing a lot of hoping and wishing. It sounds like Bourn is their savior with his speed … least they think so. But, he can’t steal first base. They have the same old offense as before or I should say, the same old lack of offense. What a bunch of crap they’re feeding the fans.”
And Attendance is gonna take a big hit this year, Watch!
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
2:43 pm
money wisely spent somewhere else bb
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
2:43 pm
cabravesfan,
What is a wiser way to spend that money? Won’t the Braves; #1 need be a LF and/or a CF either next year or 2014?
LAG
February 25th, 2012
2:43 pm
I’m not surprised we lost to Duke. I am, however, surprised we hung around that long.
Anyway…
1) I put $1 on Hicks making the Opening Day roster with Wilson going down.
2) Someone of Hamilton’s caliber would be an ideal pickup for LF. But like many have said, Hamilton himself has shown to be injury-prone, and we already have a few of those…
3) We’re a little thin on top OF prospects, it seems.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
2:44 pm
@BayouBrave
“So, no I don’t think Liberty Media is cheap. I think they are unemotional investors.”
Co-Sign and Good Point…And They like “Making Money Honey!” at the fans expense in which they don’t care abt the fans…Thats my biggest beef with those turds
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
2:44 pm
ncgary,
Where?
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
2:46 pm
Bayou Brave-
It would be wiser to spend money on someone that is not such an injury risk. If I am investing $20+ million a year in a marquee player for 7+ years, I want that player to average more than 117 games a year.
Zing
February 25th, 2012
2:48 pm
It’s not a matter of “can’t even sign Michael Bourn.” I think Bourn is going to be overpaid, and the Braves can’t afford to overpay. Hamilton, if he’s healthy, on the other hand, is worth the big money.
Buckeye Brave
February 25th, 2012
2:48 pm
Maybe I’m crazy, but I expect the Braves to give the Philthies all they can handle this season. I think we’ll make a run at 95 wins. That’s only 6 more wins than last year with that terrible offense and no Tommy and JJ for most of the 2nd half. Yep, 95 wins is not an unreasonable expectation.
Zing
February 25th, 2012
2:49 pm
But with the Braves’ payroll, there’s no way there going to pursue somebody like Hamilton anyway, so it’s all moot.
Zing
February 25th, 2012
2:52 pm
*they’re
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
2:53 pm
We can all speculate about the Rooster but come Sept 15 it will look nothing like the the team we broke camp with…
So I’m stsrting to think that the stat specualtion from the position players can get pointless unless its a rookie…And I don’t take much out of the So Called experts Prospects rankings
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
2:55 pm
But with the Braves’ payroll, there’s no way there going to pursue somebody like Hamilton anyway, so it’s all moot.
Except when you consider Lowe’s $10 million and Chipper’s salary might be off the books
Zing
February 25th, 2012
2:55 pm
You do have to wonder who’s going to be in the outfield next year, though. I think Bourn is clearly not going to be re-signed, though the Braves could prove me wrong. (I hope not, because, as I said, I think he’s going to be overpaid). So you’ll have Heyward and who else (with Prado presumably moved to 3B)? Should be interesting… much more active offseason than the recently completed one, that’s for sure!
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
2:56 pm
Zing
“It’s not a matter of “can’t even sign Michael Bourn.” I think Bourn is going to be overpaid, and the Braves can’t afford to overpay. Hamilton, if he’s healthy, on the other hand, is worth the big money.”
Hamilition is a BIG IF…We Have too many of those on the team as it stands, Pass…
We Can’t afford another 15 mill “If” kind of player.
Blowe and Borash0loe taught us that lesson
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
3:01 pm
Its NOT Gonna Happen but The Team would be wise to offer Bourne a 3-33mill deal…No more Years or Money…L Media will want to do a 3-22 Mill deal, They are that Cheap
And Boras$h0!e will demand 5-60 Mill, Watch! So The Bourne Identity will go elsewhere because he got Low-balled according to his Agent
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
3:04 pm
There is a possibility that the Braves will have some cash to spend in 2013.
2012 contracts compared to 2013 contracts:
Dan Uggla’s $13M remains the same
Chipper’s $13M could be gone or could be as low as $7M
McCann’s $11.5M becomes $12M
Hudson’s $9M remains the same, assuming they pick up his option
Bourn’s $7M comes off the books, unless they sign him to a long-term deal
Lowe’s $10 exit fee comes off the books
Everybody else will probably get an Arb increase
Ray
February 25th, 2012
3:07 pm
I am guessing that Boras is going to try and work is magic on Bourn for a bit more than 60m in a 5 yr span. Bourn for 12m a year I think is a good deal for both. However if Bourn signs with someone else for around 14-15m a year the Braves will get ripped. Bourn IMO is not worth 14-15m a year.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:07 pm
over the last 5 years in the middle of what should be the healthiest part of his life he has made 35+ Chipper look like an irinman, he will likely only get worse as he ages, and there is always the addiction issue the could strike anytime out of the blue and wreck havoc with his career. as I said at the beginning he is a player for a well off team
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:09 pm
no matter how much cash they have it is too much of a risk, especially for a team that has turned into a “plat it safe” team for the last three years
richbrave
February 25th, 2012
3:10 pm
nolie:
Check. Forgot ASENCIO and MARTINEZ are both out of options.
So the bull-pen will be O’FLAHERTY, VENTERS, KIMBREL, MEDLEN, MARTINEZ, ASENCIO, and FISH if he comes through in ST. Otherwise…….VIZCAINO, or VARVARO.
So who wants to pick the fifth, sixth, and seventh pen members right now?
I say because of the lack of options and because of handiness:
5 – MARTINEZ
6 – ASENCIO
7 – FISH
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:11 pm
I would never give Bourn 12mil, he is not a good hitter (88 OPS+ career) and his steals and defense is not worth that kinda money to a team with limited resourses
richbrave
February 25th, 2012
3:11 pm
And I’m always right, so give it up already.
richbrave
February 25th, 2012
3:12 pm
Heh!
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:12 pm
I think Viz will definitely be in the pen
Ray
February 25th, 2012
3:12 pm
Hamilton is one of my favorite players and yes would love to see him in a Braves uni, but he is way too big of a risk with his injury history and the dollars its going to take to sign him. Money can be spent on other players with more upside and less risk.
richbrave
February 25th, 2012
3:15 pm
Who wants to bet LUIS DURANGO, JOSH WILSON, or DREW SUTTON makes the 25-man out of spring training? DIAZ cut, or HICKS released?
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
3:15 pm
Just playing devil’s advocate here, but Hamilton has won an MVP. He also out-homered all Braves except Uggla, out-RBI’d all Braves, out-Runs’d all Braves, and out-OPS’d all Braves by 65 points
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
3:15 pm
….last year
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
3:17 pm
Honestly Bourn is not Worth more than 10 Mill but the Roid era is Over and Cheap 30 Homerun Hitters don’t Grow on trees like they did from 1996-2004
Speed and Defense are at a Premium now thats why Bourne is Gonna get “Broke Off” in a contract that is well above what he should make per diem…
Ditto for Carl Crawford…No way he Gets a 150 Mill Contract if he played in the Peak of the roid era…Where the Money went to the Pure Sluggers
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:18 pm
I will be surprised if Fish makes it. I know they would like another LHer but his MiLB career has been extremely mediocre
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
3:18 pm
Bourn’s agent is Boras. Hamilton’s agent is Moye. Both are ruthless.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
3:19 pm
jeffrey d
“Just playing devil’s advocate here, but Hamilton has won an MVP. He also out-homered all Braves except Uggla, out-RBI’d all Braves, out-Runs’d all Braves, and out-OPS’d all Braves by 65 points”
Good Point but at the same time he played in The American League where there is inferior pitching overall and The DH…
Hamiliton stats would fall off hitting in the NL
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:20 pm
Sutton maybe.
Diaz not cut
Durango or Constanza but prolly not both…at least i certainly hope not both
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
3:21 pm
@jeffery d
And he did that in only 121 games. When he plays he is a beast. And he plays enough games overall to put up great numbers and lead his team deep into the playoffs.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:22 pm
not questioning hamilton’s ability, just his worth to the Braves vis a vis his health and addiction problems. he has really missed an awful lot of games so far for a kid. it ain’t likely to get anything but worse
richbrave
February 25th, 2012
3:22 pm
1 vote for VIZ in, FISH out.
And thinking GEORGE SHERRILL’s replacement, let’s not forget FLANDE. He might surprise to the upside this spring and be a third LH option out of the pen.
richbrave
February 25th, 2012
3:24 pm
“………Durango or Constanza but prolly not both…at least i certainly hope not both……..” nolie
You and me both.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
bayou i haven’t been scouting around but hamilton isn’t the answer for this cheap payroll,
they need an undiscovered bryce harper type
Ray
February 25th, 2012
3:27 pm
Toma, I agree with you in regards to Bourn and his worth. I was being realistic as far as what he will get. And of course everyone can cry how chip LM is for the Braves not signing Bourn to 14-15m a year.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:28 pm
or we could cry how incredibly stupid they were for signing him to a 14-15 mil contract
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
3:29 pm
Who wants a player who routinely hits .275/.325/.375 and plays 160 games? I want a guy that is two years removed from .359/.411/.633 in 133 games.
Take a risk. It might work, it might not, but it will be exciting. The Braves already have plenty of safe players.
And I’m talking about Hamilton effectively replacing Chipper, so it’s not like we would have both of their injury risk factors at the same time.
Kyle
February 25th, 2012
3:29 pm
Not trying to be rude or question the legitimacy of your work DOB, but what exactly are you doing that takes 11-13 hours a day? Your articles are great, but it’s hardly 11-13 hour stuff.
Zing
February 25th, 2012
3:31 pm
Sounds like we have some consensus on Bourn’s worth… don’t get me wrong, he’s a good, solid player, and defensively it’s good to see him out there. But I’m a Moneyballer on the stolen bases– I think they are hugely overrated, and that’s his big statistical asset. He doesn’t have a great OBP and isn’t a slugger, so– where’s the value? Speed, which should get you some but not the big bucks, in my opinion. (Sounds like Chipper agrees with that assessment, incidentally, based on his quotes).
Zing
February 25th, 2012
3:32 pm
I agree, by the way, Tomahawkin– I think Hamilton is too much of a risk, though he’s definitely a premier talent. Braves can’t swing and miss like the Yankees or Boston, though.
iopbrave
February 25th, 2012
3:32 pm
If Chip is not back next year- “Terd” will be 2013’s rookie and man 3rd- hopefully for a long time- Martin will stay put in lf – Martin’s outfield defense should be improved after last season in left
Lew
February 25th, 2012
3:33 pm
George – Yeah, I rarely come in first in posts – it’s usually those insomniacs on the West Coast and their Sidekick Tom.
I guess that sometime in the course of the eight seasons (starting #8), it was bound to happen.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
3:34 pm
i’m borrowing this contract issue from another poster but for bourn , i agree that 38 million 4 year guaranteed is most id go, with team option for 12 million or 2 million buyout. 5 year 50 million deal.
take it or leave
Bayou Brave
February 25th, 2012
3:34 pm
ncgary, so you don’t think the Braves will spend the $10M (Lowe), $13M* (Chipper), $7M (Bourn) coming off the books in 2013? You want/expect payroll to drop by as much as $30M? Arbitration raises won’t come close to $30M, maybe $10M. Plus, Terry McGuirk has already said that the Braves are $4M underbudget this year.
So that’s up to $34M available in 2013.
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
3:34 pm
Nolie is not on the west coast
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:36 pm
Lew is kinda like the Adam of the blog, one of it’s earliest creations…
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 25th, 2012
3:37 pm
Bourn isn’t an elite player. He shouldn’t be paid like one.
That said, enjoy him while he’s here, he’s still a really valuable player.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
3:39 pm
hard to say bb still a lot of baseball to be played between then and now.
hamilton is good , you are right , but with liberty at the helm
i don’t see it happening
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:39 pm
they just said the other day that the Braves are losing 6 mil this year right now, pretty unlikely they are gonna spend another 4 yet this season. and i do indeed expect the payroll to go down some next season, everything else about the Braves spending is doing so, like draft spending and not sending out MLB scouts anymore.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 25th, 2012
3:40 pm
I still wouldn’t rule Bourn being a Brave for more than just one more season. It depends on what they get from Heyward this season. If he is back then they won’t feel the need to get a slugger this offseason. Pitching is set for years. They could spend a good chunk to keep MB around.
Ray
February 25th, 2012
3:40 pm
nolie, I will take all of the LM bashing for being cheap and not paying him big dollars than strapping them down for a huge amount.
David O'Brien
February 25th, 2012
3:40 pm
Kyle, you have no idea whata beat writer’s job entails in the Internet era. Including the hours spent waiting in the clubhouse for an interview or on the field watching workouts, taking Twitpics at workouts, transcribing a lot of interviews to be used for daily stories now and features later, etc., in addition to the time spent actually writing.
But I really don’t feel the need or desire to giving you a minute-by-minute accounting of my work day down here. Suffice to say, it begins at 6:30 a.m. with me online answering questions, checking around baseball and doing research for articles before heading to the ballpark at 7:30 a.m. (Except for two days this week when I got up at 4 a.m. to write a main blog before going to the ballpark.) I have left this ballpark to go back to the condo each day for the past week between 7 p.m. and 8 p.m.
If you think any portion of that day is spent doing something other than working here, then you obviously haven’t been to ESPN’s Wide World of Sports. Because there isn’t anything else we’d be doing here except working. After I get back to the condo, I generally do another hour or two online, answering questions on Twitter or on my own blog, when there are good ones.
Now enjoy your weekend, Kyle.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
3:42 pm
ideally , i think another 10 million added to payroll this year along with the 4 million they haven’t spent yet, would have been enough to make a lot less question marks this year. who knows though. if the question marks stay healthy and have career norm years or better ,
this could be the year……..:)
Lew
February 25th, 2012
3:43 pm
nolie – There were bunches here before me – I’m pretty sure I was here pretty soon after it started, but not sure when it did start (I was here around July of 05). Scoots and some of the Lost Posters were here before me, though.
When did DOB’s handiwork first show up here in blogland?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:43 pm
yeah me too Ray, just stating what i think is pretty obvious, funds are limited and big risks are not gonna be taken.
Brian just because the might have extra money is no reason to overspend on a player more than his value.
CB
February 25th, 2012
3:45 pm
nolie,fuzzy math by the accountants can make any enterprise a loser.
DiamondJim
February 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
DOB – don’t even bother answering idiots like Kyle. Don’t know why anyone like him even bothers to read the blog.
Thanks for the GREAT work and info that you pass along to all of us who really are Braves fans.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
yeah The Lost Posters, I remember some of that but I was just reading at the time.
most prolly don’t think so at all
ah DOB, you’re not all THAT big a jackball……
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
dob
thanks for putting up with all us quirky people.
oh the humanity of it all
go braves
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:48 pm
I don’t think fuzzy math has all that much to do with it CB, but i could be wrong though God knows it would be an unusual experience for me………
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
3:48 pm
Lew, sent you a Bad Co link on page one..
speaking of the beginning, I was there, back when toes were not to be trifled with..
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:49 pm
good question Lew, maybe David will remind us what the date of his first blog was
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
3:49 pm
Braves should offer Bourn a 5 year 50 million deal with a Option for a 6th season. That’s a rock solid offer to atleast show us fans they did try to extend him.
DS1
February 25th, 2012
3:49 pm
DOB epitomizes the phrase that I am fond of: “Don’t worry about the mule, just load the wagon!”
Keep up the great work buddy!
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
3:51 pm
2002
About David O’Brien
David O’Brien is a Greenville, N.C., native and a graduate of the University of Kansas. He’s covered major league baseball since 1995, as a Marlins beat writer for seven years at the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, and since 2002 as Braves beat writer for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution
CB
February 25th, 2012
3:51 pm
nolie,God knows you lie a lot. LOL
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
any bloggers going to the supercross tonight?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
I like to run my mouth and poke no doubt, but anybody who seriously believes that DOB is nothing special is a total Robert-level nut-job
Lew
February 25th, 2012
3:53 pm
Blog Monitor – Thanks – actually got to see two versions of Bad Co. over the years – first time in MIami, Kansas blew them off the stage and the second – in St. Pete was after a rock and roll exhibition of my paintings at a Damn Yankees/ Bad Co. show. Paul Rodgers was not with them the second time.
You ever get into a band called Dirty Looks? Been listening a lot to them lately.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
3:53 pm
What happened to Robert? And willieg? And Mitchell?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:53 pm
not me CB, I is a truthtalker
Jeffrey, thanks for that date. I was not aware that it was quite that long ago
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
3:54 pm
no offense to the bench players
but that does look like the glaring weakness this team faces
heres hoping i’m wrong and they all have career years
DS1
February 25th, 2012
3:54 pm
nolie
Amen………
Lew
February 25th, 2012
3:54 pm
jeffrey d – I’m not sure he started the blog that far back.
ColoradoBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
3:55 pm
So, If Liberty Media counted Lowe’s $10M salary against last year’s profit and loss… doesn’t that mean we should have that $10M free to spend this season?
Lowe’s $10M and and the $4-5M being held, we could have gotten a better 4th OFer than Durango or Costanza. Maybe a Cody Ross. That would have made the bench much stronger.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:55 pm
they are just waiting for things to be bad so they can be happy whining on the ol’ blog.jeffrey
Bravo_F 52
February 25th, 2012
3:55 pm
DOB you are not a jackball NTTAWWT
CB
February 25th, 2012
3:55 pm
Did DOB start the blog in 2002?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:56 pm
I too think that right now on paper anyway that the bench is weakest part of the team
Ray
February 25th, 2012
3:56 pm
DOB, well put. Nolie, yeah I have said a few times when teams have the payrolls of the Yankees or Phils, you can make a mistake. So what. Teams like the Braves and others, have to make sure their signings are more careful. It can be the difference of them contending for years or spiraling down for a few.
CB
February 25th, 2012
3:57 pm
Robert and Mitchell have made appearances recently.
Couch Tater
February 25th, 2012
3:58 pm
Somebody send O’Brien a sammich before I develop anordyslexia nirvana.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
3:58 pm
Lowe’s pay is still an operating expense this year that must fit into this years budget. which effectively means that the actual Braves payroll will be 10mil under the budget
Moe Berg
February 25th, 2012
3:58 pm
A NYT nostalgia piece about the mediocre 1969 Yankees–The Damned Yankees: The Yankees of Mediocrity Had Their Own Strange Charisma
CB
February 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
Colorado,they will probably count it again this year. You know,fuzzy math.
DS1
February 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
I started on the blog during the off season of 2005/2006. I have heard that it was started a couple of years earlier. And in the beginning, wasn’t there a charge for entry?
On another subject, I LOVE the Nutrisystem commercial with Terry Bradshaw! “Ain’t I purty!”
Tomas
February 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
DOB I’d pay to have you’re job, baseball all day, discussions etc…..but you have to really like it
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:00 pm
Did DOB start the blog in 2002?
Did we even have the internet back in? Were blogs just us mailing in comments?
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
4:02 pm
ncgary
Correct biggest weakness is the bench. Jack Wilson is already hurt and only has defensive value. Hinske hit like 190. last season as a pinch hitter, struck out a ton and is a statue in the outfield, Diaz has lost his power and seen his OPS drop 2 season’s in a row and is a singles hitter vs LHP.
CB
February 25th, 2012
4:02 pm
jeffrey,I am old enough to remember when computers were big as houses.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:03 pm
Lew, never heard of Dirty Looks, who is in the band?
Unfortunately I never got to see Bad Company..
Did see Kansas several times though, saw them with Aerosmith, and Ted Nugent, many, many years ago.. they were great..
JerseyGil
February 25th, 2012
4:03 pm
DOB: is my opinion that you don’t have to give a play by play of yours job duty to us…you always been doing a great job for us for so many year since you came from Miami….Always love you posting and info of the Braves.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:03 pm
internet as we know it with commercial traffic started in mid 90s
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:06 pm
Blog Monitor – They’ve been together since the eighties and have a list of people – none of whom I’ve ver heard of. Straight out rock and roll, hard but not particularly metal or that heavy – maybe like hard punk, but really good.
I had a CD of theirs from years ago called Cool To The Wire and thought they were a two cd band and out, but just found out that they’re still going strong. They’re worth a listen.
DS1
February 25th, 2012
4:06 pm
jeffrey
When did Al Gore invent the internet? I thought that was in the 80’s?
I actually worked on some early computer systems at UC Berkeley’s Library card catalog system that was an early version of the internet. That was roughly in 1980. Not sure if this was before or after the TCP/IP era began?
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
February 25th, 2012
4:06 pm
Enter your comments here
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:07 pm
I remember when a phone call would kill your internet connection then you’d have to wait through 5 minutes of EEEEEEEEEEEEYONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!! before getting back on.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
February 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
Dial up was wonderful….NOT.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
in ‘65 I programmed for a 1401, had 4K memory on a huge circuit board and was about as big as a VW.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
February 25th, 2012
4:09 pm
This would be a good point for me, your blogmeister, to point out that those who use the axiom “speed never slumps” are only are half-correct. Because while speed might not slump, the hitter with the speed certainly can.
>>>>>>>>>
Pretty much correct. Doesn’t do the team any good when your lead off hitter can’t get on base. Nobody can steal first. Bourn should rectify our lack of lead off ability in recent years.
Webster
February 25th, 2012
4:09 pm
Please no Josh Hamilton. Talented player for sure. Big questions not only his health, but his chances of relapse, which hopefully will not happen.
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:09 pm
Blog Monitor – I’ve been lucky – saw Kansas at least seven times and actually met their violinist, Robbie Steinhardt several times – he lived in the St. Pete/Clearwater are for years (still does as far as I know). Last time I saw him we talked before a Jethro Tull show in Clearwater. Nice Dude.
Steve Tyler bought one of my rocka and roll paintings.
DS1
February 25th, 2012
4:10 pm
CB
The communications processors I worked on back in 1979 with NCR-Comten were as large as a couple of fridge’s strapped together. The earlier systems had 64K of memory spread over 10 memory boards. I repaired to the chip level back in those days. Probably had 20-30 memory chips to account for that 64K of memory.
We’re not in Kansas anymore, Toto!
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy
February 25th, 2012
4:10 pm
DOB is cranky.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:10 pm
B4 around ‘95 the “internet” was very limited with no commercial traffic
DS1
February 25th, 2012
4:13 pm
Later…………
Ray
February 25th, 2012
4:13 pm
I don’t think DOB is cranky. I think he is allergic to ignorance and stupidity.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:14 pm
Lew, their violinist was great, it is one of the things I still remember ahout their shows..
I know you have seen alot of good bands over the years.. My fave would still have to be Thin Lizzy..
One band I would have given anything to see, was Rainbow, in the early days with Dio, do have all their live stuff though..
talking about the internet, logged on in 95…
CB
February 25th, 2012
4:15 pm
Ray,probably why he doesn’t hang around here as much.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
February 25th, 2012
4:15 pm
My first computer was a Vendex 8088. Had those huge five inch floppy’s. About all it could do was run DOS and play donkey Kong and Pacman by inserting the floppy’s.
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:17 pm
I saw Thin Lizzy open for Queen in Hollywood, Fl back during the Day At The Races Tour. That was a great show never to be seen ever again with Freddie Mercury and Phil Lynott both gone.
Never saw Rainbow, but did see Deep Purple with Blackmore – also saw them with Tommy Bolin and with Stever Morse on guitar. Never saw them with Satriani finishing Blackmore’s last tour, though
JerseyGil
February 25th, 2012
4:17 pm
Wow Coach…i thought i was old…..Thanks for those memory
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:17 pm
I’d hate it if people who have little idea of what goes on most of the time criticized my profession too.
Oh wait…people do that all the time
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:18 pm
8088, with what 360k of RAM?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:18 pm
huge Thin Lizzie fan, a shame they are not in the R&R HOF. liked Kansas a lot too
Bravo_F 52
February 25th, 2012
4:18 pm
Blog mon I saw rainbow with Dio in the fox Krocus opened Sraight between the eyes It was awesome four way King Tut awesome
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:18 pm
I enjoyed listening to my CTRON 800 growing up
1eyedJack
February 25th, 2012
4:19 pm
“No other nourishment at all, as there is none available in the stadium and only overpriced mediocrity at the lone restaurant on the grounds.” DOB
Surely DOB, the AJC can afford to spring for a rental car.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
February 25th, 2012
4:19 pm
Been online since 1991….can’t believe twenty years have gone by already with PC’s.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:19 pm
beats 4K in VW size anyday
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:21 pm
Lew, I saw Thin Lizzy in Reading England, never got to see them here in the US, always something bad happened to cancel their tours here..
Did see Black Sabbath with Dio though, their Heaven and Hell tour.. also saw them with the Black and Blue tour, with Blue Oyster Cult…
just don’t have those quality of bands anymore..
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:21 pm
What were people doing online in 1991? Playing Q-Bert?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:21 pm
ARPANET or NSFNET coach?
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
February 25th, 2012
4:22 pm
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:18 pm
8088, with what 360k of RAM?
>>>>>
I honestly don’t remember. Of course that was before I figured out how to tear computers apart and upgrade them.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:22 pm
I wonder if in this new age newspapers are making more or less money. I mean…I read it for free. I know they make a lot of money off advertisements but don’t know if that’s more or less than the subscriptions lost
Bravo_F 52
February 25th, 2012
4:22 pm
Once whilst playing in FLA this dude got on stage and sang with me for an hour when we took a break I said You can sing your — off he said I just got off the Road I said who with He said Kansas That dude could sing
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:23 pm
well you said 1991, so IIRC ARPANET was already decommissioned
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:23 pm
Are you guys just all-capping letters and adding numbers at the end? I feel like some of you more wise bloggers are just playing a game
cowdogit
February 25th, 2012
4:24 pm
After Lowe, I don’t think the braves are going anywhere near a player with a drinking problem.Forget Hamilton.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:24 pm
Nolie, there are a lot of good bands that should be in the R&R hall of shame but aren’t, it’s a joke..
Thin Lizzy, Rush, Heart, Deep Purple, KISS, just to name a few..
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
February 25th, 2012
4:25 pm
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:21 pm
ARPANET or NSFNET coach?
>>>>>>>>>>>
I dunno, I was in the military at the time. They had some sort of intranet networked around the world. We had a BBS board up and running back in 1991. I could chat with other military folks all around the globe. Come to think of it, the system was the precursor to today’s modern blogs.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:25 pm
oh c’mon Jeffrey nobody here is all that much wiser than you are, and you can sing too
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:25 pm
Blog Monitor – There’s still some good ones out there if you get into hard rock. The new Lillian Axe cd is good and there are some European rockers like Cornerstone, Tarot, Ram and a bunch of others you’d probably like.
Some old favorites like Europe are back and got much heavier and harder and less pop – they’ve put out some good stuff the past several years.
George Lynch is playing with Lizzy Borden and Dokken went and got heavier, too, though Don Dokken will always be a pop star at heart.
Molly Hatchet still puts out some good saouthern rock every year or two, as well..
Stinger2
February 25th, 2012
4:26 pm
DOB: Thanks for the great info. you and Carroll provide about the Braves. I like some others have said, suggest you disregard posts like the one Kyle made.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:26 pm
I know, but I used wise as a nice way of saying something else
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:26 pm
first PC I used was in 85 I believe, they weren’t much at the time…
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:27 pm
KISS has more Gold Albums than any other American band, 28 I believe
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
4:28 pm
next week
same bat channel
same bat station
we get to hear play ball
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
4:28 pm
If I’m Not Mistaking…?
The Blog started around May of 2005…?
Because If I remember correctly…? The Blog wasn’t around for the 2004 NLDS, The One Where Chris Reeksma Imploded against The Astros who had Carlos Blowtran show Out on us?
iopbrave
February 25th, 2012
4:28 pm
Hamilton played A ball here in Charleston SC- he was and is an incredible player but Braves tend to shy away from those who have strayed or are controversial – maybe Sheffield was the exception- hopefully Hamilton can be strong and hold off his demons
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:28 pm
I’ve always wondered why ABBA should be in the Rock and Roll HOF and Deep Purple isn’t. Makes no sense.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:28 pm
I don’t think anybody was making stuff up
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
4:28 pm
Before The Blog All there was on here was The Vent and old TBS
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
February 25th, 2012
4:29 pm
Yep, 2005. The beginning of this blog.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:29 pm
Lew, yes there is, ever heard of Nightwish? Female lead singer, they have some good stuff, check out their song Nemo…
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:29 pm
I mean, when I think of Rock and Roll anthems, I always think of Dancing Queen before Smoke on the Water..
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
4:30 pm
anyone ever heard of c & m traveling show
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:30 pm
Just picked up a Nightwish CD (not sure which one) and only had a chance to listen to a couple tunes. If you like them, check out Ancient Bards from Italy.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:30 pm
now early 2005 sounds more like it to me, when I first started reading it didn’t sound like I had missed all that much time.
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:32 pm
Bet you’d like Dragonforce, too. Great, really fast and proficient guitar work from a couple of very good guitarists, Sam Tottman and Herman Li. Good singer, too.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:33 pm
I don’t remember exactly when the blog started, was reading the AJC online well before though..
just remember in the beginning getting “clowned” by DOB, because my name (different at the time) was too long to type when he replied to me..
cut and paste wasn’t invented then..
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
2005 sounds about right. I know I was here pretty early on, but there were others here before that back in the dys of Letwan Anthony and his Mama’s pies.
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=c+and+m+traveling+show&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCsQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DgByyHxAdrGM&ei=lVNJT7fjJMbe0QGq6ZXxDQ&usg=AFQjCNH8WYRQBiz4gtD1s_2tECBVd2QZIA
JerseyGil
February 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
Before The Blog All there was on here was The Vent and old TBS
Also was to be in the Fulton county Stadium early and listen in the radio Skid/Johnson/and the Profesor to updated.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
Listening to some Nightwish now. thanx for the mention
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
MLB’s response to Braun in Star Wars opening credits form
http://www.starwars.com/play/online-activities/crawl-creator/?cs=qjz6zad3ss
least of the east
February 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
if Bourn plays too well, we’ll have 0 chance of keeping him. if he’s mediocre, we will have a 10% chance.
Braves talk a good game, but it is played on the field. this lefty stacked lineup is no match for any decent lefthander.
by July, the fans will know that a playoff spot is wishful thinking.
Liberty Media couldn’t care less. MLB shouldn’t even allow a disinterested owner like that who is based hundreds of miles away.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:37 pm
Lew,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4LyKd-Hws
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:37 pm
If you like Nightwish and melodic metal, check out the Limb Records site – a German company that deals exclusively with the genre and does some great, slick recording and packagig of their bands with exceptional liner notes and design. Their stuff is a bit on the high end for cd’s price wise, but you get a very good prodcut and some good music that is NOT mainstream. like Ancient Bardss, Magic Kingdom, Excalion and Ghost Machinery.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
Nolie, didn’t think you were the Nightwish type, and Thin Lizzy too, awesome…
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
yeah I like melodic metal, some others has just gotten too much for me now days. I’ll try those you mentioned above. Thanx
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:41 pm
Lew, thanks for the suggestions..
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:42 pm
With a bit harder edge, Storm Warrior and Iron Fire are good, too.
Been listening to some old Heathen and Leatherwolf, too.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:43 pm
Lew, with those names, you just know they are European bands..
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:44 pm
I like Buck Cherry a lot, too. Was the oldest person at their show in Orlando at the Huse of Blues at Downtown Disney.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:44 pm
electric blues (Muddy Waters invented electricity) Southern Rock, most all rock til the mid-90s, not so much since then and what I do like such as Gvt Mule and Black Keys heavily influenced by older stuff. I have liked some of the singer-songwriters that DOB has mentioned too though
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:47 pm
since I’ve always been more of a single song guy,though usually the album cut, and less of an entire album guy the digital age off the web is heaven for me. amazing what you can get off YouTube and other places with Audacity
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:48 pm
Blog Monitor – Yep, Scandanavian, but not like the Norweigian Death Metal dueds like Dimmu Borgir – I don’t really like extreme gutteral vocals – though have been known to get into bands like Trivium and Children of Bodom every now and then.
You might also like White Wizzard (don’t let the name turn you off), Stratovarius, Avantasia, Ed Guy and Jon Oliva’s Pain (offshoot of Savatage and Trans Siberian Railroad).
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:49 pm
yeah, you can really go off on different directions on youtube with the other songs on the side bars..
ColoradoBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
4:49 pm
I think the Braves will not resign Bourn. The number of years will be the main reason I would not want to resign him. I do not think signing Bourn for 6 years would be a good use of the Braves limited funds.
I hate to say it but I think the Braves should try to sign Victorino for 3/$39M next year. Would Victorino sign for that? If not the other option might be to try and trade for Bourjos from the Angels. Bourjos had OPS last year, his 2nd season of .327, and an OPS of .765.
Victorino would give the Braves time to develop their own CFer, or Bourjos would be around for 4 or 5 years.
Lew
February 25th, 2012
4:50 pm
nolie – Check out Blackstone Cherry – southern metal. Think Skynyrd channeled through Zeppelin Two.
Ray
February 25th, 2012
4:50 pm
The NFL combine on, some things just stupid. I do not care the vertical jump is for QB’s. Its like in baseball tryouts, I do not care how fast a kid can run the 60 in a straight line.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
4:51 pm
Bob Seger..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXAFcYLGrk8
Ray
February 25th, 2012
4:51 pm
Hit send too quick. The 60 that matters to me is how fast can the kid get from home to 2nd. 1rst to 3rd or 2nd to home. To me that is the only 60 that matters.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:53 pm
luv Seger, used to go see him in Cobo all the time
nolie
February 25th, 2012
4:54 pm
thanx for the Blackstone Cherry too. like it so far
Jeff R
February 25th, 2012
5:00 pm
DOB, treat yourself to a really good meal somewhere in Orlando!
abeeewright
February 25th, 2012
5:06 pm
nolie, February 25th, 2012, 3:39 pm … “they just said the other day that the Braves are losing 6 mil this year right now, …”
Braves lost 6 million last year because of retroactively book-keeping Lowe’s 10 mil. It’s an accounting gimmick to get a tax break.
Soph
February 25th, 2012
5:09 pm
Wake up Heels.
O'BRIEN THE KIDDER
February 25th, 2012
5:13 pm
dave — if this is all you come up with in 12 hrs a day, it might be time to look for another job, must be 11/2 hrs on baseball. 101/2 hrs on some goofy list of songs, (that you like), i care nothing about your taste in music or motorcycles- give me 4 good hrs of baseball stories—. or just 10 min,
and copy mark bowman.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
5:13 pm
i musta misread that
nolie
February 25th, 2012
5:15 pm
copy Mark Bowman? you gotta be freakin’ kidding. Mark Bowman????
just go read the idiot yourself
Soph
February 25th, 2012
5:19 pm
Here come all the cuckoo banana people.
LAG
February 25th, 2012
5:19 pm
Because there’s always tons to write about during the first full-squad day of spring training…
Elonbrave
February 25th, 2012
5:21 pm
DOB, thanks for what you do.
Kyle, eff you.
Elonbrave
February 25th, 2012
5:23 pm
DOB, or anyone else… I know this isn’t exactly a measurable thing, but has there been any talk about the return of that crazy loud “thwak” Heyward had two years ago returning? I remember Bobby likening it to the sound Mantle’s swings made, and Chipper talked about trying to get it back.
I just wonder if it is.
tiger297
February 25th, 2012
5:23 pm
come on squits come on….
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
5:23 pm
I love the people that spend all this time complaining about how DOB does his job. If you don’t like it, why do you bother reading? There are plenty of other sources to find baseball news. Besides- you many stories have to be written that would take 4 hours to read through????
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
5:24 pm
O’BRIEN THE KIDDER
Nobody forces you to come here, don’t like it, don’t let the blog door hit ya on the way out..
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
5:24 pm
How many… Not you many…
nolie
February 25th, 2012
5:25 pm
cuckoo banana people, I ♥ it
Elonbrave
February 25th, 2012
5:26 pm
Oh, and @ O’BRIEN THE KIDDER, eff you too. And while we’re at it… eff Phillies fans, gas prices, the White Stripes’ breakup, and original sin. That’s all I can think of right now.
Elonbrave
February 25th, 2012
5:28 pm
And the show Whitney, on NBC. Now I’m done.
Soph
February 25th, 2012
5:30 pm
50 cents per use, nolie polie.
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
5:43 pm
The blog has come to a halt as we all root on our Cavs… (NOT Cleveland)…
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
5:46 pm
Elonbrave
“DOB, thanks for what you do.
Kyle, eff you.”
OUCH!
lol, But that dude deserved it…Obviously the people who rip D.O.B. don’t follow him during his season, with flights Xtra inning games, late rain delays etc…
The dude Has the extended schedule of a baseball player minus the pay
Now back to old Metallica
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
5:51 pm
DOB’s boys have cut the 13 point deficit to 5…
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
5:55 pm
yeah I like melodic metal, some others has just gotten too much for me now days. I’ll try those you mentioned above. Thanx
Becoming the Archetype – the founders of whom I graduated HS wih – is the only metal band I like (at least I think they’re classified as metal)
Here’s one from their newest album, which sounds different than their older stuff since they added another guitar player who sings and they added more clean vocals and harmonies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAWTJ2bVY5w
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
5:56 pm
Good win, Soph!
Soph
February 25th, 2012
5:56 pm
Survival.
Not a great game for UNC but a win’s a win.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
5:56 pm
PS – I don’t know what you mean by “too much” but there’s screaming.
buuuut the lyrics are Christian
Soph
February 25th, 2012
5:58 pm
Thanks, VJ. The next month is going to be fun.
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
6:00 pm
Glad to see that I should be home and able to watch next Saturday…
Brother John
February 25th, 2012
6:03 pm
Dave, I read you often. I was about to accuse you of being full of a four letter word that ends in T and is not the word dirt.But I bought 2 Sunday editions of the AJC today (Saturday) in North Georgia and there was hardly enough newsprint there to start a week’s worth of fires. (To be honest, my only reason for buying them.) It was about as thick as our local Clayton Tribune! But, an expense paid trip to Florida and living in a condo?? I would hardly be complaining. Many of us Braves’ fans would have to hitchhike down there and sleep under a bridge at night to watch our team. I enjoy your articles, but please, let’s keep things in some sort of perspective here. Thanks!!
Soph
February 25th, 2012
6:03 pm
VJ, how about those Panthers too?
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
6:04 pm
What about UGA beating #11 Florida by 14?
Soph
February 25th, 2012
6:04 pm
Changing names to agree with yourself?
coach joe
February 25th, 2012
6:06 pm
Medlan can be the 4th starter or 5th and we trade one of the super kids for a right hand bat ( outfielder)..
Go Braves..
Soph
February 25th, 2012
6:06 pm
Didn’t catch the game but just saw the score. Good for UGA too. GSU is still better.
johnny b
February 25th, 2012
6:06 pm
Great win for UGA!!!!
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
6:07 pm
GSU is still better.
Doubt it
Billy
February 25th, 2012
6:09 pm
Today the players took the field and began taking reps for fielding practice. Gorgeous day at Champion Stadium.
1st Base Freeman Hinske Meija
2nd Uggla Wilson Sutton
SS Pastor Hicks Simmons
3rd Chipper Terdoslavich
Then towards the end Terdoslavich left 3rd and joined for reps at 1st Base
Same thing for Wilson as he took reps at 3rd Base
Josh Wilson was wearing number 11
Drew Sutton was wearing number 4
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
6:10 pm
Thanks, Billy
bravesgrl4life
February 25th, 2012
6:16 pm
Anybody here ready for this season to start already? I am so freakin’ bored.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
6:17 pm
Medlan???
Come On…
Lets just Call Medlen “Little Big Man MED’s
I’m the King of Typos but Medlen has been with the team for 3 years and there is still a lot of “Medlin, Medlan” names on here…
Is that some sort of diss?
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
6:18 pm
Not everybody has the whole roster memorized
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
6:19 pm
bravesgrl4life
“Anybody here ready for this season to start already? I am so freakin’ bored.”
Co-Sign!
Have you bought tickets yet?
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
6:20 pm
And he’s pitched 2 games since August, 2010.
And how is “Little Big Man MED’s” any easier??
taylor
February 25th, 2012
6:21 pm
Love Ryan Bingham, great cover.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
6:22 pm
That Joe Terdoslavich Cat is supposed to be the real deal according to a few sources not to mention he ill prolly be Chippers Heir Appearent…
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:22 pm
I just use Meds so I never have to remember if it is an i or an e
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:23 pm
according to most sources he is NOT the real deal
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
6:24 pm
<<<<>>>>>
Little Big Man MED’s clears up any confusion on his name spelling…And the Man has heart, something the team needed after labor day last year
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
6:24 pm
A lot of people use Meds to forget stuff
bravesgrl4life
February 25th, 2012
6:25 pm
Tomahawkin, no, I only have Spring Training tickets so far. Plan on remeding that very soon. Thinking I may go ahead next week and get the 5-game flex plan before regular single game tickets go on sale on the 5th.
bravesgrl4life
February 25th, 2012
6:26 pm
And I McFanned it
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:27 pm
or electric shock therapy
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
6:29 pm
3B Joey Terdoslavich:
Hit 52 a record 52 doubles, A Carolina league Record and was a standout in The Arizona Fall League
Now Stuff That down your Pipe and Smoke It!
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
6:31 pm
Wait- because he hit 52 doubles in A ball he’s going to be a star?
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
6:31 pm
And The Terd (Terdoslavich) is only 23…
Barring a diaster he will be Chipper’s Heir Apparent…I’m not gonna Bank on It, But we are Not getting Zimmerman in the near future…And thats prolly our only option…
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
6:32 pm
Is DOB still breathing?
David O'Brien
February 25th, 2012
6:32 pm
WOW, what a freakin’ basketball game.
Soph
February 25th, 2012
6:33 pm
That Mizzou guy was pretty nonchalant pushing the ball up court. Congrats DOB. Great comeback for KU.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:33 pm
just quoting what most unbiased observers are saying, in fact other than Braves folks I have never read any report that comes out and says he will be a productive starter, a sub at best according to most all of them. why get all huffy about what others are saying Tomy, we just hope they are wrong
semiballcoach
February 25th, 2012
6:37 pm
Coach (2012 Fredi’s beisbol fandango
i saw your post about KISS in columbus in 1984—-i worked backstage, simmons did get arrested.
My dad was a jailer and they took simmons to jail in his stage costume.
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
6:41 pm
From what I read about Terdoslavish is that he is projected as a 1B/DH type and that he’s seen more as a Bench player. Here is the paragraph.
Terdo is the great hope many Braves fans have, due to his solid numbers, seemingly out of nowhere. However, defensively he profiles as not being able to stick anywhere other than 1B or DH. At this point, his bat doesn’t profile as being at the level necessary for a MLB 1B or DH, though he could be an okay bench bat or part time DH in the AL. But, he could pile on another year of solid offensive growth and surprise us by becoming an average MLB 1B bat. Certainly doesn’t seem to have the athleticism, defensive reflexes or arm to play a MLB 3rd base though, which many Braves fans seem to be hoping he will play as the heir apparent to Chipper at 3rd. He seems to sit in an awkward area of bat not good enough for 1B and glove not good enough for 3B. (FJR)
Also Keith Law on multiple chats has called Terdo a player getting too much hype and is just a extra guy to him.
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
6:44 pm
Also about Andrelton Simmons I asked Keith Law on Facebook if a good comparison for him is Omar Vizquel (ceiling) and Jack Wilson (Floor)…. He said I was too optimistic and that those are too high. So the floor is most likely a Rey Ordonez type Shortstop. All Glove no bat type.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:45 pm
Just finished watching the last 8 episodes of Homeland what a great season. hope it comes back just as strong.
Billy
February 25th, 2012
6:47 pm
I know today was first day, but Terdoslavich looked very comfortable and at home at his old position at 3rd base. Bobbled only one chance and made very strong and accurate throws on all chances to 1st. Chipper made a high throw that sailed into the stands and hit an elderly man in the stomach. Man was fine as Hinske checked in on him and said 1st day Chipper has no clue where the ball is going. Funny stuff
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:49 pm
glad to hear that Billy cause I’ve never read anything that claimed he was an acceptable third baseman
CB
February 25th, 2012
6:49 pm
nolie,keeping up with Revenge?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:50 pm
I’ve got them all so far CB but have only watched the first two or three. Seems like it might get kinda “soapy” ?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:51 pm
which I think True Blood has kinda done with all the who does she love stuff
ColoradoBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
6:53 pm
….He seems to sit in an awkward area of bat not good enough for 1B and glove not good enough for 3B. (FJR)….
So maybe then Joey the Terd can improve enough with the bat he could be a solid LFer? Anyone think he is athelic enough to play LF?
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:53 pm
Keeping up with GRIMM and THE FINDER so far
CB
February 25th, 2012
6:53 pm
I think it is getting good myself with how they are doing the characters,a little soapy but has some intrigue also.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:54 pm
You know, I have had that thought but I don’t think I have ever read anything about trying him in left.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:55 pm
maybe Va can ask KLaw next chat???
CB
February 25th, 2012
6:55 pm
Grimm we love but haven’t watched The Finder. We also like Alcatraz.
Billy
February 25th, 2012
6:57 pm
I’m told Joey T is as athletic as his uncle Mike Greenwell, but they grooming him as a 3B for now. Mike was a pretty fare ball player, but Joey T switch hits. Great bloodline
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
6:57 pm
The Finder, Alcatraz, Grimm, Revenge, homeland…
I hate to admit it but nolie and I have pretty much the same taste in tv shows… Scary
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:57 pm
Haven’t watched Alcatraz. actually there are a lot of new shows that i like, not great maybe but I find them ok.Haven’t started THE RIVER yet, but then unlike most I was not a huge LOST fan and I’ve read that they are similar
Kat
February 25th, 2012
6:58 pm
Great KU/Mizzou game… now onto the Syracuse/UConn game.. I sure hope UConn can get their crap together and beat Syracuse tonight. Not that I like UConn but if they can beat Syr I’ll be rooting for them…
nolie
February 25th, 2012
6:59 pm
guess I tend to pay a little more attention to unbiased non-Braves reports
CB
February 25th, 2012
7:00 pm
cab,nolie showing his feminine side.
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
7:02 pm
nolie
Klaw has said he thinks he’ll end up a bench player. play alittle corner outfield and 1st base. Doesn’t think 3rd base is his spot.
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:03 pm
Mike is unbiased as far as Braves go, but very high on his nephew. I used to read about 3-5 of the Braves blogs that are very popular with younger readership, until I found out they were written by kids 16-21 years old
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
7:05 pm
Cb-
Those are not exactly girlie shows
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:05 pm
Never been a big fan of KLaw dating back to his Blue Jay days. Some like him many don’t. He absolutely detests the Braves
CB
February 25th, 2012
7:07 pm
True that. Maybe you are showing your masculine side.
Brandon
February 25th, 2012
7:07 pm
Conference expansion is destroying rivalries in collegiate sports. What a way for Mizz and Kansas to go out. Great ballgame.
Oh and….. Duke > Kansas
CB
February 25th, 2012
7:08 pm
IBKL.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
7:09 pm
oh BS Billy, he has been very high on the Braves for several years now
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
7:10 pm
CB-
I’ve never been the girlie type
I prefer action and drama and mystery and violence to fake laughs and sappy love sick girls who don’t know what a TampaTwo is
nolie
February 25th, 2012
7:10 pm
guess I’ll have to try Alcatraz , sounds like I might like it
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:11 pm
Only the ones he has a crush on nolie
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
7:11 pm
Ok you cats, I’m Gonna Drink some Pinot Grigio and watch old 48 Hours
Vol4ever
February 25th, 2012
7:11 pm
I miss the days when the Braves needed a player they went out and got one, didnt matter if it was the Yankees or whoever we had a shot. These days we KNOW the Braves are not going to spend the money to win. The Braves are just like the Hawks, cheapass owners.
For the first time since the 80s I will not follow spring training. Liberty is being cheap and there are a lot of sheeple on here that will support them and say we are on a short budget. Whe the stands are half empty with a subpar team on the field you will know who to blame.
CB
February 25th, 2012
7:12 pm
cab,you and my wife could be best friends. She can watch shows even I cringe at.LOL
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:12 pm
I had an hour or more long conversation with Jeff Porter last night and he is handling everything as well as can be expected. Great wonderful man
nolie
February 25th, 2012
7:13 pm
he has rated the entire org highly for a number of years, he just doesn’t pull punches if he believes a guy hasn’t got it. no matter who he plays for
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
7:14 pm
CB-
Yeah, VJ’s not big on some of the more violent shows that I love. One of the advantages of TiVo
nolie
February 25th, 2012
7:15 pm
Whe the stands are half empty with a subpar team on the field you will know who to blame.
yeah we’ll blame the fans who believe enough to show up and spend money, its all their fault
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:15 pm
Oh BS nolie so does my next door neighbor
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:16 pm
Just messing with you you old geezer
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
7:18 pm
So I guess we should all just go find a team that spends ridiculous amounts if money, like the Yankees, Phillies, or Red Sox (who have said they will not be spending so much in he future), instead if the team we have followed for 20 years? Makes sense to me. We all know it’s about who has the most money…
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
7:18 pm
Vol4ever
“I miss the days when the Braves needed a player they went out and got one, didnt matter if it was the Yankees or whoever we had a shot. These days we KNOW the Braves are not going to spend the money to win. The Braves are just like the Hawks, cheapass owners.
For the first time since the 80s I will not follow spring training. Liberty is being cheap and there are a lot of sheeple on here that will support them and say we are on a short budget. Whe the stands are half empty with a subpar team on the field you will know who to blame.”
Co-Sign! I said the same thing this Morning! SEC Cats are Not Gonna put up with these Cheap owners when we are only one block from winning a Pennant
CB
February 25th, 2012
7:19 pm
Billy,watch the old geezer stuff,you are outnumbered.
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:20 pm
The bartender told me last night that Heyward, Freddie and a few more players came in and he only carded Heyward on purpose and everyone really ran with that all night and rode Heyward hard. Ok off to dinner. Let’s see who shows up tonight.
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:21 pm
CB I am 61 be 62 this year
CB
February 25th, 2012
7:22 pm
Hey,cool. We need more to teach these youngsters.
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
7:23 pm
Invasion of The Old Folk.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
7:23 pm
I admit that I need messin’ with sometimes
nolie
February 25th, 2012
7:24 pm
gotta go watch the newest GRIMM. BBL
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:24 pm
Like I told Jeff Porter last night I can’t help it if I look 38.
DS1
February 25th, 2012
7:24 pm
I should get on the blog more often. You folks are making me feel young!
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
7:25 pm
I’m feeling positively child-like
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:26 pm
I’m taking the iPad with me so if anything cool happens I’ll chime back in
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:27 pm
MacAllan 21 year old Scotch makes me feel 21
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
7:27 pm
Keith Law is a straight shooter. He tells you his true opinion regardless if your a big fan of the prospect or not. His beef with the Braves is how they been drafting the past few years. We have been taking players will low ceilings, guys who have a great shot to be major league players but max out as average players. Also our system doesn’t have any really good hitting prospects. We have tons of pitching and speed and defense. All of our positional players prospects question marks center around offense.
I really value his opinion and he’s right most of the time. He’s the Mel Kiper Jr. of baseball.
CB
February 25th, 2012
7:27 pm
Billy,post some pictures. LOL
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:41 pm
CB I’m at the bar right now. I took only video today on my iPhone if someone will walk me through it I will post the videos
Ward
February 25th, 2012
7:50 pm
Hello everyone! Good take on the Oscars,and thats what I pretty much predict too.
Ward
February 25th, 2012
7:51 pm
DOB- Also great post…..
Ward
February 25th, 2012
7:52 pm
I was thinking along with DOB on the Oscars,and what he wrote on the predicted winners.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
7:54 pm
Do you guys know how to post videos to Facebook?
Ward
February 25th, 2012
8:00 pm
Do you guy’s know if I was correct on Brandon Drary,or is his last name some thing else. He supposed to be a pretty good prospect too for the Braves?
David O'Brien
February 25th, 2012
8:01 pm
DOB’s boys have cut the 13 point deficit to 5… — Venice Jim
It was 19-point deficit in second half.
Billy
February 25th, 2012
8:02 pm
Billy
February 25th, 2012
7:41 pm
CB I’m at the bar right now. I took only video today on my iPhone so “Do you guys know how to post videos to DOB”?
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
8:02 pm
DOB – I knew it was more, but wasn’t sure how much – I was following on Twitter while tutoring…
bobbymahlon
February 25th, 2012
8:06 pm
I like Bourn but I hope he hits better than he did last year (.278)for us.
Robert
February 25th, 2012
8:07 pm
“We’ve got to have the guys who hit .300, hit .300. We’ve got to have the guys who hit the ball out of the ballpark, hit the ball out of the ballpark. We’ve got to have the guys who do both, do both.”
Were you interviewing Chipper in an echo chamber, or has he just developed echolalia?
David O'Brien
February 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
Surely DOB, the AJC can afford to spring for a rental car. — 1eyesJack
How do you think I get back and forth from condo every day, monorail? I have a rental car for the entire 47-day stay. But to get to the car in the parking long outside ballpark, drive to a restaurant (through what is usually heavy Disney-area traffic) and get something to eat in middle of the day would take more than an hour. Can’t just leave the ballpark for an hour in the middle of the day while workout is going on, and have to write once we get back up to pressbox after workout and post-workout interviews.
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
You need to download the free Facebook App, Billy
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
Vol4ever,
if you aren’t going to follow the Braves this spring, why are you on a blog talking anout them?
jeffrey d
February 25th, 2012
8:09 pm
Click “Photo” button and there should be an option for videos
Ward
February 25th, 2012
8:10 pm
Bourn- Should be,and players most like have split season numbers when traded,and it’s hard to tell how good the player does when he is traded. We will get to see the full Bourn,and how good he is this year.
David O'Brien
February 25th, 2012
8:11 pm
nolie, ncgary, DiamondJim, T-Hawkin, DS1, JerseyGil, et al: Thanks.
Kat
February 25th, 2012
8:14 pm
test post…. (blog seems to be eating my comments)
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
8:17 pm
99% of us appreciate all your hard work dob
its that sorry 1% that needs to be put in there place
David O'Brien
February 25th, 2012
8:17 pm
Some photos today from one of the backfields during BP:
McCann, Freeman, Uggla by the cage
http://twitpic.com/8omes7
Chipper facing JJ in BP
http://twitpic.com/8om07y
Uggla facing JJ
http://twitpic.com/8olzhn
Chipper facing Beachy
http://twitpic.com/8om3lc
Mike Minor delivers a pitch (Hinske is hitting)
http://twitpic.com/8om80n
Robert
February 25th, 2012
8:18 pm
“Hit 52 a record 52 doubles, A Carolina league Record and was a standout in The Arizona Fall League …… And The Terd (Terdoslavich) is only 23″
Terdoslavich did stand out during AFL play. That often bodes well. It is worth noting, however, that his performance in Arizona was way out of line with what he had done to that point
Terdoslavich did reasonably well at the high A level at age 22. That’s nice, but it’s a long way from the big leagues. He also struck out 2 and a half times as often as he walked – at high A-ball.
Lastly, though the nickname may seem a natural, when I think turds and the Atlanta Braves, noone but Bobby Cox will ever come to mind
Robert
February 25th, 2012
8:18 pm
“Hit 52 a record 52 doubles, A Carolina league Record and was a standout in The Arizona Fall League …… And The Terd (Terdoslavich) is only 23″
Terdoslavich did stand out during AFL play. That often bodes well. It is worth noting, however, that his performance in Arizona was way out of line with what he had done to that point
Terdoslavich did reasonably well at the high A level at age 22. That’s nice, but it’s a long way from the big leagues. He also struck out 2 and a half times as often as he walked – at high A-ball.
Lastly, though the nickname may seem a natural, when I think turds and the Atlanta Braves, noone but Bobby Cox will ever come to mind
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
8:18 pm
damn homonyms their
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
8:18 pm
My 2012 Predictions for Bourn
282/345/355 100 R 10 3B 61 SB
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
8:19 pm
darn homonyms
Ward
February 25th, 2012
8:20 pm
ncgary-You mean like those Phillie Fans,Mets Fans,Nats Fans, Marlin Fans. Some whom claim they are Braves fans,but really are not.
Kat
February 25th, 2012
8:21 pm
Ehh nevermind. After three tries at trying to post a comment about the MLB Fan Cave I give up. My only guess is ‘wordpress’ thinks there’s an issue with the MLB link I’m trying to post.
Ward
February 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
I’m going to take it a step further,and say Bourn puts up Reyes type numbers,and comes close to a batting title.
Ward
February 25th, 2012
8:24 pm
Kat- or some one is giving you a bad time?
ncgary
February 25th, 2012
8:25 pm
yeah ward them too;)
Ward
February 25th, 2012
8:26 pm
Kat-Some bloggers can break into your computer,so be careful…..
Robert
February 25th, 2012
8:30 pm
Re – Bourn – 60 steals is certainly possible. A batting title for Bourn would be kinda like Brady Anderson’s 50 home run season
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
8:35 pm
Ward
I really don’t think Bourn can win a batting title. He’s never even batted 300. in 1 season and strikes out a ton. He’d really have to take a huge step to win a batting title.
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
8:45 pm
WTG Atlanta, selling out the dome for the SX…
Ward
February 25th, 2012
8:47 pm
I said,”Bourn could come close to winning a batting title.” I think he’s going to take a huge step,because he wants a contract.
Kat
February 25th, 2012
8:52 pm
Ward– considering I can post when I don’t include a link that’s my guess on the issue. Whatever though no biggy. Also noticed the voting for the Fan Cave is over w/ anyway so it doesn’t really matter
JoeFan
February 25th, 2012
8:56 pm
Bourn can help the Braves win alot of 3-2 games? That’s providing the Braves can score the other 2 runs. With this lineup that may be asking to much. As for Bourn, where was he when the Braves needed him most last season. Maybe its because there was no pressure to perform in Houston and when the spotlight came on in Atlanta he had a case of stage fright.
bruce
February 25th, 2012
8:57 pm
I am disappointed in Fredi for not cutting serious slack for Tyler… he was doing his work, no one told him or Wilson. Fredi should take responsibility for saying the coaches would be there and that he is pleased with Tyler for taking the initiative and doing good work.
Laughing out Loud
February 25th, 2012
8:57 pm
Nolie, your comment “I didn’t know God was lost” is the best. Might I add, neither is God hiddened. e doesn’t play “hide and go seek.” He is just seeking those who will trust Him. Go Braves! This ought to be an awesome year for Braves baseball!
Ward
February 25th, 2012
9:00 pm
JoeFan- Did you ever think that Braves ran into good pitching,and that the Braves had mostly a right handed starting rotation staff,and teams just figured that out.
Ward
February 25th, 2012
9:03 pm
Chances of that happening again is very, very slim…….excited about the year.
Ward
February 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
All it’s been good talk later,and be cool……..”Go!!!!! Braves!!!!!” I Have High Hopes……….peace……..
Billy
February 25th, 2012
9:06 pm
Bruce not sure where you are going with this, but Fredi and those that needed to know Tyler was going to California to work out with Jack knew it was prearranged.
VaBravesFan
February 25th, 2012
9:07 pm
Interesting a bit. Bourn has a huge career year and gets a big pay day, also helps us get deep in playoffs or win a WS, or he just has a solid season and are chances are better at keeping him..
Kat
February 25th, 2012
9:29 pm
So UConn can show up anytime now….
Lobosolo
February 25th, 2012
9:41 pm
Robert, you’ve got the expertise and sense of a mud flap, and Bobby Cox is WAY out of your league…
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
9:47 pm
hey, no need to be diss’n mud flaps there..
Billy
February 25th, 2012
9:49 pm
Champions Gate is empty.
I’m bored. We are listening to the piano player In the lobby bar. Too late for nite golf. Last tee time under the lights was 9:15. If Bourn has a very good, not great, year the Braves will be outbid for his services. If Bourn has a Poo Poo year would fans want the Braves to try to bring him back? A Poo Poo year would be an Alex Rios type year.
brian
February 25th, 2012
9:59 pm
Thanks again for the blog DOB. Spring training blogs are always my favorite but it sounds like it is the hardest on you. Is Spring training harder than the regular season? Harder than a long road trip?
Vol4ever
February 25th, 2012
10:01 pm
Blog Monitor……….8:15
i have been a die hard fan since the 80s. I collected all the ball cards, I listened to WSB everynight, etc. Being 52 yrs old and watching (or listening when they were not on TV) the Braves for a long time I just dont think they are putting a complete product on the field because they dont want to spend the money to compete. There is no way the Braves can compete with the Phillies with the pieces they have now. Maybe you are younger, but I have been around awhile and cant stand mediocre, and that is what the Braves have become. I will always be a Braves fan, but a diehard? Not until they spend the money and put a complete team that can compete. I live 150 miles from the stadium and I attended over 10 games last year. Not this year. Have a good day.
brian
February 25th, 2012
10:03 pm
Biggest things I think we all are looking for in the preseason:
1. Heywars’s swing. Getting the explosion off the bat back. So far so good
2. Health of the starters – incomplete – Hudson out until May. Hanson out with a concussion but should return this week. Awaiting more info on Jurrjens
3. Can Pastornicky (or Simmons) handle SS for the ATlanta Braves? Incomplete. I do like that Pastornicky took the initiative to work out with Wilson and I love the veteran trying to help the kid
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
10:04 pm
Billy
“MacAllan 21 year old Scotch makes me feel 21″
Yuck!
brian
February 25th, 2012
10:05 pm
say what you will about the Big XII or however many they are now and will become next year. They can play one heck of a basketball game.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
10:06 pm
That Yuck…Is in regards to Scotch!
T-Hawkin Doesn’t Eff with The Brown!
brian
February 25th, 2012
10:10 pm
Braves at least will look sharp in their unis – classic whites and grays are top notch. I actually love the road alternate navy especially the totally navy hat (if anyone can find that alternate hat without a Medlen 5950 straight bill please let me know). New off white jerseys are very,very nice. Now spring training – love the BP jerseys and hat
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
10:12 pm
“Take It To The Limit! One More Timeeee!!!!”
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
10:17 pm
thawk sure has an eclectic taste in music..
nolie
February 25th, 2012
10:20 pm
VaFan, I think your Bourn totals are possible but maybe a bit high. he would need to hit better than he did last season in Atlanta, the rub being that his OPS+ last season here was the same as his career OPS+, which to me means that a big improvement is unlikely, but maybe
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
10:21 pm
Vol4ever,
I became a Braves fan in 79..
But I am also a Baseball fan, and win or lose I love the game.. I just like it better when the Braves win..
nolie
February 25th, 2012
10:22 pm
But I am also a Baseball fan, and win or lose I love the game.. I just like it better when the Braves win..BM
me too, exactly
nolie
February 25th, 2012
10:24 pm
hmmm, maybe BM is not the greatest shortcut to use……..
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
10:29 pm
Nolie, good philoshophy..
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
10:30 pm
@brian
Co-Sign on that 10:10 post…I wasn’t a Fan of the Road Blue unis Til I saw a B-Macc One in Person standing in line at a QT in 2009 in McDonough…That Shyt was Clean!
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 25th, 2012
10:31 pm
DOB, I love you. You’re the best! I don’t know what nolie and co. said to you for you to thank them, but I want to be included in your 8:11 post.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 25th, 2012
10:33 pm
DOB is the real celebrity. Pretty soon, if not now, he will be as famous among Braves fans as Chipper. Well maybe not Chipper, but maybe Freeman. Maybe not Freddie, but Tosca for sure.
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
10:35 pm
I miss Chino
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
10:37 pm
No kangaroo gonads this year?
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
10:40 pm
Blog Monitor
“thawk sure has an eclectic taste in music..”
For Once, we can agree on something…
Eagles is some Good Shyt, Ditto For Led Zeppelin and some old Eddie Money, Anything but Journey and Billy Joel
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
10:40 pm
And what of Mexican Maddux? When is Campillo reporting?
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
10:42 pm
Redman in his momma’s basement tossing 75 mph fastballs against the wall, just in case?
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
10:43 pm
Don’t worry. If Craig Wilson doesn’t work out, there’s always Thorman. Or is Thorman out of options?
Billy
February 25th, 2012
10:43 pm
Tomahawkin (theGodfather) I’m told that nasty liver taste good. YUCK GO LIVER
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
10:45 pm
Orr and Woodward give the Bravos the best bench in baseball
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
10:45 pm
@Chatt-lanta Brian
D.O.B. is the Current Version of the old TBS to A lot of Out of State Braves Fans…
Naive People on Rip him (The one’s who don’t know or care to know what a beat writer does) in thinking that he does Paris Hilton Style Vacations have no clue in as to how much personal time he spends on here rappin (slang for talking) with us braves fans
Billy
February 25th, 2012
10:46 pm
I would rather have a good 21 year old Scotch on the Rocks. Vs a tough smelly sheep on the half shell.
Kat
February 25th, 2012
10:47 pm
Great game now that UConn tied it up on ESPN…..
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
10:48 pm
@Billy
My Roommate Eff’s with That Crown!
Yuck!
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
10:49 pm
Momma always said hangovers lead to concussions. Tommy’s momma never said?
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
10:50 pm
I miss the days of Ray “Burger” King and Tim Spooneybarger!
Spooney was my boy! I though he was gonna have a great career in The “A”
Billy
February 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
Get more sophisticated friends
Billy
February 25th, 2012
10:52 pm
Spooney loved Pensacola Beach
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
10:54 pm
A bottle of white, a bottle of red
Perhaps a bottle of rose instead
We’ll get a table near the street
In our old familiar place
You and I, face to face
A bottle of red, a bottle of white
It all depends upon your appetite
I’ll meet you any time you want
In our Italian Restaurant.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
10:56 pm
It’s nine o’clock on a Saturday
The regular crowd shuffles in
There’s an old man sitting next to me
Makin’ love to his tonic and gin
He says, “Son, can you play me a memory
I’m not really sure how it goes
But it’s sad and it’s sweet and I knew it complete
When I wore a younger man’s clothes.”
la la la, di da da
La la, di di da da dum
Chorus:
Sing us a song, you’re the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we’re all in the mood for a melody
And you’ve got us all feelin’ alright
Now John at the bar is a friend of mine
He gets me my drinks for free
And he’s quick with a joke or to light up your smoke ****
But there’s some place that he’d rather be
He says, “Bill, I believe this is killing me.”
As his smile ran away from his face
“Well I’m sure that I could be a movie star
If I could get out of this place”
Oh, la la la, di da da
La la, di da da da dum
Now Paul is a real estate novelist
Who never had time for a wife
And he’s talkin’ with Davy, who’s still in the Navy
And probably will be for life
And the waitress is practicing politics
As the businessman slowly gets stoned
Yes, they’re sharing a drink they call loneliness
But it’s better than drinkin’ alone
Chorus
sing us a song you’re the piano man
sing us a song tonight
well we’re all in the mood for a melody
and you got us all feeling alright
It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday
And the manager gives me a smile
‘Cause he knows that it’s me they’ve been comin’ to see
To forget about their life for a while
And the piano, it sounds like a carnival ****
And the microphone smells like a beer
And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar
And say, “Man, what are you doin’ here?”
Oh, la la la, di da da
La la, di da da da dum
Chorus:
sing us a song you’re the piano man
sing us a song tonight
well we’re all in the mood for a melody
and you got us all feeling alright
nolie
February 25th, 2012
10:58 pm
The one song that Paul McCartney said he wished he had written
Billy
February 25th, 2012
10:58 pm
The restaurants and bartenders took out “loss of business insurance” on Timmy when he left. Man had a bad need to party
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
10:59 pm
Slow down you crazy child
Take the phone off the hook and disappear for a while
It’s alright you can afford to lose a day or two
When will you realize…
Vienna waits for you.
And you know that when the truth is told
That you can get what you want
Or you can just get old
You’re gonna kick off before you even get halfway through
Why don’t you realize…Vienna waits for you
When will you realize…Vienna waits for you
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
11:00 pm
Ain’t no PART-AY like a Spooneybarger party
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
11:00 pm
nolie – someone on the blog would still consider it garbage, I suppose, even if Sir Paul had written it…
don sutton's poodle perm
February 25th, 2012
11:03 pm
Who the hell is Paul McCartney?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/who-is-paul-mccartney
Kat
February 25th, 2012
11:04 pm
Oww that hurt. Syracuse wins again. Blah.. as my phone blows up from my brother and sister (both Syr alums)..booo. Haha.
Billy
February 25th, 2012
11:05 pm
Some of the best Liquor Salesman in the world can’t party like a A Major League Baseball Player and some some of the best Baseball players can’t Party like a Liquor Salesman.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 25th, 2012
11:08 pm
Isn’t Billy Joel That sings “Uptown Girl”???
Now That Song is Gawd Awful! That song was sooo bad, they Showed the video on Beavis and Butthead and they had to close their eyes….
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
11:13 pm
No, it is a great song – sorry you hate it, but you are HORRIBLY WRONG – it is fine to say that you don’t like it, but you are not the ultimate judge on what is good music – sorry…
Billy
February 25th, 2012
11:13 pm
10% of the people, yes you, don’t know what the heck the other 90% does or knows, because we are so busy not knowing 80% of what we, ourselves do. Glass houses people
Billy
February 25th, 2012
11:14 pm
I read that and damn it really struck home, at your house
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
11:14 pm
Then again, I guess it makes sense that you compare yourself similarly to Beavis and Butthead…
Billy
February 25th, 2012
11:15 pm
Those that respond feel a kinship I guess
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
11:17 pm
Uptown Girl was written as a tribute to Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons, on an album which contained a number of brilliant homages…
Billy
February 25th, 2012
11:20 pm
Love Frankie Valki
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:25 pm
Southern Cross
One of my favorite songs
abeeewright
February 25th, 2012
11:26 pm
Didn’t Harry Chapin write Piano Man?
Soph
February 25th, 2012
11:27 pm
What’s wrong with Uptown Girl? Love that song.
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:28 pm
cab……wooden ships
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:29 pm
and anything by Gordon Lightfoot
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:30 pm
Salt Life-
My lack of Jimmy knowledge may be showing but I don’t follow. VJ would know- he’s a much better fan than me. My two fab Jimmy songs are Southern Cross and Come Monday. But I love nearly all his stuff.
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:31 pm
Soph……..i love Billy Joel
sorry….just getting in….havent read anything but the last 10 posts
abeeewright
February 25th, 2012
11:32 pm
Tomahawkin (The Godfather), February 25th, 2012, 11:08 pm … “Isn’t Billy Joel That sings “Uptown Girl”??? Now That Song is Gawd Awful! That song was sooo bad, they Showed the video on Beavis and Butthead and they had to close their eyes….”
You can’t get the sound from a story in a magazine aimed at your average teen.
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:32 pm
Now playing Briwn Eyed Girl- Which I saw Van Morrison play live. A concert where they (he?) opened for Bob Dylan. Love that song too
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:32 pm
hard to imagine how anybody who loves music can say that song is trash. It absolutely nails the small time music business and especially small bars whether piano or not. Having run a couple at one time or another it is exactly right, as it should be. it was written mostly about a long gig he had , I believe in San Diego under a different name, after his first album failed.
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:32 pm
Brown- not Briwn. Stupid iPad
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:33 pm
cab….do not know that I have ever heard Jimmy sing Southern Cross….thought you were talking CSN….sorry
abeeewright
February 25th, 2012
11:34 pm
I thought Crosby, Stills, and Nash did Southern Cross. Is there another Southern Cross?
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:35 pm
Salt life-
Jimmy’s version is the one I love so much- actually only heard CSN version once or twice. No need to be sorry
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:36 pm
nope, but Harry wrote some great stuff, Cats in the Cradle, W O L D and Taxi being my faves.
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:37 pm
Abwright-
Jimmy Buffet does an outstanding version of Southern Cross. It’s actually the reason I started listening to him. Well, that and Come Monday.
Ward
February 25th, 2012
11:37 pm
Hello everyone! John Cafferty,and The Beaver Brown Band is good music too. From the “Eddie & The Cruisers”. Both sound tracks are good from 1and 2 “Eddie Lives…….”
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:37 pm
my absolute favorite Jimmy is his version of James Taylor’s “Mexico”…..when I turn on my blender, I listen to that
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:38 pm
Big Buffet fan, Come Monday is great as is A Pirate Looks at 40
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:39 pm
Abwright-
Posted to you at the end of the last page…
Salt Life-
Mexico is my favorite James Taylor song (out of many of his that I love) so to me any other version would pale- in fairness, never heard Jimmy’s version
Blog Monitor
February 25th, 2012
11:40 pm
Thawk, come on, how can you not like Billy Joel, and especially Journey??
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:40 pm
Nolie-
You ever listen to the streaming concerts? That s what we have on now
abeeewright
February 25th, 2012
11:42 pm
cab … I did not know that (Jimmy doing SC). Gotta luv Mr. Buffett, though, for naming a sports arena Landshark Stadium.
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:42 pm
however comma….side by side, Jimmy or James….I got James…..me and Jimmy got our toes in the sand (which is where my heart is)…but my soul is in them cold ass mountains with the horses
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:43 pm
saw Billy Joel and Jimmy Buffet on the same bill in a smalll room in Atlanta back around the time of The Pink Crustracean album. I believe it had just come out, that would have been around 73 I guess
tiger297
February 25th, 2012
11:43 pm
I love buffett but the thing that always gets me is how depressing his lyrics are but it still comes across as upbeat
abeeewright
February 25th, 2012
11:44 pm
nolie … don’t know where I heard (or thought I heard) that Chapin wrote Piano Man. It stuck with me for a while, although I never checked it out to verify. Maybe I’m thinking of a completely other song and singer.
Still, Chapin wrote a bunch of really, really meaningful stuff which fit into the same space as Piano Man.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op0B4nNxG9Y
Jimmy Buffet Doesn’t Live in Key West anymore. great David Allan Coe tribute. can’t quote the lyrics on a family blog
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:47 pm
i find myself a little old for concerts these days……..streaming would be nice…..but im going to the Wanee festival in April…..google it…..Allmans, Buddy Guy, Trucks…..just wish spread wide was coming back
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:47 pm
Abwright-
You should check it out.
Jimmy always strikes me as someone that doesn’t take fame too seriously and just has a good time.
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:47 pm
or is it May whenever
tiger297
February 25th, 2012
11:47 pm
73 I guess I was learning to walk…damn I missed so much
Ward
February 25th, 2012
11:48 pm
Billy Joel is good. My favorite song “River Of Dreams”,and “Uptown Girl”.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:48 pm
used to call Jimmy’s music “gulf and western”
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
11:49 pm
Stephen Sills originally did Southern Cross by himself, but David and Graham did join in later in time…
tiger297
February 25th, 2012
11:50 pm
sometimes I miss old LuLu’s…then I remember I had to live/work in Mobile and I don’t miss it so much
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
11:50 pm
Post-Buffett concert, first song played on RM is Fish and Whistle by the great John Prine…
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:51 pm
i love how Kristofferson gave all of his music away….”Me and Bobby MaGee” “Sunday Mornin Comin Down”
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:54 pm
VJ…did not know that
cabravesfan
February 25th, 2012
11:54 pm
MCGee
. (one of my best friends was named after that song….)
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
11:55 pm
I saw the lyrics to We Didn’t Start the Fire in my 8th grade student’s binder this morning – she was surprised when I started singing it, but I never did figure out why it was there – I will have to ask on Monday (since she’s been in this particular country for six months, in addition to being a yout, I suspect many of the references are lost on her)…
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:55 pm
Kris is a great guy, a great writer and a real real smart dude. He used to play in Key West and other coastal places when he was piloting a copter for the oil rigs B4 Cash and Joplin made him famous. Onea the guys who makes you think that there is a wee bit of a chance that perhaps you ain’t the smartest man in the room. very unusual for my BTW
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:56 pm
cab and VJ….when I drink, I misspell…when I’m sober I am the spelling police
Venice Jim
February 25th, 2012
11:57 pm
Not overly familiar with blogging when not drinking…
Ward
February 25th, 2012
11:57 pm
Jefferson Airplane, is another goood band.
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:58 pm
speaking of the Police
de do do do de da da da
nolie
February 25th, 2012
11:58 pm
I had a HUGE crush on Grace Slick……
Salt life
February 25th, 2012
11:59 pm
Vj…wait til she hears Tom Green’s “Willy Song”….that’ll screw her up
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:00 am
I used to be the police
Ward
February 26th, 2012
12:00 am
VJ-You should have said anything,because you caused me to mess up too,but it doesn’t take much for me to mess up on my spelling.Good thing I don’t drink………
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:00 am
Salt life-
Only reason I pointed input is because of my friend
I will forgive just this once…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:02 am
Mu nephew Jake still is the police.the dirty copper
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:02 am
cab……gotcha
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:02 am
It out- I need to stop drinking and blogging. Or stop blogging (because we all know I will not stop drinking
)
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:03 am
I am gong to call it a night before the iPad autocorrects something I really regret. Night all!
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:05 am
nite cab
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:05 am
nolie (always much respect to you)….it almost took my soul from me….I got out just in time…he should not do more than 10 years…after that he will be broken beyond repair….i got repaired
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:07 am
oh cab you do make speeches….lightweigth….its only 9 in cali!!!
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:08 am
goodnight cab
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:09 am
Salt Life – we have things on the DVR in the bedroom to watch that are more time sensitive than those in the living room…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:09 am
he was a SEAL for years and when he retired from the service he became a deputy, SWAT guy and trains defensive dogs on the side. I worry about him at time, not for anything he does, but you are right, it’s a hard life
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:11 am
VJ….right on
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:11 am
we have things on the DVR in the bedroom to watch that are more time sensitive than those in the living room…VJ
that makes it sound like you rush through sex to watch tv……..
Moe Berg
February 26th, 2012
12:11 am
Off to bed, after laughing my way through a Govinda-Raveena Tandon song: Kisi Disco Mein Jaye – Bade Miyan Chote Miyan
He was an MP (Member of Parliament) for awhile.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:12 am
nolie – by the way, I did not fold under the pressure on postings last blog – just did not have the impetus of guessing songs with Tom to reach the rarefied sir you and cab usually do…I’ll bide my time for a week until it’s PBP time…
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:12 am
nolie…..he’s probably more mentally equipt to handle it than I was
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:13 am
Good night to all!
(nolie – :head shaking:)
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:14 am
I guess it affects everybody differently but it can be soul numbing no doubt
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:14 am
crap….i misspelled equipped
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:14 am
sorry VJ
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:14 am
(and speechless)…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:15 am
that’s ok Salt, VJ misspelled air……..
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:15 am
Nolie is a dirty old man!
Ward
February 26th, 2012
12:16 am
Cab-One question? How do you drink,and post? Just wondering how you can pull that off with out miss spelling?
tiger297
February 26th, 2012
12:16 am
nolie – it breeds so much distrust I think
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:18 am
you betchum Red Ryder, I sure am
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:18 am
Ward-
Careful typing and autocorrect. The iPhone, iPad and apple computer (especially the computer) correct misspellings automatically.
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:19 am
Really going. Night folks
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:20 am
another mispell………crap!!!!…………shut up VJ
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:20 am
well luckily this area’s crime is not all that pervasive and violent. I guess after the military its pretty easy to get through actually
Ward
February 26th, 2012
12:21 am
Night Cab!
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:21 am
another mispell…
MISSPELL
tiger297
February 26th, 2012
12:22 am
nolie – have several friends followed same path…said it was easier to disassociate during military encounters than with your neighbors. Assume it also depends very much on the individual
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:25 am
nolie….grew up with my parents…they’re still together…54 years….my biggest tragedy was the death of grand parents…never knew that parents raped their children, or broke their bones, or set them on fire……that world tainted me….I quit….not because I deny that it happens, but because I could not function if I stayed in their world
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:26 am
yeah I can see that tiger, but the difference in what he did in war and what happens down here is vast. perhaps in a more violent situation it would be different
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:27 am
bad spellers of the world UNTIE!!!!
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:27 am
yeah I get it Salt, I think I would have a hard time with it too, my cynicism is mostly veneer
Ward
February 26th, 2012
12:30 am
All,have a good one!Talk tomorrow, and lots for entertainment.NASCAR, Oscars,and “The Walking Dead.” Peace my friends…….
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:31 am
piece ward
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:32 am
goodnight Ward…..Im grilling hot dogs, sausage, and brats for the race tomorrow….you should stop by if you’re in the neighborhood
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:32 am
and piece y’all.
tiger297
February 26th, 2012
12:33 am
nolie would never misspell a word on purpose
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:34 am
night nolie…your nephew does a tremendous service to us regular types….what he does is not lost on me
tiger297
February 26th, 2012
12:34 am
would he?
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:45 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yQc-wGeYvk
I hate winter (45 degrees here)……where the hell is summer?!!!!
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:49 am
tiger, nolie….going to Cape San Blas for a week in June….do you know it?
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
12:58 am
Oprah Winfrey has seen fit to put the less initiated of my little town on her OWN network’s show “Love Town”….and she chose to show up here two weeks ago (the wife and I went to see her but she’d left before we got there..among the 3000 people that showed up) ..now they’re filming another reality show about parents with newborns (whatever)….and ,oh by the way, a couple of episodes of “Royal Pains” will film here in a couple weeks as well…..anybody wanna be a movie star?
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
1:06 am
crap!!!!!…… I did it again….I killed the blog
DOB these guys are from where I live …they were in Orlando tonight….not your cup of tea, but good nonetheless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkHP1xBQMco
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
1:18 am
I learned tonight that you should have a bell on your motorcycle to ward off evil spirits……..i’ve ridden across country three times without a bell…i need to hit somebody for not telling me “)
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
1:19 am
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
1:19 am
hey… look at me…I’m happy!!
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
1:26 am
BAS…..be there the second week of July…show me and the wife around?…her mother grew up there, now deceased…she wants to go and see….I want to go to Yosemitie…..biggest park I’ve not been to…then we gotta go to Napa…..(I dont even drink wine)….at least I get Reno out of the deal
Salt life
February 26th, 2012
1:28 am
I quit
John Adcox
February 26th, 2012
2:55 am
Jimmy Buffett did one of the first concerts I ever went to. I saw him and Queen in the same month. Pretty god way to get the old feet wet.
John Adcox
February 26th, 2012
2:55 am
Er, pretty GOOD way. Sorry about that.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
5:14 am
Does anybody see it as hypocritical that Stallone&Schwarzenegger who made about 98% of their movies based on huge death totals are anti-gun?
nolie
February 26th, 2012
5:31 am
Poor VJ. What is he gonna do for his Yvonne jones from now on?
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
5:42 am
good song list last night
had alreafy broke out the john prine
before i got to vjs post, thatnks for the coe song nolie
harry chapin was one of the greatest songwriters
imo
his words seemed to come to life
lets get this party started that we call baseball
go braves
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
5:50 am
even i aint anti gun
i think we should give everyone a gun when they turn 16 and teach them how to use it for 6 months. would sure put a stop to crime, if everyone knew that everyone else had a gun on them too
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
5:51 am
of course i would be the lawbreaker
and not carry mine but………..
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
7:25 am
Good morning from Lake Bryan and Dark Star bureau of Braves/MIB blog. 1 p.m. workout today (second day of physicals in morning).
Six days until Grapefruit League opener against Prince and the Tigres.
http://twitpic.com/8oxxfd
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
7:35 am
I hate winter (45 degrees here)……where the hell is summer?!!!! — Salt Life
Well, summer is supposed to start in three months. But considering it was in the 60s most of “winter” in Atlanta (70 when I left) and it was 86 here in Orlando on Friday, you probably won’t have to wait three months. Maybe closer to three weeks.
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
8:08 am
Say thanks for the Man In Black, who would’ve been 80 today. He was the Real Thing.
R.I.P., Johnny Cash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBLgtKVwptA
Ted M
February 26th, 2012
8:16 am
Tyler Pastornicky and Freddie Freeman look like twins in the face. I know Freddie is a lot bigger then Tyler. But wow they could be twins.
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
8:28 am
Johnny’s cover of Trent Reznor’s “Hurt,” with what remains the most poignant and powerful video I’ve ever seen, particularly the scene where June is looking down from the steps.
June died in May 2003, and Johnny died four months later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
8:33 am
Tyler Pastornicky and Freddie Freeman look like twins in the face. I know Freddie is a lot bigger then Tyler. But wow they could be twins. — Ted M
You’re right — they do look a lot alike. Not twins-alike, but a lot alike.
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
8:37 am
Don’t forget to ready Steve Hummer’s excellent story on Brian McCann, who said, “I truly felt if I played up to my standards, the Cardinals don’t get in the postseason.”
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/mccann-ready-to-shake-1362761.html
pryguy
February 26th, 2012
8:46 am
Thanks for your work DOB.
I believe this relationship Pastornicky has developed with Wilson will only be beneficial for him going forward. It seems like the kid has his head on straight, and for that matter most of the young Braves players (Heyward, Freeman, the pitchers) This is a tribute to the leadership of the players, manager, and organization. Not only developing baseball players, but good, genuine people.
I live in the Philadelphia area and have been calling in to 97.5 the Phanatic Radio show here and there bantering with these crazies up here. They believe the Marlins are the biggest challenge and the NL EAST has already been won. I cannot wait for the season to unfold because this Braves team has a unique bond and that can go a long way in a 162 game baseball season.
Keep on Davey
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
8:51 am
Nick Cave’s excellent tribute to Johnny. (Give it about 20 seconds, then it starts to rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5sl27WgGPU
dap01
February 26th, 2012
9:09 am
Thanks, DOB.
Brave New World
February 26th, 2012
9:13 am
With Bourn leading off, bat Heyward second. He will see a ton of fastballs. Bat Chipper 3rd, McCann 4th, Freeman 5th, Uggla 6th, Prado 7th, and Pastornicky 8th. That lineup has speed, power, and offensive balance. GO BRAVES!
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
9:21 am
Good Morning Everyone
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
9:30 am
CF L Bourn
RF L Heyward
3B S Chipper
2B R Uggla
C L McCann
1B L Freeman
2B R Prado
SS R Pastornicky
Bourn and Heyward’s speed at the top makes alot sense. Heywards patience at the plate will give Bourn ample opportunities to steal a base.
Webster
February 26th, 2012
9:32 am
Pryguy— I lived in the Philly area (Bucks County) from ‘90-’08.
they only had WIP then and never spoke of the Phillies. Funny how all the stepford fans come out. Who are some of the hosts?
Webster
February 26th, 2012
9:35 am
Maybe this has already been discussed….but would the Braves have any interest in Gerald Parra? Could replace Bourne and serve as a backup to all 3 OF this season.
beekay
February 26th, 2012
9:41 am
DOB
Go to Publix or whatever the grocery store is down there and buy lunch meet, bread, chips and cookies and eat like the rest of us 99%ers. I’m sure the workers at Dark star will give you a discount on a Braves Lunch Box and a Claudell Washington thermos.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
9:46 am
Webster
Parra’s a nice little player. Parra is viewed as a everyday player and is in a weird situation right now. I have zero clue why the DBacks signed Jason Kubel, makes no sense. With an outfield of Parra, Young, Upton its one of the best defensive outfields in baseball. I’m sure he could be a solid CFer, gold glover in LF and looks like a guy who could have 15 Homer 25 stolen base potential.
richbrave
February 26th, 2012
9:47 am
Webster
February 26th, 2012
9:35 am
Maybe this has already been discussed….but would the Braves have any interest in Gerald Parra? Could replace Bourne and serve as a backup to all 3 OF this season.
Already did…………….oh wait…………..yeah, that’s JORDAN PARRAZ sorry! Got excited there for a minute.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
9:50 am
Webster
I wouldn’t count out Pastornicky being at the top of our lineup in 2013 either. All his tools indicate he has a solid future as a leadoff man.
Webster
February 26th, 2012
10:09 am
I think if Parra could be had FW should go get him. He could get a good amount of playing time between the 3 OF positions this season then be the CF next. Not saying he would/could be Bourne but a nice alternative.
beekay
February 26th, 2012
10:11 am
meant lunch meat not meet…on another note I see the Braves trading JJ to the Bosox before the all star break. Sox can’t compete with the Yankees with that rotation and the Angels, Rangers and Rays will battle for wild card.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:11 am
y’all realize that Parra has been a 683 hitter away from ‘zona, right?
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
10:14 am
I agree Webster, could be something the Braves entertain next offseason. I do think the Braves will be looking for our next CFer threw trade.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
10:20 am
Parra’s UZR doesn’t match his ADHD in the Desert, therefore won’t equate to RBI and ORZQ-bYts in the Ted. Make your own assumptions. Bill James does.
He did however throw Uggly out from LF while he was attempting to get to 3rd.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:22 am
what silliness…….
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:23 am
everybody knows that ORZQ-bYts is a misleading stat in high offense parks like ‘zona.
Lew
February 26th, 2012
10:23 am
I don’t usually propose lineups, but this once -
Bourn
Prado
Chipper
Uggla
Heyward
McCann
Freeman
Pastornicky
Lew
February 26th, 2012
10:25 am
Webster – Where in Bucks County? I’m from the Hatboro/Jamison area.
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
10:26 am
From Kenny R. on Twitter: Zimmerman deal is six-yr, $100M extension w full no-trade clause. Zim now guaranteed $126M over next eight yr, through 2019.
And from Buster: Zimmerman could make $150 million if 2020 option is realized. Second highest AAV for any 3bman; a-rod is first.
Jack Lill
February 26th, 2012
10:26 am
Why don’t the nut get busy and try to sign him?
Gil in Mechanicsville
February 26th, 2012
10:26 am
I can’t remember from whom or where I heard it but in discussing Pastornicky and what our expectations should be, said unknown person remarked that Pastornicky did not need to be the second coming of Raferal Furcal but if he was another Jeff Blauser that would be just fine. I have to admit it was a pretty astute observation and one I believe the young man is certainly capable of ascribing to.
Gil in Mechanicsville
February 26th, 2012
10:27 am
Enter your comments here
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
10:29 am
Hopefully Pastornicky will hit like Jeff Blauser just with more speed.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:31 am
LEW, Bucks is NE of Philly, kinda on a slope between Trenton almost to Allentown
Webster
February 26th, 2012
10:32 am
Lew—Perkasie. Up 309 toward Quarkertown. Used to work in West Point
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
10:34 am
At least you have a sense of humor, nolie. Some literally get offended by silly words people type.
Lew, me too. I think I would have JHey hit in front of Mac. Could give him some better pitches to hit. It should actually. Prado is best suited to hit 2nd. Guy hits seeds everywhere when he’s right and he’s usually always right when he’s healthy.
We’ll be alright. Pitching is solid and deep, the offense should be a touch better, maybe. Depends on Heyward imo.
Gil in Mechanicsville
February 26th, 2012
10:34 am
DOB, looks like the Lerners have decided it is finally time to pull out the check book and spend some of those millions they have made. A lot of National fans have been waiting for this time to come. I’m not sure Zimmerman is worth it but he is to the Nationals what Chipper Jones is to the Braves.
Still believe the Nats need a bit more pitching depth in their bullpen to overtake the Phillies but they have a pretty strong core of position players now, I would not be surprised to see them make a strong run at Bourn next year. They don’t seem to have any spending constraints any longer.
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
10:35 am
From NY Times story about Ryan Braun case. (Anyone who doesn’t think he used simply isn’t looking at facts and is only saying what they wish were the case.)
This was not a violation of protocol but rather the preferred approach, according to Travis T. Tygart, the chief executive of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. Any baseball player should prefer to have his sample in the custody of a trained professional — one agreed to by his union — than to have it sitting abandoned in some FedEx facility over the weekend, Tygart said. That way, the urine collector can be cross-examined about the chain of custody: What was the temperature of the basement? Did anyone else come into contact with the sample?
Lawyers for Major League Baseball argued there was no evidence that Braun’s sealed sample was tampered with before it reached a Montreal laboratory. And Braun apparently did not prove tampering had occurred. Nor, apparently, did he argue that the sample did not belong to him. Braun also did not challenge the science behind the positive test, Tygart said. Could the sample have degraded over the 48 hours in question to produce a false positive? “To say it degraded and created synthetic testosterone is contrary to logic and science,” Tygart said.
He added: “For synthetic testosterone to be in the urine, it had to come out of the body into the collection cup. Nothing voided would cause synthetic testosterone to magically appear in a urine sample. They never tried to argue that at all.”
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
10:36 am
I really could see Wren going after Parra as a OF backup. Depends on what he thinks of Constanza at this point. He can’t think that highly of him, can he? Flukey little stretch he had. His speed though is unreal, so IDK.
Webster
February 26th, 2012
10:36 am
If I were FW, I wouldn’t wait until next season. Az could go in a different direction or Parra’s price rises. If it can be done do it. Unless of course FW has an insight or resigning Bourne. We all say “if” but if CJ were to retire we would have Prado’s replacement already in house.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:38 am
yeah, they got lucky with a loophole. hopefully it will only happen the one time, but there might have to be some serious procedural changes to ensure iron tight chain of custody.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:40 am
like I said, Parra has not hit away from a very good hitter’s home park. unlikely to be much more than a 700 hitter in the Ted
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
10:41 am
beekay: It’s amazing I’ve lived this long without that kind of advice on how to procure food. (9:41 a.m.)
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
10:43 am
I believe this relationship Pastornicky has developed with Wilson will only be beneficial for him going forward. It seems like the kid has his head on straight… — pryguy
Yes, from all I’ve seen and heard from others, he certainly seems to have the right approach and attitude.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
10:44 am
it’s all a coverup. A coverup boiling down to money, just like most everything else. A player like Braun is $$$ in the eyes of MLB. He’s out for extended time, they fear losing a cent. Plus another wart on the game and Selig.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:49 am
Tyler’s dad was a pro baseball player right? He should have the right knowledge and approach
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
10:50 am
I don’t know why ya’ll keep on about Publix. They do have much more variety than Wal-Mart. But we did a little survey of the both and most of the basic stuff you need to make meals cost a lot less at Wal-Mart. You can get off brand stuff at WM compared to Publix brands and the only difference you’ll see is the savings you get.
Webster
February 26th, 2012
10:50 am
DOB: in your opinion is Pastornicky in the same mold as Blauser?
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:50 am
A player like Braun is $$$ in the eyes of MLB…CTB
while that may be true, but MLB was very unhappy about his getting a pass.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
10:50 am
May be off topic, but my fustration point is threw the roof and need to vent…. Lady in our area killed her baby and only got 7 years. I got a good question for older people who know laws and such better than me, im only 24. What’s the difference between killing a baby or an adult or hell even a dog in this country? I guess you’d have to kill a whole bus load of kids to get life? Or does that still not equal killing a police officer? Or I guess armed robbery is a worse crime than killing a baby? Cause I’ve seen people get more than 7 years? I know someone who just knocked out a pizza delivery guy and stole his car and got 12 years…. Or how about if a cop illegally finds cold hard evidence that someone killed someone but its get thrown out and the killer is let go? What in the world is going on? Super lack of common sense.. Sorry I couldn’t help it.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
10:50 am
Nolie, when I saw your post about Stallone’s attitude on gun control, I did a bit of research and found that he had applied for a concealed carry permit in L.A. in 2004. What a guy!
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:51 am
who would compare Publix brands and their deli creations to WalMarts? Have you no taste buds at all man????
Lew
February 26th, 2012
10:53 am
nolie – I know. I was born in Philly and lived the first 17 years of my life either there or in Central Bucks County. MY sister is still living in the same house in Bucks since 1954 – about a half hour from Trenton (or more appropriately on the Pa. side – Washington’s Crossing).
Webster – That sounds like Upper Bucks – a bit north of where our place is in Jamison.
Tn Brian – Yep, rather have Heyward hitting lower in a spot where his power (and it will be back this year) can drive in some of those runs we need to win the 3-2 games. And when Prado is on, he’s as good a number two hitter as there is.
Webster
February 26th, 2012
10:54 am
Va
Only 7 years??? THAT is a crime!!!
Lew
February 26th, 2012
10:55 am
I fully expect that with Prado hitting second behind Bourn, with his ability to go to right, we’ll have a lot of first and third situations with no one out this year. I want the booomers down in the order knocking those runners in.
Kat
February 26th, 2012
10:55 am
DOB @8:28 am
Johnny’s cover of Trent Reznor’s “Hurt,” with what remains the most poignant and powerful video I’ve ever seen, particularly the scene where June is looking down from the steps.
June died in May 2003, and Johnny died four months later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go
As a fan of the original before Cash did the cover, I’d say that the cover brings much more emotion than TRs.. or maybe it’s just more chilling to see someone Cash’s age be that honest about the end of his life in song. Very cool.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
10:56 am
nolie, Lew, ya’ll are vets. Can you believe what gas prices are nowadays? Holy shi*. Even I remember you used to be able to clean your windows while you gas is pumping and now you don’t even have time to throw a piece a can away before you hear “CLICK”.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
10:57 am
Main reason I like Heyward in the 2-hole is cause if prevents us from having 3 consecutive LHB’s in the lineup. Heyward has great plate discipline and patience to go with good speed and good power. He could easily lead the team in OBP. I’d like to see him get as many ABs as possible starting out and then hopefully batting 3rd sometime after the AllStar Break.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:57 am
I musta read your question as “where is Bucks County” rather than “where in Bucks County” LEW
nolie
February 26th, 2012
10:59 am
heck Brian I can remember gas @ 17.9 cents a gallon and they would have gas wars on a corner that went lower than that.
Lew
February 26th, 2012
10:59 am
TnBRian – Yeah, but Wal Mart does not make Publix Subs.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
10:59 am
My mom gets Publix deli foods all the time. I have some of her leftovers here. I was meaning the basic things for meals and costs. There’s no difference at all in taste.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
11:00 am
Webster
Yeah its crazy, while this may be the greatest country on earth I think the justice system is whack. Something isn’t right. Just not enough common sense. I’m about to go the virginia.gov and start looking at crimes and cases, it shows you people records and sentences. There is no organization when it comes to sentencing. None of it makes sense.
Lew
February 26th, 2012
11:01 am
nolie – No problem. I figured it was something like that. Not as if I’m ever going back there or anything. I’ll stick with Vermont from here on – with the five inches of new snow we got yesterday and all.
Bravissimo
February 26th, 2012
11:02 am
DOB…thanks for all the excellent reports.Hope you find something decent to eat down there.
Was just wondering if youre a Robert Earl Keen fan? Saw him on Austin City Limits last night. I could listen to him for hours!
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
11:02 am
When I first started driving, gas was in the .90’s
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
11:02 am
nolie, wow you’re old.LOL! The lowest I ever remember gas was the early 90’s when it was 82cents a gallon in Fort Ogelthorp. We lived on the border of TN/GA and that’s where mom would get her gas. The line was unreal.
Lew
February 26th, 2012
11:03 am
WalMart food stores are pretty good – I’ll give them that. Wish we had a super Wal Mart up here – there’s one down the street from us in Orlando and the prices are good and so is the food.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
11:03 am
You get more time in prison for kidnapping a baby over killing a baby
Lew
February 26th, 2012
11:04 am
When I moved from Atlanta to Macon in 71, gas was running .25 a gallon. Put a buck in that monster 66 Plymouth and drive for a day or two.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
11:04 am
Weird how gas prices go up, everything else goes up, but people’s pay goes down.
Lew
February 26th, 2012
11:05 am
Actually, that four gallons really only got you around the block in those gas guzzlers.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
11:07 am
I work in retail and all the shoppers year round is baffling to me. Where do these people get all this money? Places are packed full in certain areas of shoppers, etc and they say our economy is bad? I feel like we’re all living in a big lie. Government pockets this money and feed us BS.
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
11:07 am
Of course Mac would blame himself for the collapse. That’s the kind of guy he is. When things are going well, it’s NEVER because of him- always the other guys are playing so well. But when things fall apart, he points the finger at himself, even when it’s not true.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
11:08 am
Lady in our area killed her baby and only got 7 years
There has to be more to it than that. I’ll bet it was accidental with no malace
Kat
February 26th, 2012
11:09 am
Mario Manningham is leaving the Giants.. man I liked him. He’s headed to the Buccaneers. (And yes I know football season is over w/)
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
11:09 am
I really don’t know how young adults like me can actually start life. Funny how back in the day everyone was leaving home at 18, now you can’t leave.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
11:11 am
jeffrey d
She shook her baby to death. But the whole sentencing in this country is a joke. I don’t understand it. How can robbery or gta land you more time than killing? I’ve seen normal people get in trouble over dog fighting and such and get around 5 years, but you can shake a baby and only get 2 more years.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
11:11 am
But when things fall apart, he points the finger at himself, even when it’s not true.
Well he did hit .182 with 5 XBH since August 26th
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
11:12 am
VaBravesFan, sure. Another thing I was saying the other day that really struck me hard was what my wife was reading … those airheads from JerseyShore get around $50,000 for ONE episode of being drunk, moronic, herpes infested idiots while the working man bust his/her tail off for a full year are don’t see that kind of pay. Their net worths are in the millions.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
11:12 am
Geeeze….as the Braves lost 6 one-run games…including 2 to the Cards!
Whatever, it’s over now.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
11:14 am
I guess because it was still accidental. In dog fighting, armed robbery, etc. you have the intent of hurting/killing someone(thing)
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
11:14 am
ChatttownBrian
Yeah it’s insane. I’m top notch at my job but the company I work for went under. So now I’m working for some jack leg company making less money but working harder and doing more stuff. My dad has lost 7 dollars an hour in the past year. Thats a whole mortage payment.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
11:16 am
I’ve heard you can make more money standing on the side of the road holding a sign than working. lol I worked with a old man a while back he said he was homeless for 2 years and he made more money standing on the side of the road, than working as a bricklayer making 18 an hour. Thats crazy lol
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
11:17 am
Jeffrey-
Didn’t necessarily mean he didn’t have anything to do with September- just that he semms to put all the bad completely on himself, no matter how he is actually personally playing.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
11:19 am
ChattownBrian
Also those kids on Teen Mom and 16 and pregnant signed 4 year contracts with MTV they get around 50k for 1 season.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
11:20 am
yeah I buy most of my stuff at WalMart Super store. Best place in town by far. Few things from Winn Dixie and more from Publix, but staples from WM
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
11:24 am
You go through a lot of staples, nolie?
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:25 am
Manningham to the Bucs I hope he balls against the saints and stalls @Falcons Rise up GO Bravos
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
11:26 am
VaBravesFan, yeah that red headed girl and her kids dad live in Ooeltawah. I know, rediculous. All though MTV is about as disgusting as anything anymore. I used to love that station. Some pretty evil people own some very high dollar stuff. Anything to make more money, damn if it brainwashes young Americans.
JerseyGil
February 26th, 2012
11:27 am
DOB:
Workout at 1:00 Pm today?…..That mean no DAYTONA 500 for Chipper and the boys…
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
11:28 am
If young Americans are that easily brainwashed, then we have more to worry about than a couple of reality tv shows.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
11:28 am
yeah we have staple gun fights all the time, just gotta remember to wear safety glasses….
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
11:29 am
Sounds fun!
JerseyGil
February 26th, 2012
11:31 am
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120226_Phillies_Notes_.html
Setback for Ryan Howard?…Read the article in today Inquirer
Webster
February 26th, 2012
11:32 am
Lew— Yes, a bit of a ride from Jamison. Wished I still lived there. My wife was transferd ti IL in ‘08.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
11:40 am
Thank you Gil, Inquiring minds wanted to know….
Kat
February 26th, 2012
11:40 am
No comment on Walmart…..
nolie
February 26th, 2012
11:42 am
seems like a comment in itself Kat
nolie
February 26th, 2012
11:45 am
NTTAWWT
Kat
February 26th, 2012
11:45 am
nolie
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
11:46 am
nolie
February 26th, 2012
11:48 am
http://baseballinstinct.com/2012/02/07/prospect-instinct-2012-tyler-pastornicky-ss-atlanta-braves/
This offseason, the Braves did not offer Alex Gonzalez arbitration and now have an opening at the shortstop position for the 2012 season. Jack Wilson was re-signed but he will primarily be used as a backup utility and defensive replacement. In December 2011, manager Fredi Gonzalez sent Tyler Pastornicky an early Christmas present when he announced that they will go in-house to fill the shortstop position. Of course, things can still change but we think that Pastornicky is the right guy and right move. So who is this guy? We will be looking at him in more detail today.
Tyler Pastornicky was a fifth round pick by the Toronto Blue Jays in the 2008 MLB draft out of Pendleton High School in Bradenton, Florida. He spent two seasons in the Blue Jays’ Rookie and Single-A level before the Braves acquired him with Alex Gonzalez and Tim Collins for Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes in July 2010. The Braves really liked what they saw in Pastornicky: a good athlete, a hard worker and a player who hustles down the line. They also saw a young guy with who could hit, which has worked out for the Braves. We have covered Pastornicky in the past with David Reiffer’s Southern League Top Prospects – Hitters article. He also appeared at #6 in my coverage on the Atlanta Braves’ 2012 Top 10 Prospects and came in at #188° on our Baseball Instinct 360°.
The Braves are fairly aggressive with prospects they like and Pastornicky is someone they believe in. After the trade, they aggressively moved the 20-year old to AA Mississippi (Southern League) where he was not quite ready for the challenge. After the 2010 season, the Braves wanted to see more from their newest addition and sent him to the Arizona Fall League, where he played well and was selected to the 2010 AFL Rising Stars game. Something must have clicked for him as Pastornicky’s batting average has not looked back since.
In 2011, Pastornicky started in AA Mississippi again. Same story, same level, but much different results. This time, Pastornicky showed more consistency. His bat was more polished and he no longer struggled to hit against more advanced pitchers. In 2011, he hit .299/.345/.414 with a .115 ISO in the Southern League, was selected to the Southern League All-Star Game by his peers, and then followed that with a scorching hot finale for AAA Gwinnett (International League). He tagged AAA pitchersfor a .365/.407/.413 slash line before a high ankle sprain ended his 2011 season.
The Bat
Going into last year, Tyler Pastornicky never had a batting average above .270 despite a solid walk-to-strikeout ratio. His goal in the offseason after 2010 was to drive the ball more consistently and he undoubtedly achieved his objective. In the 2011 season, he hit .314/.359/.414, with 15 doubles, 5 triples, and 7 HRs, and he stole 27 bases in 38 attempts overall. Although Pastornicky’s .314 batting average was fueled by a .315 BABIP in the Southern League and an even higher.398 BABIP in the International League, he was certainly more consistent making contact with the ball. He’s a player that has a strong work ethic and hustles on and off the field. His hard work is clearly evident just by looking at his 2011 offensive line.
Pastornicky has a good feel for hitting, a polished bat, and a compact, level swing that generates a great deal of groundballs and line drives (53% and 25% in AAA), which partially triggered his high BABIP. His plus speed also allows him to run out infield hits. Power, on the other hand, is almost non-existent. Pastornicky does not have a lot of strength and his swing is fairly level and flat (both unpromising), so he will not be a deep HR threat. He will need to work on driving the ball with more authority in the big leagues. He did however take a Kenley Jansen hanging breaking ball deep and then hit for the cycle in July 2011.
In addition to a good feel for hitting, Pastornicky has a good approach at the plate. He’s had a fairly even walk-to-strikeout ratio at every stop so he has good strike zone judgment. This year, as his contact rate climbed, his individual walk rate and strikeout rate both dropped at an even pace. Strikeouts should be rare for Pastornicky as his K% has declined from 14.8% to 9.4% after he was traded to the Braves. He has the contact skills, plus speed, and instincts to develop into a solid top of the lineup hitter, but he will need to get on base more and continue to put the ball in play. He definitely has the patience and plate discipline as he’s had walk rates north of 10% in the past three years.
The Glove
Defensively, Tyler Pastornicky has some huge shoes to fill. After a year and a half of Alex Gonzalez, Braves’ fans are used to his smooth, natural range and glove. Dreams of winning a Gold Glove will not happen but Tyler Pastornicky has sound defensive fundamentals. For starters, he has major league bloodlines; his father is former third basemen, Cliff Pastornicky, who played 10 games for the Kansas City Royals filling in for an injured George Brett in 1983. Tyler Pastornicky is also athletic and agile and his speed makes him a slick fielder with superb range. With soft hands, quick footwork, and good baseball instincts, we have no questions that he can handle shortstop. The only issue is that his arm strength is just average at best.
In the four seasons Pastornicky has played since being drafted, he committed only 75 errors in 1,628 balls hit towards his direction – a .954 fielding percentage. Pastornicky’s career minor league fielding percentage won’t stand next to Alex Gonzalez’s .979 with the 2011 Braves, but a .950+ fielding percentage is also nothing to sneeze at. In fact, the 2011 season was Pastornicky’s worst fielding year (.942), but we believe he will hold his own playing short, at least adequate enough until potential Gold Glove prospect Andrelton Simmons is ready. There’s a very good chance that Pastornicky will be a better fit playing second base because of his average arm. He won’t be flashy like Gonzalez but his glove should be ready for shortstop this year.
Our Instinct
All eyes in the Braves’ camp will focus on Tyler Pastornicky this March. Braves management will take a real look at Pastornicky during Spring Training. He has good contact skills and a solid approach at the plate. No tool stands out but he’s a jack-of-all-trade shortstop player who consistently hits line drives, hustles hard on the field, takes a walk, and is an adequate defender. We do not think he’s the Braves’ long term solution at shortstop but he will be sufficient. Second base may be more realistic.
Pastornicky also has very acute baseball instincts to pinpoint his weaknesses. He utilized every offseason to improve areas in his game that need help. Last offseason, he worked on consistency and making contact. This offseason, after his ankle sprain was healed, he bulked up 10-11 lbs, adding strength and more speed to his game. It’s a good sign of his work ethic but how will that translate next year? The strength may help him drive the ball with more authority but we’re still not sure he’s going to be a huge offensive force for the Braves. Neither is he flashy with the leather but we consider him a “safe” shortstop prospect with an attainable floor.
Brava
February 26th, 2012
11:57 am
Just read the overnight comments. So, now, we all have to like the same music or face ridicule? Guess I shouldn’t be surprised, considering the source.
It must suck to think your opinion is so superior to that of others that you can’t disagree without making it personal.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:00 pm
My point was exactly what you said – that denigrating music just because you don’t like it is the problem. I have no problem when someone does not like music that I do. Sorry you misread what I said.
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:03 pm
I didn’t misread anything. As usual, when you disagree with someone, you have to belittle them or be condescending. It is impossible for you to have a civil discussion. That’s why your opinion no longer matters to me.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:06 pm
Then perhaps you should scroll on by my opinion, since, despite what you say, it seems to bother you.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:07 pm
VJ, whatcha gonna do for your Yvonne fix from now on?
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:08 pm
Twitter works for now – she’s back in Australia for a few months…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:09 pm
wonder if she’ll get another series soon. I’m not much for blonds but she is definitely cute
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:15 pm
It appears that the ESPN bus will be at Braves’ camp tomorrow (according to a Kincade tweet, at least)…
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
12:16 pm
You’re all insane. This is the only music that matters…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxFOOEOlBF8
Lew
February 26th, 2012
12:16 pm
We had a great music discussion early last evening and I found out there are some here who enjoy the same music I do that I never would have figured would like that type of tunes.
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:18 pm
Your opinions don’t bother me at all. Your unprovoked attacks on others is quite another story. It certainly lends nothing positive to the atmosphere of this blog.
Perhaps you should take your own advise and scroll by the comments of those whom you can’t seem to help yourself from attacking. After all, it’s not them who come off looking small and petty.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:20 pm
nothin’ like a good ol’ after church donnybrook to liven up a Sunday
Gil in Mechanicsville
February 26th, 2012
12:21 pm
Sigh… Different day, different people, same old blog…..
George
February 26th, 2012
12:22 pm
Who went off on you BRAVA? You are a good poster.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:22 pm
Four times in the past two weeks he has disaparaged Billy Joel or his music. I merely responded by disagreeing – there was no disparaging on my part. In no way was it an “unprovoked attack” – it was a simple rejoinder.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:23 pm
continuity and consistency are very important Gil……
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
12:23 pm
I think this music is more appropriate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5Sa2Yq-2g
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:24 pm
Brava is Tomahawkin’s mother hen on the ol’ blog George
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:24 pm
No one, George. It’s all good.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyPtSYQKV0c&feature=fvsr
I think this music is appropriate for today
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
12:26 pm
Brava
“Just read the overnight comments. So, now, we all have to like the same music or face ridicule? Guess I shouldn’t be surprised, considering the source.”
Bam! Co-Sign! on that…!
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:26 pm
George – I heard someone on the radio this morning pick the Reds as one of the 11 teams he thinks could win the World Series this year (of course, he also included the Braves)…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:26 pm
OUCH!!!!!
George
February 26th, 2012
12:27 pm
Ok, Brava I read previous page just a small misunderstanding with you and VJ.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
12:27 pm
Hugo Z Hackenbush
“You’re all insane. ”
I know!
“Insane In The Membrane!”
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:27 pm
Well apparently, Venice Jim, is Billy Joel’s mama on this ol’ blog, nolie. Good grief! Who cares if Tomahawkin disparages Billy Joel’s songs?
For the record, I despise Bruce Springsteen. Can’t stand his voice or his songs. Are you his mama, too?
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
12:28 pm
I Don’t lust For Hate!!! BANK ON IT!!!
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:29 pm
me? Bruce? why would you say that? But I am Billy Joels fairy godfather…..
George
February 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
It should be interesting to see wich 1ST BASEMAN, BRAVES or REDS, ends up with better stats this year.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
I’m his Tooth Fairy
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
No, I was asking Venice Jim if he’s Springsteen’s mama, nolie. I mean really? We can’t dislike certain artists without being ridiculed? Come the hell on.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
That was a great article by Mr. Hummer! Boy…
cabravesfan When things are going well, it’s NEVER because of him- always the other guys are playing so well. But when things fall apart, he points the finger at himself, even when it’s not true.
Hey! Just like some of our friends here in Blogland!…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:32 pm
Thanks, Hugo – I remember the first time he was on Laugh-In and being …well, I’m not sure what I was…
George
February 26th, 2012
12:32 pm
Billy Joel is not my cup of tea, but then that is just me.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:33 pm
Reds’ first baseman George
George
February 26th, 2012
12:34 pm
Why must they sing so much before they race?
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:35 pm
you don’t like Billy, George? well now I am just forced to hate on you, maroon ………
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:35 pm
I love Billy Joel and Journey, but I can respect the fact that Tomahawkin doesn’t.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
12:35 pm
When I saw that Willie Nelson vid, I misread it as “Amazing Grass.” God forgive me!
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:36 pm
I’ve been there Hugo….
George
February 26th, 2012
12:36 pm
OH NO, It is raining at DAYTONIA.
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:36 pm
That’s an awesome post, Hugo.
Juan
February 26th, 2012
12:36 pm
George
February 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
It should be interesting to see wich 1ST BASEMAN, BRAVES or REDS, ends up with better stats this year
I add also which one be in the Allstar 1st basement, that now Howard will be out till May..and no Pujols or Prince
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:37 pm
I love to hear Tomahawkin’s music comments…
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
12:37 pm
“Enchanted” is the word you’re groping for VJ.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:37 pm
Votto Rules!
George
February 26th, 2012
12:38 pm
Now STEVE PERRY can sing.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:39 pm
wait? Tomahawkin talks about music on the ol’ blog???
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
12:40 pm
He’s got his own entrance music….
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
12:41 pm
Maybe I just don’t notice, but does he still tell us that he’s leaving to go bump to specific tunes?
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
12:42 pm
Workout at 1 p.m., they’re walking out to the backfields now.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:42 pm
Hugo – I’m not sure as a 13 year old that he would have been what I found enchanting…
George
February 26th, 2012
12:42 pm
Not raining hard, people are standing out in it without covering up.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
12:42 pm
Yes, among other bodily functions
Kat
February 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
DOB @ 10:35 am
From NY Times story about Ryan Braun case. (Anyone who doesn’t think he used simply isn’t looking at facts and is only saying what they wish were the case.)
—————————————————————————————————————————————–
Thanks for posting this excerpt. If MLB decides to sue the arbitrators would that be the first time the league has done something like that?
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
As a fan of the original before Cash did the cover, I’d say that the cover brings much more emotion than TRs.. or maybe it’s just more chilling to see someone Cash’s age be that honest about the end of his life in song. Very cool. — Kat
Agreed, and Reznor said as much after hearing Cash’s version and being blown away by it. Reznor said something along the lines of, “It’s his song now.”
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
Maybe they’re half plant, George
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
Exhilarating?
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:44 pm
T’ is still a TMI kinda guy Jeffrey
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
12:44 pm
Was just wondering if youre a Robert Earl Keen fan? — Bravissimo
Yes. Some albums a lot more than others. But overall, definitely a fan.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:44 pm
“Amazed?”
George
February 26th, 2012
12:44 pm
Is it raining at DARK STAR?
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
12:46 pm
Appalled?
Soph
February 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
Different day, same story.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
George, it’s raining all over the world.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
All of the above?
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
First time I heard Johnny’s version of Hurt, I didn’t like it so much because it is so raw. Now it is one of my favorite songs- it has such a haunting quality about it…combined with the video, it’s heartbreakingly beautiful.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
But then he wouldn’t be Tomahawkin
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
12:48 pm
Soph – W&M-Ga State in women’s hoops today…I am very nervous…
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:48 pm
Hi Soph!
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
12:48 pm
@Brava
“For the record, I despise Bruce Springsteen. Can’t stand his voice or his songs.”
I like Springsteen…I got onto it after David Eckstein used “Born in the USA” as his batter intro music when he was in Anaheim…2000-2001ish
Soph
February 26th, 2012
12:50 pm
VJ – Hopefully, we can call it a sweep this weekend.
Hi cabalicious! You’re so right.
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
12:51 pm
Soph-
I usually am, but was there something specific that you are agreeing with?
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:51 pm
…in 1974, 25-year-old Bruce Springsteen played at the Harvard Square Theater in Cambridge. Although popular with the college crowd in the Northeast, Springsteen was not yet a star. That night, he and the E Street Band opened for Bonnie Raitt. The influential music critic Jon Landau was in the audience. Overwhelmed by what he heard, Landau wrote, “I saw my rock and roll past flash before my eyes. I saw something else: I saw rock and roll’s future and its name is Bruce Springsteen.”
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
12:52 pm
Raise your hand if you’re one of those — there were quite a few, here and on Twitter — who insisted the Braves should have taken a gamble on Grady Sizemore in the fall, despite his litany of recent injuries: http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2012/02/grady_sizemore_michael_brantle.html
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:52 pm
There’s just something about his voice that grates me, Tomahawkin. I’ve never liked him, although I do like his band.
George
February 26th, 2012
12:53 pm
Outta here to take Peanut out, then back in to see if they are going to race. Have a good one or two this afternoon y’all
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
12:54 pm
jeffrey d
“Maybe I just don’t notice, but does he still tell us that he’s leaving to go bump to specific tunes?”
Other Than some old Larry Larr, Rappin 4-Tay, and old Bone Thugs N Harmony, I haven’e been bumping a lot of stuff…usually I do that before gametime, I’m mellow in the offseason…
Not to MentionRap Blows Now and has for 5+ years going
I’m on that old 70-80’s rock since I listen to it at work while working on Heavy Machinery. Thats why I’m always listening to 97.1 The River in the morning….
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:54 pm
I have a question. Where is Efrim? Before my latest hiatus, he was the most prolific poster here, now he’s no where to be seen.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:55 pm
not me DOB, but then I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express the night B4 it was discussed here
nolie
February 26th, 2012
12:57 pm
He said that after the beginning of the year he would get too busy to post much because of work. He is a numbers guy, I wonder if he is into the tax scene in some way. Just guessin’ onviously
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:58 pm
Not me, DOB. I wanted Carlos Beltran who will likely also succumb to injury at some point.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
12:58 pm
@D.O.B.
Hell No to Sizemore…The only way I would Lust for him is if we were to sign him to a 1 year Incentive laden deal…
He’s too much of a risk for the Price….
L. Media Needs To Open their Penny Bank and Bring McCutchen Here to The “A” if those (Exepletive) care about the fans and team not being One and Done if and even if we Make the postseason, because the Athlon Sports Magazine doesn’t even have us making the playoffs
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:59 pm
Ah, that could be, nolie. Thanks.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
12:59 pm
@Brava
Efrim is still here…He usually blogs during the weekday mornings
nolie
February 26th, 2012
1:00 pm
I too wanted Beltran, even though as you say, the same thing could easily happen
George
February 26th, 2012
1:00 pm
Brava
February 26th, 2012
12:54 pm
I have a question. Where is Efrim? Before my latest hiatus, he was the most prolific poster here, now he’s no where to be seen
***************************************************************
Also BAT MASTERSON is among the missing.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
1:01 pm
I remember when we were all doing Tomahawkin intros when Bat came in to Hank’s “I’m so lonesome I could cry”
nolie
February 26th, 2012
1:02 pm
as has Snotboogie….
Brava
February 26th, 2012
1:02 pm
Oh, okay, Tomahawkin. I’ve been busy with several home improvement projects the last few weeks, so haven’t been on in the mornings. Trying to get everything caught up before the games start next Saturday.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
1:02 pm
Wow…Short Circuit is on, That Movie Used to Be The Shyt In The Mid 80’s
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
1:02 pm
Perfect timing- my all time favorite movie is starting now!!
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
1:03 pm
(not Short Circuit
)
George
February 26th, 2012
1:03 pm
TOMAHAWKIN AGREED on your 12:58
George
February 26th, 2012
1:04 pm
What title cab?
Brava
February 26th, 2012
1:04 pm
Bat is missing, too? Hopefully he shows back up when the games start.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
1:04 pm
Ef doesn’t post often at all anymore, I don’t think he even makes the top 25 list anymore let alone leads it
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
1:05 pm
Elvis, Cash, Jerry Lee, and Carl Perkins recorded together??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNvJUPpzCw
Juan
February 26th, 2012
1:06 pm
David O’Brien
February 26th, 2012
12:52 pm
Raise your hand if you’re one of those — there were quite a few, here and on Twitter — who insisted the Braves should have taken a gamble on Grady Sizemore in the fall, despite his litany of recent injuries:
http://capitolavenueclub.com/?p=4975
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
1:06 pm
Singin in the Rain
nolie
February 26th, 2012
1:06 pm
I think Soph said that Bat is dealing with some family health issues lately Brava
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
1:06 pm
Games Start Next Sat…I can’t wait to hear Boog Powell and Don Sutton on the radio again…Don Sutton Should Go back to TV though
All that is on TV is basketball now…I’d rather watch old Ricki Lake rather than Basketball, Unless Prince is playing
Brava
February 26th, 2012
1:07 pm
Oh, I’m sorry to hear that, nolie. Hope all goes well.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
1:09 pm
Not sure which was worse, 5 mil to Sizemore, or 5 mil to a pitcher who had an e.r.a. of 5.05 last year, who’ll be facing the dh this year.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
1:09 pm
@George
I dunno why but My Athlon Sports Baseball is Suck_ing off the Reds again to finish ahead of Atlanta after a Flop last year…
I guess they Suck them off so much because they play in a Garbage Division?
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
1:09 pm
guilty as charged on the sizemore matter
i’d have taken the chance and signed him
if it weren’t my money i was spending
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
1:14 pm
then again i would have signed beltran too, between the 2 of them maybe we
keep one healthy
Ray
February 26th, 2012
1:17 pm
I am glad the braves did not sign sizemore or beltran not for the money they signed for. Less of course but that was not going to happen. NC, that could be a new criteria on signing opinions. IF it was your money, would you sign player x for this amount of money. And you only have x amount dollars remaining.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
1:17 pm
Then you could’ve persuaded Hampton to go out of retirement, gary
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
1:20 pm
cabravesfan Singin in the Rain
Almost as good as The Music Man…
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
1:22 pm
McFann-
Better
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
1:28 pm
roflmao jeffrey d
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
1:29 pm
cabravesfan—
If you say so…
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
1:33 pm
I do
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
1:34 pm
maybe we can start an online game
call it so you want to be a general manager
get the payrolls for the teams , spin the wheel see which team you
draw
and when all the teams are filled have a draft, then use fantasy baseball rules
only you have to stay within the payroll limitations with your draft
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
1:35 pm
one of you software experts draw that up
and cut me in on a small percentage
kenhotlanta
February 26th, 2012
1:41 pm
jeffrey d: The Million Dollar Quartet has an album that you can prolly find on Amazon or eBay. All of those guys recorded for Sun Records in the early 50’s, they would play around in the studio recording together, and Sam Phillips was smart enough to put together an album of outtakes.
Individually, their Sun records are some of the greatest and most important recordings in history.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
1:41 pm
Oh Well, Time To Cool Out To some Cyndi Lauper, Teena Marie and some old Commodores…
BRB
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
1:44 pm
I’ve liked Johnny Cash but never really gotten too into him, but today’s discussion got me intrigued so I did a little Wikipedia reading before realizing he was alive and performing during Elvis’ time too. So I did a ctrl+f for Elvis, and there they were!
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
Is there a difference between bumping and cooling out?
Ray
February 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
nc, good idea but remove the top 10 teams in payroll. IF there are duplicates would be interesting how the contrast would look like. It would not be that hard if you have lets say the Yanks payroll. Make it a challenge, starting with team #11
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
1:48 pm
Just got back from backfield, where Tommy Hanson did some fairly strenuous running in the outfield. About 12-15 minutes of running series of perhaps three-quarter effort sprints from CF to LF foul pole and back. First time he’s been on field since the concussion Monday.
Not going to do any throwing until Monday or Tuesday.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
1:51 pm
cabravesfan—
Gene Kelly just kinda gives me the creeps…
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
1:54 pm
McFann-
BLASPHEMY!!! I LOVE Gene Kelly
George
February 26th, 2012
1:55 pm
Why don’t they put rain tires on the cars and just race? Aterall the fans are getting wet in the stands. The drivers would not get wet, they are in the cars. They play football in the rain don’t they?
George
February 26th, 2012
1:57 pm
The 1:55 written in jest of course.
George
February 26th, 2012
1:58 pm
Pal Joey was good.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
2:00 pm
If they asked me, I could write a book…
George
February 26th, 2012
2:03 pm
PETER GAMMONS on DAN PATRICK show said REDS would be good this year.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:07 pm
Remember last year I wrote wondering why it was still light out in SF at start of game at 10:00 pm when it was full dark in ATL at same time.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:10 pm
Aww, I killed the blog yet again.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
2:12 pm
Not completely…
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
2:13 pm
cabravesfan—
Whoops, sorry!
Knew I shouldn’ta brought it up…Well, that’s OK, you don’t have to like Cary Grant if you don’t want to… 
George
February 26th, 2012
2:13 pm
Good VJ.
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
2:14 pm
But I do like Cary Grant
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
2:15 pm
MLB @MLB
BREAKING: @Twins reliever Joel Zumaya out for the season with torn ulnar collateral ligament in right elbow.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:16 pm
Wow McFann, you really know who GARY GRANT was.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
2:18 pm
McFann – ever see Arsenic and Old Lace with Cary?
George
February 26th, 2012
2:21 pm
Really funny movie.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:23 pm
Harold and Maulde was very good.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
2:23 pm
cabravesfan—
Ha, yeah, I was just funnin’…
George—
Of course I know who Cary Grant was! I wasn’t born yesterday…and I’m a woman…
V. Jim—
No…but I have seen lots of shows that mention it…
Ray
February 26th, 2012
2:24 pm
Random question, Does it seem that winning a Gold Glove has lost some of its distinguished honor?
George
February 26th, 2012
2:25 pm
The Sweetest Thing was a bit off-color, but very funny.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:26 pm
OH, And Born Yesterday also a funny movie.
wins-by-a-link
February 26th, 2012
2:27 pm
Whether Bourn returns next season depends on who owns the Braves, If Liberty Media decides to sell the Braves, Which they might do then Bourn will be signed to a multi yr contract along with other needs that FW thinks the Braves need to compete with the Phillies and Marlins, New owners will change the way FW does business by allowing him to make changes that are not possible with present ownership, Lets hope Liberty Media does the right thing and sells the Braves.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:28 pm
WALKING DEAD new tonight.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
2:29 pm
Good music in Harold and Maude…
Ray
February 26th, 2012
2:29 pm
wins, I don’t think there has been any indication that LM is going to sell the Braves.Possible of course, but unlikely.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:33 pm
Yup Cat Stevens, I don’t agree with his politics but he sure could and I guess still can sing.
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
2:35 pm
Hanson playing catch now in right field, his first throwing of any kind since the concussion on Monday.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:36 pm
Still raining at Daytona.
George
February 26th, 2012
2:37 pm
Won’t hurt to throw a bit.
TNScott
February 26th, 2012
2:41 pm
DOB: Every time I hear someone claim that they failed a drug test because of elevated testosterone levels and claim they are clean I wonder about it. I remember back in ‘07 when Chris Lofton failed a drug test because of elevated testosterone levels. The doctor told him there could be only one other reason for a positive test that being testicular cancer which he had. The positive test probably saved his life.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
2:46 pm
Ray
“Random question, Does it seem that winning a Gold Glove has lost some of its distinguished honor?”
It Has I Think! That award isn’t what it used to be…It has lost merit since 2005
I mean Nate Mclouth Won A Gold Glove out of Sympathy for the Pirates, Go Figure!
That was prolly Dud Selig Who nominated him for it?
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
2:54 pm
Just Saw an Overhead shot of the field at Darkstar on Facebook…Its Looks cool and overcast…
As a Favor They Should Move the Heyward Tents To The Ted to create more Tailgating/Party Rooms…And Take Tooner Field to 6 Flags I don’t think that place does any revenue like it used to?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
2:58 pm
That Gene Kelly is one heckuva dancer, though…
Donald O’Conner’s great, too—and funny…
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
3:01 pm
McFann-
Thought you would like Donald O’Conner
And yes, Gene Kelly is kinda good at dance
DiamondbackMac
February 26th, 2012
3:03 pm
Cab
Don’t forget, “Bringing up Baby” and “His Girl Friday”
Ray
February 26th, 2012
3:04 pm
Toma, I agree.. Parra winning it. I wonder how many fans outside of AZ even know who he is? Winning the Gold glove used to be deemed a high honor by the fans. Even myself as big of a baseball fan I am, I will look at who wins and then its more of a shrug.
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
3:05 pm
D-backMac-
Gotta admit I’m not at all familiar with either.
pryguy
February 26th, 2012
3:15 pm
Webster,
I’m in West Chester area…the hosts of a few of the shows are Mike Missinelli, Jonny Marks, Sean Brace, Phil from Mt Airy, Baldy and Mais to name a few. I’ve called in a few times when they were discussing the upcoming baseball season. The points I have made I feel hold much value. What the Phillies have on the Braves last year and I believe going into this year is the consistency in quality starting pitching. The Braves starters are quality as well, but do not go as deep into games as the Phillies studs do. We saw what effect this had on the bullpen, which I would take the Braves pen over any pen in MLB right now. I do believe this Braves line up is much more dynamic and has a greater potential to be effective throughout the entire season in comparison to the Phillies. It’s those nasty starters that allow them to maybe stay ahead of the Braves again this year, but that gap is much closer than these arrogant, obnoxious Philadelphians think. They are already assuming the NL East crown is won. And I do not think that is remotely close to the truth this year as the Braves have in my opinion a beautiful mixture of veterans and rookies/2nd year/3rd year players.
Needless to say, my expectations are high. That goes for you too, DOB.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
3:27 pm
cabravesfan Thought you would like Donald O’Conner
Yikes—What does that mean?…
brian
February 26th, 2012
3:27 pm
thanks for the update again DOB – Hanson’s progress is absolutely key to the Braves for 2012 and beyond – another young pitcher with true ace potential but also question marks
brian
February 26th, 2012
3:30 pm
it probably has been mentioned but could someone tell me who is slated to start the Grapefruit opener?
nolie
February 26th, 2012
3:33 pm
why is it grapefruit and not lemon or orange????
brian
February 26th, 2012
3:40 pm
good question nolie – who likes grapefruit? It is an acquired taste
Hugo Z Hackenbush
February 26th, 2012
3:40 pm
It’s more euphonic.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
3:40 pm
brian
“thanks for the update again DOB – Hanson’s progress is absolutely key to the Braves for 2012 and beyond –”
Beyond? Are You World Serious? However, We do Need Him to come correct this year though, but he needs run support
and BTW Big Red Will Not Be With the Braves after 2014, Bank On It!
brian
February 26th, 2012
3:43 pm
amazing that Zumaya is out again. When he and Verlander were coming up, some even said that Zumaya may have better stuff. Amazing how some people’s body hold up and some, despite immense talent, fall apart.
Didn’t the Braves and Bobby Cox have a lot of comments years back after facing the TIgers in preseason when they faced Verlander and Zumaya??
brian
February 26th, 2012
3:47 pm
I am serious. THe Braves need an ace to lead their rotation. THe runs are a given that we will need. I am banking on the fact that people will return from career worst years. No way can that happen 2 years in a row.
Pitching, as always will be key. We burned up our dominant bullpen due to young starters that did not go deep in the game. Hanson can be one of the most dominant pitchers in the game. We need Hanson to take over #1 with Huddy #2.
As far as how long Hanson will be with us….It depends on how he develops and the development of our young pitchers, especially the big 3. Way to early to declare outright that Hanson will not be here in 2 years
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
3:48 pm
The prophet Tomahawkin…..
nolie
February 26th, 2012
3:55 pm
grapefruit can interact dangerously with several medications
CB
February 26th, 2012
3:56 pm
Prophet-highly ulikely. Opinionator- most certainly.
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
3:57 pm
McFann-
Just that his personality and dancing seems like it wold appeal to you
He’s enjoyable to watch
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:02 pm
Donald O’Connor would be right down McFann’s alley. He is the actor who played opposite Francis the Talking Mule in a series of movies which were the inspiration for her beloved Mr. Ed series.
CB
February 26th, 2012
4:04 pm
What is creepy about Gene Kelly? nolie,on the other hand……
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
those are both great Cary movies cab, you should watch them
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:08 pm
nolie is a creep, no doubt
CB
February 26th, 2012
4:10 pm
Just seeing if you are awake,nolie.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
4:11 pm
We know for sure Center Field will be a need after the season, There will be a few options in free agency including our own Michael Bourn. I see those options getting good pay days. The Braves don’t have any in-house options ready to step in. So the Braves will either have to spend some money or make a trade. A few names to keep in mind are Denard Span and Peter Bourjos.
Notible Free Agent CFer in 2013.
Longterm Options Bourn(30) Upton(28) Victorino(32)
Stopgap Options Ross(32) Pagan(31) Bryd(35)
Possible Trade Options Bourjos(25) Span(29) Crisp(32) Stubbs(27)
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
4:12 pm
nolie-
I will freely admit I am not the biggest fan of old movies, although the ones that I have watched with VJ I have enjoyed quite a bit (the Bishop’s Wife, Butch Cassidy, a few others who’s names are not coming to me…I loved Singin in the Rain long before I knew VJ)…maybe I will give those a look
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:15 pm
those two are examples of what was called screwball comedy. kinduva romcom with a lot of snappy one liners
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:16 pm
Ill take the Flyin’ Hawaiian
CB
February 26th, 2012
4:19 pm
I like Bourjos, proposed trading Minor for him recently and got attacked. Still believe it would be a good trade for both teams.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:21 pm
and you shoulda been assailed ya big dummy…….
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
4:22 pm
nolie
Do you think the Braves rather dish out a 4 or 5 year deal to a CFer or trade minor league talent for someone like Peter Bourjos or sign a stop gap type (cheap route)
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
4:23 pm
CB
I would do a Minor for Bourjos trade in a heartbeat. I think they would want more tho.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:24 pm
lets say that I don’t see many in your list that they will be interested in, and their history is one of preferring trades so I’d look for a trade if they do not sign Bourn
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
4:25 pm
@Brian…
Our Pitching Is Not The Problem…Its was our Inconsistant Ass offense that let us Down all year last year
And I might just make the Proposal of Batting Ugg 3rd this year if and only if he doesn’t leave his bat in Florida in April And May…
And If I’m not mistaking Ugg Hit 3rd a lot when he was with the Marlins with a lot of table setters in front of him who would steal bases and wreck havoc, causing opposing pitchers to throw him nothing but fastballs
CB
February 26th, 2012
4:25 pm
You hurt my feelings,nolie.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:26 pm
I was just kidding CB, I would have been very interested in that trade
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
4:29 pm
I think Bourjos will end up being a more valuable player than Mike Minor.
CB
February 26th, 2012
4:29 pm
I kind of thought you did. Ha!
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:30 pm
Uggla hits the best in the 4th slot IIRC.
Ray
February 26th, 2012
4:30 pm
Besides the Braves, assuming that Bourn does not get an extension during the season, what other teams will be in need of a CF’r?
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
4:31 pm
I’m not sure how eager the Angels are to trade Bourjos. They may be listening to offers, but I don’t think they are inclined unless they get a completely overwhelming offer…
CB
February 26th, 2012
4:31 pm
Va,I believe he will have a better career than Bourn. A world of potential,needs a little better contact.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:31 pm
Dan does have good numbers at third slot but in only 71 at bats
Lew
February 26th, 2012
4:32 pm
Yep, people act like I’m crazy as hell when I rant against acquiring chronically injured players. Sizemore is no surprise. Just waiting until Beltran goes down, too. It never fails.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:32 pm
well its not as if Bourn is all that good a contact hitter either
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:33 pm
well it did fail last season on Beltran Lew
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
4:35 pm
cab
I don’t think Bourjos is to that level yet, Right now he’s mainly known for his top tier center field defense. At the plate he’s only a 253/303/423 career hitter so far. Has really good speed as well. Could be a really good leadoff man if he can improve with the bat. I see him becoming a 15 Homer 30 SB type guy with Gold Glove defense IMO
Lew
February 26th, 2012
4:36 pm
nolie – Contract year. Just wait and see.
Lew
February 26th, 2012
4:37 pm
And he wasn’t all that healthy last year, either – but for a change, he played.
cabravesfan
February 26th, 2012
4:38 pm
VaBravesFan-
What I mean is that there really is no rush for the Angels to trade him- especially with Poujols’ big bat on board now, and the potential of Mike Trout. They really like Bourjos, and I doubt they will part with him unless the deal is one they simply can’t turn down. They have pitching. They have power. His defense and speed will be a great compliment to the team…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:38 pm
those are pretty good numbers for a CFer now days, Va. not many around who hit all that much better
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
4:39 pm
If Bourn made more contact he’d be a way better hitter. 140 Ks is a ton for a player of his type.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
4:40 pm
I really do not care if a lead off hitter strikes out a lot as long as his OBP is pretty good
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
4:41 pm
Donald O’Conner is fun to watch, for sure…I should watch Frances the Talking Mule sometime…
richbrave
February 26th, 2012
4:42 pm
BOURN’s contract year. BRAVES win the WS.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
4:48 pm
I’d love to see Bourn have a career year and help the Braves win the world series. Something like a 300/360/370 line with 15 triples and 60+ stolen bases would do the trick
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
5:04 pm
@VaBravesFan
With an Effective Running Game, The Bourne Identity can steal 60+bases. J-Hey can steal 20 and Martini can steal a dozen…
Its on Bobby Lite (Fredi) to enforce that…The Roid era is over the team needs to stop relying on Ugg, B-Macc and Chipper to hit the 3 run homers…Especially for the fact the Ugg K’s too much and B-Macc and Chipper will only be in 135 games apiece, respectively…
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
5:08 pm
VaBravesFan
“If Bourn made more contact he’d be a way better hitter. 140 Ks is a ton for a player of his type.”
Good Point, with a right hitting Coach and A Dope Lineup who can work the counts…The Bourne Identity Could Clown…
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
5:09 pm
Pastornicky should be able to get 15-20 steals too.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
5:11 pm
Prado is a horrible base stealer
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
5:14 pm
Time To Watch old School Nickelodeon Shows especially : “My Brother And Me” and Wild And Crazy Kids
I think only Soph, Jeffrey D, McFann, The Grinch, and a few others know abt that old Nickelodeon
I’m missing a few others, Help?
Mark's for the Braves
February 26th, 2012
5:15 pm
Here’s to Pastornicky having a good rookie season–could we have two straight ROY? It’s ok to dream, isn’t it?
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
5:17 pm
@VaBravesFan
My Athlon Sports Baseball Magazine says that The Pastor can steal 20…But it’s dependant on Bobby-Lite…
Fredi better utilize the running game this year, if he doesn’t make the playoffs he will be on the Hot Seat….
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
5:20 pm
What about All That, Keenan and Kel, Are you afraid of the dark?? Or were those on a different channel? I dont remember.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
5:21 pm
Pastornicky should get the green light alot with 2 outs and Bourn batting. The risk is worth the reward, if Pastor is thrown out you lead off the next inning with Bourn, no brainer.
DS1
February 26th, 2012
5:25 pm
I hear the train a comin’
It’s rollin’ ’round the bend,
And I ain’t seen the sunshine,
Since, I don’t know when,
I’m stuck in Folsom Prison,
And time keeps draggin’ on,
But that train keeps a-rollin’,
On down to San Antone.
When I was just a baby,
My Mama told me, “Son,
Always be a good boy,
Don’t ever play with guns,”
But I shot a man in Reno,
Just to watch him die,
When I hear that whistle blowin’,
I hang my head and cry.
I bet there’s rich folks eatin’,
In a fancy dining car,
They’re probably drinkin’ coffee,
And smokin’ big cigars,
But I know I had it comin’,
I know I can’t be free,
But those people keep a-movin’,
And that’s what tortures me.
Well, if they freed me from this prison,
If that railroad train was mine,
I bet I’d move out over a little,
Farther down the line,
Far from Folsom Prison,
That’s where I want to stay,
And I’d let that lonesome whistle,
Blow my Blues away.
The Man in Black woulda been 80 today! RIP!
(I’m sure this has been talked about already today, but just wanted to chime in………..
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
5:28 pm
Its Blind optomism to think The Pastor will win R.O.Y.
We Just need the Pastor to be a 1991 version of Little Big Man Lemke…hitting 8th…
If anyone agrees? Then Give me a Hell Yeah!
DS1
February 26th, 2012
5:29 pm
Doesn’t seem like it has been over 8 years since June and Johnny have left us……….
TexasBrave
February 26th, 2012
5:31 pm
Yes but the Pastor will get more at bats in front of the pitcher with either two outs or will be sacrificed over. And you don’t what him stealing with two outs and the pitcher up.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
5:31 pm
VaBravesFan
“What about All That, Keenan and Kel, Are you afraid of the dark?? Or were those on a different channel? I dont remember.”
No That was Saturday SNICK…That was good Shyt..Along with the “Secret World of Alex Mack…
That Alex Mack Chick on that Show was Fune!!!! She was on that movie Clueless as well but that movie sucked
DS1
February 26th, 2012
5:35 pm
T
To be honest, if The Rev can just be steady in the field and hit anything north of 250/300/350 I’d be happy with his first year. Those are better offensive numbers that Lemke was giving in his early years.
keyLargo
February 26th, 2012
5:38 pm
Here’s to Pastornicky having a good rookie season–could we have two straight ROY? It’s ok to dream, isn’t it?
There was this kid named Heyward who lost out to a Pose(r)y. But don’t get too excited. The two years before that it was Chris Coughlan and Geovanni Soto.
ncgary
February 26th, 2012
5:42 pm
yeah imagine that i wanted to take a chance on that injury waiting to happen ellsbury last year. that would have been the pits for the money he signed for
Billy
February 26th, 2012
5:44 pm
Jim Bowden
Mike Rizzo confirmed the Nationals are still in the market for a long term solution in centerfield… Sirius 209 and XM 89
The Nats have a wealthy, wealthy owner who would likely open the vault for Bourn and make the offer so high the Braves may have a hard time matching it, providing Bourn has a good year.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
5:44 pm
@DS1
Co-Sign on that 535 post…If he Clowns Harder than that (Like Come Up Clutch against The Phillies in late season games and be a pest to them) he will get A lot of Love on here….!
TexasBrave
February 26th, 2012
5:50 pm
I would also be happy with some quality at bats unlike those we got from Gonzo last year. Needs to have patience because with the pitcher behind him he is not likely to see much of anything good to hit. His objective should be to get on base to clear the pitcher. Doing that can open a lot of possibilities.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
5:51 pm
If I wasn’t a Braves fan I would be a National fan.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
5:54 pm
Pastornicky will provide more quality ABs than SeaBass did. Pastor will make contact a hell of alot more and take walks. Should make more productive outs, and the added speed is a plus as well. But he will not provide any power.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
5:57 pm
*contact*
Jay212033
February 26th, 2012
5:59 pm
DOB, How is Simmons looking at the plate and in the field?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
5:59 pm
Tomahawkin—
Actually, I don’t watch Nickleodeon…although I may have a long time ago if they’re the ones that used to show The Flintstones…
keyLargo
February 26th, 2012
5:59 pm
If I wasn’t a Braves fan I would be a National fan.
Well, that’s just you. If I wasn’t a Braves fan I think I want to be a Labrador Retriever.
Gil in Mechanicsville
February 26th, 2012
5:59 pm
VaBravesFan You are like me, while I am still a Brave’s fan, you can’t help but watch the Nationals seeing as the are the homeboys after all.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
6:00 pm
The Nationals have a supporting owner, good baseball people and a excited fan base. Should be a fun to to watch. I get to see all there games where I live.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
6:05 pm
@McFann
The Flintstones were on old TBS
But on the Real-Tip..You Didn’t watch Doug, The Rugrats or Hey Arnold when both of those Shows were hot on the streets
That was good TV! Oh and don’t get my yeller Ass Started on Bobby’s World and the old Power Rangers
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
6:07 pm
Rugrats and Hey Arnold man those were the days haha
keyLargo
February 26th, 2012
6:08 pm
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Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
6:09 pm
TexasBrave
“I would also be happy with some quality at bats unlike those we got from Gonzo last year. Needs to have patience because with the pitcher behind him he is not likely to see much of anything good to hit. His objective should be to get on base to clear the pitcher. Doing that can open a lot of possibilities.”
Co-Sign! Watching Gonzo Throw away at-bats last year made me Act Girly like Prince on the blog last year…
The Pastor will win a lot of fans on here if he makes pitchers work and has productive at bats
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
6:11 pm
VaBravesFan
“Rugrats and Hey Arnold man those were the days haha”
Hey Arnold Was The Shyt! As Well as old Wild And Crazy Kids And Double Dare
And Nickelodeon Guts!
keyLargo
February 26th, 2012
6:14 pm
I don’t know about you guys, but I think I’ll just bust a gut and pay it all at once. After all you save, you save , you don’t save a dam cent as matter of fact.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
6:14 pm
I don’t remember Wild and Crazy or Double Dare
Ray
February 26th, 2012
6:15 pm
If Fredi, has Pastor batting 8th, and its 2 outs, I don’t see Fredi sending the kid a lot. IF he gets thrown out then we have the pitcher batting again to lead off the next inning.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
6:18 pm
Ray
Pastor on 1st base with 2 outs and Bourn batting is when he’ll run often.
VaBravesFan
February 26th, 2012
6:24 pm
Ready for Walking Dead tonight? Also looking forward to Ax Men
Ray
February 26th, 2012
6:31 pm
Va, that I agree with. I thought you were saying with the pitcher up.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
6:34 pm
if Tyler is hitting 8th, his speed will be of some help when the pitcher bunts
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
6:46 pm
Tomahawkin—
Ah! Old TBS…I think they were on Cartoon Network at some point, too…
Nah, we never watched any of those other shows—really didn’t watch a whole lot of TV back when we were real young aside from Barney, Disney Sing-Alongs, New Adventures of Winnie-the-Pooh, The Flintstones, and then VeggieTales…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
6:53 pm
looks like the Braves are doomed to third in the division, not sure if we should even bother to watch the games…..
Billy
February 26th, 2012
6:56 pm
Best scenario with none or 1 out Pastor reaches first and steals second. Pitcher bunts him to third
Next scenario Pastor reaches and pitcher bunts him to second
Worst scenario Pastor reaches pitcher fails to move him over Pastor can’t steal and is stranded at 1st with Bourn coming to plate. Pitcher fails at moving runner over
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
7:02 pm
CB What is creepy about Gene Kelly?
I don’t even really know…just rubs me wrong for some reason…
But there’s no denying he’s got some serious talent…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
7:05 pm
never that big a fan of Kelly, but then I am not a fan of dance movies for the most part either
Singing in the Rain being a notable exception. Great movie.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
7:08 pm
and Ginger Rogers did everything that Fred did, and had to do it backwards to boot
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
7:23 pm
I have nothing to add at the moment, I just wanted to clear cab’s name from the Name Box so I don’t inadvertently post as her since she is out and about…
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
7:35 pm
nolie—
Yeah, watching it today, I was reminded just how good that one is…
But my favorite is still The Music Man with Robert Preston and Shirley Jones…
brian
February 26th, 2012
7:43 pm
doomed to 3rd in the division? Really. Based on what??
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
7:44 pm
Just noticed that The Man Who Would Be King is on TCM on Tuesday – I have needed to introduce cab to that – she is a big Connery fan, so I suspect she will enjoy it almost as much as I do. The first time I “watched” it was back at home when we did not subscribe to HBO, but you could still get the sound with a very wavy picture…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
7:45 pm
brian – he is making fun of the doomsayers…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
7:49 pm
Dang – now I’m nolie’s mama…
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
7:49 pm
Freeman ready for challenges of sophomore season
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/02/26/freeman-ready-for-challenge-of-sophomore-season/
George
February 26th, 2012
7:52 pm
The BRAVES futures game at the end of ST should have some real meaning. If some way or the other Bobby can take the minor kids and beat FREDI and the chokers from last year, FREDI should promise to resign on the spot
George
February 26th, 2012
7:54 pm
FREDI and the chokers, good name for a rock band.
kenhotlanta
February 26th, 2012
7:58 pm
The hosts for the Oscars Red Carpet show are a bunch of pretentious cretins.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
7:59 pm
George…do you expect the MLB Braves will be concerned with going all out to win a game 2 days before the season starts?
George
February 26th, 2012
8:04 pm
Outta here , going to watch one of the funnyest shows on tv, WORST COOKS then late showing of WALKING DEAD. Have a good one or two tonight y’all. Still think they should have put on rain tires and run the race. lol.
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
8:27 pm
So George was the life of the party, eh?
nolie
February 26th, 2012
8:35 pm
thank you mommy…..
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
8:39 pm
I found our old buddy Bitchell on Schultz’ blog
Bobby Cox lost four World Series in nine years.
Why should it come as any surprise that “they’re all here” after missing the playoffs last year?
They won fourteen division titles in a row and barely made the playoffs one year out of the six since.
Give me a freakin’ briz-ache.
This is a loser organization with nothing but a bunch of hack reporters who do nothing but kiss @$$ for a living.
He makes me sad for him
jeffrey d
February 26th, 2012
8:41 pm
Keep in mind…this was an article talking about the positive outlook the Braves have during spring training that made no mention of Bobby Cox
Ray
February 26th, 2012
8:44 pm
jeffrey d, people like that have no clue of what they are talking about. NONE. People like that I would challenge any day of the week with facts and knowledge of the game. Not opinions but actual facts and knowledge. I can assure you I have forgotten more baseball than they would ever know.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
8:44 pm
Mitchell, Robert etc living in their own lil’ world. logic is not welcome there
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
8:45 pm
You’re welcome…
Ray
February 26th, 2012
8:56 pm
nolie, I guess they were the kid that was selected for their youth team only because every kid had to be picked and they blame everyone.
DiamondbackMac
February 26th, 2012
9:00 pm
McFann & Cab
Another really good old comedy is “We’re No Angels” with Humphrey Bogart, Peter Ustinov, and Aldo Rey. Don’t confuse it with the not so good Sean Penn movie with the same name.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
they invest too much of their own feelings of self worth in whether their team wins or loses, and when it does poorly they take it personally, disappointment causes hard feelings and the need to find someone to blame their negative feelings on
Ray
February 26th, 2012
9:05 pm
I totally get the disappointment but the over the top reactions… the team is the worst they are losers they will never win. Its like Really? If you feel that way why even turn on a game? My suggestions for them is each season for them.. switch teams throughout the season and the playoffs and the team that is going to win the world series pull for them at the last minute, that way they can feel good.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
9:11 pm
DBackMac—
Really? I’d never heard of that one…I’ll keep that in mind if it’s ever on…
Don’t confuse it with the not so good Sean Penn movie with the same name.
Haha! Don’t worry…
nolie
February 26th, 2012
9:11 pm
doesn’t work that way for many after the original investment.and they are so negative so they don’t have high expectations. high expectations lead to greater disappointment.
safest to be a pissymist. if things go bad you are all ready for it and if they go good it is an unprojected perk
Kat
February 26th, 2012
9:12 pm
If you’re not up for the Oscars… MLB Network is doing Top 10 Catchers.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
9:12 pm
enuff Sophomore Psych……..
Bravofan
February 26th, 2012
9:17 pm
Has anyone been to Yankees spring training camp? I may get a chance to go. Wondering if it’s worth it.
Kat
February 26th, 2012
9:18 pm
They gave McCann #7 in the majors …re: Top 10 Catchers on MLB Network. Even the hosts think he should be in the top not number 7. Haha… they’re all surprised that he’s at 7.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
9:19 pm
Kat MLB Network is doing Top 10 Catchers.
That could be int’resting…current or all-time?…
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
9:20 pm
Number seven? Now I really hope they’re doing all-time…
Kat
February 26th, 2012
9:25 pm
Nope McFann it’s current catchers. Like I mentioned even the hosts were shocked at that ranking. They even had a image on the screen that compared his offensive numbers to the best catchers of all time. So no idea who ranked those top 10 for MLB Network…
sidslidkid
February 26th, 2012
9:25 pm
McFann, Top 10 Catchers Right Now (not all time). I just turned it off. I thought it was fishy when Yadier Molina was #8 and then they listed McCann at #7 and I realized this list isn’t too realistic.
Blog Monitor
February 26th, 2012
9:37 pm
Nolie, so true about some of these over the top negative types..
Only one team can win it all, so that is going to lead to a lot of dissappointed fans, you can’t get that invested in it that it makes you miserable.
It is after all just a game. I love the game, I love the Braves, but the day after they were eliminated, the sun still rose, and life went on..
But just because I didn’t get all upset and kick the dog, doesn’t mean I am not a “true” fan..
Kat
February 26th, 2012
9:40 pm
That Circus Du Soleil number on the Oscars makes me excited for the show I’m seeing in Vegas in May. That was pretty cool looking.
Blog Monitor
February 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
DOB,
what have they done to the blog in the last few weeks that changed the way the page refreshes? I used to be able to hit refresh and it updated from the latest post, now it takes me to the top of the page every time and I have to scroll back down.
Anders also asked about this yesterday, is it happening to anyone else?
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
9:43 pm
sidslidkid
“McFann, Top 10 Catchers Right Now (not all time). I just turned it off. I thought it was fishy when Yadier Molina was #8 and then they listed McCann at #7 and I realized this list isn’t too realistic.”
I Turned It off Too..And Started Listening to some Carrie Underwood…MLB Network was Hating on B-Macc and Suck_ing off Buster Poser!
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
9:47 pm
Blog Monitor – not me…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
9:54 pm
mine either
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
9:56 pm
Kat So no idea who ranked those top 10 for MLB Network…
Hmm……I don’t wanna name names…
sidslidkid—
Wow…they even put Molina up there? Thought he was a fave after this past season…Man, that show is messed up…
I know Posey was very good in the minors, and had a pretty nice rookie season, but I really don’t understand how they cann rank him higher than guys that have been around for a good long time. Maybe the youth movement of the 70’s is making a comeback…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
9:58 pm
Great article on FF by DO’B AT the previous link
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:01 pm
B Mac is our catcher and thats all that matters and Ross is a good back up we have the best tandem in this decade
Ward
February 26th, 2012
10:02 pm
Hello everyone! The Osars are lame,and glad to turn over to watch “The Walking Dead”.
Ward
February 26th, 2012
10:03 pm
Oscars are really boring tonight.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
February 26th, 2012
10:03 pm
Bravo_F52—
True that.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
10:04 pm
Might have to play Edelweiss to celebrate Christopher Plummer’s win…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:06 pm
Rookie ss could just be the spark plug this team needs to ignite?
Ward
February 26th, 2012
10:09 pm
Pastor will get the job done,and I’m rooting for Mike Minor. Braves need a LH in rotation,and I think he can go deep,when needed.
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:10 pm
I played the role Aldo Ray plays in a play at Georgia Southern in 1978 its a good story and a great movie
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:12 pm
I think Minor will progress Bravos primed and ready to contend
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:13 pm
The play is called “My Three Angels”
Ward
February 26th, 2012
10:16 pm
I want all the propsects to do good.It’s good to have talent,and to have to make a tough decision than not to have talent,and trying to come up with some body. Braves are in a good spot,and should have deep talent for a long time.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
10:16 pm
DOB happy – his girl Penelope…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:18 pm
I think FO is on track we have talent books look good next year were on a up
David O'Brien
February 26th, 2012
10:18 pm
Penelope Cruz just made the Oscars a success. By appearing onstage.
Prediction: The Artist wins best picture. Not Hugo, which seems to be a general consensus pick.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
10:20 pm
I had no idea it was one of the Flight of the Concords guys who wrote Man or Muppet…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
10:21 pm
I’d be shocked if not The Artist…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:22 pm
The old dude with the mail order toupe Mc Donalds commercial should win an oscar
Ward
February 26th, 2012
10:23 pm
Thought Cameron Diaz looked good too.Interesting dress……..
Kat
February 26th, 2012
10:25 pm
Angelina Jolie use to look hot.. she looks like she’s ill she’s so thin now…
Ward
February 26th, 2012
10:26 pm
Angelina is ugg…………
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:27 pm
Celebrity Apprentice is off the chain good this season
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:29 pm
Angelina Jolie I missed it daes she need some cornbread and collards
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
10:29 pm
Kat – saw about 5 tweets commenting on her lack of…a body…
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 26th, 2012
10:31 pm
Cameron Diaz???
Yessir, Even Though that movie Bad Teacher Sucked Ass…But She was better in her young days…
@Kat
Most men would say yes to Angelina if Given the chance when asked “Would You”
Kat
February 26th, 2012
10:32 pm
VJ.. yeah she use to be athletic/fit looking. She really looks way too thin now.. skeleton like is not sexy, but that’s just me haha. Maybe others dig it, but yikes if they do.
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:32 pm
Mild weather headed for new england sweet!!!!!
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
10:34 pm
Good to see Adam Sandler basically equated to Werner Herzog…
Kat
February 26th, 2012
10:34 pm
Tomahawkin.. oh I agree Jolie would get a “yes” from most men and probably women lol, but I was just observing her lack of a body on the Oscars…that may turn a yes to a no for some.
Ward
February 26th, 2012
10:35 pm
Tomahawkin-Not me on Angelina,and would take a pass,but Meagan Fox, any day…….
Soph
February 26th, 2012
10:36 pm
Only three more Walking Dead episodes this season after tonight’s. Boo.
Runnin
February 26th, 2012
10:39 pm
The Tree of Life should win Best Cinematography.
Kat
February 26th, 2012
10:42 pm
Bravo_F 52… I know it’ll be 48 here in upstate, ny… I’ll take it, that’s my kind of winter.
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
10:58 pm
We only got 7 inches of snow ..so far… in Lowell Ma
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:05 pm
I killed the blog with the weather
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:07 pm
Victoria Gotti got the boot I’ll say Trump brings her back on the mens team
Kat
February 26th, 2012
11:08 pm
…..”@DaleMurphy3 Some have asked about Spring Training. We’re heading down next Fri, the 2nd. Will be there off and on during Mar. See you there! Can’t wait!”
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:09 pm
Dee Snyder breaks his finger trying to ride side saddle on a horse you can’t make this stuff up thats good t.v.AMERICA
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:12 pm
Penelope Cruz is a fine woman I bet she could ride english style without breaking her finger
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:14 pm
It is so much easier to watch the Oscars on the West Coast than it was for all those years back east…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:14 pm
And I’m still ready to fall sleep before they end…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:15 pm
Asleep, not sleep
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:15 pm
Its a tough job VJ but somebodies got to do it
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:16 pm
An inadvertent typing error, not an sdghy to pad stats…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:17 pm
OR somebody’s
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:17 pm
Whoops – that should have been effort, not sdghy…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:17 pm
somebody
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:18 pm
Well said, Bravo_F-52…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:20 pm
Shocking – (by the way, if anyone did not see Jean Dujardin on SNL two weeks ago, go find the video of Les Jeunes des Paris from that night)…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:21 pm
VJ did you read the FF article DOB knocked it out of the park
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
11:21 pm
Yeah what that French dude just said
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:24 pm
My old schoolmate, Glennie…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:25 pm
Bravo – excellent – thanks for reminding me to read it…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:27 pm
Although she is way older than I am – she apparently put off college for five or six years…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:30 pm
I went for 7 years and i’m still a sophmore
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:31 pm
Like Bluto
Kat
February 26th, 2012
11:31 pm
Hahaha I love the beginning of Meryl’s speech! She was really great in the Iron Lady.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:31 pm
I was fortunate enough to see Glenn Close Wade in a couple of productions at W&M…
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:35 pm
That is cool I’v seen a few of the Thespians I pounded the lumber with in a few arens tv movies and such
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:36 pm
arenas
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:36 pm
venues
Bravo_F 52
February 26th, 2012
11:37 pm
Bon soir
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
11:38 pm
The French don’t even like us.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:38 pm
Merci…
Ward
February 26th, 2012
11:39 pm
“The Artist”,was pretty much predictable.
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:39 pm
Some do now…
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:41 pm
Clever retweet I just read:
Last year’s Best Picture: An English dude who couldn’t speak. This year’s: A French dude no one could hear
Ward
February 26th, 2012
11:43 pm
All have a good one! Peace…….Talk tomorrow……
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 26th, 2012
11:44 pm
Ahh the French are a bunch of wussies anyways. They can hate us and we should laugh. We’d have them peeing themselves if we actually cared enough to go off on them for something.
nolie
February 26th, 2012
11:45 pm
jmo but very few of this years movies did all that much for mw
Venice Jim
February 26th, 2012
11:51 pm
I loved every movie I saw …(well, technically, I saw only one movie in a theater in 2011)…
nolie
February 27th, 2012
12:08 am
I see most of them other than in the theater too, and wasn’t really thrilled about any of them I saw
Ward
February 27th, 2012
12:44 am
Before I call it a night! DOB-You know how the hitters,are making improvements with Walker,as hitting coach. What about the pitchers,and bunting runners over,and trying to help the team like that? Are the pitchers working with bunting skills,and have they improved? Just would like to know,because that is important too? We need pitchers to bunt runners over in scoring position. Last year the bunting was pathetic.Peace Out!
Carney johnson
February 27th, 2012
12:51 am
No more headfirst slides for heyward.
tiger297
February 27th, 2012
1:07 am
man it has slowed down since ST started…at least the overnight blogging seems to have
nolie
February 27th, 2012
1:12 am
I think its been about the slowest winter I can remember tiger
tiger297
February 27th, 2012
1:26 am
weather is too pretty we all want to play outside I guess
tiger297
February 27th, 2012
1:26 am
and if I weren’t stuck working on a presentation due tomorrow I wouldn’t be on here either
tiger297
February 27th, 2012
1:28 am
guess i missed nolie…nebody seen key largo around lately?
tiger297
February 27th, 2012
1:30 am
there are about 10-15 bloggers we need to get on twitter and we would be set
tiger297
February 27th, 2012
1:37 am
when its sleepy time down south…
Voice of Harold
February 27th, 2012
6:24 am
Oh, it’s sleepy time alright. Good morning, all.
Runnin
February 27th, 2012
6:50 am
“You oughta do like I shoulda did.”
Elmore James
nuff said
David O'Brien
February 27th, 2012
7:34 am
NEW BLOGGAGE
NuclearJim
February 27th, 2012
8:57 am
Okay, you like Guy Clark and Ryan Bingham. I’ll never again post a negative comment about your work.
Random
February 27th, 2012
9:38 am
DOB (1:06 pm February 25, 2012): “Let me take a timeout here, folks. Your Crusading Everyman would like you to know that I have strapped it on, so to speak, and subsisted for 11-13 hours per day at this Dark Star baseball facility the past week on nothing but gallons of coffee, small bags of peanuts, a few energy bars and cans of Red Bull. “
DOB (February 25th, 2012 3:40 pm): “But I really don’t feel the need or desire to giving you a minute-by-minute accounting of my work day down here.”
David O'Brien
February 27th, 2012
10:32 am
Random, I see you’re still happy with your overall situation, huh? Enjoy it. And keep clicking on the blog.
Random
February 27th, 2012
12:59 pm
DOB (7:26 am February 27, 2012): ” Paid professional working here. Stand back.”
interested bystanderss
February 27th, 2012
1:05 pm
On the radio they spoke of chipper taking the field in the braves uniform gave me chills.
what of it?
February 27th, 2012
1:33 pm
I believe bourne’s OBP numbers had more to do with being cherry picked by the dismal hitting around him.
historyman
February 27th, 2012
2:38 pm
Is Chipper a Goodfellas fan? Time to go get the papers, get the papers.
Maria Hagel
April 25th, 2013
9:03 pm
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