With Bourn in, the gang’s (almost) all here

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – Michael Bourn’s arrival to spring training made it seven of eight projected Braves lineup regulars in camp two days before the official reporting day for the team’s position players. Some have been here since last week.

Center fielder Michael Bourn joined the growing ranks of early arrivers when he reported to spring training on Wednesday. (Jason Getz photo/AJC)

Center fielder Michael Bourn joined the growing ranks of early arrivers when he reported to spring training on Wednesday. (Jason Getz photo/AJC)

The only one left is rookie shortstop Tyler Pastornicky. But before any more folks get the wrong idea that he’s some kind of straggler, you should know what he’s been doing.

Pastornicky has been in California the past week working out with Jack Wilson, the veteran shortstop he befriended last year when Pastornicky was called up by the injury-plagued big clulb on the final day of the season.

Wilson was re-signed last month by the Braves as a utility infielder and backup to Pastornicky — and a mentor who can show the kid the ropes.

Braves officials were enthused upon hearing that Pastornicky planned to go to Wilson’s home to work out and get tips from the veteran player, who has a regulation-sized infield in the backyard of his home north of Los Angeles.

If Pastornicky and Wilson had known that so many Braves would be arriving so early to camp, I’m guessing they might have planned their week of mentoring a little earlier in the month. But they couldn’t have known without calling around to check with all the Braves, as it’s unusual to have so many report so far in advance of position-player reporting day, which is Friday.

The Braves’ first-full squad workout is Saturday, which also happens to be the first of back-to-back workouts that starts three hours later than usual, at 1 p.m. That’s because the team will be getting its physical exams Saturday and Sunday mornings.

As for the rash of early arrivers, from what I gather talking to players it’s the result of two things: 1. Spring training started nearly a week later than usual this year, and 2. Some players were eager to get to camp and get rid of the last bit of lingering bad taste from September (as you’ve probably heard, the Braves didn’t do so well in September).

“We’ve got a lot of guys with, I think, a chip on their shoulders this year,” second baseman Dan Uggla said. “Some things happened and they took it upon themselves this offseason to prepare themselves for the season, not just for what happened in September but from an individual standpoint — they’re like, ‘I’m not going to let that happen again. I’m going to do my part, and if I don’t get it done then my teammate will get it done.’

“I think everybody’s ready and has a little bit of a chip on their shoulder.”

By mid-February, players’ body clocks were telling them it was time to head south.

“I got the itch about a week ago,” said veteran backup catcher David Ross, who reported nearly a week early. “You usually start your workout stuff at a certain time; I always start hitting and throwing Jan. 1. And this year I even started a couple days earlier; I was bored.

Ross said he got the itch to get to camp, and his body clock told him it was time to be here.

Ross said he got the itch to get to camp, and his body clock told him it was time to be here.

“By the time I get around this time [of February], I’m ready to go. You’re over working out, you want to get here and compete. A lot of guys are anxious to get started.”

It also helps, Ross said, that the Braves clubhouse is filled with guys who get along.

“One thing about this team, everybody on this team likes each other,” he said. “They like hanging out together, doing some stuff off the field. Let’s get here and get some work in, have some fun too before all the craziness starts

Uggla has acknowledged feeling pressure last season to live up to expectations after the Braves traded for him, pressure to show he was worthy of the big contract he was given before ever playing an inning for his new team. He struggled mightily in the first half of the season, before his 33-game hitting streak began July 5.

That specific pressure he felt is gone now, but it doesn’t mean Uggla and other Braves come into the new year feeling carefree. Far from it.

“There’s always pressure,” Uggla said. “This year the pressure is to make sure [what happened in] September doesn’t happen again. We recognize it. You put it right there, minimize it and just go about your business and do your job.”

♣ Uggs and the Pastor: The fireplug second baseman, Uggla, is looking forward to working all spring to get in synch with Pastornicky, Uggla’s new double-play partner.

Manager Fredi Gonzalez plans to have the two of them in the lineup together as much as possible throughout the Grapefruit League schedule, and will have them work out together daily before the spring-training games begin.

“He’s a great kid,” Uggla said of Pastornicky, who hit .314 with a .359 OBP, 27 stolen bases and seven homers in 117 games last season in Double-A and Triple-A. “I got to know him last year in spring. He works hard. He’s ready.

“I bet he wants to the season to start tomorrow, just so he’s not going to have to go through all the stuff leading up to it…. Having a guy like Jack around is going to make him that much better. The only other guy who might be able to pick it a hair better than Jack is Gonzo. To have those kind of guys around just to see how they do things, that’s going to do nothing but help him.

“I’m really glad that we signed Jack back. If we can’t have Gonzo, then Jack’s a good second choice.”

♣ Murph’s music: There was a lot of response to an interview I did with Dale Murphy in January, when the iconic Brave discussed his career, his continued association with the organization – “I’m definitely a Brave,” he said – and his disappointingly Hall of Fame vote totals.

I also keep getting feedback from baseball fans surprised to hear of his keen interest in alternative rock and Americana bands such as Wilco and The Black Keys.

The emails and Tweets come from Murphy fans, many of them at least two or three decades younger than the 55-year-old two-time National League MVP, who are thrilled to learn he likes a lot of the same music that he does. And I have to say, I had the same reaction the first time I hear him talk about digging many of my favorite bands.

Murphy during one of his annual visits to spring training.

Murphy during one of his annual visits to spring training.

So anyway, I talked to Murphy about music after our baseball chat, and the discussion didn’t make it into the interview that ran in the AJC — because of space reasons and ’cause it just wasn’t related to the tone and primary subject matter of that interview.

Initially, I had no plans to run the music stuff we talked about, but given the level of responses from a lot of our Murphy fans who also have a passion for music, I figured I’d throw it in the ol’ blog someday. Today is the day.

DOB: Dale, how’d you get into listening to so many of these current bands? I don’t run into many other former MVPs from the 1980s – or the ‘90s, or the 2000s — who attend Wilco concerts.

Murphy:  “Well, it all started with Wilco. It was like a re-discovery of music, and it’s been a lot of fun. I think sometimes 50-plus-year-olds, a lot of us anyway, think that the music of our youth — and it was great music, don’t get me wrong, and it meant something to us at that time of our lives — like it does with all of us during adolescence, young adulthood, figuring out what we’re going to do with out lives, etc. But with MP3s, the Internet, computers, and ‘growing up’ so to speak, getting new music started to be a little intimidating. So we tune in to an oldies station, or a classic rock station.

“Well, to my surprise the new stuff is just as good, and even better, sometimes. And it can mean something to us, with whatever we have going on now in our lives. My kids help me access the music; there is a lot of good stuff out there. It definitely has helped me to have a 30-year-old or younger, to help mentor me through the maze that the Internet/Itunes/MP3s seems like sometimes.

Is your son Jake the one who influenced your musical tastes and got you into some hip current bands? And it did just sort of mushroomed from there?

“My oldest, Chad, got me listening to Wilco. It’s been really fun to explore this new music and move on from America and Bachman-Turner Overdrive drive and stuff. [Laughter] Not that that’s not good music, but there’s so much new stuff that’s so good and interesting. It’s tough to keep up with it all.

“Bands on my iPod now, that wouldn’t be there without my kids help? Wilco, A.A. Bondy, Arcade Fire, The Black Keys, The Civil Wars, The Decemberists, Fleet Foxes, Ray LaMontagne, Kurt Vile, Rogue Wave, Vampire Weekend… and more. And it’s growing all the time!

“It’s been fun, and I think that’s the fun of Twitter – this intersection or cross-section of diverse people and interests, and you connect in ways . In fact, I did a [Online interview] with [Braves pitcher] Peter Moylan, and he was asking me about music I listen to. And he and Chipper [Jones] were wondering who half the bands were that I named…. [Laughter].

If you only knew how many times I wished more current players listened to the bands and artists I love. I always thought it’d be so refreshing to have a player walk up to the plate to the opening chords of a song like The Clash’s “Guns of Brixton,” or Johnny Cash’s “Folsom Prison Blues.”

[Laughter] “I’m going to have a contest on Twitter and say the first hitter that walks up to the plate with Wilco or something like that playing, I’m going to get him a prize.”

♣ OK, let’s close this with a tune by one of Murph’s favorite bands, Wilco. You can hear “Via Chicago” from their Summerteeth album by clicking here. Also you can read more about the music side of Murphy in his blog, Murph Listens to What?

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“VIA CHICAGO” by Wilco (J. Tweedy)

I dreamed about killing you again last night
And it felt alright to me
Dying on the banks of Embarcadero skies
I sat and watched you bleed
Buried you alive in a fireworks display
Raining down on me
You cold, hot blood ran away from me
To the sea

I painted my name on the back of a leaf
And I watched it float away
The hope I had in a notebook full of white, dry pages
Was all I tried to save
But the wind blew me back via Chicago
In the middle of the night
And all without fight
At the crush of veils and starlight

I know I’ll make it back
One of these days and turn on your TV
To watch a man with a face like mine
Being chased down a busy street
When he gets caught, I wont get up
And I wont go to sleep
I’m coming home, I’m coming home
Via Chicago

Where the cups are cracked and hooked
Above the sink
They make me think
Crumbling ladder tears don’t fall
They shine down your shoulders
And crawling is screw faster lash
I blow it with kisses
I rest my head on a pillowy star
And a cracked door moon
That says I havent gone too far

I’m coming home
I’m coming home
Via Chicago

Searching for a home
Searching for a home
Searching for a home
Via Chicago

I’m coming home
I’m coming home

-- by David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog

1,370 comments Add your comment

Feeanch

February 23rd, 2012
7:26 am

First. From the operating room!

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
7:29 am

Early in the mornin g

Chpr10j

February 23rd, 2012
7:29 am

Dave….where has Chipper been that last couple of days at camp. I know it’s voluntary, but unusual for him to miss workouts.

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
7:32 am

Feeanch: Good luck with your operation.Hope it’s not extremely serious? Losing any superfluous body parts today?

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
7:38 am

JAIRO ASENCIO is ready to prove nolie wrong.

chipl1960

February 23rd, 2012
7:39 am

almost. Thanks DOB. So much info on a daily basis. My wife and I will be in ATL March 18 for Bruce show. Want to check out Antico for sure. Dave I know you will be in FLA. covering our Braves. Are you coming up for the show? Very excited about the new album. Also driving up to Greensboro for show the next day.

ncgary

February 23rd, 2012
7:39 am

go braves borrowing the old marketing phrase
this could be the year…..;)

VABravesFan

February 23rd, 2012
7:46 am

Here’s hoping that Bourn has a great year and the Braves sign him long term.

TaylorVol

February 23rd, 2012
7:46 am

DOB, great work as usual. Murphy is my all-time favorite Brave–he should be in the HOF. DOB, I love your music, food/restaurant recommendations. Could you do me a favor and recommend your favorite place in ATL to smoke a stogie? Also, what’s your cigar of choice? I’m guessing Rocky Patel or Romeo Y Julieta. Love your blog—it’s a must read.

Ray

February 23rd, 2012
7:56 am

Thanks for the new blog DOB. Has Wilson arrived at camp or is both Pastor and Wilson the remaining 2 regulars missing?

T-Bone

February 23rd, 2012
7:56 am

I think I have Pastornicky’s new nickname. How about this . . . Rev. (for Reverend). You see, if you shorten his name it becomes Pastor, and a pastor is . . . never mind!

I am hereby beginning the campaign to start calling Pastornicky, Rev.

O.J.

February 23rd, 2012
8:00 am

T-Bone, I read that he already has that nickname. Nice try though.

Kat

February 23rd, 2012
8:03 am

Thanks for the new blog David. Good morning read.

chuckw/deadjournalist

February 23rd, 2012
8:04 am

i knew a lot of what murph like, but adding a.a. bondy to that list? wow.

David O'Brien

February 23rd, 2012
8:07 am

Chuck: I know, pretty cool eh?

flange1

February 23rd, 2012
8:14 am

I believe that folks have been calling him the Rev for quite a while.

Thanks for the new blog DOB!

Feeanch

February 23rd, 2012
8:23 am

Rich, no surgery for me. I work for Intuitive Surgical supporting robotic surgery cases. Just waitin in the surgeon to come in and get started and got the blog.

Chuck, highlight of that interview for me as well was seekng him mention AA Bondy. Had a chance to listen to the radio replay of DOB’s interview from the other night. Couldn’t agree more with ya Dave about parents who just stop listening and more importantly seek out new music or co-opt their daughter’s love of Taylor Swift because they want to be their kids’ BFF. My 5 and 7 year old boys couldn’t pick Bieber or Swift out on the radio but they do know the difference between Black keys and the Black lips. My 7 year old’s walk up music for his little league game is Pearl Jam’s ‘Supersonic’ off most recent album. So I got that going for me, which is nice….

Ryan

February 23rd, 2012
8:36 am

DOB,

Can either you ask John Schuerholz or can you ask Tim Tucker to ask John Schuerholz about the following statement, released to fans in an open letter shortly after the Sept. collapse, and if he feels that his orgainization has “repaired its weaknesses?” Thanks.

From John Schuerholz, Oct. 6:

“However, our performance in the month of September was unacceptable to all in the organization, and we will evaluate and analyze our missteps to do all we can to prevent this from happening again. Our General Manager, Frank Wren, and his staff have already begun to evaluate our team and will be focusing throughout the off-season on building upon the strengths of this team and repairing our weaknesses to achieve our goal.”

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
8:43 am

Seven year olds have walk up music for Little League? I know I’m a LOF, but really? Maybe work on learning which way to run instead?

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
8:44 am

Ryan – Bullpen is deeper, Lowe and Parrish are gone and players are healthy again. That should cover it.

TennesseePaul

February 23rd, 2012
8:46 am

Thanks for the work DOB.

GO BRAVES!

bravesfansince1982

February 23rd, 2012
8:51 am

Lew, I made those same posts on another thread. Unfortunately, some people are going to whine and cry about our offseason because we did not go out and get Albert Pujols, Carlos Beltran, and Jose Reyes.

The Braves made some tweaks because they were really close last year. The Marlins and Nats made major changes because they were not. The Phils are still a powerhouse, but I think the loss of Howard for the first few weeks is going to hurt them more than people think. The Braves are primed to have a really good year and should be extra motivated.

lefty fielder

February 23rd, 2012
8:56 am

I’m one of the BTO/America people mentioned earlier . . . so I took the plunge and listened to Via Chicago by Wilco . . . sounds like Neil Young and After the Goldrush . . . same 3-chord turnaround . . . maybe that’s why it’s pretty good

O.J.

February 23rd, 2012
8:57 am

Feeanch, are you serious???? walk up music for a 7 year old???? get that crap out of here man.

Ray

February 23rd, 2012
9:00 am

Exactly,, the Braves made tweaks. I think it was evident many had contacted Wren about JJ, Prado, Hansen and others but Wren didn’t think those offers were going to make the team better. We probably will never know who Wren reached out to sign or see what it would take in certain trades with other teams. Bravesfan, you are right, the Marlins absolutely had to make a big splash with their signings and a new ballpark.

O.J.

February 23rd, 2012
9:00 am

I saw if the Braves can come out of the gates strong with the Phillies having a banged up Howard, we could be in first place and maybe stay there if we start off really strong.

O.J.

February 23rd, 2012
9:01 am

I say, not I saw, lol

pfunkatl2

February 23rd, 2012
9:02 am

Well, it’s been awhile since I posted, but I LOVE this time of year! DOB back on his dailies, and BASEBALL!I am in KC now, again, but I hope to follow the Braves as much as possible, especially with the current state of the Royals. Guess I will need the MLB package.

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
9:07 am

I don’t think there was nearly as much action on Prado in particular and likely on Jurrjens as well this winter. I think the lion’s share of action came in the form of rumors by the people who get paid to speculate so to keep the masses happy all winter and fans wanting news – any news..

I would be willing to speculatye myself that the most often mentioned players Wren had feelers on were named Teheran, Delgado and Vizcaino – and maybe Beachy, too.

Mikeyc588

February 23rd, 2012
9:18 am

Wow. I actually hadn’t heard AA Bondy yet. Can’t quite wrap my head around the fact that Dale Murphy (indirectly) introduced me to a new musician I like…

Jimmy

February 23rd, 2012
9:26 am

Thanks for the Daily DOB Bloggage.

keyLargo

February 23rd, 2012
9:30 am

Seven year olds have walk up music for Little League? I know I’m a LOF, but really?

It was an OMEN when they made shredded Bubble Gum like chewing tobacco in the neat little pouches. Of course that was before it became P I to chew tobacco.

Bravefaninok

February 23rd, 2012
9:31 am

Thanks for the Daily Bloggage. DOB,we do appreciate you.

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
9:37 am

key largo – Shredded bubble gum, walk up music and everyone getting a trophy. Things sure have changed since we were kids.

doug

February 23rd, 2012
9:39 am

As long as the kids still love the game, I’ll take it.

flange1

February 23rd, 2012
9:41 am

It’s funny, my first year of Little League, we played on an infield that did not have grass or any outfield fences.

I thought I was in the “Majors” at age 8 when we played on a field with grass, lights and outfield fences!

My how times have changed.

Walk up music for a 7 year old…………

keyLargo

February 23rd, 2012
9:43 am

Things sure have changed since we were kids.

It would be against some law I’m sure to let a kid chew as much bubble gum as we used to. I’d buy 100 cards and get 100 pieces of sugary tasting cardboard in the deal. Both about average for a weekend.

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
9:44 am

doug – The question is do they really love the game or the trip to the pizza place after it’s over? If it was the game, then they wouldn’t need all the external glitz.

More likely that all the crap is for the parents, anyway.

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
9:44 am

key largo – But could those slabs that came in the baseball cards actually be chewed?

flange1

February 23rd, 2012
9:46 am

Lew,

Funny about the slabs of gum with the baseball cards. I had many pieces of gum that were so hard they cracked when you bit into them.

Duke

February 23rd, 2012
9:46 am

DOB, you need to introduce him to Futurebirds and Broken Bells. Local bands he should dig. A.A. Bondy and Kurt Vile is kind of surprising, but at the same time awesome.

Are you guys into Band of Skulls?

Fleming

February 23rd, 2012
9:48 am

Lew — could those slabs that came in the baseball cards actually be chewed

Yes and later when you made it to High School you could wrap some tobacco in the gum and chew that as well

keyLargo

February 23rd, 2012
9:48 am

key largo – But could those slabs that came in the baseball cards actually be chewed?

There have been instances of it being chewed, but never digested. Like mysterious pink marbles in the bottom of the bowl.

Ryan

February 23rd, 2012
9:51 am

Not whining or crying. Curious to hear what his answer would be. I thought last year’s team was fine enough to win 90 as I think now. I am happy with this team as it is constructed. Why do you think that asking the President of this organization if he thinks that bold statement that he made, without being proded I might add, has come to fruition…what is so bad about that?

Want to know my answer to last question I stated above? I think you people have both grown numb and have been lead to believe that any question should be followed by sarcasim, snarky attitude and name calling. You guys should also read my question a bit closer. I am not interested in what some guy named Lew thinks of the above statement (and that is no offense to you, Lew. It is just a specific question for the team’s front office). I, like most fans, would like to hear how the team truely approached the offseason in relation to fixing their own preceived problems. An honest answer would tell us a lot about both what they think the issues are and to what constraints the Braves are under to fix those issues. This is very much in the same vein as asking DOB over and over about the true budget that Braves work under. What happened there? Everyone curious gets blasted because “they wont tell us” only to read Tim Tucker get those answers just weeks later. And go back and read that Tucker piece and tell me that you didnt learn much more about the operation of this team than you did before. Are you not glad to have learned the answer to that question?

I know. Most people are more interested in talking food and guitars here, for what reason I don’t know, and get almost violently angry when you try to move the discussion toward examining the inner workings of a MLB baseball team, but until a private business creates another newspaper in the city of Atlanta that attempts to cover this team, I continue to hold out hope that people here will begin to embrace deepr discussion.

And please don’t take any of this as anger, or name calling and if anything I have written comes across that way, please except my apology. I have a simple question that I would like answered if possible and if it is not possible, then a simple ‘no’ will be accepted and respected while not in agreement. I have just come to the belief, rather right or wrong, that this paper will not ask these questions unless proded and that I, Joe Consumer, wouldn’t get an anwser if I asked so this seems to be the best outlet to request a question. If there is a better forum, please advise and I will be more than happy to move this querry there.

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
9:51 am

flange – KInd of like the toast at breakfast at Georgia College. You couldn’t eat it so you’d shatter it against the table.

David O'Brien

February 23rd, 2012
9:52 am

Hanson talked to media today for first time, described the accident he said was caused by tire blowout rounding a curve. He has bruises on shoulder (from seatbelt) and forearms, but nothing serious and feels thankful. Today was first day he’s not had headaches since the Monday morning one-car accident, said he feels much better but Braves will keep him out of fourth straight day of workouts.

Bruising is on Hanson’s non-pitching shoulder, also has sore ribs, but nothing serious and he’s in good spirits, ready to get going. Might be Monday before he’s on mound, but he hopes it’ll be this weekend. Either way, said he’s not concerned about missing one week this early, since he did so much throwing before camp anyway and is already in good shape.

Don

February 23rd, 2012
9:54 am

WITH – 4 out of the 5 Starting Pitchers coming off injuries – (and many times Pitchers never returning to being great after serious injury);
AND WITH – There being no real basis to think that our Right Fielder will produce offensively good enough to even be a fourth our fifth outfielder,
AND WITH – The rookie Shortstop having no major league experience, and there being no basis to think that he will have acceptable offensive production;
AND WITH – The number of games that the Third Baseman will be able to play in question – and even more significantly – his defensive range being significantly limited even when he does play;
AND WITH – The Second Baseman’s batting average and on base average last season not really being adequated – even though he does have good power;
AND even though the team has a wealth of additional young pitching talent – the team has continued with the situation were almost every Starting Pitcher ends up being injured – since Leo left as the Pitching Coach
WITH ALL THE OPTOMISM THAT EXISTS (even with all these potential problems) ARE WE SURE THAT THIS ISN’T A CHICAGO CUBS BLOG?????

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

February 23rd, 2012
9:55 am

cabravesfan jeffrey wanted to know if it was ok to make a few fat jokes. I pointed out that making fat jokes is a good way for a guy to stay single

Haha! True that… :P

jeffrey d Tomorrow I try my hand at being the handyman. I’ll either end up with a nice and new functioning guest bathroom sink/faucet or an awkward hole in my house

Yikes! Well, good luck with that! :)

Felix Millan

February 23rd, 2012
9:55 am

walk up music for 7 yr olds. My Lord.Of course, he’s probably been playing on a traveling team for 3 years. It’s no wonder kids get burnt out by their teens.

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
9:57 am

Ryan – Numb? Sounds to me like your angry.

What good would it do to ask him that question? Do you think he’d answer and if he did that you’d hear whatever it was you wanted to hear? Kind of like asking Bobby Cox a question at a post game press conference. No forthcoming asnwer would cover what you had in mind to begin with.

People say things all the time in the heat of the moment that under normal circumstances they wouldn’t let pass their lips for public consumption. This situation is no different. He was pissed off and let it flow and then sanity and sober reflection entered the equation. Maybe you should try it yourself – the sober reflection, that is.

In the long run (which has already arrived), would the answer change your perception of JS, the Braves or anything else, for that matter? Would it change the team we have going forward?

Numb? Not really. We just know that railing ever onward won’t change anything or affect how the Braves play going forward.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 23rd, 2012
9:57 am

What Uggla said:

“I’m really glad that we signed Jack back. If we can’t have Gonzo, then Jack’s a good second choice.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Respect is what Gonzo’s teammates had for the man. But we know the difference between Gonzo and Jack Wilson, Gonzo would be in Pastornicky’s way while Wilson can tutor the youngster as his back up. I just hope the kid makes Wren look smart again…. referencing Heyward and Freeman’s recent rookie campaigns.

David O'Brien

February 23rd, 2012
9:57 am

Funny about the slabs of gum with the baseball cards. I had many pieces of gum that were so hard they cracked when you bit into them. — flange1

Remember how they’d taste good for about 5 minutes or less, then just horrible? It’d be frightening, probably, to know what low-grade ingredients were used in the manufacture of those baseball-card bubblegum sticks.

Murph

February 23rd, 2012
9:58 am

What kind of car does (did) Hanson drive?

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
9:59 am

And then there’s Don.

flange1

February 23rd, 2012
10:01 am

Don,

I think you need to look at the top 5 starters, Hudson, Hanson, JJJ, Beachy and Minor. Actually, only 3 have had injuries not 4.

Hard to read anything else from you when you make so many obvious stupid errors.

Please go to the Cubs blog and bother them

Thanks!

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:02 am

T-Bone

“I think I have Pastornicky’s new nickname. How about this . . . Rev. (for Reverend). You see, if you shorten his name it becomes Pastor, and a pastor is . . . never mind!

I am hereby beginning the campaign to start calling Pastornicky, Rev.”

He’s Already Been Deemed “The Pastor” by many of the Cats who blog on here on a regular basis

Felix Millan

February 23rd, 2012
10:02 am

and don’t put three or four pieces of that gum in your mouth at once.When you finally got them broken down, it was time to spit it out. A handful of chocolate Now or Laters looked pretty “cool” to us out playing ball in the backyard.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 23rd, 2012
10:03 am

I always threw the gum away and kept the baseball cards in my lunch box :)

flange1

February 23rd, 2012
10:03 am

DOB,

So true! I will bet there was a ton of Red dye #3 in those slabs of gum, plus other wonderfully cheap and nasty stuff.

But we loved it at the time!

David O'Brien

February 23rd, 2012
10:03 am

Thanks for the new blog DOB. Has Wilson arrived at camp or is both Pastor and Wilson the remaining 2 regulars missing? — Ray

The kid and the mentor (Wilson) weren’t here this morning. Their lockers, by the way, are side-by-side, uniform Nos. 1 & 2, the first two lockers when you come in the clubhouse door at Dark Star ballpark, separated from longer row of lockers by a hallway entrance to the hall that goes back to training room, weight room, etc.

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:04 am

Lew
February 23rd, 2012
8:43 am

Seven year olds have walk up music for Little League? I know I’m a LOF, but really? Maybe work on learning which way to run instead?

Heh1 Same reaction here LEW. Jeeze, my grandson didn’t get walk-up music until last season. On his club you have to earn it, it’s not gratuitously doled out. It’s a mark of distinction.

David O'Brien

February 23rd, 2012
10:05 am

I’m guessing Rocky Patel or Romeo Y Julieta. — TaylorVol

Love both of those, but I usually smoke what I can afford, which is the $5 range or lower or a sampler pack of more expensive ones at lower rate. I’ll splurge and get a box of Padrons now and then — LOVE the Padrons.

Bravefaninok

February 23rd, 2012
10:05 am

Larry

February 23rd, 2012
10:06 am

“We’ve got a lot of guys with, I think, a chip on their shoulders this year,” second baseman Dan Uggla said. “Some things happened and they took it upon themselves this offseason to prepare themselves for the season, not just for what happened in September but from an individual standpoint — they’re like, ‘I’m not going to let that happen again. I’m going to do my part, and if I don’t get it done then my teammate will get it done.”

Very honorable, Dan. However, none of the players filled out the lineups, picked the starting pitchers to pitch in must win games, are looked completely befuddled at making strategic, in-game decisions last September; non of the players “tipped their hats” at being thoroughly out smarted and out coached!

How will THAT change this season?

Larry

February 23rd, 2012
10:06 am

“or” not “are”

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:06 am

@Coach…

I see The Pastor/Jackie Platoon as somewhat similiar to the Blauser/Belliard platoon from 1991-93…

Jackie should only be used as a 8th-9th inning defensive replacement, nothing else

feel free to Co-Sign?

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:07 am

Coach (2012 Fredi’s beisbol fandango)
February 23rd, 2012
10:03 am

I always threw the gum away and kept the baseball cards in my lunch box

Heh! I always chewed the gum, got rotten teeth and gave the cards away. Seriously, gave a shoebox of over 320 cards to a neighbor when i was 16. Most from 1956.

monty

February 23rd, 2012
10:09 am

Lyrics about murder? Guess it’s not as bad as some rap stuff.

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:10 am

“……….Love both of those, but I usually smoke what I can afford, which is the $5 range or lower or a sampler pack of more expensive ones at lower rate. I’ll splurge and get a box of Padrons now and then — LOVE the Padrons………..” DOB

What this country needs is a good 5 cent cigar………HAV-A-TAMPA.

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:11 am

As Matt Chernoff has mentioned last year, this is a lineup that is Full of Strak hitters…And we need to stop relying on Both B-Macc And Hoss to carry the team when they can only be relied on to start 130 and 120 games respectively…

To make any kind of Run at the Phillies (Forget the WC! That 2010 WC banner they hung at the Ted is a Joke) we need Career years or Norms from 2-3 other starters as welll as a consistant offense as a whole who can manufacture runs in close late season games….

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:12 am

Larry
February 23rd, 2012
10:06 am

“We’ve got a lot of guys with, I think, a chip on their shoulders this year,” second baseman Dan Uggla said.

Wait, was the disaster in September a wake-up call to the 2012 World Series? One can only hope.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 23rd, 2012
10:13 am

Larry, our Bravos should have won 95 games. They finished with 89. The six game difference wasn’t determined by Fredi G. September was the result of injuries to the starting staff, leading to an overworked bullpen which fell apart the last month of the 2011 season.

Managers get to much blame when things go wrong, and not enough credit when everything goes right.

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:14 am

Cheesewhiz…I didn’t start collecting cards til 1990

bvillebaron

February 23rd, 2012
10:16 am

Don:

Wow what a ray of sunshine you are! Let’s discuss your points:

(1) Many pitchers never return to being great after injury–see Tim Hudson and numerous others who have returned to being great after TJ surgery;

(2) There is no reason to believe that Heyward will be more than a 4th or 5th outfielder–clearly your most stupid comment–no reason at all other than that tons of players have sophomore slumps and return to form, especially when that slump is compounded by injury (Heyward is stilll only 22 years old for god’s sake and he wasn’t ranked as the #1 prospect in MLB 2 years ago for no reason);

(3) Actually the more accurate question based upon his performance in the minors is not whether Patstornicky can hit, but rather whether he will be at least adequate defensively;

(4) Uggla’s BA last year was the lowest of his career and he should at least return to closer to his career norms this year while still supplying power;

(5) Very few pitchers on any team go their entire career without having injuries of some kind or another.

Finally, in case you forgot, the Cubs haven’t won a World Series in over a century and the Braves have won one as recently as 1995 and won 14 straight divisional titles (something that will not be duplicate); they also missed the playoffs last year by one lousy game after being in the playoffs the year before with a team that has a lot of young players who should improve as they mature.

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:16 am

@Coach…

“Larry, our Bravos should have won 95 games. They finished with 89. The six game difference wasn’t determined by Fredi G. September was the result of injuries to the starting staff, leading to an overworked bullpen which fell apart the last month of the 2011 season.”

No offense, but A lot of fans are tired of the Injury excuse, the team has used it the last 2 years…People are starting to think its a Cop-Out…Th Phillies had their rash of injuries as well and still Handed our A..ses to us in September

flange1

February 23rd, 2012
10:17 am

I think Ryan has a good point.

I was surprised at the JS letter and the early interviews with FW suggesting specific things the Braves would do in the off season. I

Then the off season comes and goes and the Braves do nothing.

I think we deserve a response from Braves management telling us why they did nothing.

I understand that the team and the fans were upset about the September collapse, but making specific “upgrade” suggestions and then not following through is not the way to make fans feel all warm and fuzzy about their team.

I also understand that this is a good team that probably did not need a lot of tweaking.

This is really a PR issue to me. The Braves are not very good at PR.

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:18 am

bvillebaron

Don:

“Wow what a ray of sunshine you are! Let’s discuss your points:

“(2) There is no reason to believe that Heyward will be more than a 4th or 5th outfielder–clearly your most stupid comment–no reason at all other than that tons of players have sophomore slumps and return to form, especially when that slump is compounded by injury (Heyward is stilll only 22 years old for god’s sake and he wasn’t ranked as the #1 prospect in MLB 2 years ago for no reason);”

ouch, lol

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:18 am

TOMAHAWKIN:

Most unfortunate you couldn’t get DON ZIMMER or ERNIE JOHNSON Sr. seventeen times while always hoping for a SANDY KOUFAX, or EDDIE MATHEWS.

Murph

February 23rd, 2012
10:19 am

Managers get to much blame when things go wrong, and not enough credit when everything goes right.

You mean when they send an over-the-hill, dead armed, no gas left in the tank pitcher out to the mound knowing full well that the chances of him getting through the 4th inning are slim to none… we shouldn’t hold them accountable? Especially when there are younger, fresher, more athletic options sitting on the bench?

Fredi may not have lost the games for the Braves, but by going to Lowe 5 times in September he certainly didn’t help them win, either.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 23rd, 2012
10:20 am

richbrave, funny thing is…..my Dad let me keep my baseball cards because according to him, they didn’t take up to much room. However, I had literally thousands of comic books ( we had this nice old apartment complex manager who gave me a buck a week to help clean up) as I bought them every time I had some cash. When we moved out of state, Dad boxed up all my comics and left them outside a goodwill trailer. I still haven’t got over losing them and only God knows what they would be worth today.

raleighbravefan

February 23rd, 2012
10:20 am

Don being Don…what a maroon.

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:21 am

@Flange

“I was surprised at the JS letter and the early interviews with FW suggesting specific things the Braves would do in the off season. I

Then the off season comes and goes and the Braves do nothing”

Matt Chernoff said it yesterday and I will Co-Sign on it…

He said that he was glad that Wren didn’t make Knee-Jerk Reaction trades of Martin Prado and Double J for Slop like Seth Smith, amongst the other Slop that was on the Market…

Trading either Double J or Martini for Slop as a Kneejerk reaction would’ve been another Epic Fail and FW would’ve lost points in my book….

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:21 am

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 23rd, 2012
10:16 am

@Coach…

“Larry, our Bravos should have won 95 games. They finished with 89. The six game difference wasn’t determined by Fredi G. September was the result of injuries to the starting staff, leading to an overworked bullpen which fell apart the last month of the 2011 season.”

“………No offense, but A lot of fans are tired of the Injury excuse, the team has used it the last 2 years…People are starting to think its a Cop-Out…Th Phillies had their rash of injuries as well and still Handed our A..ses to us in September………..”

The difference between top clubs and pretenders is always ATTITUDE.

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:23 am

@Murph

Co-Sign @ that 1019 post…

I can’t Believe Blowe lost 17 games last year…?

That was the highest total of losses since KK I’m guessing

Don

February 23rd, 2012
10:23 am

Flange 1, – Before his injury, Medlin was a Starter. If you count him coming back as one of the Starters, that makes Hudson, Hanson, JJ and Medlin coming off injuries.
UNLESS you have a new procedure for COUNTING, – Most people would think that probably makes (1), (2), (3), (4) Starters coming off injures.
Of course, as you pointed out, this may not be the way to count – and I may be making a STUPID ERROR – or at least one of us is.

raleighbravefan

February 23rd, 2012
10:23 am

Don being Don….what a maroon

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:24 am

Yeah I just saw that the Yankees have had 20 above .500 seasons in a row now…

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 23rd, 2012
10:24 am

Hmmmmmm, me thinks there’s a bit of anger toward our manager. Ok, yea Fredi G. made some mistakes, but who doesn’t? I mean, if he had set Derek Lowe down in September and gone with one of the rookies, would that have been better? Nobody knows although conventional wisdom says go with the veteran. Live and learn.

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:25 am

Medlin….????

I know I’m bad on typos butLittle Big Man MED’s has been on the team for 3 years and some still call him Medlin…?

Is that some form of a Diss?

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:27 am

Coach:

IF you had the right comics in great condition, and kept them properly humidified all these years, you might literally have had a million bucks since you say you had literally “thousands.” WOW!

Tomahawkin (The Godfather)

February 23rd, 2012
10:27 am

@Coach…

LOL, I can’t believe you Drinking the Kool Aid for Fredi??? You must be feeling some compassion now…?

If we don’t make the Playoffs this year, He will be on the Hot Seat, Mark It Down!

I’m calling it now

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:28 am

MEDLEN = MEDLIN?

Don

February 23rd, 2012
10:29 am

ralighbravefan, WE WILL SEE at the end of the season who the MAROON is- nuff saio

flange1

February 23rd, 2012
10:29 am

TH,

I NEVER said the Braves should have made a deal. What I said was the Braves made a mistake by saying they were going to do something and then not doing it.

Big difference.

CB

February 23rd, 2012
10:29 am

flange1 speaking the truth at 10:17.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 23rd, 2012
10:30 am

But yes, Derek Lowe’s 0-5 record and 8.75 ERA was an absolute horror show during September’s monumental meltdown. That’s on Fredi G.

Murph

February 23rd, 2012
10:31 am

I don’t know that I’m angry at Fredi… I guess I am a little. I feel bad for being mad at him though. It’s like when the 4 year old got her first fish a couple of weeks ago… she wanted to take good care of it, so she gave it a bath… which involved pouring soap into its tank.

You want to be mad, but you really can’t be because they don’t know any better and are trying to do what they think is the right thing.

Her dead fish in many way symbolizes the Braves in September. Her new fish is still alive, and I have hope for it, much as I do for the Braves this spring.

Only time will tell, and hopefully both Fredi and the 4 year old have learned from their mistakes.

richbrave

February 23rd, 2012
10:31 am

Don
February 23rd, 2012
10:23 am

“…….Flange 1, – Before his injury, Medlin was a Starter. If you count him coming back as one of the Starters, that makes Hudson, Hanson, JJ and Medlin coming off injuries.
UNLESS you have a new procedure for COUNTING, – Most people would think that probably makes (1), (2), (3), (4) Starters coming off injures.
Of course, as you pointed out, this may not be the way to count – and I may be making a STUPID ERROR – or at least one of us is……”

Maybe you’re seeing too many trees, and not the forest. But hey, count what you see. Fine by me.

raleighbravefan

February 23rd, 2012
10:32 am

Don – We don’t have to wait until the end of the season…You’ve ALWAYS been a Maroon.

Lew

February 23rd, 2012
10:34 am

THawkin – Since when is the truth an excuse? It’s not an excuse, it’s a reason.

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