Minor starts ahead of Teheran, Delgado in No. 5 race

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – The Braves’ No. 5 starter competition is a three-man race between Mike Minor and top prospects Julio Teheran and Randall Delgado, but Minor is ahead of the other two at the starting line.

A year ago, he lost the No. 5 starter job to Brandon Beachy in spring training.

“But unlike last spring when he was on equal footing with Beachy, this spring he’s coming in ahead of the other guys,” Braves general manager Frank Wren said. “He’s the incumbent.”

That will come as good news for Minor, who says if the Braves don’t have room for him in their starting rotation this season, they might as well trade him.

“I’ve been in Triple-A all last year pretty much,” he said, “and the year before I had some time [in the majors]. I’m getting older every year, so there’s no reason for me to be sitting in Triple-A.”

Minor, 24, was 5-3 with a 4.14 ERA in 15 major league starts last season. He went 5-1 with a 3.51 ERA in his last 10, with 59 strikeouts and 16 walks in 56-1/3 innings.

“I think [pitching coach] Roger [McDowell] and [manager] Fredi [Gonzalez] both have said he comes into it ahead of everybody else, and being left-handed gives him an additional advantage,” Wren said. “But still, we’ll watch what happens here.”

Minor is the most experienced of the trio, with 23  starts to 10 combined by Delgado and Teheran. Minor is the only lefty among the Braves’  major league-ready starters.

“[Being left-handed] gives him a huge advantage,” Braves general manager Fran Wren said of Minor. “But spring training is going to be important to determine who rounds out our staff.”

Top-rated Braves prospect Teheran, 21, was 1-1 with a 5.03 ERA in five games (three starts). Delgado wasn’t rated nearly as high as as Teheran but outshone him at the big-league level, going 1-1 with a 2.83 ERA in seven starts.

Since veteran Tim Hudson could miss April recovering from back surgery, it’s likely two from the trio of Minor, Teheran and Delgado will make the opening-day rotation.

“But after a month or two, somebody’s got to go [when Hudson returns],” Minor said. “Overall, it’s not really – it’s about making the team, but if … I can control my third pitch and have a decent fourth pitch, then there’s no reason I shouldn’t pitch in the big leagues somewhere. If they don’t have room for me here, then there’s no reason they shouldn’t trade me or just do something with me.”

100 comments Add your comment

Innocent Bystander

February 23rd, 2012
6:18 pm

Tom Petty said it best…

“The waiting is the hardest part”

honeybee

February 23rd, 2012
6:19 pm

Sign Oswald.

matt

February 23rd, 2012
6:20 pm

Give it to the guy who can pitch more than 4 1/3 innings per start, please Freddi.

ColoradoBravesFan

February 23rd, 2012
6:20 pm

Wow… Shouldn’t Minor just keep his mouth shut and earn the 5th staters position?

Oh First?

Bayou Brave

February 23rd, 2012
6:24 pm

Great attitude.

Freddie

February 23rd, 2012
6:26 pm

Hey Minor…..Why don’t you try pitching your way in. You haven’t proved anything yet….

alanfalcon

February 23rd, 2012
6:28 pm

Glad to see that Minor has the grit and confidence, most of the players on the 40 man roster just sit back and expect that something will happen instead of speaking their mind.

Milt Famey

February 23rd, 2012
6:31 pm

Somebody tell Minor that he should wait and see if he makes the rotation before mentioning trade. I thought those Vandy guys were smarter than that.

endless mike

February 23rd, 2012
6:33 pm

wow, what a jerk. 23 ML starts and he’s demanding a trade?

Ryan C.

February 23rd, 2012
6:34 pm

DOB,
What are your thoughts on Minor’s comments?

Nova Scotia Steve

February 23rd, 2012
6:35 pm

Minor hasn’t earned anything in my opinion. He needs to earn the spot and then pitch well consistently. Minor has never been consistent.

LivinInAL

February 23rd, 2012
6:38 pm

Sounds like Minor did some Major running of the mouth.

kirby white

February 23rd, 2012
6:38 pm

He didn’t demand a trade. He said that he knows he has the talent to be a starting pitcher, and he doesn’t want to waste his time in the minors. He shouldn’t have said anything, but no where did he demand a trade. All he said was that he is good enough to stay in the bigs and that if he gets shipped to the minors he might as well be traded

imausedtobe

February 23rd, 2012
6:41 pm

This is not the first time Minor said something thatraised eyebrows. After his first couple starts he stated that he was tired. He may be honest and speaking his mind, but this may not be the best way to send out a message. He needs to pitch, compete,and let his arm do the talking. If he succeeds that will be great

N8

February 23rd, 2012
6:46 pm

“Wow… Shouldn’t Minor just keep his mouth shut and earn the 5th staters position?”

I absolutely agree with Minor. He’s earned his spot. Absolutely nothing to prove at AAA.

If he gets passed up now, he’s never going to be on the radar for the Braves.

But on the flipside, how nice to be Frank Wren and know you have Minor in the minors in case of injury. Save about 10 rotations, he’d be a 3rd or 4th starter going into camp for a bunch of teams.

He might be 7th on our depth chart once Hudson comes back.

Bill

February 23rd, 2012
6:48 pm

He’s got a good point…he must put up are be gone!

Ben

February 23rd, 2012
6:49 pm

lol trade him now. he blows anyway

Buck

February 23rd, 2012
7:02 pm

Wow, kids got quite a load of unearned confidence. Does he not understand how mediocre he is

VinceVanGo

February 23rd, 2012
7:07 pm

I almost hate to say it but with Hudson’s back, Jurrgens knee, and Hanson’s arm, I think that Brandon Beachy will end up being the workhorse and ace of the staff this year. He very well could end up winning 15+ games this year.

Tim

February 23rd, 2012
7:08 pm

Wow. You guys are crazy. I love the fact that Minor doesn’t want to be in the minors. Nobody should want to be in the minors. He has proven he can pitch down there and if you didn’t see his last few starts of the season then you will see that he’s ready to prove himself in the majors and should be given the chance. IMO he earned his spot in the rotation last season and it shouldn’t be a question this year.

Scottbravesfan

February 23rd, 2012
7:09 pm

He’s actually being realistic if he doesn’t make it now no way he will make it next year when Teheran and Delgado both should be MLB ready. Plus Gilmartin won’t be too far off.

Greene Hornet

February 23rd, 2012
7:11 pm

I know my comments mean nothing, but I don’t think he meant it as a demand or anything. Time will only tell if he doesn’t make it and he winds up being a distraction in the clubhouse. I don’t think that is the case and I really don’t think that’s what he meant. It’s just my opinion, not based on fact…

No excuse not to trade JJ

February 23rd, 2012
7:19 pm

He is already better than JJ. Don’t see what issue is here.

Gary

February 23rd, 2012
7:34 pm

I pretty much agree with Minor. It’s his spot to lose. He has the most experience and I expect him to get a lot of innings in this year.

Norris

February 23rd, 2012
7:42 pm

I say we trade Jurrjens for say a bobby abreu or someone to help in left field since we all know Prado will be at third most of the year…. Who would you realistically trade Jurrjens for???

Norris

February 23rd, 2012
7:43 pm

Then all three can start and there is none of this trade crap floating around about our elite talent, then when Huddys contract is up there’s room for Gilmartin

Earl

February 23rd, 2012
7:45 pm

I don’t care for the way Minor put it, but I agree with him in the sense that he should be traded before being sent to the minors. If he is sent to the minors, the Braves would be better suited to make a deal for a good position player. The Braves are loaded with pitching in the minors and I look for some type of trade before spring training is over.

Elonbrave

February 23rd, 2012
8:29 pm

Well, if you’re trying to get traded by the Braves, a great way to start is by creating drama in the first week of spring training before you show you’re better than the other guys competing for the 5th spot.

So, great job, Mike.

Paul

February 23rd, 2012
8:43 pm

Minor has nothing left to prove in AAA where he’s dominated for two years. He pitched ineffectively in his brief call-up in 2010 because he ran out of gas. It happens. Even with Hudson back he’s still the 5th best starter in the organization. And yes, I’m including Medlen, Teheran, and Delgado in that list. Meds projects better in relief, JT and RD need more time in minors.

As for his “unearned confidence,” that’s some two-faced garbage fanspeak if I’ve ever seen it. Is it right for him to talk to the media instead of keeping it in-house? Possibly. But consider for a moment that ANY reporter (DOB included) who is worth his or her salt is going to jump all over stuff like this in ST. For chrissakes, Chipper had a random bad picture taken of him and fans are jumping all over him because it LOOKS like he MIGHT be out of shape. Perspective: we haven’t even had a full squad workout. Let the boys do their thing before going crazy.

Bob the Blogger

February 23rd, 2012
9:20 pm

I can understand Minor feeling this way, and even communicating it to management, but mouthing it to the media wasn’t very smart. He’s opened up a can of worms, and as you know, you can never get all of the worms back into the can.

Elonbrave

February 23rd, 2012
9:26 pm

Yeah it has nothing to do with whether or not he was right. He makes a really good point, but he handled it stupidly:

Metaphor: if you want your girlfriend to know something is important to you, you don’t call her out in front of all your friends at dinner, especially when it’s a sensitive subject.

Minor Leaguer

February 23rd, 2012
9:51 pm

Big Mouth. This won’t be the less classless thing he says, either. Give the guy his wish: trade him.

BravesfaninWis

February 23rd, 2012
10:08 pm

Mike Minor is a moron. What has he ever done to earn a spot in a MLB rotation? As far as I can remember, he got beat up on pretty badly when he first came up. Wasn’t it him that walked 4 straight Milwaukee Brewers to drive in a run? I wasn’t a fan of his before but was waiting to see what he could do with some seasoning and being a little older now. Now, I hope the Braves do trade him, they can certainly do better in the rotation than Mike Minor.

Kat

February 23rd, 2012
10:39 pm

Yikes! Interesting read….

Jeff

February 23rd, 2012
10:53 pm

I don’t have any problem with what Minor said, what he said is true. I see some here (and other places) are twisting Minor’s comments. They’re making it out like Minor is demanding a rotation spot or trade, but that isn’t the case at all. He is just saying he should be in the Majors (and also using his common sense with regard to Huddy’s return).

If Minor isn’t in the rotation this year, then we probably should trade him. Furthermore, I seriously doubt that’s what he wants to happen. But I agree with his point that it would be in the Braves best interest in that case.

Bobby's Cox

February 23rd, 2012
10:56 pm

Trade him. We should’ve traded him in the offseason anyway instead of trying to trade Prado. We have too many pitchers, and Minor got outpitched by both the young phenoms. He’s probably our worst pitcher and should even be less considered behind Medlen, and he’s got a crappy attitude to boot.

onlyonce

February 23rd, 2012
11:28 pm

All this is a result of having too many pitchers, they should have traded one of these outstanding pitchers for one outstanding hitter, problem solved!

Bob the Blogger

February 23rd, 2012
11:52 pm

I think it’s just a matter of time before one of these eight starting pitchers gets traded. It could be JJ after he and Hudson prove to be healthy, and/or it could be after Chipper retires to acquire his replacement.

Jville

February 24th, 2012
12:06 am

Kris Medlen never whined, start him

Ozzie

February 24th, 2012
1:19 am

Too bad he didn’t say this when Hunter Pence was available. Had they offered Minor they may have gotten him.

Derek

February 24th, 2012
1:25 am

If Minor pitches decently in spring (3.50 ERA), which there’s no reason why he couldn’t, and still gets beat out for the 5th spot by someone (Teheran, Delgado) pitching better, then they should trade him. That’d be a clear indication that they’re going in a different direction, with a younger (presumably better) pitcher. No harm by Minor to share his desire, but now he has to back it up and pitch well.

ISH

February 24th, 2012
1:37 am

I’m all for trading Minor.. I’ve never been impressed by his stuff, if they can get something for him then I say do it..

Matt

February 24th, 2012
3:12 am

Minor has not proved anything other then the fact that he needs no more Triple A seasoning. Until he can prove himself in spring training he is nothing. To me he can be a Major Leaguer on any other team maybe, but with what the Braves have coming up behind him, he is nothing. He had the chance to come up last season and stay and guess what he failed. As a matter of fact who was it that walked 4 brewers hitters to give up a run? Oh wait that’s correct it was Mr. Big Mouth Minor who walked in those 4 runs. So until he has proven to the braves and to the braves fans as well that he is not over confidence he should shut his mouth and go out there on the mound and prove he belongs plain and simple.

Dick Waters

February 24th, 2012
3:18 am

send him to …. DETROIT!

Nick Manning

February 24th, 2012
3:22 am

Nobody tell him that the Royals are just a AAA Braves, ok?

Paul

February 24th, 2012
3:31 am

I don’t know if any of you armchair gurus have been paying attention for the last few years, but the Braves can scarcely afford to part with any of their pitching prospects. Hudson, JJ, Hanson, and Beachy have all missed significant time the last few years due to injury. Huddy will start the season on the DL (and isn’t gettin’ any younger), Hanson is gambling on a new delivery to prevent further injury to his shoulder, and JJ has chronic knee problems. I won’t even comment on Medlen’s prospects for the rotation. He’s a reliever right now and needs to stay that way. Beachy is probably the most promising of the bunch, but he’s made about as many big league starts as Minor at this point.

Minor has a lot of upside, is still young, and most importantly, is being paid the league minimum. So what if he came out and said something stupid? Plenty of Braves have said and done a lot worse. No, I’m afraid it’s no excuse to part with talent, especially when the team can barely afford to do so.

Alphonzo

February 24th, 2012
3:43 am

Paul, I’m not going to whoop your ass for saying something stupid.

Matt

February 24th, 2012
4:02 am

I won’t whoop your ass for saying something stupid either Paul. But if Minor was worth his salt he’d be in the major leaues with the braves already. I am sorry but that is just how it is.

Paul

February 24th, 2012
5:34 am

What a nonsensical argument. He flat out dominated AAA between 2010-11, and not the phoney-baloney Chuck James “AAAA” kid of dominance, either. And what evidence are you using to dismiss his case as a potential big league starter? That he was pushed into emergency duty when the rotation fell apart in early August the last two years and wore down? That he didn’t pitch no-hitters against the playoff-caliber teams? Give me a break.

Paul

February 24th, 2012
5:35 am

And what exactly have I said that can be construed as stupid? Please, enlighten me.

GOP Cannon

February 24th, 2012
7:14 am

Minor has a great attitude about spring training.

Paulisanidiot

February 24th, 2012
7:28 am

“Minor has a lot of upside, ”

False- He has the upside of a three starter at best

“Beachy is probably the most promising of the bunch”
Did you forget JT, and RD idiot

“I won’t even comment on Medlen’s prospects for the rotation. He’s a reliever right now and needs to stay that way”

And why is this

Your just making a ton of idiotic statements in support of a pitcher with a high whip . No out pitch and a guy who doesn’t pitch deep into games.

Trade Minor, Start Meds

February 24th, 2012
8:11 am

<—- Just like the name says folks!

Swede

February 24th, 2012
8:17 am

Paul, I can’t speak for the people who critisized you, but I think your labelling of other commentators might have something to do with it.

“…that’s some two-faced garbage fanspeak…” 08:43 pm
“…if any of you armchair gurus have been paying attention for the last few years…” 03:31 am

You comparing Beachy and Minor with “…[Beachy] has made about as many big league starts as Minor…” without mentioning that Beachy has a 3.62 ERA / 1.24 WHIP over 28 starts, and Minor a 4.74 ERA / 1.52 WHIP over 23 starts, might also be seen as cherrypicking by some.

I personally rank Beachy together with JJ, Hanson and Hudson, and would also put Medlen (although he will probably end up in the bullpen) ahead of Minor at this point. In a somewhat longer timeframe I think both Teheran and Delgado, and also possibly Vizcaino, will surpass Beachy, Medlen and Minor.

Just my two cents worth…

(sorry for any abuse of the english language, it’s not my mother language…)

Jefferson

February 24th, 2012
8:18 am

I say we trade Jurrjens for say a bobby abreu or someone to help in left field since we all know Prado will be at third most of the year…. Who would you realistically trade Jurrjens for???

Definately not a 38 yr old outfielder. Geez…. Alot better off keeping Jurrjens. Anyone remember how good this kid was 1st half? he was healthy then. IF he cant start to pitch a whole season after 2012 then i look to trade him but for now hes decent on price and better than alot we can get for the price. Maybe atlanta will hope hes healthy till July. Pitches like he did in 2011 and can trade him for a CF to replace Bourn. Then sign Oswalt for rest of 2012. Sounds good to me!

Jefferson

February 24th, 2012
8:24 am

Everyone on here obviously has tons of armchair opinions especially those of Minor. Fact is stats dont lie

Minor, 24, was 5-3 with a 4.14 ERA in 15 major league starts last season. He went 5-1 with a 3.51 ERA in his last 10, with 59 strikeouts and 16 walks in 56-1/3 innings

24 yr old with those #’s and a Lefty and hes cheap. If you honestly want to trade him your an idiot!!!! Minor as a 5 starter thats a freakn steal!!!

This team will i hope have Minor is the rotation for years to come. With atlanta picking between Jurrjens or Hanson. Then beachy. Then Minor. Then Delgado. Then Teheran thats a good set rotation in 3 years

Jefferson

February 24th, 2012
8:26 am

Also Hudson will be back in atlanta on a 3 years deal after this year. He’ll sign a hometowm discount and stay here no doubt

Also expect either Jurrjens or Hanson to be traded for a CF prospect to replace Bourn (unless things fall into place and he takes 8M or less)

So next year i expect to see

Hudson
Hanson or Jurrjens
Beachy
Minor
Delgado or Teheran

With Delgado or Teheran being the call up guy when someone gets hurt. Also could see Gilmartin getting a start or 2 next year

SavannahBravesFan

February 24th, 2012
9:00 am

Jefferson,

Why would we trade JJ and sign Oswalt? Did you not notice we have a ton of pitchers available? What would be the point of trading a starter then? Just to sign another one that 1) will already be on another team by then and 2) will be a HEFTY price tag (even if for a couple of months)? That makes no sense at all. I can see JJ being traded, even though it would suck, but it wouldn’t kill this team.

bvillebaron

February 24th, 2012
9:16 am

No excuse:

If you really think that Minor is already better than JJ, I want some of what you’re smoking.

G

February 24th, 2012
9:32 am

Mediocre pitching staff is not going to get it done this year

Paul

February 24th, 2012
9:45 am

JJ is basically an overvalued commodity and he’s only going to get pricier and probably pitch fewer innings nonetheless. It makes all the sense in the world to trade a guy like that when you’ve got a guy with nothing left to prove in AAA in Minor.

And to the imaginatively named “Paulisanidiot,” you need to face some facts, or at least some valid opinions. JT and RD (he of the deceptively low ERA but poor peripherals) need to start the year in AAA rather than the major for the same reason that Beachy got the nod last year over Minor: because they have more to gain by honing their talents in the minors instead of being pressed into service with the big club. As for Medlen, he’s only started a handful of games between the minors and the majors, has put up superior numbers as a reliever, and would fill a hole until (hopefully) Moylan comes back. I typically am of the opinion that starters are always more valuable than relievers, but the way Fredi manages the ‘pen you’re going to want every stud arm down there you can find.

And why doesn’t Minor pitch deeper into games. Come on. His name isn’t Roy Halladay and this is 2012. Not many pitchers give you more than 5 innings per starts. But as for not having an out pitch, well, I must be missing something with that 8.8 K/9 ratio.

Paulisanidiot

February 24th, 2012
9:59 am

Paul you talk facts well hmm maybe he doesn’t pitch deeper in games because of his pitch count be he walks peoples + gives so many hits did that ever occur to you face he’s a weak back end of the rotation type. We don’t need him and his trade value will never be higher.

BHunt

February 24th, 2012
10:02 am

I guess i see his point. no need for him to just dominate AAA and get older. I’d say trade him, but man do we need a lefty in our starting rotation.

Guess this is one of those problems that every team would love to have. too much quality pitching.

BHunt

February 24th, 2012
10:05 am

i agree with Jefferson. and his prediction of the 2013 rotation is probably what it will look like. We probably wont keep both Hanson and Jurrjens past this year. One will go because they are both Boras clients. I would prefer to keep Hanson is his revamped pitching motion can save his shoulder.

Hudson
Hanson
Beachy
Minor
Teheran

With Teheran and Hanson soon becoming the #1/#2 starters.

stew

February 24th, 2012
10:08 am

Trade Hanson (drunk), JJ (lost his velocity), Huddy (too old), and Meds (injured). New rotation – Beachy, Minor, Teheran, and Delgado and a fifth starter. Can we get a right handed power stud for left field? And someone to take over third for Chip (like Wright)? Do we have enough pieces to trade?

honeybee

February 24th, 2012
10:11 am

You take a broken JJ And a mouthy Minor and you can get an Adam Jones. Pitchers dont hit. Thats what we need is someone that can hit.

BHunt

February 24th, 2012
10:11 am

stew – yikes. may as well start from scratch. Arnt all baseball players drunks? JJ will get his velocity back, and you cant just get rid of Huddy becasue he is old when he is still dominate. his experience in the club house is priceless. you need a vet to help out these 21-25 year olds. And Wright has been injury prone for 2 years and had lost ALL of his power. Hes a waste of money.

Nick

February 24th, 2012
10:20 am

Why isn’t Medlin even getting a shot? He’s proven way more than Minor and has a much better attitude about the situatin than Minor.

David O'Brien

February 24th, 2012
10:20 am

Trade Hanson (drunk), JJ (lost his velocity), Huddy (too old), and Meds (injured). New rotation – Beachy, Minor, Teheran, and Delgado and a fifth starter. — stew

Please let me know the last time a team made it to the playoffs, let alone won a pennant or World Series, with a starting rotation that young and/or inexperienced. We have all day, if you’d like to do some research and find a team that did it.

[...] fifth starter. But yesterday he made it clear that, if there’s any doubt about that, he’d just as soon be traded: “Overall, it’s not really – it’s about making the team, but if … I can control my third [...]

TB

February 24th, 2012
10:33 am

Minor is starting to sound like Jason Marquis & the Braves will do just that (trade him) if he doesn’t keep his mouth shut. Either trade him or sentence him to minor league purgatory. He might as will face it. He is under their control to do what they want. You can get sent down anytime when you’re not performing, and for pitchers it’s the rule rather than the exception. Shut up & pitch!

Wyoming

February 24th, 2012
10:46 am

Minor really irritates me. Ever sense he first arrived on the scene he’s had a bad attitude. Sorry but I haven’t seen anything good enough from him to equate into him already making trade demands. Dumb kid. Get rid of him imo. Braves don’t need players that expect a spot on the roster while pitching to a 4.74 career ERA. I don’t care if he’s a lefty. Prove you belong kid before you start talking. This is the BIGS.

Lobosolo

February 24th, 2012
10:49 am

stew (pee-head)

FEAR

February 24th, 2012
10:50 am

Boy, running his trap already? A 4.14 ERA isn’t that awesome Mikey. You might wind up in SD or Pitts.

David O'Brien

February 24th, 2012
11:00 am

Former major league pitcher C.J. Nitkowski had a great line on Twitter: New anti doping loophole: coincide PED usage with FedEx/Kinkos store hours.

Puma

February 24th, 2012
11:21 am

It does seem like Minor is pushing the trade a little early…I think the comments from Meds is more in line with what you should be saying – I want to pitch, but I will do whatever it takes, etc, etc.

Although you’ve got to sympathize with him some – there’s one spot for Medlin, Minor, Delgado, Tehran and Vizcaino. And Minor, although lefty, is probably the worst in that group, at least long term. However, if he sits tight, I am sure Hanson or JJ will go down at some point. I also got to think that JJ will be trade bait if he can put together a good first half.

Bravo_F 52

February 24th, 2012
11:24 am

I hope Minor has a major year

Huge

February 24th, 2012
11:27 am

I’d be upset too if i was good enough for the majors and making a minor league salary instead of a major league salary. Big difference.

Lemke's Knuckler

February 24th, 2012
11:39 am

DOB “Please let me know the last time a team made it to the playoffs, let alone won a pennant or World Series, with a starting rotation that young and/or inexperienced”

Youngest group of pitchers I can think of that made it to the WS are the 2003 Marlins (Beckett 23, Penny 25, Willis 21, Pavano 27) or the 2008 Rays (Kazmir 24, Jackson 24, Garza 24, Shields 26).

Oh, and the ‘91 Braves with Glavine 25, Smoltz 24 and Avery 21, but they also had Leibrandt and his sorry 34 year old cheeseball to Puckett butt.

Lemke's Knuckler

February 24th, 2012
11:42 am

Minor knows he can pitch at the major league level, and I think he’s smart enough to know that if he doesn’t have a rotation spot in May when Hudson comes back, then he probably never will with the 3 young rockets coming up. Media & fans will make a big deal about his comment, but I could care less what he says as long as pitches to his abilities and gives the Braves a chance to win every time out.

nashvillewill

February 24th, 2012
11:48 am

After Beachy Minor is the best young pitcher on the staff; let’s give him a chance to show what he can do without the yoyoing between AAA and the Big Braves. Give him the ball and let him go. He’s the only left-hander we’ve got! Hudson, Hanson, Jurrgens, Medlen–all either injured or coming off injuries. Fate of the team determined by 1) how injured starters recover 2) how Delgado, Teheran, and Minor pitch. I don’t like the prospects of this team being any better than .
.500 (barring ROY season by Teheran or Delgado) but build for 2013 by working in young pitchers and not overusing bullpen. C’mon Fredi: do a better job with the pitchers this time!

Zing

February 24th, 2012
11:55 am

Anybody else surprised at Minor’s quote about the rotation competition? You don’t usually see a player that young essentially demanding a trade if he doesn’t get what he wants.

Lemke's Knuckler

February 24th, 2012
11:55 am

Honestly, even if the Braves don’t bring back Hudson next year and trade Jurrjens as expected, there is still a logjam in the rotation: Hanson, Beachy, Medlen, Minor, Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino.

They can probably hold back Vizcaino another year, but the other guys need a rotation spot or probably need to go elsewhere. And those of you who leave Medlen out of the conversation are sorely mistaken. I think he’s got a better overall makeup than all the other young pitchers and will be a consistent 15-20 win guy, assuming he gets his starts.

Paul

February 24th, 2012
12:27 pm

Atlanta’s 91 staff was young but hardly inexperienced. Smoltz was already an all star, and along with glavine had already pitched a few hundreds of innings at the ML Level. A staff anchored by MM and BB would probably start opening day with around 400 IP in the bigs, if not less.

Mark's for the Braves

February 24th, 2012
1:47 pm

Minor is a little cocky, but may be he can back it up with a big year. He needs to put his ability where his mouth is and give us 170+ innings and 15 wins and a 3.50 ERA. Then we can say he is what he says he is.

OC

February 24th, 2012
1:50 pm

Does Minor have any options left ?

bobbymahlon

February 24th, 2012
2:08 pm

I do not believe Minor’s stuff is as good as either Teheran or Delgado so his top side is not as high as theirs. So trade Minor and make both sides happy.

COACH MAC

February 24th, 2012
3:01 pm

Confidence is a good thing when harnessed to maturity & I’m not seeing it in Minor. He should be smart enough to recognize Hudson is older & anything related to the back is rough…especially as small as Huddy is. Hanson has not proven he can stay healthy in the shoulder zone. JJ may have a chronic knee, which greatly affects his delivery. There are 3 giant reasons to be patient for an extended role. IF he is afraid of the competition from Vicaiano, Del Gado or Teheran…then he isn’t worth the paper his contract is written on. GO EARN YOUR JOB YOUNG MAN!

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Zing

February 24th, 2012
4:42 pm

Maybe he’ll surprise us, but I think it’s just a bit rich for a guy who’s likely top-end potential is as a #3 starter to be making trade demands. Don’t get me wrong, I hope he totally kicks butt; but those comments were pretty off-putting.

Zing

February 24th, 2012
4:42 pm

coo coo bird fan

February 25th, 2012
10:42 am

He’s a lefty that can eat innings and strike people out, period!!! He can be a moron, disrespectful or whatever else you wanna call him. IMO he was neither of the two, just honest when asked a leading question. I like someone on our pitching staff actually giving a hoot about if he pitches or not.

Justin Shoemake

February 25th, 2012
11:28 pm

Why is everyone taking Minor’s words out of context? He simply meant if he isn’t good enough to keep a starting job then it would benefit both parties if they just traded him so he could get a starting job somewhere else and Atlanta could get a great return while his value is still up. I see no problem with his comments. It just shows me he is confident in himself.

Braves20

February 26th, 2012
10:37 am

Should have dumped this dude last year when we had a shot at Pence. He’s the second coming of Chuck James.

TJ

February 26th, 2012
4:52 pm

@honeybee, Really, sign OswalT (not Oswald)? We have 8 guys who could step into the rotation at any point, and would be in most MLB teams rotation. 7 of those guys are under the age of 26 (Hanson, Jurrjens, Minor, Beachy, Teheran, Delgado, Medlen). Of those 7, 4 have been in top 100 prospects in all of baseball within the last 3 years (Hanson, Teheran, Delgado and Minor). Plus, we have Arodys Vizcaino, whom Keith Law believes is our best prospect, but will most likely be a reliever this year, and potentially make the transition to starter in a year or two (Think Wilson, Ogando, Feliz with the Rangers). We have no room for an injury prone, aging pitcher. We have enough injury question marks, but have plenty of (too much in my opinion) pitching talent waiting in the wings. I would actually love to see us make a trade for the pitcher that our FO thinks is the most likely to be a bust and got top value for them as a prospect to land a 3rd base/Left Field prospect (Mike Moustakas would be the one I would love to see if we could pry him away from KC). $5-$10 million for an aging former star in free agency would be the worst possible way to allocate any free money, of which there may not be any, that the Braves have.

[...] to a report by AJC blogger David O’Brien, Mike Minor has stated that if he is not given the fifth spot in the Braves rotation, he wants out [...]

[...] non-ultimatum fashion, Minor insisted on avoiding Triple-A altogether if he missed out on the Braves starting rotation. Here are his comments from a story [...]

[...] non-ultimatum fashion, Minor insisted on avoiding Triple-A altogether if he missed out on the Braves starting rotation. Here are his comments from a story [...]

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