Hanson still out; Teheran/Delgado not ‘pen options

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – Tommy Hanson missed his third consecutive workout day since sustaining a concussion in a one-car accident on Monday, when he went off the road while driving to the ballpark for the Braves’ opening workout.

The 6-foot-6 pitcher was diagnosed with a Grade 1 concussion and manager Fredi Gonzalez said the Braves would be cautious easing him back into action, perhaps beginning on Thursday.

“I think he’s going to come out tomorrow and just do a little bit of stuff,” said Gonzalez, who said Hanson would likely begin with some work on a stationary bike. “But we might not see him on the field, until we make sure that he gets cleared.”

Hanson has not spoken with reporters since the accident and hasn’t suited up for the first three days of workouts for pitchers and catchers. The Braves’ first full-squad workout is Saturday.

Gonzalez said he didn’t think missing the first five days of workouts would set Hanson back. He confirmed Hanson and Jurrjens are leading candidates to start opening day with Tim Hudson expected to miss at least a few weeks recovering from back surgery.

Teheran, Delgado not ‘pen candidates

Braves top pitching prospects Julio Teheran and Randall Delgado are projected to be in a starting rotation to begin the season, rather than the major league bullpen.

After saying a few weeks ago that Teheran or Delgado would be bullpen candidates if one or the other didn’t win a spot in the starting rotation, Gonzalez changed course Wednesday and said the two needed to pitch as starters, in the majors or minors.

Teheran and Delgado will compete with Mike Minor for the fifth spot in the Braves’ rotation, but two of the three are expected in the opening-day rotation with one filling in temporarily for Hudson.

You hate to send one of those kids to the bullpen as a long guy,” Gonzalez said, “when we could have them in Double-A or Triple-A – I assume both will pitch Triple-A, or Minor would pitch Triple-A – where at least you could let them pitch every fifth day.”

Fredi G on Constanza:  “He fits”

When asked if Jose Constanza would get a look this spring as a possible roster candidate, Gonzalez said the speedy outfielder would get more than that.

“He did enough last year that he deserves to get not [just] a look, but an opportunity,” said Gonzalez, adding that Constanza could fit as a backup outfielder if the rest of the five-man bench is outfielder Matt Diaz, corner infielder/outfielder Eric Hinske, catcher David Ross and infielder Jack Wilson.

Constanza made his major league debut at age 27 last season and hit .303 with two homers, 10 RBIs and seven steals in 42 games (109 at-bats).

“He fits,” Gonzalez said. “Constanza fits, even with Diaz, Hinske, Rossy and Wilson. That’s five [backups], eight [starters] and 12 pitchers. So he fits.”

29 comments Add your comment

jim

February 22nd, 2012
6:02 pm

Having Teheran and DelGado in the pen made no sense, especially with the depth already available — Kimbrell, Ventersw, EOF, Medlen, Vizcaino, Varvaro, Ascenio, Martiniez, and Fish.

Ron Roberts

February 22nd, 2012
6:08 pm

I’d feel much better if Medlen were in the rotation, especially with Hudson missing the first few weeks. Not sure why Fredi G is so adamantly opposed to it.

David the Shepherd

February 22nd, 2012
6:15 pm

Really hope Constanza gets to play a lot and is successful this year. He seems like a good person and I love his effort. On the Chipper front tho, wow, he looks like he didn’t train very effectively during the off-season, huh?

Tampa Gator

February 22nd, 2012
6:16 pm

Ron Roberts….

If the Braves had Moylan available, Medlen would probably be preping to star this spring. Currently, the Braves need Medlen in the pen and he has proven that he can do it….and do it well. He is also recovering from serious surgery….and pitching short innings every 2nd or 3rd day will build his arm up better than pitching every 5 days. At least, that is why I think the Braves want him in the pen right now. He can always move into the rotation if needed later.

dap01

February 22nd, 2012
6:16 pm

How good is Ascenio? Constanza does provide the speed for a pinch runner and base stealing threat.

iopbrave

February 22nd, 2012
6:20 pm

I’m afraid that bench is not going strike fear in theh earts of too many at the plate . Hopefully Hinske rebounds this year and Ross is solid again. Over and under for homers for Wilson & Constanza is 2. Hopefully Diaz can step up too

David O'Brien

February 22nd, 2012
6:24 pm

How good is Ascenio?

Jair Asencio has a good arm and has learned how to pitch. Had a 1.81 ERA, 1.116 WHIP and 26 saves in 47 appearances last season for Gwinnett, with 70 strikeouts (22 walks) in 54-2/3 innings. This after missing the previous season while stuck in the D.R. following his fake-identity mess (he previously went under name “Luis Valdez” in minors with Pirates and Braves).

A few weeks ago, he won the MVP award in Carribbean Series while closing for Dominican team.

TheAntiMe

February 22nd, 2012
6:25 pm

Wow, DOB, I can see you are ready to get this thing started. This is like your third column is the past 5 minutes. :) They are very much appreciated because this dude is ready for some hardball. LET’S GO BRAVES!!!

bvillebaron

February 22nd, 2012
6:28 pm

Thank god they realized that it makes no sense to put either Delgado or Teheran in the pen.

keepinitreal

February 22nd, 2012
6:36 pm

I feel like Medlen’s become the forgotten man. No one seems to remember how solid he was in 2010 before he blew his arm out. He was a lock to give you six quality innings. I understand Teheran and Delgado are great prospects, but I think Medlen should get the first crack at replacing Hudson.

Regardless of where he ends up, I’m very glad to have him back on the staff.

What The....?

February 22nd, 2012
7:14 pm

Not only are our players injury prone on the field….. they have no clue how to drive a damn car!

This is rediculous! What next? Maybe the Braves player need to be fitted with full body air-bags so they won’t hurt themselves.

Greg

February 22nd, 2012
7:24 pm

Who was more fun to watch than Constanza? We have to have him! How about his energy level, which must be an terrific asset? I was amazed at both his hitting and his speed. This is a no-brainer. Great player.

braveslover

February 22nd, 2012
7:46 pm

Maybe Chipper’s new philosophy is that he misses 50-60 games a year when he’s in shape so maybe he won’t get injured as much as a fat man. Won’t have to worry about speed so his legs will be ok, won’t be able to whip the bat through the zone so his obliques will be ok, won’t get hurt trying to get to toppers at third so his knees and toes will be ok, won’t be able to cut the ball off going to the hole so his groin will be ok. Of course he will be pretty useless but he’ll still be drawing his millions, will be healthy, and will get his buyout clause. Mrs. Jones didn’t raise no dummy.

TJ

February 22nd, 2012
8:13 pm

I see quite a few people saying that Medlen is the forgotten man, and they forgot how good he was in ‘10, but they haven’t forgotten how good he was in ‘10, but rather realized that he has just been much more effective in the pen than the rotation. The fact is he was very solid as a starter, but he really has been exceptional out of the ‘pen in his career. The value here is letting the only 1 of the 4 potential 5th starters (Minor, Teheran, Delgado, Medlen) that you would want to work out of the ‘pen due to the top prospect and top tier stuff.

Larry

February 22nd, 2012
9:11 pm

Fredi G on Constanza: “He fits”

When asked if Jose Constanza would get a look this spring as a possible roster candidate, Gonzalez said the speedy outfielder would get more than that.

“He did enough last year that he deserves to get not [just] a look, but an opportunity,” said Gonzalez,

Then why did you sit him, Freddi?

Chipper (Chumper)

February 22nd, 2012
9:22 pm

Yeah man! Whoopee!! Bigger butt, thunder thighs, pot belly, and jowls. Yeee Haaa baby. Now there is just more the fans to love.

Just ran the 40 in 20.9 seconds!

jim

February 22nd, 2012
9:30 pm

I only saw the picture of Chipper standing next to Prado in yesterday’s blog. He did not seem fat in that picture.

Mark (another one)

February 22nd, 2012
9:38 pm

The word is Chipper lost weight. I don’t care if he gained or lost 50 lbs. as long as he plays to his level.

Rafael

February 22nd, 2012
11:14 pm

WHY is no-talent bum Matt Diaz on this or ANY MLB roster??????!!!!!!

Scottbravesfan

February 23rd, 2012
3:04 am

If you only judged our fan base by the comments on this blog, I feel bad for DOB sometimes.

Stinger2

February 23rd, 2012
4:00 am

DOB: What is your opinion about Chipper? You have seen him, the Bloggers have only seen pictures. Does he appear
to be reasonably fit or is he really out of shape?

Swede

February 23rd, 2012
6:58 am

@Greg 7:24 – To me it seems like JC was like two different players. Great in August (.342 / .392 / .452, 7 SB) and not at all impressive in September (.174 / .174 / .174, 0 SB). Hope spring training shows the JC of August, but we just have to wait and see…

The team future is bright, though… :-)

MikeY

February 23rd, 2012
7:01 am

I’d feel more love for Constanza if he hit right-handed. We are too left-handed hitting already, last year we were dead last in MLB against LH pitching. We need another right-handed bat (and Matt Diaz is not the final solution there). My guess is that once the pitching injuries are all settled, Wren will trade a pitcher for a RH bat. At least that is my hope.

Constanza used to switch hit before a hand injury, I wonder if he could resume switch hitting?

Ed

February 23rd, 2012
7:26 am

Make no mistake- Medlen is the best pitcher on this team.

really

February 23rd, 2012
10:23 am

Ed, he is a good, solid pitcher, but that is a ridiculous proclamation to make

nashvillewill

February 23rd, 2012
11:22 am

So, let’s see who is the best (starting) pitcher on this team?
-Medlen: coming off a layoff year of recovering from surgery?
-Hanson: coming off an injury and with a re-tooled delivery since the old one was likely to reinjure?
-Jurrgens: coming off an injury, a layoff, and injury-prone?
-Hudson: coming off back surgery and aging?
-Minor: talent, but unproven; at least he’s a lefty?
-Delgado/Teheran: unproven rookies with a lot of upside, but no track record?
It does not take a lot of analysis to see this is a problem area. Many things have to come together for this group to be adequate, let alone exceptional. I still look for this to be a tough year. Maybe give the ball to the rookies and let them learn on-the-job. But for Braves to be any better than .500 would be surprising.

TB

February 23rd, 2012
12:17 pm

I’ve missed seeing Costanza lick hi bat!

The Monger

February 23rd, 2012
4:13 pm

Nashville Will the Village Idiot with ANY negative comment about our elite MLB pitching staff. I believe we had the best bullpen in MLB last year, and the third best starters. Really, thats your post?? I challenge you to actually watch a baseball game every now and again, so you can actually learn the game…and you forgot Beachy in your pathetic “list”. See how easy it is to reverse…

-Hudson- Last 2 years, 17-9 and 16-10 with 2.83 and 3.22 ERA’s. Career 181 wins and 3.40 ERA. (yeah what a bum, wouldnt want him anywhere near a mound). Also by the way, Hudson said he feels better than he has in 7 or 8 years since the back surgery. FAIL.

-Jurrjens- NL All-star last year,13-6 with a 2.96 ERA before going down. 50 career wins and 3.40 ERA. (yeah another bum).

-Hanson 11-7 with 3.60 ERA last year, despite little to no run support. Career 3.28 ERA. (this guy is terrible).

-Beachy- ROY candidate (unfortunately the Braves also have Freeman and Kimbrel). 7-3 with 3.68 ERA. Should have won 13-14 games if not for bullpen and poor offense in his starts. Will only get better with time.

-Minor- 5-3 with 4.14 ERA, once he learns to pitch deeper in games and control his changeup a little better, will be in same class as Teheran and Delgado.

-Medlen 6-2 with 3.68 ERA in 2010. Dominant out of the bullpen during limited action last year.

-Teheran, Delgado, and Vizcaino- Dominant, Elite pitchers that will be with the Braves for years to come. All three have 15-20 win potential as starters (which I hope Vizcaino goes back to). All three are hard throwers with outstanding location and offspeed pitches.

-Thats not even mentioning Sean Gilmartin, who is our best pitcher in the minors right now, another Tom Glavine in training. Amazing control and pitch selection for a kid his age.

Thats 10 dominant starters for the next few years and beyond. That is extreme depth. Did you notice they all had winning records? That everyone except Minor had an ERA is the 3’s or 2’s? Maybe its because we have one of the best, if not the best rotations in MLB? I guess nashvillewill needs to study the game a bit more. Yes injuries happen to pitchers all the time. I wouldnt label guys with ONE career injury like Medlen and Hanson “injury-prone”. Please think next time before posting…

cowdogit

February 23rd, 2012
4:48 pm

I would like to know why Glavine,Maddux and Smoltz never gave any credit to Mazzone for their long hall of fame careers.No doubt Rocking Leo, the greatest pitching coach in braves history was black balled by the brave,s organization.With the brave,s pitchers breaking down every year I think the fans need an explanation on why this dum decision was made.

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