This time, Venters and Kimbrel will ease into spring

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Venice Jim

February 18th, 2012
12:11 am

dies = died… :roll:

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:12 am

New device dropped my eee’s.

Venice Jim

February 18th, 2012
12:12 am

Tom – frequently…

Venice Jim

February 18th, 2012
12:13 am

Moe Berg

February 18th, 2012
12:14 am

abwright–They will be performing ‘Trans Europe Express’ on Friday, April 13th. Is there something doubly ominous about Friday the 13th in the cruelest month?

You should come up to see them. Here is the schedule: http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/exhibitions/1257

Venice Jim

February 18th, 2012
12:15 am

Time for me to head off too…

Tom O'Hawke

February 18th, 2012
12:16 am

No fair! No fair, cheating, VJ!!!

That would take all the fun out of it, wouldn’t it?

Tom O'Hawke

February 18th, 2012
12:17 am

Good night, buddy.

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:18 am

Moe … I can’t believe bands like Kraftwerk are still around.

BTW props on the Worried lyrics earlier. That could be the anthem for the WLBB.

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:20 am

They do concerts in the Museum of Modern Art? Must be a small venue.

Venice Jim

February 18th, 2012
12:20 am

McFann – if you’ve never seen Gigi, TCM at 8:30 a.m. – be there…

Venice Jim

February 18th, 2012
12:21 am

Tom – yes, it does – but I was too tired to think – plus, this is my 3rd time through the list over the past 18 months (with some changes)…

Venice Jim

February 18th, 2012
12:22 am

and I thought of Clarksville before I found that site, if it does come up in the next 2…

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:25 am

One day older and shorter of breath … One day closer to Spring Training.

Far away across the field the popping of mitts calls the faithful to their seats to hear the loudly declaimed “Play ball!”

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 18th, 2012
12:25 am

Just watched Humans vs Zombies on Chiller. Decent flick but not gonna make my top 100 zombie list.

Tom O'Hawke

February 18th, 2012
12:26 am

Ha! “Last Time” & “Last Train to Clarksville”, BOTH made their list. Well done! Now, go to bed. ;)

Moe Berg

February 18th, 2012
12:27 am

abeeewright–Completely agree that it is astounding that such bands are still around. Would not have noticed at all, except that an old friend who lives on the Upper West Side posted something about it on Facebook. Surreal to think that they are still around. (I guess I did just go see Chick Corea’s Electric Band recently.

Yep. My brother had Monty Python’s ‘Contractual Obligation Tape’ growing up. Hence, I became quite aware of the lyrics about being worried. Quite apropos of the blog mindset.

Moe Berg

February 18th, 2012
12:30 am

Yes, at The Modern. Some type of performance with interaction with the environment. I agree. It cannot be too large. Tickets go on sale next Wednesday.

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:35 am

Moe … Occasionally I’ll look around at 70’s bands and figure this might be the last chance to see them.

But, I guess we’re in the demographic that has some disposable income but isn’t too infirm to travel. So, more of the Chick Correia’s might come out for a last hurrah.

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:38 am

I used to have “Contractual Obligation” and “The album of the trailer of the film of Monty python and the holy grail.”. Lot’s of good stuff there.

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:41 am

I’m about to conk out. Looks like its time to leave the blog to “ward and the nite owls.”

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:42 am

Uh oh … I’ve been staring into the blog and I fear it is starting to look back into me.

Moe Berg

February 18th, 2012
12:42 am

I have seen a few of older bands here and there giving their last hurrah’s–from Herbie Hancock to Chick Correia, to Pink Floyd to The Eagles to B.B. King to Santana to Bob Dylan to many others. It is fun to do, I guess. But somehow, nostalgia seems stifling.

Yes, I do enjoy some Python. Must call it a night. Had bad insomnia last night. Adieu.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 18th, 2012
12:43 am

Night , night John boy, I’m gonna hit the hay myself.

Tom O'Hawke

February 18th, 2012
12:45 am

abeeewright

Have you ever noticed how DOB’s caption picture follows you all around the room? Freaky stuff.

Roman Gal

February 18th, 2012
12:54 am

Tom O'Hawke

February 18th, 2012
1:02 am

On a more serious note… I found the subject matter in David’s new blog to be very appealing to me – not that any others aren’t, just that this one hits more ‘home’ to me. I’ll probably reread it tomorrow.
I’ve always spent a lot of time with working out & exercising etc.
I find it interesting to learn what different athletes do to get in shape before the season starts.
Especially relievers, especially good ones, especially ‘ours’.

It’s just information you have a hard time finding anywhere else.
Thank you, Mr. O’Brien.

(Hi, RG)

Salt life

February 18th, 2012
1:27 am

I can’t go outside without a cochophany of leopard frogs and spring peepers and two great horned owls……..they must know that baseball is back!!! Btw my wife made me listen to the Presidents of the United States of America……..never heard of em

Salt life

February 18th, 2012
1:29 am

Moe…..love love love Chick Correia

Salt life

February 18th, 2012
1:38 am

Hello Ward…..I’ll be asleep when you get here…….I feel like you must…….blogging to myself

Salt life

February 18th, 2012
1:41 am

I’m listening to Kwaftwerk’s Computer World…….got to be time to take my drunk ass to bed…….BAS, hoist one for me…..I’ve done the same for you

Salt life

February 18th, 2012
1:54 am

I can say I’m doing anything cause nobody’s here to question me. Shaun….does obp count more than RBI? Can a robot play baseball better than a human? Are you really a human? Do you actually believe that people argue numbers with you? Do you actually believe that if you type the same thing over again and again and again and again and again and again and agin and again that real live people that breathe air and have blood running through their veins and have original thoughts and love their families and have jobs and discuss their problems and small victories with their friends will ever take you seriously? You deserve that

Salt life

February 18th, 2012
2:12 am

I’m a mean drunk……I’m sorry Shaun. (you still deserve it)

DS1

February 18th, 2012
2:27 am

Rest well Salt!

How ya doing Ward? (I won’t be here long)

Hope everybody else is well. I haven’t been on a lot the last couple of weeks. The missus had some surgery a little over 2 weeks ago. Been busy helping her when not on the road.

I enjoyed the article DOB. Thanks. Do you think that the Braves will be looking to deal some pitching (Jurrjens? or a back end of the pen reliever) this spring for a bat? I guess a lot will depend on how our existing guys are doing.

Obviously Heyward and Prado will be key this year (and Chipper ALWAYS is key). And I am assuming that guys like Mac, FF, Uggla and Bourn will be near career norms. Does Freddie have a “career norm” yet with only one year?

And I’m hoping that Matty D has more in the tank (with Hinske and Ross)

It’ll also be interesting to see how the Pastor comes through for the team.

It’s going to be an interesting year four shore……….

David O'Brien

February 18th, 2012
2:52 am

Cristhian Martinez and Jairo Asencio are out of minor-league options. They are the only Braves competing for roster spots who are out of options.

nolie

February 18th, 2012
3:22 am

Kimbrel
Venters
O’F
Medlen
Martinez
Ascencio
Vizcaino

to start ??

nolie

February 18th, 2012
3:25 am

I am becoming more and more convinced that Liberty Media is actually Beelzebub
When big amounts come off the payroll next year look for them to stuff some of it away and not spend it all on the team……..

Ward

February 18th, 2012
3:42 am

Hello everyone! Rather see Fish instead of Martinez in bull-pen. Wasn’t impressed with Martinez long relief in late innings. Seemed to give up some costly runs.

Ward

February 18th, 2012
3:44 am

With the Braves Farm System Liberty Media,could save a lot of cash in the next few years,and then they could sign a hitter,or some one from free Agency to fill the teams needs.

Ward

February 18th, 2012
3:47 am

With the Braves crop of Young Arms. Braves should compete for a long time.It reminds me of the old Braves,when Glavine, and Avery came up. Build your team around the pitching.

nolie

February 18th, 2012
3:53 am

Martinez had a pretty dang good year. as many Ks as IP and 3 times as many BOB. a WHIP under 1.0. I think you gotta at least try to keep him. Fish is a total unknown, a careeer ERA of almost 5 in the minors;not promising at all

Late Night Bail Bond Guy

February 18th, 2012
4:15 am

Looking forward to the start of another season and making plans for a few days in Orlando. Enjoy Elvis Costello’s music but have to say my favorite is off the George Jones duet album My Very Special Guests. Their duet on Stranger in The House is a classic.
Keep it up DOB and I’ll keep reading.

Ward

February 18th, 2012
4:25 am

nolie- I would like Fish,Fastball mid 90’s,and can be the forth Pitcher behind Kimbrel, Venters,EOF. Fish is unknown,but there has been good things said about him.

Ward

February 18th, 2012
4:34 am

nolie-Martinez can’t have spoty starts in the bull-pen.Can’t have that in late innings in tight ball games. Then give up 4,or 5 runs. He had some struggles,amd weary on him,as of now.He needs to works that out.

Ward

February 18th, 2012
4:36 am

Just don’t know about Martinez? Don’t think has the toughness in the bull-pen,but we will just have to see who makes it.

Ward

February 18th, 2012
4:40 am

All Have a good one! Peace,and talk later today sometime.

ncgary

February 18th, 2012
4:50 am

ward just because a fastball is fast , doesn’t mean its good
ie… maddux fastball wasn’t real fast, but it had that late movement.
102 mph straight fastball alot easier to hit than a 92 mph fastball with late movement

jeffrey d

February 18th, 2012
6:54 am

So you’re saying there’s a chance for me to be a major league pitcher?

ncgary

February 18th, 2012
7:05 am

sure its also a chance you could be hit by a bus

jeffrey d

February 18th, 2012
7:14 am

dap01

February 18th, 2012
8:39 am

Fish will be lucky to make the team. He is definitely behind Martinez, Medlin, Moylan, Visciano and others. He is lefty that can throw hard but he was only so-so at AA. At best, he is able to catch on and contribute a little until he improves A LOT.

dap01

February 18th, 2012
8:42 am

What is the scouting report on Ascenio? What are his chances of being a good part of a bullpen?

I think that barring injury, you will see CK, JV, EOF, Medlin, Martinez, Fish and Ascenio start the year.
You will have Vis at AAA and Moylan rehabbing.

VaBravesFan

February 18th, 2012
8:47 am

Good Morning Everyone. With so much pen depth there is gonna be a handfull of quality guys who are good enough to be in a major league bullpen stuck in AAA. Wonder if teams will call looking for pen help? Cause it wouldn’t hurt to try and add a better bench player.

Lew

February 18th, 2012
8:54 am

If Fish doesn’t make the team, they have to give him back – he’s a Rule Five Player.

VaBravesFan

February 18th, 2012
8:54 am

I was just looking at the 40 man roster. Do any of these guys have a chance to be in the bullpen? Avilan, Chapman, Cordier, Hoover, Gearrin, Redmond. Or they destined to be in AAA, also isnt Redmond and Hoover starters?

Larry

February 18th, 2012
8:55 am

“Venters allowed two runs, two hits and a walk in the eighth inning of the 9-0 loss to the Mets on Aug. 26, the day the Braves’ 10-20 finishing flameout began.”

And just what idiot would be pitching him in the 9th inning of a one-sided game like this? The same idiot that pitched Lowe in must win games the last week of the season.

Lew

February 18th, 2012
8:56 am

I’d hate to see Varvaro not make the pen, too – he contributed a good bit the second half of the season and put up some really good numbers while doing it AND he can pitch multiple innings wich should lighten the workload on the Big Three.

I like the idea of having Martinez, Medlen and Varvaro being able to pitch more than an inning at a time.

Lew

February 18th, 2012
8:59 am

Larry – I keep hearing aboput pitching Lowe, but with Jurrjens and Hanson out of the rotation and Teheran and Delgado already pitching in the roatation at the time, who would you have started instead of Lowe? Vizcaino was pitching in relief, so was Martinez and Medlen had just returned from surgery.

I suppose they could have called up Redmond.

dap01

February 18th, 2012
9:01 am

Great point Larry. That is also the same manager that thinks the only way to win a game is to pitch EOF, JV and CK for an inning. If we win 90 games, they will each make 90 appearances. Then he also pitches then when we are down 3 or up 3. He uses the excuse of “playing by the book” as a crutch to managing. His formula for success will not work over a long 162 game season. He will need to pitch Moylan and Medlin in pressure situations, he will need to alternate JV and CK as closers, he will need to pitch Visc in the 8th inning. He will need to use Medlin as a closer on occasion.

VaBravesFan

February 18th, 2012
9:02 am

Just read on Talking Chop about Simmons more. Looks like his best MLB comparison is Omar Vizquel who is regarded as one of the best defensive shortstops ever. Also owned a 272/337/353 batting line, Jack Wilson is another comparison,,,

IVAN ...

February 18th, 2012
9:25 am

Lew ……..top of am to ya……

Hope your weather is decent, today will be about 60 on Hartwell Lake..
This weather is tough on a heating and air man……..Warm winter means slow pay checks……

David O'Brien

February 18th, 2012
9:26 am

Prince Fielder’s Tigers debut should come against the Braves on March 3 at Dark Star (Disney). That’s Grapefruit League opener for both teams. (Detroit plays Florida Southern on March 2; Braves again are skipping an exhibition against college team. They used to play UGA or Ga Tech each spring before Grapefruit League opener.)

BravePack

February 18th, 2012
9:31 am

DOB

When are you heading down to Dark Star? Looking forward to all your photos from ST and early morning sunrise pics.

David O'Brien

February 18th, 2012
9:35 am

BravePack: Today

brian

February 18th, 2012
9:42 am

DOB – what are the top 3 things you will look for in spring training?

VaBravesFan

February 18th, 2012
9:43 am

Just asked Keith Law on FB about Simmons and if he thinks Omar Vizquel being the ceiling and Jack Wilson being the floor are good comparisons for him. Hopefully he responds.

BravePack

February 18th, 2012
9:44 am

Hope you have a safe, relaxing trip down there. Do you stay at the same place every year? Those sunrise photos from your balcony were something else last year.

BraveDan

February 18th, 2012
9:52 am

DOB,

Cant wait to hear your daily thoughts on Spring Training.

VaBravesFan

February 18th, 2012
9:54 am

DOB

What happens if Pastornicky has a bad spring? Will they still go with him?

dap01

February 18th, 2012
10:03 am

If Pastornicky falls on his face in spring training, I believe that we have Wilson hitting 8th and Hicks backing him up until Pastornicky is ready from AAA.

I also believe that Wren may still try to upgrade the team at the end of spring training or later if JJ proves to be healthy and increases his trade value.

honeybee

February 18th, 2012
10:07 am

Good Morning everyone. What is going on?

ncgary

February 18th, 2012
10:10 am

the suns a shining the birds are singing and baseballs a day away

honeybee

February 18th, 2012
10:37 am

WHY DID everyone get so quiet just because I come on.If no one wants to talk to me, I will be quiet and just listen.

Lew

February 18th, 2012
10:41 am

IVAN – Doing pretty well. Very windy up here today and it seems colder, but we’ve only had 30 inches of snow so far and people are freaking out. The ski resorts are pushing their indoor pools instead of the ski lifts.

BravePack

February 18th, 2012
10:44 am

honeybee welcome back. I know you must be excited about the upcoming season.

honeybee

February 18th, 2012
10:51 am

Yes, I am BravePack. Going to spring training tommorrow and stay until Monday nite. Are you going?

BravePack

February 18th, 2012
10:54 am

I just find it hard that you can’t believe in this team with how well they played for 3/4 of the season last year with so many players not performing most of the season. Surely you would have to think Heyward, Uggla, Prado, McCann will have better seasons than last year? Not to mention the pitching staff will be better as well with Lowe gone. Bullpen will be one of the best, if not the best, in the league. Freeman will hit for more power with a year under his belt. Bourn for the entire season as a catalyst at the top of the order. Lots to be excited about honey.

BravePack

February 18th, 2012
11:00 am

No I live in Chicago and always take my family to Tuner Field to support our Braves in the summer. I’ve always wanted to take the wife and kids to Orlando for ST to experience the family atmosphere of spring like meeting the players and getting autographs for the kids but it’s just too hard this time of year with school and work…maybe one day. Have fun. Get me a Freeman autograph if you can.

honeybee

February 18th, 2012
11:06 am

I am excited, just not optimistic. Hope I am wrong. Talked to one of the braves last nite at work and he said that they all have a chip on their shoulder and they want to prove last year was a fluke. I hope so. Got to go for now. Got to help a friend.

Bayou Brave

February 18th, 2012
11:16 am

To those of you that live out of the Braves market and purchased mlb.tv last year,

1. Are you getting it again this year?

2. Can I play it through my BluRay player on my TV?

3. Can I play it on my iphone and/or ipad?

TIA

Michael

February 18th, 2012
11:17 am

We’ve seen Pastornicky in the minors quite a few times and his defense and arm aren’t really good. I sure hope this guy worked hard over the offseason on his defense if he really is Atlanta’s opening day guy out there. YIKES! He can hit alright and he does have a little speed which is more than Alex G., but you can’t underestimate the importance of strong defense at short.

Tomahawkin

February 18th, 2012
11:35 am

@Bravepack

Agreed abt your post about the Braves predictions…They are a team that can make they playoffs but until they can beat the Phillies in close games late in the season, they are a team that will Be One And Done…

This is a Team that haves to prove that they have heart to win in close games, they haven’t shown us that in 6 years. With the one exception of that game in SF in 2010 where Stankiel hit the homer into McCovey cove in the playoffs

And after I read my Athlon Sports Baseball Annual magazine…I was reminded that B-Macc was having a Career season until that Damn Oblique injury killed his season, he wasn’t right since…That was the start of the Choke/Collapse!

Jeff R

February 18th, 2012
11:36 am

Michael, I can’t imagine that Pastornicky didn’t work on his defense over the break. If Pastornicky proves to be consistently good with his glove, it could buy him a little time to ramp up his offense (if need be).

Jeff R

February 18th, 2012
11:38 am

Tomahawkin, McCann was nagged by injuries in 2010 and 2011. Time he catches a break.

Tomahawkin

February 18th, 2012
11:39 am

@Michael

The Pastor has the potential to steal 15-20 bases (If and only if Bobby Lite enforces a running game)
We will miss Alex’s defense, No Doubt, The pastor just needs to have average D at short…I just want him to not waste at bats at the plate like Gonzo was so Notorious to do…

richbrave

February 18th, 2012
11:40 am

I have no angst about ROBERT FISH making the pen at the expense of a more qualified righ-handed reliefer. Mr. FISH is another in a long line of experiments by the BRAVES to establish credible lefty reliefers in their pen.

ERIC O’FLAHERTY
GEORGE SHERRILL
YOHAN FLANDE
ROBERT FISH
who is just the 2012 version. Actually, so is CHRIS JONES, acquired in the LOWE deal.

The BRAVES continue searching on the Waiver wire [O'FLAHERTY] and in Rule 5 [FISH] for another home run like the one they hit with EOF, as well they should.

But none of this means FISH will beat out a more qualified MARTINEZ, VARVARO, GEARRIN or ASENCIO just because BOBBY is a lefty, and the others aren’t. That’s what ST is all about.

And if he has no place on the 25-man ultimately, what’s the cost? $25,000 and a return to the ANGELS? O.K. No harm, no foul in my book.

Tomahawkin

February 18th, 2012
11:44 am

@Jeff R

Catchers are gonna have nagging injuries every year its a part of the territory, but That oblique strain, screwed B-Macc Up Bad! Last year over the last 2 months

B-Macc’s limit should be abt 130-135 games a season…Which is as much as I Bash Bobby Lite, I did like the fact that he rested B-Macc early last year with impromptu off days, since the Braves were 24-12 in Rossy’s starts last year…

BravePack

February 18th, 2012
11:48 am

Tomahawkin

I agree 100% with your idea that the Braves have to show heart this year and win the close games especially against the Phillthies. To many loses to that team late in games in the past few years. I think the bullpen arms this year will contribute to that happening this year. No more Linestink out there, Proctor, etc. The thing I am most excited about with this years team is the redemption factor I think the clubhouse will have after the collapse last year. I truely believe this team will be playing with a chip on it’s shoulder all year and play the underdog card as a team no one is looking at to unseat the Phillies at the top. The Phillthies have a great pitching staff, no doubt, but the Braves line-up has had success against their aces. I not big on the marketing of seasons each team provides to start the season but if I had to choose something I would simply call this Braves season…Redemption.

PiersonBrave

February 18th, 2012
11:48 am

RE: Carrolls article on Greg Walker was a very nice piece. Must say that I was suprised to learn that the resources to superimpose one video frame over another was that scarce. Would have thought that with todays tech that would have been common. Silly me!

PiersonBrave

February 18th, 2012
11:52 am

Bayou Brave

February 18th, 2012
11:16 am

To those of you that live out of the Braves market and purchased mlb.tv last year,

1. Are you getting it again this year?
A. Yes, have for last 8-9 years or so.

2. Can I play it through my BluRay player on my TV?
A. Sorry still on an old school projection big screen.

3. Can I play it on my iphone and/or ipad?
A. Check out Directv.youknow, they should be able to tell you on the web site.

Hope some helps.
TIA

jim

February 18th, 2012
11:55 am

Not to give Freddi slack for over using the back end of his pen, but that 9-0 Mets game was a lot closer in the 8th inning when JV entered. It was a 1 or 2 run deficit before Venters gave up additional runs and the Mets piled on after he left.

John Adcox

February 18th, 2012
11:56 am

Maybe they should check to see if it’s under the name “Sue.” (A little Man in Black humor for your Saturday afternoon entertainment).

http://www.gocomics.com/strangebrew/?utm_source=GoComics&utm_medium=free_email&utm_campaign=user_comic

honeybee

February 18th, 2012
12:05 pm

I am back everyone

Tomahawkin

February 18th, 2012
12:09 pm

@BravePack

” I think the bullpen arms this year will contribute to that happening this year. No more Linestink out there, Proctor, etc”

I’m Drinking The Kool Aid Here by saying that both Linebrink and The Procologist weren’t that bad…Problem is that they had too pitch in wayy too many close games (Overexposed if you wanna call it that?) as a result of a Shytty offense, Bobby-Lite’s Abuse of O-Ventbrel, and Missing Both Little Big Man MEDS and Petey-Pablo

I don’t think anyone on here would’ve predicted that The Proctologist and Linebrink would get that much action a year ago…

richbrave

February 18th, 2012
12:10 pm

honeybee
February 18th, 2012
12:05 pm

I am back everyone

We are pleased? Heh! Good!

Ray

February 18th, 2012
12:10 pm

I am a firm believer that the Braves would not be giving the kid a chance at ss if he hadn’t shown them something. They have too much riding on just an economic move. Arm wise he is not going to make anyone forget furcal or yunel. And I do not think his arm is going to be compared to D Eckstein either. I do believe he will be solid with good range.

Tomahawkin

February 18th, 2012
12:15 pm

@Bravepack

“The thing I am most excited about with this years team is the redemption factor I think the clubhouse will have after the collapse last year. I truely believe this team will be playing with a chip on it’s shoulder ”

They Have to prove that Point to the fans on the field otherwise we will be talking UGA football on here on Aug 15th…So far over the last 6 years, the Braves Lay down like a 20 year old Sorostitute in Late Season Games against the Phillies…

They Did the same thing last year and Got Clowned in Philly with a Result of the Phillies Fans Mocking the Chop…That was Flat out Embarassing! I can’t Believe Bobby Lite and his Boys went out like that…

From a SEC’s Fans Perspective: Thats Flat Out Unacceptable!

honeybee

February 18th, 2012
12:17 pm

@BravePack If you are serious about an autograph? I,ll see what I can do.

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:30 pm

richbrave, February 18th, 2012, 11:40 am … “And if he [Fish] has no place on the 25-man ultimately, what’s the cost? $25,000 “

I wonder how many 1/2 price hotdogs the Braves have to sell before they break even on that investment.

abeeewright

February 18th, 2012
12:33 pm

PiersonBrave, February 18th, 2012, 11:48 am … “Would have thought that with todays tech that [superimposing video frames] would have been common.”

I hear Larry Parrish had just about figured out how to get the clock to stop blinking. Video super-position was next on his list of things to do.

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