This time, Venters and Kimbrel will ease into spring

A year ago, Jonny Venters and Craig Kimbrel were already game-sharp when spring training began. The Braves’ flame-throwing young relief duo had put in bullpen sessions even before the team’s early pitching camp last February, so eager were they to get to spring training and show their stuff to everyone including the new manager.

Venters and Kimbrel blew threw last spring training with fastballs blazing. They plan to pace themselves a little better this spring. (Jason Getz photo/AJC)

Venters and Kimbrel blew threw last spring training with fastballs blazing. They plan to pace themselves a little better this spring. (Jason Getz photo/AJC)

They did, too. At 2011 spring training, no major league reliever had more appearances (13) or strikeouts (15) than Kimbrel. As for Venters, the lefty with the 95-mph sinkers appeared in midseason form from the outset of camp, then reeled off whopping 51 appearances (in 92 team games) before the All-Star break

Venters and Kimbrel went on to be the most durable and overpowering relief duo in the majors for almost the entire season.

Almost.

Like most of the Braves hitters and plenty of their pitchers, they struggled in September. Perhaps no Braves’ struggles were as glaring as those of Kimbrel and Venters, for the obvious reason that they — along with reliever Eric O’Flaherty — had been the team’s best and most consistent strength to that point.

Kimbrel had a 7.36 ERA, .259 opponents’ average, seven walks and three blown saves in eight appearances after Sept. 8. This after he’d converted 25 consecutive saves and pitched 37-2/3 scoreless innings in his previous 38 appearances, with a .112 opponents’ average and 11 walks.

Venters allowed two runs, two hits and a walk in the eighth inning of the 9-0 loss to the Mets on Aug. 26, the day the Braves’ 10-20 finishing flameout began. That outing for Venters ended a string of 24 scoreless appearances in which he had a .107 opponents’ average with eight hits allowed in 22-2/3 innings.

He had a 5.64 ERA and .278 opponents’ average in his final 15 appearances, allowing nine earned runs — as many as earned as he allowed in his previous 70 appearances.

Kimbrel had a staggering 127 strikeouts in 77 innings during the  season, while no other major league reliever had as many as 105 strikeouts. And you probably know the only major league pitcher who worked more games than Kimbrel’s 79, right? Venters, with 85.

At the All-Star break, Venters was on place for 90 appearances and Kimbrel for 83. Manager Fredi Gonzalez and pitching coach Roger McDowell decided at the break to make sure their bullpen horses got a bit more rest in the second half.

It’s easy to suggest their first-half workload is what caused Kimbrel and Venters to struggle down the stretch, when they appeared to be operating on fumes some nights — even if both insist they felt strong through September and say their workloads weren’t contributing factors. (If you know them, you realize neither would say anything but that, given that they aren’t the sort to complain or ever make excuses.)

But it’s also clear that Venters and Kimbrel are learning something about pace and preparation. They realize there is a purpose to spring training, and that is solely to prepare for the season (unless you’re competing against others to win a job in camp).

This year Venters and Kimbrel won’t enter spring training in midseason form, by design. Both spent the offseason doing more strength and conditioning, and less throwing.

“I definitely slowed it down, started throwing a little later,” Venters said of his offseason throwing program. “Last year I came into camp guns blazing, ready to go 100 percent. This year I’m going to use spring training as more of a tool for trying to get ready for the season, as opposed to … really two years ago I was trying to make the team, and last year there was a new manager and it was my second year in the big leagues.”

No major league relief pitcher had more appearances or strikeouts last spring training than Kimbrel, who then led all relievers by a wide margin with 127 strikeouts during the season.

No major league relief pitcher had more appearances or strikeouts last spring training than Kimbrel, who then led all relievers by a wide margin with 127 strikeouts during the season.

That meant in each of the previous two spring trainings, Kimbrel was trying to impress from Day 1, to get noticed by team decision-makers.

“Yeah, I wanted to be ready, you know?” he said. “This year’s there’s a little different feel. I want to use it as a preparation tool as opposed to going out there ready to go.”

Kimbrel said he spent less time on the mound this winter and more time resting and working to get stronger — in addition to becoming engaged, attending Peter Moylan’s wedding in Hawaii, and spending plenty of time in deer stands.

“Yeah, I definitely started to throw a little later, because I understand there’s no reason for me to have myself ready to go right now,” Kimbrel said two weeks ago at the team’s early pitching camp. “As long as I’m good to go with two weeks left before the season starts, that’s good enough. You don’t have to be 100 percent ready to go at the very start of spring training.

“I still want to go out there and be successful [at spring training], but at the same time I don’t want to go out there and throw 10-11 innings [in Grapefruit League games] at 100 percent when I don’t have to.”

Kimbrel’s 15 strikeouts last spring training came in 12-1/3 innings in Grapefruit League play.

Venters spent much of his winter working out in the north Atlanta suburbs with personal trainer Ryan Goldin and a group of Braves that usually included some or all from Brian McCann, Freddie Freeman, Kris Medlen and Brandon Hicks, along with ex-Brave Mark DeRosa.

Venters looks like he’s filled out all over, with more muscle in his legs and upper body. He’s up to about 215 pounds.

Venters made the All-Star team and had a whopping 51 appearances in 92 games before the break in 2011. He was dominant until he faded during the Braves' September slide.

Venters made the All-Star team and had a whopping 51 appearances in 92 games before the break in 2011. He was dominant until he faded during the Braves' September slide.

“I gained about seven pounds, nothing crazy,” he said. “I worked out hard, probably the best offseason I’ve ever had really. Stretch my arm out a couple times a week, strengthen my shoulder, trainer 4-5 times a week….

“You figure out what you’ve got to do to go out there and be successful and feel good. Everybody’s kind of got their own routines, and it’s definitely still a learning thing for me, trying to figure out what I need to do.

“I obviously wasn’t very good down the stretch last year, so try to just ease into it more and hopefully that will help me more later on in the year.”

The workouts were different than what Venters had done in previous winters.

“We went through a really functional workout — some explosion stuff, some cardio stuff, a really good mix,” he said. “In years past I’d go to the gym and lift weights, maybe run on the treadmill a little bit. And I felt like I was kind of getting unathletic. This year I did some athletic stuff, did some agility stuff, and just kind of feel more athletic again.”

Kimbrel said he spent part of his offseason with his fiancée doing wedding planning – looking at churches, rehearsal spaces and reception halls. The wedding won’t be until December — weeks after the World Series that Kimbrel hopes the Braves are in.

He said the rest and relaxation recharged his batteries and had him eager to get back on the mound once the early pitching camp and spring training neared.

“This is what I love to do,” he said. “I’ve been working out and just sitting back for a while. Kind of ready to go now.”

When asked (again) if he felt fatigued in September, Kimbrel said, “No. I was still throwing hard…. It’s part of the game. They’re big league hitters and they hit the ball. I got myself in some trouble putting guys on, but I wasn’t fatigued. I still felt great. It’s just one of those things that happened.”

Venters said one of his main goals is to throw more strikes and not get behind in counts against as many hitters as he did in 2011. Kimbrel agreed that’s an area where he, too, could stand to improve and that it could help keep him fresh.

“That does add up,” Kimbrel said. “Another thing I’m going to work on too is, there were times when I warmed up too early in the game and I might have thrown too much [before entering games]. I just need to work on, if I throw two, three, four pitches, I’m good to go. I don’t need to let my emotions get to me [while warming up] in the bullpen, and have us score four runs and I’m sitting back down. That counts as a game. I didn’t get in the game, but I threw.”

Venters is excited about having O’Flaherty and Kimbrel back, complemented by the return of versatile Medlen (who’s scheduled to pitch in relief, though he could switch to starting if needed) and  Moylan once he’s recovered from shoulder surgery.

Elite prospect Arodys Vizcaino is also penciled in for bullpen duty, and reliever Jairo Asencio is coming off an MVP performance for the Dominican team in the Caribbean Series.

“Vizcaino got some experience, [Anthony] Varvaro’s good, Asencio … the bullpen’s deep,” Venters said. “And everybody can throw in any situation.”

Gonzalez also mentioned two weeks ago that either of the top starting pitching prospects, Julio Teheran or Randall Delgado, could begin the season in the bullpen.

Manger Fredi Gonzalez said Teheran (above) or Delgado could begin the season in the bullpen.

Manger Fredi Gonzalez said Teheran (above) or Delgado could begin the season in the bullpen.

Of that possibility, Kimbrel said, “It’s just going to make our pitching staff even better.”

Teheran and Delgado figured to compete with Mike Minor for the fifth-starter spot. But with Tim Hudson recovering from back surgery and possibly missing several weeks or more at the beginning of the season, two of those three young pitchers could end up in the Opening Day rotation.

♣ McCann’s contract: Speaking of McCann, the 27-year-old six-time All-Star is entering the final season of his contract and is scheduled to make $11.5 million in 2012. The Braves also hold a $12 million option for 2013 with a $500,000 buyout.

No extension talks have begun, and it’s possible the Braves would wait until next offseason to initiate any discussions. We’ll assume they will make an offer to the hometown star, who would draw a ton of interest if he ever hit the open market.

McCann, 27, said he’s not thinking about any of that.

“I’m going to go out and play baseball and see what happens,” he said. “I prepare every offseason like I do. Hopefully we have a productive season and go from there.”

Asked if it would be important to him to get an offer before the 2013 season, McCann, “I’m just going to play baseball. That’s all I care about. Anything else, I’m not too worried about.”

He’s represented by B.B. Abbott, who also is Chipper Jones’ longtime agent.

♣ Condolences, prayers, best wishes: Sad moment Thursday when news broke that Gary Carter had died after a battle with brain cancer. I got to know the former Expos and Mets catcher when he was a Marlins broadcaster, and he was as nice and decent a man as you could ever meet. Hall of Famer in more ways than one….

Gary Carter died from brain cancer on Thursday. The Hall of Fame catcher was 57.

Gary Carter died from brain cancer on Thursday. The Hall of Fame catcher was 57.

Meanwhile, it was good to hear that another HOFer, Padres icon Tony Gwynn, was recovering Thursday from successful cancer surgery. The amiable hitting machine expected to be back in uniform coaching his San Diego State ballclub before long. Click this link to read about his condition.

OK, it’s time to finish getting ready for Florida. Pitchers and catchers report to Dark Star on Sunday, first official workout Monday, and of course your Crusading Everyman will be there to chronicle events as they unfold.

Let’s close this with an all-time tune, Elvis Costello’s cover of a Nick Lowe-penned classic. (Oh man, memories — during college we wore out at least one vinyl copy of the Armed Forces album this was on.) Hear and see the video by clicking here.

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“(WHAT’S SO FUNNY ‘BOUT) PEACE, LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING”

by Nick Lowe

As I walk through
This wicked world
Searchin’ for light in the darkness of insanity.

I ask myself
Is all hope lost?
Is there only pain and hatred, and misery?

And each time i feel like this inside,
There’s one thing i wanna know:
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding?

And as I walk on
Through troubled times
My spirit gets so downhearted sometimes
So where are the strong?
And who are the trusted?
And where is the harmony?
Sweet harmony.

’cause each time I feel it slippin’ away, just makes me wanna cry.
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding?

So where are the strong?
And who are the trusted?
And where is the harmony?
Sweet harmony.

’cause each time i feel it slippin’ away, just makes me wanna cry.
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding?

– by David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog

1,830 comments Add your comment

Disco Stew

February 16th, 2012
10:18 pm

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
10:25 pm

I love the focus on my favorite area of the game…

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
10:26 pm

Is everyone else waiting for the official DOB announcement?

RHR

February 16th, 2012
10:28 pm

‘Bout time to saddle up, DOB.

RHR

February 16th, 2012
10:29 pm

I had not heard about Gary Carter’s passing. Sad news indeed.

Hi and bye cab – got eleventy things to do before morning, the least of which is sleep.

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
10:29 pm

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
10:29 pm

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
10:30 pm

i”m first through 8 posts…

grits

February 16th, 2012
10:30 pm

I’m ready for some baseball.

flange1

February 16th, 2012
10:31 pm

Great Song!

Thanks for the new blog DOB!

NM BRAVO

February 16th, 2012
10:31 pm

Thanks for the new blog DOB. COME ON SPRING TRAINING!

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
10:33 pm

Hi RHR! Bye RHR! :D

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
10:35 pm

man she is a hit it and quit it expert ain’t she…

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
10:46 pm

is nobody on either blog?

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
10:47 pm

I’m on both…DOB has made it official so folks will start matriculating over here now :)

ncgary

February 16th, 2012
10:52 pm

what if they don;t know how to matriculate, can they just come on over?

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
10:57 pm

nope. Sorry. You have to stay on the old blog

ncgary

February 16th, 2012
10:58 pm

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
10:58 pm

Maybe we can make an exception or two… ;)

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
10:59 pm

I have Britney Spears stuck in my head

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
11:00 pm

lol well I’ve been on FB and twitter

Mitchell

February 16th, 2012
11:00 pm

Is anybody watching MLB Network and the 50 Greatest Finishes in MLB History countdown?

I mean, for God’s sake. There just showed literally three out of four clips in a row that involved the Braves.

How can you make the playoffs fifteen times in twenty years and have so many teams, mostly inferior, not only beat you but beat you in ways that are constantly being relived and replayed along with the greatest moments in post-season history?

I don’t have enough fingers to count the number of times the Braves are featured.

Literally.

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
11:01 pm

cab…what song

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
11:02 pm

you don’t have 3 fingers?

you type pretty well for only 3 fingers…

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:02 pm

If You Seek Amy…I honestly have no idea why, other than I think it’s DOB’s fault…

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:04 pm

Looks like my post about Belladonna, arsenic, and hemlock well and truly killed the previous blog.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

February 16th, 2012
11:05 pm

mlbtraderumors.com has both Cristhian Martinez and Jairo Asencio listed as being out of options.

Asencio looks likely to make the bullpen, while Martinez is on the bubble.

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:05 pm

I hear Amy has left the building.

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:08 pm

abeeewright-

You know the song? the lyrics are deliciously awesome :)

Soph

February 16th, 2012
11:09 pm

And kaboom goes NC State.

wayn-o

February 16th, 2012
11:10 pm

Vizcaino, Varvaro, Venters.

Soph

February 16th, 2012
11:11 pm

Love me, hate me, say what you want about me but all the boys and all the girls…

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:12 pm

ncgary

February 16th, 2012
11:12 pm

looks like the dookies are gonna win it

Soph

February 16th, 2012
11:13 pm

Too many Plumlees.

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:13 pm

cabravesfan, February 16th, 2012, 11:08 pm … You know the song? the lyrics are deliciously awesome1

I’ve prolly heard it once or twice. Brit isn’t really my cup of tea.

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
11:14 pm

dunno if i know that one

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:14 pm

abeeewright-

generally not mine either, but those particular lyrics always make me giggle (also, the fact that she had to change said lyrics in a lot of places to If You See Amy…)

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:15 pm

tiger-

say the name out loud and you will understand why it’s secretly awesome

Soph

February 16th, 2012
11:15 pm

Must they show last week’s debacle everytime I watch a basketball game?

Soph

February 16th, 2012
11:16 pm

Say each word slow too.

Mitchell

February 16th, 2012
11:16 pm

They apparently didn’t have room for Ed Sprague, Candy Maldonado, Dave Winfield, Scott Leius, Lenny Dykstra, Aubrey Huff, Buster Posey, etc.

The list goes on.

Not to mention Jim Leyritz. But then again that wasn’t technically a “finish”.

Or was it?

It’s amazing to think in all the post-season games the Braves have played, they have just one walk-off game winning home run at home.

One time.

That’s it, I’m done. It’s too much.

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:19 pm

cabravesfan, February 16th, 2012, 11:14 pm … ” that she had to change said lyrics in a lot of places to If You See Amy…)”

Kind of like when they dub movies for television and the evil crime genius shouts at the hero, “Forget You!”

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:19 pm

And then listen to the song, because the verses have NOTHING to do with the chorus… :)

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:19 pm

abeeewright-

Something like that :D

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
11:19 pm

I get it…are we 12 again?

Soph

February 16th, 2012
11:20 pm

Geebus, this has been the longest half of basketball I’ve ever seen.

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:20 pm

tiger-

again? What makes you think we ever STOPPED being secretly 12?

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:22 pm

My twelve year old moment comes from Animal House. At the trial for Delta House when the Delts explosively cough expletives. Never gets old.

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:27 pm

F stands for “For” a preposition at the fore. U’s for “Unlawful” mark an A on her door.
C stands for “Carnal” passion steals away good sense, K stands for “Knowledge” to mock your pretense.

AussieBrave

February 16th, 2012
11:31 pm

Nothing baseball related to say really – am excited, ready for season to start and hoping Braves surprise and delight.

Tis Friday – weekend upon me, and am ready to enjoy a couple of work-less sunny days!. Hopefully I will log in over the weekend and see that the Braves have added an established contact hitting left-fielder.

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:34 pm

How many days til pitchers and catchers report? Next Monday?

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:38 pm

Technically they report on Sunday- first workout is Monday

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:39 pm

“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”

I’m not sure if Nietzsche could imagine an empty blog waiting for someone to post.

Empty Blog

February 16th, 2012
11:43 pm

Come on. Post. You know you want to. Just one little post.

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:45 pm

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:46 pm

tiger297

February 16th, 2012
11:47 pm

when its sleepy time down south…

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:47 pm

night tiger!

Empty Blog

February 16th, 2012
11:48 pm


What do they want from me?
What do they want from me?
What do they want from a poor boy who can’t believe?
They want to fill the void.
They want to fill the empty spaces.
But I won’t let them consume me with the rest of the lifeless faces.”

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:52 pm

So I guess we’ll start to get an idea about Huddy’s progress, Hanson’s delivery, JJ’s orthotic, and how many burgers BMac scarfed come Monday.

BraveDan

February 16th, 2012
11:54 pm

I am so ready for the games to begin.

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:54 pm

Mac’s been busting his behind all off season with his trainer. He’ll be just fine

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:55 pm

And if I remember correct, JJ’s got a new knee brace, not an orthotic ;)

Rafael

February 16th, 2012
11:56 pm

All this “hope” and “optimism” is great for the 2012 edition of our beloved Braves.

Lost in this good news is the fact the Liberty CHEAPIA still owns the team.

Their answer to boosting attendance is by lowering the price of Turner Dogs. The REAL way to increase attendance is by putting a WINNING product on the field, NOT by lowering the cost of food and drink.

With Liberty CHEAPIA at the helm, we are reduced to NO offseason upgrades and having “AFFORDABLE” players (I told you the letter sent to Braves season-ticket holders was a BLATANT LIE after the Brave’s playoff collaspe).

Frank Wren (firefrankwren.com) continues to say Teheran, Delgado, and Vizcaino are untouchable. That’s great; however, the TRUTH is he KNOWS there is NO WAY he can sign Tommy Hanson and Jair to contracts when they hit free agency. Same old Brave’s way of letting players walk for NOTHING (Michael Bourn will be our next example). Maybe they can put “afforable” Matt Diaz in CF next year.

Other teams have offered the Braves good MLB starting OFs (not bums like Diaz) for each of those three young prospect pitchers. Instead of improving the team, Wren and Liberty CHEAPIA are simply keeping them because the Braves NEVER enter the star Free-Agent marker.

Speaking of our STARTING LF Matt Diaz (you think I’m kidding…. it’s true), it’s great we have a total no-talent BUM like Matty starting in our OF. Diaz could NOT make any other MLB roster. Diaz is “affordable” though, the KEY for Liberty CHEAPIA.

Matt Diaz is the guy who (and I QUOTE the AJC) “managed to key her sense of humor despite the Brave’s playoff COLLASPE.” Real funny stuff Matt (”he rakes Lefthanders you know”). This is guy who has NO VALUE ADD to this team… but to Wren he is “AFFORDABLE.” Doesn’t matter if he hits in double plays consistently and is a CLANK with the glove. Sorry state of affairs when your team is SOOO CHEAP instead of upgrading the team they lower the price of hot dogs.

With all “the hope springs eternal” and optism entering 2012, the FACT is Wren and Liberty CHEAPIA did NOTHING to upgrade the team like the lying “letter to the fans” promised.

Wren is banking on the fact that his current players had “off years” last year. The FACT is Mr. Wren that Matt DIAZ is a TOTAL no-talent BUM. Yes Frank, he is “AFFORDABLE.”

Until the out-of-state, faceless, gutless, CHEAP Liberty Media owners sell the team to someone who WANTS to win, our beloved Braves are doomed to mediocre EVERY year. Liberty CHEAPIA won’t be happy until they turn our storied franchise into the Houston Astros EAST. Sure, when our Braves hit rock bottom (it will eventually happen with our current ownership group), that’s when they’ll sell the team to maximize their profits. Thanks Liberty CHEAPIA.

Enjoy the 33% off Turner Dogs.

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:57 pm

We all know McCann is fleet of foot. He’s got two triples after all.

Venice Jim

February 16th, 2012
11:57 pm

ncgary
February 16th, 2012
9:59 pm

how bout that wolfpack . up by 16 against the dookies at half time

Sorry – I copied that on the last blog, but I see you recognized how it turned out – pretend I did not notice…

cabravesfan

February 16th, 2012
11:58 pm

Actually, Matt Diaz is NOT our starting left fielder. Some guy named Prado is.

abeeewright

February 16th, 2012
11:58 pm

And he led the team in stolen bases through April last year.

TennBravesFan

February 16th, 2012
11:59 pm

I know the consensus is that Constanza or Durango will get the 5th bench spot, but I tend to think that Drew Sutton will be the favorite for that spot. He switch hits, plays 1st, 2nd, SS, 3rd, RF, & LF. I just think he brings a lot to the table as a bench player and provides a lot of options. Plus in over 600 abs his career On base percentage in AAA is .380. Heyward can play center in a pinch and if Bourne gets injured (god forbid) a roster move can be made.

Venice Jim

February 16th, 2012
11:59 pm

Very honored that Philly Fred, a blogger of immeasurable scruples and moral integrity, saw fit to recognize me as someone who realizes that he is truly someone worthy of defending the marvelous team from the City of Brotherly Love…

abeeewright

February 17th, 2012
12:01 am

cabravesfan, February 16th, 2012, 11:55 pm … “And if I remember correct, JJ’s got a new knee brace, not an orthotic”

He had a knee brace at the end of last year. However, they discovered a problem with his big toe. So, the “orthotic” could be a knee brace or a shoe. Haven’t heard which one yet.

Venice Jim

February 17th, 2012
12:02 am

Matt Diaz is the guy who (and I QUOTE the AJC) “managed to key her sense of humor despite the Brave’s playoff COLLASPE.”

I would like to see where the AJC referred to Matt as “her” and misspelled collapse and Brave’s…

cabravesfan

February 17th, 2012
12:02 am

abeeewright-

Maybe it’s a “me” thing- I don’t consider a knee brace an orthotic. I use them in my shoes, so that is the only thing that is a real “orthotic” to me… :)

abeeewright

February 17th, 2012
12:06 am

Here’s the quote from the article (complete with typo … street = stress.


Jurrjens is especially excited for a fresh start. He went just 1-3 after being selected for his first All-Star Game and was mentioned prominently in trade talks over the winter. But he’s still in Atlanta, eager to get in full season now that doctors have discovered the underlying cause of his lingering knee problems – a shorter-than-normal joint in his right big toe, which caused his ankle to turn outward and put more street on the knee.

After being fitted with orthotics, the pain was gone in a couple of weeks.

“I feel like I’m a brand new kid,” said Jurrjens, who just turned 26 this past weekend. “I’m happy I’m here and I’ll be trying to help the team as much as I can.”

uga-brave

February 17th, 2012
12:06 am

how about the best college basketball coach K leading that charge and win. really.

down 20 in the second half.

Venice Jim

February 17th, 2012
12:08 am

uga – “It’s a really special win, a special win. It’s tough to say anything else.” – Coach K on tonight’s win over NC State

cabravesfan

February 17th, 2012
12:08 am

abeeewright-

that is definitely shoe inserts. I have a similar problem (not the big toe, but a misaligned ankle that causes knee pain in the opposite leg- along with a misaligned patellar tendon on the same bad knee) they are a tremendous help

abeeewright

February 17th, 2012
12:08 am

cab … I’m with you on orthotics meaning a shoe fitting. However, I looked it up just to be sure and discovered it could mean any orthopedic support, including a back brace or a knee brace. But, here, I’m pretty sure the author meant shoe-fitting.

AussieBrave

February 17th, 2012
12:09 am

Venice Jim

“I would like to see where the AJC referred to Matt as “her” and misspelled collapse and Brave’s…”

LOL

abeeewright

February 17th, 2012
12:11 am

cab … flat feet for me. It’s amazing how much impact shoes can have on your entire well-being.

Then again, those feet have to carry the whole load, so a little misalignment in the feet can have a multiplying effect up the line.

nolie

February 17th, 2012
12:12 am

I thought I read that they gave him a knee brace, which is also onea them orthodoodaddies

abeeewright

February 17th, 2012
12:13 am

You could prolly start a whole philosophy centered on the effective application of foot-wear.

I mean, if phrenologists study how the bumps on your head predict your future and astrologists study how the alignment of the stars predicts your future, it’s not that unreasonable to assume that how your knees turn in or turn out predicts your future.

cabravesfan

February 17th, 2012
12:14 am

abeeewright-

No kidding- everything from knee to hip to back and neck problems, all because you you have bad feet. orthotics can be such a huge relief…I need to wear mine more- I rarely wear my tennis shoes

abeeewright

February 17th, 2012
12:15 am

They should just give JJ a full-on exoskeleton, like Ripley had in Aliens.

nolie

February 17th, 2012
12:15 am

how your knees turn in or turn out predicts your future….ABW

knock-kneed gals have fewer babies?

uga-brave

February 17th, 2012
12:16 am

vj, i heard you missed the carolina comeback. please tell me you watched this.

unreal.

David O'Brien

February 17th, 2012
12:16 am

Jurrjens was fitted for the knee brace in the final weeks of last season, and pitched with it the day after the season ended when he started game in Florida instructional league. He would’ve started Game 3 of division series, wearing the brace.

He was fitted for orthotics — corrective inserts for his shoes — during the offseason, first time that problem was diagnosed with the toe.

According to Wren, Jurrjens will likely begin the season wearing the Knee brace when he pitches. It’s not as big and bulky as a linemen’s brace, and doesn’t hinder him. So unless the knee’s really feeling 100 percent without it, I’d imagine he’ll wear it at least early in the season.

cabravesfan

February 17th, 2012
12:17 am

uga-brave-

Game was not on TV out here. Caught the end on the computer

David O'Brien

February 17th, 2012
12:17 am

Matt Diaz is the guy who (and I QUOTE the AJC) “managed to key her sense of humor despite the Brave’s playoff COLLASPE.”

That’s quite a quote.

abeeewright

February 17th, 2012
12:17 am

knock-kneed gals have fewer babies?

I really set that one up on a tee for you, didn’t I?

Venice Jim

February 17th, 2012
12:20 am

uga – I had been “watching” the updates of the game on my phone while tutoring (for quite a while it did not require great attention), but got home to watch the last couple of minutes on ESPN3…

abeeewright

February 17th, 2012
12:20 am

cabravesfan, February 17th, 2012, 12:14 am … “I need to wear mine more- I rarely wear my tennis shoes”

I thought you only needed your fuzzy bunny slippers to make your strenuous morning commute.

cabravesfan

February 17th, 2012
12:22 am

abeeewright-

I do. Which is why my knee still hurts when I wear real shoes (that my orthotics don’t fit in). I only wear my tennis shoes with them to work out…

NO MORE WREN

February 17th, 2012
12:23 am

Jurrjens might be softer than Chipper.

cabravesfan

February 17th, 2012
12:23 am

And I don’t have bunny slippers. I do have an awesome pair of giant fuzzy red slippers that I can no longer wear in the presence of Nala because she sees them as a threat to us and attacks them.

Younger Than That Now

February 17th, 2012
12:25 am

Thanks for the blog DOB! Like most, I’m really hoping that FrediG has learned a lot about handling a bullpen, and especially the big 3! I think they are the best 7-8-9 inning trio in baseball and I hope they’re protected as such this season.

I’m ready to go and will be down to DS somewhere around the middle of March… just about a 4 hour drive for me.

Really sad for the family of Gary Carter… he was a true gentleman in every way and faced this battle like he faced every ‘on the field battle’… with courage and class. RIP Kid!

GO BRAVES!

uga-brave

February 17th, 2012
12:29 am

cab, you and me have this in common. no mushrooms on pizza. evil fungus.

Being There

February 17th, 2012
12:29 am

ABBAZ: … What you doin’ here, boy?

CHANCE: … I had to leave my garden. I want to find another.

ABBAZ: Bulls–t. Who sent you here, boy? Did that chickens–t a–hole Rafael send you here, boy?

CHANCE: No. Thomas Franklin told me that I had to leave the Old Man’s house, he’s dead now, you know…

ABBAZ: Dead, my a–! Now get this, honkie – you go tell Rafael that I ain’t takin’ no jive from no Western Union messenger! You tell that a–hole, if he got somethin’ to tell me to get his a– here himself! You got that, boy?

CHANCE: Yes. I understand. If I see Rafael I will tell him.

Braveone

February 17th, 2012
12:29 am

From the previous blog which had 2,342 comments, nolie led the way with 223 posts. There were 178 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:

Rank Poster Frequency

1 nolie 223
2 cabravesfan 138
3 Tom O’Hawke 108
4 McFann O O o 98
5 Tomahawkin 90
6 Venice Jim 89
7 jeffrey d 82
8 Ward 80
9 tiger297 73
10 Murph 66
11 Ray 64
12 kenhotlanta 55
13 ncscoots 54
14 TennesseePaul 53
15 Soph 50
16 David O’Brien 49
17 ChattTownBrian (CTB) 47
18 VaBravesFan 47
19 ncgary 47
20 Lew 40
21 N8 36
22 abeeewright 36
23 MIBravesFan 33
24 Roman Gal 30
25 DAP 25

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