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Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:35 pm

My freshman year we had two roommates on my hall – Michael Hay and Richard Moon – forever known as Mike Hay while the sun shines and Dick Moon before he d#*@s you…

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:36 pm

Good grief – top the page with that…

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:37 pm

It covers about 45 years, but definitely not just hit singles – fairly free form (Beast of Burden now)…

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:38 pm

Beautiful Day…

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:39 pm

Monopolization for me on page 13…

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:39 pm

Tom O'Hawke

February 13th, 2012
11:41 pm

One of my father’s golfing buddies was a teacher named, Bob Hiran.

They used to hit him with that Beach Boys’ song, Barbara Ann.

A Bob, Bob, Bob…..Bob, Bob Hiran

Tom O'Hawke

February 13th, 2012
11:47 pm

Let’s see… what’s coming up next? Or soon? Or at all?

Black Water — Doobie Bros.

cabravesfan

February 13th, 2012
11:47 pm

Love the Beach Boys. Grew up listening to them- the epitome of a Southern California band :)

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:49 pm

Let’s see… what’s coming up next? Or soon? Or at all?

This is what I’ll be doing for the next week…

Tom O'Hawke

February 13th, 2012
11:50 pm

Pete Van Weiren (sp?) was a big Beach Boys fan. Pete used to play in a rock band.

Tom O'Hawke

February 13th, 2012
11:51 pm

It’s not the worst way to spend a week, buddy. ;)

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:52 pm

Because…the world is round…

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:54 pm

I tend to focus on waiting for Bruce’s next song…makes it helpful if they don’t get to the Born songs in the middle of the night…

Tom O'Hawke

February 13th, 2012
11:54 pm

At least you can hear the ACTUAL songs. All I can do is read your post with the title. :sad:

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2012
11:55 pm

Speaking of which…Because the NIght… Patti Smith, not Bruce, but, still…

nolie

February 13th, 2012
11:55 pm

In May of 1941 the war had just begun
The Germans had the biggest ship that had the biggest guns
The Bismarck was the fastest ship that ever sailed the sea
On her decks were guns as big as steers and shells as big as trees

Out of the cold and foggy night came the British ship the Hood
And every British seaman he knew and understood
They had to sink the Bismarck the terror of the sea
Stop those guns as big as steers and those shells as big as trees
We’ll find the German battleship that’s makin’ such a fuss
We gotta sink the Bismarck cause the world depends on us
Yeah hit the decks a runnin’ boys and spin those guns around
When we find the Bismarck we gotta cut her down

The Hood found the Bismarck and on that fatal day
The Bismarck started firing from fifteen miles away
We gotta sink the Bismarck was the battle sound
But when the smoke and fog had cleared away the mighty Hood went down
For six long days and weary nights they tried to find her trail
Churchill told the people put every ship asail
Cause somewhere on that ocean I know she’s gotta be
We gotta sink the Bismarck to the bottom of the sea
We’ll find the German battleship…

The fog was gone the seventh day and they saw the morning sun
Ten hours away from homeland the Bismarck made its run
The Admiral of the British fleet said turn those bows around
We found that German battleship and we’re gonna cut her down
The British guns were aimed and the shells were coming fast
The first shell hit the Bismarck they knew she couldn’t last
That mighty German battleship is just a memory
Sink the Bismarck was the battle cry that shook the seven seas
We found the German battleship t’was makin’ such a fuss
We had to sink the Bismarck cause the world depends on us
We hit the deck a runnin’ and we spun those guns around
Yeah we found the mighty Bismarck and then we cut her down

nolie

February 13th, 2012
11:58 pm

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:00 am

I didn’t expect to be spending time, tonight, trying to think of songs that started with a “B”.
But, hey, life is full of the unexpected!

“Best of My Love”, by the Eagles.

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:01 am

Thanks, nolie, I wanted to check that out. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that before, but I couldn’t come up with a melody.

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:02 am

Big Bad John

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:03 am

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:03 am

Johnny Horton – didn’t he also do “The Battle of New Orleans”? Or am I thinking of the wrong guy?

cabravesfan

February 14th, 2012
12:04 am

Tom-

They do have a website…I can’t remember what station it is, but VJ will obviously know

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:05 am

Good timing, noles!

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:06 am

Thanks, but no thanks, cabravesfan. I plan on getting SOME sleep tonight. ;)

cabravesfan

February 14th, 2012
12:08 am

Tom-

Who said you had to listen to it tonight? It’s not going anywhere

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:08 am

You too can play along at home…

http://thesoundla.com/

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:08 am

Great minds Tom, great minds…..

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:10 am

My dad would march around the house to the recently posted Johnny Horton song (the ship one), carrying my less than a year old sister and my brother and I (4 and 5) would march along behind…

kenhotlanta

February 14th, 2012
12:11 am

Why isn’t Heart in the R&R Hall of Fame? How many badass female guitar players are there besides Joan Jett (she’s in it), Lita Ford, and maybe Suzie Quatro (she had the look, not sure about the chops). Plus Nancy is a great singer, together they are a great band, and their first album, Dreamboat Annie is a classic.

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:12 am

I wasn’t aware that Heart isn’t in it ken. I agree totally

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:13 am

I see they played Because by the Beatles. I really liked that song. It was done acapalla (that’s an Italian word, nolie).

kenhotlanta

February 14th, 2012
12:13 am

Ditto the Doobie Brothers and Deep Purple.

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:15 am

Why isn’t Heart in the R&R Hall of Fame? — kenhotlanta

Or Deep Purple, Chicago, Steve Miller, Moody Blues etc.

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:15 am

acapalla? ain’t that what Tommy injured that made him change his mechanicalizations?

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:15 am

a cappella…

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:16 am

Is Thin Lizzie in it?

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:16 am

Speaking of Chicago – Beginnings…

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:17 am

Speaking of Chicago, my favorite song to play the drums to – “Beginnings”.

kenhotlanta

February 14th, 2012
12:18 am

Tom, The Battle of New Orleans was by Johnny Horton.

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:18 am

It’s all about the timing.

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:18 am

Quick – crank up the online stream…

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:19 am

no they ain’t. That sux

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:21 am

but The Blue Caps are in?

kenhotlanta

February 14th, 2012
12:21 am

nolie, I don’t understand why so many rap and hip hop artists are getting in the ROCK & ROLL HOF, when lots of Classic Rock bands and artists have to wait their turn.

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:23 am

Hair Band Bias, that’s what it is. No White Snake either :evil:

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:23 am

Or Deep Purple, Chicago, Steve Miller, Moody Blues etc.

I believe that there is a requirement for a modicum of talent (and capable lyric-writing), which is sadly missing from such legendary tracks as Jet Airliner & Take the Money and Run…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:24 am

Behind Blue Eyes…

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:25 am

yeah I would hafta pass on Mr Miller myself, though a friend of mine built a ‘puter for him a few years ago and said he’s a nice guy. is that enuff?

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:26 am

I would need to recheck the voting guidelines – I’m sure Shaun knows…

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:27 am

perhaps my favorite WHO song. not really a huge fan of theirs. probably some personal deficiency I guess

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:29 am

I’ve always enjoyed Deep Purple’s song…

..though not as much as what lead singer Ian Gillan did as the lead role in a certain rock opera…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:30 am

I am still rather fond of Tommy – one of my first 2 8-tracks…

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:32 am

I know a guy whose favorite singer is Jethro Tull……..

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:33 am

well sure you are, you luv musicals……..

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:34 am

Indeed…

Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:34 am

cab headed to the bedroom – turned on the Westminster Dog Show – Nala is perched at the end of the bed watching intently…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:35 am

Bell Bottom Blues…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:37 am

Just saw this retweeted (I do not follow Dwyane Wade)…

DwyaneWade
Happy valentine day 2 Gods greatest creations–a Woman. 2 all the women in the world that dont have a valentine. Ill B U guys valentine. Luv

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:38 am

Looking forward to Smash #2…

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:38 am

My Verizon internet is really being a pain in the butt, tonight. I don’t know what it is about Mondays, but this is either the 3rd Monday night in a row, or 3 out of the last 4.

I like the station, VJ, I’ll listen to it for a little while longer. But I have to call it a night on here. I’m losing half of my posts (and I can’t afford that – I’m already losing)

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:39 am

Later, Thomas…

(I am almost gone)…

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:40 am

isn’t tweeting bad enuff without having to put up with retweets?

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:42 am

nite Tommy (in honour of Jim’s The Who preference)

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:43 am

next there will be repeats of retweets :(

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:43 am

next there will be repeats of retweets :(

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:43 am

next there will be repeats of retweets :(

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:44 am

I think I just caught Tom’s ‘puter trouble :(

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:45 am

kenhotlanta

February 14th, 2012
12:45 am

Do y’all ever stop and think that classic rock has lasted almost 50 years and much of it holds up as good today and when it was first released? Most musical eras of the 20th Century (Ragtime, Big Band and Swing, & vocal standards) lasted about 15 to 20 years each. Of those 3, Big Band still sounds really good, Ragtime sounds very dated, and vocal standards are hit and miss. I’m not counting Jazz, Gospel, Classical, Country, etc. as they are still ongoing and vital. I’m sure VJ, Moe, or Lew can put much better thoughts on this than I, but I think it’s an amazing thing that music created in 1964 sounds as fresh and good today as when it was new. I don’t think you can say that about The Archies, Right Said Fred, Milli Vanilli, Hooked on Classics, or the Kentucky Headhunters.

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:48 am

Bennie and the Jets…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:51 am

ken – I used to think in 1979 how 15 year old music at that point was not anywhere nearly as far different as 15 year old music was in 1964…

I am still a sucker for the classic 20th century pop songs – Frank and Bing and Dean, Cole Porter and Rodgers and Hart/Hammerstein,

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:54 am

My 15 year old actress/tutoree just got Sir Paul’s album of standards and loves it – I will have to check it out beyond what he sang last night…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:54 am

Best of My Love…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:55 am

Might be a sign that it’s time to head to bed pre V-Day…

Venice Jim

February 14th, 2012
12:56 am

Good night, good people…

Tom O'Hawke

February 14th, 2012
12:56 am

OK, I’ll try one more… NAILED ONE ;)

nolie

February 14th, 2012
12:56 am

I’m a big standards fan too, and Rag Time sounds good to me also.
on the other side heavily wah wah influenced rock like much Creme sounds real dated to me

kenhotlanta

February 14th, 2012
1:11 am

I love standards (can’t wait for Carrie Underwood to do an album of standards) and big band, and I agree, nolie, a lot of older classic rock sounds dated, but much of it does not. The Allman Brothers Band, The Marshall Tucker Band, Savoy Brown, Foghat, Mountain, The Who, Deep Purple, Procol Harum, and many others still sound on their old albums as fresh today as ever.

nolie

February 14th, 2012
1:19 am

yup, I agree ken. most of it is still meaningful to me, if fact more enjoyable that much of what has been produced in the last dozen years or so.JMO

kenhotlanta

February 14th, 2012
1:40 am

Goodnight, nolie, this time next week we’ll be knee deep in ST news, I hope. One of the best times of the year.

Steve

February 14th, 2012
1:43 am

DOB, I’m a life-long Braves fan transplanted in Florida. Since moving here, I’ve loved attending Spring Training games, even the workouts in February before the games begin in March. Several have congratulated you on the opening piece of this blog, but I, too, must let you know it is precisely what I enjoy about this time of year. Thanks for your updates, and yes, the AJC is truly blessed to have you writing for the Bravos! Keep it up, and here’s to a fantastic 2012 Campaign! Go Braves!!

Ward

February 14th, 2012
2:58 am

Hello everyone! thight I would drop in for a while. I enoyed the Grammy’s,and I really liked Ardeles’ singing,and Tony Bennet sounded good too.Sorry,but Foo Fighters don’t move me.Going to watch Smoking Aces 2 In a few minutes.

Ward

February 14th, 2012
2:58 am

Meant to say, thought I wouod drop in.

Ward

February 14th, 2012
3:00 am

Not much happening tonight. Saw “The Hurt Locker “,and enjoyed that movie. Great movie.

Ward

February 14th, 2012
3:04 am

The only Cd I liked from Van Halen was “For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge”,that was their best Album in my view.

Ward

February 14th, 2012
3:05 am

Haven’t listened to some of the new stuff in a long time,but the Grammy’s got me interested in the music again.

Ward

February 14th, 2012
3:12 am

All have a good one! Enjoy life,and enjoy yourself. Peace Out,and talk tomorrow.

Couch Tater

February 14th, 2012
6:07 am

If…

Michelangelo had read The Book, he would have numbered the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

…and would have died penniless and baroque.

ncgary

February 14th, 2012
6:42 am

nolie acapella thats what the germans were doing when the bismarc went down
pailing out buckets of h2o

Lew

February 14th, 2012
7:32 am

Couch Tater – The artist in me cringes over that one.

ncscoots

February 14th, 2012
8:09 am

as far as the #3 hitters OBP and what that means for the #4, ill let scoots get that, if he wants. it was his formula. im not sure what that has to do with the #3 hitter though.

Just for you, DAP. :-) Also, it gives me a chance to be pedantic, and who can pass up one of those?

First, it doesn’t really matter what the actual OBP of the players involved, in the case we were speaking of yesterday; I simply used a number that was intuitive to most folks. It’s the math that counts.

As far as the 4 hitter: remember that a baseball inning has what is known as a limiting event (three outs). A limiting event is one which, upon occurrence, reduces to zero the probability of all other events. So, for the 4 hitter in the first inning only, the probability that he hits with at least one runner on is the inverse of the probability that the first three batters make outs. That probability is:

1 – ((1-OBP1) * (1-OBP2) * (1-OBP3))

With our nominal .350 OBP for everybody, there is just under a 30% chance that everybody makes an out before the 4 hitter comes to the plate in the first inning.

Couch Tater

February 14th, 2012
8:10 am

Lew -

Michelangelo also sculpted Sleeping Cupid. He tried to pass it off as an antique, but it was discovered to be a fake. fake. fake.

“You seemed truly excited by the handius workus of Cupid’s arrow, Elaineus Benes.”

“er, uh.. Hungry, Mike?”

JRW

February 14th, 2012
8:12 am

Good article on Philly.com about the revenue teams are getting from local TV deals. It kind of shows how archaic the Braves deal is and how they may really be hurt by the lack of revenue that the other teams in Baseball are getting.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120214_Inside_the_Phillies__TV_rights_windfall_looms_in_Phillies_future.html

tiger297

February 14th, 2012
8:26 am

scoots – don’t you need to add the probability of one of the first 3 hitting a HR and clearing the bases and/or the other 2 making outs to really get to the odds of clear bases?

I know you didn’t state that is what your formula answered but it was the question wasn’t it?

ncscoots

February 14th, 2012
8:36 am

tiger, I had improper phrasing, I guess. All of this should have been “with at least one runner having reached base”, rather than “with a runner on”. For simplicity, I disregarded intervening events. Also, remember that the probabilities being spoken of exist only at the beginning of the scenario. That is, when the leadoff hitter steps into the box, what is the probability that one runner will have reached base when the 3 (or 4) hitter steps into the box, in the first inning?

As I read the thread, that was the sorta the premise under discussion. Though, with Shaun, sometimes one might be mistaken about such a thing. :-)

You’re right, though; each intervening event changes the probabilities of a succeeding event. But I’m pretty sure we could grind the blog to a halt with the math that goes with such a discussion, LOL.

tiger297

February 14th, 2012
8:42 am

yeah but it would be more fun (at least for me) that all the scrolling I have to do when 2-3 people start arguing with shaun

might be why I missed the point b/c I don’t read his stuff anymore…although when I see a bunch of people responding to him I will do a Shaun STHU post sometimes.

tiger297

February 14th, 2012
8:43 am

typically right b4 I shut the blog down…harder to scroll past when its being posted real time

ncscoots

February 14th, 2012
8:51 am

might be why I missed the point b/c I don’t read his stuff anymore

Simply put, Shaun believes that the 3 hitter should not be the player with best combination of OBP and slugging on the team, because The Book says so. One of the underpinnings of that belief is that “the 3 hitter comes up so often with nobody on and 2 out”. I was just attempting to show that probabilities tend to refute that, at least a little.

Had nothing to do with optimal lineups, or ZIPS, or much of anything else, other than that one specific point. Naturally, that made me an anti-intellectual saber-hating dinosaur geezer who could only make the conversation personal because I’m blind to the data, and so forth. :-)

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