Pastornicky, Simmons at forefront of ATL shortstop depth

The Braves have built so much minor league depth at shortstop that by last summer they were making decisions on how to better utilize that stable of  players, opting to move a couple of prospects to new positions.

Edward Salcedo, 20, a prized international free-agent signee two years ago, was moved from shortstop to third base at Class-A Rome, and 2010 first-round draft pick Matt Lipka switched from shortstop to center field last fall at the instructional league in Florida.

Lipka will play center field this year, likely at high-A Lynchburg. The Braves were pleased with how well he took to center field in the fall and believe his speed and athleticism are well suited for the position. He also worked extensively on his approach as a leadoff hitter during the instructional league.

Moving Salcedo and Lipka still left four shortstops whom the Braves consider promising in the minor league system: Tyler Pastornicky, who’s penciled in for the major league job in 2012, top prospect Andrelton Simmons, and defensively strong youngsters Nick Ahmed and Elmer Reyes.

Simmons, 22, is one of the highest-rated shortstop prospects in baseball and was judged the Braves’ No. 4 overall prospect by Baseball America after a 2011 season in which he hit .311 with a .351 on-base percentage at Lynchburg, winning the Carolina League batting title by a 21-point margin in his first full minor league season.

“I made my adjustments and it worked out pretty good,’ said  Simmons, who is from Curacao, the island homeland of former Braves center fielder Andruw Jones.

Simmons, 22, was a  second-round pick in 2010 out of Western Oklahoma State Junior College, where he drew more draft interest for the 98-mph fastball he displayed as a part-time closer than for his position-player potential. He wanted to play shortstop professionally, not pitch. The Braves agreed to give him that opportunity.

He had only one homer in 517 at-bats (131 games) but had 35 doubles and six triples. He drew only 29 walks, but Simmons struck out just 43 times in 2011 and has 57 strikeouts in 756 at-bats of minor-league ball.

His defense has never been a question. Simmons has extremely quick hands to go with his dynamic arm. In Baseball America’s midseason survey of Carolina League managers, he was voted the league’s best defensive shortstop, most exciting player and best infield arm.

“Very impressive player,”  Braves assistant general manager Bruce Manno said in November. “Really a good defensive shortstop. His skills – arm, hands, everything works extremely well. And offensively, one of the areas we concentrated on was strength. He concentrated more on the strength program [at instructional league] than playing in games.

“We decided this year in instructional league that we were going to have a group of players where it wasn’t going to be about innings and at-bats as much as getting stronger in the strength program. They did the baseball skills parts in workouts and everything, other than playing in the games, when they’d go ahead and concentrate on strength and conditioning.”

Manno was asked to compare Simmons with Pastornicky, 22, who hit .314 with a .359 OBP, seven homers and 27 stolen bases in 117 games last season in two minor league stops, including .365 with a .407 OBP in 27 games at Triple-A Gwinnett.

“Simmons and Pastornicky are different types of shortstops,” Manno said. “Pastornicky is kind of a live-body, quick-twitch [muscle] guy, can steal a base… He’s someone who plays shortstop with a little bit of urgency almost, where Simmons is more a natural, smooth-action type of infielder — he’s the kind of guy who can field the ball in the hole and make a good strong throw and still get a good runner out. Simmons has got a lot of one-motion actions defensively — field and transfer and throw, where everything is in one motion. Pastornicky is not that type of guy. Both are good players.”

Reyes, 21, struggled after a promotion to Class-A Rome (.177 with .228 OBP in 64 games) and ended up back at rookie-league Danville for a second year in a row. He hit .262 with a .695 OPS  in 52 games for Danville, after hitting .294 with an .816 OPS there in 2010 in his first year in the United States.

Ahmed, a second-round pick in last year’s draft out of the University of Connecticut, hit .262 with a .346 OBP at Danville in his first stint in pro ball. The 21-year-old Massachusetts native had 19 extra-base hits (four homers) and  18 stolen bases in 59 games.

Between Ahmed and Reyes, one will likely be assigned to Rome and the other bumped up to Lynchburg. Based on Ahmed’s first-year performance, he seems more likely to get the high-A Lynchburg spot.

Although Pastornicky and Simmons have gotten most of the media attention since last fall, Manno said the Braves are pleased with their depth at shortstop and how it’s allowed them to possibly fill a couple of other future needs:

“Salcedo alternated with Lipka at shortstop [at Class-A Rome] early,” Manno said, ” then we decided to move [Salcedo] permanently to third base. We thought he looked comfortable there and was more consistent offensively when he played on the corner. He played down there for the entire instructional league and made good progress defensively. We’re real happy with the improvement he’s made…. A lot of it is the setup and feet, and that’s correctible with repetition. They get a lot of that in instructional league….”

Manno said of Ahmed: “A lot of fluid motion, good strong arm action… He’s got real good actions at shortstop. We think he’s going to be an above-average shortstop as well. With Pastornicky, Simmons, Ahmed — that’s a pretty good lineup at shortstop for us. And then we have a young player, Reyes, that we like. He’s flip-flopped between second and shortstop. He’s from Nicaragua, started last year at Rome and struggled, went back to Danville. But he’s got good actions. We hope he can settle in at shortstop.

“We’re pretty excited [about the shortstop position]. It’s good to have that depth.”

105 comments Add your comment

Bill in VA

January 27th, 2012
12:28 pm

Hankie Aron

January 27th, 2012
12:30 pm

DOB- Is Salcedo and Lipka gonna be back at Rome or both in Lynchburg High A?

Hankie Aron

January 27th, 2012
12:34 pm

I saw Salcedo last year at 3rd late in the season at Rome. He is very good. Definately a future major league guy for sure. Power, decent average, Ribbies.Fairly smooth at third. My thing on him was he was at times looked like a man among boys and he just needed to move up a rung on the ladder to see how he does against better competition.

VaBravesfan

January 27th, 2012
12:35 pm

I saw Simmons play a few times last year in L-burg. Kind of tall and lanky. When he is loosening up, he looks like all knees and elbows. But once the game starts, he is really smooth and very quick. I think he will be the real deal.

David O'Brien

January 27th, 2012
12:38 pm

Hankie Aaron: Don’t know yet for sure, but I’d guess Salcedo and Lipka will be at Lynchburg.

Hankie Aron

January 27th, 2012
12:38 pm

Sounds like a very exciting player. I think the Braves have a more than adequately stocked minor league system with plenty of pitching and some good position players as well. Can’t wait until Terdoslavich gets to the majors just for his name alone let alone his power. Bobby Cox would have called him Old Turdy

Hankie Aron

January 27th, 2012
12:39 pm

Thanks DOB. Always enjoy your Braves posts, movie, and music info as well. Keep it up.

J

January 27th, 2012
12:44 pm

Sounds like Pastornicky is what we need offensively and Simmons defensively.

DawgDad

January 27th, 2012
1:13 pm

“Braves solid at shortstop”

I saw this headline and almost chocked on my soup. Only the AJC could come up with a boner like this. OK, so the ARTICLE is about the depth in the minors; well, then the headline should say “Braves stocked with shortstop prospects”.

Please David explain how the Braves are “solid at shortstop” when the only major league experienced shortstop is a 34-year old reserve who is one of the weakest hitters in MLB. Can’t be done.

I’m pulling for Pastornicky, for sure, because I always pull for the kids to break in and I want the Braves to win. But they are taking a HUGE risk.

Bart n Orl

January 27th, 2012
1:21 pm

I thought it was a great idea drafting the best athletes, which were usually the SS’s, and then see who’s the best and move the others to other postitions. They can usually adjust the best. Then also grabbing Pitching of course…sprinkle in a catcher every now and then. Nice recipe!
We’ll see how it works but I bet there will be other teams following that thought as well.

Skeezix

January 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

Good news and I hope you are right Dave.

Still can’t get up for Spring though. The September 2011 hangover just won’t go away.

WTF

January 27th, 2012
1:25 pm

Anyone know when Pictures and catchers report?

lanier

January 27th, 2012
1:48 pm

sleeze

January 27th, 2012
1:57 pm

Dawg Dad, go ahead and eat so more soup. Maybe we’ll all get lucky and you will choke on it this time.

Pete E. Tong

January 27th, 2012
2:02 pm

Simmons to 3rd in 2013, Pastornicky at SS starting this year. All is well.

This team is about to give the 90’s Braves a run for their money. This team is chocked full of home grown talent; and most of it is in our pitching staff. These next few years are going to be exciting.

bulldogbubba

January 27th, 2012
2:07 pm

Lets “PLAY BALL”!

Brave New World

January 27th, 2012
2:09 pm

DOB: Thanks for providing some insight into why the Braves are not making “panic” moves at shortstop. As a longtime Braves fan, I admire the great scouts and farm system we have. Have a great weekend!

Weaseal

January 27th, 2012
2:15 pm

All aboard the Braves Caravan !!!!

Coach

January 27th, 2012
2:16 pm

Sounds like pastronicky has his head on straight and is doing all that he can to prove doubters wrong. Its good to have the depth that the braves have, alot of teams could only wish that in their minor league system. Sure, rookies will have their struggles, but it makes them better men and ballplayers. People tend to overlook that their major glaring need this offseason was to get a proven hitting coach. Not only did they get one, but they got two sets of eyes focusing on the hitters. I think that it could be worth noting that I feel that Otis Nixon would be an excellent baserunning coach for players like Bourn, Constanza and possibly Pastronicky. I think if our current players can hit somewhat close to their potential, then everything else will take care of itself. You thoughts Dave?

charles

January 27th, 2012
2:17 pm

@Dawg Dad IF these kids are this good then why dont we bring them up and get rid of the deadbeats we got.

Stinger2

January 27th, 2012
2:33 pm

DawgDad is right. The Braves are not solid at SS with a rookie and medicore backup. They may be stocked and solid with prospects but the 2012 position is a question mark at best at this time.

Heisenberg

January 27th, 2012
2:38 pm

So the Diory Hernandez era is over before it started. Hey I know, how about we trade all those guys plus a couple pitching prospects to Texas for…….uh nevermind.

Rufus

January 27th, 2012
2:38 pm

Thanks for the update on Ahmed. Always nice to see someone from UConn succeeding in something in addition to the usual basketball.

JoeFan

January 27th, 2012
2:41 pm

The Braves are solid at SS as long as one of the youngsters comes through and the Braves are willing to wait for that to happen rather than tying up wads of cash on an aging veteran.

charles

January 27th, 2012
2:44 pm

@Stinger2 I completely agree. They can all play different positions so bring them up. They got to be better than what we got.

reckingball

January 27th, 2012
2:54 pm

I am not an expert, as are many that grace these blogs, but I think that the Braves are on the right track for the future.
It looks to me like they are definitely rolling the dice this season at the SS position, but I think that a lot of baseball comes down to the rolling the bones.
Hope they hit 7 or 11.

Ralph

January 27th, 2012
3:07 pm

1. Lipka CF
2. Pastronicky LF
3. Terdoslavich 3B
4. Freeman 1B
5. Heyward RF
6. Simmons SS
7. Rayes 2B
8. Bethencourt C
9. Pitcher

2014 Lineup Card

tdmorgan

January 27th, 2012
3:09 pm

every single one of yall are so shortsighted. There is no telling what we have with Pastornicky yet, but we have a bright future at the position. There is a good chance that if Simmons does well in AA this year that he could be the SS next year and Pastornicky can either become a backup or who knows what. Salcedo has 30/30 potential, potential being the keyword. Lipka could be a great CF in the future. The Bravos have 1B, RF, 2B, C and pitching set. If Lipka turns out then CF will be set and SS should be set in the not too distant future. The Braves may not have a large stable of position prospects coming up like the Royals and Rays do, but we have consistently been putting a solid to great rookie on our team each year, saving us money and increasing the potential of our team each year. I wish we could have signed a more known commodity at SS on a 1-year deal, but that is hard to come by.

tdmorgan

January 27th, 2012
3:16 pm

Ralph are you forgetting that Uggla is signed through I believe 2016 for 2B?

charles

January 27th, 2012
3:25 pm

@ TDmorgan You talk about the future. The future is now. Tired of losing every year.Bring these kids up they cant be any worse than what we got.Lets win now.

S.A.R

January 27th, 2012
3:25 pm

simmons will be the next braves shortstop
he is a superstar shrotstop because it is an attraction to see him play

David O'Brien

January 27th, 2012
3:35 pm

Braves have their early pitching program (aka Camp Roger) beginning Monday morning and running thru Feb. 13 at Turner Field. It’s not open to the public.

1eyedJack

January 27th, 2012
3:36 pm

We just have to come to the realization that the Braves are not buyers under this ownership. A 90 million dollar payroll is just 3 superstar players now a days. LOTS of teams lose badly with just 3 superstars.

They are now among those that have to draft and trade well and grow their own. Hopefully, that will allow them to contend and occaisionally get to the show.

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ

January 27th, 2012
3:50 pm

My daughter has started reading these blogs wherein I rant about the cost of beer, if she is reading this (she is 10) then the reason I want cheaper beer is so I contribute more to her college fund.

Interesting article, well written and very informative, but yes, the headline is misleading. This is about the minor leauge system. Who is down on the farm, not the parent team.

Wren is gambling that T-Pac comes through and hits at least .240.

Ralph

January 27th, 2012
3:52 pm

tdmorgan, yes I had forgotten but since he can’t hit the first half of the season maybe they can trade him for some more good prospects. I know everyone will think i’m loco but I would love to see that lineup in 2013.

nuh uh

January 27th, 2012
3:58 pm

it’s true. you are loco.

tdmorgan

January 27th, 2012
4:03 pm

charles, if you’re tired of losing every year, you must forget that only one team wins the WS a year. Maybe you should choose another team. The Braves are a mid-market team, this year they are paying more than 10% of their payroll for a guy who is not even on the team (Lowe). I would love for this year to be the year that we win the WS, but this whole article is about guys who are going to be helping in the future.

J-Man

January 27th, 2012
4:13 pm

DOB do you feel that the T.V. deal will handcuff the team in the future? Because the article from Tim Tucker seemed to have a negative feel from it when he interviewed McGuirk. And seeing that the Angles used their money to bring in Pujols and the Rangers used their TV money to being in Yu Darvish. So since your the voice of reason here I’d like to hear your informed opinion.

PMC

January 27th, 2012
4:15 pm

Man it sure seems like dirty pool when you have a media group owning a team that also broadcasts the games and gets to sign it’s own contracts. I have to believe they KNEW they were going to sell the team and while they got the chance, they sign 25 year deals knowing full well it will be a huge asset to thier media company after they sell the team.

It’s crap, and it makes me want to not watch or suppport thier awful self serving “I used to play baseball” broadcast. An hour before and an hour after of absolutely horrid TV.

With these contracts they might as well start telling the truth rather than sugarcoating everything.

Basically, this team isn’t going to have stars, for most of the next quarter century. Anyone good, is getting traded. If they think they are going to stay even in the middle of attendance with all this….. vaya con dios.

you had better employ the smartest scouts in the business and hit on EVERY SINGLE draft pick.

heartofdarkness

January 27th, 2012
4:16 pm

With corner outfielders who hit like shortstops, I hope this shortstop hits like a corner outfielder. Or can move to 3B for 40 % of the season. Or can run like Michael Bourne, to help put more pressure on the opposition defense. Or throw a few innings of relief during the dog days of August.

charles

January 27th, 2012
4:18 pm

@td morgan I agree with you about being a mid market. Other midmarket teams have won a WS.I frankly am tired of hearing that same old story year after year. I love our Braves but tired of waiting.

PMC

January 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

The Braves ARE NOT a mid market team. This is a metro area of 5 million, and the Braves fanbase extends several states. This is a top 10 media market.

These media deals are going to hurt them for A VERY VERY VERY LONG TIME in relation to other teams.

EVEN IF WE GET A NEW OWNER, we’re still hamstrung with media deals that are well below market.

Frank Wren

January 27th, 2012
4:24 pm

I love to overpay for .230 hitters, over the hill players, and especially unproven Japanese pitchers.

J-Man

January 27th, 2012
4:26 pm

Well DOB, PMC is getting PMS. I need to voice of reasoning right now because he is making me nervous about the TV deal.

tdmorgan

January 27th, 2012
4:28 pm

PMC, midmarket teams are not based on the size of the market always, but on the revenues they are able to produce. Charles, I totally agree, that midmarket teams can and do win WS, but they usually almost always have a perfect scenario for that season to get there. One of the worst contracts we gave out was to DLowe, it has handicapped us beyond belief because of his production and continues to handicap us with him not even playing for us because we are still paying him $10 million not to play for us. That money could have been used for SS or LF. I want us to win a WS every year, but just looking at our situation this year, things will have to fall perfectly into place for that to happen. After this season, we will have a lot of money to use and hopefully spend wisely because that is how we have to operate with our budget.

Winter of George

January 27th, 2012
4:35 pm

With all this supposed depth, what have they been waiting on?
P-Nicky better be good. And if not him, that depth better show up.

charles

January 27th, 2012
4:38 pm

OK I hear you. What about all the other years they used that excuse. I* hope all the pieces do fall in place, but i dont think so with the team we have now. I hope that I am wrong.

SB75

January 27th, 2012
4:40 pm

DOB…..

Just a question. With all the talk about how the Braves TV contract is and will hurt the Braves revenue compared to other teams….. Is there any buy out, opt out, or incentives that can be reached to renegotiate in those deals. Seems to me it would be stupid to sign a 25 year deal with no way to get out out of it if the market changes.

rayk

January 27th, 2012
4:48 pm

it’s amazing they have quality SS prospects when they draft pitchers constantly . they say you can never have enough pitching and that pitching has real value. how come we can’t trade any pitching ?

there should be another article entitled : no power hitting OF prospects on horizon. Milligan strikes out almost as much as Cody Johnson did. Cunningham is a gap hitter. they had a shot at Mahtook of LSU in first round of 2011 draft , but decided another pitcher was necessary.
and they wonder why they have a mediocre offense overalll and a usesless one vs LHPs.

Had enough

January 27th, 2012
4:50 pm

Can they hit with runners in scoring position .

Ken Stallings

January 27th, 2012
4:50 pm

David,

The Braves are clearly investing heavily in their farm system and seem disinterested in pursuing free agent talent. Frankly, for the kind of money being paid to them, I think that’s a wise plan!

Where do you think the Braves rank in MLB in terms of strength and depth of their farm system, their scouting, and drafting?

alanfalcon

January 27th, 2012
4:55 pm

Can’t help but get excited for the future, its the present year (2012) that is almost on us and I can only hope that this lack luster off season is a sign of good things.

benchwarmer

January 27th, 2012
5:02 pm

Had enough,
that is a very good question, indeed!

Kevin Chop

January 27th, 2012
5:04 pm

The Braves are going to fall right flat on their face this season and wonder once again what went wrong. Then the fans are going to be pissed off for about a month or two and then forget what happened. I know because I use to be one of those fans. I am not doing it this year and I hope some of the other fans wake up and demand greatness like some teams fans do in the northeastern part of the country ( cough cough). Pasternicky could be great at SS this year, but I sure wouldn’t bet on it. If your putting your eggs in the basket on him and Wilson to lead you at SS for 162 games some of you are going to be really disappointed. I actually believe Freemen will be our bright spot. Heyward will not be the next coming we as all thought originally. McCann will have a decent season. Prado is on the decline. Our pitchers will not stay healthy the whole year. So We will once again be in alot of fustrating low scoring games.

Seattle Braves

January 27th, 2012
5:11 pm

I wouldnt be shocked to see Simmons by mid year. Bench hitter and back up to Pastornicky. Wilson is done, nothing left in the tank but to teach. Great opportunity to have Pastornicky and Simmons learn from Wilson on fielding. Listen to Chipper on hitting.

Seattle Braves

January 27th, 2012
5:13 pm

heard good things about Lipka. cant wait til Spring Training

bravesfaninNashville

January 27th, 2012
5:19 pm

It’s great to know we have some position players that can have an impact in the near future because it seems like the Braves are stuck in a bad TV contract for 25 years according to the article with Terry McQuirk. This really pins the Braves down compared to NY, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, Texas and the L.A. teams. They have such rich TV contracts that they can actually afford to compete with the Yankees and Red Sox and Phillies in the payroll department.

The Braves should actually be able to leverage the fact that Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama and the Carolina’s don’t have a major league team competing with Atlanta so it’s all potential Braves country. We should be able to have that be worth something but instead we are locked into something that doesn’t sound very good for Atlanta.. ouch…

Can’t wait to have new ownership and a shot at getting market value out of the TV rights.. The Braves are becoming more and more like the Rays, Royals and Twins everyday.

bvillebaron

January 27th, 2012
5:24 pm

Frank Wren:

What do your snide commens about overpaying for .230 hitters, over the hill players, especially Japanese pithcers have to do with this blog about the Braves’ shorstop prospects? I notice that you didn’t mention his acquisitions of players such as Jurrjens and Bourn in favorable deals or some of the other good moves he has made.

J-Man

January 27th, 2012
5:33 pm

I’ll give Pastornicky the benefit of the doubt. But the number 1 problem with this team is Fredi Gonzalez

J-Man

January 27th, 2012
5:33 pm

Enter your comments here

Sherrill

January 27th, 2012
5:35 pm

Why can’t an Atlanta company like Coca-Cola, Delta, or Equifax step up and make an offer to buy the Braves? They are still the most likeable franchise in town, and they still have somewhat of a winning image across the country. It would be a valuable asset for those companies. Having said that, I believe this coming season will be one of the worst in team history in terms of where we finish in NL East. They need a lot of help, financial and otherwise, fast!

buster brave

January 27th, 2012
5:54 pm

good article DOB. i like our situation at SS,with the youngins’ and jack wilson as insurance.

reckingball

January 27th, 2012
5:54 pm

Kevin@5:04pm……..
Can you tell me what the winning PowerBall, and/or winning MegaMillions numbers are, for this weekend?
Thanks.

David O'Brien

January 27th, 2012
6:08 pm

Why can’t an Atlanta company like Coca-Cola, Delta, or Equifax step up and make an offer to buy the Braves? — Sherrill

Those kinds of corporations have no interest in purchasing sports teams. They sponsor stadiums and arenas, not purchase teams.

wjones

January 27th, 2012
6:13 pm

reckingball, I would settle for fantasy five, if he could share that with us. Then tell us who will win the Super Bowl, so I can turn around and bet my winnings on the team.

David O'Brien

January 27th, 2012
6:13 pm

Just a question. With all the talk about how the Braves TV contract is and will hurt the Braves revenue compared to other teams….. Is there any buy out, opt out, or incentives that can be reached to renegotiate in those deals. Seems to me it would be stupid to sign a 25 year deal with no way to get out out of it if the market changes. — SB75

No, according to McGuirk. Just “cost of living” increases in the fees, but no mechanism to opt out or renegotiate.

David O'Brien

January 27th, 2012
6:15 pm

DOB do you feel that the T.V. deal will handcuff the team in the future? Because the article from Tim Tucker seemed to have a negative feel from it when he interviewed McGuirk. And seeing that the Angles used their money to bring in Pujols and the Rangers used their TV money to being in Yu Darvish. So since your the voice of reason here I’d like to hear your informed opinion. — J-Man

Seems pretty clear it’s a disadvantage to the Braves at a time when TV rights fees are starting to grow exponentially in these various regional deals. Ten years from now, they might be one of the few marquee franchises without a huge TV deal.

kevin chop

January 27th, 2012
6:24 pm

reckingball, no need to. The braves will make you rich if you don’t mind riding out to Vegas.

J-Man

January 27th, 2012
6:38 pm

DOB that sucks to hear. Sounds like to me were gonna become the Oakland A’s. We will not sign any more free agents (Big Named). And if we have Farm grown players that get too expensive to keep we will lose them to Boston or the New York Yankees. Because player contracts will continue to grow, granted they have taken a bit of a hit because of the current economy. But still no TV money for 25 years. Wow I’ll be 53 before we sign anyone again.

Kwajbraves

January 27th, 2012
8:24 pm

We better have strong farm system because we are not going to be players on FA market for the next 20 years. We also are not going to be able to resign our star players. McCann is likely to be traded because we are not going be able to afford unless he takes a big paycut. At least we can’t stop asking FW for a big bat via FA because it not likely to happen.

Bob the Blogger

January 27th, 2012
8:47 pm

Is Ted Turner’s company the beneficiary of the TV deal that’s in place now? If so, maybe Turner can use the windfall to buy back the Braves!

JNick

January 27th, 2012
11:11 pm

The comment about corporations owning teams I find humorous DOB, considering Nintendo owns the Mariners, a newspaper owned the Cubs and a CORPORATION owns the Braves currently.

JNick

January 27th, 2012
11:11 pm

Not to mention, AOL Time Warner owned the Braves previously…

don

January 27th, 2012
11:25 pm

BravesFanSince80's

January 27th, 2012
11:37 pm

I’m still trying to figure out why so many people get on these discussions just to praise the writer on how “insightful” the interview was, not in this specific case obviously, but I’m really starting to question the relevance of interviewing athletes at all, because they never tell you what they really think, and any time a reporter actually asks a tough question, they say something like they can’t get into that or whatever. sports reporting nowadays ought to be more meat and potatoes, this article is more what I mean, and less fluff. Most interviews rate pretty fluffy to me. DOB I don’t understand why you bother interviewing Frank Wren at all, his answers are predictable, boring and often untrue. Its kind of like when MLB Network interviews the “latest and greatest” prospect of the Pittsburg Pirates and the idiot kid says he thinks they have the pieces in place to do what everybody in MLB wants to do, win a WS….REALLY? So I say, why bother with that kind of stuff at all? Why not just report the goings on and leave the interviews to Hollywood. The interview with Pastornicky is a classic example. People commented afterward saying things like, “boy it sure sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders.” How the hell could you ascertain anything of the sort from those memorized, aw shucks type responses. It’s almost like he took the scene from Bull Durham litterally and memorized all those old cliched reponses and that’s all he gave. How is that a measure of his baseball worth in any respect? Silly, and pointless to boot…

David O'Brien

January 28th, 2012
12:35 am

The comment about corporations owning teams I find humorous DOB, considering Nintendo owns the Mariners, a newspaper owned the Cubs and a CORPORATION owns the Braves currently. — JNick

Of COURSE corporations own teams — mostly media-related corporations such as Tribune Co., Liberty, Time Warner, New York Times (used to have big stake in Red Sox), etc.

I said the specific type of corporations you suggested should buy the Braves — Coca-Cola, Delta Airlines and Equifax were the three you cited — do NOT buy major-league sports franchises. If they do, please cite one example. As I said, those corporations sponsor teams and/or venues for advertising purposes; they don’t BUY teams.

Or does Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola, any airline, etc., own a team that I’m not aware of. Please let me know if they do.

DZ

January 28th, 2012
1:50 am

It’s too bad that Wren will probably trade Simmons away and he’ll be an All-Star somewhere else.

Jeff R

January 28th, 2012
6:01 am

The Braves need to get on the ball and find and develop some talent at 3B. Salcedo has been unimpressive in the early going, though he could catch fire. But the team needs more options at 3B. Chipper’s on his sunset cruise!

ATLol

January 28th, 2012
7:43 am

DOB…anything on shortstop Jose Peraza? Jose Peraza was supposedly our second biggest IFA signing last summer (after RHP Mauricio Cabrera). He was the top Braves position prospect in the DSL and I heard that he has a pretty good top-end as a fielder, a decetn hitter and good makeup.

charles

January 28th, 2012
8:48 am

I really dont know why everyone is getting so excited about certain players. BravesFanSince80s is absolutely right. You cannot judge a player by what he says. Lets see what he does on the field.

reckingball

January 28th, 2012
9:13 am

Kevin @6:24……..I don’t see how the Braves can make me rich, by me riding out to Vegas, but seeing as how you can see into the future, I was hoping that you could let me know the winning numbers, I still have time to win the PowerBall tonight.
Or can you only see the Braves future, if so maybe you could post before each game this year, if they win or lose that day, and the score also.
I won’t have to ride to Vegas, to lay my bet.
just kidding.

Foxey South

January 28th, 2012
11:02 am

Liberty Media(Directv)gave Fox sports south a sweetheart deal for broadcast rights so that Fox would give Liberty a deal on broadcasting all Fox stations on their Directv network.Directv subscribers were told several months ago that Fox was substancially raising rates for all Fox stations and warned of no Fox on their dish programming if Fox wouldn’t lower their price increase…………sooo what happens is that Directv subscribers are paying the difference of what the Brave’s ought to get for rights and what they actually get………thus giving Liberty an excuse for the lower payroll they seek for the Brave’s as Liberty claims that the Brave’s don’t generate enough revenues to justify raising their payroll to add more superstars.

Foxey South

January 28th, 2012
11:10 am

The Bottom Line is that Liberty Media is still generating the same amount of revenue from Braves broadcasts through 2 different sources but claiming that they are getting alot less……..thus rationalizing a lower Brave’s payroll!

Foxey South

January 28th, 2012
11:12 am

By meaning the same amount of revenue I mean that they are getting what other larger market teams are getting for their Broadcasts although it seems and they state it is alot less!

ATLol

January 28th, 2012
12:01 pm

BravesFanSince80's

January 28th, 2012
12:07 pm

Foxey, any way of confirming any of that? I’m with ya, sounds like something that a soulless corp. would do in such a situation…

BravesFanSince80's

January 28th, 2012
12:08 pm

oh and by the way, went and saw The Grey last night, was wondering if anyone else saw it and any thoughts on it’s worth?

charles

January 28th, 2012
12:17 pm

@BravesFanSince80s Good Morn ing, Sorry didnt get back to you last, but had to double date with Honey Bee and her boyfriend[Brave]. I have not seen The Grey but am going tonite.

charles

January 28th, 2012
12:47 pm

I still dont think Prado is the answer batting 2nd. If Heyward were hitting he would be great but I dont know if that will happen.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

January 28th, 2012
1:49 pm

The future is bright, while the present stinks like Hell.

Spring's around the corner

January 28th, 2012
4:41 pm

DOB, what’s this about a one game play-in between two wild card teams?
One game doesn’t sound very fair if the first wild card team beat out the second, say by 5 games or something.
Please explain the proposal if this is being misunderstood.

Laughing out Loud

January 28th, 2012
4:56 pm

Braves shortstop outlook is spectatular! Thaat’s no laughing matter! Go Braves……………

wjones

January 28th, 2012
5:30 pm

“Spring’s around the corner

January 28th, 2012
4:41 pm
DOB, what’s this about a one game play-in between two wild card teams?
One game doesn’t sound very fair if the first wild card team beat out the second, say by 5 games or something.
Please explain the proposal if this is being misunderstood.”

You know I’ve been thinking about this for a while, and I’m beginning to like it more. It’s bugged me how, over the years, wild card teams like the Marlins won everything, even though they didn’t even come close, in some cases, to winning their division. Now at least there is some punishment on a WC team to make it a little harder. Maybe have to use their ace a little earlier, travel a little more, etc. Now I say this knowing that our Braves best chance at playoffs is probably WC, but you know, fair is fair, and if that’s the case then so be it.

David O'Brien

January 28th, 2012
6:37 pm

DOB, what’s this about a one game play-in between two wild card teams?
One game doesn’t sound very fair if the first wild card team beat out the second, say by 5 games or something.
Please explain the proposal if this is being misunderstood.”
— spring’s around the corner

You know I’ve been thinking about this for a while, and I’m beginning to like it more. It’s bugged me how, over the years, wild card teams like the Marlins won everything, even though they didn’t even come close, in some cases, to winning their division. Now at least there is some punishment on a WC team to make it a little harder. Maybe have to use their ace a little earlier, travel a little more, etc. Now I say this knowing that our Braves best chance at playoffs is probably WC, but you know, fair is fair, and if that’s the case then so be it. — wjones

I agree with wjones. It’s not perfect, but it’s impossible to make a perfect system while also preserving the 162-game schedule and preventing the World Series from going into mid-November or the season from starting in mid-March. And since they’re going to add a second wild-card team in each league — that’s not up for debate any longer — the one-game playoff between two wild-card teams doesn’t bother me.

Some argue that at least a best-of-three would be better than a one-game playoff, but think about it: If you play a best-of-three, there’s a very good chance a team is going to use both of its best two or three starting pitchers before going into a division series against a relatively rested division winner, and then what are the chances the wild-card team is going to beat that division winner? Not good at all.

And like you pointed out, adding a second wild-card team and the one-game playoff between wild-card teams does add more incentive to win the division, since in the previous format the only incentive to win the division rather than the wild card was to get home-field advantage. Other than that, the wild-card team entered the playoffs on same footing as the division winner from its own division.

charles

January 28th, 2012
7:22 pm

@wjones Hi are you saying that you do like the one game playoff. I dont think that is fair. They could shorten the travel days of WS and have plenty of time to make it a three game series. If you one wc team winnig 95 games and one winning 86 and the 86 wins. Is that really fair.

Lil' Barry Bailout

January 29th, 2012
6:50 am

Any signings of major-league hitters on the horizon? If not, this is all just so much cheerleading and expectation-building.

Sometimes I think the local media must be getting a cut of ticket sales.

FSURob

January 29th, 2012
4:57 pm

DOB,

Is it possible (probable?) that we see Pastornicky at 2B down the road? Obviously Uggla is inked for a long time, but it seems like Pastornicky may ultimately project as a top notch defensive 2B based on what’s been written about his skills, while Simmons seems like the ideal defensive SS.

Tip-your-hat

January 29th, 2012
5:21 pm

If the Pastornicky guy could hit .250 and steal 20 bases this year, we will not regret not re-signing Alex Gonzalez. Let’s see if that happens.

David O'Brien

January 29th, 2012
5:52 pm

Is it possible (probable?) that we see Pastornicky at 2B down the road? Obviously Uggla is inked for a long time, but it seems like Pastornicky may ultimately project as a top notch defensive 2B based on what’s been written about his skills, while Simmons seems like the ideal defensive SS — FSURob

While I do think Pastornicky has the versatility to play 2B, with Uggla under contract for four more seasons I doubt there’s been a lot of discussion as far as projecting him as replacement. That’s just too far off. But yes, to answer your question, I do think he could play there. Ultimately, Pastornicky could be a utility player. But first, he’ll get chance to show what he can do in every-day shortstop role.

lastmanstanding

January 30th, 2012
12:08 am

do any of you guys know how to post videos to…. facebook?

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