also not sold on D-Backs. teams from offensive parks are often erratic from year to year it seems to me
That’s fair, and they also had career offensive years from a lot of their guys. I guess I just like Aaron Hill on a bounce back and maybe Drew will contribute. And I like the Cahill addition.
If the Giants made smarter offensive acquisitions(getting better players than Melky, Pagan and upgrading at SS – Theriot isn’t that), they’d have my vote in the NL West, hands down.
Speaking of weather… 40° tomorrow where I live in upstate, NY in the dead of winter… the ski resorts have been hurting. I’m not such a fan of the white stuff so this warmer weather has been a plus for me.
Wow just wow. Fan based team and baseball sites and blogs on the internet seem to have garnered a following of their own groupie type following. A fan starts a baseball site and has a Jim Jones following and all of a sudden the site has credentials. OMG
There seems to be hundreds of fan sponsored, fan driven sites, like CAC, and others that have risen without credentials like maybe an endorsement from Peter Gammons, Tracy Ringolsby, David O’Brien, Mark Bowman, Richard Justice and I can go on, but naive young fans drink up their rubbish as fact
the guy who started cac was used by olney in a lot of quotes, giving him some respectibility i guess. i don’t know if that still occurs with the current guy or not
Still think Washington is going to be better than what most people think
Absolutely. Most of those on the blog that pay attention have been saying they’re on the upswing for the last two years. Gonna be a tough NL East battle, no doubt.
I agree Dave, how can the Nats not be considered what the Braves are which is a potential Wild Card team. SP staffs are equal imo if Strasburg is healthy. Pen is ours, but theirs is tough too. I think their offense is a little better if Werth and Zimmerman hit like they’re supposed to.
Ranking the NL East by position, this is what I have:
Starters: 1. Phillies 2A. Nationals 2B. Braves 4. Marlins 5. Mets
-Phillies still the team to beat here with Halladay, Hamels, and
Lee. Worley was solid last year. Nats made big splash with Gio.
Strasburg – sky is the limit. Zimmerman is underrated. Braves with too many question marks to put #2 by themselves. Marlins add Buehrle but still not in the same class as the first 3. Mets are sorry.
1B: 1. Phillies 2. Braves 3. Marlins 4. Nats 5. Mets. Half season of Howard trumps everyone else. Freeman is a solid bat with great defense.
2B: 1. Braves 2. Phillies 3. Nats 4. Marlins 5. Mets. Utley has fallen in recent years
SS: 1. Marlins 2. Phillies 3. Nats 4. Braves 5. Mets
3B: 1. Nats 2-4 Braves, Mets, Marlins 5: Phillies. Chipper, Ramirez and Wright could all be the best of the group or the worst or injured.
OF: 1. Nats 2. Phillies 3. Braves 4. Marlins 5. Mets. Mike Stanton may be the best of the bunch. Can Heyward rebound? Prado? Looking forward to seeing Harper.
Bullpen: 1. Braves, Braves, Braves
All in all tough division where every position there are legitimate arguments to be made. Aside from the Mets usually being sorry at every position, 2-4 is often up for grabs.
He’s gonna be a free agent outfielder that is talked about here, but wow, just looked at Andre Ethier’s splits……he’s like Ryan Howard-lite. I’m not sure how great of a defensive player he is, pretty sure he’s solid, but his career like vs. LHP is going to be a real red flag for him heading into free agency next fall: .242/.302/.359(872 PA’s) vs. RHP: .309/.386/.523(2,491 PA’s).
He’ll still get plenty of play and probably a nice 4-5 year deal, but that’s kinda scary.
Just got done watching the end of the Murray St v. SEMO game..Murrary St remains the only undefeated team in the country. Murray St (22-0) should play Binghamton University (0-22 only team w/ no wins in the country)…okay well actually it probably wouldn’t be that entertaining.
Speaking of other free agent outfielders for next winter……
According to Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News, Rangers outfielder Josh Hamilton was spotted drinking alcohol on Monday night at a bar in the Dallas area.
If true, that’s sad…..he needs to stay away at all times and promised the Rangers and his fam he would stay away.
Bill James site has Ethier tied for tenth last season in RF.
Yeah, I mean, if he isn’t going to provide value with the glove and can’t hit LHP….then not sure I’d want the Braves to bring him in next year. Not to say they would, but among the free agent outfielders, I think he may be pretty over-hyped.
and not getting any better. his homers fell off a lot last season and he hit 563(ugh) against lefties. He needs a big bounce back season to capitalize on FA
Sigh…..really wish we signed Beltran for two years. No free agent outfielder this coming winter would of deterred me from having that guy in the outfield from 2012-2013. Injuries be damned. Bringing Carlos in and keeping Prado as well would of been amazing. I know it never was going to happen, but that’s the one time where I wish the Braves found 10-12 million under the sofa cushions….. Bring in Carlos and pair him with Chipper for Jones last two seasons. Oh well.
I do not rank the gNats above the Braves at this point
I surely hope the BRAVES don’t ascribe to that analysis nolie. They are going to be tougher on us than last year for sure. I now leave the ‘g’ off when genuflecting while tippin’ my cap to D.C.
Take Shelter was one of the best movies I’ve seen in a pretty long time. You have very good taste, DOB. Your list has been a great sleepless night aid.
Take Shelter was one of the best movies I’ve seen in a pretty long time. You have very good taste, DOB. Your list has been a great sleepless night aid. — Tyler (TN)
Glad you enjoyed it, Tyler. It’s rare that I leave a theatre so focused on what I just saw as long as I was upon leaving after seeing Take Shelter. Just so powerful, provocative, sad, and real. And that ending — wow. I still am not sure what it meant, nor do I think we were supposed to be sure.
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Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
7:32 pm
I’ll still tier the NL like this:
Tier One – Phillies
Tier Two – Cardinals, D-Backs, Giants, Reds, Braves
Tier Three – Nationals, Marlins, Brewers, Dodgers
Tier Four – Rockies, Padres
Tier Five – Mets, Cubs, Pirates
Tier Six – Astros
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
7:34 pm
Astros???
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
7:35 pm
They play in Houston
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
7:38 pm
might as well just throw them in the A.L. and forget about them
richbrave
February 2nd, 2012
7:41 pm
CraZY:
How’s our young man ROBBIE HEFF doing? Ready for the season?
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
7:42 pm
I might throw the gNats into tier two, maybe
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
7:44 pm
also not sold on D-Backs. teams from offensive parks are often erratic from year to year it seems to me
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
7:44 pm
Even though the Cards lost Pujols, I’m backing em since they signed the guy we should have…..
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
7:47 pm
Even though the Cards lost Pujols, I’m backing em since they signed the guy we should have…..
Pierre?
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
7:55 pm
also not sold on D-Backs. teams from offensive parks are often erratic from year to year it seems to me
That’s fair, and they also had career offensive years from a lot of their guys. I guess I just like Aaron Hill on a bounce back and maybe Drew will contribute. And I like the Cahill addition.
If the Giants made smarter offensive acquisitions(getting better players than Melky, Pagan and upgrading at SS – Theriot isn’t that), they’d have my vote in the NL West, hands down.
Kat
February 2nd, 2012
8:13 pm
Speaking of weather… 40° tomorrow where I live in upstate, NY in the dead of winter… the ski resorts have been hurting. I’m not such a fan of the white stuff so this warmer weather has been a plus for me.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
8:27 pm
well I’m not saying that ‘zona definitely will not be good, just that I’m a little less than sold.
Patio Daddio
February 2nd, 2012
8:45 pm
Wow just wow. Fan based team and baseball sites and blogs on the internet seem to have garnered a following of their own groupie type following. A fan starts a baseball site and has a Jim Jones following and all of a sudden the site has credentials. OMG
There seems to be hundreds of fan sponsored, fan driven sites, like CAC, and others that have risen without credentials like maybe an endorsement from Peter Gammons, Tracy Ringolsby, David O’Brien, Mark Bowman, Richard Justice and I can go on, but naive young fans drink up their rubbish as fact
unbelievable
February 2nd, 2012
8:59 pm
Still think Washington is going to be better than what most people think.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
9:03 pm
the guy who started cac was used by olney in a lot of quotes, giving him some respectibility i guess. i don’t know if that still occurs with the current guy or not
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
9:06 pm
or maybe it was another ESPN writer, I’m not sure now
David O'Brien
February 2nd, 2012
9:11 pm
Still think Washington is going to be better than what most people think.
I said while ago that I think they’ll compete for one of the two wild-card berths (assuming there are two).
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
9:15 pm
last I read, the two WC plan was not ready yet. I wonder if it will make it this season
Steve from OH
February 2nd, 2012
9:25 pm
Still think Washington is going to be better than what most people think
Absolutely. Most of those on the blog that pay attention have been saying they’re on the upswing for the last two years. Gonna be a tough NL East battle, no doubt.
SoWeGa Fanatic
February 2nd, 2012
9:33 pm
unbelievable
February 2nd, 2012
8:59 pm
Still think Washington is going to be better than what most people think.
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I think most folks now think they will be pretty dang good.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm
I agree Dave, how can the Nats not be considered what the Braves are which is a potential Wild Card team. SP staffs are equal imo if Strasburg is healthy. Pen is ours, but theirs is tough too. I think their offense is a little better if Werth and Zimmerman hit like they’re supposed to.
brian
February 2nd, 2012
9:45 pm
Ranking the NL East by position, this is what I have:
Starters: 1. Phillies 2A. Nationals 2B. Braves 4. Marlins 5. Mets
-Phillies still the team to beat here with Halladay, Hamels, and
Lee. Worley was solid last year. Nats made big splash with Gio.
Strasburg – sky is the limit. Zimmerman is underrated. Braves with too many question marks to put #2 by themselves. Marlins add Buehrle but still not in the same class as the first 3. Mets are sorry.
1B: 1. Phillies 2. Braves 3. Marlins 4. Nats 5. Mets. Half season of Howard trumps everyone else. Freeman is a solid bat with great defense.
2B: 1. Braves 2. Phillies 3. Nats 4. Marlins 5. Mets. Utley has fallen in recent years
SS: 1. Marlins 2. Phillies 3. Nats 4. Braves 5. Mets
3B: 1. Nats 2-4 Braves, Mets, Marlins 5: Phillies. Chipper, Ramirez and Wright could all be the best of the group or the worst or injured.
OF: 1. Nats 2. Phillies 3. Braves 4. Marlins 5. Mets. Mike Stanton may be the best of the bunch. Can Heyward rebound? Prado? Looking forward to seeing Harper.
Bullpen: 1. Braves, Braves, Braves
All in all tough division where every position there are legitimate arguments to be made. Aside from the Mets usually being sorry at every position, 2-4 is often up for grabs.
Should be a fun year.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
9:51 pm
I do not rank the gNats above the Braves at this point
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
10:07 pm
Seems like Buster Olney picks us to finish real good every year and only once have we made the playoffs. So this could be a good thing.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
10:13 pm
He’s gonna be a free agent outfielder that is talked about here, but wow, just looked at Andre Ethier’s splits……he’s like Ryan Howard-lite. I’m not sure how great of a defensive player he is, pretty sure he’s solid, but his career like vs. LHP is going to be a real red flag for him heading into free agency next fall: .242/.302/.359(872 PA’s) vs. RHP: .309/.386/.523(2,491 PA’s).
He’ll still get plenty of play and probably a nice 4-5 year deal, but that’s kinda scary.
Kat
February 2nd, 2012
10:16 pm
Just got done watching the end of the Murray St v. SEMO game..Murrary St remains the only undefeated team in the country. Murray St (22-0) should play Binghamton University (0-22 only team w/ no wins in the country)…okay well actually it probably wouldn’t be that entertaining.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
10:18 pm
Bill James site has Ethier tied for tenth last season in RF. That is the best they have had him at. The three years B4 that were much worse
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
10:18 pm
Speaking of other free agent outfielders for next winter……
According to Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News, Rangers outfielder Josh Hamilton was spotted drinking alcohol on Monday night at a bar in the Dallas area.
If true, that’s sad…..he needs to stay away at all times and promised the Rangers and his fam he would stay away.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
10:20 pm
Bill James site has Ethier tied for tenth last season in RF.
Yeah, I mean, if he isn’t going to provide value with the glove and can’t hit LHP….then not sure I’d want the Braves to bring him in next year. Not to say they would, but among the free agent outfielders, I think he may be pretty over-hyped.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
10:24 pm
and not getting any better. his homers fell off a lot last season and he hit 563(ugh) against lefties. He needs a big bounce back season to capitalize on FA
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
10:24 pm
Sigh…..really wish we signed Beltran for two years. No free agent outfielder this coming winter would of deterred me from having that guy in the outfield from 2012-2013. Injuries be damned. Bringing Carlos in and keeping Prado as well would of been amazing. I know it never was going to happen, but that’s the one time where I wish the Braves found 10-12 million under the sofa cushions…..
Bring in Carlos and pair him with Chipper for Jones last two seasons. Oh well.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
10:26 pm
ditto Ef
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
10:28 pm
Not good: http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7535200/texas-rangers-outfielder-josh-hamilton-relapse-alcohol
Sopheee
February 2nd, 2012
10:30 pm
Was about to post the same link. If it’s true, hope he overcomes again. Damn good player.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 2nd, 2012
10:47 pm
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
“Seems like Buster Olney picks us to finish real good every year and only once have we made the playoffs. So this could be a good thing.”
That Turd John Kruk Picked us to face the Red Sox Prior to the start of the 2008 season! We have been cursed since
GRRRRRRRRRR
Oh well, time to get back to watchin Rasslin
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 2nd, 2012
10:48 pm
I meant to say he picked us to face the Red Sox at the start of the 2008 season…
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
February 2nd, 2012
10:48 pm
In The World Series!
McFann O O o
February 2nd, 2012
10:56 pm
brian—
You forgot catcher…or was that one just a given…?
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
11:03 pm
Dumb move by Hamilton. Drink at home.
tiger297
February 2nd, 2012
11:45 pm
went to the hawks game tonight…had an interesting time
brian
February 2nd, 2012
11:51 pm
C is a given – meant to put that under the bullpen as the finale. Bethancourt is a stud
Venice Jim
February 2nd, 2012
11:52 pm
One of those nights where it’s impossible to refresh quickly enough to keep up with the blog…
tiger297
February 2nd, 2012
11:53 pm
yes I’m struggling here
tiger297
February 2nd, 2012
11:55 pm
when its sleepy time down south…….
richbrave
February 3rd, 2012
12:19 am
WINTER BALL
CARIBBEAN series Game 1
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
Lead-off CF JOSE ‘George’ CONSTANZA [.000 BA] 0-3, 1 BB, 1 SB [1].
RHRP JAIRO ASENCIO [SV 1, 0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, 2 SO, 3 BF, 11p / 9s, 0 GO/ 0 AO.
richbrave
February 3rd, 2012
12:19 am
WINTER BALL
CARIBBEAN series Game 1
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
Lead-off CF JOSE ‘George’ CONSTANZA [.000 BA] 0-3, 1 BB, 1 SB [1].
RHRP JAIRO ASENCIO [SV 1, 0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, 2 SO, 3 BF, 11p / 9s, 0 GO/ 0 AO.
richbrave
February 3rd, 2012
12:20 am
Sleepy time, sure is. I hit the send button twice. Sorry.
richbrave
February 3rd, 2012
12:28 am
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
9:51 pm
I do not rank the gNats above the Braves at this point
I surely hope the BRAVES don’t ascribe to that analysis nolie. They are going to be tougher on us than last year for sure. I now leave the ‘g’ off when genuflecting while tippin’ my cap to D.C.
richbrave
February 3rd, 2012
12:29 am
O.K. catch everybody on the rebound.
uga-brave
February 3rd, 2012
12:32 am
stasburg, gio, jackson.
johnson, buerhle, snachez.
halladay, lee, hammells.
pretty stout top of the rotation of our contenters.
some pretty good collection of southpaws.
uga-brave
February 3rd, 2012
12:32 am
stasburg, gio, jackson.
johnson, buerhle, snachez.
halladay, lee, hammells.
pretty stout top of the rotation of our contenters.
some pretty good collection of southpaws.
uga-brave
February 3rd, 2012
12:41 am
dont laugh ,but i think beachy is going to become the best pitcher on this team.
uga-brave
February 3rd, 2012
12:53 am
beachy, a nobody just like venters. well beachy 169 k’s. his whip was right there with hanson and hudson.
uga-brave
February 3rd, 2012
12:58 am
beachy never gets tossed in the conversation, when the the latin trio prospects come up.
beachy reminds me of mike mussina. total mound pressence.
uga-brave
February 3rd, 2012
1:04 am
hanson, beachy, hudson, jjj, minor.
that would be my rotation.
uga-brave
February 3rd, 2012
1:07 am
gotta agree with what scoots said earlier. the top three in the rotation earn you wins. the latter two are on the offense.
Josh Harvey-Clemons Grandfather
February 3rd, 2012
1:08 am
Angels sign Pujols
Tigers sign Prince Fielder
Braves sign Jack Wilson and lower hot dog prices…….
David O'Brien
February 3rd, 2012
1:16 am
Late night NEW BLOGGAGE
Tyler (TN)
February 16th, 2012
5:22 am
Take Shelter was one of the best movies I’ve seen in a pretty long time. You have very good taste, DOB. Your list has been a great sleepless night aid.
David O'Brien
February 16th, 2012
6:42 am
Take Shelter was one of the best movies I’ve seen in a pretty long time. You have very good taste, DOB. Your list has been a great sleepless night aid. — Tyler (TN)
Glad you enjoyed it, Tyler. It’s rare that I leave a theatre so focused on what I just saw as long as I was upon leaving after seeing Take Shelter. Just so powerful, provocative, sad, and real. And that ending — wow. I still am not sure what it meant, nor do I think we were supposed to be sure.
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